A not-so-public meeting of the House GOP caucus

When last heard from, Speaker pro tem Mark Burkhalter on Monday told members of the House Republican caucus that he would call a 10 a.m. Friday meeting to discuss the preliminaries of an election to replace Speaker Glenn Richardson.

The locale was yet-to-be determined, but would be somewhere in Atlanta. Which might sound strange — given that a perfectly usable state Capitol, in high holiday dressage, sits nearly empty.

But if you’re trying to avoid a media scrum, in part because you have not addressed the basic facts behind a troubling succession crisis, then a public venue is not where you want to host a hundred or so nervous – and perhaps slightly resentful – Republican lawmakers.

So a memo went out this afternoon, under the name of caucus chairman Donna Sheldon of Dacula, asking GOP lawmakers to set their GPS units for the Georgia Tech Research Institute Conference Center at 250 14th St.

A light breakfast, coffee and soft drinks will be served.

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Aaron Burr V. Mexico

December 8th, 2009
6:28 pm

I’m sorry, but last time I checked…this state is still full of morons.

It will take a lot more than this to bring the Georgia Republican party down….but if I’m wrong my respect for Georgians will increase dramatically.

I’m not holding my breath.

Corruption rules U.S.A.

December 8th, 2009
6:43 pm

Intown Lib

December 8th, 2009
9:36 pm

Will they let Jim Galloway inside?

[...] now we know there will be a meeting of the House GOP Caucus on Friday at 10 AM: So a memo went out this afternoon, under the name of caucus chairman Donna Sheldon of Dacula, [...]

Green green

December 8th, 2009
10:23 pm

Sheldon leaked this because…?

DougH

December 9th, 2009
7:28 am

The Repugnicant party is shambles and it just keeps getting worse. They are a great opposition party but they stink when it comes time to leading. They are Conservative when it’s easy and liberal on the hard stuff. It’s easy to cut taxes but hard to live morally upstanding lives. I guess that’s why they capitalized the “C” in Conservative. By changing the word to a proper noun, they can redefine it to mean whatever they want. Right now it means nothing.

After the “excuses” Conservative president Bush raised our debt by $5 trillion dollars and left us with a deficit of $1 trillion dollars in 2009, (with the wars off the books) after failing to protect nearly 3000 Americans in the world trade center, what’s left? The President isn’t responsible for security, he can only cut taxes but create massive debt and continuing deficits as a result, why elect Conservatives? If a Conservative President and a Republican congress can’t balance the budget in 6 years they need to pack up and go home.

Bill Orvis White

December 9th, 2009
8:55 am

Y’all are spineless in the GA House. The Honorable Speaker Richardson fought for the values that y’all care about, but guess what? When the chips were down, no one came to his defense. We’re all flawed. I was on the drink for the better part of my early life. When I spun my 150 out into a Mississippi ditch, I was given a second chance. Why can’t anyone in that House give this amazing politician another chance? Now that you’re kicking him out of town, you’re finding it hard to replace him. I’m going to read about the men who are interested in the job, but I’m disappointed in y’all. My aunt lives in North Georgia and I’m keeping a good eye on what she has to deal with — mainly on private property rights and taxes. I don’t want the state to plow through her yard so that some spoiled Atlanta folk can go climb the mountains just to take pictures.
C’mon you Republicans, get a spine! Stand up for family values, low taxes, self-reliance, voucher systems and home schooling. If you followed those codes, maybe new jobs will pop up.
God Bless and Merry Christmas,
Bill Orvis White

RJ

December 9th, 2009
9:02 am

Bill, you’re a dimbulb. If you knew anything, too many of Richardson’s colleagues came to his defense by saying that they didn’t know anything at the time when questions were being raised. For people like you to say that, “Well the Dems did this and they’re immoral. Glenn just fell off the tracks.” Gimme a break. We’re not talking about the Dems. Stop making this bogus comparison in this argument. We’re talking about the corrupt Republicans who have been running things lately and their track record is abysmal. Most of the GOP members in the GA House need to be flushed out. The slate needs to be wiped clean with bold, honest members. There will be new candidates in 2010 who are excited to take control of the GA House. Check out Tondee’s Tavern and you’ll get to know who there are. Some of them are young lawyers and some are ordinary citizens who want to take Georgia back. It’s time for the corruption to end.

Behind closed doors

December 9th, 2009
9:31 am

These guys would be comfortable in Russia or Iran. That’s how they do the public’s business.
Top secret, ya’ll.

RJ

December 9th, 2009
11:13 am

@Dough You’re totally correct. The national and state GOP are great at playing offense, but when they take the keys of leadership, they fail. The GOP hasn’t had a great leader since Reagan. Both Bushes were failures. Newt was a failure. Sonny Perdue was a failure. Glenn Richardson was a failure.
Love them or hate them, the Dems have a history of long-term success despite the shortcomings of President Carter and assorted politicians like Louisiana’s Rep. Jefferson and Senator Burris.

RetiredSoldier

December 9th, 2009
12:22 pm

RJ-

You lost me at ” Dems have a history of long term success”. Do you include Obama, Reid & Pelsoi in that statement? Do you include the dictator Tom Murphy in that statement? Both sides have flaws, no question about it. But in the end the question is simple one must answer. Do you want more or less government in your life.

I will always chose less, hence I am a Republican.

DougH

December 9th, 2009
12:45 pm

Retired– No, the question is: Do you want good or bad government in your life. I don’t see any less government under Repubs than I did under Democrats. I was just starting to work when Reagan raised my taxes by removing deductions for rental properties and credit card interest. I had both and it hurt. Bush created a new entitlement with Medicare Part-D and added $5 trillion dollars in debt partly by fighting a bogus war (off the books).

Your question, and the illusion the Repubs push are both bogus. Get some responsible leaders in there. Palin, Bush, Newt, Juliani, McCain — is that the best morally and brainpower-wise that the Repubs can bring. Three out of the five have 7 wives between them.

writegirl

December 9th, 2009
12:47 pm

@ Retired Soldier

Does this less government also mean staying out of people’s bedrooms and ovaries?

RetiredSoldier

December 9th, 2009
1:12 pm

DougH-

Morally, no question Republicans fall far short of grace as do many Democrats. Just because one speaks in moral tones doesn’t mean the speaker is immune from mistakes. I would prefer someone that knows right from wrong and fails than someone who says right and wrong makes no difference.

Brainpower? I would put Newt’s “brainpower” up against anyone. Granted many may not like his ideas, but he does come up with many innovative ideas. Lots of wives, they are guilty. But substitute Huckabee, Romney and Chambliss, there is is different “wife” answer.

Whitegirl-

Bedrooms, while I may disagree with what happens there, between consenting adults has become a moot question. Ovaries? I hope I’ll never lose my passionate defense of those unable to speak for themself, the unborn.

DougH

December 9th, 2009
1:15 pm

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention. While Reagan was burdening me with other tax increases he also raised FICA to over 14%. There are not deductions for this tax and it only applies to us middle class and lower in that people making 102K or less have 100% of the income taxed with FICA. Those making several hundred thousand or millions don’t have to worry because the only pay the tax on the first 102K.

Less government and lower taxes has long been a Republican illusion.

DougH

December 9th, 2009
1:35 pm

Newt is smart. I’ll give you that. But where he excels in brainpower he falls down in morals. It’s not enough to speak of right and wrong, you have to live it. There is no excuse for that. I would rather have someone in office that has proven his life by staying with his wife and raising his family than telling me how bad abortion of homosexuality is.

I am a Christian. I think all sin is bad because the Bible says so. I homosexuality is a sin. I think abortion is a sin. But I also know fornication is sinful and the Bible gives one and only one reason for divorce followed by remarriage and that is in the case of adultery. Drunkiness is a sin and so is seeing your neighbor in need and keeping your goods to yourself.

That list might be more conservative that most people that you meet. But I don’t think that it is government’s role to enforce any of it. Government shouldn’t stop you from drinking. Government won’t prevent you from cheating on your wife. Government will not stop those from using contraceptives because the Catholic church believe that its a sin.

I am a Liberal though. Why? Because when the states didn’t have the balls to act, the federal government freed slaves. When the states wouldn’t desegregate school, the federal government did what was right. The guys with the balls were Liberals, Democrat and Republican. Republican party doesn’t seem to have any Liberal today though.

I am a black man an a business owner and so was my father before me. One thing me and my father have in common since he started his business in the 50s. We have both done much better financially under Democratic run governments than Republicas. Every Republican president in my lifetime presided over at least one recession (two if they were two term presidents) I’m raising six children and he raised 14 all of the same wife. I just can’t afford another Republican president.

RetiredSoldier

December 9th, 2009
2:21 pm

DougH-
Like you I also own my own business that I started after I retired from the Army. My business is only 4 plus years old but was doing great under Bush, tell the bottom fell out of the economy. This year under Obama I am down 85%, that’s right 85% in earnings. If healthcare passes and I’m required to provide healthcare, I’ll have to lock the doors. Just can’t afford to provide it.

I don’t disagree with any of you complaints about republicans, though many of thosw tax increase were passed by a democrat congress. My point is the democrats are worse. The debt under w. Bush was terrible, but it pales in commparrison to the new debt under Obama.

As far as reccessions are concerned all presidents are given to much credit for avoiding one or to much blame when one occurs. Much like a QB is in football when team wins and loses. Remember we were in reccession when W. Bush came into office. Mild compared to now, no doubt, but it was there, it’s just the press didn’t want to hurt Gore’s chances at winning so they ignored it until Bush was in office.

Interesting that you brought up slavery, a republican president freed them. A republican president sent troops to Little Rock and Oxford and it took republican votes to pass the Civil Rights Act. Republicans were there my friend. No liberal republicans today? How about Sen Snowe and Collins from Maine. And BTW, where are the conservative democrats? Don’t tell me Ben Nelson et al, they might qualify as moderates but not conservatives.

DougH

December 9th, 2009
4:56 pm

Retired – You are blaming Obama for your bad year? This economy went into recession in December of 2007. BTW we didn’t find that out because the corporate media didn’t have the balls to tell us until after the election because the didn’t want to ruin McCain/Palin’s chances.

Last time I checked, Lincoln was called a Liberal by his Conservative Democratic opponents. Additionally, Kennedy and Johnson were Democrats and caused a the big shift of Conservatives from the Democratic party to the Republican party. Party label mean nothing, ideology is what really matters. The Democratic party was full of Conservatives until the Brown V Board of education and the Voting Rights Act were passed. After those things happened, Johnson knew that Democrats would lose the south for at least a generation. At the time the south was mostly Democrats. Since then, the south has been overwhelmingly Republican.

As for Little Rock, great for that city and a feather in the cap of Ike, but no far reaching effect. Passing a federal law took much more of a commitment and had much wider effect.

Recessions: non in the eight years of Clinton. 2 under Reagan, 1 under Bush 41, and 2 under Bush 43. The first recession under Bush 43 started in March of 2001 and ended in August of the same year. I’ll give you fact the Clinton bares most of responsibility for that one. But wait a minute, you blame Clinton for that mild recession but at the same time you blame Obama for conditions that exist today start actually started a full year and a month before he took office. Inconsistent.

I have provided health insurance to my employees for the last 5 years. The cost has escalated every year by at least 10%. I hope this bill passes and we start on the road to some kind of relief.

RetiredSoldier

December 9th, 2009
5:10 pm

DougH-
Come on here, I am blaming Obama to the extent you were blaming republican presidents for poor economic performance. We didn’t know about the approaching recession before the 2008 election? You are just wrong sir.

Well after reading all of your post I see we can agree to disagree. If you think our policies under the current administration are good, God help us. More particularly God help our children and grandchildren. America as we know it will be gone forever. Now don’t get me wrong, I think the same thing would have occured if John Kerry had been elected.

Socialism is right around the corner. You might think that is a good thing, I don’t. America has been great because of small businessmen like yourself, we will be like dinosaurs after eight years of this administration.

DougH

December 9th, 2009
5:58 pm

If I though socialism was a good think I would go and live in another country. I am an American capitalist. I believe in capitalism and nothing Obama is doing will bring about socialism. I don’t see government run companies in our future. Our banks are paying back the tarp and moving forward on their own.

I don’t share you pessimism about America. I know that this is still the greatest country in the world and that we can do anything we put our minds to. It sounds like you have given up because Obama doesn’t subscribe to the false notion that more tax cuts will solve all of our problems. Bush’s father call that VooDoo economics and rightfully so. We went from 3.6% unemployment to 7.6% losing 750,000 jobs per month with an extra 5 trillion dollars of debt when Bush left office. We never got back below 5% unemployment and he never balanced one budget during his entire presidency but neither did Bush 41 or Reagan for that matter. Clinton balanced his last 3 budgets and paid down debt during his last 2 years in office. He took more government out of my pocket by doing away with the national speed limit.

You are right. We can agree to disagree. I believe in the future of this country. You, in your own words believe: “America as we know it will be gone forever.”

Actually, I don’t believe you feel this way about a country that you served for so many years. I think you’ve been fed the Conservative media scare-speak and you’ve bought it.

Good talking with you. Believe in the promise of America an you will be ok.

Doug — out