Your morning jolt: Blow that well to Kingdom Come, says Phil Gingrey

Just as Father’s Day weekend began, Denis O’Hayer over at WABE (90.1FM) posted two versions – one long, one short – of an interview with U.S. Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-Marietta).

Gingrey sits on the House committee that last week grilled Tony Hayward, the BP executive, about the oil spill in the Gulf.

U.S. Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-Marietta)/AJC

U.S. Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-Marietta)/AJC

First, there was the matter of that apology from U.S. Rep. Joe Barton (R-Texas), who declared – and then undeclared – that BP was the victim of a White House “shakedown.”

Did Gingrey agree?

“I don’t. I think I understood the point he was trying to make, but I think he was off-base on that, because quite frankly, the CEO of BP, Tony Hayward, met with the president, and the suggestion was made that an escrow fund be created – a $20 billion escrow fund, to be administered by a third party.

“If he agreed to that, then he agreed to it. Certainly that’s what it appeared to be. I would not call that a shakedown, and I don’t think anybody held a gun to his head. I’m sure there was a good deal of pressure to get him to agree to that, but when Joe said that, I thought, well, maybe that’s something he may want to explain and clarify.”

Gingrey said he had his suspicions that BP cut corners to sink that well, nearly a mile below the water’s service, and called Hayward’s testimony “extremely frustrating.”

Then the Georgia congressman said this:

“For the life of me, I can’t understand why BP couldn’t go into the ocean floor, maybe 10 feet lateral to the – around the periphery – drill a few holes and put a little ammonium nitrate, some dynamite, in those holes and detonate that dynamite and seal that leak. And seal it permanently.

“And although I didn’t ask him that question yesterday — I think I had three minutes — if we get another bite at that apple, I’m going to ask that question, over and over again. What is going on here?

“I feel like, and I’ve had people advise me — people in my own district, by the way, who have a lot of experience in mining, say that this could be done.”

That’s how Red Adair rolled.

On ABC’s “This Week,” White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel said Sunday that Barton’s apology was a reflection of a protective attitude that Republicans show toward corporations. “These aren’t political gaffes,” Emanuel said (NYT). “Joe Barton was speaking from prepared remarks.”

Which prompted Sarah Palin to fire up her Twitter machine:

RahmEmanuel= as shallow/narrowminded/political/irresponsible as they come,to falsely claim Barton’s BP comment is “GOP philosophy” Rahm,u lie

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Over at the Savannah Morning News, Larry Peterson hints very strongly that Eric Johnson, the local guy in the race for governor, will launch his TV ad campaign this week.

Writes Peterson:

The Republican candidate for governor must move quickly if he is to have any real chance to win his party’s nomination….

Johnson may have misspoken when he talked earlier this month about an impending “air war” on TV between himself and Oxendine.

He doesn’t need to beat Oxendine just now, and – for the moment – there’s no upside to attacking him.

The Ox might want to buy some positive exposure to use as a cushion, but he doesn’t need to attack Johnson or any other Republican.

He knows that well enough; his recent barbs have targeted former Gov. Roy Barnes, the overwhelming favorite for the Democratic nomination.

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Blake Aued of the Athens Banner-Herald reports this morning that the Board of Regents will meet – by phone – to start tightening its policy toward illegal immigrants:

Committee members will meet via conference call to talk about requiring more proof of Georgia residency to be eligible for in-state tuition.

A Mexican illegal immigrant raised in Georgia who paid in-state tuition at Kennesaw State University sparked the discussion, but regents spokesman John Millsaps said it won’t be limited to illegal immigrants.

“It’s going to be a broader look at the residency status for everyone,” Millsaps said.

Meanwhile, the Board of Regents is under pressure from lawmakers to crack down on illegal immigrants. Fourteen state senators wrote the regents letters last week urging them to ban illegal immigrants from enrolling.

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55 comments Add your comment

Road Scholar

June 21st, 2010
9:23 am

Maybe Rep Gingrey and some of the other Repub/conservative nay sayers can wrap their lips around the pipe and stop the flow! We need to get the flow stopped.

About the way BP put up the money, most conserves stated that it was illegal and strong arming, and that Obama needed to use the courts. Two words- Exxon Valdez. 20 years later,the restitution has finally begun to flow. I guess the immediacy of action doesn’t apply to those damaged and affected. Also, not one conserve responder acknowledged that arbitration and mediation were legal tools to hasten the initial settlement and to reduce the lawyers 40% cut of legal awards!

Jon Lester.

June 21st, 2010
9:36 am

I doubt if any of his friends in the mining business have any experience with high-pressure wells beneath 5,000 feet of water. And the Komsolmoskaya Pravda story about using nuclear bombs to seal oil wells is uncorroborated and likely untrue.

The Snark

June 21st, 2010
9:36 am

Gotta love Phil Gingrey. He always has a simple, common sense answer for any problem. Too bad he doesn’t know anything and is almost always wrong.

Dirty Dawg

June 21st, 2010
9:45 am

It’s not that ’siding with BP’ on this is a Republican ‘philosophy’, it’s that they are absolutely committed to taking the opposite position on anything that this, Democratic, Administration and/or Congress tries to do, regardless if it’s ‘good’ for the country or that the majority of us – all of us – are for it. This idiotic reaction was simply all that the peckerwoods could think of in time for the next news cycle. I mean when the a-hole from Kentucky – McConnell – quickly says its a bad idea then you know that these people have ‘left the reservation’.

TnGelding

June 21st, 2010
9:48 am

Gingrey normally handles himself very well. But I think he’d better leave this one to the experts. I am. He recently held sessions where we citizens got to meet with him one on one. I found it very satisfying even tho he did give me the bum’s rush at the end.

Rahm needs to be fired before the elections. Not that he really deserves it, but “change” is necessary and he’s the easiest target.

Teddy K

June 21st, 2010
10:04 am

Snark, I think you have Barack Obama confused with Gingrey. Obama doesn’t know anything and is almost making Jimmy Carter look like a decent president. Obama is trying his best to ruin this country.

T-Bone

June 21st, 2010
10:07 am

Gingrey’s idea sounds reasonable. But a quick Google search by the Congressman would answer his question. From the NYT (6/2/2010):

“Some have also suggested conventional explosives, claiming that oil prospectors on land have used such blasts to put out fires and seal boreholes. But oil engineers say that dynamite or other conventional explosives risk destroying the wellhead so that the flow could never be plugged from the top.”

Jeffrey

June 21st, 2010
10:08 am

Teddy–This country was already ruined when Obama took office. Where have you been?

Sarah Palin as De Niro in Cape Fear

June 21st, 2010
10:10 am

I’m better that youuuuuu
I can out birth youuuuuu
I can out dress a field moose youuuuu
I can out pimp my children for political purposes youuuuu
I can out foreign policy you because I can out see Russia from my house than youuuuu
I can out Twitter youuuu

I’m better than youuuuuu

TAC

June 21st, 2010
10:10 am

Duh….Red Adair wasn’t stopping an oil well fron flowing. He was putting out a fire. There’s a little difference. Maybe Gingrey should stick to what he know and do….no, wait a second….there’s apparently not a whole lot that he DOES knowm is there?

Travis McGee

June 21st, 2010
10:22 am

The Republicans and Tea Partiers talk a lot to exercise their voice boxes. They want their voice boxes to be in fine ondition in the event they ever have anything meaningful to say.

Bob

June 21st, 2010
10:27 am

Shows that you don’t have to have an IQ higher than a fire ant to get elected to congress in Georgia.

Morrus

June 21st, 2010
10:31 am

droopydawg

June 21st, 2010
10:40 am

Out of curiosity “Bob”, how is this proof that he is stupid? I have not seen any studies that show that blowing the pipe shut is not a viable option. In fact, my assumption is that the only reason this solution is not on the table is that this solution makes the well unusable for BP and would hurt its bottom line because it would seal the leak permanently. The cap that is on now does not help to stop the flow, but does allow BP to sell about 6% of the oil coming out of the leak.

And, FYI, I have never been accused of being a Gingrey supporter. I just think he may be right about this one.

Travis McGee

June 21st, 2010
10:41 am

Phil Gingrey and some of these ol’ boys remind me of my wife: the less she knows about a subject the more she talks and if she is absolutely clueless about a subject, she really gets enthusiastic and loud!

Morrus

June 21st, 2010
10:46 am

Curiously, in a supposed anti-incumbent year, most of the departing are not retiring but seeking higher office. We may recycle more than we replace. The bad news is that a frustrating 114 seats still have but one contestant. Two of them aren’t even incumbents, meaning they will affect state policy without being vetted by voters. And I have to think that we’d be better off if many had run instead for the Legislature — and cut down on the number running unopposed. Georgia’s problems are numerous. They aren’t going away. There’s too much stale thinking at the Capitol, on both sides of the aisle. New voices would be welcome.

ABAD

June 21st, 2010
10:50 am

Teddy, I believe your assessment of Obama might be a bit faulty. I think he knows EXACTLY what he is doing! I ask you: if your intent was to destroy a nation, could you do a better job than Obama has been doing?

Cutty

June 21st, 2010
11:11 am

ABAD- Sure you could do better. You could start wars that never had to be paid for on your watch, tax cuts for your friends in a time of war (first time in the nation’s history), and almost bring the economy to the brink. Jus sayin.

Georgia Conservative

June 21st, 2010
11:13 am

I can’t wait to hear what some of you Obama defenders say when he targets your company for his control or your retirement fund to line the pockets of his political cronies. That’s exactly what this shakedown will of BP will produce. If you think anything different you’re lying to yourself.

T-Bone

June 21st, 2010
11:33 am

For those of you rightly offended by the anti-Catholic comments by Will Jones, keep in mind that this guy, contrary to scientific evidence, believes 9/11 was an inside job and that the moon landing was staged. Consider the source.

Retired Solider

June 21st, 2010
11:38 am

Cutty-
I’m sure you and Obama could do better. Unemployment out of control, federal spending out of control, two wars still fighting. Just saying.

TP4U

June 21st, 2010
11:55 am

@Georgia Conservative – You are an idiot! Where do you get your information the 1957 edition of the World Book Encyclopedia. BP providing compensation to hard working families is beyond your conception. What is the definition of a shakedown – webster’s defines shakedown as extortion.
3 : an act or instance of shaking someone down; especially : extortion

What conversation or video has been provided to the naysayers that depicts BP’s escrow payment to an independent representative of $20 billion dollars as a shakedown or extortion? Please provide proof of this shakedown or stopping repeating something someone else is saying. You sound like a three year old child or an adult jackhole!

Can I get some, my ears hurt by all the talk about the spill.

June 21st, 2010
12:13 pm

I hope BP makes the goverment keep track of every penney they give out. It will turn out like Katrina, where scammers were there in groves to steal the money. Every penny needs to be counted for. New Orleans is trying to get some of it for down town to promote it, Everybody but the right ones will be on the band wagon. Morehouse got in early, they started a six week school to teach people how to wash birds, How much do you think that is going to cost BP? BP needs to pay every penny it owes, just pay the right people.

S.R.Pond

June 21st, 2010
12:24 pm

Invest in clean energy not oil. Our future depends on it. Roger Blanchard, the author of “The Future of Global Oil Production: Facts, Figures, Trends and Projections by Region” published by McFarland & Co. (2005) said… “Desperate people do desperate things. As Americans become more desperate for oil, I expect that the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) and all offshore areas will be opened for oil development. It will be like burning the furniture to keep the house warm in mid-January. It will be a desperate move that won’t result in much.” http://www.energybulletin.net/node/44870

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

June 21st, 2010
12:29 pm

Who but pedophile rapists insist the incested and raped be forced to bear? Gingrey does: http://www.grtl.org/docs/2010%20Primary%20Endorsements-Congressional.pdf

let cajuns handle it

June 21st, 2010
12:30 pm

all these policitans, business, and talking heads think they know. the ppl u r seeing on TV are totally clueless on rigs and rig procedure. the BP chairman is a bussiness man not a nuts and bolts guy. the business men are the ones to blame not because of what they did on the rig but because of the bottom line. they cut corners in saftey equipement, blowout preventers, etc…

but it seems they just switch titles and next in line gets cussed out abit then on to the next. Hell, one of them went to the yacht races. lol, shows whats on his mind.

the policitians grand stand in front of us and pretend to do things

i will never forget the actual “flag waving” they did when the Obamacare was passed. they stood outside the congress and waved a flag around to get the tea party all stirred up (pun). I hope everyone finds that vid and will remember they think we are fools. If you dont like it DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. vote the bums out

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

June 21st, 2010
12:38 pm

America’s Founder, Author, and Prophet:
To Samuel Kercheval Monticello, January 19, 1810 SIR, — Yours of the 7th instant has been duly received, with the pamphlet inclosed, for which I return you my thanks. Nothing can be more exactly and seriously true than what is there stated; that but a short time elapsed after the death of the great reformer of the Jewish religion, before his principles were departed from by those who professed to be his special servants, and perverted into an engine for enslaving mankind, and aggrandising their oppressors in Church and State; that the purest system of morals ever before preached to man, has been adulterated and sophisticated by artificial constructions, into a mere contrivance to filch wealth and power to themselves; that rational men not being able to swallow their impious heresies, in order to force them down their throats, they raise the hue and cry of infidelity, while themselves are the greatest obstacles to the advancement of the real doctrines of Jesus, and do in fact constitute the real Anti-Christ.

Now, what was that you were saying about “anti-Catholic comments,” “T-Bone”? Trying to pour poison on America’s whig roots?

btw – from a previous thread you never got back about the soundstage hardware found outside the sprocket holes of the official NASA photos of the moon landing’s film strips, or explained why there was no “moon dust” on the tops of the “lander’s” perfectly flat feet. Argue the righteousness of your pro-JFK-assassinating-Nixon position, a “feat” we’ve been unable to reaccomplish since. Care to just “disappear” from the thread again: tacitly admitting you’re nothing but a “Fifth Column” traitor?

P.S. For the patriots passing by, read “The New Pearl Harbor,” Griffin, Ph.D., a patriotically donated free Google Book, to know before G-d that Bush and Cheney committed 9/11. Unlike “T-Bone,” the author, an Emeritus Professor of proven and long-standing probity, uses his own given name.

T-Bone,
June 21st, 2010
11:33 am

For those of you rightly offended by the anti-Catholic comments by Will Jones, keep in mind that this guy, contrary to scientific evidence, believes 9/11 was an inside job and that the moon landing was staged. Consider the source.

Cutty

June 21st, 2010
12:49 pm

Retired Soldier- Everything was peachy cream until 1/20/09 huh? Never saw you screaming socialism when Medicare Part D passed. What about all the war supplementals that were put on a credit card? And if I recall, we were losing in excess of 700,000 jobs a month Bush’s last month in office. It may still be bad times, but not as worse if you look at the facts objectively. Something most repubs can never do.

downtowner

June 21st, 2010
1:05 pm

Here’s Morrus again at 10:46, with the same cut-and-paste comment he’s been giving in AJC blogs for weeks now! C’mon, Morrus—write something new!

Paddy O

June 21st, 2010
1:09 pm

Will Jones – “I am damned focused on completely destroying any credibility I ever had – this is how the paranoid, bitter, hate mongerers do it, so that is what I am doing too”. Keep on trucking, Will Jones of Paranoid Island.

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

June 21st, 2010
1:11 pm

“Paddy O,” is this an “argument” you’re having with the snake’s in your own head? Wouldn’t you rather “come out of Babylon” and use the mind G-d gave you, free of the demons inflicted upon you by your pedophile priests?

Georgia Conservative

June 21st, 2010
1:21 pm

TP4U, thanks for the definition of shakedown. What evidence is there that this is what occured? Rahm Emmanuel said this is pretty much what happened. On the Sunday shows he gave the administration full credit for coming up with much of the response that BP has now agreed to.

Don’t get me wrong. I do believe that BP should shoulder most if not ever bit of the finanical responsibility for this crisis. My issues is with the executive branch rather than the judicial branch running point on this. That’s not the way the American system is set up to work. I do not trust this administration to appoint some “third party” to handle this in a fair and non-political manner.

Alabama Communist

June 21st, 2010
1:47 pm

Oh my! Poor Phil! What not Nuke BP Corporate HQ’s in London and end the whole Fascist Corporate affair with our Government?

deegee

June 21st, 2010
2:10 pm

I am so glad that Phil Gingrey thought before offering solutions that involved high powered explosives. Freakin’ Americans, is there any problem that can’t be solved with guns, ammunition and explosives? Hmmm, let me think about that.

I am sure that Tony Hayward was advised to expect the worst from Congress. God knows, Phil Gingrey doesn’t want to own a soundbite like that of another GA congressman, Hank Johnson. Has Guam tipped over yet?

dagnabit

June 21st, 2010
2:26 pm

Maybe the holes could be drilled on each side of the republican party and then…………………..BOOM!

ABAD

June 21st, 2010
2:46 pm

If Will Jones could be bought for what he is worth and sold for what he thinks he is worth, we could pay off the national debt, rebuild the World Trade Center and buy a fleet of five space shuttles!

Retired Solider

June 21st, 2010
2:53 pm

Cutty-

I’ll be happy to agree with you the sins of Bush if you agree with me Obama ia equally as bad as Bush. What do you say Cutty?

Intown

June 21st, 2010
2:55 pm

Wouldn’t a giant stick of dynamite just blow A BIGGER hole in this well? Why are Repubs so dumb?

Retired Solider

June 21st, 2010
2:56 pm

Georgia Conservative-

I agree with you. I saw the “independant” third party on TV this morning. He said his piorities are the ones Obama gave him. So much for independant.

DawgDad

June 21st, 2010
2:57 pm

deegee: “is there any problem that can’t be solved with guns, ammunition and explosives?” Not that I can think of. Does not mean the ends always justify the means, though.

Assuming the Obama administration is serious about plugging this leak and protecting our shores their lack of leadership is astounding. Any average kindergarten teacher could run circles around these clowns in terms of command leadership and disaster response. The independent and left-of-center voters are finally catching on to this.

Maybe they should throw money at the problem. Print out a few trillion in one dollar bills, cart them out into the gulf, and sink them over the well head. Would be just about as cost-effective as anything else these clowns have done or will do with our money.

Retired Solider

June 21st, 2010
2:58 pm

Because we have been dumbed down after many years of fighting libs/dems Intown. The solution? Replace Pelosi and Reid in Nov. Then watch how smart we are!

DawgDad

June 21st, 2010
3:06 pm

Intown: “Wouldn’t a giant stick of dynamite just blow A BIGGER hole in this well? Why are Repubs so dumb?” You can’t possibly be serious. Explaining this would insult the intelligence of every other poster here. Perhaps thinking “nuke” instead of dynamite would help. You bury a nuke, detonate it, it collapses the well shaft and turns everything within reach to [essentially] glass, sealing the hole. Reportedly the Russians have some experience with this. Keep in mind, Democrats have been known to go nuke whereas I’d be worried about the Republicans stomach for this sort of thing.

Tri-star

June 21st, 2010
3:13 pm

I have always considered myself an independent – with a Libertarian leaning. One thing Obama and the democrat-controlled congress has done is to put me solidly and forever in the Republican camp. The idea of spending ourselves rich and borrowing our way out of debt has made me swear a solemn oath to NEVER vote for another democrat – even for dog-catcher.

Retired Solider

June 21st, 2010
3:30 pm

Welcome aboard Tri-star.

T-Bone

June 21st, 2010
4:05 pm

Will Jones: You’re entitled to believe whatever you like about JFK, 9/11, or the moon landing. I’m certainly not going to try to have a rational argument with a conspiracy theorist. You’re also entitled to criticize politicians like Gingrey for their personal religious beliefs, though I’m not sure the founding fathers would agree with your sentiment.

Tri-star

June 21st, 2010
4:29 pm

T-Bone, you are right about a “rational argument”. Reminds me of something I was told many years ago: When you argue with a fool, pretty soon it’s hard to tell who the fool is!

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

June 21st, 2010
4:38 pm

Any clue what “whig” means, “T-Bone?”

The Founders were all “whigs” and you’re welcome to read their pamphlets laying out the airtight argument – which convinced their countrymen to place their lives at sacrifice to create America – that a conspiracy was in effect to enslave all of British North America. KIng and pope, then. King (Rockefeller/Bush) and pope, now. You just a Johnny-come-lately trying to slurp the gravy off America’s Founding, without a clue what the Creed means?

Man up, “T-Bone.” The First Amendment is G-d’s grace by the Founders’ covenant.

Debunk “The New Pearl Harbor’s” proof, by a scholar of probity, that Bush and Cheney committed 9/11. While you’re at it – unless you want to admit you’re just a windbag and a punk – explain why we haven’t “returned” to the Moon since Nixon (who we know, with GHWBush, led the assassination of John Kennedy to send us to die for the pope in Vietnam), and answer my stated reservations based on the outside-the-sprockets soundstage hardware on NASA’s official “moon landing” photos, and why there wasn’t any debris kicked up by the landing rockets, on the top of the lunar module’s flat feet? Or just keep running your mouth.

“What a conspiracy this, between Church and State! Sing Tantarara, rogues all, rogues all, Sing Tantarara, rogues all!” Th. Jefferson

You “smarter” than America’s Founder, “T-Bone,” or just another Roman Catholic trying to make way for your Babylonian priesthood?

oldfart

June 21st, 2010
4:54 pm

OK you geniuses, the pressure of the escaping oil, from a 21-inch diameter pipe, was last quoted by British Petroleum at 30,000 psi (2,041 atmospheres!).

Water pressure at the well head depth is 2,617 psi (178 atmospheres). Just get yourself a nuke or whatever to survive those pressures and go deep enough to do anything more than make a bigger hole.

The relief wells will be the only real solution and I would be surprised if they are actually in place and functional by the end of the year. Just consider your dip while at the Redneck Riviera in the coming years to have an additional bath oil. In the end this will be one of, if not the worst man made environmental disasters in history. There are no quick fixes and this should be considered with any future deep well drilling.

[...] Blow that well to Kingdom Come, says Phil Gingrey, Atlanta Journal Constitution, June 21, 2010: Just as Father’s Day weekend began, Denis O’Hayer over at WABE (90.1FM) posted two versions – one long, one short – of an interview with U.S. Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-Marietta). … [...]

Irish65

June 22nd, 2010
7:06 pm

It’s always a proud moment when one of our Representatives gives us a simplistic solution to a complicated problem. It shows the total ignorance of the facts, and the willingness to display it.
The “plan” Phil Gingery has is not only not a sollution, it would make the flow much larger.
But don’t let the facts get in the way.
He’s probably based his knowledge on the movie he saw with Red Adair, when they used dynamite to stop a well fire. That works in some cases because the fire is deprived of oxygen long enough that it doesn’t re-ignite.
Just goes to show you the depth of thought that this guy puts into his work…just to get a headline.
I hope he does get a chance to bring it up in the hearings. Those things need the comedic relief!!