House GOP lawmakers file bill of impeachment against Thurbert Baker
A House Republican on Tuesday filed a resolution to bring articles of impeachment against Attorney General Thurbert Baker, for his refusal to file a legal challenge to the new federal health care law – as directed by Gov. Sonny Perdue.
State Rep. Mark Hatfield, sponsor of HR 1886, says Baker is bound by the state constitution to file legal at the request of the governor. Says the measure:
Attorney General Thurbert Baker. Ben Gray/AJC
“By failing and refusing to perform his constitutional and statuatry duties, Attorney General Baker has abdicated his authority and has committed an act against the state of Georgia….
Attorney General Baker’s shameful abdication of his lawful duties shows him unfit to serve the state of Georgia in the position of attorney general.”
Hatfield said 30 other House members have also signed onto the bill of impeachment, all Republican. Baker is a Democratic candidate for governor.
With only nine days left in the legislative session, and a tremendous budget gap yet to be resolved, the Waycross lawmaker said whether the bill would move would depend on the wishes of the Republican leaders of the House and Senate.
Baker, in a telephone interview, said: “It’s very disappointing to see some members of the Legislature respond in a way that’s not beneficial to the state. This is not productive – it’s not going to solve any of the crushing problems we face – water, transportation and education.”
The 13-year attorney general said he was confident of his legal footing and said past court decisions have declared that the attorney general, who is elected statewide independently of the governor, has the authority to make legal decisions for the state.
“I’m willing to debate this impeachment matter should the situation require,” Baker said.
A spokesman in the attorney general’s office couldn’t say when the last statewide-elected official was impeached — if ever.
State Rep. Mark Hatfield (R-Waycross). Ben Gray/AJC
A majority of the 180 members of the House would have to approve what basically is an indictment – which, in political terms, is possible. A trial would be conducted in the Senate. Conviction would require a two-thirds vote in that chamber – unlikely, given that Democratic cooperation would be required.
But there’s another good reason Republicans might hesitate. The state Constitution declares that “in cases of impeachment, judgments shall not extend further than removal from office and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust, or profit within this state or to receive a pension therefrom.”
So conviction could remove Baker, the only viable African-American in the race for governor, from that contest. And an attempt to impeach him could be portrayed as such.
Hatfield said he’s not concerned with the politics of the situation.
“It’s our position that the constitution is very clear, in [the] obligations that it places upon the attorney general to file suit on the request of the governor. He’s basically abrogated his constitutional responsibilities,” Hatfield said. “We feel very strongly that the attorney general has dropped the ball and failed to follow through on the mandates that are placed upon his office.”
The governor said today, as he has said earlier, that a decision to impeach should be left solely to the Legislature – he would not comment on it. Perdue said last week he would file – on his own authority – a lawsuit challenging the health care law passed earlier this month by Congress.
House Speaker David Ralston, significantly, is the second signer of HR 1824, a resolution that would direct the attorney general to file the lawsuit – but the resolution would lack the force of law. State Rep. Austin Scott of Tifton, the lead sponsor, is a Republican candidate for governor.
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Gman
March 30th, 2010
4:07 pm
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Gman
March 30th, 2010
4:10 pm
What bunch of idiots we’ve elected in here in the great state of Georgia! Why not wait until the results of other states’ lawsuits are in and then move if the results are what these yahoos consider favorable. Otherwise, it is a waste of time and money. Get rid of every last one of them!
Atlanta resident
March 30th, 2010
4:10 pm
So…when is Atlanta going to get a viable transportation plan? Never? We’d rather waste time with stuff like this?
Well then.
A hint to Jeff Davis County, etc.: Without Atlanta, this state is t-o-a-s-t. Quit dominating the Gold Dome’s time with petty squabbles like this and fund the one thing keeping Georgia from the third world.
John K
March 30th, 2010
4:12 pm
The GOP is in a complete, irrational hissy fit. Hilarious to watch “adults” act like this.
Jon
March 30th, 2010
4:12 pm
Seriously? The GA GOP needs to stop with their stupid political tricks and do their jobs.
Amend Georgia's Constitution NOW
March 30th, 2010
4:12 pm
Keep all Atlanta counties. Separate the rest of Georgia into four counties. Kick these anti-Atlanta buffoons out.
Ty
March 30th, 2010
4:15 pm
These people are sick….
Whatever
March 30th, 2010
4:15 pm
What a waste of time! There is already an opt out clause for states in the health care bill. This is political grandstanding at its worst. If anyone needs to be driven out of office, it is loony tunes like Hatfield who waste precious time on matters like this.
Sgt. At Arms
March 30th, 2010
4:17 pm
How about filing a bill to fix this traffic and the potholes that everyone zig zags around everyday. Its a wonder how fast you can file a bill will you want too…………
Republican turned Democrat
March 30th, 2010
4:19 pm
We can’t even budget for schools and the GA GOP wants to waste money on a baseless, loser lawsuit? I guess I need to look on the positive side, at least we’re not as backwards and ignorant as Alabama and Mississippi!
Used to be Disgusted
March 30th, 2010
4:20 pm
Do these idiots and fools not have anything better to do like, IDK, funding education?
brenda
March 30th, 2010
4:20 pm
I saw one of the political talk shows this weekend and one of Reagan’s top legal advisors stated that these law suits were ignorant to say the least and they could not win. This comes from a Republican. He stated that this is nothing but Political grandstanding.
chuck allison
March 30th, 2010
4:21 pm
Hatfield is right. Baker should be removed from office. The lawsuit should be moved ahead rapidly in cooperation with Alabama and Texas.
Cammi317
March 30th, 2010
4:22 pm
LOL, we have some real idiots in office in Georgia! This has been a hilarious news day. This is almost as funny as the “Kia Go Home Bill”! Although, I must admit, I agree inasmuch as the street signs and emergency bill boards are in English, the test should be in English as well. Seriously if you can’t read at all or can’t read the language that the street signs are in…what the he** are you doing driving anyway?
Jiggle the Handle
March 30th, 2010
4:23 pm
Hatfield is no dummy, just check his academic record. Nothing short of impressive.
On the other hand, he’s a hot-headed, rigid, absolutist, idealogical A##h@le. This jerk couldn’t sell a life preserver to a drowing man. He can only intimidate, threaten, and browbeat. He’s even been reprimanded by the Speaker several times for disrespectful attacks on members of his own party when they failed to agree with his position.
The Speaker cut him off at the knees on Friday night when he started calling out members by name (a serious breach of protocol and tradition), when he was railing against a bill he saw as a tax increase.
Sure he’s an attorney and I guess that gives him the background to render a legal opinion on the merits of his action to impeach Baker, but that in no way means his opinion is a correct one.
Just another jerk whose only talent I can discern is fooling his constituents into voting for him. Voters of the 177th—you can do MUCH better!
PW
March 30th, 2010
4:24 pm
What is the state of Georgia coming to? What a bunch of party liners who could care less about anything other than bringing our President of the United States down and also the Attorney General. Shame on you Republicans! I am embarrased to say that I live in the state of Georgia.
Daniel
March 30th, 2010
4:24 pm
Hey, Democrat blog posters. Stop pointing fingers and accusing Republicans of wasting taxpayer money and time when your own party is equally at fault. Democrats waste just as much time and money as the Republicans. So stop acting like Republicans s*ck when your party is the same way. This applies in Washington DC too, not just Georgia.
As a conservative, this bill is useless and I don’t agree with it.
Tony
March 30th, 2010
4:24 pm
Yeah, I’m with you. This is sad. It’s a shame that this state is burdened by such woeful leadership. These people aren’t responsible enough to govern our state.
Daniel
March 30th, 2010
4:24 pm
PW….just like the Dems wanted to bring down George Bush from day 1. Drop the crap argument already.
Urlost
March 30th, 2010
4:25 pm
The GOP is standing up for American people that live in Georgia. Look at how much of the US people did not want Obamacare. The Democratic led Senate / Congress / and President forced it’s will on the people. The political games were started by the Democrats in doing so. The people will speak in November…..heed my words. Thank you Sonny!!!
DICK
March 30th, 2010
4:25 pm
Quiet!!!! 125 more just lost their jobs. But that is okay, they will be able to watch the final 9 days of the jokes (session) going on in Atlanta. Come on big boys. Suit is not going to stop health care. Worry about education, water, tax waste. Our legislators this session should have to pay back every dime they received. They are a joke.
Hank (the redneck)
March 30th, 2010
4:25 pm
I even have to admit this is embarassing….sometimes I wonder why Im a GOP’er.
Im not voting for anyone next election!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
State Employee
March 30th, 2010
4:27 pm
WAY TO GO GOP…ALL THE WORK THAT THE OLDER GOP HAS DONE IS BEING PISSED AWAY BY THE YOUNG POWER HUNGRY GOP….THANKS YOU HAVE ASSURED DEMS WILL REGAIN THE GOVERNOR’S OFFICE AND MANY MORE DUE TO YOUR LACK OF INTELLIGENCE….GEORGIA HAS TONS OF IMPORTANT ISSUES…THANKS FOR NOT PAYING ANY ATTENTION TO THE VOTERS, BUT WE WILL RETURN THE FAVOR BY REMOVING YOU FROM OFFICE.
Keep doing this GOP
March 30th, 2010
4:27 pm
This is so like the GOP. Can’t wait for November when, hopefully, some adults will be elected.
carmikal
March 30th, 2010
4:28 pm
Soooo, they are going to try and impeach the man for filing a suit against a federal law that will not and cannot be over-turned???? So I’m assuming since they claim that the suit against health care would be handled for free that this impeachment process will be free as well???? Wow no mass transit, not enough sidewalks, not enough street lights, not enough salt trucks, not enough education but they have enough time to waste on situations like this??? I’m moving back to the north.
Lynn
March 30th, 2010
4:28 pm
Another example of the lunacy of Gawga legislators.
Farsider
March 30th, 2010
4:29 pm
They’re wasting time and money with this childishness. All partisan, all the time. What in heaven’s name has gotten into the GOP?
ELEPHANTSOCIALISTS
March 30th, 2010
4:31 pm
Sonny, you can’t find money for schools or infrastructure, but you can find money for FISHIN’ TOURNAMENT (I haven’t forgot that silly waste of millions near your hometown for your buddies) and to try to IMPEACH a fair and moderate Attorney General.
It’s long been time for you to go FISHIN’ anyway, and take your other crazy ELEPHANTS with you!
@Chuck Allison, so now we are following Alabama and Texas? You aren’t from around these parts are you? We lead! They follow. You are in the wrong place. We are Too Busy to Hate and Too Busy for STUPID LAWSUITS that we can’t win.
Why didn’t you want to sue the government for the mandate on Car, Home, Boat, Motorcycle, and Business Insurance? I’ll wait……
I know, cause it would be: STUPID! STUPID IS STUPID DOES….
WHAT A BUNCH OF IDIOT HYPOCRITES!!!!!!
I SEE WHY GA IS CONSIDERED A COUNTRY HILLBILLY STATE
March 30th, 2010
4:32 pm
Enough said.
Fedup
March 30th, 2010
4:32 pm
47 (can’t count Alabama and Mississippi) states will get another rousing chorus of laughter going as once again Georgia legislators step in IT again…what a bunch of space-wasters we have in this legislature.
King Beef
March 30th, 2010
4:32 pm
Again, I am embarrassed to say I used to live in that clowns (Hatfield) part of the state. Posturing to get attention is all Hatfield is about. He is quite the JOKE. Sorry for you folks in Waycross.
deecald43
March 30th, 2010
4:32 pm
So while the GOP is worried about a silly lawsuit, there will be no consideration for the teachers across the state loosing their jobs and the overcrowding of classrooms due to the closing of schools. Not to mention Clayton Co., loosing its public transportation – TOMORROW at midnite and MARTA suffering! That’s just a couple of the problems And these people run our state?
tim
March 30th, 2010
4:33 pm
I find it odd that Mr Baker, without reading the Health Bill, would say filing a lawsuit is unwinable and too costly.
And Mr Baker……a lawsuit has nothing to do with water, transportation, or education.
Mr. Baker…….YOU’RE FIRED!
Michael
March 30th, 2010
4:33 pm
This entire thing is just stupid political grandstanding. If the other states that are wasting their time and money filing suit over health care and, by some miracle, actually won, wouldn’t the results apply to Georgia too?
Hope in Georgia Afterall
March 30th, 2010
4:34 pm
GMAN !!!
Wow… there really are other rational thinkers in this state. Whew!!! Nine days left and these idiots are concerned about suing the Federal Government. I agree… let the other AGs spend their citizen’s tax dollars. We should wait for the results. What a complete joke.
Commonsenseagitator
March 30th, 2010
4:35 pm
Well, this proves it we are the state of total idiots now, ahead of Mississippi and Alabama. All of you republicans should be very proud of yourselves
David
March 30th, 2010
4:36 pm
Why must our state government embarrass us on an almost weekly basis?
They can’t fix the streets. They can’t fix the schools. They spend more time playing partisan politics on both sides of the aisle instead of doing anything for the constituents.
They tabled the anti-bullying bill for this?
carmikal
March 30th, 2010
4:36 pm
Tim?????
How can GA or any state win that lawsuit???? Seriously??
John K
March 30th, 2010
4:36 pm
The GOP is just full of petulant little brats who are upset they can’t have perpetual rule.
Jeff Davis Countian
March 30th, 2010
4:37 pm
Atlanta Resident,
First of all, I do not support impeaching of the AG. Second, I agree with you, we should proceed with building the Northern Arc which will solve all of Metro Atlanta’s traffic issues and save the State from becoming t-o-a-s-t.
Middle America
March 30th, 2010
4:37 pm
A majority of Americans didn’t want civil rights either, but they were wrong. Just because a majority of Americans are misinformed does not mean something is unconstitutional and should be repealed.
As for this business about impeaching the State Attorney General, it’s purely political theater. The lawsuits will fail and the GA GOP are going to lose in elections if they don’t get about the business of the people and get out of national political paybacks. Baker is doing what a duely elected official should do, which is not waste tax payer money on frivilous lawsuits that the Governor wants to initiate for his own political affiliations.
Mark my words, Republicans will regret opposing healthcare reform and all the lawsuits and repeal/replace rhetoric when the American people finally start reading what was in the reform instead of letting paranoid GOP fanatics tell them what was in it.
Jazzy18
March 30th, 2010
4:38 pm
This is so crazy….The republicans cannot lose any fights. They are now showing just how messey and nasty they are. This is racial and unwarranted. Poor babies are mad!!! They can’t have there way!
Jose
March 30th, 2010
4:39 pm
You can be highly educated and you can still stupid and do stupid things. They don’t care because they aren’t spending their own money for the law suit. I guess that they are gearing up to spending a lot of money for a law firm for their buddies. There is no such thing as a free law suit.
Get a government in office that is ready to work and do what’s right for all people. Exclusive is no longer the rule of the land – GOP.
Jose
March 30th, 2010
4:40 pm
Sorry, you can still be stupid.
Jeff
March 30th, 2010
4:41 pm
How stupid…Attorney General Baker’s role is not to be a puppet of the Republican Party. It riles me to see what jugheads have been elected to the Georgia Legislature.
tc
March 30th, 2010
4:41 pm
how bout impeach yourselves and gov for being so totally ineffective these last few years!
Wake Up Georgia!
March 30th, 2010
4:41 pm
Hatfield and the rest of the right wing GOP McCoys, including Perdue, are the ones that need to be impeached. What a waste of taxpayer funds!
Intown
March 30th, 2010
4:41 pm
What a bunch of fools. Perdue v. Baker settled these questions. The Republicans just can’t help themselves from doing stupid things.
Intown
March 30th, 2010
4:42 pm
If Perdue were a statesman he would’ve told the legislator to back off. So gutless, per usual.
poohbear
March 30th, 2010
4:43 pm
Hey, If you are ashamed to live in the state of Georgia, there are airplanes leaving Atlanta everyday! Why don’t you buy a ticket and move to another state! Or better still another country!
Reggie
March 30th, 2010
4:43 pm
Bassackwards!!!
Can we focus on real problems?? Aren’t there real problems in Waycross he could focus on and be a better of taxpayer money???
BW
March 30th, 2010
4:43 pm
Someone keeps voting for them.
Tony
March 30th, 2010
4:45 pm
OK Georgia, are you over the GOP yet???
spectator
March 30th, 2010
4:46 pm
So I guess we have heard from a bunch of “newcomer” Georgians who are always quick to characterize the majority party in Georgia as “ignorant rednecks”. On the other hand they can celebrate our dunce of a Attorney General, who is nothing more than a yellow dog democrat and supporter of obamacare. Of course he is not going to join the lawsuit that many other states are filing. That wouldn’t play well in his run (futile at best) for the democrat nomination for Governor since he will be highly dependent on the votes of his fellow african americans to make any sort of showing in the dem contest.
lANDRO
March 30th, 2010
4:47 pm
Of course Waycross has a lot problems, the biggest is they elected Mark Hatefield.
pat
March 30th, 2010
4:48 pm
I think our legislatures have all gone crazy! Nothing is going to get accomplished with all this childish behavior. It is all a game of politics which creates ill feelings, accomplishes nothing, but continues. so the child will remain in the spolight or can say ” I tried to do something about …….” ; knowing that he/she did not haved a ghost of a chance succeding.
middler and so tired of all the rhetoric :
March 30th, 2010
4:48 pm
With only a few days left in this session surely our representatives have work to do on fixing real problems affecting their real constituents. The Republicans need to stop focusing on being Republicans and obstructionists and do something, something positive, that will benefit the rest of us. The Do Nothing but help other politicians and special interests needs to come to a stop. Now! Today! I don’t care who you are, in the next election if you are an incumbent my vote is for your opponent. This state could be so much but we have even more selfish, partisan, and me-me-me legislators here than in DC. All we hear is Obama this, Democrats that! For once in a long while the GOP doesn’t get to be in charge of everything and ignore the general populace. I used to be a Republican and couldn’t stand it anymore. If you want to investigate and impeach somebody, try taking care of those incumbent or candidate reps who have been accused of ethics violations. Oh, I forget, they’re your buds. And Tim, it has nothing to do with what’s in the Bill. Remember the Civil War? Federal law, federal courts, and the national Congress trump the states. If the General Assembly has enough money to participate in a frivolous law suit it should let loose the money to help the schools, transportation, unemployed and uninsured, and tax payers instead.
ArtVandelay
March 30th, 2010
4:50 pm
“Hatfield said he’s not concerned with the politics of the situation.”
hahahahahahahahahahahaha…no wait….hahahahahhahahahahahahah…can’t breath…can’t…breath…ahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Georgian
March 30th, 2010
4:51 pm
what about solving some economic development, water or transportation issues. Oh yeah, there’s also the massive cuts to our educational system. What a bunch of incompetent and childish fools.
ConcernedVoter
March 30th, 2010
4:51 pm
And what are the Rs doing about transportation and education? What a joke our elected officials are.
RGB
March 30th, 2010
4:51 pm
I agree with all you smart posters: Georgia citizens should go quietly into the night and embrace everything about the health care bill. A 40% tax on a health care policy provided by employers is a small price to pay to ensure this president succeeds. I’m not concerned that the bill doesn’t index health policies–so that a $12,000 (value) policy will cost an additional $4,800 in taxes annually.
Look, it’s only $4,800 a year–stop complaining and stop being so selfish. In addition, $4,800 is a lot less than cap and trade’s tax of $3,000 on average, so quit complaining.
3 million retirees losing private Rx drug coverage is a small price to pay for showing our Democrat officials that we love them and support them. As VP Biden said, you gotta take one for the team….be patriotic.
The billions in charges to earnings that companies announced during the last week is a small price to pay for the U.S. to “get into step with the rest of the industrialized world” by having a government-provided health care system. Sure, investors in these companies will get a lower return–and the companies will have to cut back on hiring–but a country has to have its priorities.
See, if you oppose these things, you are racist. Racist. Racist. You don’t want to be a racist, do you? If you oppose the health care policy, you oppose Barack Obama and Thurbert Baker. By definition, you are a racist if you oppose these fine gentlemen.
I, for one, gladly support these measures and want to thank our fine public officials for helping us understand what is best for us. Without your help, I would not know what is best for me and my family.
Republican turned Democrat
March 30th, 2010
4:52 pm
Funny, Baker won’t be a “yessa Mr. Boss man” to Sonny, now the GOP wants to impeach him. The man is absolutely right not to file a wasteful lawsuit…to what end, further embarassment of the state?
Hurricane
March 30th, 2010
4:52 pm
Metro Atlanta needs to look at secession from the rest of GA.!!
Deborah
March 30th, 2010
4:57 pm
What a joke! This is a sad time in a state at the BOTTOM of everything from education of children, care of the elderly and to think precious time is being wasted on this matter! Get a grip and act like grownups!!
Big Dog
March 30th, 2010
4:57 pm
Sonny Purdue has really proven to me that his is an idiot and a racist, nobody else would file a suit on a bill that would help people, what he should have been doing trying to keep the bus service in Clayton County. i always said that Sonny Purdue was a part of the good ole boy club when he started the crap about the flag. well he will be out of office when his term is over.
David
March 30th, 2010
4:58 pm
Not ashamed to live here, just ashamed of the ignorance of people like you, Poohbear. Why don’t you rednecks just move to Texas and secede, so the rest of the country can remain in the 21st century while you go back to the good ol’ days.
Die Hard Dem
March 30th, 2010
4:58 pm
THIS IS WHY NOTHING CAN GET DONE IN GEORGIA. These F*ing REPUKES are more concerned about getting revenge on Obama and the ENTIRE Democrat party than worrying about the REAL problems that face Georgia and it’s citizens. Hey Sonny, how’s that WATER DEAL going on to make sure your “constitients” don’t THIRST TO DEATH????? How’s all of that BUDGETING going so your “constitients” don’t have to face MORE TAXES and fear of LOSING EVEN MORE HOMES TO FORECLOSURE or that their KIDS WILL STILL HAVE A SCHOOL TO GO TO????? Where’s all that TRANSPORTATION PLANNING going on so we can actually get funds to move ourselves OUT OF GRIDLOCK???? Oh wait, you’re too busy CRYING ABOUT THE D* HEALTH CARE BILL that, by FEDERAL LAW, you HAVE TO OBEY. This ISN’T the Civil War. You CAN’T just pout and say “I don’t like that”. Catch up to the times and ACCEPT WHAT YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT.
I am so DISGUSTED, OUTRAGED AND FURIOUS with this latest REPUKE attempt to undermine the Federal government and WASTE precious MONEY and TIME that our state DOESN’T have a lot of. You REPUKES can’t wait till election day. Well, I can’t either because this is one vote YOU WON’T GET.
WE have lost our way
March 30th, 2010
4:59 pm
Impeach all of the legislatures. This is a BIG JOKE!!!! Sad but the joke is on us.Ya’ll are doing great things under the gold dome. HA-HA-HA-HA-HA
sylvia
March 30th, 2010
5:01 pm
file a law suit against the clayton county commissioners for leaving bus passengers stranded. Stupid Stupid Stupid, help someone that is about to lose their homes. Help a child that want to go to college that can not afford it. help a family that don’t know where their next meal is coming from.
PoppaDog44
March 30th, 2010
5:01 pm
If its within the constitution and Baker violated it I agree. The is partism politics and a divided house will always fall. Baker being a Democrat is loyal to the party of Obama and not the people of Georgia.
The healthcare bill is bad, we already see with some of the provisions and with companies restating their earnings.
The country is about to have a financial disaster like European countries such as Greece and Obama wants to implement a new federal program that will only work like social security and medicare, all are broke and we don’t have the money to pay these entitlements.
We are a country of crybabies, I want my free XXX from somebody else and now its time to pay the piper.
Bush drove us to the cliff, Obama is driving us off the cliff.
Jeff Davis Countian
March 30th, 2010
5:01 pm
David? David Keresh, is that you summoning us back to Waco?
Tech Man
March 30th, 2010
5:02 pm
Why all the crying? The legislature is the proper place for this discussion. Let all points of view be debated. It is a political question that is raised in the correct forum.
Richard
March 30th, 2010
5:02 pm
Excuse,me but there are other concerns in Georgia than problems in Atlanta. Like,I care about Atlanta traffic or MARTA.Let, Atlanta leave the State and you stupid hippies Liberals go with it.
TW
March 30th, 2010
5:02 pm
GA should change its state flag to a brown bag with eye holes.
Former Jeff Davis County Resident
March 30th, 2010
5:03 pm
To Mr. Atlanta Resident, Jeff Davis County is Hazlehurst, Georgia. Waycross, Georgia is Ware County which is about 60 miles south of Hazlehurst. There are 159 counties in the state of Georgia and it appears you don’t have a clue what is outside of Metro Atlanta or off of I-75 going to Florida. Get your facts straight and realize all of the people of Georgia besides just the metro Atlanta area have a right, opinion and vote on how things go in the state.
RGB
March 30th, 2010
5:04 pm
And another thing, you wouldn’t expect the general council of a publicly-held company to be responsive to things the CEO wanted, would you?
That would take away the independence of the general council.
Same for Thurbert Baker. Or do you want to treat him as a second-class citizen.
I thought so. Racist.
John K
March 30th, 2010
5:06 pm
Maybe the GOP should do what they really want to do, hold their breath, fall on the floor kicking and screaming. It would have the same effect and not cost the Georgia taxpayers a dime.
Jeff Davis Countian
March 30th, 2010
5:08 pm
RGB, I believe you meant general “counsel” not council.
Republican White Male
March 30th, 2010
5:09 pm
I want my way on everything and if I don’t get my way I will DESTROY EVERYTHING IN MY PATH. The rule of law, the Constitution, ethics, courtesy … I don’t give a damn. I deny the legitimacy of any person or institution that disagrees or stands in my way. I don’t care about consistency or principles. I just want what I want and I want it immediately.
Robert H.
March 30th, 2010
5:10 pm
Would someone who works in the state capital PLEASE forward these posts to the GOP! I can’t believe they are’nt hearing any of this.
Lynn
March 30th, 2010
5:10 pm
Who decides what is best of Georgia, and who decides what is best for Georgians? This state is so backward. Did anyone see if any health care reform bills passed this year? Maybe in anticipation of filing an appeal to the federal health care bill? Shouldn’t the governing legislators in Georgia should have done something to provide access to health care for those “deemed” uninsurable, to make sure no one died needlessly? You have to be proactive to be truly pro-life.
Tech Man
March 30th, 2010
5:10 pm
RGB – Why would the general council of a publicly held company on be responsive to the CEO as well as the company as a whole? Doesn’t a company employ a general council to represent them?
Tech Man
March 30th, 2010
5:12 pm
oops, I made the same silly spelling mistake copying RGP.
As my old basketball coach used to say about ideas, “if you ain’t copying, you ain’t coaching” and so my copying bit me in the behind. lol
Marcel - Atlanta
March 30th, 2010
5:13 pm
Regardless of the issue, the Attorney General is expected to render his legal opinion regarding litigation issues that concern the state. Just because you don’t like the opinion he provided is not a reason to impeach him. Regarding the issue of suing the federal government over state responsibilities associated with the health care bill, the AG believes that its an un-winnable case. He provided his guidance and that should be that. There are other avenues that Gov Perdue has at his disposal, and if he chooses to ignore the AG’s advice, he should pursue them. But at the end of the day, AG Baker did his job.
Republican White Male
March 30th, 2010
5:14 pm
I haven’t seen your responses to my post but I don’t need to. I already have my answer. Pick one.
–typical lib
–the lib media has brainwashed you
–libs are worse
–I know you are but what am I
–its all Obozo’s fault
–you’re a socialist queer commit pinko hippy
Sam
March 30th, 2010
5:14 pm
Of course this is nothing but political grandstanding. States aren’t worried about winning, they are just worried about telling the Federal Government, “If you wont listen to the American people, we will.” As for the AG, if he isn’t doing his job, why not get rid of him. When is the last time you didnt get fired for not doing your job?
Mrs. White&Black
March 30th, 2010
5:15 pm
@Tim-please read the article so that you will understand that what Baker is referring to is the fact that Ga. has other more important issues to deal with than to waste money on impeaching him just b/c he didn’t bend to their will, so your post makes no sense.
@Urlost-your name speaks for itself.
@Daniel-even your fellow Rep.’s on this post are smart enough to realize we have Real and Important issues to deal with here in Ga. instead of another frivolous lawsuit. Obviously, you are petty and would rather fight/argue… just like our local politicians YOU AREN’T CREDIBLE.
Tech Man
March 30th, 2010
5:15 pm
Lynn 5:10 pm
§ House Bill 1268 was passed out of the House on cross-over day and was referred by the Senate. This is the ARRA “fix” bill for continuation for terminated employees that are not eligible for COBRA.
§ Senate Bill 310 did not cross over.
§ House Bill 1184 was passed out of the House on cross-over day after much debate by the proponents of mandates, 108-55. Many heartfelt stories were told in the well about people who suffered and died because they were unable to access mandated benefits. The proponents of this bill successfully argued that this bill would bring competition to the state that would allow people access to affordable health insurance. This is the cross-state lines selling bill. Extra wording was added that would provide that domiciled carriers may offer policies similar to the policies offered by out-of-state carriers – and that Georgia residents arbitrate in Georgia. Senator Judson Hill’s cross state lines bill, Senate Bill 407 also passed the Senate, 29-16, and will now be in the hands of the House. It will be interesting to see which bill is finally the law.
§ House Bill 1291 did not make it through the House on cross-over day. This bill provides for claims to be filed with private insurance companies for any inmate in state prison that has private insurance.
§ Senate Bill 50 also made it on cross-over day. This bill is about registering rental networks, providing they disclose payers in the network. This bill is very complicated and has caused quite a stir in the committee meeting.
John N
March 30th, 2010
5:16 pm
@ RBG, The state of Georgia is not a publicly held company. It is not listed on any stock exchange. It isn’t expected to make a profit.
Thank YOU
March 30th, 2010
5:19 pm
JESUS
coolman
March 30th, 2010
5:21 pm
GOP PLEASE STOP YOUE WHINING.EVERYTHING WILL NOT BE YOUR WAY,YOU MIGHT NEED TO MOVE TO A NEW COUNTRY THAT SAY LIVE MY WAY, DO WHAT I SAY AND ONLY GOP BYLAWS APPLY TO LIVE HERE AWAY FROM OTHER LITTLE PEOLPE
The Man with the Golden Dock (at Lake Jackson)
March 30th, 2010
5:21 pm
If the good people of Georgia despised me, they would have recalled me as their Governor. They dod not, so I, as well as my politics, are and have been accepted.
Splavistic
March 30th, 2010
5:22 pm
GOP = racist party of “hail no, yeehaw!”
Tech Man
March 30th, 2010
5:25 pm
The Man with the Golden Dock (at Lake Jackson) @ 5:21
Lester, is that you?
Democratic Part Member
March 30th, 2010
5:28 pm
I want my way on everything and if I don’t get my way I will DESTROY EVERYTHING IN MY PATH. The rule of law, the Constitution, ethics, courtesy … I don’t give a damn. I deny the legitimacy of any person or institution that disagrees or stands in my way. I don’t care about consistency or principles. I just want what I want and I want it immediately.
mark
March 30th, 2010
5:28 pm
can’t they just go home?
Mike
March 30th, 2010
5:31 pm
I’ve been a Republican since Richard Nixon, and I’ve voted in every election since then. I remember when Georgia was a Democratic State, then a steady stream of Republicans moved into this once great state. Now I’m sometimes ashamed to be a Republican when I read articles about Republican legislators stalling legislation, or promoting bills that waste taxpayers money and legislators time. I’ll vote for Baker for Governor in the next election, because it seems like he’s the only level-headed politician in the State of Georgia.
Hillbilly
March 30th, 2010
5:32 pm
Where are the McCoys when you need them?
Dave R.
March 30th, 2010
5:33 pm
First, this bill of impeachment is silly. Our reps should have better things to worry about.
However, the AG should have read the bill and boned up on his U.S. Constitution before deciding not to join in on the lawsuits filed by the other states. While it is certainly an uphill battle given the makeup of the court and the swing vote of Justice Kennedy, it is a fight worth fighting given the magnitude of having Congress force people to purchase something just for being American. That has nothing to do with REGULATING commerce, which is their right under the Constitution, but engaging in commerce – which is not.
Redneck Rick
March 30th, 2010
5:39 pm
I wonder if that mommy-in-law toucher from Paulding County supported this…
Tony2
March 30th, 2010
5:45 pm
So, why does the governor thumb his nose at healthcare refore but is more than willing to sell out our state for the same president’s education plan?
Baker is right to act in his own capacity because he was elected to do so.
Stand Up to Bullies
March 30th, 2010
5:46 pm
Don’t let them bully you Thurbert. You have our vote for Governor!
S
March 30th, 2010
5:51 pm
There was a time you didn’t have to buy auto insurance, but all the state governments except for one I believe requires just that. We were forced to do so. We’re forced to buy home insurance. We sat back and let the government do it. So now that the feds are requiring health insurance why are we crying foul. We should have stood up for our rights 30 years ago when the little stuff was happening. It’s too late now. We have to live with it just like we do with the auto insurance and such things. Or would you want to fight to eliminate that to? Like I said, it too and other things have been forced upon us…
Einsteindawg
March 30th, 2010
5:52 pm
Memo to all you Atlanta posters…why don’t you elect responsible folks to manage your city and county, and get your metro area “house” in order. With the fiscal and monetary mismanagement since Honest Sam Massell, it won’t be long before you are responsible for an extra 3% added to our state sales tax, just to keep Hotlanta afloat.
Tech Man
March 30th, 2010
5:54 pm
Tony2 @5:45 pm
1. Health care: Gov Perdue thinks there is a better way than “dumping on” state government long term costs sprinkled with the powdered sugar of temporary year or two federal funding.
2. He must agree with Obama on education if he is supporting Obama’s ideas or at least floating them for consideration.
john
March 30th, 2010
5:55 pm
“He’s basically abrogated his constitutional responsibilities,” Hatfield said. ”
I want to see where this is in the GA constitution.
Tech Man
March 30th, 2010
5:56 pm
S @5:51
You are not forced to buy auto insurance if you do not have a car. Owning a car is an election one makes.
The One
March 30th, 2010
5:57 pm
Okay folks, this is really starting to get beyond the point of stupidity. The repubs are really the one that are destroying evrything in sight. I just read on ajc.com that the repubs passed the so called “Kia go home bill” , which means that people who seek to get a drivers liscense in the state of georgia will only be able to take it in english. And then the repub who brought the bill before the house doesn’t think that it will effect georgia economy in any way. Is that repub smoking crack? He must be smoking some strong drugs if he thinks that that won’t effect the georgia economy. .He must not have any idea how many people of spanish decent live here? He must not. And on top of it, they have the nerve to call it the “kia go home bill”! Man, these repubs and tea partiers are straight crazy. Kia just built a large auto plant here in georgia(which means jobs to our state), and if they get wind of this, believe me, they will move elsewhere and take thousands of jobs with them. Since when did we become so anti- immigrant in america? America was built with immigrants comming here for a better life. This is really beyond crazy, and it will backfire, trust me. The repubs actually think that they are gonna win votes by doing stupid things like this, then they need to think again! There are tons of people that live in georgia that have different racial backgrounds that they are definatley offending. I agree with alot of other strategist that the repubs may think that they have things all sewed up, but , trust me, it’s gonna be alot different for them come november. Especially with the things that they are doing. They are showing that they are anti -obama, anti- immigrant, anti – healthcare, anti- everything. Then they have the nerve to talk about so called big goverment spending, and they are spending donors money. Aint that about a trip! What hippicrits they are. People who live in glass houses should not through stones! They and the tea party are a straight joke, period, and beleive me, they do not appeal to the majority of americans that can think. They use lies and deceit to systematically control those who don’t think for themselves. In other words, they only appeal to the brainless. They don’t appeal to anyone who can think for themselves and that is a fact. The GOP , and tea party is a joke, period! Keep pissing off immigrants ya’ll, just keep on keeping on, that’s all I have to say. You’ll eventually pay for it in the end with lost votes.
Tech Man
March 30th, 2010
6:00 pm
The one @ 5:57
How in the world does spending a private donation equate in any way with spending public money?
Proud Democrat
March 30th, 2010
6:03 pm
Pay attention to what is going on here in Georgia. Schools are closing, bus lines shutting down, counties and cities are going broke. Politicians are grandstanding. If Georgia Republicans are a rubber stamp for the stunts and tactics that Washington Republicans are using, they are not working for our best interests. Georgia has real problems and Republicans are playing politics.
The One
March 30th, 2010
6:04 pm
Fist off Tech Man, Let me tell you this. It doesnt look good for the repubs to talk about big government spending, and then turn around an do the same thing with donors money. They look really stupid doing that. It’s would be like me telling my young son not to drink, and then I turn around and do it. How can you follow someone like that!
Iconoclast
March 30th, 2010
6:05 pm
There must be a drought in Ware County. Gators are crawling out of the swamp and all the way to the state house. Someone please throw Hatfield and his ilk a small pet before they mutilate the rest of our state with their patently partisan antics.
Tech Man
March 30th, 2010
6:06 pm
Opponents of the bill call it the “Kia Go Home” bill. The bill is not named the “Kia Go Home” bill. I want to meet and congratulate any poor State of Georgia employee that has to try to help people in 13 different languages. Now, that is someone that deserves praise!
Tech Man
March 30th, 2010
6:08 pm
The One @ 6:04
My question is what business is it of anyone but those involved in spending private money. I earned it and I will spend what Obama lets me keep however I want.
“OBAMA – If it is listed in the yellow pages the federal government should run it!”
Jay
March 30th, 2010
6:09 pm
WHile you guys are in a suing moe, maybe you can figure out who to hold accountable for the $500M in cuts that the school districts in metro Atlanta are having to make. Or perhaps you want them sick and uneducated.
Sally
March 30th, 2010
6:09 pm
Where do I sign?
The One
March 30th, 2010
6:12 pm
I agree with you Proud Democrat. The thing is that the majority of the of the tea party are always demonstrating, and a lot of them a unemployed. They are protesting against big government spending, and then turn right around and apply for benefits that they will be getting from whom? The big government that they are protesting against. Like , social security, unemployment benefits, medicaid, etc. And to top it off, when one of them falls ill, or their family members fall ill, they will be looking for health care benefits. Man, what a joke!
Larry Craig
March 30th, 2010
6:14 pm
This is starting to make me embarrassed to be a Republican. Tap Tap
Tech Man
March 30th, 2010
6:14 pm
The One @ 6:04
Or like Al Gore preaching conservation, after he invented the internet, and building then living in a palatial electricity wasting estate…
Jay
March 30th, 2010
6:16 pm
In re: Einsteindawg
Atlanta metro allows the rest of the state to exists. If they ran it like the back woods you obviously live in, you wouldn’t have any where to go or any one to blame. You wouldn’t have electricity or telephone for people like Beck to feed you the nonsense you regurgitate on this blog.
The One
March 30th, 2010
6:17 pm
Hey tech man, Just go read the article man on the bill. It is named the “kia go home bill”… In case you don’t do the research on your own, then I pulled up the article for you.
http://blogs.ajc.com/gold-dome-live/2010/03/30/senate-to-drivers-speak-english/
Senate to drivers – Speak English
3:15 pm March 30, 2010, by Ernie Suggs
According to state Sen. Jack Murphy, there are 13 languages in which someone can sit and test for their Georgia driver’s license.
For him, that is about a dozen too many. So on Tuesday, the Cumming republican revised and got approved a bill that would make English the official and only language someone can use to get their license.
Murphy, who chairs the public safety committee, said it was naturally a safety issue. Drivers who can’t read road signs pose a danger to everyone, he said.
But critics of the bill, point to the fact that illiterate Georgians are still allowed to drive and are helped with the test. But their overriding concern is that the bill is anti-immigration and stunts economic development in the state.
They even have a name for it.
The “Kia Go Home” bill, named after the South Korean automaker which builds cars here in Georgia with a sizable Korean workforce.
“This bill would tell Kia that it is okay to invest a billion dollars here in Georgia, but your employees cannot drive here,” said Jerry Gonzalez, executive director for the Georgia Association of Latino Elected Officials. “This is sending the wrong message and would make Georgia the only state in the country with a law like this. It is anti-immigration, anti-Latino and anti-economy development.”
SB 67 was actually a bill from the last legislative session that many thought was long dead. It passed the Senate and the House last year but lawmakers failed to agree on language before the session ended.
Tuesday’s re-appearance of the bill was a surprise since it was not listed on the Senate Rules Calendar for Day 31. Murphy said he stripped the bill of a confusing amendment the House added. It now goes back to the House, where he predicts it will pass out of.
“Look, I can’t go to France or Germany or Mexico and get a driver’s license. Yet, we give them in 13 languages here,” Murphy said. “It is amazing how many people cannot read English who are driving. You should have to have a basic understanding of English to be able to drive. And it gives them a great incentive to learn English.”
The bill impacts those who are permanent residents only. Temporary license seekers are exempt. But while Murphy said his bill targets non-English speaking people who can’t read traffic signs and emergency messages, he said the bill doesn’t account for illiterate Georgians.
“We have to make an exception and we are not going to take them off the road,” Murphy said.
So, a 70-year-old Georgia man with a 2nd grade education, who can’t read, would still be allowed to get a license because he speaks English.
“In Georgia, an illiterate person can go and have an exam administrated to him orally,” said Democrat Nan Orrock of Atlanta. “That just shows you the hostility toward people who speak another language. Immigrants learn English. We have 250 years of history that proves that. So that is a non-issue.”
Orrock debated Murphy furiously against the bill, which ultimately passed 39-11. She said the bill diminishes Georgia’s global competitiveness.
“This sends a hostile message under the banner of anti-immigration,” Orrock said. “Our governor travels at taxpayer expense to other nations seeking businesses to come here. We are speaking with a forked tongue here in Georgia, when we say we want your investment, but create a barrier to a basic tool – which is a driver’s license.”
Murphy said the bill is not designed to be against immigration and said he doubts that the state’s economy would be impacted by it.
“It is not going to hurt economic development,” Murphy said. “Nobody has approached us about it hurting economic development.”
Tech Man
March 30th, 2010
6:19 pm
The One
Please read aloud with me….
But critics of the bill, point to the fact that illiterate Georgians are still allowed to drive and are helped with the test. But their overriding concern is that the bill is anti-immigration and stunts economic development in the state.
*****They even have a name for it.*****
The “Kia Go Home” bill, named after the South Korean automaker which builds cars here in Georgia with a sizable Korean workforce.
Again, the “critics” have named it.
The One
March 30th, 2010
6:20 pm
Tech man, is that enough info for ya man? Start doing your own research, and stop listening to people like hannity, palin, beck, limbaugh, etc. Stop being brainwashed and think for your self! They are only in it to line their pockets. Do your research man! It’s there for you in plain english. It is nicknamed, or even called the “Kia go home bill” man, dont hate the player(or even the messenger), hate the game!
The One
March 30th, 2010
6:23 pm
Tech man, no matter what the bill is called, it still sends the wrong message!
Tech Man
March 30th, 2010
6:23 pm
The One
Thank you for making my point.
The critics (those AGAINST the bill) nicknamed it “Kia go home bill”
That poor State of Georgia employee having to translate and help in 13 different languages trying to explain critics are not the sponsors.
Da Bull
March 30th, 2010
6:25 pm
Rep. Mark Hatfield, your village called, they want their idiot back!
Alabama Communist
March 30th, 2010
6:25 pm
State Rep. Mark Hatfield, sponsor of HR 1886, says Baker is bound by the state constitution to file legal at the request of the governor.* Jim
In a amazing legal turnround! 3 Republican tea baggers in Hatfield district file a complaint with the101 st Michigan Milita Religious Hurharr Group to have Jesus spank Hatfield rear end for making himself a Donkey Ass out himself, when they get out of prison in the year 2098.
Tech Man
March 30th, 2010
6:26 pm
As a great mentor of mine used to say, “Advice is plentiful and cheap, quality advice is rare and priceless”.
David
March 30th, 2010
6:28 pm
@The One, you’re wasting your breath. People like Tech Man aren’t ever going to evolve, much like the GOP’s extremist hissy-fit politicians that make the news. I know there are some in the GOP who still have integrity and rise above partisan bickering, but they really need to reign in the ignorance in their party.
I’m a Democrat, but I fully believe in a two+ party system. Without balance and compromise, our government is broken.
Tech Man
March 30th, 2010
6:32 pm
David 6:28 pm
Evolve – Is that what you call screaming about research and then finding egg on your face? If that is the definition then I guess I haven’t evolved. Of should I say Al Gore defending global warming as he pockets 100’s of millions.
bart
March 30th, 2010
6:34 pm
This is so reminiscent of the bile that was spewed back in the 60’s over civil rights legislation that it is scary. Southern politicians did everything to stall or stop the legislation. Don’t tell me there’s not a racist slant to all this crap the Repubs are dishing out. It’s an embarrassment that we Georgians elect such ignorant rednecks to office.
The One
March 30th, 2010
6:34 pm
Why is it that schools have zero tolerance for bullying, and then you have the tea party hurling racial slurs a congressman, showing up with racial signs, such as Pres. Obama as a witch doctor, and spitting on people, and then we our kids are supposed to follow that mess. Pleasssssssssssssssssse! Everyone deserves to to have a sensible dialect when it comes to politics. Zero tolerance should not be just for our kids, but should apply to adults as well when it comes to bullying. No is the time for us to come together for our country in order for it to succeed against other nations. One for all, and all for one. A house that is divided will fall, and that is what the enemy is looking for. America is still a great nation, an we must stick together. We are still one country under the red, white , and blue. And always support our troops because they are the reason why we are able to sit here and have this kind of dialect.
mp
March 30th, 2010
6:40 pm
While this state continues it’s slide to thrid world status, I think the Republicans have missed a major opportunity: a resolution naming Obama as the Anti-Christ. This is what we do here in Georgia. We have made posturimg absurdity into a fine art and our guiding principle.
Libby
March 30th, 2010
6:41 pm
ObamaGod’s KoolAid is much tastier than Tea.
Name those signers!
March 30th, 2010
6:42 pm
Ok, when will we see the list of those who signed on to this stupid waste of time??? We deserve to see immediately the co-sponsors of this idiotic grandstanding!
Jaye
March 30th, 2010
6:42 pm
Our Ga. Repubs need to call in Micahel Steele for advice. They can meet at one of Atlanta’s old-fashioned strip clubs – not one of those new-fangled LA joints. That’s okay, as long as a lobbyist doesn’t pick up the tab. And no mothers-in-law allowed!
Melanie
March 30th, 2010
6:45 pm
My question is…why not file the law suite against the Obama care? Baker is only trying to make a point; he is running for Governor people & he is a democrat! He does not want Obama coming after him if he does file the suit. I hope they do throw him out & put someone in there that has enough guts to stand up to Obama & his socialistic administration & tell them we do not want government ran health care!
Libby
March 30th, 2010
6:46 pm
Why haven’t the Republicans that threatned the Democratic leadership in Washington been exposed and arrested for their terrorist acts? Why I ask! Hail ObamaGod!
Brian Tillman
March 30th, 2010
6:49 pm
This is sad. I am a serious independent. I see both sides of this. Both parties make me sick to my stomach. However, this impeachment talk is really shocking! We don’t have the time or the money for this! What does it profit to impeach the AG? If the GOP wants to file a suit against the Gov, let them do it with their own money. Not ours. What they are doing is impeachable. Using public funds for personal gain is an offense! I am will not vote for my rep if he votes in favor of this. Just because you are a republican does not mean that you have to vote with the rest of them. We voted for you because you are your own person… Their is no point to having a legislature if they will all vote for their own party… This is not a football game. We either all win or we all loose.
Libby
March 30th, 2010
6:50 pm
We Democrats loathe Trickle Down Economics. The liberal platform is proudly and loudly promoting Trickle Up Poverty. Hail ObamaGod Hail!
Tech Man
March 30th, 2010
6:51 pm
Or they could call on Former Democratic Chairman of the United States House Committee on Ways and Means committee Rep. Wilbur Mills and his secretary/stripper Fanny Foxe…
Libby
March 30th, 2010
6:51 pm
Don’t Tread on my ObamaGod!
The One
March 30th, 2010
6:52 pm
Melanie don’t get sick, don’t get old and don’t loose your job and the sad thing is now you are cover, funny .
Libby
March 30th, 2010
6:57 pm
My ObamaGod has KoolAid in a rainbow of flavors! My favorite is blue raspberry, because Blue is the color that I love! Hail ObamaGod Hail!
The One
March 30th, 2010
6:58 pm
Brian Tillman, you talk like a man who really cares and you get it. Enough said.
TIRED OF PURDUE SICK AS*
March 30th, 2010
6:58 pm
ALL THESE SICK-O’S NEED TO BE IMPEACHED!!!!!!!!!! MR. BAKER A FAIR MAN DOES NOT WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN THAT SENSELESS SH*T!!!!!!
IMPEACH HIM WHY????? LET’S IMPEACH THE GOVERNOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WITH HIS SICK PITIFUL SELF. HE NEED TO TAKE ALL HIS GOOD OLE BOYS WHO HAVEN’T HAD SEX SINCE THE DEVIL WAS A LITTLE BOY AND SIT DOWN SOMEWHERE. LEAVE PEOPLE ALONG….MISERY LOVES COMPANY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gahorn
March 30th, 2010
6:59 pm
Looks like “The One” is a frustrated journalist. He really wants a job with the AJC.
The One
March 30th, 2010
7:01 pm
TIRED OF PURDUE SICK AS* Here, Here
South Georgia Hick
March 30th, 2010
7:02 pm
ok Melanie… this ends government “ran” health care… medicare, medicaid and veteran’s administration… Good bye elderly folk… here’s the real death panels… bye, bye social security too.
The One
March 30th, 2010
7:03 pm
Gahorn. O my, not another Wood rat………../
Tech Man
March 30th, 2010
7:03 pm
Brian Tillman “no point to having a legislature if they will all vote for their own party”
Please tell that to Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid!
Libby
March 30th, 2010
7:04 pm
It about the color of Thurbert Baker’s skin, isn’t it you mean nasty Republicans. Conservatives need to also stop making fun of his bowl haircut! AG Baker’s favorite KoolAid flavor is grape and orange mixed!
Ralph
March 30th, 2010
7:04 pm
here is my idea: Impeach all GOP legislators and Governor Perdue. I mean, can these fools get any more stupid? Hey Hattfield, Impeach yourself for being a dumb a**! Common sense in the GOP has left the planet.
Whatdoiknow
March 30th, 2010
7:08 pm
Atlanta Resident:
From one Atlanta resident to another, Atlanta was a very nice Southern city up until the time we paved the roads leadding north . . .
Libby
March 30th, 2010
7:08 pm
I can’t wait to get my free healthcare! I only make $75K a year and I cannot afford HealthCare. My BMW and my McMansion make me LOOK good, that’s all that matters. I can’t wait for my free healthcare like my illegal and welfare friends have. Hail ObamaGod Hail!
Libby
March 30th, 2010
7:11 pm
Why do the Republicans get to be called Right? Left sounds so low class. ObamaGod is going to introduce a Bill to fix that to! Hail ObamaGod Hail!
The One
March 30th, 2010
7:13 pm
Gahorn, let me just answer you player. I already have a job, and a good paying one at that. I do not want to work for the ajc. I just get tired of the people with their stupid comments.
The Man
March 30th, 2010
7:14 pm
The Republicans are a mad bunch of white men who are afraid because America is changing to a point where they’re in the minority. Women, Afirican-Americans, Asians, and Latinos are increasing in number. When the see someone like Baker stand their ground and not agree with them they become furious.
The One
March 30th, 2010
7:15 pm
But, one thing that i’m learning is that you can’t change stupid. Stupid stays with you forever! Get out of the Matrix and wake up people! I’m outta here! See ya later!
The One
March 30th, 2010
7:17 pm
I agree with what you posted “The Man”….. Here, here!
Resolution to Impeach Thurbert Baker Introduced in House - Peaches in Regalia
March 30th, 2010
7:17 pm
[...] lawmakers, including state Representative and gubernatorial candidate Austin Scott (R), officially signed their names in support of impeaching Baker: A House Republican on Tuesday filed a resolution to bring articles of impeachment against Attorney [...]
Julie Camp
March 30th, 2010
7:24 pm
I see a lot of comments by people that are uninformed and have no idea what is in the health care bill, nor do they know how it will effect our state. To all of you that oppose what Perdue is doing, you should go, sit down, calm down and read the bill. You also need to go down to the state capitol and listen to what is actually happening. Then perhaps, you can go on with your name calling and foolishness. If you feel the health care bill is fine, then you should move out of the US and let us live in peace around here. The majority of this nation do not want more government take overs. If you’re too lazy to take care of yourself, then just go. We don’t need you.
Kevin
March 30th, 2010
7:26 pm
So much indignation on the board. It’s good to see so many have such profound insight.
I, for one, support removing Mr. Baker. Impeachment proceedings against him are no more or no less political than Mr. Baker’s blind support of so-called reform. Mr. Baker is charged with serving the interests of Georgians. I’m a Georgian (and I pay a lot of taxes to prove it), and he is certainly not supporting me.
Kevin
March 30th, 2010
7:29 pm
Dearest The Man-
If that’s what you believe Republicans to be, knock yourself out.
Any idea how the majority of women vote? How the majority of Hispanics vote? How the majority of Asians vote?
Do your homework, or shut up. You look like a fool.
Fed up in GA
March 30th, 2010
7:32 pm
I guess Gov. Purdue and the “boys” wants to do the “ethical” thing by impeaching Baker.
This just goes to show how corrupt some of these politicians are. Some of them looked the other way when the “ability to accept gifts” from lobbyists and corporation and the obvious conflicts of interest were brought to light. Now they want to go after a good man for having the courage to do what he felt is right. We need more people like Baker who will stand up for something and have the courage to make a tough but correct decision.
This is what is wrong with Government… special interests, gifts and lobbyists are appreciated more than a good, hard working Attorney General.
tdawg in stockbridge
March 30th, 2010
7:38 pm
A bunch of IDIOTS, products of the Georgia Educational system that they keep cutting. Their constituents also must be a bunch of IDIOTS, for supporting these IDIOTS. Do us all a favor and impeach yourself so someone can actually help this state with our more important issues-IDIOT.
Billy
March 30th, 2010
7:41 pm
There goes the GOP again, I guess that’s where all the budget money goes, strip clubs, clothes, stupid trials for impeachment (wonder how much that will cost). Sonny Perdue wanting to dip in the lottery fund. Republicans are masters of hypocrisy, deception, cheating, lying and putting up smokescreens! They worry about illegal aliens when the threat is in our back yard with these miltant christian group wanting to overthrow the government. I wonder who is more dangerous.
Republicans are a JOKE!! I vote democrate just not to vote republican!!!
Truth B. Told
March 30th, 2010
7:44 pm
School system is 49th – in the country.
Can’t afford more teachers
Can’t afford to fix the budget for the only Trauma Center in the State
But REPUBLICANS have found money to throw away – WHERE IS THE MONEY COMING FROM TO IMPEACH ANYBODY?
DOESN’T THAT PUT A STRAIN ON THE SAME LEGAL SYSTEM— THE ONE WHOSE BUDGET JUST GOT CUT — and had to lay off people.
ARE THESE FOLKS LIVING ON THE SAME PLANET AS THE REST OF US?
professional skeptic
March 30th, 2010
7:49 pm
http://blogs.ajc.com/mike-luckovich/2010/03/26/march-28-cartoon/
professional skeptic
March 30th, 2010
7:49 pm
http://blogs.ajc.com/mike-luckovich/2010/03/19/march-21-cartoon/
Warbler
March 30th, 2010
7:51 pm
Okay, once again for all the law-abiding liberals out there.
Article V, Section III, Paragraph IV, Georgia Constitution:
Paragraph IV . Attorney General; duties. The Attorney General shall act as the legal advisor of the executive department, shall represent the state in the Supreme Court in all capital felonies and in all civil and criminal cases in any court when required by the Governor, and shall perform such other duties as shall be required by law .
Now, I suppose you will all argue that this doesn’t really say what it says. To a liberal, the law only counts when it agrees with your position.
Truth B. Told
March 30th, 2010
7:52 pm
@Kevin,
Sir, if the Attorney General tells you that the state has no legal position to sue, and he has been the Attorney General for 13 years.
Why can’t yall — yep YALL believe what he is telling you?
In this case — HE IS THE ATTORNEY — not a state representative.
There are only 15 states trying to sue….did you notice I said — only 15 states. WHERE ARE THE OTHER 35 STATES on this matter????
That should tell you something…..they either know — what Baker knows….or they are too financially strapped to do anything…and are waiting on the sidelines — LIKE WE SHOULD BE DOING.
If a state has the money to pay for all of this…..GO FOR IT! — GEORGIA SURE DOESN’T!.
The Truth Hurts
March 30th, 2010
7:56 pm
Get rid of this Socialist AG who thinks his Socialist views allow him not to listen to his superiors….typical Democrat Brainless and Clueless…now this fool will find himself out of a job!!! LOSER!! LOL
The Man
March 30th, 2010
8:00 pm
Kevin, the women, hispanics and asians that I work with didn’t vote for John McCain and Sarah Palin. You know Sarah Palin whose husband was part of a group that wanted Alaska to leave the U.S. John McCain the Wespoint grad who finished at the bottom of the class. I told my son go to West Point finish at the bottom of the class and the you can run for President. The Republican Party AKA Ku Klux Klan. Rush is racist. Hannity is racist,. O’Reilly is racist. Fox News “Unfair and unbalanced”
Robert W. Patrick
March 30th, 2010
8:08 pm
I applaud AG Baker’s stance on this issue. I think it is absolutely senseless to file a suit in an effort to prevent the under-served and uninsured from getting adequate health care. Lest we forget, some legislators often act in opposition to the common good in exercising their authority. I consider the request to file the referenced law suit to be another case in point.
Tom
March 30th, 2010
8:13 pm
Julie Camp, if I were a wagering man, I would bet you didn’t vote last election, and didn’t actively participate in getting and your party’s candidates elected to office (all talk, no action type).
Your views indicate your a fascist (see Google, Wikipedia, for definitions). As you become more political involved in the democratic process, you’ll mature. We are all Americans, and each and everyone can make a meaningful contribution. Totaliftarianism has no place here (no American has to leave because their opinion is different than yours Julie). And Thurbert Baker, an independently elected official, should not be impeached, because his professional opinion differs from the pro-bono attorney friends of our good Governor.
The Truth Hurts
March 30th, 2010
8:16 pm
Get rid of this Socialist…just like the rest of congress losers that support this welfare bill….Obama and his Socialist party think its ok to take my money to pay for some lazy, deadbeat. Let these slackers go out and buy their own insurance like I did…instead they have to leach off of me and other productive members of society….GET A LIFE!!
Bobby
March 30th, 2010
8:18 pm
I’m amazed the Georgia Republicans don’t wear their white sheets to the legislature each day.
Henry
March 30th, 2010
8:18 pm
Georgia lawmakers who are suing over health care bring back memories of 1955, when the legislature, reeling from the 1954 Supreme Court decision to integrate schools, passed legislation to withhold funds from any school system which allowed black and white students to attend the same school. Now wouldn’t our segregationist forefathers be proud of Georgia’s fight for states’ rights?
The Truth Hurts
March 30th, 2010
8:25 pm
Bobby….the typical ignorant loser I was talking about…He thinks just because he is a racist everyone else in america is too…..What KLAN do you belong to bobby? You really need to stop being so racist….its sickening!!!!!
Libby
March 30th, 2010
8:28 pm
The Democrats love the black men because America is changing to a point where they’re in the minority. Women, Afirican-Americans, Asians, and Latinos are decreasing in number. When we see someone like Baker stand ground and not agree with get all tingley inside. Hail ObamaGod Hail!
Kevin
March 30th, 2010
8:30 pm
Well, The Man, I shouldn’t have warned you to not look like a fool. Because you clearly ignored my suggestion.
You, my friend, are precisely what’s wrong with our once-great nation. Ignorance and indignation. All rolled up in one.
Tech Man
March 30th, 2010
8:30 pm
Henry @ 8:18
So how do you recommend a state defend itself against a federal law they disagree with?
Libby
March 30th, 2010
8:30 pm
You cannot imPEACH in the Peach State. That would be racist!
Libby
March 30th, 2010
8:32 pm
The Truth Hurts is the typical ignorant loser we was talking about…He thinks just because he is a racist everyone else in america is too…..What KLAN do you belong to The Truth Hurts? You really need to stop being so racist….its sickening!!!!!
Libby
March 30th, 2010
8:35 pm
My ObamaGod’s KoolAid is delish!
Jiggle the Handle
March 30th, 2010
8:36 pm
I entered the fray earlier this afternoon and have just reviewed all the comments that this deservedly generated. For the most part, everyone has made some good points (some hilarious…i.e. “tap, tap”), and as these free -for-alls go, everyone has been fairly civil.
I don’t want to preach, but because of a lack of employment, I’ve had the opportunity for a close look (very close) at the House this legislative session. Here’s my take:
1) Partisanship is alive and thriving at the State level. Why should it be any different than the national level?
2) The General Assembly is comprised of:
The Truth Hurts
March 30th, 2010
8:40 pm
Wow Libby, guess you don’t have enough brains to come up with your own posting so you have to use mine. You were obviously educated in a Govt School….They have trained you well for your job….Would You like Fries with that Shake Sir??? Yep your a total LOSER!! LOL
Libby
March 30th, 2010
8:43 pm
The Truth Hurts is a meany conservative, aren’t you! You can’t take my ObamaCare away from me now, nan nanny boo boo! Hail ObamaGod Hail!
ps. my ObamaGod makes delish KoolAid!
JR Ewing
March 30th, 2010
8:43 pm
Get a life idiot Republicans!
Libby
March 30th, 2010
8:45 pm
The Truth Hurts – truce, lets be friends. Afterall, my ObamaCare will be coming out of your paycheck. It’s like we are going to be connected like family! Kumbaya! Hail ObamaGod!
Tech Man
March 30th, 2010
8:45 pm
Robert W. Patrick @ 8:08
So it’s all or nothing with you on healthcare. There is no better way than Obama’s way. Obamacare does vertually nothing to cut healthcare expenses. Obama has found his universal enemy in the insurance companies. He first tried the doctors which got nowhere as everyone loves their doctor so he picked on the insurance companies. He made them his villian. Health insurance companies are the financial conduit to pay for medical costs. If medical costs go up so do premiums. Medical premiums cannot be reduced unless medical costs are reduced. For example, requiring Rac Trac to lower prices without lowering the cost of a barrel of oil doesn’t work and requiring Rac Trac to tune up your car for the price of gas and still stay in business will result in higher prices.
In the near term you are going to be shocked at the increases. The vast majority of employer and state health plans renewal 1/1, after the fall election (timing is everything), and increases for the new mandates are going to go through the roof.
Strong healthcare reform yes! Obamacare NO!
Libby
March 30th, 2010
8:46 pm
Republicans are responsible and I don’t like them. I hate their Tea, my ObamaGod’s KoolAid is yummy!
michelle
March 30th, 2010
8:48 pm
if this isn’t a LOL moment! what have the republicans been screaming about the healthcare bill this whole time, that it didn’t include tort reform for frivilous lawsuits? pot, have you been introduced to kettle?
Jiggle the Handle
March 30th, 2010
8:49 pm
….ooops…where was I”
oh, yeah…
2) The General Assembly is comprised of:
a) relatively young group of ideologues full of piss and vinegar—these are overwhelmingly Republicans,
b) a large group of reasonably well-off seniors who are having a great time with their “hobby”
c) a sprinkling of true public servants, (on both sides of the aisle), that care about their constituents, and are doing their best, but are woefully outnumbered by Groups a & b.
The point is, you’ve got to get involved or you end up with the current state of affairs. It is not enough to just vote. The legislative offices are swarming with lobbyists. You can’t swing a dead cat on the 3rd floor of the Capitol when the Legislature is in session without smacking a lobbyist in the face.
But they don’t outnumber constituents. They can’t drown out your voice if enough people are pounding their individual representatives in an unrelenting fashion. So get motivated and come with some ideas. It’s not enough to just bitch. And you can’t wait until the General Assembly convenes it’s annual social club. Start being an informed pain in the ass well before.
my $.02
PeterPunkinEater
March 30th, 2010
8:50 pm
Frankly, I love the fact that Thurbert Baker is at the end of this rather idiotic wrath. It’s about time TB figure out who he really is and what is thought about him. Men like he, Micheal Steele and Clarence Thomas spend their entire lives trying to show the majority how “good” they are and that they don’t identify with their people. They kiss up and do the bidding for the powers that be. As long as they are beating their own down it’s all good with the establishment.
But the first time the big house is on fire and they don’t run in there risking their own lives to save the life of the master, they are strung up – reminded of who they really are.
I say GOOD. No… GREAT!
Libby
March 30th, 2010
8:50 pm
I heart ObamaGod. He is giving me ObamaCare. My ObamaGod is getting an Iron Lung for free! Hail ObamaGod, long live ObamaGod!
Tech Man
March 30th, 2010
8:52 pm
Jiggle the Handle
Well stated! The best government is local government. Get involved with your local government.
The Truth Hurts
March 30th, 2010
8:52 pm
Libby yes it will…but i will still have enough let over to buy and sell you a few hundred thousand times..:) .
Libby
March 30th, 2010
8:55 pm
Is the ObamaCare card going to be platninum or black? I vote for black, again!
Libby
March 30th, 2010
8:57 pm
The Truth Hurts is cruel. He is tying to treat me like a slave! You cannot buy and sell ME, my ObamaGod bought me and I am not for sale! Hail ObamaGod Hail!
Tech Man
March 30th, 2010
8:58 pm
Michelle 8:48pm
How does using the court system to settle the division of control of health care between states and the federal government compare with asking for a cap on punitive damages?
Libby
March 30th, 2010
8:59 pm
I bet The Truth Hurts would enjoy some Red KoolAid?
Mugwump
March 30th, 2010
9:00 pm
They sure are giving Baker some prime air time and making him look good. It seems Baker is the only one in the bunch who knows what his job is. I imagine we will see the large back side of Sonny a couple more times. NoOx Noodeal.
Libby
March 30th, 2010
9:03 pm
I am Libby the Liberal! I love KoolAid, I hate Tea! Hail ObamaGod Hail!
Can’t wait for my Black ObamaCare card to come in the mail!
Hail ObamaGod Hail!
goldenapple
March 30th, 2010
9:07 pm
We teach our students to stay on task and focus someone should pass this lesson on to those who make the laws under the gold dome. Focus find away to pay teachers and put money into the state school budget.Stop acting like the Pre K class do your job for this great state or allow some who has the balls to take your place and do it.
Jiggle the Handle
March 30th, 2010
9:07 pm
C’mon on Libby. I’m on you’re side in this. Please make a contribution to the discussion. Otherwise, please wait until we pause for a paid political announcement and then we’ll give you a shout….
Jiggle the Handle
March 30th, 2010
9:14 pm
What can I say? I must have a defective sarcasm detector. LIBBY —no way am I on your side….my bad. On the other hand, I still await a lucid and cogent comment from you.
Killthebull
March 30th, 2010
9:18 pm
The Luckovitch cartoon with all these Republican idiots dressed as clowns in a tiny car trying to pick up a well dressed AG Baker for their circus show with Baker refuseing the ride, says everything about these Republican idiots and their circus politics. Baker has kept his honor while others demean themselves. Georgia may be last in just about everything else but it’s first in political stupidity.
O.M.G.
March 30th, 2010
9:21 pm
The stupid. It hurts.
sharecropper
March 30th, 2010
9:23 pm
You bunch of fools. Don’t you rightwing dingbats get it? The Republican Party is on the verge of taking your Medicare and Social Security under the guise of repealing health care reform. Because if they can get that fool lawsuit before the Supreme Court, then Roberts and his ilk can finally do what Grover Norquist and his bunch of extremists have sought for two decades: the elimination of all entitlement programs. Because if health reform is unconstitutional because of “mandates,” then so too are Medicare and Social Security, both of which mandate participation. What a bunch of ignorant wingnuts you are. Say hello to poverty for you, and your parents. Damn. What stupidity we see from you.
whatamesss
March 30th, 2010
9:24 pm
Stupid Government in GA. I remained ashamed at the small time games in the legislature. Get a grip. Do you think we do not know what a law suit might cost to bring suit against the federal government?? Yeah, do the states rights thing. Go party of “NO”. Idiots.
And, when will you take care of the citizens of GA? Still waiting…
kwonjez Jazdrak
March 30th, 2010
9:30 pm
HANDLE YOUR business Thurbert and DON’T let Perdue and the rest of those racist TEA PARTIERS DEMAND that YOU do anything.WHY don’t yall rednecks GET A LIFE?Baker DOESN’T have to BOWDOWN to yall rednecks,IT’S NOT THE FIFTIES,MF’S.Baker TELL them YARD POSSUMS to KISS YO @$$.The WHITE man DON’T OWN this world,IT BELONGS TO GOD.
hello.life
March 30th, 2010
9:35 pm
Law suit? Do we even have the money for that right now? Answer: Most likely not. Wow great thinking politicians! I’m so glad you care about the funds for education for our future generation.
Racial Politics?: Thurbert Baker, Obama, and the Georgia GOP : Georgia Liberal
March 30th, 2010
9:37 pm
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WAW
March 30th, 2010
9:48 pm
Do ya’ll intend to give out axe handles with yo tea bags? and could you make mine sweet tea and I like that Pickrick Fryd Chicken.
Leaving GA
March 30th, 2010
9:56 pm
Hey Poohbear, Yes, if one doesn’t like living in Georgia there are planes leaving Atlanta every day. I’ll just drive the 5 miles into Chattanooga and be done with it. House is on the market now. Seriously. Ad valorem, income taxes and a dysfunctional state house are not a small part of my reason to leave.
Booker T
March 30th, 2010
9:58 pm
Democrats have had to sit through eight(8) years of Bush and the Republicans force feeding them with BS just because they had the power to do so………………………….Now it’s time for the Republicans to sit back, shut up, open wide and take a big dose of their own damn medicine. Politics is a grown mans game………………… stop whining you big babies :0)
techengineer
March 30th, 2010
10:03 pm
Remove the Obama lackey from office! This health care bill is a pathetic disgrace that needs to repealed immediately! Good job Mr. Hatfield.
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March 30th, 2010
10:06 pm
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Fishawk
March 30th, 2010
10:18 pm
Idiots. We have elected idiots. This is an embarrassment to the state and it’s citizens. I’m ashamed to live here.
Concerned Voter!
March 30th, 2010
10:19 pm
Come on, Rs. Let’s really waste some more money here that we do not have. Get off your A**** and do some real good for our transportation issues and get us out of the depths of the bottom five when it comes to education. Jerks.
Legend of Len Barker
March 30th, 2010
10:25 pm
If I remember Constitutional Law class correctly, this lawsuit would go absolutely nowhere because you cannot sue the federal government. You can sue an individual in the federal government, but not the government itself.
Plus, if you change only a few buzzwords, this sounds exactly like Herman Talmadge’s attempt to block Brown vs. Board of Education in Georgia (seconded by Governor Marvin Griffin).
This is only slightly more entertaining than Jack Kingston complaining about the tax on people getting more than $200,000/$250,000 per year in unearned income under the healthcare plan when his district is the poorest in the state. All but four counties in it (of 25) being below the U.S. poverty line in per capita income.
David
March 30th, 2010
10:31 pm
Should I fail to adhere to policy and procedure where I am employed, I would be insubordinate, and would guess that Thurbert Baker is insubordinate as well! EVERYONE has to play by the rules, of course we know that you Democrats have a problem with the rules!!!
vuduchld
March 30th, 2010
10:39 pm
Hey you deadbeat citizens of Jawja, is this the best you can do, electing a clueless halfwit to drag your state out of it’s doldrums. Is this what you people want, an illerate inbred from that cesspool of south jawja who can’t tie his own shoes.
Your state is bleeding to death, causing the rest of us around the nation to keep you on life support and all you can do is elect fools like this then wonder why you’re in the mess you’re in.
Why should the rest of us support you!? Please, secede from the union, we don’t need your state dragging the rest of us down your slippery slope. You pilgrims can elect any bottom feeder you chose, just don’t have us keep paying for your bad choices!!
TIRED OF PURDUE SICK AS*
March 30th, 2010
10:44 pm
THAT’S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE GOOD OLE BOYS REALIZE THEY DON’T HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF CONTROL THEY HAVE HAD FOR YEARS. THERE COMES A TIME WHEN ALL EVIL DOINGS MUST END. IT’S ANOTHER DAY PEOPLE.
vuduchld
March 30th, 2010
10:50 pm
Hell, you pilgrims in Jawja can’t afford to buy a roll of recycled toilet paper and you want to file a lawsuit aganist the feds! ROFLMAO
Sarah
March 30th, 2010
11:05 pm
The Governor has my support on this one! If the AG isn’t doing his job he needs to go.
Georgian
March 30th, 2010
11:13 pm
God bless this impeachment get this health care out of the state and impeach any ignorAnt man who won’t stand up for states rights and instead supports socialism this man does not deserve to hold office in this great state let alone be a possible govenor
Never Going Back
March 30th, 2010
11:17 pm
I left Atlanta 11 years ago for the free and enlightened side of the Mason-Dixon line and am SO glad I did. Every time I think for a minute about returning, something like this comes out and I know I could never move back there, being free, safe, and surrounded by educated, worldly, and intelligent people here.
Commonsense.....................
March 30th, 2010
11:20 pm
where has It’s use gone? As a lifelong Georgian, I’m embarrassed. Not to say I have’nt been before with the politics of this beautiful state. Too many times to be frank but, this one beats them all. Here we sit ,this state is in the bottom 10 in about everything that counts ” Education” and “THEY” are wasting time, money and energy on this!
I’m a moderate and we have hit rock bottom. Why can’t we all get along and use some COMMON SENSE!!! The world will not come to an end because of this health care bill. Things get done by working together and finding common ground.
Let’s all start working together, by voting them all out office, not just this fall, but every election.Let’s vote for COMMON SENSE.
We can start fresh. Forget Republican / Democrat, both parties fight for special interest, not us. When did politics become a profession? Lastly, tear down the toll booths on GA 400. The road is paid for!
TGT
March 30th, 2010
11:28 pm
The GOP better watch out as the Tea Party might just divide the conservative vote in the future. This bill seems like a silly waste of time. Why can’t legislators be graded like the schools under NCLB! Either make progress or find another line of work! I’m a liberal from Alaska(originally from Georgia), and I can see idiots on both sides of the aisle. Do your job, represent your constituents or find another job!
Commonsense.....................
March 30th, 2010
11:31 pm
What happened to Libby? Called away for another cross burning.
Flo-Ri-Duh!
March 30th, 2010
11:42 pm
I don’t care for any of these pricks – can we get Ross Perot to run for Governor of Georgia. He has common sense and unlike most of these guys he is not out to line his pockets with gold. He’s one of a kind – honest.
Flo-Ri-Duh!
March 30th, 2010
11:45 pm
Atlanta has always looked down it’s arrogant snout at the rest of Georgia but actually Atlanta is the laughing stock…. when, in the last 25 years, has the city government done anything right. Of course, the “people” refuse to get these criminals and cronies out of office because they are scared they will lose their “power”.. What a joke… wake up – thse crooks are screwing you too.
TIRED OF PURDUE SICK AS*
March 31st, 2010
12:19 am
to georgian@11:13…..The majority of the comments posted are in support of Thurgood Baker. At least he’s doing what he was hired to do and that’s HIS JOB. No one can make him make a desicion that he feels has no legal merit. Respect him as the Attorney General. Just because Purdoo-doo is angry at Obama doesn’t mean that Baker has to do what Purdoo-doo says. Purdoo-doo can’t get his baby way all the time.
By the way when will our the Governor get back to the urgent matters that need to be attended to here in Georgia. He’s wasting the tax payers money with this bogus suit.
Hatfield's mama must be so proud
March 31st, 2010
12:26 am
“By failing and refusing to perform his constitutional and statuatry duties . . . .”
Another great example of the value of a Georgia public education. ROFLOL!!!!!! How ’bout you just pass a spelling competency requirement for people who write things that will have the force of law or which will be a part of the historical legacy of the State and leave the real legislation drafting to the smart ones?
Gregh
March 31st, 2010
2:46 am
Looks like Baker needs to be reminded what his constitutional duties are. Thurston Baker is more interested in loyalty to the Democratic party and Obama rather than represent the interests of Georgia’s residents.
tom riley
March 31st, 2010
6:16 am
this is stupid political grandstanding by the republicans. the worst part is that our state cant afford stunts like this. personally. i think we need the reform . however there are already several states that are testing the law . we could easily just sit back an let them do the work an pay the costs of a useless case. if they had an issue with the mandate it could have easily been resolved during the negotiations for the bill. our legislatures let us down by being obstructionsits rather than patriots
Tech man
March 31st, 2010
6:49 am
Tom Riley 6:16
No, you are incorrect. State governments were hardly consulted on the mandate. Of course, after the first couple of years when the federal sweeteners disappear the states are left holding the financial bag.
This was a “pass something” we’ll fix it later that became, oops we have to pass a mess because the Mass election threw the Feds a big knuckleball.
RickyBobby
March 31st, 2010
7:27 am
Will be so glad to get democrap idiots out of office. They are a cancer to society!
Shake and Bake!
Willis
March 31st, 2010
7:27 am
Just another example of how a former great State has become a 2nd rate Mississippi.
howard
March 31st, 2010
7:45 am
This is typical GOP bully tactics…It shows how low the GOP will sink to punish those who take a difference position…who do not toe the line…And to think, just a couple of years ago I was a Republican…I am ashamed to ever have been associated with this kind of politics in America
Libby
March 31st, 2010
8:02 am
“What happened to Libby? Called away for another cross burning.”
I am a liberal. We are shiney, happy people. Hail ObamaGod Hail!
Libby
March 31st, 2010
8:04 am
“C’mon on Libby. I’m on you’re side in this.”
ObamaGod’s KoolAid is delish, isn’t it? I hate Tea!
Hail ObamaGod Hail!
pete
March 31st, 2010
8:18 am
we should call for Sonny purdue to be impeached since the will of the people have spoken, and he has not listened yet and taken georgia in to bankruptcy because he gave the rich and himself tax breaks.He should be fired.I think we should look into all the laws he changed back and forth to help himself.
The Real Politico
March 31st, 2010
8:25 am
Let’s see cuts in education. Bad for the kids and our state. We lose out on federal funds for schools because we didn’t include fully the teachers unions. Bad for the kids and our state. A lawsuit planned by the governor which will cost money but not succeed. Bad for the kids and the state. Lawsuit filed to impeach the Atty. General which will cost money but not succeed. Bad for the kids and the state.
Who’s decisions are hurting the state?
Oh yeah a former Congressman running for Governor under a cloud of ethics irregularities and a Lt. Governor who is stonewalling the investigation.
Who indeed!
pete
March 31st, 2010
8:42 am
Money would be well worth spent to get Purdue out.
Mike
March 31st, 2010
8:42 am
Boot Baker.
A Realist
March 31st, 2010
8:43 am
In this case, the voices of the collective are much wiser than one man, that one man being Thurbert Baker…..all you buffons who insist this is a racist decision are nothing but racists yourselves and are part of the “Political Correctness” idiot syndrome that is ruining our country. The man (Baker) disobeyed a direct order (in the Army, Navy, Marines and Airforce) you can be put in the brig for this act of stupidity. I say “Impeach Now” for the good of our state……let’s join with other states who feel as we do about the ruinious nature of the healthcare bill just signed by Comrade Obama……this nonsense has to stop.
pete
March 31st, 2010
8:54 am
We know who is hurting our state Purdue and the grand ole pu.pa.This is what we get when they let every ederly person in the world retire in your state and they get all the tax breaks and control our communities.
Mugwump
March 31st, 2010
8:55 am
Sonny has his and he doesn’t care a hoot about the damage his rants cause. He is giving Baker a lot of face time on TV and news papers. Baker won the last face off with Sonny and he will win this one also. Baker might win as his ratings just went up.
Libby
March 31st, 2010
9:01 am
“The GOP better watch out as the Tea Party might just divide the conservative vote in the future”
ObamaGod’s KoolAid is a uniter, not a divider! The rainbow of flavors is delish! Hail ObamaGod Hail!
Governor Baker .... really what a joke.
March 31st, 2010
9:02 am
The best cost savings for the State would be to get rid of the Attorney Generals office of misfit so called attorneys and start over. Baker has instilled in this group that it s much better and more cost effective if you ask he defense attorney what it willtake to settle a case before it goes to court or grand jury, regardless of the crime. The entire group of attorneys in the AG’s office are just waiting for retirement without doing anything.
Libby
March 31st, 2010
9:03 am
“Money would be well worth spent to get Purdue out.”
Yes, out with Sunny Purdue!!! I can’t stand her Tea!
Libby
March 31st, 2010
9:09 am
“This is typical GOP bully tactics…It shows how low the GOP will sink to punish those who take a difference position…who do not toe the line…And to think, just a couple of years ago I was a Republican…I am ashamed to ever have been associated with this kind of politics in America”
Yes, the GOP is hateful. All of the nasty Liberal comments on here were made up by Republicans! We Democrats are perfect! We must get to the bottom of all this ugliness. I demand that we find and prosecute those bad conservatives that send hate messages and bricks through windows on Capitol Hill! We liberals demand justice because we are Right, even though we are Left!
Hail ObamGod Hail!
Pete & rePete
March 31st, 2010
9:43 am
Yes, Hatfield and his crowd are idiots…but at least by wasting their last 9 days on stuff like this, they’re not hurting Georgia by passing more bad legislation. As the man said, “there is no problem that the (Georgia) Legislature can not make worse”, so go ahead, Mr. Hatfield, PLEASE spend the next 9 days trying to round up impeachment votes. Fellow Georgians, it is time to CLEAN HOUSE this coming November!
pete
March 31st, 2010
9:43 am
I do not mind or regret a single tax paying dollar that goes to the good of the children and poor in this country or to help our needs in anyway.But it is hard to see all of the money we spend on wars we do not need,lives being taken is a waste.These young men and women needed to be at home 8 yrs ago making our great nation go forward into the future, with new tech and preserve our future, this did not happen.Instead our president then chose war for our future we bought arms and still we are paying for war.So I for one do not mind Ins in this country if it is for the good of my people, yes it does have some problems, but it is a step in the rt direction.McCain and Palin even said we needed health care reform when they were on the campaign trail.Now they want to lie about it.I guess we will keep on conserving in georgia pandering to the rich old because they care nothing about change or how to be humane to one another.
BG
March 31st, 2010
10:11 am
Well, it sounds like my state representatives are doing their job! Perhaps they are attempting to toss him out of office because their constituents are blowing up their phones and filling their inbox demanding that they do everything in their power to stop Obamacare from becoming part of life in Georgia. This includes attacking from several angles to fulfill constituents’ requests – this is just one of them.
Trust me, I think that healthcare reform is needed…but a government takeover is the wrong direction….not to mention illegal. For starters, the notion of providing something like this is something a State would be responsible for handling. If the people of Georgia want government run healthcare, then they should ask for it for Georgia citizens. Secondly….WE ARE BROKE – Washington just can’t get it through their thick heads that this country is COMPLETELY BROKE and they have got to stop spending money. Thirdly, it is completely illegal to REQUIRE that someone purchase a product or service for any reason whatsoever.
This federal government is completely out of control…and I wish the whole lot of them would be replaced. I’m pleased that Georgia is looking out for the rights of its citizens, and taking action based on the wishes of its constituents to protect our freedom.
HR 1866
March 31st, 2010
10:19 am
The House Resolution is actually HR 1866 – not HR1886….other sponsors are: Bobby Franklin (43rd); Barry Loudermilk (14th); Calvin Hill (21st); Sean Jerguson (22nd); then is says “and others.” Who are these “others” and is there a reason they’re embarrassed to put their names on it….why yes, yes, there is! This is yet another sad example of the irresponsibility of our current elected officials in Georgia to do their job – pass a freakin’ budget!!!
GaBlue
March 31st, 2010
10:43 am
Yes, who are the others? I tried to find out how my rep voted, but it’s not posted.
Mugwump
March 31st, 2010
11:10 am
Can it be that Sonny wants to get everyone off on a wild goose chase so they will forget about the ethics and morals issues. As a child I was taught to honor our government officials and to have a respect for the law. Recently I have been heavily burdended to follow my parents advice. Not the law or government, just the respect for the officials. But I forget, they don’t want my respect; just my vote.
NooX Noodeal.
Been Around-Done That
March 31st, 2010
11:24 am
This will guarantee Baker the black vote and the nomination in the Democratic Primary. That is enough to beat out King Rat. Of course Baker will get his butt kicked in the General Election by a Republican. And maybe that is what is really behind the impeachment attempt. Way to go Ralston!
Bob
March 31st, 2010
11:47 am
Dave R., are you assuming that the Honorable AG Baker DID NOT bone up on the Constitution and prior judicial precedents?
The Honorable AG Baker made his decision based upon his knowledge of the law and, his professional opinion, to pursue this lawsuit was folly and a waste of resources. He knows that this Federal law will be ruled constitutional, if nothing else but under the rubric of interstate commerce when health insurers cover hospital care of a non-resident patient (Hospital in NC and the patient is from GA for example). Money changes hands across state lines and that is interstate commerce.
This effort to impeach the Honorable AG Baker is not only silly but erodes the credibility of any representative that supports such a move.
I also implore all of the people that live in the 13 counties of the Atlanta Metro area to unite and support the good of all of Georgia but not to the exclusion of Atlanta as it is being done today. It is about time that the rest of Georgia realize that improving the Atlanta area means improving the whole of Georgia. As Atlanta’s fortunes go so do the rest of Georgia’s fortunes. I know that if my employer did not locate to the Atlanta area, they would not be in Georgia at all. My choices to live is not between the Atlanta area and another Georgia city, it is between Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville or Washington DC. For me is it the Atlanta area or nothing in Georgia.
Die Hard Dem
March 31st, 2010
12:10 pm
To everyone who has posted that they are FED UP with the GOP:
VOTE THEM OUT IN NOVEMBER. I have already made plans to take the day off to ensure that I will be able to vote. DO WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO DO TO GET THEM OUT.
A Realist
March 31st, 2010
12:17 pm
Bob, are you really that gullible? I would think a more feasable scenario would be that the White House got to him.
Over the Brink | Progressive Fix
March 31st, 2010
12:22 pm
[...] via lawsuits reached a new crescendo in Georgia yesterday, when Republicans in the state House introduced articles of impeachment against Georgia Attorney General Thurbert Baker. You see, Baker (a Democrat) refused to join [...]
Bob
March 31st, 2010
12:24 pm
Tech Man, no one is forcing you to go to the doctor either. If you don’t want to pay for such stuff then life in a self-sufficient compound out in the North Georgia mountains. No, wait a minute, you are still forced to pay property tax on that compound as well including any income tax on all income.
Well, I guess you can’t win. At least with auto, health, and home insurance you can control the cost of them as opposed to a tax which is mandatory. I don’t think you are advocating we pay mandatory additional taxes for auto, health, and home protections like they do in the UK Nanny state, right?
Tech man
March 31st, 2010
12:41 pm
Bob @ 12:24
I am sorry, I don’t follow your objections to what I have written. Are you objecting to the State of Georgia asking for judicial opinion if they have to enact Obamacare?
Tech man
March 31st, 2010
1:02 pm
Bob @ 12:24
If you are talking about premium rates and covering pre-existing conditions my point is Pelosi and crew sold their “fix” as making health care affordable. Covering pre-existing conditions will raise prices which is the direct opposite of “affordable”.
I have no problem with pre-existing conditions being covered, in fact I am for it, however, there is a cost involved.
Mugwump
March 31st, 2010
2:02 pm
If it comes down to a choice between Baker versus OX or Deal, not less than a few voters will cast their eyes away from the “I’s” and “R’s”. As a result of the financial mess more voters are paying attention to what is going on now. The old smoke and mirrors will be seen through. The voters are looking for leaders with morals and ethics. Those with heavy baggage need not apply. NoOX NoDeal.
Dawg On It
March 31st, 2010
3:02 pm
The inability for all of us to have an intelligent policy conversation and the propogation of misinformation is the cornerstone of what is wrong with our political system. I don’t care about an individual’s opinion, only that we can have a conversation without supposition, innuendo, lies, and threats. I’m completely open to the idea that the Act is wrong, but only if someone convinces me using arguments and facts, which seems woefully unlikely right now in our country.
John
March 31st, 2010
7:01 pm
Hey Dave R. I admit I am not from Georgia, but you need to read the bill. In no part of the bill does the government engage in actual commerce. In no part of the bill does the US Government engage in “taking over” health care, they are acting well within their power to regulate. That is the problem with most republicans they do not fully consider the consequences of their actions. Before the 80s and Reagan beginning the process of removing banking regulations, there were no bank failures between the 30s and the 80s, since the 80s there have been a multitude of bank failures. Here we are in the first decade of the new century and our economy almost collapses because the banking industry will not play fair when left to its own devices. You sir need to bone up on your history as well as constitutional law, of which Obama was a professor, You really should consider that.
Suki
March 31st, 2010
11:34 pm
What a complete moron Purdue is. Wasting time and energy on an impeachment, instead of focusing on the Georgia budget that is in the toilet.
Suki
March 31st, 2010
11:37 pm
To Techengineer: You have got to be kidding, right? Federal law supercedes State law, didn’t you know? The healthcare bill is here to stay despite the Ga. republicans.
Suki
March 31st, 2010
11:50 pm
To Techman, Local government? They are a joke, too. LOL All of Georgia is a joke and an embarassment. Go to any other progressive state and tell them where you are from. Watch the looks on their faces and the chuckles. I am not proud to be a Georgian right now.
Suki
March 31st, 2010
11:53 pm
One more thing, Go on tea partyists, keep on going. You are ripping the GOP apart. and that means bad news for you in the next election. LMAO
politicsislife
April 1st, 2010
9:28 am
I have voted for both Republicans and Democrats in this state, and as an Afican – American woman to vote for a Republican is quite unusual. Well, I don’t see it happening again for a long time! All of this feigned outrage by the conservatives about the tyranny of the federal government sounds like the
“Jim Crow” days from not so long ago! Many of these legislators represent people ( WHITES) that healthcare reform will help, ( i.e. pre-exisiting conditions, medicare recipients ( which is GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTHCARE), dropping you off of insurance if you get sick, losing insurance if you are laid off, are against healthcare. They aren’t concerned about budget dieficits because this lawsuit will cost, and the attempt to BULLY Thurbert Baker is plain WRONG! Just like the civil rights marchers fought people like those idiots before; we won’t let your prejudice win this time either.
Raie King
April 1st, 2010
10:00 am
There is a reserve fund that could be utilized to save our failing school districts. However, the state would rather spend time on impeaching an Attorney General. When is enough enough!!! Education should come first. But In Georgia if you don’t do what I say then you are out!
Gotcha
April 1st, 2010
12:56 pm
Abuse of power, Waxman now calls companys to Capitol Hill so he can explain marxist math. States will now have burden with all the people added to Medicaid . Impeach this fool in Georgia. Most of this country wanted jobs and Dems. are still trying to sell this screwed up healthcare bill. We were promised 3 to 4 million greenie jobs yet 79% of the 2.1 billion in the spendulus for wind energy has gone to other countries. For years Dems have demonized oil companys and now what, its drill baby drill. Well guess what fool, most cars still run on gas. Even your bicycle chain needs a little oil. Its hard to believe so many fell for all of the lies, and now if you want all this socialism why dont you move. There are plenty of countries that have it already. Just more Hope A Dope lies. This man said he was going to unite this country, what bull!
Gotcha
April 1st, 2010
1:30 pm
To Suki, yes go to Michigan and tell them where you are from. They have seen first hand how Dems and unions have destroyed jobs and cities like Detroit. Or go to California, they welcomed me fool. Social programs and social justice have run it into the ground. They are broke = no money, high unemployment. My nefew went to apply for a job at the fire department and scored the highest on the test and was told sorry your not the right color. Maybe they didnt have their quota of minorities. I have never had problems with insurance companys. Now anyone that stands in their way or has a different opinion is demonized.
Suki
April 2nd, 2010
12:55 am
Instead of taking care of busines ( like fixing the highways, bridges, aging sewer systems, schools and education) the fools are trying this bs impeachment issue. Don’t our Republican politicians have anything better to do than waste time over this insanity? I guess not. Stupid, stupid, stupid, you can’t fix “stupid”.
A welcome spotlight on the AG election | Kyle Wingfield
April 2nd, 2010
7:02 pm
[...] the case, while Georgia legislators are pursuing both a resolution directing Baker to file suit and articles of impeachment based on his [...]
Larry Gooden
April 4th, 2010
4:58 pm
After reading some of this blog and taking notice of the mud slinging: left against right and right against left; I am not encouraged that we as a society can expect anything good to come from this.
I personally want to be part of the solution and not part of the problem, but I am angry and tired of those who believe that some one else owes them something. The Government of this great nation historically has been a government of the people, for the people and by the people. A democracy where the majority rule, but the American population needs to open their eyes and look around and see that those in power are ignoring the will of the majority (see current polls which they love when they favor them but now despise because they are contrary to them). Those in power should be representing that which is in the best interest for American and the American people. If the American people will just step back and take a look at what is going on; there are those in power who are dividing this country, polarizing its population and creating rifs that will not be easy to heal. If they continue these kinds of politics we will be driven to test the metal of our convictions and we will find out who has the will and the might to stand. When that time comes where will we be.
When we refuse to learn from history then we are bound to repeat the lessons we failed to learn from that history. I am not going to whine and cry over those who refuse to be responsible for themselves, but I intend to do everything with in my power to take care of my family and that which God has granted me power to possess and have influence over. My best advice for all of you who expect to survive this madness is to do the same.
If we had a US treasury with billions of funds stashed away then it would be foolish not to spend it for the health and welfare of our citizens, but it is totally irresponsible for our elected officials to spend funds that we do not have and especially during a time when multitudes are without jobs and many are losing and in doubt of whether their jobs will last.
I am shocked at the masses of American citizens that see nothing wrong this! If it is wrong for the average citizen to open a bank account and only deposit enough capital to get the account open and then to start writing checks like the only limit is the sky; then it is wrong for the Federal Government to do this and the Federal government is not only mis-representing the living constituents but they are mis-representing those yet to be born who would like to have a voice in their own future and not have the current Federal Government mortgage their future to bankroll the foolishness of those who refuse to take responsible care of themselves and who are inclined to ask what the government can do for them, rather than asking what they can do for their government and still believe that they are in anyways a part of the solution.
We are in deep trouble when the multitudes have been persuaded to think that those who tell them just what they want to hear and promising them every thing they want are people worthy of their allegiance.
People that really love and have our best interest at heart will love us enough to tell us the hard truth and show us how to deal with reality rather than leading us astray with their lies and deception which has been spun and woven into such a surreal fantasy that it is near impossible not to believe it.
Please wake up America before it is too late and deal with the responsible truth that will deliver us from this evil and set us free from the deception of political lies power hungry politicians who do not care for the American people and our liberties and freedoms.
Julie
April 7th, 2010
2:10 pm
So glad that I do not live in Metro Atlanta – I’m a real Georgian. Why are you people talking pot holes in Atlanta? That’s got NOTHING to do with the state (unless it’s on a state road), that’s your CITY and COUNTY – call your mayor.
This issue is about the HCR, how many of you actually read it or any part of it? Even if you haven’t read it surely you understand that people should not be forced to buy any product or service just because they are alive. Yes, I think people should be more responsble for themselves, but you don’t do that by creating more entitlement programs for the users and abuses to take advantage of.
I think Mr. Baker’s decison was bases on his political aspirations. He should have remembered he works for the people of Georgia (not the DNC) and you people need to remember that Atlanta government and Georgia government is seperate. Atlanta has it’s own attorney. Mr. Baker works for the people of the state of Georgia. If we can by pass him that’s great – as far as the cost you people are complaining about – there are already firms willing to work pro-bono, so that’s really a non-issue.
Mr. Baker should be impeached because he is not doing the job he was elected to do – represent Georgia.
If he isn’t impeached that’s fine with me too. I’m not worried about him winning the governors’ race. He’s shown the people of Georgia that he cares more about his political career than the state.
All the issues ya’ll keep talking about – roads, schools, transportaion, etc. well in case you’ve missed it we are in the midst of an economic crises, cuts have to be made.
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