Roy Barnes said he’d sign bill to permit Sunday sales of alcohol in grocery stores
Walking around the state Capitol this morning, I ran into a lobbyist who said that former Gov. Roy Barnes, running to reclaim his old job, had put out the word that – if the Legislature were to pass a bill to permit the Sunday sales of beer and wine in grocery and convenience stores – he’d sign it.
Barnes himself just confirmed it:
“Yes. It ought to be a local decision. I believe in local control. It ought to be a local referendum, just like we do any of the others. I don’t know why we get cranked up about this, to be frank. That’s something that people ought to have to regulate themselves.”
The governor said hard times have increased acceptance. “Of course, I’m a Methodist, so we even speak to each other in liquor stores,” he quipped. “There may be some parts of the state that say, ‘We don’t want no part of this.’ But in other places, it’s part of their economic fiber.”
Barnes is one of several candidates for governor, both Republican and Democrat, who is to speak at a small-business forum here at noon. So expect more to come on the topic from his rivals.
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HDB
January 27th, 2010
11:46 am
IT’S ABOUT TIME!!
AH
January 27th, 2010
11:48 am
I suggest we get Old Roy a dictionary. He needs to look up pandering and dignity.
Road Scholar
January 27th, 2010
11:56 am
AH: while you are at it look up visionary and competence…something missing the last 8 years!
about time
January 27th, 2010
12:09 pm
Before you cast your vote for Oxendine, remember, he said that he would not allow a vote on this issue.
RGB
January 27th, 2010
12:13 pm
Sunday liquor sales = competence
Who’da thunk it?
Cutty
January 27th, 2010
12:22 pm
Finally, someone who shows common sense on the issue. Just because Sunny and his ilk don’t drink, that shouldn’t mean that I can’t grab a six pack on Sunday. Besides, they let restaurants and sports venues serve on Sunday, so those who claim to still be in favor of this blue law are hypocrites.
Don D
January 27th, 2010
12:24 pm
This doesn’t put Georgia at the vanguard on this issue, we are maybe one of three states that doesn’t allow Sunday sales. We need to enter the 21st century. But let’s be real, the liquor distributors in our state don’t want this, and they tell the Governor what to do, they don’t ask.
Ric Spratlin
January 27th, 2010
12:26 pm
Will ole Roy let the flag issue be a local issue to? I smell a rat!!!
ERC
January 27th, 2010
12:27 pm
Thank goodness someone is using good sense on this. If we can go to a bar or restaurant on Sundays, then drive home, we certainly ought to be able to buy a six-pack or bottle of wine to consume at home. And for those liquor store owners who oppose it because they don’t want to open on Sundays, fine! Chick Fil A does just fine with no Sunday sales so don’t worry about it.
AH
January 27th, 2010
12:34 pm
Get ready to bang your heads against the wall for the next 4 years on this issue.
Probably 90% of the state would support completely eliminating this asinine restriction, the second someone makes it political you kill it for the next two election cycles. Barnes just wanted to capitalize on an issue that shouldn’t be an issue. Now who ever opposes him will have to take the opposite side. And if he should win the governorship then the legislation will take that up opposition, just because they would see it as a potential campaign issue for them in the next cycle. That is why Barnes is a pandering jacka$$ for bringing it up like this. He wants to grab about 5% of the vote on an issue he knows will never be passed if it is brought up in the election cycle.
AH
January 27th, 2010
12:37 pm
PS
ERC is right about
“And for those liquor store owners who oppose it because they don’t want to open on Sundays, fine! Chick Fil A does just fine with no Sunday sales so don’t worry about it.”
But when your in business you don’t volunteer to take a risk you don’t have to when the best you can hope for is to break even.
Rule .303
January 27th, 2010
12:43 pm
Wrong Answer! The right answer would have been, “I will actively push Sunday-sale legislation through the General Assembly until it passes both chambers.”
You guys who support Sunday sales are all fooling yourselves about any candidate who claims to “sign it if it passes.”
What’s the sense in saying that you’ll sign the legislation if you already know that the General Assembly is too scared to take up the issue in the first place.
Dj Sniper
January 27th, 2010
12:51 pm
At least Barnes is willing to let the people vote on the issue. This is the opposite of Perdue, who seems to think that everybody else should follow his beliefs. If the people vote no, then that’s what they vote. Bottom line: let the people decide. To some people, this subject may seem trivial, but if we can get it changed, it will be a small step towards moving Georgia forwards instead of backwards.
Now sit back and watch the religious nutjobs come out of the woodwork and condemn Roy Barnes to hell.
Don D
January 27th, 2010
12:55 pm
I am afraid Rule .303 may be right. I guess I can promise to “sexually satisfy Charlize Theron if she shows up at my house one day” or like when Jerry Glanville, Falcon’s coach used to leave two tickets for Elvis at all the Falcon’s games. Less than zero chance of either of those happening.
The least they can do is allow individual counties and cities to vote whether they want it or not. How is that not fair ?
Steven M
January 27th, 2010
1:03 pm
I have decided to run for governor with a strong stance on only two issues. We need to pay our teachers more and I will make sure we are allowed to purchase alcohol on Sunday! Who will vote for me!
DW
January 27th, 2010
1:26 pm
“Let the people decide.” How can you argue against that? Yet another reason to vote Roy Barnes back in!
Cutty
January 27th, 2010
1:31 pm
Are you better off now than you were 7 years ago?
AW
January 27th, 2010
1:33 pm
About friggin time!!! He’s got my vote!!!
Lisa
January 27th, 2010
1:38 pm
Good ole pandering Roy Barnes. This guy will say what to get re-elected. However, if you review his track record closely one would realize he is a wolf in sheeps clothing!
td
January 27th, 2010
1:39 pm
Dj Sniper, Let us put the issue up for a vote on a state wide basis. I wonder if it would pass? Barnes did more at taking local control away then any other Governor is the states history and now he is talking about local control. I think I will have to call BS on him.
Steven M
January 27th, 2010
1:42 pm
They all sucks! Vote for me!
Doh!
January 27th, 2010
1:43 pm
@ Lisa- So what is Sonny and the rest of the ‘local control’ republican party? They’re all about local control until they get in power. What have they done of any significance in their term as the majority?
SOUTHERN ATL
January 27th, 2010
1:47 pm
…..and Roy Barnes can win too!!!
Georgia Whig Party member
January 27th, 2010
1:58 pm
Didn’t Roy have a few years to actually do everything he is campaigning to do now? Its kind of weird to think we should give a guy another chance when he kind of already had his…Can’t say I am that intrigued by the republicans either, but something just sounds funny when a politican claims he will do something when he has already had a chance and didn’t. Couldn’t agree more with Doh!. And so I am voting for Steven M, whoever he is.
E-Roll
January 27th, 2010
2:14 pm
Actually this measure was scheduled to pass the commitee that it was in two years ago when ol’ Sonny came out and said that he would veto any bill that allowed for local referemdums on Sunday alcohol sales. After Sonny’s quotes made the round, none of the guys under the Gold Dome would stick their necks out for a bill that was sure to be killed by veto.
FINALLY!!!
January 27th, 2010
2:23 pm
IT’S ABOUT TIME THEY SELL ALCOHOL IN GEORGIA ON SUNDAYS!!!!
ATL
January 27th, 2010
2:28 pm
ok here we go again, roy will say anything to our votes, and guess what you all are going to jump all over it…………………because its alcohol on sunday.
ATL
January 27th, 2010
2:29 pm
Enter your comments here
Rob Vinson
January 27th, 2010
2:30 pm
SOLD!!! Old Roy’s got my vote…now if he had just let people vote on the flag last time around instead of changing the state flag to what looks like a Denny’s placemat…
FrankLeeDarling
January 27th, 2010
2:48 pm
This is a winning issue for any politician ,polls show that 75% of people state wide support sunday sales
TLH
January 27th, 2010
2:50 pm
Does anybody know the opposition’s thoughts on this matter?
I think it should be up to the people to vote on the matter. The job of the politicians should be to give citizens their due rights. People that don’t want a referendum are really irritating. What right do they have to suppress other citizens of personal choices?
FrankLeeDarling
January 27th, 2010
2:56 pm
looks like we have a anti business temperance judge in Snellville.
TLH
January 27th, 2010
3:00 pm
Ok, I found this:
“I am proud to join hands with them and thousands of other Faith leaders and lay people all across Georgia of so many denominations who have taken a strong stand against Sunday sales in Georgia,” Oxendine said
Looks like Oxendine will no have my vote!
Rule .303
January 27th, 2010
3:05 pm
If it’s a Christian issue, why not just amend the law to allow ONLY NON-Christains the ability to purchase alcohol on Sundays
Captain Midnight
January 27th, 2010
3:06 pm
Pander away to the rednecks King Roy, we might just drink away the memory of you stealing our flag. You’re all about lettin the little guy decide things now huh? ‘We ain’t fergettin’.
FrankLeeDarling
January 27th, 2010
3:12 pm
“I am proud to join hands with them and thousands of other Faith leaders and lay people all across Georgia of so many denominations who have taken a strong stand against Sunday sales in Georgia,” Oxendine said
doh! another lost vote.
Doh!
January 27th, 2010
3:13 pm
Captain Midnight- So you fry Roy and let ol’ Sonny off the hook. Wasn’t he gonna let you vote to change the flag back?
Captain Midnight
January 27th, 2010
3:19 pm
I’m sorry, who changed the flag again? You don’t blame the guy who didn’t clean up the mess, you blame the guy who MADE it. At LEAST Sonny got us the original Confederate flag back. If it was up to King Roy, we’d still be saluting that lame a$$ “Georgias history” Denny’s mat.
Doh!
January 27th, 2010
3:34 pm
I blamed the guy who didn’t clean up the mess if he made that a campaign pledge, and instead gave you that candy cane you call ‘the original’.
Pedro
January 27th, 2010
3:39 pm
Captain Midnight, your not missing the flag, it’s waiving at your Klan meetings weekly.
TLH
January 27th, 2010
4:00 pm
Sonny Perdue won the governership by saying he would put the “real” Georgia Flag up for a vote via referendum. He got us the referendum, but guess what? The Georgia flag was not in the list. So I blame both Barns and Purdue for the flag issue. What we have here in Georgia are republicans acting like democrats and democrats acting like idiots.
Roy is a Crook
January 27th, 2010
4:05 pm
Roy is as crooked as he is FAT.
Vote for Pedro!
January 27th, 2010
4:07 pm
Enter your comments here
TLH
January 27th, 2010
4:13 pm
Ok, I sent Oxendine an email and asked him what his current stance on the Sundays sales issue was. I explained that I would not be supporting him for governor if he is against it. Are there any other good candiates out there? I really don’t wan to vote for Barnes either.
Dj Sniper
January 27th, 2010
4:14 pm
TD, I had just moved to Georgia right at the end of Barnes’s last term, and I wasn’t all that familiar with Georgia politics then. I’ve started to follow things more closely ast of late, so I’m definitely interested in the 2010 gubernatorial race. I know one thing thought: Oxendine will not get my vote, and it’s not just because of his stance on Sunday sales either.
TLH
January 27th, 2010
4:14 pm
john@johnoxendine.com
RJ
January 27th, 2010
4:14 pm
Perhaps the mom and pops like having their Sundays off, but as many have stated in this forum, it’s time for this state to join the new century. Georgia has the potential to grow by abandoning the racist Confederate flag issue, investing in education and transportation, and allowing unlimited stem cell research. The Religious Wrong needs to get out of politics and stay where they belong — in their houses of worship. This can be achieved through a combination of 1-cent sales taxes and fair taxation in our income tax statements and the ad velorum tax. We need to make these investments.
Captain Midnight
January 27th, 2010
4:16 pm
Hey Pedro, google ‘Klan ralley’ and see how many more American flags you see than Confederate flags amigo. The “Confederate flag is racist” arguement is dead. 100,000 Blacks fought for the Confederacy and that flag belongs to their ancestors as much as it does to me. Crack a history book when you’re done illegally pickin onions amigo.
Roy is a Crook
January 27th, 2010
4:17 pm
Yeah AH, Roy needs to look up “obese” and “crooked” too.
Bill Orvis White
January 27th, 2010
4:17 pm
This RJ fella is the worst that human beings can come in. I was on the drink and drugs when I was a young man here in Mississippi. I got so bad that I threw my 150 in a ditch while drinking whiskey. Jesus guided me out of the wreckage and from that time forward I dedicated myself to the Lord Almighty. Banning the drink on Sundays is the right thing to do. If I had it my way, I would ban it everyday. RJ, you are Godless-pure and simple. Your good state will get jobs if you cut taxe$ and regulation! Your far left liberal ways are shown here in this blog when you say that you want to raise taxe$ on the good people of Georgia. You’re wrong-pure and simple!
Doh!
January 27th, 2010
4:19 pm
Captain- In all my years, I’ve never talked to one black person in favor of the Confederate flag. Many fought for the confederacy because they HAD to, or be lynched. Your argument is futile dude. You blame Barnes over the flag, voted for Sonny because you thought he would change it back and still got screwed. End of story.
Doh!
January 27th, 2010
4:20 pm
Bill Orvis- Haven’t taxes and regulations been scaled back during Sonny’s tenure? Where are the jobs then?
Captain Midnight
January 27th, 2010
4:24 pm
Doh, you need a history lesson also friend. Btw, Democrat candidates never make unfulfilled pledges do they? Take all the time you want to answer, I’m still waitin on my tax cut for 95% of the “working” American people, so I’ll probably be here for a while.
Bill Orvis White
January 27th, 2010
4:26 pm
Sonny didn’t cut enough. My aunt up near Brasstown would have had more money in her pocket if Sonny eliminated that stupid ad velorum tax. From what I see and read, I love Sonny and know that he’s a good God-fearing man, but he was NO conservative for Georgia all these years.
I like your man Ox, but would prefer that Johnson fella or better yet, Ray McBerry. With Ray, all of you would enjoy low or no taxe$ which would put much more in your pockets to start businesses. I just read that Mrs. Handel would like to see some incentives go to tech folks. That’s OK, but life would be easier for tech folks if the gov’t would just get out of the way.
God Bless,
Bill
J.B. Stoner
January 27th, 2010
4:29 pm
ATTENTION:
Ric Spratlin, Captain Midnight and all other Klan Members, Inbreds and Racists: It’s over! The flag issue is over! Thank God Roy Barnes had the political courage to move this state out of the shadows of its racist and segregated past. You Flaggers are thankfully a dying bred in this state. Unfortunately, everytime you open your mouth about the flag, you make this state look like we are getting ready to film “Deliverance II”. Please finally figure it out that racial hatred is not “cool” anymore. Just go back inside your double-wide and watch some more Jerry Springer re-runs and leave your ignorant, toothless mouth shut. The rest of Georgia will thank you!
Captain
January 27th, 2010
4:30 pm
Good God, Roy is so desperate he is willing to say and do anything. Two weeks ago he was blasting elected officials for having been guests at Univ of Georgia football games (he had no aversion to attending as a guest when he held elective office) and now he’s advocating Sunday liquor sales. I can’t recall Roy sending word to the Legislature to send him such a bill when he was Governor.
Someone please ask Roy how he feels about producing a photo Identification at the polls in order to vote. Does he still oppose the requirement of having to produce a picture ID in order to vote? He filed the lawsuit against the Georgia Law as you may recall. You are required to show photo ID to buy liquor. Surely Roy doesn’t think voting should be easier than buying liquor, even if it’s on Sunday. Or, is Roy for waiving havng to produce ID to buy liquor?
Captain Midnight
January 27th, 2010
4:33 pm
One more thing Doh’, You’re not very likely to here black people in favor of much of anything that doesn’t promote, provide for or celebrate anything that isn’t pro-black. Example, google “blacks protest St. Patricks day” It aint just the flag bud.
wesleywhatwhat
January 27th, 2010
4:39 pm
and yet morons will still vote for republicans in large numbers…
Captain Midnight
January 27th, 2010
4:41 pm
J.B Stoner..the little name calling crap just makes you a Punk. But that’s what liberals do when they can’t counter points.And although I’d like to go back in my unforclosed on home, I can’t because I’m at work so your kids can eat. Btw J.B, the current Georgia state flag is a Confederate flag genious. Over? Sure?
TLH
January 27th, 2010
4:43 pm
Captain Midnight – You are 100% correct!
WM
January 27th, 2010
4:56 pm
Wow I am utterly speechless right now. No, not because Ol Roy is pandering to the masses (that what Dems have always done), but because so many of you would vote for him if the election was tomorrow based solely on the fact he would entertain the idea of allowing local governments the option of selling alcohol on Sunday’s. Amazed that you’d be willing to trade your vote for a six pack of Coors regardless of what other initiatives Ol Roy has, is, will propose over the coming months. Remember, elections have consequences. And so far the last candidate to get elected who pandered & promised us everything under the moon has completely failed to deliver.
A Life Long Georgian
January 27th, 2010
5:00 pm
Folks, this is the 21st Century…..Not being able to sell alcohol on Sundays is most absurd……old OX is gonna feel the wrath of Georgians come election time…..Roy, you’re a little late with your support. Politicians will say anything to get your vote (prime example…..BO).
George Wallace
January 27th, 2010
5:04 pm
J. B. Stoner……you’re an idiot and, I’m assuming, Black as the ace of spades.
Captain Midnight
January 27th, 2010
5:06 pm
You know, 99.9% of people who embrace the Confederate flag don’t hate anyone. It is the flag our southern ancestors;white,black,latino(yes)Irish and many other cultures fought under against what they believed to be an invading army. Thats what it represents.Nothing more.The United sons of Confederate veterans, the United daughters of the Confederacy and many other heritage groups (and whats wrong with heritage?)DENOUNCE the use of the flag for anything deemed dishonorable.FYI, bylaws of the Klan (which I detest) only mandate that one flag be displayed at all events. Ya’ll wanna guess which flag that is? Give you a hint, next time you drive by City hall..look up.
Roy is a Crook
January 27th, 2010
5:12 pm
Roy is sooo FAT that he makes Jubba the Hut Jackson look slime!
Wino
January 27th, 2010
5:15 pm
‘Bout time.
As for the proud (of what, I wonder?) white supremacists and their ilk who so often spew their anonymous bile here, I hope that your arms aren’t getting sore patting yourselves on the back on account of the color of your skin. In terms of decency and humanity (you may not be familiar with those terms, I suggest a good dictionary), you certainly leave something to be desired. I note with amusement that while you seem very free with your opinions about people of color when you are anonymous, I never seem to see your signed letters to the editor, or your open confrontation in the public sphere of what you deem such an injury to you (though how another man’s skin can injure you is beyond me). Maybe you believe that my ancestors who fought for this state would approve of you, call you brave. I don’t think so. They were decent men.
Doh!
January 27th, 2010
5:16 pm
@ Wesley- Morons like Captain Midnight.
Funny how Captain knows the bylaws of the klan. SMH. Based on your comment about blacks not in favor of anything that doesn’t ‘promote, provide for or celebrate anything that isn’t pro-black.’ The same could be said for you and your ilk.
Roy is a Crook
January 27th, 2010
5:19 pm
If you skinned Roy, you could make a circus tent out of the massive folds of skin.
Bill Orvis White
January 27th, 2010
5:20 pm
The flag is about pride, not prejudice. I will always fight to keep it flying here in the South. I love my homeland and would do anything to protect our Southern states right at her borders.
When it comes to Big Gov’t from DC: We in the South opt out
When it comes to forcing Socialistic health care upon us: We opt out
When it comes to raising our taxe$: We opt out
When it comes to forcing a One World vision on us: We opt out
When it comes to making us adopt the Gay Agenda: We opt out
When it comes to more environmental regulation: We opt out!
WE OPT OUT! WE OPT OUT! WE OPT OUT! WE OPT OUT! WE OPT OUT! WE OPT OUT! WE OPT OUT!
GaBlue
January 27th, 2010
5:25 pm
“Amazed that you’d be willing to trade your vote for a six pack of Coors…”
Not exactly. (Ewww! Who drinks that?) How about we trade an appalling budget deficit for some new revenue so we don’t have to trade employed teachers for kids who can’t graduate, or the water in Lake Lanier for lawyer bills while we run dry again in the next drought? In this economy with plummeting state revenues, taking a little juice from the sale of happy juice (that people drink anyway) might just give us the infusion that sustains us until better times.
Captain Midnight
January 27th, 2010
5:27 pm
“Funny how Captain knows the bylaws of the klan” Man, that couldn’t have been More predictable. It’s called “know your enemy” That’s all you took from my post isn’t it? Not suprised.Nice try though. People who embrace the Confederate flag are not automatically racist. Beat that drum as long and hard as you want to, but it still don’t make it so.
Jackson
January 27th, 2010
5:28 pm
The hypocrisy of some republican puritans is amazing to me. The GA republicans just had their frat house style of legislating brought into the public eye, and now their supporters are trying to own the puritanical mantle of no alcohol sales on Sunday for those who want it. Do you really believe that your state legislators were not having their booze supplied to them on Sunday by lobbyists and that sort? Whether I choose to buy a six pack on Sunday or not, the less government is involved in my day to day life – the better! But wait, isn’t that what republicans believe?
Captain Midnight
January 27th, 2010
5:31 pm
Bill Orvis White, you lost them after “pride”. I’m with you brother. You are spot on. It’s clearer now than ever.
GaBlue
January 27th, 2010
5:35 pm
Captain Midnight, that would be track six from Rage Against the Machine’s self titled CD. I totally get what you’re saying about the flag. It represents the history of where we come from — a history that has few other symbols we can claim. Coming from a long line of [now progressive-minded] crackers, I don’t feel racist when I see that particular flag. It just means “Georgia” to me, and that’s it.
That being said, a few years ago, I came to understand that the symbol that only meant “home” to me does indeed OFFEND and UPSET my neighbors. (Neighbors in the biblical meaning.) I listened to my neighbors describe the look on their Mississippi Grandma’s face whenever she saw it — the fear and pain flashing back in her mind from the 1940’s. I see what it means to THEM, and therefore, because I want to love my neighbors, I put the relic away. It belongs in a museum, Dude. Let’s all move forward now, shall we? C’mon. Take my hand… it’s all good.
Captain Midnight
January 27th, 2010
5:39 pm
Jackson, I agree with you partially. No proof in about the first third of your claims.However, I do think it’s stupid that it’s ok to go to Applebee’s and spend $4.00 for 1 beer on Sunday but I can’t go into Ahpoo’s and buy 6 beers for $4.00 on Sunday. Why is one ok and the other isn’t. Kinda double standard.
Captain Midnight
January 27th, 2010
5:47 pm
Gablue, I hear what your sayin friend and appreciate the civil tone. We all do. However, if you look at anything under a powerful enough microscope, you’re gonna see a problem. We are not going to surrender that flag peacefully or by force. What’s next? Remove the 150 monuments to our fathers in the town squares?Sandblast Stone Mtn? Rename everything MLK,Abernathy,Lowrey etc? It’s not gonna happen. We see what’s happening. The unapologetic assault on our culture.The flag would only be the first step, I promise you. It would not end there.
GaBlue
January 27th, 2010
5:59 pm
Captain, awww man… I appreciate your paranoia. Truly! Mine is off the chart. But who is demanding that you “surrender” your flag? Who is threatening to sandblast an historic carving? IMO, the Confederate flag — that represented treason against our nation — does not belong in our government buildings. Museums, yes. (Or on the front bumper if one’s mullet haircut or hue of the neck does not adequately convey ones allegiances.)
What I’m suggesting is that we take “love thy neighbor” to heart when thinking about this flag. Darkness cannot drive out darkness, only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that.
I’m not willing to trade meaningful relationships in my community and my life now for an old symbol (literally of treason). It’s a personal choice. All I ask of you (whoever is reading this) is to put yourself in someone else’s shoes for a few minutes and think about how it feels. That’s not an assault, is it?
sam
January 27th, 2010
6:04 pm
The ban of alcohol sales on Sundays is a silly, annoying law that makes no sense…and I hardly even drink.
Captain Midnight
January 27th, 2010
6:04 pm
Gablue, if the flags represents treason to you, then you don’t know the definition. The Constitution as it was written fully allowed the secession of the states. No laws were broken when the south left the Union. Common mistake though. Btw, surrender was probably used overdramatically. I’ll give you that. I’m not gonna debate the Civil war here, only how the flag is percieved and understood today and why.
Bring Me the Head of Deforest Kelley
January 27th, 2010
6:05 pm
Sorry, but claiming that the Confederacy had the support of hundreds of thousands of black people is like saying the Nazis had the support of millions of Jews. I guess in a very sick and twisted way, this is true, but you’d have to be pretty sick and twisted to believe this support came willingly.
GaBlue
January 27th, 2010
6:13 pm
Captain, I don’t want to argue about it either. I’m aware that the war wasn’t really about slaves, it was about self-determination vs. taxes and revenue. Whether it was legal is not for me to decide. I do fully believe, however, that the slavery that occurred here was an abomination.
The HONOR that is romanticized in stories of our heritage is REAL to me too! My sense of honor demands that I exercise better (good Southern)manners than to fling that symbol in the faces of those whom it offends. What would I have to gain by doing so anyhow? Nothing! Perhaps you do; that is not for me to say.
frugal voter
January 27th, 2010
6:22 pm
I’ll drink to that! Although, I’ll feel sorry for the independent package store operators. They’ll no longer have a day of rest.
Dj Sniper
January 27th, 2010
6:55 pm
I’ve also heard that the main opposition for Sunday sales doesn’t come from the religious right, but from the restaurant industry.
Roy is a Crook
January 27th, 2010
7:51 pm
Dear Bring Me the Head of Deforest Kelley: More than a few of the high level Nazi’s were jews themselves, including old Adolf himself….He tried to eradicate his jewish blood, but it was still there. I think he even made his home town a military training ground to make it easier to destroy all links to his jewish blood.
Wounded Warrior
January 27th, 2010
11:36 pm
King Roy got rid of video gambling machines because they “were a cancer to GA”. The following week, the change game rolled out by the GA Lottery. He just wanted tap that change. How is video gambling a “cancer to GA” when using the Lottery not the same concept of gambling? King Roy pandered to Cynthia Mckinney’s ilk and got kicked out on his assets.
Chris Mathews is covered in his own spittle because he is drinking, again and becacuse he is a racist.
January 28th, 2010
12:57 am
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/01/27/msnbcs_matthews_on_obama_i_forgot_he_was_black_tonight.html
Bill Orvis White
January 28th, 2010
7:53 am
@Captain Midnight I respect your view that Big Gov’t should stay out of the way on Sunday alchohol purchasing. My experience with the drink was so bad, I had to go cold turkey. I would just like our leaders to lead by good example by showing us that they stay away from the bad juice. But, guess what? We are lacking in leaders who lead a clean Christ-centered existence. Instead, we are treated to installed leaders like Lil Hussein who has beer summits and that drugged-out Kennedy kid who drives under the influence. You have a good governor in your state who I love, but it sounds like he fell down on the job. This King Roy fella sounds much worse. I’m actually praying and rooting for McBerry now-he seems like the real deal instead of that actual Deal guy from up near my aunt’s house.
Barnes Would Sign Sunday Sales — Peach Pundit
January 28th, 2010
8:17 am
[...] Jim Galloway at the AJC does a quick piece on Roy Barnes’ recent statements about Sunday sales: “Yes. It ought to be a local decision. [...]
Yankee 101
January 28th, 2010
9:12 am
Cap’N 12:00am – Why do the rednecks want to pay tribute to a war in which they got their A$$es kicked!!!
Captain Midnight
January 28th, 2010
9:47 am
Good morning Yankee, To answer your question, in my opinion, Native southerners (of which you are not) arn’t “paying tribute” to the war,they’re honoring their ancestors who fought and died defending their homes against what they believed was an invading army. You folks just need to read. It’s all so simple to just say it was all about slavery, and that’s simply not true.I hope this clarifies things a little better for you.
Yankee 101
January 28th, 2010
10:07 am
Didn’t the South start the war by firing on Fort Sumpter? By your arguement The Branch Davidians were just protecting their home from the invading federal government (they fired on federal agents first).
about time
January 28th, 2010
10:22 am
Captain Midnight – Who cares?? For the life of me, I can’t understand why the confederate flag would even be an issue in someones life. don’t you have anything current to worry about? Get out a little. Travel. See the world. Maybe you’ll be a little more open minded.
Captain Midnight
January 28th, 2010
10:31 am
I believe the south did fire on Ft Sumpter SC. States had the right to secede, they still do. The Branch Davidians didn’t.Right or wrong, these men and boys fought and died for a cause and should be remembered and honored. Most native southerners with confederate ancestry feel the same way. You can’t understand, and noone expects you to.
Captain Midnight
January 28th, 2010
10:37 am
About time, Who cares? Lots of people. Mabe the people screamin ‘that flag racist’, ‘that flag represent slavery’ are the ones who need a little more openmindedness. The Naacp cares alot too.Don’t they have more emportant things to worry about? Illiteracy,Illigitamacy,Crime?They’re the ones makin the most noise about it.Tell them to see the world.
Aaron Burr V. Mexico
January 28th, 2010
11:09 am
Even if we assume that a state had a right to secede, by attacking Ft. Sumpter before any kind of treaty between the USA and CSA was signed was a declaration of war from the Confederacy, and as such, was “Causus Belli” against them.
Thus the South was justifiably attacked and defeated. The question of secesion becomes moot.
Captain Midnight
January 28th, 2010
11:33 am
The South sent delegations to Washington D.C. and offered to pay for the federal properties and enter into a peace treaty with the United States. Lincoln rejected any negotiations with Confederate agents on the grounds that the Confederacy was not a legitimate government, and that making any treaty with it would be tantamount to recognition of it as a sovereign government. However, Secretary of State William H. Seward engaged in unauthorized and indirect negotiations that faled.
They tried.
Chris Mathews is covered in his own spittle because he is drinking, again and becacuse he is a racist.
January 28th, 2010
11:50 am
You wanna see racist. Watch this democrat in all his saliva covered glory.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/01/27/msnbcs_matthews_on_obama_i_forgot_he_was_black_tonight.html
Speaking of Illiteracy
January 28th, 2010
12:00 pm
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“Sumter”
“important”
Georgia Whig Party member
January 28th, 2010
12:03 pm
wow, a debate about alcohol leads to a discussion on succession. Only in the south…God bless us.
Hey heres a novel idea, make it a local issue…not like a county issue but like a house by house local issue. If you don’t want to drink on sundays don’t…and if you do then do. I never understood how christianity comes into the discussion of alcohol on sundays. Communion anyone? Legalize it because it doesnt enfringe on my right to, or not to, drink if you are allowed to buy it on sundays.
Christianity is a personal walk with Christ. Its not a call to demand others to conform. How you get others to behave will have no bearing on your own soul, walk the talk, don’t talk the walk. If we did a little more walking the talk this all would be a moot point. Thats a personal statement of my own failures as well as the christian community. I’ll attempt (and fail) to pull the plank of wood from my own eye before I attempt to pull the splinter from someone elses.(thats a christian parable for those of you who don’t know what I talking about, fellow christians will) Then I’ll ask for grace and get it… Please stop hijacking a religion to defend political statements, it doesnt glorify God in anyway.
Georgia Whig Party member
January 28th, 2010
12:04 pm
is it moot point or mute point? I have never figured that out.
Cont.
January 28th, 2010
12:06 pm
It’s moot. Also it’s secession. And infringe.
Georgia Whig Party member
January 28th, 2010
2:09 pm
good to know
Barnes: I Support Sunday Sales : Georgia Liberal
January 28th, 2010
3:01 pm
[...] one of the most pressing issues facing Georgia today, Roy Barnes said he supports Sunday Sells of Alcohol and believes the decision should ultimately be the local [...]
Keith
January 28th, 2010
6:01 pm
Hey, I run a liquor store and I want to sell liquor on Sunday. If anyone thinks it’s some liquor store lobby that opposes this, your wrong. An individual can only own 2 (count them 2) liquor licenses in this state. Convenience store owners and major grocery stores are pushing this legislation. No restrictions on the number of stores that can be owned. You want the law? Fine, then level the playing field. If they can sell on Sunday then allow me to sell also. Anything less I will not support.
sunday, sunday, sunday
January 29th, 2010
12:29 pm
The part of this issue that bothers me the most is the republican candidates won’t address the issue of sunday sales at all. As a moderate republican, if these candidates won’t respond to my emails asking for their stance, they don’t deserve my vote. At least be honest with me. For example, I emailed Karen Handle and got no response but now I am on her spam list and they won’t remove me. No response from Oxendine, Deal, or Johnson either. Obviously they are for keeping this poorly designed law that only promotes drunk driving on sunday by making people drive to a bar or restaurant for a drink but don’t have the courage to state their convictions…thats a poor excuse for a candidate.
TLH
January 29th, 2010
4:10 pm
sunday, sunday, sunday – I sent an email to Oxendine this week too. I have not heard back from him either. Your right about the response thing. They surely do not need my vote.
Something else to note here is that Senator Seth Harp was the one pushing Sundays sales the hardest for the past couple of years. Earlier this year he announed he would be running for the Insurance and Fire Commissioner position which is currently held by John Oxendine, and Oxendine is running for governer. I wonder if that will effect this situation?
ON SUNDAY ALCOHOL SALES « ATLmalcontent
January 29th, 2010
9:36 pm
[...] SUNDAY ALCOHOL SALES Roy Barnes favors it: “Yes. It ought to be a local decision. I believe in local control. It ought to be a local [...]
Big Al
March 14th, 2010
7:31 pm
It is not Roy Barnes who is pandering – it is John Oxidenie who is pandering – to the religious radicals at the expense of our INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS! If you want Sunday Sales in the great state of Georgia to be reality, then please – for the love of God – DEFEAT JOHN OXENDINE! This great state of Georgia cannot afford four years of John Oxendine as its Governor for the next four years