Handel’s take: Rasmussen poll shows Oxendine, Deal hurt by scandal

Former secretary of state Karen Handel is using yesterday’s Rasmussen survey of the Georgia governor’s race as her own personal fund-raising tool.

The poll, which showed former Gov. Roy Barnes running more poorly among voters than ever before, has become the basis of a memo sent this afternoon to members of Handel’s finance committee. And the odd reporter.

The Rasmussen poll showed Republicans John Oxendine, Nathan Deal and Handel beating Barnes in a head-to-head. Former state Sen. Eric Johnson of Savannah was running even.

Handel keyed on a Rasmussen favorite – crosstabs that show “very favorable/very unfavorable” ratings of each Republican – on the theory that, this early, passion rules.

See the entire memo here. Sayeth the key paragraphs:

In just two months Oxendine has seen a drop from 22-7 to 12-11. This is a significant hit in public opinion. Deal has seen his numbers drop from 10-6 to 8-8. On the other hand, Karen’s numbers have improved from 8-4 in December to 13-7 this week.

It’s clear after several surveys that the scandals involving Nathan Deal and John Oxendine have taken a toll on their standing with the voters, particularly those paying the most attention right now. Oxendine’s numbers, in particular, are trending rapidly in the wrong direction. Eric Johnson, thus far, has failed to get traction.

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Cutty

February 23rd, 2010
2:04 pm

No college degree. Non-starter. Period.

GoKaren

February 23rd, 2010
2:08 pm

Handel is the right person with the right vision at the right time.

Eade Chit N Run Rabbits

February 23rd, 2010
2:19 pm

Mark my words. King Roy will look better as time goes by.

Jack from Sandy Springs

February 23rd, 2010
2:25 pm

Handel is driven and ambitious but maybe too much so for her own good. Plus, the right will never accept her after her actively courting the gay vote at Gay Pride festivities when she was running for Fulton Commission. I have no problem with it and would respect her more if she would stand by doing so but now she is playing up to the right wing of the party exactly like Skandalakis did by denying she ever courted the gay vote…….GOP needs a new entry/fresh face in this race of it will be King Roy part two……….

Elliot Garcia

February 23rd, 2010
2:25 pm

King Roy needs to get a life!

Clem

February 23rd, 2010
2:30 pm

It doesn’t matter that Handel doesn’t have a college education. She’s honest, which is more than you can say for Oxendine and Deal, who not only have questionable ethics but are secessionists. God help us if either of them get elected.

Ethics Border Patrol

February 23rd, 2010
2:35 pm

So where’s it written in state law that you have to have a college degree to run for governor? So far, all the slimy dealings, disgrace, and immorality have come from college educated men–both democrats and republicans. I say it’s time to give this woman a chance. She’s certainly better than the other dolts running on the republican side and she whip King Roy’s ass, money notwithstanding

Kathy Noble

February 23rd, 2010
2:38 pm

Karen Handel has the leadership experience to handle this state in tough times. She has a PROVEN track record of ETHICS REFORM and sound conservative fiscal policy. That is exactly what we need right now.

Buddy

February 23rd, 2010
2:42 pm

Go Handel!!!

Bludgeon & Skewer

February 23rd, 2010
3:04 pm

Greetings All,

We’ve fired up the old spin machine here at the Secret Underground Libertarian Command Center (LCC) and are happy to provide the readership with a completely different take on the latest Rasmussen Poll on the Governors race here in the great State of Georgia. The most interesting aspect of this latest poll is the growing strength of “Some Other Candidate” as well as the ever popular “Not Sure”. These two worthy’s garnered 17% of the the respondents in the Oxendine/Barnes match up, 21% in the Deal/Barnes match up, 19% in the Handel/Barnes match up and to a high of 26% in the Johnston/Barnes match up.

Compared to the 21 JAN Rasmussen poll, “Some Other Candidate” and “Not Sure” are steamrolling to victory with a 3% gain in the Oxendine /Barnes match up, a 6% gain in the Deal/Barnes match up and 4% gain in the Handel/Barnes match up. Candidate Johnson did not make the cut in the January poll.

The coolest part of all of this is that “Some Other Candidate” is actually Libertarian John Monds. Look as hard as you can this November and you will not find “Some other Candidate” listed on the ballot for the Governor of Georgia. The only candidate you will certainly see is Libertarian John Monds.

If you want Governor who is not ethically challenged, then Vote for John Monds. If you want a Governor who is not in the back pocket of the various and sundry Lobbyist groups pillaging Georgia, then Vote for John Monds. If you want a Governor who will listen to your concerns and take action, then Vote John Monds.

Vote for Smaller Government, Lower Taxes and More Freedom! Vote for Libertarian John Monds for Governor!

Bubba

February 23rd, 2010
3:04 pm

Austin Scott could be that fresh face.

GoOx

February 23rd, 2010
3:09 pm

Another poll, another lead for my man Ox. He is the only one who has polled consistently and shown that he can beat Barnes in every poll.

Bitter EX democrackkk

February 23rd, 2010
3:19 pm

Do NOT re elect Royal Barnes…he will take Georgia back to real bad democrat SLAVERY!

Karen Handel is the winning person all around!

Muffin

February 23rd, 2010
3:22 pm

Oxendine is a crook and everyone knows it. Time to get him out of Georgia government and let him go retire to a pheasant farm.

Avery

February 23rd, 2010
3:32 pm

People are seriously claiming you don’t need a college degree to be governor, you only need to be honest?

Forrest Gump was honest, but I don’t think he would have been a good governor. You need intelligent people with good connections who are aggressive. Apparently, in politics, this type of person is in short supply. It is certainly in short supply in our voting pool.

Karen Can

February 23rd, 2010
3:41 pm

Not having a college degree does not matter. Look at all of the IDIOTS under the Gold Dome who have degrees and the fine shape they have put the State in with their Good Old Boy politics. And just think ….nost of them are Attorneys and Bankers.

Karen Can

February 23rd, 2010
3:45 pm

Avery, Just because you do not have a college degree does not mean you are not intelligent. I know many people would finished high school with very good grades but could not go on to college because of other constraints. Does that mean that they should be the ditch diggers of the world? Oh and yes I have a college degree ……

Scott

February 23rd, 2010
3:49 pm

Hell me have a moron that’s governor now. I don’t think the stupid curve goes down much further.

Martha

February 23rd, 2010
3:50 pm

Guess what, Avery, you don’t need a college education to be intelligent. You must be some kind of elitist. Granted… being honest, though important, is not enough. You do need intelligence and a grasp of the issues. But look what a mess so called “educated” people have gotten this state in. Handel is the only viable choice. And, I’m not so sure ole Forrest wouldn’t have been a pretty good governor.

Avery

February 23rd, 2010
3:50 pm

“Karen: Avery, Just because you do not have a college degree does not mean you are not intelligent.”

I never said that. I’m sure Karen is very intelligent.

However, only having a high school education does not give one the background required to run a state the size of some countries. I have no doubt that Karen is very intelligent. However, I do not believe that someone without the background of an undergraduate is qualified to lead a state the size of Georgia.

The veiled accusation of sexism that accompanies the supporters angry that Karen does not have a college education is not my problem.

Avery

February 23rd, 2010
3:51 pm

Hey Martha,

I suppose most businesses in the United States are “elitist” since most positions of importance require a college education.

I wouldn’t want anyone to run our state who is unqualified to run a medium-sized public company (which likely has smaller revenues than our state).

Martha

February 23rd, 2010
3:54 pm

And look, Avery, at what a mess our current governor has gotten this state in, and he is a DOCTOR of veterinary medicine, with at least 7 years of college. I rest my case.

Avery

February 23rd, 2010
3:57 pm

Hey Martha,

I think our current governor is an idiot. Your statement, however, is logically incorrect: I think you need to be college educated to be a governor, however, not everyone who is college educated is qualified to be governor.

Avery

February 23rd, 2010
3:58 pm

In case you missed it, you assumed that I claimed anyone with a college education can be a governor based off of my statement that a college education is required to govern a state.

Perhaps you are a casualty of our garbage public school system.

Athens local

February 23rd, 2010
3:59 pm

You’re right, there is no degree requirement to be governor… but I would much rather have a governor that has gone on to at lease capture a Bachelor’s degree.

I plan on graduating (1 year to go!) and attending medical school during the four years this administration will cover… as a student that values my education, I feel a lot more comfortable knowing that the person in charge of the colleges and universities in this state has an understanding of how important universities are.

James

February 23rd, 2010
4:04 pm

@Avery, you do realize Forrest Gump is/was not a real person correct?

Martha

February 23rd, 2010
4:07 pm

Well, Avery, I’m actually a graduate of Lovett and Emory. Sorry to disappoint you. And I still believe it’s not necessay to have a college education to be a good governor. Maybe with everything else being equal, a college educated candidate would be better than one without a college education. In this case, everything is not equal. Handel is by far, at least in my mind, the best, most qualified candidate. Bubba may be right, however, about Austin Scott. He may be worth a serious look.

Avery

February 23rd, 2010
4:08 pm

Hey James,

I was unaware of that fact. Thank for your the heads-up. However, being a fictional character apparently does not disqualify you to run this state.
I.e., Sonny’s solution to the drought.

Avery

February 23rd, 2010
4:12 pm

Hey Martha,

If you happened to major in mathematics or logic at either of those schools, perhaps you could get a refund based on your logically inconsistent earlier comment about “7 years of vet school”.

I respect that you “believe” a college education is not necessary, even after my earlier comments, but I tend to deal with data. You “believe” someone who is unqualified to be a mid-tier manager at a small public company is qualified to run this state. It is a very sad state of affairs that your view is somewhat wide-spread.

whatever

February 23rd, 2010
4:12 pm

I will not be able to vote for anyone who is less educated than myself. I agree with some of the other statements, as far as intelligence, and common sense, I’m sure that Ms. Handel has her fair share. However, I feel like without a college degree, she lacks a value of education, as well as a critical knowledge base of history and political science. What we need is someone with education and experience to run this fine state.

Churchill's MOM

February 23rd, 2010
4:15 pm

Where do we start, the top 3 MEN running for the Republican side have college degrees but are crooks. We have a honest woman without a college degree who will get my vote. If any of the 3 Crooks get the nomination, I’ll be voting Monds and I hate King Roy more than the OX.

Avery

February 23rd, 2010
4:17 pm

Hey Churchill,

Please see the post at 3:57.

You are a victim of reverse logic.

AngryVoter

February 23rd, 2010
4:48 pm

It’s amazing that most of the people who are posting that Ms. Handel is uneducated or that having a college degree is important or that they themselves are educated have included grammar errors within their posts.

Athens local, you are not a person that values your… You are a person who values your… And sentences shouldn’t end with “are” now, should they? It scares me that someone can be graduating college and still make such silly mistakes.

Whatever, nobody is less educated than myself, although someone may be less educated than me.

People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

Emily

February 23rd, 2010
5:58 pm

As a business owner, when someone applies for a job I look at their EXPERIENCE, not their schooling. I would much rather hire someone that has the training already and that will be an immediate asset to my company than someone that has a college degree. This of course would be a different story if it was in the field of medicine. However, being the govenor of a state is like running a business. So, Handel went and worked in the White House instead of a college degree…so Handel was the Commissioner of Fulton County (which is like running a small business)…so she was Secretary of State….wow looks like she has the experience in local government, small business and state government. And she doesn’t have the scandel following her like the other two do. Is that the best you can do? Her lacking a college degree? Do your research on ALL the candidates and if a true conservative you will see Handel is the only choice and she is the only one that can beat Barnes.

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David Bean

February 23rd, 2010
6:25 pm

Only two comments:

1.) Meseemeth a college degree is no guarantee of historical literacy. I’d humbly submit that Andrew Johnson, man with little formal education, faced greater challenges than are ever likely to befall his (presumed) intellectual superior, John Oxendine. He was also politician enough to weather two impeachment attempts, persuade the French to leave Mexico, and to acquire Alaska. Granted, Johnson was merely President of the United States (governing Georgia is apt to be far more difficult…) but he managed well enough – especially when one considers his unpopularity.

Besides, this is a representative, constitutional republic — not Plato’s _Republic_. I’ll pass on the self-crowned, neocon “philosopher-kings,” thank you kindly. I won’t be voting for Handel, for the record, but her lack of a degree is the least of my reasons.

2.) I think our Libertarian friend may be jumping the gun. As a category, “other candidate” also includes Ray McBerry. Just thought I’d point it out.

Wounded Warrior

February 23rd, 2010
6:40 pm

Karen is not any smarter than Kathy Cox. GLAD SOMETHING IS FINALLY HURTING OXENDUFUS.

Sandy Spring For Roy Barnes

February 23rd, 2010
6:52 pm

MY vote goes toward Roy Barnes, I dont trust the republicans leadership anymore. Karen, Ox are the biggest joke in Georgia.

whatever

February 23rd, 2010
7:07 pm

@ Angry Voter……..I’m not running for Governor……..I wonder how may grammatical errors would be in a post by Ms. Handel.
@ Sandy Spring……..Karen and Ox are the biggest jokes,along with Eric ( Job Joberson) Johnson and Austin (Robot Ken Doll) Scott.

Susan

February 23rd, 2010
7:09 pm

I’m 50 years old and have both a college degree and an MBA from a top ranked business school. I don’t consider either of my degrees critical to being the Governor of a state the size of Georgia. My 30 years of work and life experience are what are important and what make me who I am today. No doubt Ms. Handel feels the same way. Honestly, I can’t think of a single thing I learned in earning those degrees that would help me handle the day to day job of Governor!

oldfart

February 23rd, 2010
7:24 pm

A bunch of college educated lawyers seem to have only lined their own pockets for decades. This is not an endorsement of Ms. Handel either, nor for uneducated office holders but something needs to change. Almost all of the lobbyists are lawyers as well and if the truth be told this is why no one in Washington is mentioning tort reform as part of the ongoing health care debate. Jefferson envisioned a cross section of society albeit a more narrowed society than we have now but why do 98% of them have to be from the same profession? I would rather the chief executive have an MBA but most of them wouldn’t want such a low paying job. You have to be an unethical lawyer to make the position pay.

Lee

February 23rd, 2010
8:09 pm

Handel is a hand puppet of Sonny …. Ox may be as well but to a lesser degree ….If you vote for Handel, you are voting for Sonny….Sonny’s time has come and gone … lets get a fresh face in office !

Professional Blogger

February 24th, 2010
1:14 am

Rev. Toombs, I see that you are using ellipses for “Lee” and “Martha.” Trying to camouflage your style, eh? Your grammar, spelling, syntax, etc., is getting sort of sloppy because of your hundreds of blogs per day on several AJC blogs. Are you getting paid to carry on these conversations with your on-line “personalities”? It is amazing these days how this internet thing relative to advertisements works. Oh well, I wade through your dozens of posts on each thread to try to find some opinions offered by different readers.

Avery

February 24th, 2010
1:40 am

@David

I don’t think someone with Andrew Johnson’s education, in today’s world, is fit to govern our state. Perhaps that is why he was impeached.

I also find it hilarious that you would consider someone who governed over what was basically a gangster-nation in the aftermath of the Civil War is a shining example to hold up to Georgia voters.

Dustin

May 1st, 2010
6:11 pm

Vote Libertarian!

JOHN MONDS for Governor

@Avery, I think attacking a candidate for not having a college degree makes about as much sense as attacking a candidate for being too short or too tall! In this day and age, anyone can get a college degree, and I think a case could be made that in some cases a college degree could do more damage than good. I think a candidate should be attacked for past/proposed policy they support, not if they spent 4 years at some institution. I am not trying to attack you, but I am just pointing out that it is a silly thing to debate.

The candidate I am supporting for Governor, John Monds, does have a college degree (if it matters).