Can Roy Barnes win without a Democratic runoff?

It may be time to start wondering if Roy Barnes can win the July 20 Democratic primary for governor without a cash-consuming runoff.

For the second time in less than a month, a statewide poll has shown the former Georgia governor with an overwhelming lead.

In late May, it was a WSB-TV/InsiderAdvantage poll, which showed Barnes leaping to a 64 percent lead. On Monday evening, a SurveyUSA poll showed Barnes with the support of 63 percent of Democratic respondents, with Attorney General Thurbert Baker, his closest competitor, at 13 percent.

See the details here. Crosstabs can be found here.

The poll was sponsored by group of three media outlets – 11Alive News and V103-FM in Atlanta, and 13WMAZ-TV of Macon.

The same poll shows that, on the Republican side of the race for governor, state Insurance Commissioner John Oxendine holds a commanding lead of 34 percent, with former secretary of state Karen Handel (18 percent) and former congressman Nathan Deal (17 percent) in a tight race for second place.

Former state Sen. Eric Johnson of Savannah, who with Oxendine went up on TV today, was rated at 6 percent.

The specs from 11Alive:

So the two polls have separate MOEs – 3.6 percent in the Republican survey, and 4.3 percent in the Democratic contest.

On that Democratic side of the race, Barnes’ early presence on TV – he issued his sixth ad of the campaign last week – is clearly a factor.

Baker began his TV campaign on Sunday, and came out with a second introductory ad today – aimed at most of the major Georgia markets:

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66 comments Add your comment

Bobby Anthony

June 21st, 2010
7:21 pm

Here is one person who has already voted against Barnes. I voted for Poythress.

Cutty

June 21st, 2010
7:22 pm

Thurbert Baker= Genarlow Wilson= No Black vote.

Can the dems just nominate Barnes to the general?

Tom

June 21st, 2010
7:46 pm

IT DOESNT MATTER WHO WINS.. THEY LOSE IN NOVEMBER

Rob Vinson

June 21st, 2010
8:06 pm

I think he can win without a runoff and if its going to be Barnes against the Ox…I think Roy Barnes will win it. I think the $40M he has raised thus far is staggering. 8 years ago he raised $20M and lost to Perdue.

Producer

June 21st, 2010
8:11 pm

Of course he wins without a runoff. Baker is a joke.

Ron Revog

June 21st, 2010
8:23 pm

Another poll shows that Barnes loses against EVERY REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE! History also shows he’s a proven loser considering he lost with 35 million dollars last time as an incumbent Governor! A vote for Barnes is a vote against the democratic party. A candidate like DuBose Porter i think could almost easily win in November, if he wins the primary, he’ll be our next Governor.

AngryVoter

June 21st, 2010
8:25 pm

Can someone please explain to me how the common sense solution to a budget crisis is not furloughing teachers? Whether one if in favor of teacher furloughs or not, how can this be a common sense solution to a budget crisis? It seems like no more furloughs would be a continuation of the problem. If Barnes has a solution to the budget problem, why is he hiding it? Why does he think the electorate will be silly enough to not realize he is using doublespeak and trying to fool people?

What is his solution to the budget problems? He seems to be promising lots of spending, like a teenager with a credit card. Would you give your teen the credit card if the teen told you he was going on a spending spree? Then why are people considering turning over the State checkbook to this man?

The party that can win in November is the party that does not nominate Ox or Barnes. If each party fails on that, the only way Ox can win is if Barnes is the Dem nominee. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that.

AngryVoter

June 21st, 2010
8:29 pm

Ron, I agree with you about Porter being the best of a very bad set of choices. He is the one person from either party who could actually attract voters from the other side of the spectrum. Too bad the Dems are to stubborn or blinded to realize this. The election is the Dem’s to lose. Going with a proven loser is a sure way to blow it.

Kiljoy

June 21st, 2010
8:55 pm

It doesn’t matter who wins…WE lose in November!

Sasha

June 21st, 2010
8:57 pm

do U think Atlanta/Ga will wake up anytime soon—-its like they are sleeping thru this madness!!!

Rafe Hollister

June 21st, 2010
8:59 pm

Rerun Roy’s undisclosed solution to the budget problem is akin to Tricky Dick’s, I Have a Plan to win the war in Vietnam. Nixon would not discuss his secret plan just like ole King Rat, because there was nothing there, but declare victory and cut and run. Rerun Roy will declare there is no budget crisis and start spending on all his pet projects. Taxes will soon be raised to cover the spending. Problem solved. One term for rerun Roy again.

Wilda

June 21st, 2010
9:15 pm

Even King Roy can beat Bingo Baker.

BABY SAY

June 21st, 2010
9:16 pm

BABY BEE SAYIN LONNOOOOOOOOG TIM DAT ROY GOIN WIND DIS ELECKSHON. ROY APOLERGIZD TOO TEECHERS…. HE GOIN WIND. OX AND CARIN HANDLE BE IN RUN__OFF. HANDLE MAYBEE PULL UPSET __ EXPECIALLEE IF DAT ETHICKS COMMERSION BEE GITTIN OX REEL GUD. BUT IT NO MATTER ATAL…..ROY GOIN BEE NEX GUVNER. BABY SAY SO!!!

BABY SAY

June 21st, 2010
9:18 pm

NO RUN8OFF FER ROY. HOO BE GWOIN BEE IN RUN__OFF WIT ROY. DUBUSE OR THERBECK????? SHEEEEEEEEEEEET.

BABY SAY

June 21st, 2010
9:22 pm

BOYDRESS? BOBBI, HOO HE BE?? NO WON PERSONS NO WHO HEE BE. NOT NO PERSONS IN LUTHERSVEEL.

Daisy Duke

June 21st, 2010
9:35 pm

In Baker’s ad……..”he’s a quiet man.” That scares me. When I hear that, I think of neighbors being interviewed after the arrest of a mass murderer……….”he was a quiet man.”

Atl Resident

June 21st, 2010
9:40 pm

Just the hell with all of the Repubs trying to run for office cause they are proven to be worthless.

old teach

June 21st, 2010
9:53 pm

Now let’s see…You have a proven liar who is promising things he can’t possibly deliver on(no more furloughs, raises, etc). And we are supposed to trust him? No thanks.

UsmcDawg

June 21st, 2010
10:10 pm

It is real simple:
If you vote Democrat, you are voting for Affirmative Action, Illegal Immigration, Higher Taxes, Weak National Defense, Government Handouts, etc.
The Republicans are not perfect either, but they are MUCH better than Democrats, and they are not pushing a Socialist agenda like the Dems.

Nathan Deal

June 21st, 2010
10:15 pm

King Roy…Masser of the Section 8 Rentals…He will command da black vote!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jeff

June 21st, 2010
10:24 pm

All democrats suck.

Matchtuff

June 21st, 2010
10:33 pm

8 yrs of Republican Perdue chicken rule is enough. Time for a Dem to win.Oh yeah Baker’s stand on Genarlow Wilson sealed the deal with a lot of blacks and we know he has tons of white support he can count on. I guess he wants a new job.

wes

June 21st, 2010
10:34 pm

The budget was in much better shape when Roy left office.

Sonny was horrible…had a helluva time passing a budget even when republicans held the majority. Put Roy back in and get the budget crisis headed back in the right direction.

USMCdawg…you really think the Governor of Georgia has anything to do with National Security?

Bill

June 21st, 2010
11:07 pm

Perdue pandered to the teachers and the flaggers and look what that got them. I hope Roy does win. He was right for Georgia the last time and will be good for Georgia again.

CRCT'd Out

June 21st, 2010
11:15 pm

Does it make any sense to hand everything back over to a man that is making HUGE promises that he can’t possibly keep? As a teacher, I hate the furloughs, but I see the logic to them. Barnes had his shot. Why on earth should we put him back in? I think we’re in a world of trouble. Who will hurt us the least?

UGA graduate

June 21st, 2010
11:23 pm

Georgians look back to before the Republicans sent the state into financial ruin after eight years of Perdue. It looks likes all those tax breaks for corporations and the wealthy had destroyed the state, rather than those lies the GOP told us. They just wanted to rob the middle class and now we have crowded roads, infrastructure falling apart, education going down the tubes, and more prisons. Name one positive thing that happened while Perdue was governor, besides his funding of bass fishing. He signed a $875 technology contract with AT&T and IBM to outsource jobs done by state workers for less. Just plain dumb!

just say no

June 21st, 2010
11:48 pm

I read in the Savannah newspaper that Roy Barnes intends to aggressively invest State of GA employees’ retirement monies and when the teachers see how well he’s done, they will want him to do the same with Teachers Retirement. Teachers get very upset when governors talk about messing with their pension. I think teachers will come out and vote against Barnes. Porter or Poythress is the way to go.

atlmom

June 21st, 2010
11:49 pm

John Monds for Governor.

ss teach

June 22nd, 2010
12:19 am

Vote for Roy! He is the only one campaigning and dedicating his time to reach out to the problems and say he will work on them. Nobody else is daring to address the issues!
How can Roy do this? Demanding more federal money and maybe raising taxes – do I hate that, yes! But, come on, these are your children that are being under-educated by the Republicans…..can you not ante a few more dollars per month in property taxes, etc to get your child a better education????? I do not see why counties are holding out on raising millage rates instead of cutting funds – is it because it’s election year?
It’s time someone stood up for education – the NUMBER ONE item in our state constitution that is supposed to be funded first and most importantly. Wake up people – we are going to need to help fund this state out of Perdue’s backward ways – that’s what you get for voting Republican TWICE!

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

June 22nd, 2010
12:19 am

No member of the Bush/Cheney Gay Old Pervert party should be supported in Georgia.

Chapman would get my vote if Barnes were able to cheat/buy the Dem nomination, but GRTL endorsed him (as one seeking to reward pedophile rapists by forcing the raped and incested to bear), so I’m really hoping we can all agree on electing DuBose and Carol Porter this time.

As he’s clearly married to a fine lady (”L-rd only gives sons to strong women.”), his family is a good sign that DuBose is the way to go.

Annuit Coeptis for Georgia and America

ga female

June 22nd, 2010
12:33 am

Dah! Georgia wake up! Before this state tips over. The Republican’s have driven it to financial ruin in 7 years with all of their special interest tax cuts. The state is falling apart and still one of the last in education. It has been hijacked by the faux Religious right wing that use the “Capital” as their play ground to have affairs on their wifes. The biggest bunch around are the Right wing Republican Christian zealots that want to dictate to everyone else how they should live.

Worst of all we have the selfish Tom Price, the pitchman for big oil, who says screw everyone whose way of life has been ruined by the greed of BP. Wake up before it is too late and vote the Republicans out. Or are Georgians that ignorant.

AngryVoter

June 22nd, 2010
1:06 am

ss teacch – the federal government is tapped out. King Roy’s “plan” to beg for money from the feds has no chance of working, so it’s not a plan. As for raising taxes, I’d have no problem if Rat Roy was honest about this. Instead, he is making promises left and right without stating how they will be funded.

The tanking economy is a national problem that is impacting states regardless of whether the Gov is Dem or Rep. The solution is going to be fiscal responsibility, not praying that the feds will somehow find money left after spending it on AIG, Fannie and Freddie, Health Care, cleaning up the Gulf (yeah, BP will go bankrupt and leave us with the bill on that, for sure), extended unemployment benefits, wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and a limitless retirement obligation for federal workers who seem to be living much longer.

Barnes offers us no solutions, just a bunch of sound bites that anyone with half a brain can see right through. Forced mediation for mortgage companies is laughable, as the parties are already required to negotiate and the state has absolutely no power to require either party to lift a finger. No furloughs isn’t a solution as much as it is yet another unfunded promise. Roy reminds me of Lincoln. You can fool some of the people some of the time…. Fool us again, shame on us!

CJKatl

June 22nd, 2010
1:22 am

I’ve started a facebook page entitled “Either Party Can Win GA Gov Election by Not Nominating Barnes or Ox.” Please sign on so that we can dissuade either party from making a mistake that will cost the people of GA. Tell your friends and neighbors. We need the parties to wake up and realize either of these two fools is wrong for GA.

Ivory

June 22nd, 2010
2:27 am

Just SAY NO to THURBERT BAKER for governor……..he has shown that he will not represent the people of Georgia, by neglecting to put the Obama administration in check with the Health Care Issue, in fact, I foresee that he will more than likely be a PUPPET for Obama! JUST SAY NO to THURBERT BAKER for Governor.

Winfield J. Abbe

June 22nd, 2010
4:58 am

When people donate money to Barnes, do not they expect favors in return? This is basically a bribe.
Don’t vote for him. Haven’t we seen enough of him?
Isn’t it improper for Baker to run for office while taking money from the State as the so-called Attorney General who refuses to enforce the law of Georgia?
Do not vote for either of these corrupt so and so’s. Georgia is a very corrupt state and all they do is add to that corruption. Haven’t lawyers caused enough damage to our government as it is? They are for secrecy in police and judicial department so citizens cannot know what is going on and are therefore impotent to do anything about improving government. Secrecy is the enemy of the truth.
Do not vote for either Baker or Barnes.

Winfield J. Abbe

June 22nd, 2010
5:04 am

The other day it was announced in the ATlanta Journal Constitution that a senior Superior Court Judge was caught having sex with a Public Defender in a car in an abandoned subdivision almost two years ago. Over 200 cases were tried between these two since this sordid incident. The judge was a UGA graduate and even a former Colonel in the Air Force. The Public Defender was a New York Law School Graduate and much younger in age. She is the wife of another well known lawyer in Atlanta. Has the Attorney General filed any charges against these two for patent ethics violations and for trampling the rights of citizens in their courts? No not a word from that corrupt Attorney General Baker. The legal system of GEorgia is a corrupt cesspool. Lawyers have created this cesspool. They should be prohibited from running for any more offices. Do not vote for any lawyer for office. Do not vote for that corrupt good for nothing BAker. Do not vote for that coward Barnes.

Balderdash

June 22nd, 2010
5:46 am

Can people not see that John Oxendine is a walking disaster? I don’t mind Republicans shooting themselves in the groin, but this guy could actually get elected and he’s a corrupt buffoon, moreso than Sonny Puredoo.

Mid-South Philosopher

June 22nd, 2010
6:05 am

Roy Barnes may succeed in making a political comeback. He has admitted his errors in dealing with folks back in the 1999-2003 era; however, I would feel a little more friendly toward him if he would admit that, back then, he suffered from the “arrogance syndrome.” I suspect he still has symptoms of that malady still lingering in his political character.

Teachers seem to be warming toward him. After the “trip to the woodshed” that they gave him in 2002, he knows that he cannot win without, at least, tacit teacher support. Of course, just about anything would be a boon to teachers after antics of “Silly Sonny.” By the way, is it true that our esteemed governor’s next career is going to be as spokesman for Jeanne Craig?

And there is no way in Hades that Roy is going to gain any support from the “Flaggers.” They are as much a lost cost to the boy as the cause for which their ancestors fought in the mid-nineteenth century.

I could also do with “King Roy” being a little more specific about how he is going to perform all these economic and social wonder-works that he seems to be promising. About one “anointed one” at a time is all that I can stand!

Mid-South Philosopher

June 22nd, 2010
6:07 am

My typing this morning is atrocious. Don’t worry…the rest of you will get old, too, someday.

Fauntle-ROY Barnes

June 22nd, 2010
7:17 am

How about a new state flag ?

I created over 200,000 new jobs in Georgia !

King Roy is da man !

Who Cares

June 22nd, 2010
7:48 am

usmcDawg is right……..the dems are anti-American, anti-God, anti-Constitution, the repubs aren’t much better, but they are better. People with a short memory may vote for Barnes in the primary, but Ox, Deal or McBerry will be the next governor.

Bill Orvis White

June 22nd, 2010
7:51 am

Mr. McBerry is the only qualified candidate in this race. I wouldn’t mind seeing Mr. Johnson or the Ox in Georgia’s Governor’s Mansion, but Mr. McBerry needs to be heard. Unfortunately, the left-wing media has been railroading Ray from Day One. If we want a higher quality of life, school choice, religious rights for Christians, low/no taxe$, a culture of life and state control, then everyone who cares about Georgia staying Georgia, needs to put Mr. McBerry in the Governor’s Mansion NOW!

Roy Barnes sold the flag out the the politically correct crowd Inside the Perimeter and their friends in Washington. For that, Mr. Barnes should never return.

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

June 22nd, 2010
8:47 am

A dry drunk, papist plumber in Hattiesburg Mississippi with a wife and an eye that lusts after Sarah Palin, who insists that pedophile rapists be rewarded by having the government force their raped victims to bear, in keeping with the dictates of the Hitler-financing Babylonian pedophile priesthood which probably molested him, has spoken.

Will Yetelmee

June 22nd, 2010
9:12 am

Yes. I think Roy Barnes will win the primary and then beat Oxendine to become our next Governor.

Mike

June 22nd, 2010
9:12 am

Let’s hope Roy (Good ‘Ol Boy) Barnes doesn’t even make a runoff. We’re sorely lacking in good gubernatorial candidates this time around.

Road Scholar

June 22nd, 2010
9:13 am

UGA Grad: You asked for one positive thing Perdue has done. He’s leaving office!

just say no: Barnes will invest in the State Employees retirement fund since it is only funded at about a 90% rate. Perdue/Repubs reduced the states payments into the fund in 2002 and have never addressed the shortfall it has created. They thought the higher than normal rate of return in 2002 would be maintained; great financial decision like all their others.

The teachers fund has been funded at over 100%. If you remember, the legislature wanted to allow an increase in risk in the state employees fund investments, but refused to even discuss it for the Teachers fund. The leader said, and I paraphrase, that he had numerous relatives who were teachers and he didn’t want to piss them off by proposing the same for the teachers fund. The attempt to increase the risk was defeated; good decision in hindsight since all investments , esp the higher risk, have tanked.

Posters above: So give me the specifics that any Repub will do, esp Ox, to the budget. More take breaks for businesses? That has worked real well in the past huh?

Road Scholar

June 22nd, 2010
9:15 am

Mike the poll indicates he has 60+ % of the vote…I think he’ll win outright, and at least make the runoff if the poll estimates are too high. Heck, he may even win if he pulls out!

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

June 22nd, 2010
9:35 am

After reading Thomas Jefferson’s analysis of “the real Anti-Christ” is was easy to see political economically just who “the Beast” is needing to be “cast into the Pit:” the City on Seven Hills and their American “Fifth Column” which killed Kennedy and King to send us to VN and which committed 9/11, et al, but I never conceived of a real-world interpretation of Revelation 8:8 “And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood.”

Looking at the redness of the oil on the Gulf’s surface, the “volcano’s” flame burning off the gas, and a 21″ diameter pipe piercing the earth’s crust gushing at 12,000 PSI, compliments of the Old Sectarian Order’s BP-owning “queen” of England we came here and built the New Secular Order to prevent, is reason to rally against Rockefeller/Bush’s Big Oil which has given us Tom Price, Joe Barton and the rest of their bi-partisan hirelings in Our Congress who watched “the white jumbo jet’s lumbering turn directly overhead at the U.S. Capitol” on 9/11, as an excuse to go and protect the polygamous Saudis from secular, progressive Muslims…yet Bush and Cheney still breath our American air.

Perdue and the Gay Old Pervert party in Georgia is part of the Anti-Christ’s “Beast” and Roy Barnes got rich as the People suffered without a peep from the draft-dodging pansy.

Carol Porter shows the grace, good character and personal integrity, so prominent in Georgians throughout this paradise we call home, by G-d, (except in the shill politicians bought by fascist plutocracy’s treason against the People), as a feature in the Porter household that we can leverage in DuBose’s election. He may not be perfect (and only G-d is) but he’s a start on the return to the Path of Righteousness.

AngryVoter

June 22nd, 2010
10:50 am

Mid-South – please don’t tell me that you heard the soundbite that Roy apologized and bought that hook, line and sinker. In his commercial, he went on to say that his mistake was not communicating with the people of GA in a way that they realized how great he is and how wonderful were all the things he did. It wasn’t an apology. It was blaming the people of GA. It was disgusting, as is most of what Roy is trying to pull over the eyes of the people of GA. Unfortunately, the Dem electorate seems willing and able to buy this bill of goods. The problem is, when you get to the general election, the Reps and Inds see right through this and won’t vote for him.

The Dems have a chance of winning this year, which they will blow by nominating someone who is unacceptable to everyone else. The only way Ox can win is if Barnes is the opponent. Barnes is the only Dem who loses to every viable Rep. As an Ind, it’s frustrating to see that the Dems are so messed up that they don’t see this. Very frustrating.

Sunny Side UP

June 22nd, 2010
11:28 am

I already voted for DuBose Porter! Who are these people voting for Barnes that are taking these polls? Most people I talk to are either voting for Porter or Poythress, not Baker or Barnes.