Straw polls are rarely useful, except as a measure of a candidate’s infrastructure – his or her ability to move a certain number of volunteers to a certain location at a certain time.
But the larger the event, and the closer to election day, the more meaning that kind of balloting has. On Saturday, the Cobb County Republican party had one of the largest straw polls in the state.
Roughly 1,200 people paid a $10 fee for entry into an auditorium at Jim Miller Park in Marietta, attended by virtually every statewide candidate on the July 20 GOP ballot.
Five candidates for governor were there: Jeff Chapman, Nathan Deal, Karen Handel, Eric Johnson and John Oxendine.
When asked who they want to see as the Republican nominee for governor, here’s what attendees said:
– Handel, 199;
–Johnson, 199;
– Deal, 140;
– Oxendine, 130;
– Chapman, 31;
– McBerry, 3;
–Putnam, 0.
Though they could barely be heard among the din of the crowd, a theme developed in short addresses from the gubernatorial candidates, one likely to be fleshed out in the final two weeks of the campaign:
Chapman: “There’s probably one thing I need to say that I think will help define why you want to vote for Jeff Chapman. There’s no right way to do the wrong thing.”
Deal: “I’m the only candidate who has put forth a proposal on tax reform that has actually been scored by somebody that knows what they’re doing. The National Tax Foundation currently ranks Georgia 29 in terms of tax law….They scored my proposal – they said it would take us to No. 16.”
Handel: “You deserve real, meaningful tax relief – not for the sake of passing down to your local government officials.”
Johnson: If you want a governor that’s going to reform our tax code – that will reward our work and rewards profit and making money and doesn’t discourage it….I’m just the guy to do it.”
Oxendine: “The [National] Tax Foundation says that we’ve got the second worst tax climate in the region. If you want to bring jobs to Georgia – government doesn’t create jobs. That’s what Barack Obama and Roy Barnes talk about. Did you see Roy Barnes’ commercial? He says he going to create 10,000 jobs – he’s going to take money out of your pocket give it to someone else. that’s not creating jobs. That’s redistributing the wealth. We’re going to create jobs by changing the tax climate.”
Not by coincidence, the Associated Press tackles the topic in its weekend piece:
Two candidates have staked out a more extreme position than most: John Oxendine and Karen Handel want to eliminate Georgia’s individual income tax – the state’s single largest chunk of revenue. Nathan Deal and Eric Johnson have expressed skepticism about the idea, which is popular with tea party activists and fair tax supporters, who may be a powerful voting bloc in a GOP primary.
Tossing out individual income tax collections would rip a giant hole in the state’s tattered balance sheet. Individual income taxes brought in about $7.8 billion to Georgia coffers in fiscal year 2009 – roughly 50 percent of the state’s total tax collections.
Neither Oxendine nor Handel has said specifically how they would fill that hole, arguing it would take study. But it would almost certainly require higher sales taxes and perhaps taxing services – like haircuts and lawn work – that are currently exempt.
Oxendine, in particular, has been out front about halting Georgia’s income tax. He’s featuring the proposal prominently in his television advertisements as part of his “Contract With Georgia.”
But pressed on the specifics, Oxendine said the changes wouldn’t happen overnight.
Oxendine said he favored a consumption-based tax because it’s based on choice.
“You choose whether to engage in commerce,” Oxendine said. “A tax on direct income punishes you for success.”
Oxendine said some of the money could come from removing sales tax exemptions or possibly broadening the sales tax base. Some, but possibly not all, of the lost income tax revenue would need to be replaced, he said.
Handel also said she supports eliminating the state income tax but is also short on the details of how such a plan would work.
Following are the other results in Saturday’s straw poll of Cobb County Republicans:
Secretary of state:
– Brian Kemp, 345;
– Doug MacGinnitie, 331;
Attorney general:
– Sam Olens, 341;
– Max Wood, 203;
– Preston Smith, 128;
State insurance commissioner:
– Gerry Purcell, 235;
– Maria Sheffield, 103;
– Seth Harp, 98;
– Ralph Hudgens, 47;
– Stephen Dale Northington, 39;
– Tom Knox, 13;
– Dennis Caine, 5;
– John Mamalakis, 5;
– Rick Collum, 3
Agriculture commissioner:
– Gary Black, 544;
– Darwin Carter, 115;
Labor commissioner:
– Melvin Everson, 425;
– Mark Butler, 152;
School superintendent:
– Richard Woods, 278;
– John Barge, 221;
Public Service Commission:
– Jeff May, 235;
– John Douglas, 154;
– Tim Echols,122;
– Joey Brush, 73.
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Straight Talk
July 5th, 2010
8:33 am
If integrity and common sense mean anything to a voter, then Karen Handel should be the Republican nominee without question. Oxendine and Deal have proven they are sleazy politicians and Johnson is not far behind. Any Republican who votes for one of these three guys instead on Handel should have their head examined…and also quit complaining about the lack of ethics of the current Democratic administration in Washington.
Randy
July 5th, 2010
8:34 am
progressive peach is an idiot thinks that raising taxes cures all ills. Typical liberal agenda, if they have a job and work tax them so the rest of us can sit around collecting welfare and freebies. Get your sorry butt to work and lose 1/ of your paycheck to taxes maybe then you will understand.
pete
July 5th, 2010
8:43 am
I think we should all vote republican since they have done nothing but a bad job so far.no we cant blame any body but them for the shape Ga in but the republican party. lets just give in to corporate america and be slaves to them, your vote will not count any way.
Randy
July 5th, 2010
8:49 am
What the people of this country don;t realize is this:
Federal taxes from paychecks around 28%
State taxes minimum of 6%
Then local taxes
Then tax on the gas you buy to go to and from work
Then tax on food you eat
Then tax your home fuel , home phone, electricity, water and sewer, property tax, vehicle tax.
Then you go to a movie..taxed
Go buy clothes, taxed
Get a haircut taxed
Manicure taxed
Eat at a restaurant taxed
IS THERE ANYTHING YOU DO THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT TAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How long America before you finally get fed up with it?
What will it take?
Or are you satisfied with our current Socialist dictatorship?
What changed to bring America to it’s present state where it’s a shame to be an American?
What do we care what the other nations of the world think about us?
What other nation in the world has given more lives for the freedom of others and yet all those others gripe and complain about us?
I say it’s time to tell these other countries that America doesn’t give a rats rear end what they think about us and do what we need to do to make America great again.
It’s time to tell China this import – export thing is going to change and America is going back to work.
Come on folks let’s wake up and boot ALL these incumbents out of office …it is the only way to get Washington’s attention.
Randy
July 5th, 2010
8:50 am
Pete you are so out of it…exactly what have the democrats done????????
pete
July 5th, 2010
8:59 am
thank your wonderful purdue for all the great tax you pay.I want neither party.
Randy
July 5th, 2010
8:59 am
One more example of how far America has fallen…………who in their right mind pays a basketball player 120 million for six years to run up and down a basketball court and throw a ball into a hoop low enough that all they have to do is jump a little bit to reach it?
I could see a challenge if maybe the other team was allowed to prevent them from doing this but in basketball if you look at someone cross eyed you are called for a foul and then on top of that you are allowed god knows how many fouls per game.
The last three minutes are nothing but teams fouling each other until finally the 10 thousandth foul is call and someone is made to sit down.
What a joke these owners are.
I wouldn’t walk across the street to wipe my muddy shoes on an atlanta hawk doormat.
Randy
July 5th, 2010
9:04 am
Pete come on……… Perdue doesn’t set tax rates……..both houses vote on that stuff it’s called the house and senate they work independently of each other on the same bills. This is how our system of government works. Presidents and Governors have little power….. they are figure heads. ALL POLITICS ARE LOCAL!!!!!!!!!!!! it’s the people you send to the house and senate who make laws both on the state level and on the federal level.
This is exactly why you don’t want someone like Hank “Cuba will capsize” Johnson in office. If he is thank stupid how in the world can you trust him to legislate?
Randy
July 5th, 2010
9:06 am
Correction “That Stupid”
pete
July 5th, 2010
9:09 am
republicans,republicans cant trust them
John
July 5th, 2010
9:11 am
Anyone of them that says they are going to start a study to see how to handle the states problems after they are elected will not get my vote. They will say anything to get elected.
Randy
July 5th, 2010
9:11 am
democrats and socialist all one and the same. Take everything from you under the guise of distributing equally all the while keeping it for themselves.
benny
July 5th, 2010
11:25 am
Who will I vote for? I have my priorities.
First, eliminate stopping for funerals.
Second, take a lie detector test.
Third, never go nor like fishing.
Fourth, has ears that actually work.
Fifth, not give a rip about the ACLU
Sixth, make people pick up trash if they want welfare.
Seventh, abolish school boards.
Eighth, abolish DOE.
Ninth, not care what the feds say or do.
Tenth, tax stupidity.
Bonus points, make parents accountable.
Really?
July 5th, 2010
5:11 pm
So Karen Handel is the ONLY ethical choice in the field? So convenient for her that each of her 3 opponents are all unethical, like she claims in her campaign mailpiece. Karen Handel needs to realize that the majority of voters are smarter than that, and they know a lie when they see one.
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Deal for Governor
July 6th, 2010
11:28 am
It’s interesting that in Sam Olens home of Cobb County, the combined vote against him was about the same as what he received. He needs to do better in his home county to win statewide. If I were Max Wood, I’d be really encouraged.
Mrs. Glenn Richardson
July 6th, 2010
1:39 pm
At least I’m better off than I was 4 years ago.
Bobby Anthony
July 6th, 2010
1:46 pm
Only three candidates were concerned enough to show up in Columbia County to debate about the critical water supply in our state. I would like for Barnes, Handel, Oxendine and the rest of the candidates to tell us if they plan on draining water from the Savannah River and dumping it into the Chattahoochee. This action would involve us in a costly water war with South Carolina and endanger Georgia’s commerce at the Port of Savannah. We are already in a legal battle with Florida and Alabama concerning the use of water in our region. Porter, Poythress, and Canon stated they are opposed to draining water from the Savannah. Roy Barnes do you have the intestinal fortitude to tell us where you stand on the issue?
Steve Futrell
July 6th, 2010
11:37 pm
I am sick and tired that every person I vote for office is self serving….. Our present Governor is a great guy but he has allowed his staff to become self serving..i.e. Look at how Ms. Michele Bonner ripped us (The Tax Payers) off millions on the Equani Spa.. (https://www.audits.ga.gov/rsaAudits/downloadRef.aud?refNumber=10645 ) Why are we building a Spa that most Georgians can’t afford to go to anyway? Spend the money on new computers for State employees on the first floor of our own capitol building…Make it easier for the people that face the public everyday to do their job…and how about answering the phone down at the Tax commissioner’s office… I have been trying to get an explanation for 3 months on a $280 tax bill I got from the State… But the phones have not been working at the commissioners’ office for 3 months (that is the number posted on the bill). One last thing…How come I can drive down Hwy 9 in Cumming Georgia and fill my pick-up truck with Illegal aliens while the county sheriff’s deputies watch? I can easily start a painting company or lawn service company but I cannot compete against companies that use this cheap labor…and not have to pay taxes.. I hate labels like “conservative”..I want a Governor that will attack all these issues. I don’t want any more time or money spent on trips to Cuba or stupid Spa’s in north Georgia or building hwys through expensive neighborhoods just to get matching Fed dollars. Spend the monies on our State infrastructure (and either get a new phone system at the tax Commissioners office that works or get a new Commissioner that can manage the people that work for him…).. This is Mr. Tax payer…and now is my turn! I am going to go to every public rally for Governor this year and ask these questions… So fair warning…BE READY
No Teabagging
July 7th, 2010
10:30 am
Randy: the Hank Johnson reference is “Guam” will ‘tip over”. The term “tipping point” is a common term for an event that reverse the direction or course of a situation. In this case the tipping point referred to the environment.
And to Benny and Steve F. Thumbs up!
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