On whether all Republicans should look like Georgia Republicans

If you’ve been paying attention, you know that that special election to fill an upstate New York congressional seat has prompted a full-scale schism between the GOP base and big-tent Republicans.

Newt Gingrich and national party regulars are backing Dede Scozzafava, a veteran state assemblywoman handpicked by the local GOP. Scozzafava backs abortion rights and gay marriage – it’s that kind of district.

Sarah Palin and Tim Pawlenty – both presumptive 2012 contenders – are backing a third-party, alternative candidate, Doug Hoffman. As has Dick Armey. Erick Erickson of RedState.com, the Macon-based web site that concentrates on rallying hardcores, has also declared the 23rd District race a hill to die on.

A few minutes ago, Erickson sent out this paragraph from the Los Angeles Times that both acknowledges his presence in the conflict, and sums up the Republican identity crisis very nicely:

“Her positions on a lot of issues are reflective of the electorate here,” said Matt Burns, a Scozzafava spokesman. “If the idea is that every Republican that runs for office needs [to be] someone who fits in Georgia, then it’s going to be very, very difficult for Republicans to gain a majority in the House of Representatives.”

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Krooked Kasim

October 27th, 2009
4:31 pm

DW

October 27th, 2009
4:31 pm

The war for the GOP has begun…

The Snark

October 27th, 2009
4:34 pm

Should all Republicans look like Georgia Republicans? Only if they want to be a minority party forever.

Tea 4 2

October 27th, 2009
5:13 pm

One Republican aide recently forwarded a copy of one of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell’s floor speeches with a passage excoriating deficit spending highlighted. The point was that the Kentucky Republican preaches but doesn’t always practice.

But there are signs that the Republican political winds within the clubby Senate have shifted.

“I’m fresh off a very tough election, and the No. 1 issue was the fact that we’re spending way too much money in Washington,” said Sen. Saxby Chambliss, a Georgia Republican who was forced into a runoff before winning reelection to a second term in 2008.

Chambliss added his voice to those of Coburn and Thune at the Steering Committee session, although he characterized his anti-spending sentiments as more general than Coburn’s

Rusty

October 27th, 2009
5:21 pm

i dont care about the new york race. but what caught my attention was sam nunn endorsing ken hodges for georgia state attorney. i saw this on a blog down in south georgia which i never heard of (peanut politics) this endorsement is huge for hodges. teilhet might as well go for lt. governor

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

October 27th, 2009
5:47 pm

Hodges is corrupt. Check out “Do No Harm,” a documentary revealing his misuse of his office in an attempt to silence critics of Big Medicine in his area. If Nunn knows of Hodges’ evil it just another feather in the cap of Nunn’s membership in the false elite trying to destroy the American People on behalf of fascist plutocracy. Think Sam Nunn doesn’t have internet or doesn’t know how to download a free copy of the proof that Bush and Cheney committed 9/11? http://files.meetup.com/275335/The%20New%20Pearl%20Harbor.pdf

No patriot Nunn, and no Georgian.

Bill White

October 27th, 2009
5:51 pm

I have my own test when it comes to supporting candidates. I always ask if he leads a Christ-centered existence. If not, then I know he isn’t worthy of being a leader much less a human being. We need to have strong leaders in everything from dogcatcher to city council to Congress + the president. They all need to be committed to God or Christ. If so, then I know that he will stand up to those who wish to destroy our nation. Hussein Nobama and all those who support him are tearing at the nation’s fabric. This fabric will be repaired when Lil Hussein’s Socialistic health care fails and he loses Congress. Next, he’ll lose the presidency through impeachment or a major loss to Mike Huckabee, Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney or even that Pawlenty guy. The point is, this nation’s fascination with this celebrity Kenyan, is already fading thank God! I’m optimistic that we will return to an era of loving the Lord Almighty, low taxes, market-based health care, a soaring economy whereby each man has a decent job and environmentalism dies. The GOP has a bright future that is just getting warmed up. We will see more good men like your John Oxendine and Eric Johnson get leadership posts where they will make a difference. -God Bless, Bill Orvis White

Cutty

October 27th, 2009
6:05 pm

Please make all republicans in the mold of Bill White. They’ll be in the minority forever!

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

October 27th, 2009
6:22 pm

thebob.bob

October 27th, 2009
6:28 pm

Aren’t Republicans the ones who complain about outsiders getting involved in local decision making? About ‘one size fits all” government? The imposition of “fundamental” orthodoxy on the will of the local population sounds an awful lot like the extreme religious extremists we’re fighting in two wars.

Keep it up! You’ve already shown America that, being ideologically opposed to Government, you’re unable to govern. Bring in Sarah P. and show us how to lose elections.

As Bill White says above. . If someone isn’t leading a “Christ-centered existence .. then I know he isn’t worthy of being …. a human being.” Talk about sicko religious fanatics!!

cletus T Rockafella

October 27th, 2009
6:33 pm

Well, here we go again. will jones, the resident communist who despises America, hates capitalism, loves extreme socialists (i.e. obama), attempts to weigh in on an important issue. While the alcoholic jones hates republicans, I pity them. They have been on the downward slope forever and a day. It should be clear (and in most cases, it isn’t) to those who attempt to actually THINK that neither the democratic or republican party care about America, will do anything good for America, and are merely looking to garner power, influence and money. Our so-called leaders are now trash & the lowest form of garbage we have facing us. These are the people who wish to control our lives, steal our (my) money, our time, our assets, our hopes and our dreams, merely to satisfy the obsessive desire to retain their positions, their influence, and pick up more $$$ and live quite well at our expense. the will jones/bill whites and the other morons of the world support this. I do not. Republicans are totally out of touch with America, as are the democrats, so we need a new system, and probably a new party. We either adhere to the principles of the Constitution & Bill of Rights, or we destroy them. No middle ground. Make your choice and live with it.

jconservative

October 27th, 2009
6:38 pm

“They all need to be committed to God or Christ”

Is it OK to be committed to one & not the other?

Every Islamic terrorist on the planet is committed to God.

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

October 27th, 2009
6:38 pm

What sicko, recovering alcoholics like Bill White fail to understand is that there is only One G-d, the Creator of the Universe, and America’s Founders were in Covenant with That Infinite Power when they established the United States of America, and bequeathed The Creed to their heirs: the sovereign American People – E Pluribus Unum; in the New SECULAR order – Novus Ordo Seclorem; by only Annuit Coeptis.

Wrap your mind around the Truth, Anti-Christ fascists, or get out of Our Country.

Plenty of Tories needed to be burned out or hanged that America be won the first time.

What is past is prologue.

FultonRighty

October 27th, 2009
7:03 pm

Georgia Republicans who hold to the platform have been winning; Saxby struggled because he had made some very “moderate” moves on immigration, spending, and he won’t talk about social conservative issues clearly. True conservative Republicans have given the electorate here an alternative to the liberals. The RINO’s don’t mobilize or motivate anyone because they don’t.

BeReal

October 27th, 2009
7:04 pm

Will Jones sounds like one of those bumbling drunks on the corner in the morning as your walking from the parking deck to work. The kind that spew that wasteful and sometimes funny, incoherent string of words. He’s like the blind prophet of idiots. A fat, over weight self proclaimed “Reverend” like that racist Lowery.

As far as “looking” like a Republican… I don’t know why it would matter. The people are wanting change. We put a man who’s never done anything, and hasn’t done anything in, on the premise of change and all we are left with is hope that he doesn’t destroy any more. He rides on the smoke of the flames left by the previous administration and doesn’t feel compelled to fix anything so as long as his stupid followers feel that he’s doing his best, with what he has.

So when the “change” that everyone supported so much, is now switched with the (R), instead of the (D), or even replaces an (I) with the (D).. People want to cry.

Virginia will have a Republican for Governor.. and Chris Christies will win New Jersey..

People are tired of being robbed by our elected officials, and then told we don’t give enough, or deserve to have what we have. It goes beyond the name, look at Snow.. She’s a bat, and she’s nothing more than a RINO.

BeReal

October 27th, 2009
7:22 pm

And Will Jones.. I’m sure your real happy your beloved home state alma mater will have a republican in the main house. Maybe it’ll help you pass the time blogging, while you live in your drug induced coma hoping that Obama leaves enough in your piggy bank to collect your SS.

cletus T Rockafella

October 27th, 2009
7:25 pm

BeReal, you hit the nail on the head with will jones. He hates America, he hates capitalism, he has probably never worked a day in his life. Yet, he, like the bill whites, are all the same problem we have had for ages – they don’t want change for the better, or to adhere to the Constitution & Bill of Rights. They want their own ’status quo’. The will jones/bill whites of the world need to be sentenced to an island where they can destroy each other. Regarding joseph lowery, he has never done anything positive for Atlanta. He is a devout racist and communist. If it were not for America, he would be in jail awaiting execution for his views, but our country allows his brand of extremism. The garbage politicians who hold office today should be working 60-70 hours per week for $0 for their entire term. They don’t need the money and if they do, they should resign & get a real job. Simply look at borders, reed, purdue, isakson, chambliss and many others. All of them should be working for no salary UNTIL they can PROVE they can solve problems and produce results. If they can’t, well, we have plenty of jails for them.

BeReal

October 27th, 2009
7:42 pm

I don’t care what our elected officials make. It’s a free country, and you free to make as much, or as little as you chose to do so. Good work, gets rewarded. The problem is, people feel the need to tell others how much they should and shouldn’t have.

Politicians need to have REAL fear of being jobless. They need to know that not supporting your voting base, will simply means your gone. If they don’t cut it after 1 year, toss them. If they are job less, then maybe they’ll work harder, or find another profession. Perhaps they can sit in their underwear with Will Jones, and blog all day.

It’s not entirely the elected officials fault. You can’t pass on the stupidity of the voters, on the candidates as a whole.. You will always have people who will vote party line only. You will have people who vote based off of false promises, who are ignorant enough to believe it. You will always have those who vote based off of simple reasons. People vote based off skin color, sex, and just because they hate “the other” candidate.

And Lowery is a racist. He’s a disgrace to this city, and it’s shameful that the Obama administration holds him in such a bright light, as it only shows the racism and bigotry in our current administration. That wasn’t the change we voted for, when he promised something different.

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

October 27th, 2009
9:24 pm

Civilization pivots on urban culture. Thank G-d none of you fascists and racists are Atlantans.

There’s hope for America!

David

October 27th, 2009
9:26 pm

Scozzafava should be careful about the ‘Georgia republican’ remark. New Gingrich, probably the most prominent republican backing her was a Georgia republican wasn’t he? :)

tony sacco

October 27th, 2009
11:44 pm

agree wth DW

tony sacco

October 27th, 2009
11:52 pm

All Republicans should be like Sarah Palin, a bible in one hand and a rifle in the other too clean up America that stink with Dem’s.

Bill White

October 28th, 2009
12:10 am

Will Jones hates America and I love it. I’m on a crusade to save it. Just like every human on this planet, I love him, but hate his thoughts and how he hates so much. It’s disturbing how he hates achievers like the Rockefellers, Newt Gingrich and The Pope. They’re beautiful people who have been on a crusade to better the world through bold action. What does Will worship? Godlessness, Communism, Socialism, Taxism, Collectivism and most of all, hate for those who have expanded the world economy. Will and his hateful ilk can be saved through a strong belief in Christ. We need leaders like Ronald Reagan who inspired a nation to become self-reliant and God-fearing. His successor GW Bush inspired a culture of life. Statistics show that when GW was in power, the nation respected life. We need yo return to that so that people like Will Jones cease + desist their hate for the beautiful Roman way of thinking. It’s that thinking that has saved the USA. I fear for our future with this phony installed president who is doing radical things to us. Like I wrote before, I love everyone and wish to educate the world that a strong faith in God will save everything. God Bless, BOW

Aaron Burr V Mexico

October 28th, 2009
1:43 am

“We’ve put a man who has never done anything in the white house”

You mean George W. Bush? That guy? He was a failed governor, a failed team owner and a failed every other thing you can think of and you still love the guy.

Only Republicans are stupid enough to think we’re going to forget Bush. And only Democrats are stupid enough to be afraid to use him in the next election.

But there are plenty of independent groups now to ask the simple question….

“Got a Republican friend?”

“Ask them if they still think we did the right thing going into Iraq.”

“Ask them if they still think Sarah Palin was a good choice.”

“Ask them who they’re going to vote for.”

“Ask yourself if you want to vote with someone who thinks Sarah Palin is a good choice for a leader.”

The party hasn’t changed. And all it will take is showing people that.

The people of Virginia are morons, and I’m going to spend the next four years laughing at them when they elect McDonnel.

Aaron Burr V Mexico

October 28th, 2009
1:45 am

“Statistics show that when Bush was in power, he created a culture that respected life”

Would that be Rasmussen, FOX or Magical Market Fairy statistics?

Would that be like all those other statistics you ignore like the fact that only 20% of the populace identifies themselves as Republicans right now?

The REAL GodHatesTrash, Superstar

October 28th, 2009
5:39 am

Georgia – euphemism for retarded.

As in = “What are you – effing Georgia?”

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

October 28th, 2009
7:21 am

Who should Americans believe: a Roman Catholic plumber in Hattiesburg, Mississippi (what do you bet he’s worked up a “real” Southern accent, too), whose alcoholism, from which he is supposedly in recovery, was prompted by a priest’s having molested him, yet thinks the institution which for thousands of years promoted the pedophilia which led to his molestation should be running America; or the Author of the American Declaration of Independence, thereby the Founder of the United States of America, and a confirmed Prophet of the One Creator G-d?

To Samuel Kercheval
Monticello, January 19, 1810
SIR, — Yours of the 7th instant has been duly received, with the pamphlet inclosed, for which I return you my thanks. Nothing can be more exactly and seriously true than what is there stated; that but a short time elapsed after the death of the great reformer of the Jewish religion, before his principles were departed from by those who professed to be his special servants, and perverted into an engine for enslaving mankind, and aggrandising their oppressors in Church and State; that the purest system of morals ever before preached to man, has been adulterated and sophisticated by artificial constructions, into a mere contrivance to filch wealth and power to themselves; that rational men not being able to swallow their impious heresies, in order to force them down their throats, they raise the hue and cry of infidelity, while themselves are the greatest obstacles to the advancement of the real doctrines of Jesus, and do in fact constitute the real Anti-Christ.

America? Or, a sectarian faction of closet-queens and draft-dodgers worshipping Mammon, who believe “the real Anti-Christ” and its American “Fifth Column,” led by those assassinated Meriwether Lewis and Lincoln, who created Big Oil on murder and arson, financed the rise of Hitler and the Holocaust from the U.S. RC collection plate, killed Kennedy and King to send us to die for the pope in Vietnam, and cheated James Guckert’s lover into the WH to commit 9/11 is what we should place over the Constitution and the sovereign People?

I think we’ll go with AMERICA and The Creed, by G-d.

Get help, you slavering morons, traitors, and perverts…somewhere else.

Brad Steel

October 28th, 2009
9:05 am

This is the type of idiotic move that everyone should expect from a certifiable narcissistic dunce like Palin.

Letting Palin-republican dunces bifricate the party will insure republican irrelevance. Regardless of party affiliation, as stupid, weak and irrelevant republican party is bad for the country.

Brad Steel

October 28th, 2009
9:14 am

there is no legitimate reason for censoring my comment.

Rarl Kove

October 28th, 2009
10:57 am

Republicans need to be conservative. Period. We nominated a moderate last time look what happened to us. We get skunked when we run meeley-mouthed namby pamby middle of the road moderates/libs. The libs should stick with the Democrat Party. The libs fear a strong conservative alternative to Obama and his lackeys. Nice try, Jumbo G.

Base

October 28th, 2009
1:50 pm

Georgia Repubs are idiots.Look at unemployment,transportation,water,state budget.They don’t have a clue what to do but just say no.

Will Jones is the affirmative action retard poster of the universe

October 28th, 2009
2:29 pm

Will Jones is still crazy. Will Jones is a Democrat.

Yankee in Gooberville

October 28th, 2009
5:13 pm

As having moved to this miserable state from upstate NY, I can tell you they are *livid* about the meddling in their local election. Maybe you don’t understand how the rest of the country is, but that’s why the GOP and ‘Conservatives’ (who are anything but conservative, rather ‘conservo-fascists’) have been dwindling in numbers in the Northeast and West. Marginal idiots that are looked at like a bunch of snake-handling fundies speaking in tongues. We in NY are used to corrupt politicians, not the morally preachy corrupt ones that infect the south.

Bill White

October 28th, 2009
5:53 pm

When one leads a Christ-centered existence, he’s morally bound to make decisions based on what’s right + wrong. It’s that simple. Now I love GW Bush. He led with a spirit of stopping terrorists before they strike. Unfortunately, he made several errors by caving into a far left Congress on several issues including the prescription benefit. I love GW, but he spent like a drunken cowboy. The GOP needs to get back in power, cut or eliminate taxes and spending, impose prayer in school, illegalize abortion, build more privatized jails, dissolve failing schools and city governments.

Mark Anderson

October 28th, 2009
9:26 pm

Mr. White, you profess to be a man of god, and yet you lie. Obama is an American not a Kenyan. George W. was president when the terrorists destroyed the twin towers and the pentagon, so much for stopping terrorists before they strike. Republicans like you accused President Clinton of bombing the Taliban to defuse his adultery, could be, but at least he was right about them. George W. ignored all the warnings about the real terrorists and blew it. He only reacted afterwards, BEFORE the attack he ignored them.

confederated southern GOP is still for the rich slave owners in 2009 black and white and brown

October 29th, 2009
9:36 am

should the GOP look like Georgia GOP? every thing in Georgia is down jobs, no new growth, they are small mind never pro ative. Georgia GOp mission statement is only no.
I am a Democrat but we need both party to work for the people and that is just not happen in Washington nor Georgia. The GOp has way to many conservative for there on good that why they will be a party of only the south unless hearts change. and right now the holy spirit has it work cut out for it.
if you would do unto other as you want done unto you not as what the company want. It is time to help the small guy and this in the end will help the rich guy! but not in Georgia to much hate on all sides!! thanks for the rain but we need holy water to make a change!!

George

November 4th, 2009
2:52 pm

Too many southern whites interfering in the affairs of New York and the North east. That is why the GOP lost yesterday. If we let them, the GOP led by southern whites will take over America and replace the American flag with the confederate flag! I will accept the rights of the white southerners to fly the confederate flag and blacks to use it to carry garbage..but will fight tooth and nail if the southerners bring their garbage up here.

George

November 4th, 2009
2:56 pm

“When one leads a Christ-centered existence, he’s morally bound to make decisions based on what’s right + wrong. It’s that simple.”

eg. Mark Sanford and David Vitter and of course the thrice divorced Newt Gingrich.

“Now I love GW Bush. He led with a spirit of stopping terrorists before they strike. Unfortunately, he made several errors by caving into a far left Congress on several issues including the prescription benefit. I love GW, but he spent like a drunken cowboy. The GOP needs to get back in power, cut or eliminate taxes and spending, impose prayer in school, illegalize abortion, build more privatized jails, dissolve failing schools and city governments.”

…and of course turn America into a communist gulag, which is what the commies like you want! And while they are at it philander like Mark Sanford or run after prostitutes like David Vitter while all the time professing Christianity. Typical southern whites in the GOP!