Nathan Deal says he’d implement Arizona-style immigration laws
Arizona just took its place in the Georgia race for governor. This from a press release issued by the Republican campaign of Nathan Deal, the former congressman:
“I agree with the Arizona governor and Legislature that the federal government has failed miserably at protecting our borders and enacting sensible solutions that would protect our states, counties and cities from bearing the enormous costs associated with illegal immigration, from emergency room visits to public schools to the criminal justice system,” said Nathan Deal. “As governor of Georgia, I’d work to pass and sign similar legislation.”
The necessary background from the Associated Press:
Under the new Arizona law, immigrants unable to produce documents showing they are allowed to be in the U.S. could be arrested, jailed for up to six months and fined $2,500. That is a significant escalation of the typical federal punishment for being here illegally — deportation.
People arrested by Arizona police would be turned over to federal immigration officers. Opponents said the federal government could thwart the law by refusing to accept them.
Supporters of the law said it is necessary to protect Arizonans.The state is home to an estimated 460,000 illegal immigrants and is the nation’s busiest gateway for people slipping into the country. [Arizona Gov. Jan] Brewer has ordered state officials to develop a training course for officers to learn what constitutes reasonable suspicion that someone is in the U.S. illegally.
More from Deal:
“It’s perfectly appropriate for state laws to complement federal laws. States are within their 10th Amendment powers to draft laws that deal with a huge, dangerous problem.
“States along the southern border have faced war-like conditions triggered by the violence of drug cartels,” Deal continued. “What we’ve seen historically in Georgia is that problems trickling over the border eventually flood over the border and strongly affect our state.”
Don’t be surprised if other Republicans quickly join in.
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Bill
April 28th, 2010
7:55 am
My family came here illegally. We were just looking for economic opportunity and this seemed like the best bet. Of course the journey was a dangerous one and not everyone made it, but it was worth the risk. We moved around a lot, but eventually got settled. The locals were OK at first, but it was not long before they tried to run us off. At times they even got violent. But, we overwhelmed them with our sheer numbers. That was 1635.
Stand Watie
April 28th, 2010
7:57 am
Deal is right………apparently he is one of the few politicians who have read the 10th Amendment.
A Realist
April 28th, 2010
7:59 am
You know, If Mr. Deal actually means what he says and is not trying to just get my vote (like our glorious president) I’d vote for him in a minute; however, he’s got to do something to let me know that…..how ’bout it, Mr. Deal? Are you up to the challenge?
Bill
April 28th, 2010
8:01 am
Stand -
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people”
Sorry, but foreign affairs and protection of our borders are delegated by the constitution to the federal government. If you (or Arizona) do not like the way it is being done, Washington is the place to change it.
Bill
April 28th, 2010
8:04 am
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”
That is the fourth amendment. Notice that it says “persons”, not citizens.
Bill
April 28th, 2010
8:07 am
The fourteenth amendment reads in part:
“No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
Again, note that it says “persons”, not citizens.
I thought republicans were for a strict literal interpretation of the constitution.
What Constitution?
April 28th, 2010
8:15 am
Looks like Arizona has expanded arrests for DWB (driving while black) to include brown.
Mr. Cool
April 28th, 2010
8:27 am
Be Fair! Pass and enforce a law on the businesses who hires our visitors. If our visitors can’t get work I bet they leave. Let see the State of Georgia act on this issue and stop victimizing PEOPLE. Officials continue to look the other way as these businesses and these business CEOs break the LAW.
Morrus
April 28th, 2010
8:27 am
Vote out the incumbents and start over
OneFreeMan
April 28th, 2010
8:29 am
In a down economy you got be creative, I’m thinking of selling a “Look American Kit”, (Blonde hair color and blue contacts).
Wouldn’t work for me, but might help those being targetted.
georgiadawgg
April 28th, 2010
8:32 am
ken fuller you suuuuuuuuck.
lmno
April 28th, 2010
8:40 am
What is missing from all of the immigration debates has been an explanation of the legal process of immigration.
Its almost completely uncommunicated. People shout, “We don’t dislike immigration! We dislike ILLEGAL immigration!” However, that is never followed by an explanation of what the legal process is.
Perhaps we should take a look at that process and find out why so many are avoiding it. Maybe we would find that the process is slow and out of date. Maybe we would find that by changing that process, more people would go through the legal means.
What I am trying to write is, maybe its too hard to become a legal immigrant.
I think we should at least explore that avenue.
el
April 28th, 2010
8:58 am
“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
(Inscription on the Statue of Liberty)
.
The Snark
April 28th, 2010
9:26 am
The Snark is in favor of strict immigration control, starting with armed guards, searchlights and machine gun towers along every inch of Georgia’s border with Mexico.
twinkletoes
April 28th, 2010
9:52 am
Nathan Deal. The man who was elected as a Democrat and promptly switched parties as soon as he was sworn in. So! Do all of you think he is truly to be trusted? Methinks he’s better described as a turncoat!
deegee
April 28th, 2010
9:54 am
Sure, African-American. Arizona republicans really hold you in high esteem.
Sen. John McCain (Republican of Arizona) voted against the creation of the MLK holiday, and later defended Arizona Republican Governor Evan Mecham’s rescission of the state holiday in honor of King created by his Democratic predecessor. After his opposition grew increasingly untenable, McCain reversed his position, and encouraged his home state of Arizona to recognize the holiday despite opposition from Mecham.
In 1990, Arizonans were given the opportunity to vote to observe an MLK holiday. McCain successfully appealed to former President Ronald Reagan to support the holiday. Following the failure of the 1990 proposition to recognize the holiday in Arizona, the National Football League moved Super Bowl XXVII from Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe to the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, California. That occurrence is was what ultimately turned Arizonans in favor of observing the MLK holiday.
lmno
April 28th, 2010
9:58 am
Say I am a 20 year old High School graduate from Mexico. I have experience in construction. I would like to come to the USA and work and attend college. I already have a commitment from an employer. I am willing to pay income tax to the US. My intention is to stay about 5 years.
What is the legal process for me to do this? Can I do this legally? How long will it take?
mum
April 28th, 2010
10:00 am
Be careful what you wish for and allowing some in government to do, because once you start down the road, it will eventually come around to you. You all need to go back and read about how Nazi Germany started out, which ultimately started them on the road to killing off anyone who was different, and not blond and blue eyed. How many of those here would not exist in that type of society? How about the Crusades? Remember, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely! Always remember history, and you may want to re-read 1984 because we are so getting there….it’s just happening later.
Politicians will do and say anything to stay in power, especially now that the economy has tanked and they likely aren’t qualified for regular jobs. They get a lifetime payout, so the longer they stay in office the better for them because we the taxpayer support them all for life.
Mr. Grumpy
April 28th, 2010
10:06 am
Well, it looks like radical onservatives have finally found legislation that really appeals to them. How many American citizens will have their constituional rights violated because of this illconceived “law”? Will an “Oh, I’m Sorry” be sufficient recompanse for a violation? And how many of those arrested will be Hispanic. A law like this does not solve the legitimate illegal immigration problem. It is like the sweeping of a broom that will hurt primarily American citizens who will ghet profiled because of their ethnicity. You raduical conservatives finally have a law you love– just like the laws passsed and enforced by Adolf Hitler and his Nazi storm troopers. If you had a collective conscience, you might be ashamed of yourselves. By the way, how many of you are true Americans, real Americans? If you aren’t Native American or have Native Americam ancestry, you have no right to call yourself a “real” American. Someone of your ancestors came to this country — some legally, some illegally. How did yours come?
John K
April 28th, 2010
10:06 am
Leave it to the GOP to take a look at the history of totalitarian regimes and think “hey, that’s a good idea!”
News Update – April 28, 2010
April 28th, 2010
10:08 am
[...] Nathan Deal Georgia GOP candidate for Governor says he’d implement Arizona-style immigration laws…. [...]
Intown
April 28th, 2010
10:09 am
There’s no such thing as “10th Amendment powers”
Intown
April 28th, 2010
10:11 am
Dear GOP:
Thank you for delivering the Democrats the Hispanic vote without actually having to do anything to earn that vote.
Sincerely,
The Democrats
JR
April 28th, 2010
10:16 am
Illegally crossing our borders is a crime. Why does any effort to enforce immigration laws face such resistance? If you don’t like the law, work with your elected representatives to change it. Otherwise, it needs to be enforced like any other law. We are a representative republic with laws passed by duly elected representatives. No one, including the President has the authority to ignore those laws, for any reason.
deegee
April 28th, 2010
10:19 am
Imno, here is a brief overview of the H-2B visa process. You can find the details on the USCIS webpage. It would be impossible for an employer to demonstrate that there are insufficient numbers of temporary American construction workers. You could perhaps get a student visa but you would not be able to work legally with that visa.
The H-2B non-agricultural temporary worker program allows U.S. employers to bring foreign nationals to the United States to fill temporary nonagricultural jobs. A U.S. employer must file a Form I-129, Petition for Nonimmigrant Worker, on a prospective worker’s behalf.
To qualify for H-2B nonimmigrant classification:
* The employer must establish that its need for the prospective worker’s services or labor is temporary, regardless of whether the underlying job can be described as permanent or temporary. The employer’s need is considered temporary if it is a one-time occurrence, a seasonal need, a peak-load need, or an intermittent need
* The employer must demonstrate that there are not sufficient U.S. workers who are able, willing, qualified, and available to do the temporary work
* The employer must show that the employment of H-2B workers will not adversely affect the wages and working conditions of similarly employed U.S. workers
* Generally, a single, valid temporary labor certification from the U.S. Department of Labor (DOL), or, in the case where the workers will be employed on Guam, from the Governor of Guam, must be submitted with the H-2B petition. (Exception: an employer is not required to submit a temporary labor certification with its petition if it is requesting H-2B employment in a position for which the DOL does not require the filing of a temporary labor certification application)
JR
April 28th, 2010
10:20 am
“Leave it to the GOP to take a look at the history of totalitarian regimes and think “hey, that’s a good idea!””
History? They only have to look at present day Washington and the regime in power there.
deegee
April 28th, 2010
10:29 am
The Arizona law is not as much about law enforcement as it is about ethnic cleansing. They think that if they can scare the Hispanics out of Arizona then they will reduce crime. The unintended consequence is that hard working Hispanic families will leave and take their money with them. Arizona will be left with the criminal element.
deegee
April 28th, 2010
10:42 am
Intown, The Arizona law is not a slam dunk for Democrats. Obama made some promises to Latinos during his campaign that have gone unfulfilled. Immigration reform has been buried by Obama and both houses of a democratically controlled congress. And now this in Arizona. I wouldn’t count on a big Latino turnout in November. Seriously, who is there to vote for?
First Sergeant
April 28th, 2010
10:46 am
Ivory
April 28th, 2010
7:42 am
Ivory, do I know you?
JR
April 28th, 2010
10:49 am
“The Arizona law is not as much about law enforcement as it is about ethnic cleansing.”
This is why we can’t seem to resolve issues like this. Rather than discussing the issue at hand, one side, with their argument lacking any merit, always brings in one of the “show stopper” issues. In this case, the strongest tool in that aresenal, race. I tell you what, let’s be fair. While we’re deporting all illegals from Mexico, let’s also deport all illegals from Canada. Would that make you happy?
Bill
April 28th, 2010
10:51 am
IMNO,
I believe the waiting list for legal immigration from Mexico is about 10 years.
Bill
April 28th, 2010
10:59 am
JR,
There is too much inflammatory language from BOTH sides in the debate. I can’t say that your posting did much to improve the tone.
Rafael Caycho
April 28th, 2010
11:30 am
This is not what Nathan Deal said before!!! He promised immigrants he would look at solutions to our failed immigration policy and THIS IS NOT A SOLUTION!!!!
Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis
April 28th, 2010
11:46 am
Black, White, Jew, and Gentile…called “whigs”…built This Country establishing the New Secular Order in opposition to the Old Sectarian Order, “Ancien Regime,” of king and pope: world history’s bastion of liberty, individual sovereignty, ruled only by Truth and Justice for “E Pluribus Unum” under only G-d by “Annuit Coeptis.”
The new “king” is Vatican banker Rockefeller whose family bank is now the Iraqi State Bank, yet to be brought to justice for financing Hitler from collection plate of the Roman Catholic Church, and four five generations “fronted” by the Bush/Walker, Roman Catholic/Knight of Malta clan.
The papists on the SCOTUS cheated Prescott Bush’s draft-dodging, dry drunk, closet-queen grandson into office to commit 9/11, for more oil and to profit from false war.
The Middle Class/The People is the only “stopper” on the Roman Anti-Christ’s “shoot the moon” in America.
Rome’s published stratagem for destroying that “stopper,” promoting illegal immigration by faithful Roman Catholic Hispanics, surplus slaves in Rome’s plantation aristocracy of Latin America, is available at the Library of Congress, Amazon.com, and your local Roman Catholic diocesan library: “The National Pastoral Plan for HIspanic Ministry,” (Publication / Office of Publishing and Promotion Services, United States Catholic Conference, No. 199-7).
Rich and poor, Democrat and Republican, old and young, must all oppose Rome’s efforts to subvert Our Nation.
We are One People.
Seal the borders and expropriate the Roman Anti-Christ’s fascist plutocracy.
Illegals who wish to become true Americans, even though the Roman Church in America is banished, should be granted an appropriate path to citizenship, If, and only if, they wish to “come out of Babylon” and recognize Rome for what Thomas Jefferson said it is: “The real Anti-Christ.”
Let us live in peace that G-d alone prosper our endeavors.
Rome in America, it “Fifth Column,” must be expropriated and banished.
Bush and Cheney must hang for 9/11.
Death for Treason
LibertyAtStake
April 28th, 2010
11:52 am
And the Conservative Ascendancy continues unabated….
http://libertyatstake.blogspot.com/
[For a light hearted take on our present peril]
deegee
April 28th, 2010
12:34 pm
JR, the Arizona law does not discriminate based on country of origin. I’m not sure what you know about geography but Arizona shares a border with Mexico, not Canada.
Additionally, if you completely sealed shut the border with Mexico, the drugs and weapons would start flowing across the Canadian border. As long as we’re buying it someone will be selling it.
Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis
April 28th, 2010
12:36 pm
Liberty as Steak, rather, read “The New Pearl Harbor” http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=w7-mnduSpeQC&oi=fnd&pg=PR6&dq=The+New+Pearl+Harbor,&ots=esLyDEJWQA&sig=4WUShpLMCiARvW1xBJRoNJoQGyk and know before G-d that Bush and Cheney committed 9/11;
or admit you’re just a papist feeding off the People from New Rome on the Potomac.
Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis
April 28th, 2010
12:37 pm
Establish Our Nation’s sovereignty just as Individual sovereignty must be secured: seal all the borders.
marianna
April 28th, 2010
1:21 pm
this new arizona law should be in all 50 states…
the federal law is NOT working……….
someone has to take over..
Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis
April 28th, 2010
1:47 pm
The People is sovereign in Our Land. It is our obligation.
Seal the borders. Expropriate and extirpate the treasonous faction in thrall to the Roman Anti-Christ.
Hang Bush and Cheney.
Establish righteousness in this Promised Land.
lynnbo
April 28th, 2010
2:17 pm
The smart and hard working illegals made lots of money in the boom years, they have gone back sense the recession hit to build businesses in their home countries, great story and glad we helped them succeed. We wish them the best.
However, what we are left with are the welfare class of illegals, poor and uneducated who are bankrupting our country and taking jobs from Americans, keeping wages low. Businessess want the cheap labor and government wants the votes, so nothing will be done and the taxpayer is shafted once again. It no longer pays to be a honest, do things right person. Join all the cheaters and join the welfare way of life until our country goes bankrupt….in about a year or two.
Erick Sanchez
April 28th, 2010
3:09 pm
The whole asking people for their documents is RACIAL PROFILING., Illegals are only here to do the jobs other people wouldnt do. i dont see white people working out in the fields or in the chicken plants working for minimal wage. They dont mean no harm to anyone, we just want to work and make a honest living. I would understand if their hurting or doing illegal things. They just want a better lifes for themselves and their families. America is a FREE LAND.! if you want to talk about illegals arent we ALL illegals.! This land belongs to the NATIVE AMERICANS., just think about before it.!
Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis
April 28th, 2010
5:13 pm
The prophecy is that all nations shall flow into one new Nation – the New Israel.
Black, White, Jew and Gentile “whigs,” fleeing king and pope, built this Promised Land by G-d’s grace and the three mottoes of The Creed.
Rome is the Anti-Christ from which we escaped – the Old Sectarian Order of king and pope – caesaropapism.
Illegal immigration is being promoted by Rome as a tool to destroy the non-Roman Catholic American Middle/Working Class. Should one doubt this fact, one need merely read their published stratagem to that effect: “The National Pastoral Plan for Hispanic Ministry.”
Innocents willing to depart the Babylonian priesthood and its “Black Aristocracy” behind the Bush/Cheney/Rockefeller “Fifth Column,” which killed Kennedy and King, financed Hitler, and committed 9/11, all to subjugate The People and to send us to false war, can assimilate in our culture if they are willing to become American.
Rome’s “Fifth Column,” promoting illegal immigration to “take back” Our Country, must be purged as the treasonous sectarian faction it is, most particularly led by the Gay Old Pervert party, the SCOTUS majority, and its bi-partisan bloc in Congress.
America must return to its “whig” roots.
“Whig” means “anti-Roman Catholic.”
Americans don’t wish their children to be molested, so why have the pedophile priesthood on our shores? The border must be sealed. Rome’s minions, Bush and Cheney, must hang.
Rasmussen poll: Nathan Deal leads Roy Barnes in Georgia 2010 governor race | Fresh Loaf
April 28th, 2010
6:23 pm
[...] yo, where’s that birth certificate? And yeah, it’s the same Nathan Deal who this week said he’d mimic Arizona’s boneheaded immigration law if elected governor. (To be fair to [...]
Andrews,Los Angeles
April 28th, 2010
7:24 pm
First they ignore us.Then they mock us,then they attack us,call us racist,then we WIN!
Illegal Alien is NOT a Race!
VICHY Governments do not represent Legal Citizens when
they will not stop illegal invasions of the Country!
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keyser_soze
April 28th, 2010
8:00 pm
Dang, some folks just don’t get it. Try this. Hold the CEOs of Georgia construction companies, Georgia farmers and meat packers, hotel and restaurant chains criminally liable for hiring illegal immigrants. Include: (1) a $100,000 fine for each illegal working for the company; and, (2) a mandatory minimum jail sentence of one year per illegal. Then, you will see a decrease in illegal immigration. Really, it’s not that hard. But, Nathan is tight with the Chamber of Commerce and I doubt he’ll ever favor a workable solution.
Jon Lester
April 28th, 2010
10:15 pm
The first priority of the Georgia GOP should be to address the very severe deficit of talent within its ranks.
Nathan Deal (R) Would Support Arizona Style Immigration Law for Georgia - Peaches in Regalia
April 29th, 2010
1:23 am
[...] Jim Galloway, the Atlanta Journal Constitution’s Political Insider, reports that former U.S. Representative Nathan Deal (R) would work to get legislation passed similar to the recent immigration bill in Arizona. From Galloway Arizona just took its place in the Georgia race for governor. This from a press release issued by the Republican campaign of Nathan Deal, the former congressman: [...]
James
April 29th, 2010
5:50 am
Willy Bradshaw; Can you please explain to the audiance what illegal immigration has to do with communism ?
levotb
April 29th, 2010
10:19 am
What Rep. Deal failed to mention is that Atlanta has become the hub for narcotics and human smuggling movement on the East Coast. That’s ILLEGAL ALIEN SMUGGLING AND ILLEGAL ALIEN NARCOTICS…