Thurbert Baker’s answer to Sonny Perdue: Health care lawsuit a waste of money
Attorney General Thurbert Baker, a Democratic candidate for governor, has rejected Gov. Sonny Perdue’s demand that he join a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the new health care reform law.
Read the entire thing here. But this is the meat:
Based upon my understanding of the current Act, I am unaware of any constitutional infirmities and do not think it would be prudent, legally or fiscally, to pursue such litigation. I must therefore respectfully decline your request.
While I understand that the new law is the subject of ongoing debate here in Georgia and around the nation, I do not believe that Georgia has a viable legal claim against the United States. Considering our state’s current severe budgetary crisis, with vital services like education and law enforcement being cut deeply, I cannot justify a decision to initiate expensive and time-consuming litigation that I believe has no legal merit.
In short, this litigation is likely to fail and will consume significant amounts of taxpayers’ hard-earned money in the process.
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Churchill's MOM
March 24th, 2010
3:05 pm
RetiredSoldier 2:59 pm
Yesterday you couldn’t afford to run against that big spender Johnny Isakson, now you are willing to throw away $50,000.00 of our tax money. Waste is waste let the other states with better attorneys carry the burden.
TC
March 24th, 2010
3:12 pm
UPSET Retired Teacher:
Thank you for your service educating our children. That being said…no one forced you to be a (low income) teacher. You chose that course for your life. Providing free health care isn’t part of the Constitution. I work very hard to provide for my family, and providing health care is part of it. I agree that it is VERY expensive, but it is not the governments job to provide it for me. The people that this bill is intended to help already have health care in the form of medicaid/medicare/etc. It is just a way to grow the federal government, and will go down in history as one of the most expensive entitlement programs. You say you don’t want my money to pay for your medication, etc…but that is exactly what is going to happen. So your welcome in advance.
retiredds
March 24th, 2010
3:13 pm
500k, I think you or someone like you posted your misinformed blog elsewhere. I am one of the low life Obama supporters you must be speaking to. However, I need to correct a few errors in your account: I am almost retired (two more months) after working for the last 50 years. I began work at age 18. I have owned four houses during that time. My current home is free and clear when I reached 65 as that was part of my long term financial plan. I have two modest pensions from the global corporations I worked for and I am collecting Social Security which I paid into over 47 years of working for a living. I don’t recall anyone bailing me out of anything although my dad did help me (about $1,500) come up with a down payment for my first house. On all my real estate I used fixed rate mortgages, one at 11.75% in the early 80’s, as I don’t like floating rate debt. I always kept my mortgage debt to less than 25% of my net income. I have put two kids through college. I paid their tuition and they paid for any expenses over that, i.e. rent, food, etc. I wanted them to be financially invested in their education. I contribute about 15% of my income to various charities that my wife and I choose to support. I am a Boy Scout leader even though my son aged out almost 3 years ago. My liabilities today are less than 3% of my net income. When I reach 70 that debt will be -0- by design. My investments have done very well (I sold a lot when the market hit 13,500 after peaking above 14,000 and reentered the market made many purchases when it began its rise last March and April around the 6800 level. My stocks are much less a percentage of my investment portfolio now by design and age. They represent only 25% of my investments. I have always had a balanced portfolio of stocks, bonds, insurance, and savings (always keep 1 year’s amount of living expenses in savings just in case).
Well, I’ve opined enough. I am positive I haven’t persuaded you that any Obama supporters are nothing but, as you say, ” You are poor because you make bad decisions in life, are too lazy to work hard, and too sorry to get a good education.” As someone replied to you it might have been instructive if you had met a few Obama supporters before you created the prototype in your mind. Oh, I forgot to address your last one, I usually formally sign correspondence with my educational achievement: PhD.
RetiredSoldier
March 24th, 2010
3:15 pm
Pete-
No for the rest of the story. There are a number of people complaining about the Mass program, but more importantly is this. The cost estimates were very very wrong and is about to put Mass under financially.
RetiredSoldier
March 24th, 2010
3:16 pm
Mom-
Well I guess I just lost your vote. Spending money for a good purpose is ok by me.
NoPriceOnLiberty
March 24th, 2010
3:17 pm
Pete, I hate to burst your bubble but Massachusetts has the most expensive family premiums in the country. Don’t believe me? Please turn to the Boston Globe:
http://www.boston.com/news/health/articles/2009/08/22/bay_state_health_insurance_premiums_highest_in_country/
NoPriceOnLiberty
March 24th, 2010
3:22 pm
Hazel, I almost don’t know where to begin….”individual liberty, free markets, and constitutionally limited government” So, freedom is a Republican value? I honestly thought that was applicable to all Americans. If not freedom, what do you value?
RetiredSoldier
March 24th, 2010
3:24 pm
Retire-
Now that we know you are a PhD it makes sense you voted Obama. Terminal degree holders are much more likely to vote democratic.
ACC 12 Booster
March 24th, 2010
3:26 pm
The new healthcare law SHOULD definitely be challenged on the basis that it forces individuals (the public) to buy a product/service from private companies. One does not necessarily have to be a law scholar to figure out that the constitutionality of that mandate is highly questionable.
Maccadave
March 24th, 2010
3:27 pm
A waste of money? Sounds like the only thing we are wasting money on is your salary. Thurbert, you don’t see it as unconstitutional? Did you get your law degree from Express Lube and Law Degree? The only way it is constitutional is if you are in the Soviet Union. You were elected, and took an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States, not the one of your choice. It was pretty much specific in the oath.
As long as you have been in office, maybe you forgot that. You will sure remember it when you are run out of office after losing the next election. Sounds like a crock of partisan garbage to me.
Be honest, is it a race thing? Healthcare is SOCIALISM. The last time I check the USA was a REPUBLIC that is based on representation. The majority is not being represented, we are being railroaded into having more of our money go for entitlements while we shoulder the burden of higher insurance rates in the near future.
In the words of Joe Biden, “This is F#%&*@g big!!!” With the stroke of 21 pens, our president, (dictator) has single handedly set the Constitution on fire in the name of what? Making a name for himself? What an arrogant self serving opportunist is he, Pelosi and Reid. Do you really want to associate yourself with that Thurbert? If so, more power to you. I hope you enjoy having socialized medicine taking care of you when your stint as AG comes to an end after the next election.
Virginia
March 24th, 2010
3:33 pm
Outrageous & Matilda: you are both my new heroes!! You stated it perfectly, it’s all about hate, sour grapes because they’re not on top anymore, and race. Nothing more. And yet, change HAS come to America and I’m loving every minute of it!! You Haters – Deal with it, y’all.
POed
March 24th, 2010
3:37 pm
Good for Perdue,
The constitutionality of the recently passed “healthcare” bill in Washington, D.C. is seriously in question.
(AKA ObamaCare).
In the first place, I presumed that our state Attorney General would automatically do it since it is blatantly unconstitutional to require me to buy something.
I mean, EVEN Washington State is doing it.
Silly me.
What is wrong with him?
Like many Americans, I have been following this debate closely.
Perhaps more than most.
I am well aware of the accounting tricks, cuts to Medicare and the real purpose behind passing it.
Passing that bill was about power, not improving my health.
In the second place, the fact that this bill requires to additional hiring of 12000 to 17000 IRS agents at a cost of 5 to 10 billion dollars tells me all I need to know about the bill.
David Fry
March 24th, 2010
3:39 pm
Baker just lost the election!
mike
March 24th, 2010
3:40 pm
Reagan was in favor of making Social Security benefits voluntary..America deeply depend on it….where would we be if he had.
Bush was in favor of partial privatization of social security which would have been under a punzi scheme…hum…Let Obama bump his head ,we dont have to vote for him in 2012…But name calling and spitting on Congress men was going to far…spit on a cop and watch what happen….No wonder other countries dont respect us anymore..We
dont respect our selves…What ever happen to Unitied we stand,divided
we fall…Thats why we are falling…Just like Rome and other super powers
Maccadave
March 24th, 2010
3:40 pm
Virginia, Outradeous and Matilda, Let me ask you one question? Are you willing to allow the government to run your lives? If so, enjoy the loss of freedom. They say ignorance is bliss, not when your freedom is being taken away because of the stupid desire to remain ignorant. This isn’t a question of people having sour grapes because the “republicans aren’t in control.” It is concern over whether or not we are going to wake up in the USA or the USSA. Get your heads on straight and quit giving Obama Carte Blanche with your income, and your lives. He should be impeached for not honoring the Oath of Office to protect the Constitution on the United States of America.
Maccadave
March 24th, 2010
3:42 pm
Mike,
Hazel
March 24th, 2010
3:43 pm
Cato is hardly a disinterested player. They have historically sided with the Republican views of government. Cato may not be a mouthpiece, but, they hew much more to the GOP talking points of the day than the dreaded Liberal Media does to the Democrats.
Freedom is, like patriotism, a human value. Dems don’t usually claim to have the exclusive use of the word. “True Americans” doesn’t show up in their communications.
RetiredSoldier
March 24th, 2010
3:44 pm
Virginia-
Don’t paint all with one brush. I don’t hate Obama, I disagree with his policies. Sour grapes? Ya’ll wrote the sour grapes book after the 200 election. Race, not for me, look at what I posted at 2:27.
The deal is libs are snobs, they think anyone who disagrees with them is somehow inferior. Well like Retire, I’m fairly well educated, been around the world and have a defined belief system. I’m not stupid/dumb/racist/hater. Get over it, people disagree with you.
Maccadave
March 24th, 2010
3:45 pm
That is Ponzi, Mike. You also mention Social Security, Reagan was right on that one. First of all, it is a failure. This nationalized healthcare system will see the same demise faster than Social Security is. The feds do not know how to balance a budget. All they do is tax borrow and spend, needing more money from We The People to pay the millions and millions in interest. Please, stay away from the polls if you don’t understand that. Save your nation by not voting.
RetiredSoldier
March 24th, 2010
3:47 pm
The CATO institute is liberterian, so the driving force is limited gov and max freedom. That is conservative in some things and liberal in other.
Thurbert...Try Google
March 24th, 2010
3:52 pm
I thought I would help the AG out. Here is some reading material he can use to understand why the health insurance mandate is outside the reach of the commerce clause and a violation of our individual liberties.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2009/12/Why-the-Personal-Mandate-to-Buy-Health-Insurance-Is-Unprecedented-and-Unconstitutional
He won’t take the fed to court because the court ruled in favor of the Mass/RomneyCare individual mandate? Hey Thurbert, I’m not a big shot lawyer like you but even I know that the FEDERAL government is limited by the enumerated powers under Section 1 article 8 (and 9) of the constitution. Therefore, just because the STATE government can mandate everyone to have insurance, that is completely separate from what the FED can do.
Also, you won’t challenge the FED because of the state budget deficit? Have you thought of what will happen to the debt if the state has to take on even more spending mandated under this law? Have you been in touch with the AG’s from Florida and SC? Maybe they can better educate you on the merits of there law suit. In case you have forgotten, you are the AG for the State of Georgia. I don’t think Eric Holder needs you to so his job for him.
whats next?
March 24th, 2010
3:59 pm
this is just the start; VAT, cap and trade, are coming and I hope everyone is ready; DEFICIT spending, lol. America is going to hit the skids just like USSR, Greece, and other socialist models
Just sayin
March 24th, 2010
4:01 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/03/24/jost.health.bill.challenges/index.html?hpt=T2
A True Patriot
March 24th, 2010
4:01 pm
Well, maybe he’s got something else lined up after his term expires…..he’s gonna need it.
REPUBLICANS ARE SORRY
March 24th, 2010
4:03 pm
I wish Obama WOULD round up all these right wing wackos in internment camps, or better yet,
a lifetime in Guantanamo, NO PHONE CALLS, NO LAWYERS, nothing but hard labor….something their lazy, whiney asses couldn’t handle…as evidenced by their spending all day, every day posting their hate….saying things they are TOO COWARDLY to say to anyones’ face.
ACC 12 Booster
March 24th, 2010
4:03 pm
Maccadave:
“Be honest, is it a race thing? Healthcare is SOCIALISM. The last time I check the USA was a REPUBLIC that is based on representation. The majority is not being represented, we are being railroaded into having more of our money go for entitlements while we shoulder the burden of higher insurance rates in the near future.”
Very good points, Maccadave about the new healthcare law creating a Soviet-style forced mandates that seize private wealth and forces all individuals (who make over $30,000/yr) to buy a product/service from a private company. The American public may like some features of the law like not letting insurance companies, many of whom are rolling in record profits while most Americans are wallowing in record low incomes, arbitrarily drop and exclude adults and children who have pre-existing conditions. Many Americans also look to like the feature that lets parents keep children on their insurance until age 26. Those features look to be a step in the right direction.
What most Americans don’t like, however, is the Soviet-style mandate that forces all Americans to buy health insurance from companies who have no intention of lowering their rates anytime soon while raising their taxes across the board in the midst of a crippling economic downturn, two mandates that are to be enforced by the IRS. I highly object to being forced by the IRS to buy health insurance, a product that will remain sky-high for the forseeable future, no doubt. That force of law applied against individuals at the hands of the IRS, no less, which already has too much power to abuse against private individuals is just too much of an extension of government power. That kind of increase in government power doesn’t just reek of Socialism, it smacks of MARXISM, period.
Just that kind of extension of government power alone overrides whatever positives the bill may have and makes the law very bad legislation that needs to be overturned. Forcing all individuals (who make over $30,000/yr) to buy a private product and using the force of law to seize private wealth to vastly expand the size and power of government is EXTREMELY HIGHLY OBJECTIONABLE and a definite deal breaker for most Americans.
Ed
March 24th, 2010
4:04 pm
Are you aware that the Obama administration is going to continue working towards increasing the federal governments role in our lives. They have stated that the Federal Government “knows what’s best” for all Americans. Health Care is first, then will come a crackdown on individual rights. You will be required to buy a certain brand of car, use mandated energy items, and so on. Believe me, it’s coming. Is this socialism?
dgroy
March 24th, 2010
4:05 pm
Virginia, you probably drive an Escalade, right?
mike
March 24th, 2010
4:06 pm
Since Social Security is a failure…hum…to the wealthy maybe….but other who don`t think the way its not….again sir divided we fall….Everyone cant be a Dr.,Lawyer,Banker,etc…someone has to be the workers of our success…Just the way it is…Heck if they are happy
and got money to spend ,i`m happy more money for me…
More Fees
March 24th, 2010
4:09 pm
I can’t wait to see all the new State taxes and fees we’re going to get to pay to cover all the new Medicare enrollees! I know what we can do… let’s raise corporate taxes. I bet companies will be lining up to set up shop in Georgia so they can help pay all those new taxes. And of course, raising the tax rate won’t prevent companies from hiring new employees, right? And they would never think of shrinking there labor force. Heck, who needs jobs anyhow. I bet we can raise enough taxes so everyone can kick back and play Xbox all day. Industry loves taxes, so I’m sure they would never think about moving there business to Brazil, China, Ireland or India to try to save a few bucks.
Just think, 10 years from now we’ll be thinking back to the “good ole days” when unemployment was only 10%
Matilda
March 24th, 2010
4:10 pm
Maccadave, I was upset when our constitutional protections from government were eroded under the Patriot Act. Were you? I am bothered that my gay friends don’t have the same right to a marriage license that I can get with a man (no matter what the “bad idea” level of such a union.) I am bothered that Congressmen want to come between me and my doctor on issues of my uterus. I am upset that my friend could not grow her own medicine while she was dying of cancer, after she had to divest herself of everything she worked for for 25 years in order to get treatment because she could not afford her insurance premiums while sick. Yes, I DO value freedom, and I don’t think requiring profitable insurance companies to stop treating Americans like hunks in the litter box to be scooped away is in any way taking away my freedom. In fact, I look forward to being self-employed someday when I can buy insurance outside my little gray corporate cubicle to which I’m now tethered, in the interest of being a responsible provider maintaining insurance for my family. Thakns for asking!!
Re: Rebublicans are Sorry
March 24th, 2010
4:15 pm
“I wish Obama WOULD round up all these right wing wackos in internment camps, or better yet,
a lifetime in Guantanamo, NO PHONE CALLS, NO LAWYERS, nothing but hard labor….something their lazy, whiney asses couldn’t handle…as evidenced by their spending all day, every day posting their hate….saying things they are TOO COWARDLY to say to anyones’ face.”
Just more proof that Social Liberals hate the Constitution almost as much as they hate freedom and liberty.
mike
March 24th, 2010
4:22 pm
Maccadave….where would we be if we`d sought other avenue`s before
it got to this?but now it the Dem..fault.What happen after the gas shortage back in 70`s?? One party (not calling any names)shot down a plans to look for alternative ways for fuel
…its people like you that really hurt this country,i got mine you have to get yours attitude….one day sooner or later you will find the real truth….I`m glad i can`t make adjustments to live happy in this life..
Government or know Government…
RetiredSoldier
March 24th, 2010
4:25 pm
Mike, with all due respect your last post didn’t make sense.
David
March 24th, 2010
4:26 pm
This thing was passed in the middle of the night on a Sunday. That’s got a nasty feel to it.
It was passed knowing that it was flawed- on the basis of a promise to fix it later. You should vote on a good bill-not one that needs to be fixed.
The House passes the Senate bill that was passed on the basis of some very questionable dealmaking for votes. You know, everyone knows, this isn’t right.
This things got a stink about it.
ACC 12 Booster
March 24th, 2010
4:26 pm
Ed
March 24th, 2010
4:04 pm
Are you aware that the Obama administration is going to continue working towards increasing the federal governments role in our lives. They have stated that the Federal Government “knows what’s best” for all Americans. Health Care is first, then will come a crackdown on individual rights. You will be required to buy a certain brand of car, use mandated energy items, and so on. Believe me, it’s coming. Is this socialism?
Ed, No, this isn’t socialism, it’s Soviet-style MARXISM. I disagree with you that this type of Marxism is coming because the Democrats are going to get massacred in the 2010 midterm elections. The election of Scott Brown to Ted Kennedy’s Senate seat demonstrates that NO Democrat House or Senate seat is safe. There will be hell to pay for this type of blatant overreach of government power that ignores America’s history as a nation with a strong Libertarian tradition. The outrageous cost of healthcare is definitely a critical issue that must be addressed, but this is definitely NOT the way to do it. Just the mere suggestion that the IRS be given an increase in the already tremendous power it has to lock people up for not buying overpriced health insurance should be a political no-no.
Matilda?????
March 24th, 2010
4:32 pm
“Yes, I DO value freedom, and I don’t think requiring profitable insurance companies to stop treating Americans like hunks in the litter box to be scooped away is in any way taking away my freedom.”
But what about the freedoms of business owners? You can’t say you’re for individual liberty and not support the liberty of others. Contrary to conventional wisdom, insurance companies don’t make “huge profits”. The industry as a whole only had a 3.4% profit margin last year. The highest (United) had a 4.2% margin. To put that into perspective, that is a smalled return than your local grocery store, utility company, cable provider, or DOCTORS.
http://www.usnews.com/money/blogs/flowchart/2009/08/25/why-health-insurers-make-lousy-villains.html
Health insurance providers aren’t the reason prices are so high. Our employer based system removes any real competition. In fact, since you’re employer, not you, picks the plan, there are probably alot of services included that you don’t want or need, but have to pay for because that’s the only option and drives up cost.
Prescription coverage and medical equipment costs drive up the price too. My wife purchased a thumb brace from her ortho the other day. Over $100, with our co-pay being $45. I later went onto Amazon and found the same brace for $35, and that’s out of pocket, not making a claim on my insurance. Same thing when my mom got a wheelchair through her insurance. The co-pay was $500… found the same thing on Amazon for about $250. This new bill does nothing to change medical costs, all it does is create a new subsidy and expand Medicare, which for the first time last year took in less money that it paid out.
retiredds
March 24th, 2010
4:33 pm
Hey Retired Soldier: on my voting record here’s the history. 1960, first time voter: Kennedy; 1964, Johnson; 1968, Nixon; 1972, Nixon; 1976, Ford; 1980, Reagan; 1984, Mondale; 1988, George H.W. Bush; 1992, Bush; 1996, Clinton; 2000, Gore; 2004, Kerry; 2008, Obama. The tally: 7 times Democratic, 6 times Republican. I was seriously pondering McCain until he selected Sarah Palin as his VP running mate. Don’t know what that says except to say I prefer to look at the person running for president and his running mate, their party platform, and other issues. I have moved left of center since Clinton. I did not like anything George Bush had to offer and think his presidency was a disaster for the country.
Now these are just my opinions and I do not expect all of you to jump out of your chairs and shout, “right on” nor do I want people like 500k profiling me.
Churchill's MOM
March 24th, 2010
4:36 pm
RetiredSoldier 3:16 pm
No, you are still better than Johnny the Socialist, just promise me you will stay from Saxby.
mike
March 24th, 2010
4:38 pm
My bad…i just like to post and laugh at my self…
its fun….as you can tell i`m a happy guy with a happy life…
NoPriceOnLiberty
March 24th, 2010
4:51 pm
Matilda,
I’m in agreement with you on the Patriot Act and gay marriage. However, and prepare for your skin to crawl, you are no different than a Republican. To the detriment of freedom, Democrats and Republicans both confuse “liberty” with “liberty of which I approve”. Only the former adheres to the Constitution. Sorry bout that.
BTW, props to Matilda????…..you hit the nail on the head.
ACC 12 Booster
March 24th, 2010
4:53 pm
This may be a little bit too much on the cynical side, but it looks like Attorney General Thurbert Baker passed up a GOLDEN POLITICAL OPPORTUNITY to gain lots of new supporters in his so-called campaign for governor across the political spectrum from far right to moderate left in not joining the joint lawsuit to challenge the constitutionality of the new healthcare bill. Looks like AG Baker doesn’t quite have the sharpest political instincts as we can all see. If Baker would have done a little political grandstanding and jumped on the bandwagon to file suit and derail this bill he could have had a legitimate shot at upsetting Barnes, who has alot of baggage and high negatives, in the Democrat Primary and raising enough money to have a fighting chance in the General Election in the fall since the Republican side seems to be becoming increasingly unsettled. It’s not everyday a golden opportunity like this falls into a politican’s lap. If you’re not going to take advantage of opportunities and breaks like this then why even bother to run for Governor. If Baker were to have jumped on board this political ship and knew how to milk it, he could have saw the rise of a political star. Oh, well. Baker’s political loss is somebody else’s political gain somewhere else across the Georgia political spectrum. Too bad that Baker wasn’t smart enough to play TO Georgia voters instead of playing FOR the national Democrat Party which looks to be headed for an iceberg.
RetiredSoldier
March 24th, 2010
4:53 pm
Retire-
Not jumping up and down, controlled and cool. That is a extremely interesting voting pattern and very unusual (he says with his political science hat on). You would certainly be one that defies prediction.
I was not a big Bush fan either, to much spending and not enough veto’s. But sadly we are in the comparison business and the thought of Gore or Kerry as president sent shivers down my spine.
My continuing concern besides the huge power grab by the feds is how the heck we ever pay off our debt. Shouldn’t we expect our government to be as prudent with their finances as you have obviously been?
RetiredSoldier
March 24th, 2010
4:57 pm
Ok Mom, I am going to gear up to run against Saxby in 2014. Let me make offical “I retired soldier of sound mind and questionable body to announce today my intentions to be a candidate in the republican primary for U.S. Senator in 2014.”
How was that Mom?
RetiredSoldier
March 24th, 2010
4:59 pm
do that is
Churchill's MOM
March 24th, 2010
5:03 pm
RetiredSoldier 4:57 pm
You have my vote, now if we can just get a real Republican to run against Johnny Isakson.
Dem4ever
March 24th, 2010
5:05 pm
> 500k man
March 24th, 2010
1:11 pm
Attention low life Obama supporters. You are poor because you make bad decisions in life, are too lazy to work hard, and too sorry to get a good education. Then you expect people like me to bail you out. Nobody owes you anything. It’s not my fault that you are too lazy to work hard to achieve success. The politicians play you for a fool. They promise you handouts but the truth is you’ll still be poor even after you get the handouts. Meanwhile they laugh all the way to the bank as you clowns keep voting them back into office. Face it, poor people stink. Now go back to your trailer or ghetto dwelling and wait on your next welfare check.
==========================
You ain’t that Rich, there are many who are DEMOCRATS and have
Much Much more $$$$$ than you do!!!!Not all Dems are poor you
retard.
Been Around-Done That
March 24th, 2010
5:05 pm
Fortunately for the citizens, Thurbert Baker will not be Attorney General after the November election. And he won’t be Governor either. Once in a while an election has an up-side. Bye Thurbert!
RetiredSoldier
March 24th, 2010
5:07 pm
Alright I have one vote, well two votes, I do plan to vote for myself. My campaign office is open and you can phone in your campaign contributions to BR-549. Yes that’s right I’m located in Junior Samples old used car lot. Ya’ll come and visit, ya hear.
NoPriceOnLiberty
March 24th, 2010
5:11 pm
Hazel, follow up on your comment “Freedom is, like patriotism, a human value. Dems don’t usually claim to have the exclusive use of the word. “True Americans” doesn’t show up in their communications.”
Quote from your boy, Steny Hoyer, ““Other than the people in this room, do you think any American is going to make a distinction (regarding the procedure used)?” he asked. “That is a rhetorical question … the fact of the matter is I don’t think any American — any real American — is going to make a distinction between” the two procedures.”
Not “True American” but “real American” is close enough.