Perdue gives an unprecedented briefing on water fight to eight candidates out to replace him

One of the most unusual hours in Georgia politics took place on the first floor of the state Capitol this afternoon, as Gov. Sonny Perdue gave a bipartisan, Power-Point briefing on the state’s legal fight for water to eight of the candidates who want to replace him.

The meeting was a continuation of the outreach Perdue has conducted since last month, when a federal judge ruled that most of metro Atlanta has no right to use Lake Lanier for drinking water. The ruling is considered a turning point in the 19-year fight among three states — Alabama, Florida and Georgia — over water and economic development.

The private meeting with candidates, one of whom will replace Perdue in January 2011, was unprecedented and served to underline the seriousness of the situation. Take the fact every major candidate chose to attend the meeting as evidence that the issue will be a hot one next year.

(We’ve been challenged on the use of the word “unprecedented.” Zell Miller, we’re told, gave a day-long briefing on the state’s economy before the 1998 election, inviting all the contestants. But Barnes was the only one to attend.)

The governor spoke to a relatively well-seasoned audience.

Roy Barnes, who conducted his own negotiations with Florida and Alabama over water when he was governor, was among those who sat around a circular table in a basement conference room. As was Attorney General Thurbert Baker, another Democrat, who has been involved the development of legal strategies.

In all, four Democrats and four Republicans showed. Republicans were Secretary of State Karen Handel, state Insurance Commissioner John Oxendine, state Sen. Eric Johnson of Savannah, and state Rep. Austin Scott of Tifton.

Two Republicans were not there. U.S. Rep. Nathan Deal excused himself, having attended a similar session with the Georgia congressional delegation earlier in the week. Still trying to find out if states’ rights candidate Ray McBerry was invited.

In addition to Barnes and Baker, Democrats included House Democratic Leader DuBose Porter and David Poythress, former head of the Georgia National Guard.

Barnes asked a few questions about infrastructure funding, we’re told. He and Perdue shared at least one light-hearted exchange on the topic of Georgia’s border with Tennessee — which Georgia claims should be farther north, giving the state access to the Tennessee River. Scott was the candidate asking the most questions.

Afterwards, Barnes, Handel and Baker left quickly. But we were able to grab the five others.

Said Eric Johnson, Republican:

“It was a good briefing. Getting the candidates together from both sides of the aisle together, I think, was a good sign. Everybody in that room realizes the critical nature of the issue — and hopes that it’s resolved before one of us is elected.

‘It was very respectful. A former governor was at the table. The attorney general is involved in the litigation. All I can say is I’ve endorsed the strategy that the governor has pursued.”

Said John Oxendine, Republican:

“I want to commend [Perdue] for bring us together on a bipartisan basis. If I am blessed to be the next governor of the state of Georgia, I’ll be one of the first people to call the leaders together, and I’ll be there — shovel in hand — ready to start digging reservoirs.

“I hope it is resolved before the next administration, but I fear that one of us will have to inherit this problem.”

Said David Poythress, Democrat:

“It was basically a straight-up, non-partisan type of presentation. Not a lot of detail, but a good overview of where we stand. I think the governor was very responsible to ask candidates to come in and get the briefing.

“I think the chances of this being resolved before the end of next year are practically zero. I wish there were some silver bullet, but I don’t see it.”

Said Austin Scott, Republican:

“It was a good meeting, very fact-based. I leave that meeting very much convinced that conservation is the route Georgia must go now. We need to find the water systems that have the highest seepage rate, we need to start fixing those problems, do a cost benefit analysis [to see] where we can save the most water for the least amount of money. And we need to start today.

“Absolutely, it’s ahead of building reservoirs. The cheapest gallon of water is the one that you never use. As a fiscal conservative, I believe that conservation is the cheapest way to solve the problem. Seepage rates run anywhere from about 10 to about 18 percent.”

Said DuBose Porter, Democrat:

“I appreciate [Perdue] calling everybody in to brief us, and to bring us into what his strategy is. I think one of the main problems that we’re facing is that — because it restricts the flow of what comes out of Lake Lanier — the [statewide] water plan is basically in jeopardy. You have a water plan that was based on political lines instead of watersheds anyway. I think one of the first things we have to do is redesign our water plan.

“I think there needs to be more information. We asked about seepage. Those numbers I would have thought would been more readily available, as to what is leaking before it gets back into the water stream. I thing there are some things that need to be shored up, so we come in with some credibility.”

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That’s refreshing… No seriously.

August 19th, 2009
6:51 pm

[...] State Rep. Austin Scott (R-Tifton): “It was a good meeting, very fact-based. I leave that meeting very much convinced that conservation is the route Georgia must go now. We need to find the water systems that have the highest seepage rate, we need to start fixing those problems, do a cost benefit analysis [to see] where we can save the most water for the least amount of money. And we need to start today. [...]

Tim

August 19th, 2009
6:55 pm

If this doesn’t make it obvious Perdue is going to leave this mess for the next governor to clean up, nothing will. He should be working to solve it instead of making preparations to let somebody else deal with it.

jconservative

August 19th, 2009
6:59 pm

What did he really say? “Sorry guys but I really screwed up.”

Nick

August 19th, 2009
8:06 pm

McBerry may be the best candidate nation-wide running for a governorship this year. I wish we had someone like him here in Nevada. Georgians would err greatly if they rejected his Constitutional, liberty-loving message.

JH

August 19th, 2009
8:38 pm

I wonder why Ray wasnt there. He’s definitely the best candidate in the race right now.

http://www.georgiafirst.org

Mae

August 19th, 2009
8:40 pm

“And I’ll be there — shovel in hand — ready to start digging reservoirs,” says John Oxendine. Well I have some news for the Ox, your statement reflects 19th century thinking for a 21st century problem. As pointed out by Sen. Jeff Chapman in a press release today, the best way to fix a leaky bucket is to patch the holes, meaning it’s smarter to make optimum use of the water we have before turning to costly ways to provide more. The Ox, on the other hand, has proposed that if we just keep dumping more and more water into the leaky bucket we can fill it faster than it drains. Come on! Where’s the fiscal sense in that kind of thinking? As a Republican, I expect a more fiscally responsible approach to our water supply problem from the man who is currently the odds on favorite to win my party’s nomination for Governor. I know that an “economic stimulus package” for contractors who would build the kind of stuff the Ox is ready to help shovel along seems fine for its beneficiaries, but for a common sense solution, and for good public policy, I suggest everyone give Chapman’s press release a close read.

Ron

August 19th, 2009
9:10 pm

I intended to write a few about the wisdom of Sonny Perdue’s effort to bring to the “water table” all of the gubernatorial contenders, but after reading Mae’s posting on Sen. Chapman’s press release, I decided to take a look at what the Senator had to say about our water supply problem to see if there’s anything to what he says. What I found is a down to earth, common sense proposal on how we can help to get ourselves out of the water fix we have stumbled into over the past half century. With the exception of Teddy Roosevelt, I’ve not heard of a Republican leader turning to conservation as a viable means of dealing with man-made problems, but that’s what Chapman does. He speaks of smart use of water as a first and best step to dealing with our water supply problem. He speaks of avoiding the waste of millions of taxpayer dollars on legal fees in pursuit of a no-win court appeal to the Magnuson decision and of eschewing costly reservoir construction as a first course of action. Proposing that we do all we can to make better use of the water we have before turning to ways to increase the water supply, Chapman’s thinking is fiscally responsible, environmentally friendly, and consumer smart. Not bad for a guy who wasn’t sitting at Perdue’s “water table” today…..

Base

August 19th, 2009
10:24 pm

Sonny leaves a mess for another incompetent to take up like water,transportation, employment and the economy.In fact Sonny has accomplished nothing for eight years.Kick the can down the road.

Mari

August 20th, 2009
8:10 am

If the bucket gets taken away, it doesn’t matter if you conserved the water in it. Unless something changes in the next three years, we won’t have a bucket anymore.

The REAL GodHatesTrash, Superstar

August 20th, 2009
8:44 am

Getting a briefing from Goobernor Perdoofus is like getting a briefing from the dining room table. Barnes is too smart for that.

renem

August 20th, 2009
9:44 am

If you look at this meeting in the context of Perdue’s other actions (appointing Georgia Power’s CEO to lead his negotiating team, threatening to bring up archaic cases and irrelevant environmental records to use against Alabama and Georgia, and continuing to pay for pointless litigation) then it seems clear that Perdue is trying to make himself look like Georgia’s strong “war” time leader. However, his actions really just reveal ineffectiveness … and yes – kicking the can down the road. Appointing Georgia Power’s CEO to such a key state position might seem like a strong move, but really it just lets corporate interests sneak into a position of influence. His threats against other states just shows that he cares more about his ego than actually coming to a reasonable agreement. Perdue’s fuding for pointless litigation is only effective at making Perdue appear to be pro active on the issue. Lastly, this last meeting he had just reveals that he knows he’s not going to be able to make any real progress in the water wars.

Mae

August 20th, 2009
9:46 am

Mari is right, we certainly need to ensure that there is water available to fill the bucket, whether from Lake Lanier or elsewhere. However, policies geared toward wise and efficient use of the water, as Chapman points out, should promote the odds of a favorable Congressional decision on Georgia’s continued use of Lake Lanier as a water source and should encourage the cooperation of neighboring states in this regard. The point is that we need a multi-pronged approach to resolving the water problem, with conservation and water efficiency programs taking the lead rather than lagging behind the more costly approaches being pushed by some Georgia lawmakers and gubernatorial contenders.

pd

August 20th, 2009
9:56 am

As of right now, I am still leaning on voting for David Poythress, but I have to admit that a couple of these other guys are catching my attention from both parties.

I can rule out any vote for Oxending. From being in the insurance industry, I feel that I have a good idea of who he is, and I feel that he is a power hungry typical politician. He does favors for those who contribute to his campaign.

NM

August 20th, 2009
11:29 am

Imagine this! Perdue could not fix in eight years problems that were created over one-hundred fifty years (most of it due to growth) AND it is all because he is a Republican. I hope that Georgia has an Independent candidate in the next election. I am tired of “bi”-partisan politics.

GatorBait

August 20th, 2009
11:59 am

Leave it up to Porter to start the political fighting again. Every other candidate applauded the bipartisanship because they realize we ALL are going to have to solve this. Porter still sees it as Democrats vs. Republicans; Us vs Them; Good vs Evil. I am tired of it. GROW UP! And I’m a Democrat!

Marietta

August 21st, 2009
6:44 am

This is a serious situation-for adults only. Perdue is way over his head in this. His staff, which once included Karen Handel, is out-manned in every way by their counterparts in Alabama and Florida. I think the litigation results show this very well. I still can’t get over that his “counsel” has been a lawyer for a whole 6 years. Indefensible.

Likely Barnes and Deal are the only two capable of handling this situation come January 2011.

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