Isakson, Chambliss want 6,000 border troops — not 1,200

A National Guard unit patrols at the Arizona-Mexico border in Sasabe, Ariz., in 2007. Associated Press

A National Guard unit patrols at the Arizona-Mexico border in Sasabe, Ariz., in 2007. Associated Press

Immigration reform appears to have the same political dynamics as a tax cut.

The competition always demands something a little bit larger.

You know about President Barack Obama’s plan to send as many as 1,200 National Guard troops back to the U.S.-Mexico border to battle illegal immigration and drug smuggling.

This morning, U.S. Sens. Johnny Isakson and Saxby Chambliss announced they would co-sponsor an amendment to a supplemental spending bill to fund 6,000 National Guard troops for the Southwest.

Obama’s opening bid of 1,200 is too paltry in light of escalating violence, the pair say.

“The defense of our nation begins with securing our borders,” said Isakson, up for re-election this year. “It is time for Congress to demonstrate a strong commitment to border security. It is the only way we will be able to combat illegal immigration, drug and alien smuggling and violent activity along the Southwest border.”

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108 comments Add your comment

deegee

May 26th, 2010
1:06 pm

I wish Isakson and Chambliss would do something about cleaning up the dope-infested towns and suburbs of Georgia. I would rather see the National Guard performing routine drug tests of the recipients of Social Security disability, WIC, and Medicaid. That would go a long way toward curbing the demand for drugs. Parents should be drug testing their children on a regular basis. You could shut down the southern border completely and the dope will keep coming as long as people keep buying it.

East Lake Ira

May 26th, 2010
1:10 pm

Saxby and Johnny – STFU.

Thanks.

lmno

May 26th, 2010
1:26 pm

Make an easy and legal way for Mexicans to come here, work and pay taxes, AND end prohibition of marijuana, and then all of these problems will vanish. PLUS, we will have more tax revenue.

Never Enough

May 26th, 2010
1:57 pm

And if Obama had sent 6,000, they would say 10,000 troops are necessary. If Obama had said 10,000, they would argue for 15,000.

deegee

May 26th, 2010
2:14 pm

Why is there so much venom for the illegal immigrant from Guatemala and nothing is said about all of the legal immigrants from India? While everyone is screaming about little Latinos busting their azzes for $8.00 an hour in hot, dirty work environments, who is making any noise about the Indian immigrants that are working in nice, air conditioned cubicles pulling in $60K plus per year? They can come here legally and take jobs that Americans might actually like to have, but hispanic chicken pluckers that can’t come here legally are derided for taking jobs away from Americans. What is up with that? And don’t give me a lot of bull about how the educated immigrant assimilates and speaks English everywhere. I have been to the Windward Parkway Costco on Friday night.

Uncle Boris

May 26th, 2010
2:24 pm

You can be as contrary as you like…the fact remains that our southern border is like a drain without a plug.

GW

May 26th, 2010
2:36 pm

Funny, they did not make the same demands when Bush was in office.

JeffyW

May 26th, 2010
2:38 pm

The president wanted to send 6000, but the troops he promised to bring home as soon as he was elected are still in Iraq. Plus all his boyz in da hood back in Chi town like Mexican dope.

GRPR

May 26th, 2010
2:39 pm

I am with Imno, make the process of coming legal easier and less red tape along with legalizing marijuana would make these problems go away…Isakson and Chambliss will never be satisfy with what Obama does, to them the glass will always be half empty….like their heads.

ION

May 26th, 2010
2:40 pm

We need to do something about the border there are to many coming over…I am tired of waiting in the
long lines in kroger while they use WIC and FOODSTAMP … I AM VERY UPSET THAT MY CHILD NEEDS TO LEARN THERE LANGAUGE IN SCHOOL…First of all they need to learn to speak ENGLISH…I did not come in this world speaking there Langauge… And I will leave this world not speaking it….

Jon

May 26th, 2010
2:43 pm

@deegee: My god you must be retarded. So you have a problem with those who come here legally, work hard, pay taxes (unlike the illegals) and contribute to make the overall American economy stronger? Chances are that an Indian immigrant was involved in designing products like the ipad which generate billions in profits (and jobs) for AMERICAN companies like Apple. Sounds like you don’t want to have to work hard to get that 60k job because you were born here?! Makes perfect sense you a**hat! Surely you understand how this capitalism deal works, survival of the fittest and all that.

Jon

May 26th, 2010
2:45 pm

@ION – How about you learn the English language before you worry about the immigrants learning it?

"and I think to myself...what a wonderfult world"

May 26th, 2010
2:46 pm

It appears that politics, government, etc. are much like family. There’s always a pending issue resenating within the minds of each. With no regard to the “good will” of any one person within the unit, another will continously seek a derogatory glitch. This is done only to put one in a position of power to which they will become the recipient of the same malicious judgements. Sure we should bring our minds together to discuss moving forward and upward, but there always seem to be walls of malice, hatred, jealousy, envy etc…Does anyone agree? I mean, without the balance of sincere understanding, aren’t our just arguments and debates for nought?

I like sports, and it seems that the most valuable of athletes are those who carry not just skill alone (I mean, all of em’ have some sort of skill or they wouldn’t be playing professionally, right?) but possess what’s intangibles. The things that are hidden from the human eye, but seen through the mental eye. The things that only we can take responsibility for…

redneckbluedog

May 26th, 2010
2:48 pm

Troops cost money…do you want to decrease spending or not…..?

deegee

May 26th, 2010
2:49 pm

Hello ION, why don’t you lose the “all caps” and take some English lessons? Look up the meaning of the word homophone. It isn’t sexual. It will help you avoid making embarrassing mistakes with the written English language.

conservativewin2010

May 26th, 2010
2:51 pm

hey deegee you are not to bright where do u think the drugs are coming in at??? Get a life, put 18k troops down there and seal it off right.. Then fix it so there is a system for employers to check and see if the people are here legally, if they can’t get a job they might go home. That would leave the jobs open for Americans and legal immigrants…
Don’t give me this crap about Americans won’t do these jobs. In Arizona and other places where they are driving these criminals immigrants out Americans are snapping those jobs up like crazy… Sides that the pay would go way up for these jobs if you get rid of all these people doing them for a pittance…
While we are at it lets vote Obama out in 2012 and the rest of his loony tunes out in 2010 and bring America back to the worlds leading economy and keep it the worlds #1 military power, instead of trying to make it the great socialist utopia like Europe… Wait a minute though European Socialism is collapsing just like the USSR…. HUUUUUMMMM….

ION

May 26th, 2010
2:52 pm

@JON THE TRUTH HURTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

STOP

May 26th, 2010
2:53 pm

I agree with you Never Enough. Chambless and Isakson if you can come up with a way to place these 6000 troops on the border without adding more strain to our military families (my husband has been home a total of 5 months in 2009 and 2010)then I am with you. But until then stop just spouting off for the sake of partisan politics.

Truth

May 26th, 2010
2:53 pm

Homophone…is that two phones in love with each other?

deegee

May 26th, 2010
2:56 pm

Hello Jon, I am a champion of immigration. I feel that immigrant workers contribute greatly to our culture. I am opposed to outdated and unrealistic immigration statutes. I find fault with an immigration system that does not allow low skilled and unskilled laborers to emigrate and become permanent residents and ultimately citizens of the US when it is obvious to all that they are working in jobs that Americans do not want. I find fault with an immigration system that allows tens of thousands of Asian workers to emigrate to the US and take jobs that American workers would like to have.

ROD

May 26th, 2010
2:57 pm

ION – Please learn the difference between “their” and “there”

jonnycash

May 26th, 2010
2:57 pm

Okay Shambles and Irksome. Let’s take some of the troops your cowboy pres sent to Iraq and move them to the border.

Rude

May 26th, 2010
2:57 pm

Take the BLACK MARKET out of the equation i.e. legalize, and the violence goes away!

deegee

May 26th, 2010
3:00 pm

Hello Conservativewin2010. Your English language skills could use some help, too. Where do you think the drugs are being consumed?

Americans will snap up a low skilled, unskilled job and work it for a couple of weeks or until they get their first paycheck. Then they quit and go back to selling drugs out of their trailer.

Bo

May 26th, 2010
3:03 pm

We need to add more troops that no. requested by our senators. Withdraw troops from NATO in Europe. We can use them better guarding our border. The Europeans can afford their own defense now. I don’t the Russians will want to venture beyond Poland or Rumania. They have too many internal problems within their own empire. Close those bases down and send the troops to guard our borders. That is more important now!

Tiffany

May 26th, 2010
3:03 pm

@deegee… I thought I was the only one that feels like Alpharetta is India. They are on their game because they come, the wife is typically pregnant on the plane trip here, and their child is born American and they are allowed to stay. They arrive on 6 month assignments from AT&T and Verizon, and their plan to stay begins. When you see them in your company if its a large one, start looking for work because TATA Industries(Range Rover, etc), owns and operates the call centers in India. So they sometimes train here, go back home, and train there in preparation for a layoff.

AC

May 26th, 2010
3:05 pm

Enter your comments here

roadrunner

May 26th, 2010
3:07 pm

What happened to Saxby, 2 years ago I though he was having a love fest with them and Lindsy Graham, maybe he decided he did not want to pick Vidilia onions with them

Riddle Me This

May 26th, 2010
3:07 pm

We should build more schools in Mexico which obviously loves US. Versus anywhere in the Middle East that clearly hates US. Train them to be call center reps and such. We are the first to send aid far away, but as witnessed in Katrina have no mechanisms to receive aid close to home.

The U.S. should be recognized as facilitators versus hypocritical dictators.

I’m just sayin….

Jozef

May 26th, 2010
3:09 pm

Why does anyone still take those two jokers seriously?

AC

May 26th, 2010
3:10 pm

I believe the word is “illegal”. If things we do are illegal we are charged with a crime. If anyone wants to come into this country do it legally…I have no problem with legal. If we as americans live by our laws then by all means require illegals to become citizens and live by the law. Until then we should protect our borders.

Andy in Blairsville

May 26th, 2010
3:15 pm

It doesn’t matter if Obama sends 20,000 troops because this nothing but a dog and pony show so he pound his chest, pat his back then while reading off the teleprompters and talking to us in the 3rd person: You wanted Obama to send in troops to secure our border, so Obama sent troops to secure our border. Congress must act and pass a comprehensive immigration reform bill and I expect it on my desk before August recess.

I can’t believe how many idiots voted for this clueless community organizer.

Sandra

May 26th, 2010
3:17 pm

To STOP, I dont think your husband was drafted so he joined the military freely. So now that he actually has a committment to what he raised his hand to defend, your getting upset? Its ok for your husband to reap the benefits of being military when things are good, but heaven forbid he actually be put to work? You just need to get out then.

The biggest worry we have are our military boarders and terriorism. They are coming across the boarders at a high rate and not all of them are mexican. One more thing, this is America not Mexico. I am not against immigration, I am however against people coming to this country by breaking the law, then letting our taxpayers fund their every whim. And there are many many companys that hire illegals that pay a very good wage. They just dont pay them taxes so they dont have to claim it. I work in a drugstore and I can tell you that the large population do not make that 8 dollars per hour that some of you claim. If they did then they would not have that large wad of $100 dollar bills that continue to drop from their wallets. Grow up, get the facts and until you have them just keep your mouth shut.

Alpharetta Dave

May 26th, 2010
3:23 pm

Every civilized country in the world secures their border except the U.S.A. This is ludicrous! National security depends on secure borders. It’s not only Mexicans that are coming here uninvited. We must identify who’s here and what their purpose is for being here, This doesn’t have to mean instant deportation for all illegals but certainly it should for criminals and those that would do us harm. We need to : 1. Do whatever it takes to secure our borders and stop the problems that we’re presently experiencing 2. All persons in the country who are legally contributing need to be issued a tamper proof visa or work permit for a specified period of time after which they are required to leave or perhaps reapply 3. Employers who do not require workers to have legal documentation should receive heavy fines 4. Round up all criminals or those who are not working, excluding families, and deport them. 5. All who wish to come to our country must apply legally. 6. Those who wish to become citizens must apply for citizenship the right way. There you have it – a comprehensive immigration plan. All those who would disagree just need to spend some time in Arizona, South Texas or Southern California. Most Americans are not anti Mexican. We remember the lessons of 9/11. We are tired of the crime. We are disgusted with our politicians. We are sick of paying for the cost of illegal immigrants for the education, medical and criminal justice. We are fed up with being criticized by others for demanding that the rights of our own citizens take priority over non citizens. We just want security and fairness. Many Americans paid a price for our freedom and citizenship and we don’t think that it should be given away so cheaply.

Gram

May 26th, 2010
3:25 pm

Boy, you can sure tell which comments are made by immigrants. It’s not just the drugs…it’s national security. Many terrorists are also slipping across our southern border…it’s long overdue to have that border secured. Unless you are an illegal, you have NO gripes with securing the border.

Gram

May 26th, 2010
3:28 pm

P.S. ALL states need to follow Arizona’s lead when it comes to illegals…and watch how fast all the illegals head home.

Jim

May 26th, 2010
3:29 pm

Our Government is out of control with it would be a good Idea to, in this case troops to the border, and paying for the ideas. I think it would be a good idea to put a fence up around my house, hire security guards, and put bullet proof glass on my house, but I can’t pay for any of it so I won’t. Our government just keeps on coming up with so many good ideas, but they all don’t do anything to get us out of debt. Start running the government like we do our own homes, that goes for South Korea, let them fight their own fight!

STOP

May 26th, 2010
3:29 pm

Sandra
When my husband is home he often works 12 hour days and when gone, he works 10 – 12 hour days with no days off. Do you work that much? I doubt it. And I assure you the “benefits” you allude to are not worth it. That is why he and many of those he knows feel beaten down and exhausted and are getting out.

Aaron Burr V. Mexico

May 26th, 2010
3:34 pm

Yeah. You sure can tell which statements are made by illegals. Like this one.

GRAM YOU ARE A MORON!

Thus logically I must be an illegal alien.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIOoHblfeOk&feature=player_embedded

Round up citizens and lock them away until the Law is done with them…sounds like Tea Party/Republican thinking and even though its not Libertarian behavior, the Libertarians are sleeping in bed with Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin so it sounds to me like they think its aok too.

Which means since you think its ok to do this to citizens sounds like liberal jurisdictions should lock up Republicans and throw away the key.

deegee

May 26th, 2010
3:35 pm

Gram, do you really think that terrorists are risking their lives in the desert in order to break across the southern border? They buy plane tickets, Gram, and they come here with Visas.

Jim

May 26th, 2010
3:36 pm

Oh yea, I am a White Navy Veteran, I served 6 years, Honorable discharge, I support getting the illegals a path to being legal. White people stole this place from the indians, killed and tortured indians, remember this as you Dave A, it is a land for all, not just white republicans. Don’t talk about sacrafice unless you gave up part of your life defending this great country.

Righteousness vs. justice

May 26th, 2010
3:40 pm

It is very sad to watch conservative followers, forgetting that USA is a CAPITALIST country (Demand and Supply). “It is a lot of demand for illegal drugs everywhere…”
Conservatives had the country’s control for eight years when Katrina happened, when predatory lending was filling up somebody’s bank account, and when our #1 military power families starting having the dysfunctional issues they have today.

Very respectfully to conservativewin2010. What conservatives feel when going to church, but mistreating your illegal neighbors, or when middle class women cannot stay with their newborn babies because they cannot afford it? (that happens in Socialist Finland or Norway) But anyway, God still loves EVERYBODY right? Just like Conservatives do…

deegee

May 26th, 2010
3:45 pm

Sandra, seriously?

I work in a drugstore and I can tell you that the large population do not make that 8 dollars per hour that some of you claim. If they did then they would not have that large wad of $100 dollar bills that continue to drop from their wallets. Grow up, get the facts and until you have them just keep your mouth shut.

Aquagirl

May 26th, 2010
3:47 pm

Sandra, STFU. Our military is not an endless supply of cheap labor to clean up our messes. Join the Minutemen if YOU want to shoot it out with coyotes and drug dealers.

tc

May 26th, 2010
3:50 pm

wonder if chicken hawk chamblis has any immediate kinfolk in the armed forces?

Gram

May 26th, 2010
3:51 pm

I see I rattled a few illegal chains in here. If you think terrorists don’t come across the Mexican border, then YOU are the idiot.

Jon but not Jon Voight

May 26th, 2010
3:51 pm

I thought all these National Guard troops were in Afghanistan!

Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot

May 26th, 2010
3:54 pm

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Matt

May 26th, 2010
3:57 pm

Degree. Please stop and think about things before you post. Yes there is a huge Indian population but 95% are extremely well eductaed and they pay taxes. They have to b/c 1. They open businesses so they must be legal. 2. They are highly trained and work their butts off. 3. They bring better jobs and more tax revenue to an area b/c of their expertise in technology and medicine. See in India it is very different then here. They actually value competition and use it in every capacity. There are over 1 billion folks in India so to get a job is very tough. They compete endlessly in the classroom, college level, masters and Phd while a lot of lazy Americans sit on their rear and watch tv all day when they could be productive and do somehting.

Gram

May 26th, 2010
3:57 pm