Your morning jolt: Unemployment benefits ‘too much of an allure’ for some, says John Linder
He’s said it before, but this time retiring U.S. Rep. John Linder (R-Ga.) is getting some attention with his argument that federally funded extensions of unemployment benefits are counterproductive.
U.S. Rep. John Linder of Gwinnett County/ Cox Washington Bureau
Georgia Republican Rep. John Linder suggested Thursday that extended unemployment benefits keep people from looking for work.
After complaining that the Democrats’ stimulus bill has failed to keep unemployment from hitting double digits, Linder said, “And even when businesses are willing to hire, nearly two years of unemployment benefits are too much of an allure for some,” said Linder. “The evidence is mounting that so-called stimulus policies rammed through Congress are doing more harm than good.”
Linder made his remarks during a hearing held by the House Ways and Means Subcommittee on Income Security and Family Support. He’s the ranking Republican.
The Gwinnett County congressman, who announced this spring that this would be his last term, said roughly the same thing after first reading this May 10 piece from the Detroit News — which cited instances in which landscapers had refused employment in an effort to keep their unemployment benefits.
From a statement issued last month by the congressman:
“When you build it they will come. When you build more of it, more will come, and those that were already there will stay even longer–I’m talking of course about the medley of unemployment insurance (UI) benefit extensions being signed into law. Reports are coming in now that individuals are purposely staying unemployed so that they can continue to be propped up by the American taxpayer as long as possible.”
On Thursday, the Atlanta Press Club hosted a session with Sue Everhart and Jane Kidd, the two women who—respectively — run the state Republican and Democratic parties.
Everhart came to the defense of Karen Handel, the Republican candidate for governor, whom the anti-abortion group Georgia Right to Life had refused to endorse – in part because Handel supports a right to abortion in cases of rape or incest.
GRTL, whose president is Dan Becker, recognizes a right to abortion only when the life of the mother is threatened.
The press club session was moderated by Denis O’Hayer of WABE (90.1FM), who fortunately had hit the “record” button. He posted the sound Thursday night.
Here’s exactly what Everhart said:
“Mr. Becker and I don’t agree on a lot of things. We’re both pro-life. But our approach to our message is a lot different. I do not – nor do members of my party – give a litmus test to people who want to come into the party. We don’t say you can’t run…for the position if you are pro-choice.
“I’m sure that we have many people in our party that are not pro-life. It’s not don’t-ask-don’t-tell, but we’re conservatives. And I think that is the important thing. Maybe I shouldn’t say this, but Mr. Becker had requested that I put something on the state [primary] ballot. I said absolutely not.
“It is a social issue. I am interested in taxes, the economy, and the safety of my family in our own home.
“Karen Handel is pro-life…I don’t care what her exceptions are. She is pro-life. I don’t ask people, ‘What is your exception?’ And Mr. Becker is not the voice of the Georgia Republican party or the national Republican party. He represents very few people as far as being as outspoken as he is.
“I would say that two-thirds of the Georgia Republican party is pro-life. And the ones that say they’re pro-choice, they will say, ‘I’m pro-life for myself, personally. I just don’t agree that I should bother with other people’s rights.’”
Eric Johnson, the Republican candidate on Thursday unloaded a series of proposals to contain illegal immigration in Georgia. One element was his suggest that public K-12 schools be required to ascertain the citizenship status of their students. Why?
According to the Rome News-Tribune:
“So we can determine how many illegal immigrants we are providing an education for and then sue the federal government for compensation,” Johnson said.
Down on the coast, people are talking about the firing of Carl Smith, fire chief for the small burg of Thunderbolt, by the town council. Municipal officials said they sacrificed the chief’s $52,000 salary to save the jobs of three lesser employees.
Smith is out of town, but told News 3 in a statement that he is “shocked, stunned, and disappointed at the decision.” He said it’s “nothing more than ‘political retribution’” since he’s seeking to challenge Congressman John Barrow in the November election.
Smith is one of four Republican candidates in the July 20 primary.
The Associated Press is tallying up the costs of four rounds of voting in the 9th District congressional race – A special election and runoff in May and June, followed by primary votes in July and, likely, August:
The May 11 special election and the June 8 special election runoff have cost the district’s 15 counties hundreds of thousands of dollars combined, local officials say.
In Hall County – the district’s most populous – costs for the two elections are about $90,000. In neighboring Forsyth County the price tag is roughly $75,000.
In Lumpkin County, elections supervisor Kimberly Pruitt said the more than $26,000 needed to pay for the special election and subsequent runoff has used all the money she had set aside this year to purchase new voter equipment. And she still has to find another $10,000.
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GOP Voter
June 11th, 2010
9:35 am
The extreme elements that have taken over the GOP trouble me. Where are the moderates? Guys like Linder, Balfour, Cox, Debbie Dooley, etc harken back to the bad old days – although they would say the “good ole days.” I read today that Gwinnett’s white population is now in minority status. These politicians must be scared out of their minds!!!!!!! Just look at Linder – he is not only retiring, but is moving far out of his district to good ole Mississippi!
Raquel Morris
June 11th, 2010
9:45 am
John Linder, God is watching you.
JAW
June 11th, 2010
10:03 am
Thank you John Linder. Just when I start to get complacent along comes someone blotted from feeding from the teat of the taxpayer to tell us just how lazy the average working person really is.
Why don’t we send all the John Linders back to their homes with no pensions, no medical coverage and little or no prospects of finding employment. Maybe a dose of the reality faced daily by millions of our fellow humans would wake him and others of his ilk. I doubt it.
God help the people of this and all other nations when those charged with the duty to serve us only feed on us.
lmno
June 11th, 2010
10:07 am
I would guess that there are some elements of truth to his statement. However, I am certainly for extending unemployment benefits overall.
There are probably a very few unemployed who have become content. However, the vast majority would like to work, I would guess.
As the number of unemployed has grown, I have often wondered what I would do if left jobless.
I suppose now I’d head to the gulf to clean rocks or count people for the census.
clem
June 11th, 2010
10:12 am
Linder just proves one more time what an idiot he is.
John K
June 11th, 2010
10:16 am
When I was unemployed the benefits were barely enough to keep us afloat. I furiously spent my time looking for a job.
It’s just more of the typical out of touch, FU attitude.
Really
June 11th, 2010
10:25 am
Johnsons proposal is to sue the federal government? That makes as much sense as Ox calling for a constitutional convention.
Francis
June 11th, 2010
10:25 am
It’s just sooooo wonderful that you are finally retiring Mr. Linder. Have a wonderful life far away from the centers of power.
Thomas
June 11th, 2010
10:25 am
Linder’s hypocrisy is shocking. Does he not get a salary and an incredible pension off the back of the taxpayer? These supposedly “too lazy to work” folks?
FormerGeorgian
June 11th, 2010
10:29 am
The Republican Party won’t be in control of Gwinnett much longer……….
Marty
June 11th, 2010
10:39 am
Oh yes, people are having a party living on $1200 a month feeding/supporting a family and home. Puhleeeze.
Karl Marx
June 11th, 2010
10:42 am
What a Bozo. It is called Unemployment “Insurance” and we pay for it not the damn government. What the government does is play with the benfits which is NOT the fault of the Unemployed. Fire every politician and lets start over.
Monroe Burbank
June 11th, 2010
10:42 am
These Republicans are a bunch of screwballs. Unfortunately, their constituencies are an even bigger bunch of screwballs for electing them. All these years he’s been in office and what has he done for Georgia? Oh, that’s right. NOTHING.
I’ve been looking rigorously since July of last year. I went from making $1700 per week to $299 on unemployment. Yeah, John, this is the good life. Wouldn’t change it for the world.
Hopefully in his retirement Linder will keep his big mouth shut. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out, buddy.
Beeg Boi
June 11th, 2010
10:47 am
What a Dooosch. Let’s see, 1500 mortgage-400 car- plus utilities, food and fuel. Yeah that 322/per week gross will keep me from working, you Betcha. Tar and Feather all the jackazzes in office and the one’s who aspire to hold office. This is where partisan politics lead you.
lou
June 11th, 2010
11:04 am
Well, Monroe, you are so right! We Georgians keep electing these screwballs even though they have done NOTHING for our state. That makes us as crazy as they are. For example, Oxendine seems to be the frontrunner for governor. Yet what has he done for us? He has helped himself by filling up his pocket with money from insurance companies. And Georgia has the 8th highest car insurance rates in the country.
Maxine
June 11th, 2010
11:12 am
Some elements of truth? Maybe, but remember this is the same Congressman who did not remember when a local candidate traveled with him to a FairTax Ralley in Missouri,
T
June 11th, 2010
11:12 am
I’d LOVE to see Linder live on the 330 dollar a week maximum benefits.Most people don’t get that max. Do these people not understand how much money a person gets on unemployment? It’s like they think people are collecting tens of thousands of dollars each. I’m so tired of people acting like collecting unemployment means you’re a lazy bum.
You guys are dolts
June 11th, 2010
11:22 am
Linder is right. By friend collected benes for a year. Only looked for work online. My bud lost a job earning 50k. He could have gone to wallmart or some other service type job, and made about 300$ a week.
He chose to sit at home and collect about 300$ a week.You think he is the only gut to make that choice? Hah
My friend did end up getting a good job- but anybody that thinks people will not milk the system is kinda stupid.
Just as my bud would have been stupid to flip bugers for a year.
You guys are dolts
June 11th, 2010
11:33 am
That should be guys not guts. Also I am not saying anyone on this board who is out of work is lazy, or would do what my friend did. I hope you all find good jobs, or new careers. I feel for ya-its gotta suck.
Fact is however, for a certain number of people sitting on buttocks, while waiting on a GOOD job makes sense.
What is that number? Dont know. But I do know it is at Least one…good ol -Mark heh heh
TimOregon
June 11th, 2010
11:34 am
I am not one of the unemployed however see the need for Unemployment extensions…
… Congress needs to be held accountable for the their failure to create a jobs bill and a jobs market.
extending Unemployment is not the answer however it what is needed. the Answer is to create jobs, which will take Congress to place hire taxes on any company that out sources jobs over seas, higher taxes on any funds leaving the US and higher tariffs on imports.
Until then we have to pay out unemployment for the failure of our leaders.
Support unemployment here, it is one of Change.org highest all time petitions.
http://www.change.org/petitions/view/the_99ers_need_a_tier_v_added_to_unemployment_benefits
Gus
June 11th, 2010
11:34 am
John had no trouble with the tax credit for housing. He also had it extended.
Beeg Boi
June 11th, 2010
11:34 am
Dolt-you cannot interview for employment while you are working 40 hours per week to make ends meet. It is a life-line to people who need the assitance. You and your friend should are just two of “those” people who you all fear.Own up to it.
pcBobby
June 11th, 2010
11:35 am
To save even more dollars, let’s also deny benefits to retired Parkinson’s victims in Mississippi. Nah, that wouldn’t be FAIR. I’m sure Mr. Linder would say that this is just a bunch of Bullfeathers….
Tim
June 11th, 2010
11:38 am
Its easy to tell that Linder sure dont miss any meals !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That fat s.o.b. should be nade to sit at a table weith the kids that have only meager meals to eat, if they even have that. Also, his words”that some”, well ya fat retard, that does not mean all of us. Maybe you should miss a few meals and go on a diet, your jowls and fat gut are an embarrassment to America, it also shows why you FatCats in Washington like giving yourself pay raises while stealing from our parents on SS. May each and every one of you burn in hell, and before getting there, you feel the devasting emotional anquish of knowing your Govt tossed you aside to help foreignors.
You guys are dolts
June 11th, 2010
11:43 am
Beeg – I am just relating a true story. I own up to nothing. I dont really care about the issue- in fact I would say the program is worthwhile in spite of guys like my bud-
I am sure it is tough to work and conduct a job search at the same time.
John Linder, is in fact, a dolt.
That does not change the truth.
Keith
June 11th, 2010
11:48 am
It’s is a fact that most on unemployment who do get a job take a job the last 30-60 days of unemployment compensation eligibility. If you turn down any job you should be denied an unemployment benefit.
Beeg Boi
June 11th, 2010
11:55 am
Agreed YGAD. Linder should support those in the need and just forget scammers of the system. There will always be those people. It’s the cost of doing the business so-to-speak.
Yea right lol
June 11th, 2010
12:01 pm
Actually Linder is calling it like it is. Seems all of you think that most people make tons of money when a lot of people are in the 300 take home range per week. Its really not that they cant do better but in order to do better they need to finish highschool or go to college or trade school and they simply dont want to do that. So when you take taxes and gas out of their weekly paycheck, yes, they are getting a grand vacation at the tax payers expense. People, there are jobs out there, just not what your looking for. So they stay on the couch and wait while living off the taxpayers and collect food stamps. Yes, some of them actually are doing better then if they work.
miss marta
June 11th, 2010
12:07 pm
what an assclown. it is MEN of an advanced age who are most adversely effected by this recession. if they cannot afford a $10/hr job – because, ya know, they have things called MORTGAGES and FAMILIES – then these MEN have my blessing to stay on unemployment.
john linder literally opened his big fat mouth and showed how out of touch with main street amaerica he is. you think your job is safe john linder? because we’re coming for you next!
Beeg Boi
June 11th, 2010
12:10 pm
Yea- If people want to squander their lives for 300, so be it. Forget them. Take care of the people who have be ousted from their jobs and need the benefit. There will always be bums.
no job in fla
June 11th, 2010
12:20 pm
Hey stupid, i get $228 a week in unemployment. thats about $100 less than what i was taking home. food stamps? no kids, no wife. just ME. denied. they say i make too much. no food stamps. rent, car payment, insurance on car, food, and medicine…im diabetic….come to alot higher than $228 week. course i have no medical insurance, and im NOT paying income tax cause that would leave me what $200 week? im milking the system? im in a tourist town, and no tourist due to oil spill, plus the crappy economy. get a job? how about you come down here and show me hows its done? i dont even have gas money to go to interviews! gee, maybe you should pay for my college….going to college creates jobs right? idiots….you have a job, so your opinion really means nothing. i wish i knew who you really were, maybe i could talk your boss into giving me YOUR JOB. then we see who is “living on taxpayers and collect food stamps”.
Still Looking
June 11th, 2010
12:30 pm
Unemployment is NOT welfare, I actually had to work to earn the benefits that now barely pay my bills. I’m not on welfare, where one doesn’t even need to have worked in the past or plan on working in the future to get money to live on from the government. People on welfare have the most incentive to not go to work, not people on unemployment, but going after people on unemployment is easier because we are proven to be employable and willing to work but can’t find jobs. I know I can earn more than $300 a week and I’m trying hard to find that job. Most job postings out there are scams, schools trying to recruit students, or companies that list jobs but they aren’t ready to hire. If I could find a waitressing job, I would take it.
People capable of earning more than $300 a week would rather work.
Bobby
June 11th, 2010
12:38 pm
Yeah, my wife’s $300 a week unemployment check compared to the $1200 a week she earned at her last job is most certainly a HUGE incentive to stay out of work as long as possible… in fact I hope she never goes back to work …well just as long as big brother keeps the big bucks rolling for her of course!!!!
grizzybear
June 11th, 2010
12:48 pm
the companies pay into the unemployment fund, not employees. it should not be looked at as a entitlement, i say 6-12 months at the max for benefits, move to other states if you can for employment. get ready folks, congress has no money to give out! grab a job when you can!
Travis McGee
June 11th, 2010
12:50 pm
John Linder fed at the government trough for almost twenty year and walks away with an outstanding pension and healthcare benefits and has the audacity to begrudge the extension of unemployment benefits to those who are finding it difficult to find a job.
And, this ol’ boy loves the Lord and is a strong supporter of family values.
What a dang hypocrite!
Food For Thought
June 11th, 2010
12:58 pm
I think Mr. Linder may be on to something. Unemployment benefits keep getting extentions in Washington. There is a reason for that. By making formerly hard working people think that they are due these benefits, they will get used to having that amount of money, such that it is. This is an easy way to ensure that those people vote democrat forever, because after all they voted to keep the benefits coming. Complacancy sets in, the desire to get a job lessens, before long you have a huge majority of people who feel entitled to keep receiving unemployment benefits. With the incentive to work gone, the democrat party will have their constituency of the future. Look at the effect Lyndon Johnson and his great society theory has had on the minority population in this country right now.
Though I don’t always agree with John Linder, on this I’m afraid he’s right on the money.
mike
June 11th, 2010
1:03 pm
Well you folks voted Linder in year after year. What else did you think he was going to say or do? You have the opportunity to elect another dunce in Eric Johnson. I would not worry too much about the immigrants since they are slowly replacing those regular folks of Georgia.
Food For Thought
June 11th, 2010
1:08 pm
Mike, if it weren’t for the fact that we have democrats in control of both parties and the presidency, we would be better off. Eric Johnson is a big improvement over ANY democrat in the race. My guess is you’re a Roy Barnes kind of guy. Yeah, that’s surely what we need isn’t it, a former governor who screwed up royally coming back for a second chance to screw up all over again.
Really
June 11th, 2010
1:11 pm
At least Linder is doing the right thing – retiring. Deal should have done the same thing, then maybe his “ghetto grandmother” views wouldn’t have come out. People are sick of Washington politicians.
Travis McGee
June 11th, 2010
1:11 pm
The Republicans wring their hands of immigration reform when for six of the eight years Bush was in office they controlled both houses of congress and the White House. Heck, they could have built a mote across the entire southern United States if they had been so disposed.
But, they weren’t!
Now, that the Tea Party is exerting some influence, these panderers act like they want to protect America, but the Democrats won’t let them.
Horse hocky!
The Republicans want “cheap labor” and the Democrats want “the votes.”
DG
June 11th, 2010
1:13 pm
It is the system that is flawed. You can’t fix the problem by throwing money at it. I have been on unemployment a few times over past 20 or years, so I understand how a lot of people feel. It used to be that when you collected unemployment you had to submit a list companies that you submitted resumes to every week. They gave you a quota that you had to meet, among other requirements. Now you either go online or call in to a VRU and press a button stating you are actively looking for work. With no accountability. Companies should be getting tax incentives for hiring people out of the unemployment databases, and there needs to be an unemployment counselor program to review what the collectors of the benefits are doing once a month.
Wallis the dog
June 11th, 2010
1:36 pm
Linder makes a point based on basic laws of economics, and liberal readers seem upset. Of course he’s 100% correct. Subsidize anything and you will get more of it.
jr
June 11th, 2010
1:37 pm
Just remember, a vote for Rob Woodall would be just like voting for Linder again. Two peas in a pod. Nothing would change.
Outrage?
June 11th, 2010
2:04 pm
Where are the cries from Linder & the TEA party about the “Generational” welfare benefits being paid to those that choose not to work? I love when politicians complain about benefits that taxpayers receive when they have their own (GOOD) healthcare plans & live off of huge pensions when they retire.
Wha chu tawkn' bout
June 11th, 2010
2:06 pm
I’ze waitin’ fer da gubment to pays me respirations……. Barack done say he gone give us mo money ’cause we’z oppressed. I makes mo on da unemployment dan I did at da McDonalds.
Linder some cash?
June 11th, 2010
2:19 pm
Please tell me who can live on $300.00 a week? Am I missing something? That won’t even cover my payment on a house that has dropped in value like stock in a typewriter ribbon company.
buckshotannie
June 11th, 2010
2:22 pm
My husband would GLADLY give up his unemployment for a job. And he would gladly move to another state to find a job, but we care for my disabled sister and my elderly step-father. We can’t just pick up and move. Also, in this market, who is going to buy our house? Yes he could probably get a part time job flipping burgers but the unemployment comes with COBRA payments to help me keep him insured. Last time I checked, part time burger flippers didn’t have any paid insurance. He is out there every day applying for full time jobs where he can at least buy insurance. He’s in good health but he’s 53 and had a very minor heart attack (only 1 stent) a couple of years ago. And our wonderful Georgia government doesn’t want to take part in the part of the health reform act that would allow those with preexisting conditions to get insurance. John Linder and the rest of you ivory towered idiots, walk in my husband’s shoes just 48 hours and then get back to me about being unemployed.
Politico
June 11th, 2010
2:35 pm
I’ve voted against this moron for 16 years and he just keeps getting elected and goes right on spewing his elitist hate. I suspect he’s finally wising up that the demographics of his district are moving him towards unemployment. So he’s decided to pocket his campaign fund and head off to Mississippi to be around other fat retired Republicans. Good riddance, John Linder.
henry grady
June 11th, 2010
2:47 pm
It may shock some of you that people have done actual, fact-based research on this. There is pretty much consensus among economists that many on unemployment wait until the benefit is going to run out to go back to work. There is certainly debate over whether that incentive still exists in a recession where you have 10.5% unemployment and you can make the moral argument that we should provide these benefits longer…but denying that you are preventing some from going back to work by not setting an end date for the benefits is not based in economic reality.
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/17/do-jobless-benefits-discourage-people-from-finding-jobs/
Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis
June 11th, 2010
2:57 pm
Is Linder, from Minnesota, really moving to Mississippi? Must get tiresome being spat upon by Georgians getting wise to him around here. What a fraud! He was always such a phony. Recall his effeminate “Castillian Richmondese” he and Mike Bowers used to use…then “retrained” to a different fake accent when it was discovered they were just copying false-elite “limp wrists.”
Vietnam draft-dodger and false patriot he, and now America has to pay him a big check every month for his service to the Roman Anti-Christ destroying the Middle Class with the rest of the closet-queens, draft-dodgers and perverts of the Gay Old Pervert party?
Let him finally prove what a man he is: Give up your retirement, John, and work until you die, living the curse of Adam, like the rest of us, thief…traitor.
rmg
June 11th, 2010
3:12 pm
I would love to see this Linder guy be denied “retirement benefits” because of the depressed economy. Maybe then he would see the light. I guess the good news about his “opinion” is that he is retiring. The only course of action that people have for these “law makers” who are obviously so out of touch with the public’s problems is to vote them out. Good riddance!
T Knight
June 11th, 2010
4:24 pm
Why would anyone read the Huffigton Post and think they would right anything other than a left leaning liberally biased piece. Makes you wonder huh?
AtlantaJeff
June 11th, 2010
8:50 pm
It is very easy form John Linder to say these things – and easier for him to believe them. He alreaady has stolen his millions from whatever budgets – and tucked them into an off-shore numbered accounts (VERY easy to do)!!!! So of course he would think that giving ANYONE – a break during bad times would not be right!!! He’s got his – so he really does not care about anoone else – just keep his taces down!!!!!!!!
Is that a poll in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
June 11th, 2010
11:35 pm
The sidewalk in front of Bullfeathers is really going to miss his face-print.
Silent Jay
June 11th, 2010
11:38 pm
Was he in the car with Dale Cardwell?
Tim
June 12th, 2010
12:13 pm
ALL of you riders of the short bus, Listen up !! There are NOT ENOUGH jobs to employ everyone. So where the fk do we find work, its the same way in EVERY state. So what are we supposed to do to pay for things, like heat, food, fuel,internet access ?? We also still pay TAXES on each dollar of unemployment, so as such, we are still EQUAL to you. I bet most of these tards that say we are just sitting on our butts have never served 1 day in a combat zone in any military branch. Speaking of the Military..how many Troops have come home after 1-2-3 Tours of Duty and even THEY CANNOT GET JOB ???? When I was Honorably Discharged years ago, it took My resume approx 13 months to be noticed and I was offered a job. So I guess we should just show our thanks to those who Defended Our Freedoms and Our Very Lives by not giving them unemployment benefits ??
Used to be Disgusted
June 12th, 2010
2:30 pm
Plain talk: there is nothing more stupid and disgusting than a republican from Georgia. This used to be a good place to live, but no more.
FairlyOdd
June 12th, 2010
5:37 pm
Unemployment benefits too much an allure! Sort of like a prebate check would be? Right, John.
Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis
June 12th, 2010
6:08 pm
Hit it on the head, thanks. Linder wants the “FairTax” so the rich can pay less and the poor and low income can be under more control by the risen Babylon’s caesar we all came here to escape. The New Secular Order means nothing to him…and we all have to pay his cushy retirement for his work destroying the Republic.
FairlyOdd
June 12th, 2010
5:37 pm
Unemployment benefits too much an allure! Sort of like a prebate check would be? Right, John.
True American Voice
June 12th, 2010
8:59 pm
Keeps people from accepting job offers??? WTF? There are NO job offers. Hence the NEED for unemployment benefits. You mister Linder should be ashamed and thrown out of office. Lets take away your livelihood, or even half of it, for a week and you couldn’t survive. How dare you pass judgment on the millions of people who are out of work because of the economy. May God help you see the error of your ways.
True American Voice
June 12th, 2010
9:06 pm
Also, Unemployment is not WELFARE… the people receiving unemployment were formally employed and would like to be again. I cannot believe the absurdity of our government. Once upon a time it was a sacrifice by hardworking regular American people to work for the government which was a low paying zero respect job, but they did it because they wanted to better the country for themselves and future generations. Now that “Political Science” and “Government” can be studied and “Politician” is an actual career… people do not care about the people anymore. They want a high paying, tax funded job so they can sit on their asses and take vacations while millions of people have to wait on them to decide whether or not they will have a home next week or food for their children. It’s disgusting. I’m proud to be an American and I support our troops 100% and I am so grateful for all they do. However, our government needs a serious redo. Its sick and sad. Go back and read your history books folks! The politicians of yesteryear were farmers, soldiers, local business owners and they CARED about what happened to the average person because they WERE the average people. I bet Mr. Linder doesn’t know the price of gas, daycare, an electric bill OR a gallon of milk.
True American Voice
June 12th, 2010
9:11 pm
Also to clarify (and this is my last post on the matter)… I do know that LOTS of people depend on welfare and legitimately need it. Members of my family included such as my single brother and his children… but I also know that a lot of illegal immigrants benefit from our welfare system and have no intention of looking for jobs. So don’t compare the unemployed to the illegal welfare dependents. That is what I meant by that. To reiterate… unemployment is not welfare which Mr. Linder seems to think that is how we see it.
labor dept employee
June 13th, 2010
12:44 am
No, YOU, do not pay for unemployment insurance – your former employer does. That is one of the huge misconceptions. When people are denied unemployment and they say well I paid it in, they took it out of my check, I want my money. You didn’t pay it in – no unemployment insurance was taken out of your check. Depending on your separation, you may not be ENTITLED to it.
look out
June 13th, 2010
7:55 am
Well where is the real news media coverage telling the real truth about no real jobs and the millions of unemployed workers with no jobs and no real hope of finding a job and losing there unemployment benefits…. tell the real truth they wont and cant because their all controlled. But IM sorry to say there’s a real smoke screen now which I hope gets stopped very soon and its real oil. But what about the real American people without jobs and losing everything without unemployment benefits to help put the food on the table and roof over our heads please help the American people without jobs like myself lets get the ball rolling lets stop money power and greed stand with me and fight to the end because I see a uprising like never before coming and it will be unstoppable like the domino effect one by one they will fall. I would say 99. Something percent all want to work. But look at the people with all there great jobs in government living fat even in every little town feel lucky now don’t let the animals into the streets to make fight and beg for dignity I see the real wolfs beware big packs. TELL THE REAL STORY AND THE REAL TRUTH!!! 584
• well just ask you this big question? Where did the MONEY GO and who got the big bonuses we don’t even know about not to count the ones that we do.780 billion and then 870 billion give or take a few billion
.I think they named it wrong it’s not bailout it was handout and that’s not what the American people are asking for is handout may be a hand up. And that’s what exactly what they deserve is what was paid in, in ones name under their SSN, for some as much as 30 to 40 years or more, and never collected a dime, and you can ask yourself the same question? Again where did the money go?
I guess when someone steels something they don’t want you to know who they are and for sure don’t ever plan on given it back even if they get caught. Ask yourself where are these crooks are they so hard to find because there right under our noses and I’m talking the handout bailout. And we ask this question? Does The Government Owe Unemployed Workers? ”
I would say about 99. Something percent, all want to work and to find a job. But they just aren’t there and lost their job at no fault of their own. I bet that if any body would like to give up there job and change places with one of the unemployed workers. You won’t see anybody.
The people with jobs beware you to could become one with out one. It’s easy to think and say things about people, but maybe if you go yourself, you will have a better insight to reality.
For all of you with good secure jobs with big mouths, I would invite you to come join us and see how you will feel or just live in one of the millions of unemployed people’s shoes. Because nothing is for sure accept you know the inevitable. So I would be warned to you not to curse yourself, and go spend your money, and help out the economy, and just feel lucky, you will think genius.
Ask yourself were did the money go bailouts, banks rip-offs; maid off is a small pimple on a frogs ass on a big log in a big lake, the smoke screen has cleared, we can all see now the buyoffs, payoffs the top regulators, CEO’S, de regulators, speculators, Greedy at the top present created this great problem, find them tract them hunt them down make them give back the money and we wont be worried about another little extension But you have to start at the top. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE AMERICIAN PEOPLE WITHOUT JOBS, GIVE US JOBS AND WE WILL WORK LIKE NEVER BEFORE! We shouldn’t be worried about getting help and who is really in control, ask yourself were did money go, and where is it really going. We all know it’s not hard to figure out, it’s the wealthiest,
Greediest few, and to bad this saying still is true, the man or men with gold make the rules, or maybe that was OIL! “But the power is still with the people” we want our money back the FEW stole it from us, it didn’t just disappear it’s somewhere in the world, and they’re ha ha laughing all the way to banks!
Watch out for the weasels that have turned into moles.
I have one big question what is the FAIR TRADE ACT, and who is it really fair for, but most of really know and the ones that don’t know need to. IT IS FOR THE WEALTHEST FEW, and boy where they really happy, and it is great for them, but I think they got the name wrong, It should be called the UNFAIR TRADE ACT and that is exactly what it is for the MANY Americans with no jobs. There’s your manufacturing jobs its really quite simple but ahhhh, let me think what should we do to get them back well how about nothing, but we’ve already done that. How about let’s try something new and what could that be!
What about that great tax reform of 1986 which gave the biggest tax breaks? To the wealthiest few, and then started taxing unemployment benefits who are mostly the many, at the bottom of tax earners. Which is still in effect today, the first 2400 dollars off the top for 2009 what a joke? How about that tax break back for when you’re down even that would help WE THE PEOPLE
Now with construction and housing failed, America’s real backbone we want our money back the FEW stole it from us, it didn’t just disappear its somewhere in the world and they’re ha ha laughing all the way to banks
Or maybe let me think how about GOLD let’s acquire as much as we can, have you ever wondered why they want your unwanted gold, just ponder that idea for one moment.
Well everybody knows that it’s what we think is worth the most in value as were concerned, as we know it, but what real good is it really, bling, bling. I guess you could stamp in god we trust on the bars and then what eat it. Follow the gold maybe with a big metal detector from space. It’s never left the planet yet, and has been causing problems ever since it was found thousands of years ago, and don’t forget GREED to the equation.
I have another great idea how about creating some real jobs in our own country, instead of selling and giving away our jobs to foreign lands abroad for the few rich to get richer and selling out our own people, of this great land.
If all of the special interest groups, lobbyists, greedy people in this world didn’t get bills and laws passed for themselves to proliferate our government we wouldn’t have all these problems like we have today. Maybe we all don’t know that since the beginning of time, as we know it. Money, power and greed have brought down the most powerful and strongest of nations of this world. Like the squirrels how money nuts do you need to hide, so let’s find the stolen nuts and share with the rest of animals in the forest. I think its time for we the people to awaken and take back this great country that are forefathers founded so many moons ago.
One little simple gesture, one wink of an eye, one stroke of a pen, one slight nod that’s all it will take to help out the millions of Americans. That’s all it would take from the wealthiest 3% that control our government. And I know nobody usually works for the poor. Let’s get the ball rolling again without the big balloons we all learn from our mistakes. Nobody should be above the law
I have no problem with humanity and helping out the rest of the world. I do have a problem with deceit and lies to what’s really going on, the American people are mushrooms kept in the dark with only one media that control our senses and the biggest heists in recorded times has just happened!
There are enough drops in the big bucket to go around, nobody wants to talk about all of eastern Europeans that just came to this country in the last few years and get everything for free, money, houses, food, no taxes for 5 years, $150.000 dollar vouchers from department of agriculture for homes that if long as they don’t default or sell their home for 10 years the money is free. Here’s one of the best ones here’s a real good one $ 45.000 dollars free for some, right when they enter the country this all true, and take your jobs. The jobs that aren’t there! I dare you if you can, to do your investigative research, it shouldn’t be real hard to find out. I think you should start with the loop holes refugee status or the churches, that should get you started. And the list is so long to really list, but some of you are worried about the Mexicans and they where already here and I guarantee they don’t get anything. You would be amassed what the Russians and many other groups, get from their far away land when they set foot in America. They don’t want to talk about this tax burden on the taxpayers I know we are the “quote” “the melting pot”, but lets get real why should one group or groups get things that others do not get isn’t this land supposed to be the land of equal opportunity without discrimination, we all know our past witch wasn’t good, shouldn’t we have learned from our mistakes. Let’s TELL THE REAL TRUTH I dare 20/20, 60 minutes CNN or any other news group to follow the real story, it will never happen. Let’s put the real truth on the table, tell the real story, it won’t happen because you are all controlled just like all of us and you will think genius, but what about,
“WE THE PEOPLE”
The people with jobs beware you to could become one with out one. It’s easy to think and say things about people, but maybe if you go yourself, you will have a better insight to reality.
Look at the controlled media saying more jobs have been created and unemployment is at 9, 7 who are they really trying to fool well we all know it’s the American public. When we know when we count every body that doesn’t have a job it would be about 17.5 it all sounds good but its not reality. And their all looking for a job if it true shows us exactly where these jobs are even if it were true it wouldn’t go far with the15 to 18 million or more people without jobs. Just more media hype does even the media believe the propaganda. Their so post to report but who pays there paychecks, and who are they owned by its kind of like the good old boys once you are one you look and see nothing and look the other way because you don’t want to jeopardize your livelihood. As long as you’re doing well, just another way of trying to hide the big mistakes made on Wall Street and the banks with the government the buyoffs, payoffs the top regulators CEO’S de regulators, speculators and they don’t want to accept or admit the real truth. Don’t even mention the bailouts!
This will all be at to burn the bridge before you can cross it so to speak, before the big Unemployed Workers uprising in this great country because they foresee it coming, and they have time and money to try to stop it, but they won’t be able to deny it when where all on the streets in major protest and in there front yards and backyards with tents. I think nobody wants a handout but maybe a hand up. I still see a lot of pot holes out their lets all fix them. propaganda for the next election in November. I wonder if they think that those 18 million will make a difference in the election if the let them starve and out in streets not to happy to be understated. But my prediction is they will push for Wall Street hand outs and put the American people with no jobs on the back burner
RP
June 13th, 2010
10:18 am
Good lord, what are some people thinking?
You can’t move to another state to get work if you are upside down on your mortgage!!
If everyone was a college grad that wouldn’t equal more jobs! If you haven’t noticed, blue collar AND white collar jobs have been outsourced! Not everyone in society has the ability or college funds to be a geneticist.
So much judgement! I hope the air doesn’t stink up on that high horse.
Ole Guy
June 14th, 2010
5:06 am
When are we going to stop putting these people in office so they can pretend to be concerned for the peoples’ welfare, suck in a pretty damn good salary/benefit program funded by the very people they turn around and insult the hell out of? And then, like morons, we pay hommage to these people by re-electing them.
Unfortunately, people, we deserve just what we get. This little gem, eminating from one idiot politician, pretty much typifies the whole damn lot…WAY WAY WAY OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY.
Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis
June 14th, 2010
8:22 am
You’re right. Linder is the worst of us. Went to dental school to dodge Vietnam. Born and raised in Minnesota, home of the great American patriot Jesse Ventura, Linder came South to Georgia in pursuit of Mammon, not G-d like so many millions of others, “lost” his Meeneesota accent to “acquire” the speech of the “Castilian Richmondese” as if only the Ephraimites at the Brook Kidron and the Bourbon Court in Spain were cultures whose decadence and perversion showed up in their effeminate tongue. Then when he was mocked on talk radio he flipped around and came up with a new voice, Presto. He is no man and no American, having conned the People serving fascist plutocracy in The Best Government Money Can Buy.
Money Rules
June 14th, 2010
10:42 am
The government politicians need to cut off the flow of funds for all these deadbeats who don’t want to work. Giving unemployment for years makes the citizenry lazy and unproductive. Make them work at governmental agencies to get cash and they can fire all the lazy workers at these agencies right now, saving millions!
RP
June 14th, 2010
7:03 pm
Money Rules … what an ignorant boy you are.
Cutting Unemployment Insurance does not magically make jobs appear!! If there are 5 job seekers per opening, well, do the math if you can.
Years of offshoring jobs, and now people want to tsk tsk the unemployed for being “lazy”
Money, you must be a fabulous human being.
Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis
June 14th, 2010
8:41 pm
RP – They’re off-shoring jobs and industry to increase the spiraling concentration of wealth for the false elite fraction of a percent, who hired Linder, as an act of economic treason in direct opposition to America’s Creed’s E Pluribus Unum. That’s why they had him pursue the “FairTax” fraud: to help the rich.
It’s a “Shoot the Moon” gambit and the Working/Middle Class is the “stopper” the Roman Anti-Christ needs to destroy to restore the Old Sectarian Order to power.
This is what a prophet of the Creator, G-d of the universe, had to say about it, “look to a single and splendid government of an aristocracy, founded on banking institutions, and moneyed incorporations under the guise and cloak of their favored branches of manufactures, commerce and navigation, riding and ruling over the plundered ploughman and beggared yeomanry. This will be to them a next best blessing to the monarchy of their first aim, and perhaps the surest stepping-stone to it.”
Thomas Jefferson – America’s Author, Founder, and Prophet
Georgians, at least, would do well to pay attention. G-d will bless America through this Greatest State if we recognize and purge the evil upon us Linder has been assisting in Washington. It speaks well of Georgia that he is moving “downhill” to Mississippi, where the vestiges of de facto racism and oppression will make him more “at home.”
Eileen
June 15th, 2010
6:01 pm
Question to Mr. Linder: Are you or any of your political buddy’s hiring? I’m available and so are over 12% of people in Ca. I worked all my life and now have nothing, I will lose my apartment and have to live in my car.
Guess who is voting this year, oh yeah I can’t I won’t have an address. But you don’t care your retiring….
True American Voice
June 16th, 2010
4:08 pm
I agree RP.
True American Voice
June 16th, 2010
4:09 pm
Props to Eileen. Well said.
M.Dennis
June 25th, 2010
11:27 pm
Im sure there are alot of Peolpe on Unemployment Benefits that are abusing it, but Im sure there are alot More that needs it. I’ve was on my job for 10 years & was laid off 6months ago & now I cant find a job nor can I get Unemployment. I was told that I exhausted my benefits…WTH! Mr. Linder, I Hope You & The Rest of those GREEDY, Blood Sucking Senators get Voted out of Office!