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	<title>Comments on: David Johnson and a troubled Strategic Vision promise crosstabs with every poll</title>
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		<title>By: Two Georgia pollsters fare poorly in nationwide ranking &#124; Political Insider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Two Georgia pollsters fare poorly in nationwide ranking &#124; Political Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;for extreme misconduct; substantial likelihood that polls were fabricated.&#8221; See the background here. Dave Johnson, the CEO of Strategic Vision, has denied wrongdoing, but has severely cut back his [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;for extreme misconduct; substantial likelihood that polls were fabricated.&#8221; See the background here. Dave Johnson, the CEO of Strategic Vision, has denied wrongdoing, but has severely cut back his [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Strategic Vision Polling Controversy Raises Questions of Disclosure - The Numbers Guy - WSJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strategic Vision Polling Controversy Raises Questions of Disclosure - The Numbers Guy - WSJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 04:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And the firm, though it didn&#8217;t respond to Wall Street Journal requests for comment, has defended its work in comments to other publications. &#8220;I stand by our work,&#8221; Mr. Johnson told [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And the firm, though it didn&#8217;t respond to Wall Street Journal requests for comment, has defended its work in comments to other publications. &#8220;I stand by our work,&#8221; Mr. Johnson told [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JohnJay60</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnJay60</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nate from fivethirtyeight.com showed in the 2008 elections that polls, IN AGGREGATE, were highly predictive of the outcomes.  What it also showed was that certain pollsters consistently rate one party higher than another.  This consistency of biase (think Rasmussen) is mathematically provable.

The StrategicVision case is a separate instance, where Mr. Silver lays out a clear case where the results obtained by SV are so improbable as to be nearly impossible to imagine taking place in a true poll.

I would ask readers of these comments to distinguish between &quot;precision&quot; (as in Rasmussen being consistently higher on Republican candidates than others) and &quot;accuracy&quot; (as in Rasmussen being inaccurate, though consistent) and add a third category &quot;fraudulent&quot; (as in Strategic Vision releasing results that require amazing faith in highly improbable results).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nate from fivethirtyeight.com showed in the 2008 elections that polls, IN AGGREGATE, were highly predictive of the outcomes.  What it also showed was that certain pollsters consistently rate one party higher than another.  This consistency of biase (think Rasmussen) is mathematically provable.</p>
<p>The StrategicVision case is a separate instance, where Mr. Silver lays out a clear case where the results obtained by SV are so improbable as to be nearly impossible to imagine taking place in a true poll.</p>
<p>I would ask readers of these comments to distinguish between &#8220;precision&#8221; (as in Rasmussen being consistently higher on Republican candidates than others) and &#8220;accuracy&#8221; (as in Rasmussen being inaccurate, though consistent) and add a third category &#8220;fraudulent&#8221; (as in Strategic Vision releasing results that require amazing faith in highly improbable results).</p>
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		<title>By: xoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>xoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would clear the air, of course,would be to release the cross tabs from past polls --- if any really exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would clear the air, of course,would be to release the cross tabs from past polls &#8212; if any really exist.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enter your poll numbers here.

Thank you Mr. Galloway for posting this and linking to Mr. Silver&#039;s site.

Great comment jconservative.  Although, I think you are a little off.

We will start doing what we should have been doing but don&#039;t need to do because we never did anything wrong even though we refuse to prove otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enter your poll numbers here.</p>
<p>Thank you Mr. Galloway for posting this and linking to Mr. Silver&#8217;s site.</p>
<p>Great comment jconservative.  Although, I think you are a little off.</p>
<p>We will start doing what we should have been doing but don&#8217;t need to do because we never did anything wrong even though we refuse to prove otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: GoOx</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoOx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave Johnson is an awesome pollster.  He has my man Ox in the lead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Johnson is an awesome pollster.  He has my man Ox in the lead.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Political Polls have two primary purposes. 
First they are used by left-wing and right-wing media in their efforts to influence public opinion (CNN, FOX, USAToday, etc.)
Second they are used by politicians to determine what, if any, position they should take on an issue.
It is not just the choosing whom to poll (cross-tabs), it is also the way questions are worded and the answer options provided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Political Polls have two primary purposes.<br />
First they are used by left-wing and right-wing media in their efforts to influence public opinion (CNN, FOX, USAToday, etc.)<br />
Second they are used by politicians to determine what, if any, position they should take on an issue.<br />
It is not just the choosing whom to poll (cross-tabs), it is also the way questions are worded and the answer options provided.</p>
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		<title>By: Bert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt Towery and his WSB-TV/Insider Advantage poll are lies, lies and damned lies. Even though Towery makes his crosstabs available, he pulls them directly out of his butt.

WSB-TV Channel 2, through its alliance with Towery, is proving itself to be more and more like the right wing nuts at Fox news.

It&#039;s time to begin thinking about organizing a boycott of Channel 2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt Towery and his WSB-TV/Insider Advantage poll are lies, lies and damned lies. Even though Towery makes his crosstabs available, he pulls them directly out of his butt.</p>
<p>WSB-TV Channel 2, through its alliance with Towery, is proving itself to be more and more like the right wing nuts at Fox news.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to begin thinking about organizing a boycott of Channel 2.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a milktoast article!! You call this journalism? Galloway didn&#039;tprobe Johnson on ANY of his answers. Also, he failed to mention that Johnson promised cross tabs 3 times before in his post today. I think he may be too dumb to actually understand the criticism/issue at hand here. He takes everything Johnson says at face value, which is why the situation arose in the first place!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a milktoast article!! You call this journalism? Galloway didn&#8217;tprobe Johnson on ANY of his answers. Also, he failed to mention that Johnson promised cross tabs 3 times before in his post today. I think he may be too dumb to actually understand the criticism/issue at hand here. He takes everything Johnson says at face value, which is why the situation arose in the first place!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Mathews is covered in his own spittle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Mathews is covered in his own spittle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am eagerly awaiting the story in the NYTIMES/CBS poll that regularly poll twice as many number of democrat voters as republican.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am eagerly awaiting the story in the NYTIMES/CBS poll that regularly poll twice as many number of democrat voters as republican.</p>
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