‘I nicked the census man.’ ‘There’s a good boy.’

We’re starting to see some worry that anti-Washington sentiment may be hurting conservative states in the census. This from the Houston Chronicle:

As of Friday afternoon, only 27 percent of Texas households had filled in and returned their census forms — well below the national average of 34 percent — according to computer data from the U.S. Census Bureau….

Contrary to historical trends, some of the toughest challenges facing the agency responsible for measuring the nation’s population are not from counting the traditionally undercounted groups such as African-Americans and Latinos. Instead, a new and growing threat to an accurate national head count is coming from anti-government conservatives who may not fill out their forms to protest against “Big Brother” in Washington.

“There’s a general distrust of the federal government at every level, starting with Congress and the president, all the way down to executive branch agencies,” says Rep. Mike Conaway, R-Midland.

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210 comments Add your comment

wesleywhatwhat

March 29th, 2010
12:43 pm

that will show ‘em!

Ben

March 29th, 2010
12:46 pm

So the best way to show Washington what you think is to decrease your representation in it? Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

Cutty

March 29th, 2010
12:49 pm

They should say no more about following the Constitution then, since a 10 year headcount is expressed there. Nice job guys!

GaBlue

March 29th, 2010
12:49 pm

mike

March 29th, 2010
12:59 pm

It is good to see the idiot conservatives finally doing something right. Lets not fill out the census since it only hurts those populations who are eventually under counted and then under representative. What more can the rest of America ask for. They don’t appear to be to smart but I guess they have it all figured out.

Moderate

March 29th, 2010
1:17 pm

If some of you with predispositions would actually listen and read, few people are advocating boycotting the census (even though it’s arguable that Presbo’s highjacking of the census process is suspect). Rather the writer points to a real problem…i.e. that a significant part of the productive working population in this country has a new and deeper distrust of and animosity toward the current government.

Ben

March 29th, 2010
1:27 pm

Moderate: that’s not a new phenomenon. It’s just that now they have their very own 24-hour network.

Doug

March 29th, 2010
1:48 pm

@moderate How has the President highjacked the census process? Since the President is supposed to be an “empty suit” and reads from a teleprompter how is it that he that he has so many wingnuts giving him “credit” for changing so much in America in just 14 months?

TAC

March 29th, 2010
1:49 pm

Well, instead of giving them 15 (or whatever) Representatives, let’s give them the 3 that the Census says they should have. That seems to be what they want.

Old Hippie

March 29th, 2010
1:58 pm

It is pretty obvious that most of these tea baggers are not very bright. If they want to defy the Constitution and not be counted, and then end up being under-represented in Congress, the state legislatures, and local government, I’m all for it.

kitty

March 29th, 2010
2:16 pm

So much for actually following the Constitution as the right wing nuts keep spouting. I bet they haven’t even read the Constitution or the bright ones would know better. But that is great. There will now be fewer right wing loons in DC due to their own idiocy. Too funny. I love how they outsmarted themselves this time.

TK

March 29th, 2010
2:17 pm

Old Hippie I personally object to the constitution being thrown down as a mat every time some lib or conservative gets their butt in a wad. My form will go back in with exactly how many people live in the home. That’s all the information they need, and I believe it’s all that is required by the Constitution.

Bob

March 29th, 2010
2:19 pm

You screw ups! No one would complain if a “head count” was all that was being asked. What a bunch of freaking liberal lying hypocrite losers. You don’t give a damn about the Constitution, until it might possibly provide some justification for the commiefication of these United States.

Ben

March 29th, 2010
2:33 pm

Oddly enough, the Constitution does not simply provide for a headcount. It provides for an enumeration “such manner as they shall by Law direct.” We have, by law, directed the 10 questions to be answered by all persons. In fact, the very first census in 1790, overseen by the same folks who wrote the Constitution, had questions about race, gender, and economic position. So, no, the total number of people living in a household is not the only piece of information required by the Constitution to be returned, and I think you’d have to be either very paranoid or very self-important to think there is risk in answering the rest.

deegee

March 29th, 2010
2:34 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHA! I knew the minute I opened up that census form that the anti-government crowd would throw it in the trash! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Art Vandalay

March 29th, 2010
2:58 pm

Why are they so scared to fill out questions about race? Scared of too many “Brown people?” hate to break it to Texas but if they are scared of a foreign invasion threatning the American way of life Texas would be ground zero, is english even spoken there anymore, Census or not all you have to do is go there and look. The funniest part is they dont realize not turning in their forms distorts the numbers even more against them than they actually are.

Craig

March 29th, 2010
3:14 pm

I think Ben has access to my Facebook…he said almost word for word what I’ve said before….

kindergarden math

March 29th, 2010
3:31 pm

Jim : I appreciate the reference to Pete’s nephew in “O Brother, Where Art Thou ? ” in the title of your article. That is one of the funniest movies ever made.

The Snark

March 29th, 2010
3:41 pm

BEN:

Oddly enough, the Constitution most certainly does call for a census. As amended by the 14th Amendment, Article 1 Section 2 reads:

“Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct.”

ATL

March 29th, 2010
4:03 pm

Of course the Constitution calls for a Census– geez the right-wing loonies can deny the sky is blue or the earth is round (or claim that the President is an alien communist)– still doesn’t make it so…
I say give ‘em an island in the Pacific– call it the Isle of Loon and watch them go extinct in their no tax, laissez faire, every man for himself kingdom, and be done with it…

Ben

March 29th, 2010
6:34 pm

The Snark:
Right. It very definitely calls for a census. But it is not only limited to a simple head count. The framers made very clear that it was up to the Congress to set the manner in which the census would be taken and what exactly would be asked. That was my point.

Ben

March 29th, 2010
6:38 pm

ATL:
I think there was a book written about that once…something about flies and lords or something…

This is Mrs. Norman Maine

March 29th, 2010
8:24 pm

lolololololololol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *deep breath* LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good ole Boy

March 29th, 2010
9:11 pm

Ain’t fillin’ no govment forms out, I want my racist, sexist, homophobic, bigoted….Country back…sure ’nuff

Arlo

March 29th, 2010
9:20 pm

Where were these people when W was trying to sell our ports to Dubai, or when we went to war based on faulty intelligence, or when Cheney & Rove were outing CIA agent’s, or when the Bin Laden family was allowed to leave the U.S. on 911, or …….

Real Athens

March 29th, 2010
9:20 pm

What did you expect? It’s Texas.

KA

March 29th, 2010
9:22 pm

The Census form asks its questions prefaced by as of April 1, 2010… It’s not April 1, 2010, and I am not filling it out until then, maybe.

WindyOklahomaTexasSucks

March 29th, 2010
9:22 pm

Do these people not know that Ludacris might show up?

Wake Up Georgia!

March 29th, 2010
9:27 pm

Texas conservatives will not send back their Census forms and Georgians have a low percentage of people getting the H1N1 vaccine as a new wave of sickness hits. Wow! What smart people we are in the South?

GTJohn

March 29th, 2010
9:33 pm

When states start seceding from the union, maybe then all you liberal hypocrites will start noticing that everything is not free and that stealing from people who work to give to people who do not, have not and will not is totally unacceptable.
It’s the old ant and grasshopper tale only now it you Obama bots versus the working people in this country. I agree with Sarah, we are not going to just sit down and shut up.

Trey

March 29th, 2010
9:38 pm

Wake Up Georgia!, who cares about the H1N1 vaccine? Geez, you people act like H1N1 is going to be the end of the human population. There are worse things out there than H1N1, I only got mine because it was required where I was stationed.

Also, there is no real point to skip out on the census form.

KA

March 29th, 2010
9:39 pm

GTJohn, Amen, to your comments, but I can’t wait for secession, I am making plans to emigrate.

KA

March 29th, 2010
9:45 pm

To Wake Up Georgia! Really????!!! You think that returning the census form has anything to do with whether you will catch the H1N1 flu? Honey, keep your hands washed, cough and sneeze into your sleeve, and eat your veggies, and you will be OK.

Trey

March 29th, 2010
9:46 pm

GTJohn, the health care is a repeat of the past ;) violation of states rights. If the states secede from the health care and this, maybe the south could have a decent president :)

Kev

March 29th, 2010
9:49 pm

“When states start seceding from the union, maybe then all you liberal hypocrites will start noticing that everything is not free and that stealing from people who work to give to people who do not, have not and will not is totally unacceptable.”

And conservatives call liberals unpatriotic. Isn’t secession illegal and a form a treason?

Kev

March 29th, 2010
9:52 pm

“GTJohn, Amen, to your comments, but I can’t wait for secession, I am making plans to emigrate.”

To where? Unless you plan on living in a third-world country you’ll be moving to a country that has much more “socialism” than the US could ever have.

Where You Stay, Man?

March 29th, 2010
9:59 pm

The statist libs only care about the Constitution when convenient.

They pick and choose based on their cause du jour (a little French lingo for you Western European-style nanny government aficionados).

Don’t like the First Amendment? Why there’s the “Fairness Doctrine”.

Don’t like the Second Amendment? Just confiscate the firearms.

Want to require that people buy health insurance (or the product WE deem you should buy?), no problem–we’ll send a few of the IRS’s 16,000 new agents to ensure you make the right decision.

I’m still searching for the part where Census respondents are required to list their race, whether their home is owned “free and clear”, their phone number, etc.

blackbird13

March 29th, 2010
10:02 pm

I think part of the fear of the Census is that it is going to show in hard numbers what many of the tea-party types already sense: White people are closer to no longer being a majority than current projections indicate.

I don’t mean that to be a hostile statement. Fear is an instinct that has an evolutionary purpose and to condemn it is to condemn part of what makes us human. But this fear will not serve to advance the species; it is merely the paroxysms of a dying cohort (note the average age of the crowds at the tea party rallies).

David Hoffman

March 29th, 2010
10:10 pm

There is a real 2010 census problem that no one is talking about. The United States Postal Service and the Census people have failed to have enough forms delivered early enough so that citizens can fill them out on time. I live in Warner Robins, GA and if there is a 2010 Census going on, you would not know it by the few forms that have been delivered. The Census people and the USPS are glad most people are paying attention to those who are returning partially completed Census forms in protest of some imaginary evil. It means no one is asking where are all the census forms that should have been delivered by now.

bart

March 29th, 2010
10:12 pm

My God, we in the south are a bunch of ignorant rednecks. Why don’t all you jerks join your idol Limbaugh and go to Costa Rica? Then the IQ level of the South will go up considerably.

Sam Houston

March 29th, 2010
10:16 pm

The great Republic of Texas will not participate in the US Census…we have suceeded from the Union.

Reality

March 29th, 2010
10:23 pm

Love it! I hope that Texas ends up with the same number of representatives as Rhode Island. LOL!!!!

KA

March 29th, 2010
10:27 pm

To blackbird13, What exactly do you think is a Tea Party type? Tea Party members are no different than the anti war activists in the 60’s and 70’s, citizens who stood up and let their opinions be heard, and that’s the American Way. We should respect each others’ opinions, listen and learn from each other. Tea Partiers are just independent thinkers, responsible, working Americans. The Tea Party protests and the anti Census rhetoric has nothing to do with RACE as you want to portray it. Democrat members of Congress and the Senate and their leaders, Pelosi and Reid, are mostly White Folks in case you haven’t noticed. Open your eyes to the fact that the Democrat led federal government is hijacking our economy. I am decamping for an ex-pat job abroad in a developed nation. You can stay and pay more and get less. (and … ‘paroxysms of a dying cohort’, are you serious, or just seriously impressed with your thesaurus?)

Avery

March 29th, 2010
10:33 pm

If the “Red States” secede, they will be receiving foreign aid from the UN in a few years. Most “blue states” are net donors of federal aid, and most “red states” are net recipients. Whoops. So much for that evil government.

MBW

March 29th, 2010
10:36 pm

Of course, what will happen is that the right-wingers will end up being underrepresented by the census….and then they’ll have a whole new conspiracy to freak out about.

Lulu

March 29th, 2010
10:37 pm

There may be a correlation but it isn’t because of a desire to avoid sending in the form. As usual with such documents (I run into it often) the people making out the form don’t pay attention to what it says. They throw in these little quasi glitches and literate people read it and try to follow it. Then get called a “conservative” Backlash. NOTE: The census asks for the name of everyone staying in your house April 1. With a family as laarge and diverse as mine… I seriously won’t know that until April 1. So if you want the form mailed before April 2, don’t put that in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Billy Bob from cobb

March 29th, 2010
10:37 pm

Do you people even realize how much wealth is leaving the us? Rich people did’nt get that way from being stupid and lazy. Yes there are places one can go to get away from socialism. Obama hood winked this country and is now only trying steal as much as he can before he is voted out. I am starting to think the cool aid drinkers on this site are really acorn plants. Its hard to think this many people could be this stupid. there again a lot of people followed Jim jones too. The demo’s should get on there knees every night and thank god for government schools. They fatten these sheep for the slaughter

vuduchld

March 29th, 2010
10:42 pm

I sure hope they undercount themselves. I filled out my form one week after I received it and mailed it back the next day. Why should my federal tax dollars go to a state that doesn’t want to be part of our nation. I say we pull everything, all of our federal resources out of there and let them fend off the drug cartel themselves. We sure as heck don’t need them fools!!

Billy Bob from cobb

March 29th, 2010
10:48 pm

Sorry, I forgot that they don’t belive in god. I guess they can thank allah.

vuduchld

March 29th, 2010
10:50 pm

KA

I AM a responsible, tax paying, US citizen but I’m sure as hell ain’t no teabeggar. Why? Because you folks are full of bs with your right wing drivel. BTW, the KA’s I remember in school was the frat could never seem to get enough black polish on their faces. If you are one of them rich, penny loafer wearin, Jim Daniel drinkin KA Klanners, them we know you’re full of it!!!