‘You lie!’ doesn’t go over well with voters in Joe Wilson’s S.C. district

In survey numbers just released, Public Policy Polling of North Carolina says U.S. Rep. Joe Wilson’s two-word eruption _ “You lie!” _ during President Barack Obama’s health care speech on Wednesday has cost him dearly back home.

Wilson now trails Democratic challenger Rob Miller by 44 to 43 percent. Wilson defeated Miller with 54 percent of the vote in 2008.

“In a matter of seconds, Joe Wilson turned himself from a safe incumbent into one of the most vulnerable Republicans in the country for 2010,” said Dean Debnam, President of Public Policy Polling. The Miller campaign says it has raised hundreds of thousands of dollars in the last 36 hours.

Meanwhile, the New York Times reports this:

House Democrats intend to purse a formal resolution chastising Representative Joe Wilson for his outburst against President Barack Obama during Wednesday’s Congressional address unless the South Carolina Republican apologizes on the floor…

House rules and precedents provide substantial guidance on how a House member can and cannot refer to the president while speaking on the floor and the guidelines state that it has been found impermissible to call the president a liar.

But back to that PPP poll. Here are the basics: 747 voters were contacted on Sept. 10 and today. Margin of error is +/-3.6%.

According to PPP:

_ 62 percent of voters in Wilson’s Second District say they disapprove of Wilson’s actions, while just 29 percent approve;

_ Pointedly, it is Wilson’s behavior that sparked objections. The poll indicated that 42 percent concede that Obama could very well be lying. Another 46 percent believe the president was telling the truth.

_ Overall, 49 percent of voters said Wednesday’s incident made them less likely to vote for Wilson in the future while 35 percent said it made them more likely to do so.

_ Obama’s approval rating is 50 percent in the district, which PPP declares is pretty good _ given that he lost the district by 9 points in November. Gov. Mark Sanford’s approval rating is 31 percent _ and 51 percent think he should resign.

Those with a good grasp of the demographics say that Wilson’s Second District in many ways ressembles U.S. Rep. Jim Marshall’s Eighth District in Georgia:

_ In Marshall’s district, 33 percent of registered voters are African-American; in Wilson’s 29 percent of registered voters are “nonwhite.”

_ Marshall’s current district in 2004 voted 61 percent for Bush, while Wilson’s gave Bush 60 percent of the vote.

_ Marshall’s district voted 56 percent for McCain last fall, while Wilson’s voted went 54 percent for McCain.

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102 comments Add your comment

Keith

September 11th, 2009
2:45 pm

Joe Wilson for president!!!

Charlie

September 11th, 2009
3:14 pm

Joe Wilson is no statesman. He lacks the maturity and judgment for the position, as demonstrated by his outburst during the President’s speech. I mean… a U.S. Congressman yells out “You lie” to the President of the United States when he’s addressing a joint session of Congress and the entire country on TV? What an idiot. Even when Bush was feeding us the most obvious of b.s., nobody had the lack of control or boorish behavior to do such a thing. Wilson is a disgrace to Congress and an embarassment to this country and his constituents.

In fact, the way Republicans behaved poorly in general, with their catcalls during the speech. I swear… the elected leaders of that party are like school children. No wonder their party is losing voters like crazy.

When are they going to elect some adults to do the real work that needs to get done?

Jim

September 11th, 2009
3:21 pm

Thank you, Joe Wilson, for standing up for the truth!

Lucas

September 11th, 2009
3:30 pm

Well, at least once they boot him out, he’ll have a healthy audience for any books or radio shows he’d like to do. His opponent, Miller, is a Marine and war veteran, and now has him out-monied 3:2. The guy sounds like a contender to me.

Rob

September 11th, 2009
3:36 pm

I have never sent a politician money before, but I have already given Wilson 20$. Not a lot, and I am not even in his district, but I was glad to see someone call the emperor on having no clothes.

I hope Wilson uses this to say, “Yeah, I called him a liar, and if he keeps lying, I will call him one again.” I want more strong conservatives to quit being politically correct and stand up and speak for the majority.

NOBAMA!

Jennifer

September 11th, 2009
3:37 pm

I reside in Joe Wilson’s district and I while I have respected him and voted for him in the past, I will not be voting for him in any election in the future. I also do not believe for one second that this outburst was spontaneous. I’ve considered some to be liars in the past, but I’m certainly intelligent enough to restrain myself from yelling at them when I disagree.

It is disheartening that 35% of those polled said they would be more likely to vote for Wilson, but not surprising. That rebel yell, good ‘ole boy attitude is common around here. So is racism, unfortunately – this is the deep South. I love my State, I love the people here, but I’m also realistic about the attitudes that exist that lead to jack-asses like Joe Wilson getting re-elected.

Stephen

September 11th, 2009
3:39 pm

Joe Wilson is a very small person with limited vision. His anger and lack of insight bring shame to the congress and especially the people who have elected him. You may agree with his point of few but if you agree with his behavior you do not respect the democracy that our country stands for.

Jenn

September 11th, 2009
3:39 pm

Im a Libertarian/Paleoconservative in SC and although I haven’t supported him on much, I support Joe Wilson on this! In fact I may just have to go down to his office and shake his hand if he is available. We need MORE like Wilson who will speak out against the degradation of the Constitution!

Scarecrow

September 11th, 2009
3:40 pm

Keith, you are stupid and DUMB!!!!

Rush

September 11th, 2009
3:41 pm

Good Boy Joe…now Sit! Good Doogie.

kari

September 11th, 2009
3:42 pm

Joe Wilson is a true patriot whose to the point, passionate, uninhibited gut response to Obama’s obvious lies spoke for millions of Americans who are both furious and fearful of the agenda of Obama and his left wing radical colleagues that are running our country. God Bless him, and I hope he gets the support he needs to continue to fight for our freedom and liberty as our country is in great peril. Obama thinks with a wink and a smile that he can fool us into a socialistic nightmare. Joe’s shout out was a battle cry for many of us. I will do what I can to support him as real leadership is few and far between.
As for the poster who claims that the Republicans are not adults for catcalling during his speech, I say bring it on! Democrats only think it is their right to misbehave when things don’t go their way. They are not used to conservatives standing up for their beliefs, but they are in for a big surprise. The sleeping giant has been awakened.

Rush

September 11th, 2009
3:42 pm

Hey Jenn,

WTF are you talking about? Have you bothered to even read the Constitution lately, if ever?

Why do you hate America Jenn?

Gail Joshua

September 11th, 2009
3:43 pm

I agree with Charlie! Even when Bush was feeding us the most obvious of b.s., nobody did such a thing. It’s called “Respect.” Wilson is a disgrace to Congress and an embarassment to this country.

Is it okay for the elected leaders of his party to act like school children? Charlie, you are right. They should elect adults to do the work that needs to get done!

Lynn

September 11th, 2009
3:43 pm

I don’t believe the report by Jim Galloway. I believe most American’s agree that B.O. is not being honest with the American people. Also, what is happening to free speach? Congressman Wilson was just saying what he finds to be true, what a lot of American people who are paying attention are finding to be true. Congressman Wilson, I agree with you and as a taxpaying citizen of this country, I feel you have a right to your opinion and the democrats that want to take that away from you, they will be voted out of office in the near future anyway. I have faith in the American people.

J Spencer

September 11th, 2009
3:46 pm

Joe Wilson brings great shame to Congress, to the GOP and to the great state of South Carolina, a state known for its hospitality and courtesy. Those that support his ignorant racist outbursts are just as shameful and just as ignorant! Anyone can easily read the section of the new health care bill, HR3200 passed by the House of Representatives and quickly find in Section 246 entitled “NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS” that this bill DOES NOT COVER EXPENSES FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS:

It reads, and I quote: “NOthing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments or affordability credits…on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States…”

Too bad the stupid can’t do some basic research before they shoot off their big mouths. And it’s too bad there’s not an I.Q. test required to run for Congress, as I am sure Mr. Wilson wouldn’t have passed that hurdle.

Paul

September 11th, 2009
3:48 pm

I think that is just your opinion sir! South Carolina should be proud giveing the Dems what they dish out – remember President George Bush’s 2005 State of the Union address? I am from Georgia, but sending a contribution to Mr. Wilson.

Gary C. Hardin, San Diego, Ca.

September 11th, 2009
3:48 pm

Personally I’m glad Joe Wilson had the courage to speak out. Why are the American people following this President like blind mice. He does lie, he is not be truthful with us.

Jenn

September 11th, 2009
3:49 pm

I would have to disagree with Stephen. The US is NOT a democracy(Rule by MOB). It is a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC(Rule by LAW). Get it right sir!

Jenn

September 11th, 2009
3:53 pm

Rush have YOU ever read the constitution? Apparently NOT. Keep drinking the Koolaid!! Everything is going to be alright. No worries!

Jennifer

September 11th, 2009
3:55 pm

Lots of conservative paranoia. I think it can be said that conservatives equally follow their party line blindly. I did so before I educated myself and got an opinion. And speaking out can and should be done respectfully, regardless of your party.

Lynn

September 11th, 2009
4:00 pm

Jenn, YOU GO GIRL!! And Paul, you’re right-on too!! The liberals are always being rude, crude, obnoxious, idiots and then try to turn it around on the occasion we get fed-up with their crap and fight back. I refuse to let the liberal’s socilist pick for running this country take my freedoms away and I will back people like Joe Wilson anytime when they have the guts to stand up to anyone who tries to do that.

Jenn

September 11th, 2009
4:01 pm

J Spencer you obviously don’t understand the true rebellious nature of SC. Yes we are known for being courteous and hospitable. During the Civil War we shined our buttons and put on our best attire and even warned the Union when we were going to attack. However, we are still REBELS and historically have been the forerunners on standing up against big government and tyranny. Here we are 150 years later fighting the same GD war. Can you not see the parallels?? This is for keepsies this is no joke. This is about governmental slavery. Whos side are you really on? The line is being drawn. Time to wake up and figure out where you stand.

Teri

September 11th, 2009
4:02 pm

Don’t reside in NC but would love to give a donation to Mr. Miller’s campaign to unseat “Wrong Way Wilson”. Semper fi!

Phil from ID

September 11th, 2009
4:08 pm

Thank you Joe Wilson. Thank you for standing up to a the socialist president. The President has got these people hook, line and sinker. What more will people expect from Government? Free airline transportation? How about free running water, food,? Food and water is necessary to live, but it, like health care is also an INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY.

We are turning supply and demand upside down and throwing it out the window. It just doesn’t won’t work that way.

Jennifer

September 11th, 2009
4:08 pm

Hey! He’s not standing up.. he’s being rude, crude, and obnoxious. Don’t be hypocritical. If its wrong for the Democrats its wrong for the Republicans! What happened to being the better person and setting an example?

Yes, J Spencer, you don’t understand b/c you haven’t been indoctrinated with the same crap that keeps a flag up on our State House grounds that was intended to be flown for a year to commemorate those who died supporting the Confederacy. You clearly don’t understand the “heritage” that allows one to be a jerk to others to serve self. Oh, can’t you see that you’re on the wrong side? Stop reading and start shining your buttons!!

WANDA

September 11th, 2009
4:08 pm

I see the world is still full of hatred and racism. Most of you people would be outraged had a black senator disrespected a “White president. It is sad and alot of you call yourself Christians. Guess what Obama is here to stay. N

M M

September 11th, 2009
4:08 pm

Rule of Law?
There is a law against being in this country illegally. That law has not been enforced enforced. Does anyone believe any “provision to deny illegals” anything will be enforced?
The only way that Obama could be telling the truth is that he plans to legalize all the past, present and future illegals..and then being insto presto legal..they would have complete access to the health care which illegals have complete access to free health care anyway.
Joe was right.
Call your representative and Tell that person to personally Thank Joe..on your behalf!

Jenn

September 11th, 2009
4:09 pm

Jennifer, I don’t feel this is “conservative paranoia”. We are just not into slavery, and theft. Its that simple.

I believe Ayn Rand said it best – I swear, by my life and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.

Chris

September 11th, 2009
4:10 pm

Finally a man with sence in Washington. He couldnt sit still and listen to this Illuminati puppet go off on some tandem of how hes benefitting us, against our will. Boycott Obama

Lois

September 11th, 2009
4:11 pm

Gary you ask, “Why are the American people following this President like blind mice. He does lie, he is not be truthful with us.”

Do you remember that Bush guy that told us their were WMDs Iraq? I do believe that was a BIG FAT LIE! I didn’t really enjoy spending a year away from my family over that crap. Had we concentrated on Afghanistan and not chasing ghosts and settling scores for the Bushes, we might be done with that mess too.

sarah

September 11th, 2009
4:11 pm

charlie @ 3 14pm:
what joe wilson did may have been immature, but check your facts. “Even when Bush was feeding us the most obvious of b.s., nobody had the lack of control or boorish behavior to do such a thing.” FALSE. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBxmEGG71PM watch again.

“No wonder their party is losing voters like crazy.” i can almost guarantee you that the republicans will take control of congress in 2010 and the white house in 2012 if obama keeps going like this.

“When are they going to elect some adults to do the real work that needs to get done?” hmm like the democrats elected a real adult to do some real work? except he’s failing over and over because he has NO experience and NO idea what needs to be done. we need another REPUBLICAN like RONALD REAGAN to get us back on track.

kevin

September 11th, 2009
4:12 pm

Joe Wilson needs to resign….All these crazy conservatives get so bent out of shape listening to that Fox News Propaganda Machine…Hope you like Obama because you know he’s getting re-elected in 2012 since the Republicans have not a single candidate to field, they’re all to busy in Argentinian brothels!!…and thank God we have seen the last of Sarah Palin. She’ll be the answer to a trivia question in about 30 years, that is it!!:)

WANDA

September 11th, 2009
4:15 pm

As an American…I am tired of getting ripped off by big corporations. Insurance company, credit card companies, banks, etc.,,,,It is easy to be negative when you have not had to walk in alot of sick people shoes. Do you know what iit is like to be denied medical coverage. Or to get laid off, because you have Cancer and your new job insurance will not cover you because you hane an existing clause. Call President Obama what you like, however he is going after some issues in America…that needs to be stop. I work in the health care industry and people hate change, especially those who has benefited the most. Why don’t you talk to someone who is going through the very issues, that Obama is addressing. And after talking with someone who has Cancer or any other illness and see how they are treated and you still feel the same way. YOU ARE JUST HEARTLESS

Jenn

September 11th, 2009
4:18 pm

LOL Wanda, I would have LOVED to have seen someone do the same to Bush. I have no problem with people of color. Collectivists seem to however. I am no christian either. Obama may be here for another few years and thats IF the United States stays in business that long. But from what I see now, the corporate empire is failing, and when that happens, we will be fighting about much more than who gets health care!

Scott

September 11th, 2009
4:19 pm

…and racist.

Ronald Campbell

September 11th, 2009
4:21 pm

Finally, someone who did what the “reporters” will not do. Out The Liar.

john williams

September 11th, 2009
4:21 pm

Joe Wilson is from SC not NC
I will vote for Joe and so will most people.

bravoJOE

September 11th, 2009
4:22 pm

JOE I LIKE YOU! bravo for speaking the truth, it seems that conservative
momentum is finally building up, the Obama liberal chateau which lacked
foundation is finally starting to crumble, middle class Americans and
non-illegals (ie normal citizens) can’t be silenced any longer. Heated
healthcare debates are just a foretaste of how loud we will get if anyone
dares proposing ‘amnesty’ to illegals in 2010…

Gail Joshua

September 11th, 2009
4:24 pm

Lois said “Do you remember that Bush guy that told us their were WMDs Iraq? I do believe that was a BIG FAT LIE! I didn’t really enjoy spending a year away from my family over that crap. Had we concentrated on Afghanistan and not chasing ghosts and settling scores for the Bushes, we might be done with that mess too.” I watched the suggested You tube video. No, we were no where near as rude to Bush as wilson’s LONE voice was to our President! Wilson should apologize again!!! His first apology was insincere! Why ELSE wouldn’t he want to do it again?

Thad Kurek

September 11th, 2009
4:26 pm

It just amazes me that you would show such disrespact for the office of the President of the United States while he is visiting your House. But he is Black isn’t he? Only WASPs deserve respect.. Your are what this country is falling into. A deep dark pit of greed, arrogance, vanity and stupidity. Even though a illegal has no insurance will they will be seen in an ER? All those who have fallen to preserve the Constitution that all men are created equal. You are living proof that this is false being dumb as a rock.

Jenn

September 11th, 2009
4:30 pm

Wanda: What makes it someones RIGHT to take the fruits of another persons labor against their will, in order for them to benefit for themselves? Health care is a service, not a right. You have the right to go to the doctor, but you do not have the right to take a percentage out of my pocketbook because you feel entitled. Now, if I have the extra money I have been raised to DONATE that to a charity and I have. But, dont FORCE me into working for free 4-6 months out of the year just so someone that hasn’t done the same hard work as I have can live a little longer and continue to suck me dry. I am not a slave.

If you truly are a health care personnel, why dont YOU volunteer to work for free so the less fortunate can afford the visits?

Daniel

September 11th, 2009
4:30 pm

Joe Wilson has sealed his future in Washington with his idiotic outburst. He should also read the House version of the Bill which clearly states no Federal Funds can be used or spent on any undocumented individual. Obviously, Joe only gets his info from Beck, and Hannity. So, thanks to you Joe I had never heard of you out here in California until two days ago and I just donated 50 dollars to Rob Miller so that he may take over your seat in Washington and represent the good people of South Carolina the way they deserve to be represented.

patty

September 11th, 2009
4:31 pm

I can’t stand how Repugs throw around the ‘we speak for the majority line.’ Like Rob who posted “I want more strong conservatives to quit being politically correct and stand up and speak for the majority.” Stop acting as if in your little pea brain you “know” and can speak for the majority….YOU DO NOT nor does any other repug as evidenced by the last two elections YOU LOST, you are NOT in the majority, the only ones you speak for are the racist, obstructionist, close-minded, hicks in your red-neck of the woods.

Bridgette Wareham

September 11th, 2009
4:36 pm

Joe Wilson you are a disgrace, has I sat in my living room watching
The president spoke with content.it reminds me of the indecency
we have to go through with these republican.
If you were living in another country for example: Iraq
You would have shoes thrown @ u remeber that!

RetiredSoldier

September 11th, 2009
4:37 pm

The bill (HR3200) does say no funds will be spent, etc, on illegals. The problem is it is not enforceable. Republicans offered an amendment to require proof of legal residency and guess what. You got it, it was voted down by the Dems.

Bottom line, Pres. Obama KNOWS illegal’s will be in the govt health option and taxpayer will pay the bill.

Jenn

September 11th, 2009
4:40 pm

Patty you fail to understand it is just not “repugs” that feel this way. The US is not just Republicans and Democrats. You have Libertarians, Constitutionalists, Independents etc. A lot of them DO disagree with socialist medicine. So in a sense, a majority of the US is AGAINST it.

Jennifer

September 11th, 2009
4:40 pm

Sorry Jenn. Based on you’re Ayn Rand quote, you just won’t get it.

Jenn

September 11th, 2009
4:42 pm

Jennifer: Oh no I get it quite well. I have lived in Eastern Europe and have experienced Communism AND Socialism. YOU DONT GET IT. SLAVE.

Jennifer

September 11th, 2009
4:46 pm

Jenn: There is nothing wrong with being compassionate and socially responsible. It doesn’t have to be all or nothing. I only meant that your selfish attitude will clearly never allow you to understand sacrificing for others.

Gail

September 11th, 2009
4:50 pm

Wanda said try walking in sick people’s shoes. If you or your loved one get cancer, lose your job, and then your new job insurance won’t cover you, then call President Obama, because he cares about you too!!! The only people opposed to healtcare as a right are people who benefit most from it being a service! Meanwhile – no matter WHO goes to the emergency room – they get sick, they get treated. It is only human to do so!!!!! The fruits of another person’s labor? I’ll bet if it was YOUR life, you wouldn’t have a problem using “the fruits!”