Ouch.

According to the New York Times, a generation of American males are waiting on word from Atlanta:

Public health officials are considering promoting routine circumcision for all baby boys born in the United States to reduce the spread of H.I.V., the virus that causes AIDS.

The topic is a delicate one that has already generated controversy, even though a formal draft of the proposed recommendations, due out from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention by the end of the year, has yet to be released.

“Delicate,” indeed. Feel free to discuss, but keep it clean.

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158 comments Add your comment

Ghost

August 24th, 2009
12:33 pm

That would be a better excuse for it than saying that “God” requires it. (rolls eyes)

red

August 24th, 2009
12:39 pm

Cant believe this. I just hope that this does not become law or that hospitals put pressure on the parents.

Mike

August 24th, 2009
12:40 pm

Even if the statistics prove this would be beneficial, it touches on some religious practices… the CDC would never have the nads to go through with it.

GaNative

August 24th, 2009
12:43 pm

What’s wrong with being circumcised? It’s more sanitary and it looks better. I’ve heard women say they’d rather look at something that looks like it has on a fireman’s hat than something that looks like a worm.

jan

August 24th, 2009
12:44 pm

What does that have to do with HIV? So sad. Leave them alone.

Rhonda

August 24th, 2009
12:44 pm

COMPLETELY INSANE!

blueneutron

August 24th, 2009
12:45 pm

Circumcision is genital mutilation. We would never allow portions of the female genitalia to be removed for the sake of HIV prevention. The practice is barbaric and should require the consent of the person being circumcised.

Kim

August 24th, 2009
12:45 pm

There have been several published studies suggesting that circumcision helps prevent the spread of HIV and other STDs. As a parent, why wouldn’t you want to be informed when making that choice? Why wouldn’t you want doctors to recommend this procedure?

ean in nc

August 24th, 2009
12:46 pm

look at your new baby boy and just imagine going thru that procedure for no apparent reason other than some archaic religious ritual.

can’t, wouldn’t, didn’t do it.

Fred

August 24th, 2009
12:48 pm

I can understand the health benefits, but, our government, again, is stepping into private issues they should have no control over.

Issue your report and leave it at that.

Ted

August 24th, 2009
12:50 pm

Our government is completely out of control

fun

August 24th, 2009
12:53 pm

Don’t chop off over 25,000 nerve enedings. You were made that way. No religious or medical advise could make me do this to my child. Some could say-putting a child through that would keep them and their emotions in the lower chakras. Want on..still undecided. GO WITNESS a baby boy scream from the depths of his tiny soul and then honestly say he didn’t feel nothin. People amaze me and the control they give the medical and religious people in regards to their own creations. Children.

Thoreau

August 24th, 2009
12:59 pm

The reason circumscision (like many other things) was once given to be “the infallible word of God” is because the majority of otherwise ignorant people in the ancient world would never have believed in a medical/scientific rationale. Fact is, many otherwise bright-minds still have to be told “cleanliness is next to Godliness” or else they’d argue against good hygiene. Fear-based religion, scare-tactics and eternal damnation make very useful tools when seeking obedience and prostration from the flock.

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Pez Hilton

August 24th, 2009
1:00 pm

I am circumsized. I don’t remember it when it happened and I’m glad it did. I don’t have to roll my socks up to pee and it’s easy to clean. Bald is good.

MKDWinLGA

August 24th, 2009
1:00 pm

The decision should be left to the parents to make not the government!

Newborn Nurse

August 24th, 2009
1:02 pm

Having worked in a newborn nursery, I saw it all the time (The procedure was conducted in the nursery) Because of sanitary reasons, most people opted to have it done. I’ve never heard they don’t feel it, only that they don’t remember, which they don’t.

Ward

August 24th, 2009
1:03 pm

None of this is news and I can only imagine how many millions were spent to tell us what we already knew. The government has no business in any of this, unless of course they want to take over our healthcare…

neo-Carlinist

August 24th, 2009
1:03 pm

you gotta love the irony. let’s assume the findings are accurate, and circumcicions do prevent the spread of AIDS and other STDs (I believe a correlation between circumcision and HPV/cervical cancer has already been established). this otherwise obvious “public health” issue is viewed and debated from the perspective of an out of control, intrusive nanny government (rightly so). frankly, I’ll listen to what the CDC and the Feds say, but that the end of the day, I’d like to think I still have the FREEDOM to choose. ask me about this concept when the ’swine flu’ zealots (Big Pharm) announce mandatory innoculations for children. and for the “my body/my choice” crowd, there are other time-honored and scientifically proven methods of preventing or reducing the spread of AIDS and other STDs (everthing from absitence to condoms), so while the CDC’s advice might have merits, ultimately the issue (as all issues) comes down to the personal responsibility and accountability that comes with “choice”. GOVERNMENTS do not excercise “choice” so they are not accountable. GOVERNMETS exist to “grow” their business (which is power).

asudst1992

August 24th, 2009
1:04 pm

My son was circumscised and was sedated during the procedure. When we made it home, he never cried as if in pain when I changed him or applied vasaline. What doctor would circumscise a baby without sedating the baby?

Pragmatic/Common Sense

August 24th, 2009
1:06 pm

MKDWinLGA is right on the ball. This should never be a mandate, as with a number of other things happening in our nation. Please people, get good information and think critically for yourself.

Kelly

August 24th, 2009
1:08 pm

Jim Calloway this is poor journalism. You could have at least told us how did public health officials determine that circumcision is beneficial to helping to stop the spread of HIV and Aids.

I am starting to see how this works now, a journalist make a generic statement and the rest of us get in an uproar because we assume that it is meant one way but in fairness, we don’t know how it was meant because it was never reported one way or the other.

MadMadWorld

August 24th, 2009
1:09 pm

It strikes me as funny that the non-religious are more forceful with their opinions than the devoutly religious.

Wayne

August 24th, 2009
1:09 pm

Am I grandfather-ed in?

John

August 24th, 2009
1:10 pm

I would like to know more about the statistics that suggest it reduces the spread HIV, how? Condoms serve the same purpose- will bars be obligated by the CDC to hand these out too?

Rainbow

August 24th, 2009
1:12 pm

My guess is that the ancient Jews figured out it was a health problem too, and that’s why they adopted the procedure. The science shows much less chance of contracting or passing STDs if you are circumcised. Girls should also get the HPV vaccine. Hepatitis B is an STD, it lasts a lifetime and will kill you. There’s a vaccine for it as well.
It’s about health and safety. The government isn’t going to force anyone to do it.
Just remember, your kids are going to do the same stupid sexual things you did when you were kids/young adults..

cut

August 24th, 2009
1:15 pm

This is what condoms are for… get real and stop controling the USA people.

Catch-22

August 24th, 2009
1:15 pm

Another shot fired in the healthcare debate. If you want Obamacare to pay for abortions based on choice, you almost have to be in favor of state-sponsored genital mutilations based on choice. Conversely, if you oppose spending Federal funds on abortion due to religious concerns, you philosophically should also be against state-sponsored performance of a religious rite.

I mean, people couldn’t be so hypocritical as to be inconsistent, could they? Heh. Love irony.

Corey

August 24th, 2009
1:16 pm

If the foreskin retracts there is no need to circumcise.

AMAR12

August 24th, 2009
1:23 pm

It’s amazing that only 15% of the world’s population is circumcised. Only Americans feel it’s necessary and more and more Americans are opting against it these days (check CA rates). It’s unnecessary but also it’s a parent’s right to choose. The government shouldn’t be involved in this decision.

Leary

August 24th, 2009
1:28 pm

I was and I am glad. Had a friend who wasn’t until and infection made it necessary at the age of 22. He was was in much pain for over a week. Put the education out there and allow the parents make the decision. Its no skin off your whatever…

glad notnatl

August 24th, 2009
1:30 pm

i agonized over this decision 27 years ago for my son…we decided to circumcize because the majority of boys were circumcized and so he would not feel different in a locker room….still do not know if it was the best decision but we knew it was much easier to have it done then as opposed to being an adult…and still do not know if it was the best decision…i would ask my son…maybe men should be the ones to decide how they feel and what is best based on any new medical info…

Ronda

August 24th, 2009
1:30 pm

That’s why you wear condoms…novel idea. Instead of being hacked up as a baby, use protection to stop the spread of HIV.

Didn’t do it to my baby and I have NO regrets.

THE VOICE OF REASON

August 24th, 2009
1:32 pm

Hello!!? It says “promoting circumcision” NOT “requiring circumcision!” There is a BIG difference.

hog

August 24th, 2009
1:36 pm

MOST OF THE ABOVE COMMENTS JUST PROVE HOW IGNORANT EVEN THE “SMART” PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY. JUST BECAUSE THE CDC RECOMMENDS THAT NEWBORNS HAVE A CIRCUMCISION DOES NOT MANDATE THAT ALL PARENTS DO IT. THERE IS A TON OF DATA THAT DO SHOW REAL MEDICAL BENEFITS TO THE PROCEDURE. CURRENTLY MEDICAID DOES NOT PAY FOR CIRCUMCISIONS AND THUS MANY PARENTS DON’T EVEN HAVE IT AS AN OPTION. IT IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE A SOCIAL ISSUE FOR INDIVIDUAL PARENTS TO DECIDE. THIS WON’T CHANGE JUST BECAUSE THE CDC SORTS THROUGH THE DATA TO MAKE A FORMAL RECOMMEDATION. HOWEVER, THESE ARE FACTS: NOT BEING CIRCUMCISED LEADS TO INCREASED RATES OF HPV, HIV, OTHER STDS, PENILE CANCER AND MORE. PARENTS HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW THE FACTS ABOUT THIS.

Brian

August 24th, 2009
1:38 pm

I was circumcised at birth. It was awful. I couldn’t walk for a year.

Reality Check

August 24th, 2009
1:39 pm

I am a 32 year old male.

I am circumsized.

I can’t thank my parents enough. My little warrior is strikingly handsome and my sex life has been incredible. My wife is pregnant with our first, a son. He will be circumsized.

Shadow 7071

August 24th, 2009
1:40 pm

What is it going to take for the majority of us to wake up, realize that we’re American citizens, born with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness; and, then send the message to all of the – reformers, do gooders, the over sensitive, the politically correct, change agents, politicians and power hungry bureaucrats to go to H*ll

SLJenkins

August 24th, 2009
1:41 pm

I totally agree with a federal mandate in making sure that all males born in the U.S. are circumscised prior to being released after birth. I do understand the religious complications that can come from this but for the most part the STD rates in America are getting worse and it is proven that those who are not circumscised are at greater risk therefore the government is only looking after the health risk for millions of Americans.

If you oppose then simply move to a country that allows for those who wish to remain uncircumscised to run the higher risk of contracting life threatening STD’s.

Mark

August 24th, 2009
1:42 pm

“The practice is barbaric and should require the consent of the person being circumcised.” Huh????

MadMadWorld

August 24th, 2009
1:45 pm

RC nobody here cares about your life, go back to Bookman, kthxbye

Heavenly creature

August 24th, 2009
1:47 pm

Uncircumcised penises disgust me. I would never have sex with a man who was uncircumcised. It’s ugly. Circumcised penises are lovely though!

MadMadWorld

August 24th, 2009
1:52 pm

Mark says “The practice is barbaric and should require the consent of the person being circumcised.” Huh????

Would cutting off one of your testicles seem barbaric?

Cats

August 24th, 2009
1:55 pm

Heavenly Creature– I agree with you!!! Don’t even want to think about looking at one uncircumcised.

Un-Cut

August 24th, 2009
1:59 pm

Dear Reality Check, I am glad you are happy being uncircumcised. You have no idea what it feels like to be UNcircumcised. I do. Let me tell you, it is GREAT! I will try to experience the sensation you feel by duct-taping my foreskin open for a few weeks/months/years/decades. THAT should increase my pleasure!. I have an idea to help prevent athlete’s foot. Let’s cut off the toes of all newborns! That should help.

Political Foreskin

August 24th, 2009
2:02 pm

I wonder if this story is even true. The NY Times has been busted making up stories for so long, I dare say that are hardly a credible news source.

Bob

August 24th, 2009
2:03 pm

I’m really glad my mom circumcised me. The alternative is disgusting. The military requires circumcision because the alternative is disgusting and dangerous. It’s much better when You’re one day old than 18.

Please circumcise your children for their own good and for the public good.

All that being said. The government shouldn’t mandate crap like this.

helmet head

August 24th, 2009
2:05 pm

Dear Un-Cut: your sensations will be even better when you have a partner

MadMadWorld

August 24th, 2009
2:05 pm

Hey Cats and HC, What do you two think of the practice of removing the clitoris? Seem similar..

Anthony

August 24th, 2009
2:09 pm

Federal Mandate? Shall we move on to female circumcision next because it’s done in Islamic culture, or better yet under equal protection of the law as not discriminate against one class of citizen (males). The CDC is making a health recommendation based on a medical study, not governmental control. Would you not want them to make these recommendations, similar to ‘washing your hands with soap after urine and fecal discharge lowers the chance of illness’? This is a parental choice matter.