My AJC colleague Ernie Suggs sends word that the Human Highlight Film has apparently added flip-flopping to his repertoire of gyrations.
On Thanksgiving evening, during half-time of the Atlanta Hawks – Orlando Magic game, basketball great Dominique Wilkins announced that he was endorsing Kasim Reed for mayor of Atlanta.
That’s fine.
But Wilkins’ endorsement comes less than a month after he recorded a robo-call for Mary Norwood, supporting her for the general election.
“In basketball, you just can’t show up for the game. You have to work very hard every day in practice,” Wilkins said on behalf of Norwood in the 24 second call. “Mary Norwood is someone who has always worked hard for Atlanta and not just on game day. Now it is time for us to help her.”
On Friday, from his hotel room in Philadelphia, where the Hawks are playing the 76ers, Wilkins said that since he recorded the call for Norwood, his political thoughts have changed.
“Mary Norwood is a very nice lady, but Kasim has been a friend of mine for a long time,” said the Hall of Famer, who played more than a decade with the Hawks and who is recognized as the franchise’s greatest player. “He is good people and I think he will make a great leader. He will do a great job of fixing some of the problems we have in Atlanta.”
Wilkins said he was initially unsure of who he was going to support for mayor. He said a friend of his took him to meet Norwood in October and he was impressed. But he said that since that endorsement, and watching the race play out, he decided that Reed was the better choice for him.
“He has the leadership skills that make a great leader,” Wilkins said. “I think he will do a good job in a long line in the good mayors of Atlanta.”
Efforts to reach the Norwood campaign have thus far been unsuccessful. But we’ll add any comments as we get them. Wilkins said he did talk to Norwood before announcing his switch to Reed.
“She understood,” Wilkins said.
It is still unclear who Julius “Dr. J” Erving, who endorsed Lisa Borders in the general election, is supporting in the runoff.
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311 comments Add your comment
Raygunius Delmacio
November 27th, 2009
2:03 pm
Hope Kasim manages the City of Atlanta’s money better than Dominque managed his. Atlanta is a black city and needs a black mayor.
Tom
November 27th, 2009
2:05 pm
Ouch!
OMG
November 27th, 2009
2:06 pm
interesting…. why the flip flop?
Cynthia
November 27th, 2009
2:09 pm
Norwood’s campaign is falling apart…no wonder they’re so desperate.
BlahBlahBlah
November 27th, 2009
2:10 pm
Meanwhile – You STILL haven’t uploaded the mailer Norwood sent out against Reed.
What’s it been? 4 days? But the anti-Norwood mailers were up on your blog within HOURS.
Psalms
November 27th, 2009
2:13 pm
Kasim Reed is a blessed young man and will make a great Mayor.
Jarquaizem Devonta
November 27th, 2009
2:15 pm
http://www.atlantaprogressivenews.com/news/0546.html
Sammy
November 27th, 2009
2:16 pm
After actually speaking to Mary Norwood, Dominique must’ve realized he made a horrible mistake. Most people would do the same if they took the time to see who she really was or wasn’t.
Mike K.
November 27th, 2009
2:16 pm
“Atlanta is a black city and needs a black mayor.”
I’m sure that comes as a surprise to its white and non-black minority constituents.
The Late Maynord Jackson
November 27th, 2009
2:17 pm
Kasim Reed will be a great mayor. He has the Jackson Machine’s best interest at heart.. VOTE Kasim Reed EARLY & OFTEN…
T-Steel
November 27th, 2009
2:17 pm
How does this mean Norwood’s campaign is falling apart? What I see is a “coalescing” of black power players/brokers in Atlanta around the black candidate Kasim Reed. Even though I don’t live in Atlanta, I am hardly surprised at this. I’m originally from Detroit, MI (lived in Metro Atlanta for the past 9 years) but this happened in Detroit all the time when it looked like a non-black had some momentum. The black political machine would ramp up and PRESTO, the non-black candidate will start losing black endorsements. It’s a time honored ploy that black, white, and latino politicians have used when they have the numbers. Not surprised at all.
Raygunius Delmacio
November 27th, 2009
2:21 pm
Mike K….what that meen?
Just another thief...
November 27th, 2009
2:21 pm
http://www.blackcommentator.com/178/178_cover_negro_corporate_politician_dixon.html
Razor
November 27th, 2009
2:21 pm
What do Adam Lambert and Kasim Reed have in common?
They both can put on one heck of a crotch dance.
ATLResident
November 27th, 2009
2:23 pm
Watch the commercials for Reed and Norwood. She is walking around the streets with old black folks, while Reed is sitting and talking with old white folks. Tell me this campaign isnt about race..
C-ya
November 27th, 2009
2:24 pm
OK – as an employed white resident of the city who’s sick and tired of the corruption, sweetheart deals and theft that happens at city hall, I say go ahead, elect the thug Kasim. I (and many of my fellow taxpayers) are leaving – enough is enough. Maynard-Bill-Shirley-Kasim – nothing but more and more corruption. It’s clear you don’t want white people living in your city – fine – you can have it.
Chaos
November 27th, 2009
2:30 pm
One can only imagine how bad things are at the Reed camp now, with the people who are disgusted with the strong arm tactics of the more militant members of the Reed staff.
The fear that Reed is losing grassroot support among people who are completely turned off by his campaign tactics can’t be making for happy times in his camp.
It looks like Reed is putting all of his eggs in the endorsement blanket as an open admission that Reed is simply not getting it done when it relates to his dealings with the average voter in Atlanta.
N-quisitive
November 27th, 2009
2:34 pm
C-ya, If the white residents leave who will pay the taxes????
Southwest Atlanta
November 27th, 2009
2:36 pm
We are a family that lived in the forgotton side of the city – Southwest Atlanta on Campbellton Road. Kasim Reed did not once come in to my neighborhood to see what my needs were but Mary Norwood did. Trash litters the streets, gunshots litter the sky but yet we keep electing a mayor that gladhands to the black elite in this city. Unfortunately we will continue to end up in the same situation over and over…if you keep on the same thing and getting the same response and clearly you need change it’s time you changed it up to get a different response.
It’s unfortunate that “black” Atlanta can’t see beyond the color of someone’s skin and feel that “black” Atlanta has to band together to elect a black mayor not the best canidate. Kasim Reed is part of the same old same old that has keep Atlanta late to every party…but some of Atlanta doesn’t care because it’s fashionable to be late…it just doesn’t work for our family anymore – we have left the egotistical political machine that makes up Atlanta. Atlanta will be stuck in the same grind till they stand back and take a fresh look, not follow the crowd.
Atlanta rez
November 27th, 2009
2:38 pm
I think people are starting to realize that Mary will not be a good leader for this City. We are not a small town, this is Atlanta and big moves and deals happen. We need someone who can cut through the mustard and Mary is still stuck in the peanut butter. She is no good for as a Mayor. She is best as a community rep or NPU leader-not Mayor. Seriously, all bull crapp aside. Kasim Reed and Clair Muller is best for Atlanta. No creeps like Ceasar and Mary who are fined for using taxpayers money on their family members!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wow
November 27th, 2009
2:41 pm
What is Chaos talking about?! Every time I have been around the Kasim campaign, there are more and more new people asking how they can help!
Of course Wilkins changed his mind once he learned about the candidates! Reed is the only one with a record of doing anything other than visiting people and having tea or a bite to eat. And it is a very compelling record. Mary has done nothing for any corner of this city. All she has done with her time and money as a council person is run for mayor. That’s a big 8-year waste of my considerable tax dollars, if you ask me!
BlahBlahBlah
November 27th, 2009
2:44 pm
This is a prime example of someone being PRESSURED to do something they don’t want to do. It’s sickening.
Falling apart
November 27th, 2009
2:46 pm
Is the Reed camp so worried about the infighting among staff coming out that they have taken to the blogs to try to limit the damage?
You're a pig Jim
November 27th, 2009
2:47 pm
Jim it’s clear you’re a Reed supporter. I ‘Reed’ your posts and saw you at the debate. You’re nothing but a big fat big who’s sucking at Reed’s teet.
Dominique embarrasses himself
November 27th, 2009
2:53 pm
If Dominique had any business acumen at all, he would have had his endorsement flip-flop sponsored by the Waffle House.
The endorsement has already proven to be an embarrassment for the Reed campaign, which failed to thoroughly vet his statement, which led to the following debacle that spilled out of Dominique’s mouth.
“He has the leadership skills that make a great leader,” Wilkins said. “I think he will do a good job in a long line in the good mayors of Atlanta.”
Now the Reed camp has got to figure out a way to undo the damage caused by Dominique tying Reed in the voters’ minds to the likes of Bill Campbell.
Not a good day for the Reed campaign, to say the least.
BlahBlahBlah
November 27th, 2009
2:56 pm
Wilkins is a liar – inside scoop is that he never actually spoke to Mary and told her he was flip flopping. He’s a coward.
Disaster for Reed
November 27th, 2009
3:03 pm
Wilkins’ endorsement has become yet another disaster in a series of recent disasters by the Reed campaign. Not only has Wilkins been ridiculed for his flip-flopping, he made it even worse by implying Reed will be a good mayor, just like Bill Campbell was!
No word yet as to if the Reed camp will release a statement to minimize the damage.
zanesmith's teeth
November 27th, 2009
3:04 pm
That’s all well and good, but who did Spud Webb endorse???
Dominique
November 27th, 2009
3:10 pm
Bill Campbell was a great mayor, we together partied in the VIP lounge of my club many times. My good friend, Kasim Reed, will be just as good as Bill Campbell.
New product launch
November 27th, 2009
3:15 pm
The Under a Dollar store is pleased to announce the addition of the Dominique Wilkins flip-flop to its footwear line.
It’s being marketing with the tag line; It’s Worthless, And It Last Less Than A Month.
Early reports indicate Atlanta area consumers aren’t buying it.
Keith
November 27th, 2009
3:26 pm
What a joke! Dominique lost his black street cred and had to get it back.
Dick Whitman
November 27th, 2009
3:27 pm
Same old garbage again and again…. Nothing will ever change now .. Atlanta’s future in NOT
Dick Duke
November 27th, 2009
3:28 pm
I also wish to endorse Mr Reed.
Lee
November 27th, 2009
3:31 pm
I have lost all respect for Wilkins …. this stinks.
DOTTIE
November 27th, 2009
3:32 pm
k. reed is a black,evil thug associated with some of the top criminals from as far north as DC and south as FL…I know them…they are threatening people in the community…e-mailing people to voluteer for $10.00 an hour…the money being paid out is coming from these criminals who have a hold on k. reed… and if he wins k.reed has to follow these criminals orders in running the city…who do you think allowed s. franklin’s daughter to skip jail time…they are all in this together…atlanta is about to become a city run by big city criminals… he can go to jail right now…we got the goods on him; he will be shocked k. reed is really not smart enough to cut the deals s. franklin cut
How it's playing out
November 27th, 2009
3:33 pm
It will be interesting to see how the Reed camp plays this out, now that this endorsement has blown up in their faces by Dominique equating Reed in the voters’ minds to Bill Campbell.
Will the Reed camp be able to distance themselves away from Dominique’s statements, without looking like they are distancing themselves from Dominique?
drsoul
November 27th, 2009
3:43 pm
Kasim ‘Baby Bill Campbell’ Reed…watch out for people who vote for this man as they are supreme supporters of crime, thievery of your city money, coverup, corruption, bad neighborhoods…etc. they are greedy for themselves only and very racist; non-christian and very manipulating.. no self-esteem or pride in themselves, family or Atlanta.. they are a ‘cancer’ on our society..no matter the ethnicity.. this statement has no eyes for race or ethnicity; it is for ‘Citizens for a Prideful Atlanta’…ALL CITIZENS.. if the above does not identify you, then we know you and Norwood will lead us out of this sewer the REEDS and past regimes have put us in and will clean up our precious Atlanta..!!!
@Galloway
November 27th, 2009
3:43 pm
This made for a good laugh.
lmno
November 27th, 2009
3:46 pm
Where is the guy who stole the signs?
Can we put up a reward to find him? All we need is that guy and we will know who is a lying scumbag and who isn’t.
Shirley endorement for Reed, Reed say "he will clean up the mess at City Hall"
November 27th, 2009
3:53 pm
Love the Reed statement in Reed’s latest campaign commercial.
Yeah he is going to clean up the mess at City Hall….
the mess Franklin, Young etc created?
It don’t add up Kasim!
Matt C.
November 27th, 2009
3:55 pm
Raygunius, you are nothing but a racist…period.
Andie
November 27th, 2009
4:03 pm
I have been watching, listening, observing both Mr. Reed and Mrs.Norwood; and one can tell a whole lot about a person and their character by way of words spoken out of their own mouth’ whether they are sincere or not. Folks…he is not for your or mine or for Atlanta’s best interest!
She is telling the truth and is the one who you can bank on in your best interest in moving Atlanta forward in a clean safe classy way for all of the citizens of Atlanta!!! When she spoke of possibly finding her police chief from in-house within the department; she hit the ball out the ballpark; and the nail on the head! We need a police chief that originates from Atlanta and not from out of town, but someone who knows what the hell is going on in this city and if given the chance and opportunity to serve as police chief from within the police department selected by Mayor Norwood…He or She will start out kicking azz’ on the crime going on all over Atlanta!
To bring someone from out of town who knows very little about the way of life in Atlanta; would be just another grave mistake bringing in a stranger to try and tame crime here Mr. Reed!!!
We taxpayers cannot afford to spend frivolousy the little money that the city has on budget; searching in all the wrong places for a stranger who knows nothing about Atlanta and its crime; except for what they hear on the news and read on the internet! “Too Dangerous” look what happened when your outgoing chief has done!!!….really NOTHING!!! he could never be found or was out of town or was hiding from the people of Atlanta when all this crime was and still is going on!!! Enough is Enough Dammit!!! Kasim Reed has not a clue about what it takes to be mayor of Atlanta.
It is said that he was raised by city hall for what 11-years!!! And he still not know how to tackle this crime ridden city! He wants to get in and get hands on the money and seek out elsewhere for chief of police and we the taxpayers should have a say so about what does not work by way of that route for “ATLANT’s CITIZENS” This is our money that pays these folks salary when we hire them to represent US! Speak up Citizens of Atlanta….’Say “NO MORE’ lets start fresh, lets start over, lets move in a cleaner safer positive direction with grace…”VOTE FOR CHANGE” Vote for Mary Norwood as our next mayor of Atlanta and lets work hand in hand with her to clean it up all over this city, not just parts of it but all of this city! Vote For Mary Norwood and you will see change.
Emily
November 27th, 2009
4:06 pm
I honestly don’t think either Norwood or Reed will make a good mayor for Atlanta. Norwood seems to be good at talking a good talk and convincing people that she cares about their problems, but I’m not so sure she’ll do much of anything in office. I mean, look at her record. She did as little as possible on city council. I think she’ll do anything– including lie, cheat, steal, smear–to get elected as mayor because she wants the title and the prestige and maybe she wants to bring in her friends (Republicans) to run the city and run out all the blacks. I just don’t trust her. And I don’t trust Reed either. I think he’s pretending, too. I just don’t think he has the citizens’ interests at heart. He’s made a very nice living as a corporate attorney, defending them against “the little guy”. As mayor, who do you think he will align himself with? And I have yet to hear either one of them talk about what they propose to do, as in a plan, for Atlanta. Norwood–all she does is point out the problems, but has offered no well-thought-out solutions. Reed–he doesn’t say much of anything that seems well-thought-out. He just repeats what the others have said in debates. Neither one of them is worth supporting, as far as I can tell. I hope I’m wrong about..well, whoever ends up getting elected, I guess.
How does the Reed camp respond?
November 27th, 2009
4:11 pm
Is the Reed camp is at a total loss at how to undo the damage from this disaster of an endorsement? Right when they hoped to get momentum from a new ad vowing Reed will clean up City Hall, the Wilkins’ endorsement blows up in their face as Wilkins ties Reed to the legacy of Bill Campbell.
They don’t want to distance themselves from Wilkins, but they are at a total loss of how to distance themselves from Wilkins tying Reed to Campbell, without insulting Wilkins.
Is this a fatal blow to the Reed campaign? Will those who tied their political career hopes to endorsing Reed now start to back off?
TPM
November 27th, 2009
4:12 pm
Does Dominique live in Atlanta?
shannon
November 27th, 2009
4:14 pm
zanesmith’s teeth : hahahahahaha and what does Doc Rivers and Tree rollins,heck Kon Koncak think too lol
MC W
November 27th, 2009
4:16 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cugtdSrr4zM
Here’s my new video.
Poor Dominique. He probably received more than his share of hate for the prior endorsement…
shannon
November 27th, 2009
4:18 pm
Jon Koncak sorry
IdaHere
November 27th, 2009
4:22 pm
People please learn to read. The quote from Dominique above reads:He has the leadership skills that make a great leader,” Wilkins said. “I think he will do a good job in a long line in the good mayors of Atlanta.”
How does anyone who has at least a 3rd grade education relate his quote (1) to just black mayors; (2) to Bill Campbell: If one does not think that Bill Campbell did a good job, well he is not in a long line in the good mayors of Atlanta PERIOD Stop grabbing at straws, there is no damage control that needs to be done!
Congratulations, Dominique for waking up and smelling the coffee. Anyone who reviews the records of achievement for the City of Atlanta by Mary Norwood and Kasim Reed, knows that her record cannot come close to what Kasim accomplished as a State Representative and State Senator.
Furthermore, Atlanta is a great cosmopolitan city, an international city and a city too busy to hate! We need the expertise of Kasim Reed who is articulate, knows policy and is known for working across party-lines to achieve on behalf of the people. As our State Senator, he was accessible, easy to approach, and delivered for seniors, teachers, youth, and all citizens of Fulton County and Atlanta.
Mary Norwood visited our neighborhood many times over the past 8 years, but did not speak-up not one time as a Council person. It is amazing that she has so many complaints now that she is running for Mayor, but never addressed these same issues as a member of the City Council for the past 8 years! She wasted taxpayers money by running for Mayor for 8 years!!! Speaking of machine support, what about the biggest Machine behind Mary Norwood who once served as Mayor??
If I recall correctly, the next Mayor will be the 59th for the City of Atlanta. Four (4) have been black. Do you want me to believe that among the 54 white Mayors there was NO corruption, the city advanced, and blacks were given their fair-share of progress? Well I did my homework and it just didn’t happen that way.
I am not voting based on race, but on qualifications, readiness to lead our great city forward, and who can best represent Atlanta, on the local, state, national and international levels. Based on his record, Kasim will get the job done.
hoodtechie
November 27th, 2009
4:27 pm
Raygunius Delmacio is typical of most uninformed blacks in this town.i guess portland,or is a white city that needs a white mayor.try printing that and see if you don’t draw the ire from the naacp,sclc,etc…as a african american i am ashamed at the the way the the black community is reacting to this race.just goes to show you we have a long way to go.
Raygunius Delmacio
November 27th, 2009
4:31 pm
IdaHere
“the next Mayor will be the 59th for the City of Atlanta. Four (4) have been black. Do you want me to believe that among the 54 white Mayors there was NO corruption, the city advanced, and blacks were given their fair-share of progress?”
YOU ARE SO WRITE, ATLANTA IS A BLACK CITY & NEEDS A BLACK MAYOR..
Huh
November 27th, 2009
4:36 pm
Not sure why Dominique’s opinion is important on this matter. He lives in Gwinnett, anyway.
Seems to me, really qualified candidates are generaly missing from politics.
As expected the Reed supporters respond
November 27th, 2009
4:38 pm
The damage control has begun for the Reed supporters. It appears the strategy is act as though Wilkins never tied Campbell to Reed, though clearly he did. Not Wilkins fault, he’s not a professional politician. The Reed camp should have done a much better job prepping him.
Now it seems like they are going to go on the attack and portray Reed a man of the people, since they know they are being slaughtered on this due to Norwood’s accessibility to the voters during her time in office.
It appears that there has become a real critical mass of grassroots support for Mary, even in perceived Reed strongholds, something that can only be gained by the credibility of meeting so many grassroots people over the years. It’s why the Reed public relations machine is trying so hard to attack it, because at this late date there is really no way to reinvent Reed as a man of the people without resorting to marketing tactics.
Andie
November 27th, 2009
4:39 pm
Norwood will be the best bet in this race for mayor this time and in this era in all our lives; and it truely has not a thing to do with what color a person’s skin is but this time learning to sample and taste different flavors of kool-aid’ Don’t be afraid of change; aren’t we all tired of the crime that is going on all over this city!!!????
Let’s take this city back from the azzes that think that they are winning in committing all this crime!!!
Let’s get mad as hell and say we’re not gonna take it anymore!!!
Let’s demand that the new mayor and new police chief they choose…patrol the streets of Atlanta in crime ridden neighborhoods so they can see up close and front; making recorded notes if they have to about the visuals seen , and the solutions needed to clean it up and run crime out of Atlanta!!!
We wants the citizens from all over Metropolitan Atlanta to meet up in town hall meetings with the police chief and his or her boss the Mayor of Atlanta to listen to suggestions from the citizens of Atlanta that will quickly eradicate a lot of the crime problems and to come up with permenant solutions of not letting it result in temporary photo ops’ for the media!!!
I’m still mad as hell about being let down by the mayor that is presently sitting and will be leaving office!!!
I was sexually assaulted by a young person where I am residing; while sitting just outside the door on a hot summer night in June of this year 2009; and put on hold when I escaped to make it inside to call for help using 911 and being put on hold by an electronic 911 operator!!! Lets all work with Mary Norwood and clean city hall and the streets up; because our money is what mainly runs this city in taxes! “SPEAK UP” in your vote come December.
The quote says it all
November 27th, 2009
4:49 pm
“He has the leadership skills that make a great leader,” Wilkins said. “I think he will do a good job in a long line in the good mayors of Atlanta.”
So ingrained they are in the political machine, they don’t even see how damaging the quote truly is. It shows, once and for all, that the Reed camp is catering to people who want more of the same in Atlanta.
Norwood’s supporters want change.
The quote says it all.
The Late Maynord Jackson
November 27th, 2009
4:56 pm
Just what’s wrong with Bill Campbell? So he did a little time in jail after the feds spent years trying to catch him. He was a man of the machine, he did his time and took care of the machine.
The Late Maynord Jackson
November 27th, 2009
5:01 pm
Kasim Reed is a great man, he will be a great Mayor, just like the black mayors before him. Vote Kasim Reed early and often…
hhh
November 27th, 2009
5:04 pm
WHO CARES WHO a basketball player endorses??!?!?!?
IdaHere
November 27th, 2009
5:08 pm
ATLANTA IS A PROGRESSIVE CITY AND NEEDS A PROGRESSIVE MAYOR TO MOVE FORWARD!
Hoodtechie, since when is a name like Raygunius Delmacio a black person?? Get real, who even believes that you are black???
MOVING ON– one can project what one will do in the future, by what they have already done. Senator Reed served in the state legislature for 11 years, and for most of those years under a Republican governor. in the General Assembly where the GOP called the shots. Yet Reed accomplished most of his pro-Atlanta legislation through partnering with rural and suburban Republicans. This points to his leadership ability and the fact that he does not let politics get in the way of delivering on behalf of the people. He worked productively with all people, at all times keeping the interest of the people at heart. It is interesting to note that most of his fellow State legislators, black and white, Democrat and Republican endoresed his candidacy!. Atlanta will certainly have a voice at the State House, when Kasim speaks!
Reed is very humble, and the first to recognize the limits of his power, smart enough to work within the limits of that power by reaching out to those around him who are more knowledgeable in certain areas. I was impressed with how he gave Lisa Borders credit for all of her great ideas for governing the City of Atlanta. I am sure he will call upon her expertise and others as he moves forward!
Hats off to the Reed Campaign Staff, friends, supporters, who have worked hard and stayed above the riff-raff! I admire the diversity, energy and compassion you have to make our city a better place for all Atlantans. Stay focused and keep up the good work, you are just about there!!!
An Observation
November 27th, 2009
5:12 pm
Does Wilkins even live within the city limits of Atlanta and eligible to vote? Kasim Reed is more of the same….Campbell, Franklin, etc.
People wake up and realize that something different is needed in the ATL at this time. The status quo, which is what Reed would be, is not change. The same people (holding onto the funding) within the Georgia legislature will still not want to work with the City of Atlanta with Reed in charge. The airport issues will remain the same (the same few people receiving all the benefits); sewer, roads and transportation will not get better but worse!!!! If you vote for Reed, just wait as see. Don’t get caught up in all the racist posturing.
Is IdaHere Stephanie Ramage in disguise?
November 27th, 2009
5:14 pm
Is IdaHere Sunday Paper columnist Stephanie Ramage, or just lifting her column word for word to parrot a Reed talking point.
Google the phrase, Reed is very humble and the first to recognize the limits of his power, and you can see it for yourself.
Busted!
Leaving so soon IdaHere?
November 27th, 2009
5:21 pm
Seems that IdaHere left rather quickly after being busted for parroting Stephanie Ramage word for word.
Chris Murphy, Atlanta, GA
November 27th, 2009
5:36 pm
Dominique doesn’t live in the city, and last I heard, neither does Dr. J (Dr. J owns a golf course in DeKalb that needs a ton o’work). Not that it matters- to me- “celebrity” endorsements are the same as product endorsements: what did the endorser get?
ND
November 27th, 2009
5:38 pm
Dominique Wilkins lives in Lilburn, so he can’t vote in the election anyway.
The Late Maynord Jackson
November 27th, 2009
5:41 pm
I’m new here, is it against the rules to copy someone like IdaHere /Stephanie Ramage just did? Do they sit in the corner or get a time out?
Raygunius Delmacio
November 27th, 2009
5:43 pm
Is IdaHere really Stephanie Ramage? Who is Stephanie Ramage?
wow
November 27th, 2009
5:43 pm
@Imno – Want to find the guy who stole the signs? Mary Norwood has now hired him!! After he showed up at her campaign wanting her to pay him to say Kasim’s people paid him for the signs. Hmm. Wonder why he thought she would be the kind of person who would pay him to lie? Probably because another of her supporters paid him to make the fake video in the first place. What a joke. Clearly the campaign is that desperate for supporters to actually hire this guy, no matter what the truth was in the first place…
General Sherman
November 27th, 2009
5:50 pm
It is just a black thang.
Bama Fan
November 27th, 2009
5:51 pm
It has been a long day but we are finally ahead. Too bad Atlanta will not get ahead.
Bama Fan
November 27th, 2009
6:00 pm
We have WON… Tech is going to beat UGA like a drumb tomorrow..ROLL TIDE.
PoliticOracle
November 27th, 2009
6:03 pm
It seems there are some mad Norwood posters on this thread. Are y’all suggesting that Wilkins can’t choose who HE wants to support? Are you suggesting he owes Mary Norwood his endorsement? Well, he doesn’t. I actually think his endoresement is unimportant in comparison to those from: Joe Wilkins (R) State Rep. from Sandy Springs, State Rep. Kathy Ashe, State Rep. Karla Drenner, State Sen. David Adelman, City Council Pres. Lisa Borders, Councilman Ivory Young, Councilman C.T. Martin, State Sen. Nan Orrock, The Atlanta Police Union, Atlanta Progressive Firefighters, Rev. Joe Lowery, State Sen. Jim Martin and Gov. Roy Barnes. I could go on, but I think you all get the point. Kasim Reed has risen to the top in this race.
Its unfortunate that that the Norwooders have resorted to prejudice and bigotry to get thier point across, but when you don’t have much else to talk about I guess you’ve gotta do what you’ve gotta do.
@Raygunius Delmacio, is so transparent. All smart bloggers on this thread recognize your racist sarcasm. Your exaggerated ethnic name isn’t fooling any one and it is quite shameful that you Norwooders are resorted to these tactics. That includes you too, the late Maynord Jackson.
I like the point someone made earlier that Wilkins didn’t malign Reed in anyway to Bill Campbell. Atlanta has had 58 mayors and 54 of them have been white and they too had their share of not so honorable leaders, but Maynard Jackson, Andrew Young did a fine job as mayor. Their policies and programs put this city on an upward trajectory not seen before. I think Mayor Franklin did on o.k. Job as mayor, but as Kasim said her enthusiasm toward her role waned as time progressed. She took a very courageous stance against the corruption of the Campbell administration and reformed the city’s ethics rules (Norwood voted against the rules by the way). She also undertook the momentous task of overhauling the sewers. The jury is still out on her overall performance, but I think history will show Mayor Franklin to be a great Mayor.
Bottom line is, I hope Reed and Norwood have near fool-proof plans for election day because it will allow come down to turnout on Dec. 1.
I'm for Mary
November 27th, 2009
6:06 pm
I’m a early 40’s black man, who is voting for Mary…again. It’s time for a change…I don’t personally know Kasim or Mary, but I feel Kasim would be a continuation of the same thing. I feel Mary is going to go in and clean up the crap in city hall. We need someone to address the panhandling problem (as opposed to homelessness), I think Mary could do it. I talk to a lot of people and many are pulling for Mary, there are many people who are not admitting publicly that they’re for her, all of these people are black. It’s funny how us blacks are almost ashamed to support change when it’s a white person running against a black person, but many whites proudly voted for and helped elect Obama.
Raygunius Delmacio
November 27th, 2009
6:10 pm
PoliticOracle “racist sarcasm” HELL you think a black city needs a black mayor.
PoliticOracle
November 27th, 2009
6:19 pm
@Delmacio
Nope, I think EVERY city needs a GOOD Mayor. Norwood has demonstrated nothing that brings me even close to believing she has the skills to lead this city. Sorry, but I can’t vote white for the hell of it. Reeds got the leadership in this city standing with him and I believe this city is headed in the right direction with him at the helm.
Raygunius Delmacio
November 27th, 2009
6:21 pm
PoliticOracle…bull
wow
November 27th, 2009
6:22 pm
How is it that people keep referring to Kasim as more of the same and Mary as change when she is the one that has been in city hall for 8 years?! “More of the same” clearly means black and “change” means white. Racism (especially internalized oppression) when masked is even scarier than when it is overt.
Wow, Kasim Reed's endorsers tell us so.
November 27th, 2009
6:27 pm
How is it, wow asks, that people keep referring to Kasim Reed as more of the same?
Simple. Kasim Reed’s endorsers tell us so!
“He has the leadership skills that make a great leader,” Wilkins said. “I think he will do a good job in a long line in the good mayors of Atlanta.”
Hey wow, if even the great Dominique Wilkins says Kasim is going to be more of the same, who are we to argue with him?
Glad to have cleared that up for you Wow.
Who's mad?
November 27th, 2009
6:33 pm
Seems to me politicOracle, that the only person who might be mad is IdaHere, who quickly hightailed it OuttaHere upon being busted for parroting Stephanie Ramage.
And yes Wilkins can support who he wants to support. I’m quite sure Norwood didn’t want to lose the endorsement, but I’m just as sure they are happy it’s turned into a public relations disaster.
Dominique Wilkins' early holiday present to Norwood
November 27th, 2009
6:37 pm
We the supporters of Kasim Reed, and the supporters of change for Atlanta, are pleased to announce the support of Dominique Wilkins, who promises us that a vote for Reed is a vote for more of the same.
Wait! That didn’t come out right! Where’s the staffer who was supposed to vet Dominique’s statement? Someone get the public relations staff on the phone stat!
bp
November 27th, 2009
6:40 pm
long line of good mayors?you mean the ones before maynard right?
drsoul
November 27th, 2009
6:43 pm
The sad situation is that REED supporters actually think that he is a LEADER???? he is a ‘hand picked’ candidate by the ‘political corruption regime’ that has held Atlanta and City Hall hostage for so many years… denied you services, wasted your funds, covered up corruption and family and friend patronage to waste dollars away from much needed city services… but, the people who vote for REED believe in this corruption…they have to be a natural part of that life, black or white, or they could not support REED…he is another extension of their character… they do not know any better.. they think that Atlanta has really grown and is a public servant to it’s citizenry over the last 20 years, when it has stolen you blind.. that is all that REED and his followers understand… look amongst you at these supporters…just more of the same Jackson, Campbell, Franklin… you might as well sit down and burn your tax dollars rather than pay them as it will wind up the same..!!!
Leadership is not something these people understand…they have not seen it in years and years, just the ‘robber barrons’ of city hall and REED cannot wait to stuff his pockets.. these supporters are no different… if that is the character that defines you, so be it.. but, be a proud and honest person and vote NORWOOD…for progressive actions…clean the city up and return it to the voters, not run it completely off the cliff…!!!!
drsoul
November 27th, 2009
6:47 pm
Franklin did not do anything about the sewers until the courts mandated it…she is like campbell, she sucks the city dry…and, ETHICS???? not a word in her vocabulary or ethics or character… look at her entire family…!!!! Oracle, you need to give REED his money back..your ramblings have no credibility..!!!
PoliticOracle
November 27th, 2009
6:48 pm
@Delmacio
Yeah, I’m full of bull. That’s why I don’t have an ignorant sarcastic handle like yours.
No one is paying attention to your unfactual, innuendo-based comments.
PoliticOracle clarify please
November 27th, 2009
6:49 pm
PoliticOracle, please clarify who you are referring to when you use the term Norwooders. Do you mean the Norwood family? Do you mean Norwood staffers? Do you mean Norwood endorsers? Do you mean typical Norwood voters?
Or are you referring to isolated examples of anonymous bloggers, without a single shred of evidence to connect them, in any capacity, to anybody even remotely considered a legitimate part of the Norwood for mayor staff?
Please clarify.
Jason
November 27th, 2009
6:53 pm
Any guesses on the percentage of stupid posts here that are from people supporting one candidate are really from supporters of the other candidate trying to make the first candidate look bad? I’d say about 60% overall with 90% of the race related ones being trolls.
The numbers support Jason
November 27th, 2009
7:00 pm
Jason has a point. The Reed campaign has confirmed it, releasing a report that states 112% of the posts that make Reed supporters look bad are really from Norwood supporters masquerading as Reed supporters.
When asked about the veracity of the 112% figure, the Reed campaign stood by the numbers, saying they had been verified by Mitzi Bickers.
PoliticOracle
November 27th, 2009
7:03 pm
@drsoul
Since I’m rambling, tell me one ethics violation that Franklin has committed. And as I’ve told other Norwood spin-doctors, I’m not a part of any campaign and even if I was CAN YOU REFUTE MY COMMENTS!
When you’re done with your futile attempts to connect me to the Reed camp, tell me what money Mayor Franklin has taken. She took a $40k pay cut coming in the door and furloughed herself, which couldve been prevented of the posturing city council had enacted the modest tax increase in 2008.
I’m no fan of Reed’s , but any wise eye can see that Norwood’s a joke. I think Franklin was the wrong personality type for a mayor, but she’s a darn good leader. You’re either ignorant or disingenious to lay the whole of this economic meltdown on her back. If that’s the case elected officials all over this country, including Sonny Perdue and the leaders in Gwinnet County, need to be out of office.
You people have proven yourselves to be nothing more than pessimistic rabble-rousers just like Ms. Daisy, I mean Mary Norwood.
wow
November 27th, 2009
7:11 pm
PoliticOracle, you made my day. I am losing faith in humanity and in my city over this mayor’s race. So sad that so much racism is being spewed under terms like “more of the same.” I can’t imagine how a long line of good mayors is assumed to mean only the black ones for some or only before the black ones for others. We will be the laughing stock of the nation if we elect Ms Daisy/Norwood/Sarah Palin as mayor. Leaving Georgia would be like traveling in Europe was during the George W years!
Raygunius Delmacio
November 27th, 2009
7:12 pm
PoliticOracle….”I’m no fan of Reed’s”..talk out of both sides of your mouth don’t you? I agree Reed will be 4 more years of Franklin.
PoliticOracle
November 27th, 2009
7:12 pm
My usage of the term “Norwooders” is to those that support Mary Norwood on this thread. Are you ashamed of this association?
I mean in no derrogatory way. I’m not here to offend anyone. Just to share factual analysis of this election and to combat the ignorance and lies being spewed on here. Its not right to sit by and no the truth and not share. If Norwood is going to win, let it be on her own merits and no myths, rumor and innuendo. Let’s not divide the city, but let the candidates run on merit though that puts Norwood at a disadvantage because of her thin record.
Driving Ms. Daisy
November 27th, 2009
7:13 pm
Mary Norwood as Ms. Daisy PolitcOracle? Surely after your 6:03 post, you wouldn’t be trafficking in stereotypes.
PoliticOracle clarify please
November 27th, 2009
7:18 pm
Well PoliticOracle we hope you aren’t insinuating that all Norwood supporters are resorting to the reprehensible tactics you so rightly pointed out earlier. Or even insinuating they are typical of Norwood supporters.
And no, I don’t think any knowledgeable person is offended by the term Norwooder. They intuitively understand that hesitant to use the term Birther, fearing that it’s been copyrighted LOL
PoliticOracle clarify please
November 27th, 2009
7:20 pm
That should have read they intuitively understand the hesitancy to use the term birther. Kind of takes the LOL out of it when you blow the line though!
PoliticOracle
November 27th, 2009
7:23 pm
When I say I’m no fan of Reed, I’m referring to his likability. I don’t vote based on who’s the nicest or who has kissed the most babies. Reed seems to be a tad on the arrogant side, but that doesn’t mean he’s not the best candidate. Listen, I don’t post on this thread to to stir up arguments. I only share the truth to the best of my knowledge and when I’m wroNg I retract.
PoliticOracle
November 27th, 2009
7:29 pm
You’re right, I shouldn’t have referred to Ms. Norwood as Miss Daisy. Its an unfair stereotype and I let the SNL fan come out of me.
Please accept my humble apoplogies.
Screw Up Birther, Deather,
November 27th, 2009
7:32 pm
it appears that Dominique thinks he is in China and watching a Ping Pong match between the Chinese and North Korea for the world championship..
Driving Miss Daisy
November 27th, 2009
7:32 pm
Still PoliticOracle, lets not distract from the overall greater point that the posts on here are truly lamentable, and in fact are downright ugly.
Driving Miss Daisy
November 27th, 2009
7:33 pm
Make that some posts on here.
Andie
November 27th, 2009
7:36 pm
Some of you keep posting about all this experience Mr. Reed has over Mrs. Norwood in politics…”Get over yourselves” This man has made a good living for himself and has possibly never mingled with the “regular” citizens of Atlanta. And sometimes the saying goes “He who knows everything; knows not a damn thing where it really truly matters” So go figure! and stop putting this man on a pedestal and lording this guy over yourselves…make you look like one of his goons; “Know what I mean” Tell your guy to clean the city of this rash of crime!!! Can’t walk outside your door or be heading home without being shot or raped or robbed or carjacked!!! This guy wants the title of mayor; but will start dodging you after he’s in!!! “Then What “REEDERS” hang your heads low when this happens, because its coming and I will be watching and reminding you guys who put him in and he becomes the untouchable to you! Think very serious with your heart and not just your minds when you point your finger to select the person that will represent you and your family members who lives all over Atlanta. Time is getting critical, issues are seriously critical when it comes to the economy and your safety and the expected tax hikes coming soon; in which i don’t mind if results are happening because of the hike. But don’t ask me for more money and pee on me and say you did’nt do it or you had nothing to do with it and it was you who pleaded your case to the citizens for more money and then act as if you don’t remember what your job is and start lording yourself over the very people who put you there!!! “Don’t forget this Mr. Reed and Mrs. Norwood; because the people trusted that you would best represent all of us in Atlanta.
“My vision is change for a better leadership and a change to unite everyone in Atlanta as brothers and sisters no matter the skin color; for common goals of working together to make things happen for the better in our everyday lives. “Vote For a Change” An 18-year old ran for mayor in another state a few years back; he had no experience; but he had a vision for his town and he won the race!
One can have all the elaborate experience in the world on paper and sometimes his friends may brag on him to make him look good on camera; but that same person can also be one with his head in the sand and knows nothing about reality; about real gut clinching life on an everyday norm’ Think clearly before touching that screen when you vote in December.
Nique's not screwed up, he's a businessman
November 27th, 2009
7:36 pm
I took his endorsement to be much less about Kasim Reed, than Nique angling for a Waffle House endorsement. I think he saw the Shaq and Ben Stein Comcast ad campaign and thought he could mimic its success with a Waffle House campaign starring him and Zig Zag Zell.
Cutty
November 27th, 2009
7:38 pm
What has Norwood done in 8 years to make her the ‘change’ candidate? Simple question Norwood supporters.
The best analysis yet
November 27th, 2009
7:39 pm
The best analysis of this campaign yet, no offense to politicoracle, can be found in the StreetTalk column of Creative Loafing, on page 11 this week, where a guy named Danny says he doesn’t know much about Reed, but something don’t flow right with him.
Sometimes, you have to put all the rhetoric aside on both sides, and go with your gut instinct.
wow
November 27th, 2009
7:46 pm
Here is what I ant to say to Mary supporters and Reed nay-sayers alike:
“When hearing something unusual, do not pre-emptively reject it, for that would be folly. Indeed, horrible things may be true , and familiar and praised things may prove to be lies. Truth is truth unto itself, not because people say it is.” Ibn al Nafis (13th cent Physician) Quoted at the opening of the international conference on Darwin in Cairo Egypyt!
Norwood sounds great when she visits you in your neighborhood, but she had 8 years to make this city better and she slept on the job! Reed may not be the most “likable” seeming guy, but he is smart and capable and makes things happen. Look at the records. The truth is there.
Bottom Line
November 27th, 2009
7:51 pm
Reed was picked by the political machine, Norwood was NOT picked by the political machine. Who is going to work for the Machine and who is going to work for the voters? My vote and hopes go to Norwood.
wow
November 27th, 2009
8:07 pm
Well, we know Mary isn’t going to work at all…
Angry Taxpayer
November 27th, 2009
8:14 pm
Politics as Usual! Some body put the strong arm on him and told him he would not make as much money because the “black” community would no longer by his products (that is the really disgusting part and probably would not be the case). This was a money decision probably made by his manager/agent. I dont believe it has any impact either way but it shows me that money is the key for Mr. Dominique.
wow
November 27th, 2009
8:16 pm
WoW… Where do you get these ideas? Still, not the truth no matter how many times or how loud you say them!
Deborah
November 27th, 2009
8:17 pm
Reed campaigners should fear and hate us, not Norwood, because it’s the majority of voters who are in a conspiracy to unsaddle you. You could “vaporize” every last person endorsing Norwood publicly, but we will liberate this city of ours from your grasp when we enter the voting booth.
IdaHere
November 27th, 2009
8:18 pm
When one is telling the truth, great minds often run in the same vein! I am glad you mentioned Stephanie Ramage’s article. I looked it up and am glad that she recognizes “Why Kisim
Reed Should be Atlanta’s Next Mayor”.
From the looks of her picture, I could be her grandmother! I am going to make it a point to meet her, since she speaks the truth that I know about Kasim Reed after knowing him for 32 of his 40 years! During his years in office, our neighborhood group were his most ardent critics. We stayed on his case and he came through with flying colors. I am proud now to say Thank You, Kasim, and may God continue to smile on you!.
I have watched him grow over the years and am proud that he grew up to be my re
IdaHere
November 27th, 2009
8:22 pm
Spelling Corrections: “Why Kasim Reed Should Be Atlanta’s Next Mayor.”
I have watched him grow over the years and am proud that he grew up to be my representative.
IdaHere you're embarrassing yourself
November 27th, 2009
8:28 pm
IdaHere, do you really think people are that stupid? Stupid enough to believe that you just looked up an article that you obviously already looked up so you could parrot, word for word, a Ramage talking point?
Stop it. You’re embarrassing yourself like a sloppy drunk fawning over someone at a holiday party.
O'Bottom
November 27th, 2009
8:31 pm
I’m glad Dominique cleared that up. I always wait to see who Dominique Wilkins endorses before I vote in any election. Blacks just crack me up. God’s never ending joke upon the rest of us.
IdaHere
November 27th, 2009
9:38 pm
Kasim Reed is the best candidate for Mayor of the city of Atlanta, no matter how you slice it! It is all about who will make the best Mayor, Look up the records for yourself and go from there! Kasim Reed has delivered, and will deliver in the future as our next Mayor!
Give credit where credit is due. He is a young man on the move and I look forward to watching this brilliant young man continue to progress as he has in the past!
His “Centers of Hope” will keep hope alive for our youth who need a strong role model such as Kasim Reed.
Kasim is smart enough to recognize that Atlanta has to deal with the gangs that are recruiting and training our youth to be “big time” gangsters. He recognized the problem Atlanta is having with Child Prostitution and introduced legislation to deal with it. Oh,almost forgot, thanks for helping to pass the bill doubling our homestead exemption.
We Shall Overcome, Yes We Can, Keep Hope Alive, Together We Can Make Atlanta a Better Place for all Atlantans. Truth Crushed to Earth Will Rise Again, There is Nothing to Fear; but Fear Itself,
If You Can Keep Your Head When All Around You Are Losing Theirs and Blaming it On You, If You Can Trust Yourself When All Men Doubt You and Make Allowances for Their Doubting Too, Then You will be (are) the Man we need for Atlanta for such a time as this.
We look forward to your Inauguration which we will crash if we are not on the coveted list! Keep on keeping on, the race is not to the swift; but to those who endure to the end!
Sophie
November 27th, 2009
9:55 pm
Why was my last comment not added?
Sophie
November 27th, 2009
10:24 pm
why was my last comment not added to this blog? I sent it but it didn’t show up?
Sophie
November 27th, 2009
10:29 pm
Wake up Sucker Falls, Georgia! Reed is desperate and needs all these folks who want photo opps and free press to hold him up. He is weak, more of the same political pay backs, corruption and waste with tax dollars, and will tell you anything to get a vote. He just moved into the city limits in time to qualify for this race. this guy wants to go to Washington……….Norwood wants to be Mayor. She knows every inch of this city and knows all the neighborhoods and their problems.
Reed’s kabal is afraid of that 5′ dynamo cause she is going to fire every last one of them come January 1. She is going to expose through indepth audits all the waste and corruption that has been going on down at 55 Trinity. Mary Norwood is holding her own in the polls. Her support is going back to the polls, Reed’s won’t. Wake Up Sucker Falls……….VOTE NORWOOD for Mayor Tuesday!!!!!
Deborah
November 27th, 2009
10:34 pm
Reed will overcome alright, waving from his convertible yellow jaguar.
Oh, and how much experience does he have with city government, besides having the support of those in power for the last 40 years?
atlantasfuture
November 27th, 2009
10:47 pm
Where is the guy who stole the signs? Why on earth would he be running over to REED’s CAMPAIGN OFFICE FOR MONEY IF HE WORKED FOR THE OPPOSITION?
REED’s TEAM THREATENED HIM IF HE TOLD THE TRUTH.
Can we put up a reward to find him? All we need is that guy and we will know who is a lying scumbag and who isn’t.
Atlanta Voter
November 27th, 2009
10:47 pm
I’m for Mary on Nov. 27 said,
“I talk to a lot of people and many are pulling for Mary, there are many people who are not admitting publicly that they’re for her, all of these people are black. It’s funny how us blacks are almost ashamed to support change when it’s a white person running against a black person, but many whites proudly voted for and helped elect Obama.”
I agree that a number of blacks are for Mary Norwood but afraid to say so publicly. It’s a sad comment on our system when people can’t openly express their own views.
atlantasfuture
November 27th, 2009
10:49 pm
@IdaHere
REED passed a bill doubling our homestead exemption. HE ALSO WILL RAISE OUR TAXES. THEY WENT UP 42% THISYEAR IF YOU HAVEN”T NOTICED.
OR DO YOU NOT PAY YOUR PROPERTY TAXES LIKE KASIM REED?
wow
November 27th, 2009
10:53 pm
Look it up. Mary Norwood hired him.
http://www.11alive.com/rss/rss_story.aspx?storyid=138091
No matter how you slice it, she condones his actions. It sure seems likely that she knows Ralph Long is dirty and doesn’t want it coming out. Either way, she is now hiring criminals!
wow
November 27th, 2009
10:57 pm
@atlantasfuture – you do realize that the city council that Mary was on increased the taxes, right?
Wow that was weak wow
November 27th, 2009
11:26 pm
I hope for Reed’s sake wow, the Reed campaign isn’t paying you. And I hope for all of Atlanta’s sake you wouldn’t be the type of operative Reed would ever hire.
You post a link to a news story that shows conclusively to anyone with half a brain that the Reed campaign paid someone to steal signs? And you somehow think this will reflect poorly on Norwood.
Any parent will see how Kasim is acting through this. He’s acting like a three year old who got caught with his hands in the cookie jar, and lacking the rational judgment of an aware adult, just keeps sticking to his lie, sticking to his lie, sticking to his lie, sticking to his lie in the hopes that if he just keeps sticking to it, the cookies crumbs will magically disappear from his shirt.
It’s painfully embarrassing to watch a grown man act this way, and even more embarrassing to watch his sycophants enable him.
PoliticOracle
November 27th, 2009
11:27 pm
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PoliticOracle
November 27th, 2009
11:33 pm
@wow
Even though I’m a Kasim supporter, but I must correct you on the point about Mary Norwood’s tax increase vote. Norwood went on record against it but my problem is, she voted against it without offering any alternatives. She claims herself to be a public safety warrior.
Wow that was weak wow
November 27th, 2009
11:38 pm
I knew politicoracle had more savvy than to comment on Reed’s continued denials.
Now it’s no longer about cheap signs, it’s about what appears to be a significant character flaw, as anybody who’s a parent can see that Reed’s acting like a three year old with his hand caught in the cookie jar, sticking to his lie, sticking to his lie, sticking to his lie, sticking to his lie.
No matter how much more accomplished even his staunchest backers claim Reed is compared to Norwood, this behavior has to make them very concerned.
wow
November 27th, 2009
11:54 pm
Convenient that you all ignore the fact that Mary Norwood hired the sign stealer!! And I never said Norwood voted for the tax increase; rather the city council she was on voted it in – nothing to do with Kasim at all.
Wow is in denial
November 27th, 2009
11:59 pm
Wow reminds you of one of those people who are so emotionally invested in a cult of personality, that they come out even stronger in support of the cult like figure when he’s been caught red handed.
Anybody who is a parent can readily see what Reed is doing here; acting like a three year old caught with his hand in the cookie jar, sticking to his lie, sticking to his lie, sticking to his lie, hoping the cookie crumbs will go away.
It’s probably why a well reasoned supporter like politicoracle hasn’t weighed in on this one. It’s not about a cheap sign anymore; it’s about what appears to be a very serious character flaw.
PoliticOracle
November 28th, 2009
12:19 am
@wow
I’m lost at your claim about Norwood hiring the sign guy. Where was that reported.
@wow that was weak wow
What are you talking about “Reed’s continued denials”? If Reed’s camp is responsible for the sign taking which, again is illegal and a very common practice, I’m sure the candidate isn’t condoning this behavior. Serious campaigns don’t have time to bother with the minutia of field strategy. Norwood’s field people also take signs. The signs are in the public right-of-way illegally and anyone that is still talking about this story is just distracting from the real issues of the day.
PoliticOracle
November 28th, 2009
12:21 am
I meant taking the signs are legal.
PoliticOracle
November 28th, 2009
12:35 am
If this sign taking is a reflection of Reed’s character, then what does is say about Norwood being supported by Able Mable Thomas and Glenn Thomas? They both are looking for money. Mable actually was paid $1500 for gas and Glenn Thomas propisitioned Borders for $25k in exchange for his support, which leads me to believe he did the same to Norwood and I believe she obliged.
Also, what does it say that Norwood continues to distort facts for political gain. What about the 150,000 “broken” meter tops and the Enron-like accounting. This is classic political-distortion at its best, but she was very easily debunked.
Norwood has gone down in flames and Reed was the last person she wanted to be in a run-off with and I hope you can all see why. Reed has run circles around Norwood in this run-off. He has consistently garnered the support of the political leadership, while upping his name i.d. and introducing him on the grassroots level. Honestly his team has shined throughout this politcal season and he deserves credit for being a good candidate and letting them lead. All this comes from his experience running the big races in this town. Experience matters on all levels folks.
Nowood’s got a bunch of political amatuers and it is showing. There were several areas where I would’ve stayed on the attack. This jumping from debunked issue to debunked issue has killed her, but it reflects her style – no focus.
I wish all the candidates well and my earlier pledge remains the same – whoever wins will have my support because I want our city to prosper.
Wow is in denial
November 28th, 2009
12:37 am
PoliticOracle, the continued denials are in reference to the 11 Alive update wow was nice enough to provide a link for. 11 Alive reports that Reed is still insisting the latest update that Ralph Long paid the sign stealer.
By now it’s not about the signs. By now it’s a character flaw and I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to find out, as you put it, that Reed was indeed involved in the minutia of campaign strategy, seeing that he is, like a three year old caught with his hand in the cookie jar, sticking to his lie, sticking to his lie, sticking to his lie, instead of having his staffers get to the bottom of it and condemn those individuals accordingly.
The sycophants will always defend Reed. Those with well thought out reasons for support my find themselves asking some questions in the next few days as this story develops.
Wow is in denial
November 28th, 2009
12:45 am
politicleoracle it’s not that the sign stealing is a reflection of Reed, as unfortunately these things happen. It’s that the continued denial of it, once caught is a scary sign of a Reed character flaw.
Say what you want about the Thomas and Thomas endorsements, Norwood hasn’t lied about accepting their help. It might be a case of political expediency, but it’s not a sign of a major character flaw.
The water meter ad is a sign of what you have pointed out is some concern about the Norwood camp’s competence. They are completely right about the water meters being a fiasco, but they turned what should have been a homerun into a bunt single by getting their facts and figures screwed up. Amateur hour, as you would call it.
I would say it comes down to one thing for many voters. Do you trust over time Norwood will become more competent, or do you trust over time Reed will become more ethical?
Worst case scenarios for Reed and Norwood
November 28th, 2009
12:57 am
If you believe all the hype about Norwood’s competence and Kasim’s personal ethics, it still comes down to one thing.
People who have issues with competence can always hire competent people to support them.
People who have issues with ethics aren’t likely to hire ethical people to support them.
PoliticOracle
November 28th, 2009
2:04 am
@wow is in denial
I’ve never seen 11 Alive assert that Reed is responsible for the sign fiasco. I’m pretty sure they’re referring to Mitzi Bickers as being questionable. Besides, Long’s story is just as fishy. All the damning evidence he supposedly has is non-existent. I saw no one beating on his car, threatening him or being paid. All of this sign business is a dumb waste of time and only Norwood stands to lose from it. Because while Reed is looking more and more mayoral by the day, she is steadily losing ground in the free and earned media race.
@Worst case scenario
You sound really ignorant in your post. Are you suggesting we risk electing an incompotent candidate based on innuendo and rumor? If so, you may want to do better. That really makes your candidate look bad. Time and again Norwood falsities have been ripped to shreds by the media and she stands there looking dumb and making no net gains in support.
I’m telling you, Norwood’s campaign was totally run wrong by her team. They shouldve closed the deal in Nov. because Reed was the last person she wanted to be in a run-off with. With all the momentum she had, the right campaign team wouldve sealed the deal for her.
Kasim Reed will win on Tuesday. By the way, I haven’t heard from Jackalope in a while.
insider
November 28th, 2009
2:57 am
PoliticOracle why don’t you become mayor since you know so much more than everybody else that post on here. I don’t want Kasim Reed to be our mayor I want you to be. Kasim Reed is ugly. I’m sick of ugly mayors. Kasim Reed supports thugs and crime. There is no way Kasim Reed is gonna turn this city around. He is a thug in a suite just like the rest of the machine. PoliticOracle needs to be mayor, hes the smartest person in the world. We really just need Hurricane Katrina to hit Atlanta then sheltered people like PoliticOracle can see the true colors of the crap hole theyve turned the city into.
Worst case scenarios for Reed and Norwood
November 28th, 2009
3:45 am
In a worse case scenario politicOracle, yes I am suggesting that. When it comes to tigers, they generally don’t change their strips.
Kasim’s continued denials, which fly in the face of all logic, that his campaign had nothing to do with the sign stealing, signify a major character flaw, something no amount of alleged competence can cover.
I’m not sure how pointing out how Kasim’s denials might very well point to a major psychological dysfunction is ignorant. I’d say it’s far more ignorant that people ignore the warning signs, because people are enamored with the glitz of celebrity endorsements and desperately want to live vicariously through them.
So yes, in a worse case scenario, I think you are better off investing with Mrs. Average broker, even if she hasn’t totally distinguished herself among her peers, than you are investing with Bernie Madoff, no matter how many celebrity endorsements he had in the business community.
Character counts, and ignoring that could cost Atlanta big time.
Montrell M
November 28th, 2009
4:13 am
Kasim now has the endorsement of all prominent African-Americans in the city. He is the best candidate for the interests of the African-American population in Atlanta and all people of color must unite and vote for Kasim for mayor!!!
Sophie
November 28th, 2009
7:29 am
And look where voting skin color has gotten you all these years? Rat infested neighborhoods, crime riddled streets unsafe to live on, increased drug dealers and gangs taking over your children, lost jobs, no meaningful development on the southside and higher taxes and higher cost of services if you can get them. Wake up Sucker Falls citizens !!!! YOU ARE BEING TAKEN TO THE CLEANERS ONCE AGAIN IF YOU VOTE FOR REED!!! It is all about him and his little band of greedy men and women (white and black) who want more of your hard earned money. The best endorsement Norwood got was when Shirley said “she lacks integrity, ethics and competence” to do the job. By golly Mary’s support and volunteer list doubled that day.
Norwood didn’t pay anyone to steal signs for God’s sake. Mitzi Bickers, Reed’s right hand woman did. Long has been threatened cause he is a black legislator and is supporting a white female 5′ dynamo for Mayor. He took that video to prove what all have known about this campaign. Reed has hoddie thugs working for him. $60 a day plus lunch. Cause Long is the smart one. He knows that black citizens, along with all the white, have been ignored and used for the past two decades by black leadership. It has been a snatch and grab free for all down at 55 Trinity. Black intimidating black voters …. what a change. I know that a large % of black voters are voting for Mary even with
the threats from the Reed thugs. Norwood will win Tuesday as the more that comes out about Reed, the more you see his lawyer slick ways on TV, the more you see and evaluate who is behind him with endorsements (Roy, Shirley, Kathy, Nan, et al), the more you know he isn’t the right person to lead us out of financial ruin. WAKE UP SUCKER FALLS, GEORGIA!!!!
As for those water meter covers, it started out as 150,000 and they are down to 5,000? I don’t care if it was 500 not fitting. All of them should have fit on the first go round. You and I paid for the rework of that program, twice !! Where is your 15% drought surcharge roll back? Still paying huh? It is theft while you roll over and slam the one person who is trying to correct the corruption and stealing of your money …… Mary Norwood.
As for Mary on council, I know she was outnumbered on most issues. She is only one voice. You can’t get anything done on that council if you aren’t up shirley’s skirt. Don’t you understand how it works down there? 8 votes, 8 votes, 8 votes. Council Prez appoints all the committees and chairs. Of course Mary was never appointed a chair. She asks questions, she wants documentation!! It is the position of Mayor that runs this city, not the impotent council. In 8 years Mary found out how bad it really was and is now stepping up and out to make real change happen. WAKE UP SUCKER FALLS citizens!!
We should all be so lucky to have a new Mayor like Mary Norwood. If she runs the city half as well as she has run this fiscal responsible campaign, our city will be all the better. VOTE MARY NORWOOD DEC.1. GIVE ATLANTA A CHANCE. CHANGE OUR NAME BACK FROM SUCKER FALLS TO ATLANTA ONCE AGAIN!!!! VOTE MARY NORWOOD …. ETHICS, INTEGRITY, HONESTY, AND COMPETENCE……….WHAT A GLORIOUS DAY IT WILL BE DEC. 2 !!! There will be lots of high paid folks at 55 Trinity getting their resumes updated and looking for jobs elsewhere. Don’t let the door revolve too fast…and don’t bother to interview for your position again. Mary Norwood is cleaning house.
6th District
November 28th, 2009
7:45 am
Stephine Ramage is so caught up in Reed’s cult of personality, that she spends more time writing on Galloway’s blog than her own, and much more time defending Reed’s character flowas than reporting for the Sunday Paper. Pitiful.
Raygunius Delmacio
November 28th, 2009
8:04 am
Montrell M
4:13 am
Man you are up late but you know what you are talking about.
harry the dog hunter
November 28th, 2009
8:11 am
You who is for Mr Reed Are RACISTS
Wow!
November 28th, 2009
8:57 am
I was driving over by Lenox Mall yesterday and there was a black guy running away from Filene’s Basement with an arm of clothes on a hanger and box of shoes. What would you think if you saw this? I read the AJC and article after article talks about crime after crime. The perpetrator? Often a black man. What is wrong with this city? Why can’t black men behave decently? Why can’t anyone seem to set role models for these thugs to become men and functioning members of society? Do we owe them a free lunch? No!
Nor do I owe anything to Kasim Reed. As a lawmaker, I expect him and his record to be beyond reproach. It is not. He has been delinquent in many of his taxes. This is his responsibility, but he chose not to accept it…just as these black men above engaged in a much more “visible” crime and chose to to accept responsibility for themselves.
I moved to this city completely open minded. I leave this city feeling like the racial stereotype is being ingrained in my head in every possible imaginable way. There is a big problem. It IS about race. It is clear by published memos, flip-flopping of political machines, that the ONLY motivator in this political race is RACE. Quite frankly, it’s sickening and every single person who is going to vote Dec 1 and considering voting for this candidate based on color is a racist.
In this deluge of comments on this article, there has been mention of Detroit. Although we have industry that hasn’t been equally and adversely affected as they, our crime is right up there, and the thug-mentality is there. It’s sad to see where this city is heading. Clayton County could be blown from the map and our crime statistics would be cut in half…one county. Clayton County constituents who have voted for their own…and look where it got them…a loss of accreditation…WAKE UP ATLANTA, before we become Detroit…before we become the “Clayton County” city…or perhaps it’s too late. After reading these posts, it would suggest that it IS too late.
#1 Foxy Lady
November 28th, 2009
9:36 am
Yea, but who do Karl Malone be support’n?
Lloyd Braun
November 28th, 2009
9:39 am
Mmmm yes, the endorsement of an old basketball star – very important. I wonder who the rest of the Hawks are voting for?
Rich professional athletes! If ever there was a good example for voting patterns, it is rich basketball stars.
drsoul
November 28th, 2009
9:49 am
The real question is: “do you want to look in the mirror each morning and be proud that you held Atlanta back and put it into the hands of another ‘hostage holder’, who will not progress, but regress the city, as has been the case for 20 years”..???? or do you want to look in that mirror every morning and be proud that you cast a vote for a better Atlanta, for someone who cares about the real community and it’s people, black or white or any other ethnicity, and not just about their own personal stepping stone, one who will clean out the sewage in City Hall and get the finances into the right buckets and spending and give credibility back to the city and it’s citizens”…. you have a real choice of being a ‘killer with REED’ or a ‘liberator of the City with Norwood’…. it is a choice about conscience and character…if these two items are meaningful to you and the image you present to your children, vote NORWOOD… for more of the same and to teach your kids all of the wrong lessons, then sink with REED… those are the real choices…!!!!
I can't take it
November 28th, 2009
9:53 am
If Atlanta voters want more of the same vote for Norwood. Norwood campaign staffers and consultants are knee deep with Bill Campbells adminstration. Zee Bradord and Michael Langford are lead strategists, communiications and consultants for Norwood. My goodness google their names and you will find a great deal about them and their High level positions with Campbell adminstration. If norwood wins, you might as well say Campbell wins. You Norwood folks have been hoodwinked by Norwood. She makes u think she represents change all the while laughing with Campbell’s cronies. Norwood=CAMPBELL.
@politicOracle
November 28th, 2009
9:59 am
Regarding Mary hiring the sign stealer, read the article Wow referred to here:
http://www.11alive.com/rss/rss_story.aspx?storyid=138091
This is the excerpt:
Toward the end of the video Norwood did offer Williams a job with her campaign as a field operative, but she still refused to pay him for any information.
“We are hiring people, but I’m not hiring you because of anything that you are sharing with me, I don’t do that,” Norwood said.
Ken
November 28th, 2009
10:00 am
Both of these “canidates” are not going to change anything happening in the city of Atlanta. They both are more of the same for the city. It’s a shame this election didn’t have candiates would had a clear vision for Atlanta.
This “election” has never been about the best canidate, it’s been about race. One side wants Reed, another Norwood. People get pressured into supporting Reed, because of his ties with Jackson….ie. Wilkins and several other black leaders in Atlanta. The whole Clark Atlanta professor thing calling for all the black people to vote for read, so “a white person doesn’t get elected” makes me think how far we haven’t gone since the ’60s.
I often wonder what Dr. King would say about today’s Atlanta. I think he would be ashamed. His dream hasn’t been realized, and it’s the political leaders being elected in Atlanta who’s been holding it back.
The fact Reed was picked by “the Jackson machine”, as some of you put it, does not comfort me. The truth is Jackson wasn’t a great mayor. The truth is people put him in that bracket, because of his race and not his works. Just how Obama was elected. I’m sure Mr. Reed is a fine man, but I’m not impressed with his record, and frankly, he just seems to be the trendy vote for black people in the city.
Norwood is another evil. Don’t tust her; she cannot speak her goals clearly; reminds me of Pelosi “lite; and is just not ready for this stage.
Atlanta needs a person to bridge of the people of Atlanta together, but unfortunately it’s citizens are not interested in real progress just racial enpowerment.
Jackalope
November 28th, 2009
10:05 am
@PoliticalOracle: Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahhhhaaaaaahahahahahahahah!
Norwood down in flames huh? hahahahahhhHAHAHAHAHhahahHAHAHAHa.
Good one.
You did a pretty good job pretending to just be a VERY interested tax payer during the General, but now it’s pretty clear that you’re a paid staffer. Reed’s brother maybe? Reed himself? That would explain the delusions of grandeur.
YOU GONNA OWE ME DINNER.
David
November 28th, 2009
10:19 am
The last statement that Atlanta is a Black town and needs a black mayor is about the most ignorant statement that I have ever read in my life next only to Jesse Jackson’s ” if you are Black you must you must be for the health care bill statement. Some people need to use their brain before they speak;it would save them from sounding stupid.
You better "Think"
November 28th, 2009
10:37 am
For everyone on this post, you better THINK what you doing and saying, for those who do not “live” in the City, no you can’t vote, but guess what, I would be trying to convience like hell all of my friends, relatives and anybody else to vote for Mary Norwood. Look folks we have had 30 years of black folks and look what kind of mess the City is in. Where are all of the Rev.’s and everybody backing Kasim and where are they when all of the City employees that “they” (Shirley) laid off to give turkeys and dressing to?
Ya’ll (You all) especially those who work in City Hall better be realizing who you are trying to get in City Hall. Go down and ask how they laid people off. Persons with years of service loosing money and their time because they got hauled off into either Old City Council chambers or the Civic Center to give folks their walking papers. And guess what? They were all BLACK Folks!!!!!
What you trying to do, vote Kasim in to finish off Shirley’s work?
Who’s gonna be left to do any work at City Hall? Folks down there already fed up and mad!!!
Fix my water bill Kasim and fix it now! Talk about the issues home and stop all the mud slinging!!!!!
You better "Think"
November 28th, 2009
10:44 am
I can’t take it Kasim=Shirley, Andrew, Maynard, Bill and the list goes on and on and on……
Til you walk a mile in my shoes, go and talk to the folks at City Hall who work in that place every day. Then, come back and post.
Mary Norwood helped more folks than Kasim would ever and this was long before this election.
Would rather have someone who at the very least listened than someone who was not there AT ALL.
You better "Think"
November 28th, 2009
10:46 am
For all of ya’ll posting, look at your water bill….is it correct? A miracle if it is.
drsoul
November 28th, 2009
10:46 am
“I can’t take it”….if Norwood was tied to Campbell, the MACHINE would have endorsed her… the whole entire group of Jackson, Campbell, Franklin is one entity, make no mistake…they are about RACE only, they do not and have never cared about the voter or the city, only what they personally and their family and close friends could accumulate… NORWOOD will end all of that over time and return the finances and money to the voters in REAL services, not her pockets like REED… the MACHINE does not want a ‘clean up’ in Atlanta..they would have to go out and get real jobs…!!! they love living off you..!!! Why would you not want a clean city and better services????
You better "Think"
November 28th, 2009
10:58 am
drsoul…that’s why I voted for Mary Norwood…………………………
And for all of you black folks who vill vote or have voted for Mary Norwood…
MAKE THAT CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Courtney
November 28th, 2009
11:23 am
Kasim Reed: The candidate of the black establishment. Screw the poor people. We can get rich and not care if we are black.
Backing a Twinkie just because you like 'em
November 28th, 2009
11:24 am
You don’t buy Krispy Kreme stock for your financial portfolio and future financial security because you like the way they taste.
Like Kasim, Krispy Kreme has floundered for decades and teeters on bankruptcy because they don’t know how to run a business successfully.
I personally like Dominique a lot, but I wouldn’t vote for ‘Nique or hire him to advance our business. That is not his strength. The same reason that Dominique should think a lot deeper before he wastes his vote on a “buddy”.
The same philosophy goes for all the nucklheads that say stupid things like “Atlanta is a black city, so you must vote for a black mayoral candidate”.
The epitome of ignorance is to cast your vote based on the color of a candidate’s skin.
Atlanta is on the verge of bankruptcy because voters have persisted in voting in corrupt mayors who know how to “TAKE CARE” of THEMSELVES, but not the business of running a large city.
Mary Norwood has a clean, strong record of advancing the citizens of Atlanta.
Kasim Reed has a far less stellar background..
Vote Smart. Don’t vote for a “Twinkie” just because you like chocolate!.
ATLborn
November 28th, 2009
12:06 pm
I see a lot of race baiting on both sides of the fence with Reed and Norwood supporters. I want Reed to win but if Norwood wins she’ll have my full support and I think she’ll do alright as mayor.
Of the last four mayors, of course all of whom were black, Maynard and Andy were the best and are arguably the best 2 mayors this city has ever had. Who can argue against the development that they brought to the city that has made it an international business center. Maynard and Andy did that, not Massell, not even Bill Hartsfield.
Folks that claim it’s not about race from a white perspective really need to check themselves with the “thug” comments directed towards all of the past 4 mayors of this city. That term really can apply only to Bill Campbell (who was a horrible mayor). Given sweetheart deals to themselves and cronies often comes with the territory with politics, not saying its right but it’s a fact. Black pols don’t have a monopoly on this behavior. Check out our state politics…anyone remember Sonny’s sweetheart land deal worth millions that he paid a almost nothing for? Even when that topic was being hotly debated, Sonny never once was referenced as a thug.
And for the black folks on here claiming their ashamed that the black community hasn’t gotten past looking at the race of a candidate, I ask what race have you been watching? It’s true the majority of blacks in this city are lock step in behind Reed, but Norwood pulled in over 25% of the black vote, over 30% in some majority black districts. Norwood is fairing much better amongst black voters than Reed is amongst white voters. Are you black folks spewing venom towards other blacks for voting Reed doing the same towards whites that are overwhelmingly voting Norwood? I think not.
Rick
November 28th, 2009
12:16 pm
Thats why I am voting for Reed because of these nasty comments Norwood put out on here and my understanding that Norwood staff is on here bashing Reed supporters. Norwood campaign is in shamble now she is turning alot of voters away from her an I am going to support Reed.
Rick
November 28th, 2009
12:26 pm
Norwood people are so racist this is disgrace to America, I read so many comments on here, Norwood people are calling Reed thug and ghetto.
I hope Reed win this election send Norwood on her way to the unemployment line. Norwood is using black people for votes.
Conservative White Male
November 28th, 2009
12:32 pm
They all stick together
Rick
November 28th, 2009
12:39 pm
Conservative White Male who are you referring to I am white man I dont like Reed and Norwood but I chose Reed over Norwood. I seen her in person and also I seen her on tv debate she remind me of Sarah Palin very slick. I will vote Reed over Norwood.
MC W
November 28th, 2009
1:12 pm
“Given sweetheart deals to themselves and cronies often comes with the territory with politics, not saying its right but it’s a fact.”
It seems to me as though you’re willing to settle for too little. I mean really. Compare most politicians to Sonny Perdue and they come out on top (I got my dad to switch to Mark Taylor in ‘06, back before I was of voting age); is that all you have?
Oh yeah, Sam Massell helped start MARTA. Little bitty contribution there. I’m well impressed by what Jackson’s team did with Midfield Terminal, but let’s not unfairly malign past white mayors just to prove a point.
Stephanie Ramage
November 28th, 2009
1:20 pm
@Idahere/Stephanie Ramage
Idahere is not me, but sure makes some excellent points, and yes, that phrase does sound familiar, but since it’s from my endorsement of Reed and is posted on his Web site there is the distinct possibility that it simply rang true with someone and he or she remembered it. If that’s the case, Idahere, thank you for reading it.
While I’m here, I’d like to point out a couple of great ideas that Kasim Reed has:
1–Posting the budget in exactly the same way that the state Senate does during budget deliberations. Under the Gold Dome, when a legislator suggests funding for a project or program, he or she has to show on the budget board where that money would come from.
2–Installing a legislation-tracking search engine such as the General Assembly has. For journalists like me, and citizens, this is an invaluable tool. Reed’s legislative record is easily traced. Simply visit the General Assembly Web site, choose “legislation” under the “Senate” side and then use the legislator’s name as the search item.
I think Mary Norwood is basically a good person and if you feel she’s the right person for the job then by all means exercise your democratic right to vote, but I am curious as to why Norwood, who promotes herself as being in favor of transparency, has never in her eight years on council suggested such a search engine for City Council legislation. It would have helped not only reporters, but also voters who just want to know more about the candidates.
PoliticOracle
November 28th, 2009
1:43 pm
@Jackalope
You’re hilarious, now I’m Reed and his brother? Did you not read where I said last night that I would support Norwood if she’s elected. I’m not all in with any candidate, I’ve casted my vote for who I believe is the best candidate. It’s very unwise to get emotional in elections because it gives rise to pessimism which will get us nowhere.
I believe Reed’s team knows how to get this job done and he knows what it takes to lead.
Bottom Line
November 28th, 2009
1:59 pm
Reed’s team = Jackson Machine= Same old graft & corruption
Reed knows what it takes to lead.= different name same game plan as Shirley
I can't take it
November 28th, 2009
2:17 pm
@drsoul – you really want to debate truth. you are not working on a full tank. I gave you facts. Campbell top administrators are working on Norwood’s campaign. Zee Bradford is the spokesperson for Mary Norwood. She was the communications director for Bill Campbell. If you want to tie anyone to Bill Campbell–than it has to be Mary Norwood. She’s the one that has the most corrupt mayoral administration staffers working for her campaign. I can’t believe you want to continue spewing untruths and innuendo. Stop debating me and look it up for yourself. Unless, you are illiterate
Sammy
November 28th, 2009
2:25 pm
I can’t take it 2:17 pm
Are you saying the Jackson Machine is sabotaging the Norwood election?. I hadn’t looked at it that way but I think you are correct.
What Machine?
November 28th, 2009
2:34 pm
If there was a powerful political machine in Atlanta, how is it that a political outsider with no meaningful legislation in her entire 8 years on city council is faring so well against an experienced progressive candidate with a solid legislative record?
Huh? Facts?!
November 28th, 2009
2:36 pm
Zee Bradford is the spokesperson for Mary Norwood. She was the communications director for Bill Campbell.
Rick
November 28th, 2009
2:48 pm
Jim Galloway why have you put my comment posted on the blogg I see that someone is deleting people comment on here and Norwood supporters are calling Reed thug and ghetto have not been deleted.
drsoul makes mincemeat of I can't take it
November 28th, 2009
3:29 pm
As drsoul said, if Norwood was a part of the Jackson, Campbell, Franklin machine they would have endorsed Norwood, NOT Reed.
Game, set, match to drsoul
Sammy
November 28th, 2009
3:39 pm
What Machine? 2:34 pm
Sorry candidate, sorry machine.. they have kept the money in the family & friends not given any away to the little guy.
Worst case scenario
November 28th, 2009
3:43 pm
What if you were considering two candidates to hire, one with a so called tremendous record of accomplishment and one with a good record of accomplishment.
During the interview, the one with the tremendous record of accomplishment takes a pen off your desk. You ask him if he took the pen and he says no. You tell him it’s no big deal, they are courtesy pens for customers and he still says no. You show him a videotape of him in the room by himself, with the pen on the table and then five seconds later the pen is gone and he still denies taking it.
Even if he has the so called tremendous record, would you hire this guy? Substitute a pen for a campaign sign and you have Kasim Reed.
You want to say the sign is no big deal, fine. It’s some paper on a stick. Happy? But the denial IS a big deal. It points to a character flaw. Any parent can recognize this; it’s like the three year old is gets caught with his hands in the cookie jar and continues to lie, continues to lie, continues to lie, thinking if he sticks to the lie long enough he can just lie his way out of it.
Worst case scenario, I trust someone, who as an outsider, might not have been able to get as much done, to do the right things once they are given some power, than I trust someone who appears to have a major character flaw given even more power to abuse.
Lonny
November 28th, 2009
4:06 pm
Ha! Ha! What a laugh! Stumpy changes his mind! I call him “Stumpy” because he’s dumb as a stump – just go research how he handled his personal finances back in the 80’s when he was playing! He didn’t even know how many cars he owned and who had them – his Mama pretty much handled his business affairs, as I remember. So, Stumpy changed his mind! What a story! Thanks for the laugh.
IdaHere another Kasim Reed
November 28th, 2009
4:13 pm
If you can define a candidate by his supporters, IdaHere is the quintessential example.
Just like Reed, when IdaHere was caught in a lie, lifting word for word Stephanie Ramage’s words and claiming it as IdaHere’s own, IdaHere didn’t just change the subject, like anyone else caught in a lie might want to do. Nor did IdaHere own up to it, like you might hope one would do.
No, IdaHere stuck to the lie, stuck to the lie, stuck to the lie, stuck to the lie claiming to have never seen Stephanie Ramage’s words.
It’s a major character flaw, not unlike the stick to the lie, stick to the lie, stick to the lie Kasim has tried to pass off when his campaign was caught stealing signs.
Don’t be fooled with all this talk about accomplishment and endorsements. Of course an insider is going to get more endorsements from the inside than an outsider will.
It’s about character, and whether or not Atlanta can afford to take a chance, not only on an insider, but an insider who very well may have a major character flaw.
We’ve seen what happens when we give the job of mayor to someone with a major character flaw. No need to make the same mistake twice.
The endorsement that doesn't endorse
November 28th, 2009
4:31 pm
Not seeing any of the Reed camp is on here pushing the Dominique Wilkins’ endorsement.
Pretty much an admission that when Wilkins inadvertently tied Reed to Campbell that the whole thing blew up in their face.
@I can't take it
November 28th, 2009
4:36 pm
@I can’t take it… Since you’re so caught up in who’s on Norwood’s team, you should also know who is working for Reed. He has FAR MORE ties to the Campbell campaign, beginning with Kevin Ross– Campbell’s campaign manager and one of Reed’s top strategists. You should also know that Dan Halpern and Eugene Duffy– chief fundraisers for Campbell– are also running the Reed effort from top to bottom. The list of Campbell administration folks (those who aren’t in jail) working for Reed is deep and vast.
I can't take it gets taken to the cleaners again!
November 28th, 2009
4:43 pm
Wow I can’t take it, how much more embarrassment can you take?
Trying to tie Norwood to the machine might have been the lamest attempt by the Reed team yet. Mary Norwood as the machine candidate? Are you kidding? And people talk about the Norwood team being amateur night?
Give us the real scoop I can't take it!
November 28th, 2009
4:49 pm
I’m just waiting for the announcement from I can’t take it that Bill Campbell is hidden in a bunker somewhere in northside Atlanta, secretly running the entire Norwood campaign LOL
Big Scoop
November 28th, 2009
5:10 pm
I just heard that Bill Campbell was caught stealing Kasim Reed signs and giving them to Mary Norwood in exchange for a position in the Norwood administration. Bunny Jackson was driving the getaway car.
I can’t take it and IdaHere have the video.
Reed camp admits to being MACHINE candidate
November 28th, 2009
5:16 pm
State Rep. Rashad Taylor, Reed’s deputy campaign manager just admitting to the following in the AJC.
“They put Maynard [Jackson] in office and they’ll put Kasim in office,” said Taylor, who’s leading Reed’s get out the vote effort. “All of those neighborhoods will be the deciding factor.”
Reed is the MACHINE candidate. Out of their own mouths.
No surprise
November 28th, 2009
5:37 pm
Apparently “somebody” reminded Nique of his obligations as a black man.
Jeez, I am so glad I don’t live in Atlanta. I may need to find a way to avoid visiting.
oh boy
November 28th, 2009
6:50 pm
In a nutshell you can’t trust endorsements b/c they only mean “quid pro quo” S.Rampage needs to stop drinking the koolaide of Kasim R. I have met him, jesse spikes and mary. The longer this campagin goes on the more I am seeing reed 4 who he really is. he is an eltitest that will not serve the needs of the poor he does not have a clue in relating to people that are not monied or in his stratus FEAR of thugs and goons he is not clean at all he is only 4 those that have something that will benefit him he is arrogant, selfish and aloof totallly void of any emotion i don’t want some one like that in the mayors office he has no sense of balance in his personal life and yes he will do anything to get elected he is a strait up politician he doesnt care about anyone but himself and his lofty goals of higher public office i have looked the man straight in the eye…scary. what did his mama teach him? he probably wasn’t listening, anyway!!! Jesse…good guy but not enuff charisma, whatever. Mary is not a career politician she is just a women who wants to serve her city there is a lot at stake here she will blow the lid off the corruption in ATL and people are scared of that. I am a black women I love atl and my black folks but we gotta do better i no there have been white mayors that were crooked and corrupt and they have had their day in court now 4 black folks over 30 years of black leadership our day in court is the RUN-OFF God bless Mary and Kasim
Tyrone M
November 28th, 2009
7:23 pm
It’s good to see the African-American community coming together to endorse the best candidate, Kasim Reed! Atlanta is a black city and needs an African0American mayor to protect our interests! I’m tired of the white people in this city keeping the African-American population down!
DOTTIE
November 28th, 2009
8:12 pm
Hi Lisa, since you have decided to support Mr Reed,have you changed your mind about who you think was responsible for the burglary/breakin of your condo and your house…you have to be careful on your thoughts and implications…I got it taped………..
sarah
November 28th, 2009
9:34 pm
I will not be surprised at the results of the election…if the people put LAMAR WILLIS back in office,even after the information given on his wrong doings is all but an indictment,then they will vote for anybody and anything…it is a sad commemtator of PEOPLE in the south….let’s watch for LAMAR’S INDICTMENT…………..
Raquel Morris
November 28th, 2009
9:45 pm
@Dottie-
If you have the video, post it on youtube or somewhere. People need to know exactly what kind of person they get with Kasim and his violent goons.
IdaHere
November 28th, 2009
10:44 pm
It is interesting to note that when Norwood supporters cannot convince others that they are the truth-tellers and cannot convince others that their interpretation of events is the real deal, they go bonkers! Very much like their candidate, huh? SORRY FOLKS, CAN”T BE BOUGHT; NOR BOSSED; NOR FOOLED! WE HAVE COME TOO FAR FROM WHERE WE STARTED FROM!
I am proud to be a supporter of Kasim Reed whom I have known most of his life. Much better and much longer than those who are just grappling for straws because he has run a top-notch campaign, got the most endorsements and have an impeccable RECORD OF SUPPORTING ATLANTA DURING HIS 11 YEARS AS AN ELECTED STATE REPRESENTATIVE AND STATE SENATOR!
As a Mayor, the important factors to observe is the track record of the candidate? When you examine the record of achievements for the City of Atlanta, it is clear, very clear, that Reed has delivered and Mary Norwood has not. All of these other side issues are opinions and a lot of hogwash designed to distract from the real issues and thin record of Norwood. EXAMINE THE RECORDS!!!! WHO HAS DELIVERED? WHO WILL DELIVER?
I am proud that Kasim Reed is self-confident, brilliant, articulate, and an early achiever, recognized as a leader by his colleagues, Leadership Atlanta, Leadership Georgia, and his constituents who are well-pleased with his representation of them. All of this, and humble and approachable! Reed will make Atlanta proud in any arena!
Glad to be an eye-witness to Reed’s growth and progress over the years. Keep your head held high and stay focused on the needs of our great city, and your ability and readiness to deliver!
May God continue to shine upon Kasim Reed as he moves forward as the 59th Mayor of Atlanta!
anonymous
November 28th, 2009
10:46 pm
Both of these candidates do not care about you people! Your vote will never count anyways. The whole election is rigged by Corporate thugs! Atlanta is run by rich criminals who are looking for a new puppet to serve them!
IdaHere you've already been exposed
November 28th, 2009
10:50 pm
IdaHere you’ve already been busted on here once, lifting Stephanie Ramage’s words word for word and claiming them as your own.
Then not unlike your candidate Kasim Reed, you stick to your lie, stick to your lie, stick to your lie, and claim you never saw Ramage’s column before you posted.
First Mitzi Bickers. Then Kasim Reed. Now IdaHere. Does everybody in the Reed camp think they can just blatantly lie, and the voters aren’t going to see right through it.
IdaHere
November 29th, 2009
1:50 am
Hey folks read Stephanie Ramage’s article, “Why Kasim Reed Should Be The Next Mayor of Atlanta”, and her comments on this blog! Great going and good journalism! I wholeheartly agree with the following salient points she makes about our candidate of choice:
While I’m here, I’d like to point out a couple of great ideas that Kasim Reed has:
1–Posting the budget in exactly the same way that the state Senate does during budget deliberations. Under the Gold Dome, when a legislator suggests funding for a project or program, he or she has to show on the budget board where that money would come from.
2–Installing a legislation-tracking search engine such as the General Assembly has. For journalists like me, and citizens, this is an invaluable tool. Reed’s legislative record is easily traced. Simply visit the General Assembly Web site, choose “legislation” under the “Senate” side and then use the legislator’s name as the search item.
I think Mary Norwood is basically a good person and if you feel she’s the right person for the job then by all means exercise your democratic right to vote, but I am curious as to why Norwood, who promotes herself as being in favor of transparency, has never in her eight years on council suggested such a search engine for City Council legislation. It would have helped not only reporters, but also voters who just want to know more about the candidates.
All I can say Stephanie is “Speak the Truth.” What we need for a city “too busy to hate.” is results; not excuses! Delivering services on behalf of the people; not political gimmicks and political games.
People, search the Records for in them you will find which candidate has Atlanta’s best interest in mind! You will find which candidate delivered for Atlanta as an elected public servant. Which candidate has a plan to take Atlanta to the next level as a great international city!
Great minds discuss ideas and issues, records of accomplishments and projections. Small minds discuss trivia and distractions.
On December 1st change will come to Atlanta when Kasim Reed is elected the 59th Mayor of our great city!
IdaHere thank you for posting
November 29th, 2009
2:39 am
IdaHere thank you for posting and letting us know that one of Kasim Reed’s biggest fans is a documented liar
You lifted your words straight from a Ramage column, then just like Kasim Reed, you stuck to the lie, stuck to the lie, stuck to the lie, that the words were your own, until Ramage herself had to come on here and expose you.
Then, even after Stephanie Ramage exposed you for a documented liar, you keep coming on here and posting as if nothing happened.
It really doesn’t matter how showy your words are, if you’ve been exposed as a documented liar who pathologically sticks to the lie, even after being exposed.
Just like it doesn’t matter what a candidate’s record of accomplishment is, if it pales in comparison to a major character flaw. Bill Campbell had a record of accomplishment as well. You do remember who Bill Campbell is, or have you purged that from your memory like your documented lie?
Jamesbrennandoyle
November 29th, 2009
2:45 am
I live in Vine City…I would hardly call Vine City an “intown neighborhood.” Yes Vine City is close to downtown actually the closest neighborhood to downtown but there is nothing “in town” about it. Hip Intown neighborhoods get a much higher standard of city services the “other neighborhoods.” Atlanta is not just Midtown Downtown Buckhead, Morningside, Vahi, Grant Park, East Atlanta. There are at least 124 other neighborhoods. Mary Norwood actually understands that. I want a Mayor that is willing to come to me when I have a problem. Vine City could not have recovered as quickly as it did after tornado 2008 if it were not for the help of Mary Norwood. MARY NORWOOD FOR ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS OF ATLANTA!!
UGA FAN
November 29th, 2009
4:26 am
More PLAYiNG and less PRAYING
“Chief Pennington Where Are You?”
November 29th, 2009
4:37 am
4 more years.. Vote Reed..
Sophie
November 29th, 2009
4:59 am
Emotions are high in this race because the stakes are high..out hard earned dollars. Mary Norwood has no political aspirations to go to Washington. This Mayor position isn’t a dress rehersal for something ‘bigger” and better. Kasim is a showman, slick corporate lawyer. Look closely at his ‘track’ record on behalf of Atlanta. Interesting how he is now saying he wants city hall to be transparent, will post online for citizens to see, how convenient. Always look at what is done right before qualifying for running for office.
1)What he did was get legislation through which allowed TADS (tax allocation districts) to be in the center of Buckhead rather than for their intended purposes of underdeveloped and blighted areas. He allowed big development to benefit with tax abatements in productive areas and didn’t do a thing to help underserved and blighted areas.
2) Says he only supported tax increases when it was on a voter referendum. Wake up Atlanta …………… that has been Shirley’s and Reed’s MO. Move it to a referendum, confusing verbage like moving public school funds over to development with TADS, take the accountability off the back of the politicans to make the decision … the ones YOU ELECTED to make the deicsions … and then says that he only supported something the voters supported!!!! WAKE UP ATLANTA …… those referendums are scams cause the politicans know that voters don’t study ths issues. They are lambs being led to slaughter. He also tried to get the bar hour issue put on a voter referendum at the slippery slick 12th hour move by Kathy Ashe, Shirley, et al. They got found out by us dumb ass citizens and put a stop to it!!!! Would have let the politicans elected to make decisions off the hook and allowed the alcohol lobobyists to pack the ballot box in an off cycle election. Clever wasn’t it?
3) Parks Authority – he tried to get that one through too but was found out by the dumb ass citizens! Let a group of appointed insiders take over Piedmont Park, Freedom park, chastain Park as to the use, development and sale of public lands? The citizens would have NO CONTROL as the elected politicans would have washed their hands of the future of our citizen owned land. Piedmont Park would have a 30 story tower under construction by now if that had happened.
Heck NO. He is all about his following for Washington. Look at his campagin contributions folks……..go to Common Cause.com and take a look. Norwood has citizens of Atlanta contributing 5, 10, 20, 50 dollars from all parts of the city. That shows investment in her candidacy from the citizens, the voters. Reed has big buck sports stars, developers, outsiders, and not much from the citizens. ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY, ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY!!
Mary will win this thing on Tuesday because citizens, the police, the firefighters, city workers are all fed up with years of neglect. Mary will expose it all. People are ready to talk. People are ready to show where the bones are buried at 55 Trinity Avenue. Just you watch the exodus of folks who will resign in the next couple months on their own vs. being exposed for the waste and corruption. Just you wait.
Mary will build a great team to work with her, and not against her. No G2s to sabatoge her administration from moving things forward. It won’t happen overnight, but rest assured, it will happen!
The recent polls show Mary gaining momentum the more Reed attacks. His latest, that Mary is race baiting. How laughable and desperate!.. Mary’s latest ad is right on point. Her misson is unity, not a divided city. She has been an activist for 20+ years on unity. She is color blind to the ills of our city. From Buckhead to Bankhead, Mechanicsville to Ansley Park, she knows every neighborhood and their respective issues. She has worn out some shoe leather meeting all of us and listening over the years.
Where has Reed been? Outside the city in an area where he could get elected to state senate office. He tried to annex his own district into the city for tax revenue for Shirley AND for his residency requirement to run for this office. Both failed. So he had to move into the city just in time to qualify for the election. What does he know about each and every neighborhood. Just shows up for the election. He is AWOL to the citizens of Atlanta and will be AWOL if he should get elected Mayor. He’ll spend more time in Washington than he will meeting residents of Mechanisville.
Don’t be used and don’t be fooled by this guy Atlanta! We can’t afford Reed, literally. As for Stephanie Ramgage’s love for Reed? Go figure? NORWOOD for MAYOR ON DECEMBER 1 !!!!!!!
Pinball34
November 29th, 2009
5:32 am
SHAME ON YOU, NIQUE.
Sophie's post is the best yet
November 29th, 2009
6:12 am
You couldn’t ask for a better post to totally deconstruct the facade that is Kasim Reed and lay it all bare for the voters to see.
Reed sycophants want you to look at the record. Well Sophie granted your wish, and in the process destroyed any and all credibility of anybody who claims Reed wants to do what’s best for Atlanta.
Kasim Reed wants to do what’s best for Kasim Reed. And that’s well and good, but the last thing we need is to subsidize the Kasim Reed personal ambition tour.
Nique's the Man!
November 29th, 2009
6:24 am
Nique made a smart move! All the African-American celebrities in Atlanta need to come out and show their support for Kasim, who will be the best mayor of Atlanta!!!
The Late Maynord Jackson
November 29th, 2009
6:55 am
Reed is a MAN OF THE PEOPLE & THE MACHINE. The votres can count on him to do what’s best for the machine. Vote Reed EARLY & Vote Reed OFTEN.
The Late Maynord Jackson
November 29th, 2009
6:56 am
that should have been VOTERS….
Stunned
November 29th, 2009
11:05 am
I’m trying to imagine how much whining and cursing there would be in responses to anyone saying “X is a White city/county/state/country, and should have a White mayor/commissioner/governor/president”. Ignorance and hypocrisy are only tolerated in Black communities? Pitiful.
PoliticOracle
November 29th, 2009
11:52 am
@Sophie
Your comments resemble the distortions of Mary Norwood so much, it is uncanny. I will have to study the Parks issue a bit more before I comment on it, but your comments regarding the TADs and the Tax referendum are patently false and very misleading. As an active member if my NPU, the City Planning Department does a pretty decent job at informing neighborhoods about legislation and other initiatives that are being proposed and debated on the city and state level. It is at my home NPU where I stay abreast of all things political in the city.
As for you false claims that the TADs only benefitted Buckhead, if I’m not mistaken there are NO TADs in Buckhead. The closest TAD to Buckhead would be Atlantic Station and it is a cash cow for city revenue. The other TADs are: Westside TAD for Downtown, Perry/Bolton in Northwest Atl, Campbellton Rd, Martin Luther King and Turner Field. These areas are all centers of blight and delapidation and were on track to benefit the city until that Buckhead lawyer brought a lawsuit to the state challenging the constitutionality of TADs and won. His efforts were overturned by the voters in the state when Gov. Perdue let voters decided, just like Reed and others wanted to do about other tax-raising measures – let the citizenry decide. But the biggest issue of them all is : the measures you’re trying to hang Reed with – NORWOOD SUPPORTED!
Norwood has been squarely behind the TADs and letting the tax-payers decide what they want to spend their tax dollars on. This measure was supported throughout the state and have been proven to work across the country.
Part of my problem with Norwood and many of her supporters is the blatant misinformation that they spread for political gain. Listen, when this race really began to heat up earlier in te year I was open to all the candidates. Even though I was most familiar with Norwood because of her role on city council, I decided to take an objective approach to Borders, Norwood, Reed and Spikes. It was very hard, because Borders seemed very knowledgeable and Reed seemed to be a smart newcomer, but I was concerned with his ability to win because he was in the field with 2 better-known candidates. I ruled out Mary Norwood early on because her record on council was one of the weakest and I just wasn’t impressed with her attending NPU meetings and community functions. Even though I do not work in the political arena, I am very involved in my neighborhood and my views of a successful legislator is found in their ability to propose and pass legislation that benefit the jurisdidction where they are serving. I charge the chief executive with the responsibility of maintaining a good functionality on a day-to-day basis.
Honestly, Mary Norwood hasn’t done very much in her time on council. Much of the failed policies she now hangs on the administration she supported like the 2 pension hikes. Kasim Reed impressed me when he took the pension and made it his first priority next to public safety. Norwood has admitted publicly that she doesn’t understand the budget and she often complains of not being able to receive information from the city. Its funny that none of the other councilnenbers ever have these complaints. Hardworking councilmembers that aren’t looking to move up like; Felicia Moore and Howard Shook never complain about the lack of information.
Its troubling that Norwood and her ilk want there to be a magic pot of money that the mayor’s been hiding so they can show egg on the face of the administration.
Justin Weideman and a bunch of Buckhead business people (mostly Republican) want control of the city of Atlanta. This is part of the reason the State Democratic party got involved in this race, because of all the dishonesty and deceipt Mary Norwood has projected throughout this election season.
Come on now, anyone that can’t remember who they voted for in presidential elections has something to hide. I could care less if Norwood’s a Republican. I have conservative leanings myself, but to lie about it is very disheartening. To make the claim that the city finance department is engaged in Enron-like accounting and the Water department meter claims proves that Norwood has honesty issues. Her vote against the furlough tax increases also speak volumes as to her nature to pander. I’m not for senseless tax hikes either, but I like leaders to lead and propose alternatives. This is why I’m supporting Ceasar Mitchell for Council President. He didn’t just vote against the tax hike in 2008, he also found additional monies in other places to reopen the West End fire stattion.
I’m sorry folks, but Norwood just doesn’t cut it and you will all be surprised at how many white, black, gay and straight people feel the same. Kasim Reed will win and I hope everyone will come together and not try to obstruct our city’s progress.
Oh yeah, your claims against Reed using the Mayoral office as a stepping stone totally holds up to Mary Norwood’s M.O. For the past three years. She’s been using hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to “communicate” with constituents, by trinkets and food. This behavior is a shining example of a stone-stepper. I’m not claiming that Reed is perfect, but he’s much more poised to lead the city out of this morass. He’s done much more than sit on the sidelines and criticize the current administration and not offer solutions and resolve.
All,
Remember to vote Kasim Reed for Mayor on Dec. 1.
@Stuned
November 29th, 2009
12:05 pm
Don’t be stunned, those posters on this thread saying those disparaging things are Norwood supporters using this thread to stoke racial flames. Norwood is doing the same in her ad. No one has mentioned race in this campaign save for Norwood.
This lady is a joke and this white male isn’t buying the bologna.
What has she done besides talk? Let me answer that…NOTHING!
The Late Maynord Jackson
November 29th, 2009
12:24 pm
PoliticOracle … Keep up the good work and you’ll be getting a really nice minority partnership.. That’s correct you’ll be a card carrying member of the MACHINE..
Sophie
November 29th, 2009
12:28 pm
Hey OIracle……..TADS were set up for blighted and underserved areas Do you homework. Look at cousins Terminus in buckhead and St. Regis in Buckhead….hardley blighted, and fall under TAD. Yes, I now Mary supports TADS for intended blighted areas to encourage development. She isn’t the one slipping legislation through at the 12th hour at the captitol to help out some developers. Reed is.
Reed doesn’t pay his taxes, is caught and says he is minority partner in his business $44K+ in arrears when he is the finance manager of record? Come on Oracle. isn’t he part of our problem with revenue collections? We wouldn’t need a tax hike if he and so many others would pay their taxes! AND he can well afford to pay them, that is what is so egregious about it all. HE can afford it and just doesn’t!!! Bill Campbell didn’t pay his taxes either……. similar ego maybe? The laws don’t apply to him? This guy is an outright liar and doesn’t think he needs to pay his fair sharae while the rest of have to. Come on Oracle. It is all there. He is our financial problem.
I have followed Felicia Moore and Howard Shook. Felicia has asked for years for the same documentation that Mary Norwood has asked for. She doesn’t receive it either. Howard Shook’s up Shirley’s skirt. He is quoted in response to the financial mess as saying, “I don’t believe it” and he is Chair of the Finance committee for the past 4-6 years? He admitted he is clueless!! Why would he ask for information or complain when he doesn’t know what is going on? Hejust warms up a seat down there to have an income as he has never had a job since he has been in Atlanta for 20+ years. What does that say about getting information on finances. Keep’em in the dark and the money can bemoved.
Not a neighborhood in this city hasn’t called Mary Norwood to help them by being a voice on an issue. She is a city wide council person. It is the individual council members who should be handling their own districts but they don’t. Unfortunately, while council should be as legislators, they end up being the dept that gets the trash picked up, the sidewlaks fixed, etc. Because Mary knows the issues, she will make a better Atlanta Mayor. Let Reed go to Washington where he wants to be….wonder where he will move to next to run for office? After John Lewis’s seat? Can he beat Saxby? Come on Oracle, Mary will be our next Mayor and we will be all the better for it. She will stand up to the business as usual politic down there and clean house.
Oracle, you want to keep on paying your unfair share, then Reed is your man. I don’t. I and thousands of others are sick of it. We don’t need tax increases for reduced services. We need financial oversight, transparency and someone who isn’t connected to the last 30+ years of mismanagement. .Reed has favors to pay, ownership. Mary isn’t owned by anyone, she is a city candidate of the citizens. VOTE MARY ON TUESDAY!!! She will win this race as I have faith in the citizens all over this city who are supporting her. We are all tired of the business as usual politics down at 55 Trinity Avenue and Hartsfield-Jackson.
PoliticOracle
November 29th, 2009
1:00 pm
I’m an official name that the campaign uses as the alias for many people to sit around all day and type useless information on this blog.
The Late Maynord Jackson
November 29th, 2009
1:03 pm
PoliticOracle…….You need to get your facts correct before writing.. Sophie keeps handing you your head. If Reed loses, there will be no minority partnership at the Jackson Airport for you.
Rick
November 29th, 2009
1:14 pm
I listening to Norwood AD she have mention race and she keep saying the other camp. I wonder what other camp she referring. I see Norwood on tv and she in the black neighborhood with these paid voters holding her sign and they follow here everywhere but the white area I wonder why she dont take these black people in the white area with her.
@Stuned
November 29th, 2009
1:22 pm
@Sophie
I really don’t think the Buckhead projects you’re talking about are TADs but I’m not sure, so I won’t refute until I can research them myself. Really, the onus is on you to prove that they are because I’ve checked ADA’s website and there are only Downtown TADs (East and West), The Stadium TAD, Campellton Rd., Beltline and Perry/Bolton. I hope your comments aren’t another attempt to misinform people, because a lot of that happens on these threads. As for Reed’s tax issues, there have been numerous news sources to look into this matter and they said that everything checks out and I’m going to take their word of yours and Norwood’s. I don’t believe the news reason to be in the tank for Reed, especially credible sources.
Felicia Moore and Mary Norwood are provided the same information that you and I can get with an open records request and once they get it, they’ve found that the money’s accounted for and thoughtful leaders go back to finding solutions. Ms. Norwood, on the other hand, seems to get a kick out of grandstanding and pointing fingers at everyone but herself. I honsestly despise leaders like that.
Please provide factual data that supports your claims about the TADs in Buckhead.
@Stuned sticks finger in light socket
November 29th, 2009
1:36 pm
@Stuned that you for pointing out that Bunny Jackson and no other Reed supporter has brought race into this issue.
And PoliticOracle has met his or her match in Sophie. Whether you are as detailed as Sophie, or trust your gut instinct like Danny in this week’s StreetTalk in Creative Loafing who said something about Kasim just don’t flow right, no matter how you approach it, you end up with the same conclusion.
Kasim Reed simply can’t be trusted.
@Stuned gets today's laughingstock award
November 29th, 2009
1:43 pm
@Stuned says tries to criticize someone for interjecting race into the discussion, then turns around and tries to convince he is a white male.
@Stuned please keep posting, and please make sure every time you post that you let us know your a Reed supporter.
PoliticOracle
November 29th, 2009
1:56 pm
The last post from @Stuned was me. I inadvertedly copied the handle from the wrong post (I do that to be sure I’ve spelled the posters name correctly). I meant to copy directly to Sophie.
I have not met my match, as this no competition to me. I am still waiting on Sophie to prove that the Buckhead projects she mentioned are TADs. I have checked ADA’s website and there is no mention of the two Buckhead developments, I’m not even sure how you are connecting the two.
Again, Norwood supporters are very gung-ho about this woman who has done nothing in her current post. I’m sorry, I’m just not buying the “she’ll be a great mayor line because she talks to the people”. I want a mayor that can do more than talk to the people. I want a strong chief executive who has a track record of leadership and tough decision making. Norwood hasn’t demonstrated any of this and you all know it. You just want this woman to be mayor because she’s white and that’s prejudiced and its become more transparent since her latest ad injects race when no one else has brought it up. Reed has lots of white supporters in my East Lake neighborhood and they don’t trust Mary Norwood. One of them has said that she never give eye contact when she speaks to people. I don’t like innuendo and rumor, but it is what it is. Mary Norwood is selling wolf tickets and so are many of her supporters. Thing is, not many are buying this crap.
She has no record and nothing to back up all the claims she makes about what she’d do as mayor.
The Late Maynord Jackson
November 29th, 2009
2:03 pm
Are you PoliticOracle or @Stuned. If Reed wins there is only 1 Minority contract at the Jackson Airport for you.
WhiteReedSupporter
November 29th, 2009
2:04 pm
Bunnie Jackson has no official position with the Kasim Reed campaign. She’s a supporter like I am. I have heard some pretty disgusting remarks from both sides but the difference is, Ralph Long’s not around to capture it on video and send out emails.
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November 29th, 2009
2:05 pm
@Stuned sticks finger in light socket
1:36 pm
How did Bunny Jackson start the Race question?
The Late Maynord Jackson
November 29th, 2009
2:08 pm
Last time I looked Bunny Jackson was part of the Jackson Machine.
PoliticOracle
November 29th, 2009
2:16 pm
@The late
I’m PoliticOracle and I am not the first @Stuned. I mistakenly copied the handle in my attempt to respond to Sophie.
Also, stop it with the Minority Contract and I’m a Reed staffer jokes. I’m not a minority and I’m definitely not a Reed staffer – though I have volunteered with his campaign recently.
While we’re on the subject, why are people so up in arms about Atlanta’s Minority program? Do you want all the large firms in the city to get all the contracts? Or do you want more contracts for yourself. I’ve only seen one case brought against the city’s program and even that one was a loss for the plaintiff.
Some white people in this town are hilarious. You get on these threads and play victim. I’m sick of it. YOU ARE NOT A VICTIM! Atlanta is a great city that needs improvement, but people are still moving here in droves and I for one am sick of all that whinning white people. People are suffering all over this city, not just you and Mary Norwood has done nothing to solve the city’s problems.
I’m still waiting on Sophie to prove that Buckhead has TADs.
The Late Maynord Jackson
November 29th, 2009
2:22 pm
PoliticOracle
2:16 pm
That’s strange my name is always in the name block. Are you a little kid at the public library?
Truth
November 29th, 2009
2:23 pm
PoliticOracle… What are the different names you post under?
Rick
November 29th, 2009
2:25 pm
I heard the Buckhead business organization are switching to Reed camp and they said Norwood is chasen people away from her camp because of the whinning and she campaign in the black neighborhood and the gay area she have left Buckhead out so think she got Buckhead in her hand she going to overwhelm win Buckhead support but they said they got rude awakening for her she going lose Buckhead.
PoliticOracle
November 29th, 2009
2:28 pm
There is no Jackson Machine. Machine’s don’t exist in Atlanta or the South at all! Chicago is a machine. At best Atlanta has an establishment. Machines are organized in every precinct and have influence for beyond what these folks in Atlanta have. If Atlanta had a machine, a light-weight like Norwood would never have a shot.
Please stop with the distractions and misinformation.
insider
November 29th, 2009
2:30 pm
PoliticOracle is Kasim Reed
Teela
November 29th, 2009
2:33 pm
This Rick is Mess Up.
No one could write the very same way as Mess Up. “chasen” , etc. for grammar.
LOL! But it’s ok, Messed Up Rick: Tuesday will be the proof of the pudding.
And can it get any worse???
As our dead Maynord sez: “Vote early and vote often”.
LOL!.
PoliticOracle
November 29th, 2009
2:37 pm
Yeah, I’m Kasim Reed. Hilarious! I shouldn’t have ever explain the mis-post.
Marie Norwood
November 29th, 2009
2:40 pm
Teela and The Late Maynord Jackson are the same person and PoliticOracle’s a female.
By the way, whatever happened to my rap song. Gettin votes from around the way!
Rick
November 29th, 2009
2:45 pm
Thank You Marie Norwood because i figure Teela was Late Maynord Jackson and she think I am Mess Up she got me wrong I dont even know that person is on here and Teela is Zee Bradford Campaign Staff and Jackalope is Ramon Levit he is Norwood Campaign manager.
Teela you wrong again you dont have a clue who I am so go find you a Norwood sign to steal
Teela
November 29th, 2009
2:46 pm
I, like Dominique Wilkins, have decided that I’m not supporting Kasim Reed. Mary Norwood has not shown that she has the competence or leadership skills neccessary to be mayor.
I urge all Norwood supporters to look at her record. It is very shallow and it doesn’t go beyond talking and studies. He legislative accomplishments pale in comparison to Reed’s.
I urge you all to vote Kasim Reed for Mayor of Atlanta.
Rick
November 29th, 2009
2:49 pm
I dont think Politic Oracle is Kasim Reed he is getting ready for the debate and I think Kasim is out getting out the message how he going to deliver Atlanta.
Norwood is out whinning and dont know how to fix her campaign before Tuesday.
Teela
November 29th, 2009
2:51 pm
My name is Teela I am going to vote for Kasim Reed for mayor.
Of course there's no machine politicoracle
November 29th, 2009
2:56 pm
Of course there’s no machine politcoracle. That’s why everybody, including mainstream media in Atlanta, have been talking about the Jackson Machine for over thirty years.
I also heard that story about the Olympics being in Atlanta was made up too.
Sandra Thomas
November 29th, 2009
3:03 pm
I’m very disheartened to see that Mary has decided to use race in this campaign. I have already voted for her but as an African American, it is very misleading for Mary to suggest that Kasim Reed has tried to divide the city racially. I don’t watch the news everyday or read the newspapers all the time, but I haven’t seen anywhere where Kasim Reed mentioned race during this election.
The only distinction of conversation has been about Mary’s party affiliation. I don’t care if she’s a Republican or Democrat becase this race is non-partisan, but for her to try and say Reed is making this election about race is totally misleading. My husband told me not to buy into Norwood’s story and I should’ve listened.
This lady is a liar and I don’t appreciate all the dishonesty over the past few weeks. All this stuff seems silly when Atlanta has so many other issues. I didn’t vote against Reed because of Shirley Franklin or because he’s black, but because I believed in Mary. She is making me second guess my choice now, though.
I hope she clarifies what she means in her new commercial, because it doesn’t add up.
Sandra Thomas
Beecher Hills
Sandra Beecher
November 29th, 2009
3:08 pm
Sandra, please provide us with the exact quote, the EXACT quote were Mary Norwood accused Kasim Reed of intejecting race into the election.
We look forward to you providing the EXACT quote from Mary Norwood, that implicated Kasim Reed specifically for interjecting race into this election.
Thank you in advance
Sandra Beecher
November 29th, 2009
3:08 pm
Sorry that last post name should have read @Sandra Beecher
PoliticOracle's list of things that don't exist in Atlanta
November 29th, 2009
3:12 pm
Just to set the record straight politicOracle has made a handy list of things that don’t exist in Atlanta
The Jackson Machine
The Georgia Dome
The Jackson Machine
Traffic
The Jackson Machine
The Varsity
The Jackson Machine
Turner Field
The Jackson Machine
CNN
The Jackson Machine
Coca-Cola
The Jackson Machine.
Remember, these are things that DON’T exist in Atlanta
PoliticOracle
November 29th, 2009
3:21 pm
It’s a shame the way some of you people purposelly wallow in ignorance. I already knew from my undergrad days that Atlanta’s political scene isn’t categorized as a machine, but I just did a quick google search to prove my point. As I already knew, Atlanta was mentioned by any credible (academic sources) as a machine. In fact, the only place in Georgia to mentioned as a place where a political machine thrived is Augusta. The Cracker Party was our state’s second largest city’s machine of choice for many years. Don’t believe me? Google it. Makes me wonder if Mary Norwood knows anything about the Cracker Party.
American political establishments are the Tammany Halls in New York, The Daley Machine in Chicago and a few other smaller, lesser known machines in the Midwest.
Get a life clowns and stop making things up to prove your point!
Sandra Thomas
November 29th, 2009
3:33 pm
First off, my name is Sandra Thomas, not Sandra Beecher. And I was born at night, but it wasn’t last night. I don’t have the exact quotation from Mary, but we have all seen her commercial and I, and several other people, know that Mary is misleading people by suggesting Kasim Reed is using race to divide Atlanta. Don’t try to insult my intelligence, I am a retired educator and I know exactly what she was saying in that commercial. You are trying to be misleading just like she is. I hope she does a good job explaining tonight, because I’ll be watching.
This is not the Mary that I know, she is better than this and I was willing to give her a shot with my vote. I don’t like being mislead and the people around her need to think before they send certain messages.
Sandra Thomas
November 29th, 2009
3:41 pm
I used to teach my students to be honest and not to throw rocks and hide your hands. I thought Mary was the best person in this race, but her actions as of late are very discouraging. What it all this fuss about race going to get us. I thought we had reached a new height as Americans. We have a beautiful black family in the White House and I don’t care what race the mayor is. That’s why I voted for Mary, but I won’t stand for the political games.
I voted for Maynard Jackson and I had no problem supporting Mary Norwood, please don’t make me regret it.
@ Retired educator Sandra Thomas
November 29th, 2009
3:46 pm
Retired educator, you should know better than to try to come on here and say the dog ate my homework when it comes to you providing proof to the bald face lie that Mary Norwood has a commercial out saying Kasim Reed has made this election about race.
You know how to use a computer right? Google her last commercial, and give us the EXACT quote where she said Kasim Reed is interjecting race.
Because right now, the only person I see trying to interject race into this election as a divisive tactic is retired educator Sandra Thomas.
Sandra Thomas
November 29th, 2009
3:59 pm
Why am I being attacked on here? I am a Mary Norwood supporter, I’m just concerned about Mary’s new direction and I have a right not to like it. Don’t try to bully me because I’m speaking my mind. You can act like she isn’t suggesting these things all you want, but it doesn’t change the message that many are getting. Mary is running against one person and that is Kasim Reed.
What she did is reflective of the very political games she’s supposed to be working against and rising above.
I’m being honest. I don’t know how to find the her commercial online, but I just saw it as I was watching television. I would’ve never come on this website if I knew I would get attacked like this. If you know how to find the commercial please post it and I’ll show you the exact words that I, and many others, don’t like. We were talking about it after church this morning and we all agree.
More fun and games from politcoracle
November 29th, 2009
4:00 pm
politicoracle to claim that the Jackson political machine wasn’t as ingrained or as well organized as Tammany Hall is correct. To claim therefore, that there is no semblance of organization when it comes to a Jackson birthed political structure is laughable.
And please enlighten us as to why you feel it was necessary to ask if Mary Norwood is aware of the Cracker Party.
Are there some implications with that statement that you would like to spell out us?
Ironically Fox 5 is showing the Atlanta Falcons playing in the Georgia Dome right now.
Ironic since as we know, just like the Jackson machine, neither the Falcons or the Georgia Dome exist.
@ Retired educator Sandra Thomas
November 29th, 2009
4:03 pm
You aren’t being attacked. You are just being asked a simple question to confirm a statement you made.
You say you saw a commercial for Mary Norwood, and in that commercial Mary Norwood made the specific statement that Kasim Reed has interjected race into that campaign.
Unfortunately I can’t find the Mary Norwood commercial where she said that Kasim Reed has interjected race into the campaign.
If you can find the quote where Mary Norwood specifically said that Kasim Reed has interjected race into this campaign, please share it, that’s all.
I found it for you Sandra Thomas!
November 29th, 2009
4:08 pm
I found the quote for you Sandra Thomas. Now you can tell us what you don’t like about it.
During the next few weeks, I intend to do whatever I can to wake up those African Americans who have become “bamboozled” into believing that a moderately educated, southern white women will do something for them.
This is the quote you were talking about, right? The one that interjects race into the election.
Rick
November 29th, 2009
4:09 pm
I confess….I am Messed Up bad!!! I work for Reed. I his campaign manager.
Now, where is my check, you rascal. I’ll show you a Machine. Pay up!
PoliticOracle's list of things that don't exist in Atlanta
November 29th, 2009
4:11 pm
PoliticOracle wants us to know, that this alleged quote comes from an email that doesn’t exists, because just like the Jackson political machine, Bunny Jackson-Ransom doesn’t exists.
It’s just all a figment of someone’s imagination.
PoliticOracle
November 29th, 2009
4:14 pm
You’re not making much sense on here and its obvious you’re not fully reading my posts. I have stated that there is a political. ESTABLISHMENT in this city, but I have continuosly spoken against the suggestion that there’s a machine in Atlanta.
You should research Political Machines a little bit and it may help you understand them a little better. A politcal machine consists of so many more layers than what we have here in Atlanta. I am not trying to skirt the issues here. Atlanta definitely has a political establishment, but to suggest that it is a machine is naïve. Atlanta is nowhere near as organized or as corrupt as the actual political machines that have existed in this country. If there was a machine in this city, Mary Norwood wouldn’t have ever gotten this far.
I mentioned the Cracker Party because it was a real machine in Augusta. I didn’t make this up. I read a story in the Augusta Chronicle about Norwood’s family and how they were involved in politics in Augusta. It’s a fair question and I just wanted to know.
The Late Maynord Jackson
November 29th, 2009
4:15 pm
I am watching the Falcons on FOX and PoliticOracle is correct the Falcons DO NOT exist.
The Late Maynord Jackson
November 29th, 2009
4:17 pm
Wops, I was really wrong the just won on a pass with 4th & goal.. Looks like PoliticOracle is WRONG AGAIN..
TRUTH
November 29th, 2009
4:22 pm
Norwood has gone this far because Reed is that bad. The voters are just sick of the Jackson Machine corruption.
PoliticOracle's list of things that don't exist in Atlanta
November 29th, 2009
4:23 pm
PoliticOracle, if it makes you happy to call it the Jackson political establishment instead of the machine, then the point is conceded. If you want to state further that it doesn’t operate exactly like Tammany Hall did, point conceded.
But to imply that the Cracker political machine in Augusta is somehow germane to this election in Atlanta in 2009, because Mary Norwood’s ancestors were involved in politics in Augusta is clearly jumping the shark.
Of course you would have nothing to do with any attempt to tie the word Cracker to Mary Norwood would you?
Sandra Thomas
November 29th, 2009
4:27 pm
I only listen to what the candidates say in elections. Gung-ho supporters say a lot of stupid things to try and drum up support for their candidates. I was appaled at the comments Bunnie Jackson made and the Clark AU professors, but Kasim Reed didn’t make those comments. Nor did Lisa Borders or Mary Norwood. In fact, they’ve all been surprisingly civil throughout this campaign until this latest ad. I don’t like the way Mary tries to subtlely accuse Kasim Reed of injecting race into this campaign. No one has mentioned her race in this campaign and I have not been harrassed for supporting her either. I was a proud Norwood supporter, but i don’t like these tricky tactics. I don’t believe Mary is pushing these things, but the people around her need to be shown the door for this mess.
You all know this is misleading and I hope she clarifies what she meant tonight at the debate. If she was speaking toward Bunnie Jackson and the Clark A U professors she needs to call them out by name, but she and Kasim Reed had done a good job being tolerant until her latest commercial.
John from Augusta
November 29th, 2009
4:28 pm
The Augusta Political Machine was formed around a state senator named Charles Walker. He is currently in federal prison for corruption. Ms Norwood’s family is not of the correct ethnic background to be part of the Walker Machine. Charles Walker and Roy Barnes were good friends but I doubt that they have visited in jail.
Let's talk about the quote
November 29th, 2009
4:29 pm
I found the quote Sandra Thomas was talking about, that interjected race into the election
During the next few weeks, I intend to do whatever I can to wake up those African Americans who have become “bamboozled” into believing that a moderately educated, southern white women will do something for them.
Can you believe Mary Norwood said that? Some nerve.
I hope she does to Sandra Thomas
November 29th, 2009
4:33 pm
I hope the question is asked, I hope Norwood repeats the Bunny Jackson quote word for word, then looks Kasim straight in the eye, and challenges him to look directly into the camera at Atlanta voters and tell us, does he, or does he not agree with Bunny Jackson-Ransom, who has been one of his biggest supporters?
I would like that Sandra Thomas. Would you like that?
MC W
November 29th, 2009
4:34 pm
“Some white people in this town are hilarious. You get on these threads and play victim. I’m sick of it. YOU ARE NOT A VICTIM! Atlanta is a great city that needs improvement, but people are still moving here in droves and I for one am sick of all that whinning white people.”
Some of us have a fair reason to whine. For instance: being assaulted in front of a large crowd of cheering onlookers (black) by an enormous, very-well dressed rabble-rouser (black) immediately beyond the line of vision of Atlanta Police officers. This is my story, and were it not for the sixty dollars I had in my wallet I may not be in full health today, if alive.
I couldn’t help but wonder why it was that they were pointing and laughing. Some of them were married couples with children in tow. But, being in the South, I decided to use Southern “logic” to try and understand my “audience” and found that the one thing separating myself from them was phenotype, i.e. continent of ancestry, i.e. race.
What happened?
I was confronted by this man for no reason at all, except that he thought I threw away his mp3 player (or something). Apologizing profusely for the misunderstanding, and then told that I would receive the beating of a lifetime, I called him an idiot. Stupid? Yes. But do I deserve to die for throwing out a barb like “idiot”? I’ve been called much worse in my lifetime.
Here’s what we “whinning white people” are tired of: living in fear. We didn’t grow up marching in Klan parades, but from the treatment we receive on a DAILY basis in Atlanta an onlooker would think it were so.
Oh yea. What if I said I was tired of violent, angry, hateful black people? Would Jim receive a call for this comment to be removed? How fair is that?
I hope she does TOO Sandra Thomas
November 29th, 2009
4:34 pm
Pardon the grammar mistake retired educator!
PoliticOracle
November 29th, 2009
4:39 pm
Dude, cool your jets. I deal in facts and facts suggest that Atlanta doesn’t have anything close to a political present in its political system. Understand what a political machine is, before you comment on it. Do you consider President Barack Obama a socialist? Because Fox News does, but does that make him one? No it doesn’t. There is an academic definition of what socialism is just like there is one for political machine.
I was not suggesting that Mary was a part of the Cracker Party in Augusta, in fact I don’t even know if the Cracker Party’s name has anything to do with race. Don’t give me your race-baiting. I’m not the one trying to racialize this election. It looks like Ms. Norwood has already done that and angered one of her black supporters, even though I agree that she didn’t call Reed out by name with the race accussations. What she said in the ad is fair game, because of some of Reed’s supporters.
John from Augusta
November 29th, 2009
4:42 pm
PoliticOracle….”I deal in facts”… What facts id you have to accuse Ms. Norwood’s family of being part of the Walker Machine?
John from Augusta
November 29th, 2009
4:44 pm
id should be did.. sorry
Chutzpah politicoracle
November 29th, 2009
4:45 pm
politicoracle puts the term Cracker Party in the same sentence as Mary Norwood and then wants to accuse others of race baiting?
Now that’s chutzpah!
PoliticOracle
November 29th, 2009
4:53 pm
I honestly don’t know anything about the Cracker Party, except that it was in Augusta. I’m sorry, I shouldn’t have even posted about it. I never want my comments to be used as race-fodder.
If Charles Walker was a part of the Cracker Party then it has nothing to do with race.
politicoracle makes a Freudian slip
November 29th, 2009
4:55 pm
politicoracle, though you are crafty, even you aren’t above making a Freudian slip, as you did with your last sentence in your last post:
What she said in the ad is fair game, because of some of Reed’s supporters.
Exactly. Because of the reprehensible statements like those of Bunny Jackson and others, Norwood is well within her rights to point out that some Reed supporters have, in the most ugly of ways, tried to interject race into this election.
Thank you for confirming the legitimacy of her ad with your Freudian slip politicoracle.
Mary takes the high road
November 29th, 2009
4:59 pm
Actually she didn’t even say some Reed supporters, she just said some and left it at that, knowing full well that some of both sides have engaged in some ugly rhetoric. Even though the Reed camp has people of much higher profile than the Norwood camp engaging in such ugly tactics, Norwood left it at the word some.
That’s Mary taking the high road, once again!
PoliticOracle
November 29th, 2009
5:03 pm
It wasn’t a slip clown. I don’t like the Bunnie Ransom comments and they are counter-productive in this campaign. Bottom line is, Reed’s record speak’s for itself. Mary Norwood pales in comparison to him.
I saw earlier where someone said that my handle is being used by the Reed campaign. Thanks for the flattery, but no thanks. I don’t think they’d like the way I was critique I’ve been handing out.
PoliticOracle shows us what's under the facade
November 29th, 2009
5:09 pm
Ever notice when politcoracle makes a misstep, like the Freudian slip, how the civilized facade of the oh so astute political commentator fades away and the name calling begins?
I wonder if that’s why Kasim Reed resonates so well with politicoracle?
PoliticOracle
November 29th, 2009
5:11 pm
@Mary takes the high road.
It’s bad messaging. If she wasn’t directing her comments at Reed, it wasn’t worth bringing up. I think the lady a few posts up has a point and it would be interesting to know how many Norwood supporters feel the same.
I think it was a risky ad, but we’ll see what happens Tuesday.
The Late Maynord Jackson
November 29th, 2009
5:12 pm
PoliticOracle…. Call it a day, you are not helping Reed.
VOTE REED EARLY & OFTEN…
PoliticOracle
November 29th, 2009
5:22 pm
Its no facade, you’re being sophomoric so I have to put you in your place. I have never come on here and spewed ignorance and misinformation. When I believe something the be right I stand up for it, no matter which candidate I support. There have been times where I took my comments too far and I stepped back and apologized or corrected the information.
I’ll say again as I said yesterday, if Norwood wins I will support her because I put Atlanta first. I don’t want Mary Norwod to be mayor, because she looks different than the past four mayors.
Mary Norwood is not a stronf leader and she has shown little competence as a city councilmember. If you’re supporting her that’s you right, but I’m with Reed on this one. It took me a while to get there, but he’s the best candidate. I’m not moved by candidates that have been “around”. I have seen lots of people be “around” and “accessible” but that doesn’t answer our city’s ills. Thanks but no thanks.
I have laid out many reasons wh I support Reed. Tell me why you support Norwood. Actually, spare me the rhetoric and let the voters do the talking on Tuesday.
PoliticOracle shows us what's under the facade
November 29th, 2009
5:24 pm
I hope it comes up tonight politicoracle. I hope the moderator repeats the Ransom quote word for word, then asks Reed to look the voters directly in the eye and tell them whether or not he supports that statement made by one of his major supporters.
That alone would be worth the price of admission
PoliticOracle
November 29th, 2009
5:29 pm
@The Late
You wish I would go away. I’m waiting on this debate and balancing my accounts for the month.
Why do you choose to use the handle that defiles the dead?
PoliticOracle
November 29th, 2009
5:30 pm
@The Late
You wish I would go away. I’m waiting on this debate and balancing my accounts for the month.
Why do you choose to use the handle that defiles the dead?
You’re not helping Mary Norwood either. Many of her African American supporters compare her accessibility to the late mayor.
@sophi'e post is the best yet!
November 29th, 2009
5:30 pm
You are dead on the money RIGHT you have succintly stated what is true reed is an egotistical, arrogant self loathing selfish little twit he needs a smack up side his head what kind of sugar is in stepahnie rampages kool aide i don’t understand why his mother and brothers have not reeled in this silly two year old b/c at times that is what he acts lke sadly his 40 and almost at the point where he is stuck in his selfish ways i can’t imagine what kind of behind he will be to his wife if that ever happens i met the guy and as much as i hate to admit it i do see him for what he is but there is redemption that only God and humbleness can do for kasim sad to say but i don’t want him to win he is not sincere he is selfish i understand wanting a career in politics there is nothing wrong with that it is just the man’s attitude/arrogance and lying is what gets me he is questionable on ethics in both his personal and professional life if he continues this way he will be a man alone both personally and professionally. mary needs to win for atlanta’s future and kasim needs to take a break and talk to God seriously! I do wish him well and mary also. good night
The Late Maynord Jackson
November 29th, 2009
5:31 pm
PoliticOracle Why do you choose to use the handle that defiles good judgement?
PoliticOracle I'll tell you why
November 29th, 2009
5:38 pm
The best reason to support Norwood. There are only two candidates left in the race. So much for me being a paid Norwood staffer LOL.
Each candidate has a record of strengths and weaknesses. Norwood has been more willing to take on the political establishment, when she’s in a reduced power position, Reed has shown more ability to work with the party in power when he’s in a reduced power position.
But when are the arcane policy issues that wonks like to talk about are put aside, I go back to gut instinct. And the best summation I have heard yet of Kasim Reed was by a guy named Danny in Creative Loafing’s Strettalk.
Something about Reed just don’t flow right.
The was this book out awhile back called The Gift of Fear, where crime victims distrusted their gut instincts, sometimes out of fear they would look rude or impolite, and became crime victims because of it. Not that Kasim is like any of the monsters described in the book. The degree is not the same, but the principle is.
Underneath the slick facade, gut instinct says there’s a unseemly underbelly, that Atlanta can’t afford. An underbelly that says Kasim Reed does what’s best for Kasim Reed, not what’s best for Atlanta’s average citizens.
Not the best endorsement of Mary Norwood, but right now, the race is down to the final two.
PoliticOracle
November 29th, 2009
5:43 pm
Don’t answer a question with a question. Can’t you get your points across fairly, without bringing in a dead person that still has family that may read these posts. I’ve never really read your comments because of your handle.
There are many hysterical voters in this town ready to vote in Norwood, because she’s white. Its sickening to me and don’t start assuming I’m black, because you know what assuming does.
You’d probably be really surprised if you met me. I’m from a very diverse background. White or black, many in this town see past Mary’s fluff and are ready to elect Kasim as OUR mayor.
The Late Maynord Jackson
November 29th, 2009
5:49 pm
PoliticOracle…If you didn’t read, how did you know what I wrote? Not the sharpest tool around.
VOTE REED EARLY & OFTEN…
PoliticOracle I'll tell you why
November 29th, 2009
5:55 pm
Surely oracle you aren’t implying that the only reason anybody is voting for Mary Norwood is that she is white are you? I’m sure some are, just as some will vote for Reed for the same reason.
But let’s not imply that’s the only reason. Character counts, and as it was put so well, something about Reed just don’t flow right.
PoliticOracle
November 29th, 2009
5:55 pm
Let me re-phrase. I don’t take your posts seriously because of your handle. I glance them, but most times they’re as ignorant and classless as your handle.
PoliticOracle I'll tell you why
November 29th, 2009
6:02 pm
PoliticOracle, it’s like the young lady who brings her fiancee home to meet the family. Mom and Dad love him, he’s got the degree, the fancy suit, goes to the right church, has the corner office and says the right things.
But Grandma pulls the young lady aside and says she just doesn’t trust him. Mom and Dad shoo Grandma away, because she’s not wise to the ways of the world, having dropped out of school in fifth grade and spent her life on a farm in the country.
But then it turns out he has two women on the side, and the company is about to fire him for selling documents to a competitor.
Grandma was right. She wasn’t the most learned in the room, or the most sophisticated. Just the only one who read him right. Gut instinct.
PoliticOracle
November 29th, 2009
6:13 pm
@tell you why
Your logic is flawed. You are basing your judgement of Reed on innuendo and that bothers me. Is it because he’s black? There have been many ethical questions asked about Mary Norwood as well. Like her usage of thousands in taxpayer dollars to “communicate” with voters, print fliers and make trinkets for her to run for mayor. I also heard that her council staff has been made up primarily or family members related to her by marriage and that she stole her husband from his first wife when she worked for him while she was younger, but no one is talking about these things because they really aren’t important.
Please tell me how your gut reservations have any credence with this man, who has had a successful 11 year career in the legislature and worked to partner in one of Atlanta’s most prestigious law firms.
If anything, Norwood and Reed both should give equal pause because they’re both human but we’re all human so I’m sure they’ve made mistakes. Do better, because I don’t trust yor gut with this city. If you’re that good, why don’t you run?
Oh PoliticOracle, oh PoliticOracle
November 29th, 2009
6:22 pm
Good as you are you’ve made two missteps in one day. First of all, I’m not basing in strictly on logic. Like I’ve said, after you look at it logically, just like any other situation, you factor in gut instinct. Like the guy in StreetTalk said, like I have said is the best single summation of Reed, something about Reed just don’t flow right.
But that wasn’t your misstep.
You just couldn’t resist playing the race card could you politicoracle? You who acts so above the fray. Is the distrust of Reed because he’s black? Did you really say that?
Did you really ask if the distrust of Reed is because he’s black?
PoliticOracle, I thought better of you. I thought you would truly be on top of your game, and go check out the StreetTalk column before using that time worn ploy.
Because if you had, you would have seen that Danny, on page 11 of Creative Loafing, the one who said it best, the one who said something just don’t flow right with Reed is
An African-American!
Oh politicOracle.
Where'd that train go that just ran me over?
November 29th, 2009
6:42 pm
You never saw it coming did you PoliticOracle did you?
Danny, the guy in Creative Loafing’s Street Talk, the guy who put it best when he said there’s something about Reed that just don’t flow right, just happens to be an African-American.
Yes, when push came to shove, you couldn’t resist playing the Is it because Reed is black? card, could you PoliticOracle?
Then along came Danny from StreetTalk. And you never saw it coming.
PoliticOracle
November 29th, 2009
7:03 pm
Hey, I call it like I see it. Norwood is as fishy, if not fishier, than Reed and I don’t see these accusations hurled at her. She’s been an opportunist, but she gets a pass. She injected race in this election and now its out there. She has to shore up her base if she has any chance of winning, its a huge gamble that she’s probably going to lose.
PoliticOracle
November 29th, 2009
7:08 pm
Did anyone see the debate just now?
MC W
November 29th, 2009
7:16 pm
“She injected race in this election”
How?? I certainly haven’t heard it. What I did hear was the radio ad recorded by the Kasim campaign, featuring Maynard Jackson, R&B music (which I love, incidentally) and a comment about “passing the torch”. What do all of these things, understood together, say to their intended audience?
PoliticOracle
November 29th, 2009
7:28 pm
So the usage of Maynard Jackson’s speeches to appeal to Democratic voters is racist? No its not, if anything it’s uber-partisan. I want to know the same thing that Reed was asking in the debate. Who is Norwood speaking of when she talks about they are trying “divide our city”.
Its a far reach to say Reed has been race-baiting. He has a very diverse cadre of supporters.
Deborah
November 29th, 2009
7:31 pm
PoliticOracle’s comments remind me of Reed talking points: that people are supporting Reed because he is so magnificent, and Norwood because she is white. I know he believes that Norwood’s accomplishments are thin, but then what exactly has Reed done for average Atlanta voter lately?
It’d please me to see why Reed is not the lightweight I perceive him to be, and I bet Mr. Oracle could fill in the blanks as to why he is such an obvious heavyweight, a natural executive or legislative power? How do we know your support for Reed does not flow from racism, the charge you make against “hysterical” Norwood’s supporters?
Teela
November 29th, 2009
7:40 pm
Well, I for one love what “Dead Maynord” has to say because it’s true, true, true. He re-enforces it and each time, at least for me, over time, it makes me think of the Maynard years..
“There are many hysterical voters in this town ready to vote in Norwood, because she’s white. Its sickening to me and don’t start assuming I’m black, because you know what assuming does.”
WHAT??? Ok, I’ll answer in kind. “There are many hysterical voters in this town ready to vote for REED because he’s black.”
Goose and gander stuff, fool.
@ Deborah
November 29th, 2009
7:43 pm
Hey Deborah I just got to toot my own horn a little bit.
Didn’t you just know that when someone was referenced in StreetTalk saying that they just didn’t trust Reed, that a Reed supporter was going to come on here and say it’s because Reed is black? Not even thinking, in their way of thinking, that the person who said it was an African-American?
They didn’t even see it coming, did they? LOL
@Galloway
November 29th, 2009
7:49 pm
@PoliticOracle You seem like a reasonable guy. I encourage you to meet and get to know Kasim Reed. Judging by your message posts, I can guarantee that you will not like what you learn. He is without question one of the most dishonest, self-absorbed men I have met in all of my years on this planet. Mary Norwood may not be a rocket scientist. But if given the choice between Reed and almost anyone else, I would vote for his opponent. Although this conversation has sunk down to racial inuendo and charges of paid bloggers (some true) I will say that some of the attacks I’ve read here are well founded. He is a very smart man, for sure. But it’s a wasted gift when he can only use it to benefit himself.
Sure politcoracle
November 29th, 2009
7:50 pm
Sure politicoracle, the invoking of Maynard, and passing the torch set to a background of R & B music is strictly a democratic partisan ploy, with not even the slightest hint of race involved. It’s strictly an appeal to democrats, because they one thing they are all united in is that their first choice of music is R & B.
Smart isn't everything
November 29th, 2009
7:52 pm
Bernie Madoff is smart. Maybe even smarter than Mary Norwood. Would you want him to be mayor?
Character counts.
don don
November 29th, 2009
7:56 pm
lets face if the republican candidate was black and the democratic candidate was white. the black republican would win in atlanta. it doesnt matter which party the candidate says they are. politicoracle you think youre so smart and know whats best for atlanta then you should run for mayor instead of annoying everybody on her by calling them ignorant.
Funny isn't it?
November 29th, 2009
7:58 pm
Isn’t it funny that some of the same people who claim Mary interjected race into this are the same people who have used the words Mary and Cracker in the same sentence on this blog, and then implied people who don’t trust Reed don’t trust him only because he’s black.
Deborah
November 29th, 2009
8:06 pm
“Atlanta is a black city, a symbol to the world,” said Tom Houck, a political strategist supporting Reed. “Putting Mary’s face on that picture would be hard for a lot of people to stomach.”
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jAmfrB7AOrAcp7nWyoXVJkrvg74wD9C9B06G0
PoliticOracle
November 29th, 2009
8:11 pm
All, I was looking at some of the old posts on here and let me tell you, not all of them are me. I hate posting under different handles, but I’ll have to start back because my handle keeps getting jacked. The poster at 2:16 wasn’t me nor was the poster using my handle to discuss Race. It seems that supporters from both sides have started to use my handle, so from now on I’m gonna post randomly. The election’s almost over anyway. It’s really annoying though. That’s why I have never used my real name on here. It’s open season and anybody can get on here and say anything.
Funny isn't it?
November 29th, 2009
8:14 pm
Surely you don’t think Tom Houck was referring to race with that comment do you Deborah?
I’m sure he must have been referring to the amount of asphalt in Atlanta, and that the symbol of Mary driving on those roads in a ‘98 Buick, instead of a fancy Mercedes or BMW would be hard for image conscious Atlanta to stomach.
That has to be what he was referring to.
Oh politicoracle!
November 29th, 2009
8:17 pm
It’s down and dirty that someone hijacked your handle. But I’m betting that was you on the 6:13 post. Still can’t believe you didn’t do your due diligence and checkout the Creative Loafing StreetTalk column before throwing it out there that people might trust Kasim strictly because he’s black.
Between that and the Freudian slip, it hasn’t been your best day.
Kasim Reed car wreck
November 29th, 2009
8:30 pm
Kasim Reed was in a car wreck after the debate. Thank God he wasn’t hurt. Repeat, he was not hurt! Elin Woods, Tiger Woods’ wife, happened to come by with a seven iron and busted the windows out and rescued Kasim before any harm was done.
Elin Woods rescued Kasim Reed. Talk about embracing diversity. Isn’t it great how Kasim Reed just brings out the best in people?
Sophie
November 29th, 2009
9:09 pm
Sucker Falls, Georgia citizens …. hey now. You are smarter than all this race talk and now trying to make Mary Norwood the racist. come now. She has “some” are trying to divide this city along racial lines, black and white, north and south” What does “some” refer to?………well, how about bunny, how about the profs, how about Mr.Reed and his ‘passing of the torch’ (to hwom, a white woman?). We all know the ‘code words”, like how about “Republican”…that is code for white you know. So, lets talk about Mary’s ad of “some”….apparently she hit a nerve with “some” of you and with Mr. Reed. If you aren’t guilty of it, then let it roll to someone else.
Mr Reed interjected race in thsi campaign with his two 12th hour mailers depicting an black woman looking likeshe had been beaten up, and the elephant in the room one. You know,black code. Sucker Falls citizens, you have been had by Reed once again. He will do anything to get a 12th hour spin to distract you from the truth. He is 4 more years of the same waste and corruption that we have had. I will guarantee you he will be as bad or even worse than Bill Campbell. He has way too many favors to fulfill from this race. He lies, he cheats the public by not paying his taxes, he lies about his record at the captiol. He has pulled way too many last minute slick moves over the voters….many of them we have caught and stopped dead in their tracks. Just ask those of us who have been watching him all these years,
And Sandra, you continue to support Mary. Pastors shouldn’t be talking politics in the church anyway…they are 501 C3 and tax exempt which is illegal by law to be political. Churches need to starat paying taxes anyway…they are way into our government, getting rich tax free, and influencing voters to go a certain way. (Catholic, AME, Baptist, etc.) they all do it. Sandra, don’t be pressured to vote a certain way. Mary didn’t point a finger at any one person,… I know her well …. she said the truth….there are “some” who have been trying to divide this city along racial lines, north and south. She speaks the truth as witnessed in these campaigns for weeks/months.
She is all about unity of Atlanta. She is th eonly council person known in every single neighborhood. Reed has NEVER been to my neighborhood and he will NEVER be here when he is Mayor. How could he have a clue as to what our issue are? He is clueless about Atlanta’s working citizens.
So, Sucker Falls………WAKE UP!! IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO PAY HIGHER TAXES, CONTINUE TO PAY THE HIGHEST WATER/SEWER RATES IN THE COUNTRY, WANT OT CONTINUE TO HAVE CRIMINALS RUNNING THE STREETS, WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THE SAME CRONIES HOLDING ALL THE DOUGH AT THE AIRPORT……..THEN kASIM rEED IS YOUR MAN. IF YOU WANT A REAL CHANGE AND A HOUSE CLEANING AT 55 TRINITY, THEN MARY NORWOOD IS THE ONLY VOTE TO CAST. WE ABSOLUTELY CAN’T AFFORD REED AS MAYOR……….WE CAN’T AFFORD ANOTHER 4-8 YEARS.
Teela
November 29th, 2009
9:17 pm
Politicoracle: My handle “Teela” was hijacked several times. I feel your pain. We may be on the opposite sides of the barriers on this one, but the dishonesty of fools using a posters name here just is….dishonest.
It only creates chaos. Which is the intentions of the mob.
Whomever they are. And right now, it’s time to let the voters decide Tuesday.
I’ve had it with Jim’s blog. Learned some serious lessons here about ’supporters’.
Teela
November 29th, 2009
9:24 pm
Oh, Sophie. I am white and live in SWAtlanta for many years (40 actually). Our household was the only one on our street that DIDN’T receive the Reed mailers. And most times we have voted Democrat.
Could it be because we were too pale to receive his mailers? Just asking.
And….the first time race was injected in this damn election was from the Clark profs and Bunnie.
And whose side again where they supporting???
Just asking. I’m getting foggy now with all the back and forth.
Antwan
November 29th, 2009
9:54 pm
I’m tired of all this negative noise being put out by the Norwood camp about Kasim Reed. Atlanta needs black mayor and Kasim is the best candidate. Norwood’s people need to pack it up—the election is over!!!
IdaHere
November 30th, 2009
12:26 am
What a great debate! If anyone was undecided about who is best qualified to lead our great city, the debate certainly showed that Kasim Reed is well prepared, and ready to lead our city forward! It was definitely clear that when the question was asked of Mary Norwood as to who were the “some” she claims are dividing the city and what she considered divisive, she could not come up with one (1) answer! She owes the citizens of Atlanta an apology for her unfounded accusations and innuendos.
Hats off to Kasim’s record of achievements for the City of Atlanta during his years as an elected State Representative and State Senator! Hats off to Kasim for the great support he has from his colleagues on the State level and from the City Council. Hats off to Kasim Reed for the support from a former Governor, Mayors, Civil Rights Leaders, Preachers, Educators, Public Safety, etc. I am convinced that they all cannot be wrong! Hats off for your Bipartisan support!
It was great to witness the Debate Parties all over the city! They looked like the United Nations: Blacks Whites, Asians, Latinos, Hispanics, Jewish, Catholics, Protestants, teens, youth, senior citizens, gays, straights, preachers, teachers, rich, poor, educated, illerates, and everyone else, all gathered for fun, fellowship and a healthy discussion of the issues facing “a city too busy to hate.”
It is great to be among people who can discuss issues, hear from all sides and arrive at consensus!
It is interesting to note all of the ideas that came forth to continue a hand-up for those who expressed a desire to improve their lot and make a contribution to the betterment of themselves as well as our city! Hats off to the college students for the great work they are doing with tutoring the youth, and volunteering for teaching reading!
Kasim,you did it again. It is so exhilerating to be among those who are for results, not just talk! We are pleased that you have come forth, at such a time as this, to offer your leadership to Atlanta. We look forward to your leadership and our followership for we all have a stake in making Atlanta a better place for all.
Congratulations to the Reed Campaign staff, friends, co-workers who have run a top-notch campaign. Your efforts will not be in vain!
Blessings!
Jamone
November 30th, 2009
6:47 am
Kasim–clearly the best candidate! The African-American community must come out in force and elect Kasim!!!!
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Will
November 30th, 2009
5:37 pm
“Atlanta is a black city and needs a black mayor”. Spoken like a true racist. The U.S. is 72% white, does that mean it needs a white president? Norwood would make a find mayor. Reed would make a good mayor. Blacks are showing their “true colors” in this election. It is very sad.
Jamesbrennandoyle
November 30th, 2009
11:50 pm
MARY NORWOOD FOR MAYOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JOHN ODD OWL
December 1st, 2009
1:04 am
If Mary Norwood didn’t speak, the voters could only assume that she doesn’t understand the issues and don’t have any leadership qualities… Bus as soon as mary Norwood open her mouth, she erase all doubt…