From a ‘birther’ poll: 6% of Americans don’t think Hawaii’s a state, and 4% aren’t sure

Public Policy Polling of North Carolina has taken a deeper look at the “birther” movement with a nationwide poll just out this afternoon.

According to PPP, 62 percent of Americans think President Barack Obama was born here, 24 percent say he wasn’t, and 14 percent aren’t sure.

Among the doubters: 6 percent who are willing to concede that Obama was born in Hawaii, but don’t think Hawaii is part of the United States. Another 4 percent are unsure of Hawaii’s status in the Union.

In other words, one-fourth of those who have questions about Obama’s origins aren’t sure why we have a 50th star on the American flag.

Up until the 1980s or so, the average American family had a set of encyclopedias in the house, to give school children something from which to plagiarize, and to settle bar bets.

It was always assumed that most families also bought the annual updates that chronicled events that occurred after the Truman Administration. Now we know how many didn’t.

More details on birthers:

— 62% are Republicans, 20% are Democrats, and 18% are independents;
— 57% are conservatives, 33% are moderates, and 9% are liberals;

— 56% are men, 44% are women;

— 86% are white, 7% are Hispanic, 4% are black, and 3% are other races.

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136 comments Add your comment

GoOx

August 19th, 2009
2:01 pm

My man Ox was born in the US.

Keith

August 19th, 2009
2:02 pm

The reason Obama will not release a copy of the original birth certificate instead of the abreviated certificate of live birth is that it lists his race as caucasion.

Weststar

August 19th, 2009
2:10 pm

The only thing transparent about Obumbles is his resume. With such a thin resume, can we really expect Obumbles to understand and appreciate how the American economy operates any more than, say, Hugo Chavez or Fidel Castro?

Obumbles has very limited experiences on which to draw as president, which is why he believes we should talk to international kooks, promote policies that punish the producers and rewards parasites, and spend trillions and trillions of dollars we do not have.

Get Real

August 19th, 2009
2:15 pm

I have been questioning Ovomit’s motives since day one. WHY would anyone hire a time of million dollar lawyers to hide and seal his birth certificate? If you have nothing to hide, why are you hiding it? This man is a USURPER. Why else would he refuse to show his “vault” b.c.? It’s because he 1) doesn’t have one, or 2) is worried that people will find out that he is pulling off the biggest fraud in American history. Be afraid, people…be VERY afraid. This man bows to terrorists and insults our biggest allies. He is trying to ruin MY country, and I will do everything in my power to campaign AGAINST him.

TheMan

August 19th, 2009
2:16 pm

Keith, i don’t follow. What’s the State secret that Obama is protecting here? Race. How many people do we need to certify the Hawaii is in the Union and that Obama was born in the state?

What about any of thousands of foreign born citizens of the U.S., whose parents are serving the military in places like Germany, Hawaii, or Alaska? Are they citizens or just aliens using a loophole to sneak into the country?

Josh

August 19th, 2009
2:19 pm

Wow, don’t you learn the states in about third grade?! This makes those fairly simple tests immigrants have to take to become citizens seem like rocket science.

Blue

August 19th, 2009
2:20 pm

Obama was president of the Harvard Law Review. He probably is smart enough to realize by now that he has the impossible task of trying to govern a country full of nitwits. The Chinese are eating our lunch because we are so backward and ignorant–and proud of it!! Our only hope was public education but the far right has tried to destroy that, as well as the rest of our social fabric. The corporations and their politician lackeys haven’t figured out yet that when you fleece the sheep so reularly and so completely, the sheep have nothing left to fleece.

TheMan

August 19th, 2009
2:23 pm

“Get Real”, I was born in the state as well. I would never release anything vital or personal to the public for viewing. In this age of identity theft.

Why do you think it is only permitting that you or a close relative is allowed to receive a copy of the birth or death certificate? Unlike you, some who may be interested are not looking to certify but to malign someones character or steal an identity.

Why isn’t it permitted to allow an authority like the U.S. Senate certify the validity of a candidate to hold the Office of the President? Heck, if they aren’t capable of this task, then they are capable of running the country.

G.G.

August 19th, 2009
2:23 pm

It doesn’t matter if Hawaii is a state or not. Obama wasn’t born there. The Kenyans have already assured us that he was born in KENYA, and he is hiding his birth certificate. (a certification of live birth is NOT a b.c., they are 2 totally different documents.) He is a MUSLIM, by his own admission, and is making friends with our enemies. He is single-handedly destroying America at break-neck speed, and if we don’t get him out of office ASAP, our children and grandchildren will have NOTHING to call their own. It will all belong to the government. This man is fooling everyone. He even has his own people believing that he is going to pay their mortgage, utilities and even their grocery bills.

And let’s get ONE thing straight. This is NOT the first black president. He is NOT black. He is bi-racial. In fact, if you do the math, he is a higher percentage of caucasian than negroid (the proper terms). I hear him embracing his black roots constantly, but totally ignoring his white roots and the white grandparents that raised him and sent him to college. Even many dimocrats that I know (and some I don’t know) are having second thoughts about why they even elected him. We all know why he was elected, but the p.c. crowd will not admit to it.

Other countries are LAUGHING at us because they see he has pulled the wool over so many people’s eyes, to the extent that they are blind to everything he is doing/has done.

If/when he is found to be a fraud, and he will one day, there will be hell to pay.

Blue Who?

August 19th, 2009
2:26 pm

So, “Obama was president of the Harvard Law Review” – wow – he got a bunch of law students to select him to edit a student magazine. Impressive. If that is his best qualification to be president, we are all in deep doo-doo.

TheMan

August 19th, 2009
2:32 pm

“G.G.” your first sentence closed my mind to you immediately. Ramblings of a quack.

Let me get this straight Hawaii certified him but that’s not true; “A” Kenyan claims him so that certifies him as a Kenyan. AND he is a Muslim. I was looking for the rule against a certain religious background to become President.

You “Americans” are real hypocrits. You don’t even believe in the Constitution you are always arguing for.

Southerngirly

August 19th, 2009
2:34 pm

I have one word for all of you haters – JEALOUS!!!!!!!!!!

what about it

August 19th, 2009
2:41 pm

If he is listed as caucasion how many folks that voted for him to elect the first black president would not have voted for him? IF it lists him as Muslim how many folks that thought he was Christian would not have voted for him. My biggest problem is that you cannot play Little League Baseball without a certified birth certificate how can you get to be president?

Pandora

August 19th, 2009
2:43 pm

There are so many dumb and ignorant people! A 2 year old can tell you that Hawaii is a State. That’s like saying that rain isn’t wet! How dumb can a person be?

KAUAIGIRL

August 19th, 2009
2:44 pm

It is fortunate that Obama was born after Hawaii became a state. I was born in Hawaii as well,but my birth certificate shows the territory ofHawaii as place of birth. If Obama had this on his birth certificate, there would be those who would complain that he truly was not born in the USA.

ghostwriter

August 19th, 2009
2:46 pm

You nut jobs can lie about birth certificates, death panels, lost gun rights, etc. but one thing still stands true – your 401K plan still lost 40% of it’s value under the GOP. Scoreboard!

Pandora

August 19th, 2009
2:46 pm

Why is it that a lot of you red-necked racist and embarrassing African-American people are so concerned about President Obama being an American? What all of you SHOULD have been questioning was President Bush…..I NEVER saw anyone EVER question ANY President if they were an American Citizen…

President Obama IS an American and I don’t believe the LIE that there is caucasian written on his birth certificate…how foolish of people to actually believe that…well I’m certain that those same people who believe that also don’t think that Hawaii is a State…..HAHAHAHAHA! How SAD is that? I think a lot of you should have NOT dropped out of school when you were 18 months old!

Pandora

August 19th, 2009
2:47 pm

I meant to say they think that Hawaii isn’t a State!

Pandora

August 19th, 2009
2:51 pm

G.G.—-Where on earth did you get that MISinformation from? President Obama WAS born in AMERICA..THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA…I could not read your crazy rantings and ravings either…you need to get a grip before you have a nervous breakdown! Face it you poor sorry pitiful soul OBAMA IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA YOU FOOL!!!

poo to u

August 19th, 2009
2:52 pm

He attended Harvard on a Foreign student scholarship. Need I say more. Why do you think he will not release his college records or birth certificate. He is not a US Citizen and when that is finally proven (and it will be) each and every person in congress should be removed from office for damagement of our constitution. Then we send every illegal home, and start all over. There will be a lot of wealthy people when we actually get to keep the money we earn. By rights, only about 1% of your check should be taken and thats for military defense, roads and border security. The rest of the taxation is illegal just like they are.

extremerightwing

August 19th, 2009
2:53 pm

All he has to do to put this to bed is to release his real birth certificate just like John McCain did when questioned over the legitimacy of being born in the Panama Canal Zone. While he is at it he could release his college transcripts so we can see how smart he really is. Also, he should release all of his medical records, just like John McCain did, so we can see how healthy he really is. If there is nothing to this, why is he spending so much money to keep these documents from the American people? Just release the documents and show the birthers they are wrong….until then, doubt will continue to grow.

Tim

August 19th, 2009
2:54 pm

GG…I await the day your precious bodily fluids drain from your sad, sad, skull. I hope you and all other wing nuts can one day realize you lost the election, you lost your chance, and you can’t change that no matter what kooky stuff you come up with. Please, all of you-band together, move to Texas, and leave the union.Only then will the rest of this nation be able to evolve socially to a better place for everyone…

Tim

August 19th, 2009
2:56 pm

poo to you..good luck with finding the country that you want…It’s not this one…never has been, never will be…

Reader

August 19th, 2009
2:57 pm

Recent polls suggest that the same people that believe Obama wasn’t born in the U.S. are the ones who are now pushing the “government is taking over my healthcare!” story. But they’re also the same ones that believe war on Iraq is for our freedom, but it was for OIL. The truth hurts doesn’t it. Yall are brainwashed. NO COMMON SENSE

chris broe

August 19th, 2009
2:59 pm

Are Americans unique in their ignorance about geography, politics, and what makes our country the best in the world?

B-Bro

August 19th, 2009
3:00 pm

Who cares where he was born lets just vote him and all the other idiot fool politicians out and try to find someone for the people if that’s at all possible. I thought this Oblunder would bring some fresh views out to the people and my gosh he’s got a three ring circus going with the clowns (Polosi, Franks, Box etc.) and the pissin match between the dems & the repubs and again here’s the people stuck in the middle getting pissed on. Will it ever end???????????????

pd

August 19th, 2009
3:02 pm

Those statistics are an embarassment to America.

clyde

August 19th, 2009
3:03 pm

Obama was born in Hawaii.He is an American ctizen.He is a poor choice for President.So was Bush a poor choice.We are into year 9 of poor choices and the country shows it.

B-Bro

August 19th, 2009
3:05 pm

People it’s time to end being a Democrat or a Republican and we the people unite and tell these damn politicians we’re going to vote them all out and get some REAL caring people in office that think of someone other than themselves.

HH

August 19th, 2009
3:06 pm

For all you “birthers”, who think there is something being hid in no publication of Obama’s”birth certificate”.
I don’t have on either – it was destroyed in a fire many years ago – but the US Army, Passport Office, People’s Republic of China, (the list is endless) have all accepted my “certificate of live birth”.
BTW- the REPUBLICAN governor of Hawaii verifies the “C of LB” too.

You nuts out there – get a life and deal with REAL problems – like health care and our dependence on oil !

You are incorrect in other countries “laughing at us” now. They see the USA as being real to its freedom now – but the previous 8 years, they laughed, hated, and despised us.

Rod

August 19th, 2009
3:11 pm

Funny how Obama is black when they want to talk bad about him but he is biracial or was raised by his white mother/grandparents when they want to say something positive. Obama is the first biracial president and Glenn Beck is a fool!

Blue Who?

August 19th, 2009
3:13 pm

I’m not debating that Obama is an American and legally the president – however, he’s screwing up as bad or worse than Bush ever did and he’s doing it earlier in his presidency. He and his ilk can’t even manage clunker cash, wasted untold billions of so-called recovery money, are scaring the crap out of investors, etc., etc., etc. but – I’m glad he and his family (oooohhh- did yo see what Michelle was wearing and, oh, the puppy looked sooooo cute!) had the time to take a vacation to Yellowstone and see Old Faithful – I guess he’s attracted to hot air. Can’t wait for 1/20/2013 – Nobama’s last day in office!

Jim

August 19th, 2009
3:13 pm

Dear Lord, save us from the idiots. There seem to be so many out there these days. And thank you, God, for giving us a man of principles and intelligence to guide our country after eight years of lies done by a bunch of fumbling, bumbling fools. Amen.

JackLeg

August 19th, 2009
3:15 pm

What amazes me is that ALL candidates that have run for high office are vetted. They have to produce a birth certificate, medical records, and college transcripts. Obozo has produced NONE of these. McCain had too? How come the media is not asking for this documentation? Free pass for Obozo……

Mark

August 19th, 2009
3:15 pm

You socialists just aren’t going to get it until it’s too late and Obama runs us straight into the ground – just like Barren Buffet says is going to happen if he keeps spending money like he can just print more… Oh wait, I forgot, he IS printing more…

Rod

August 19th, 2009
3:15 pm

BTW his white mother is really good at planning she lied about his birth. Now that is a good momma. She said to herself I want my son to grow up to be President of the US someday so let me lie. Funny how everyone wanted to change the laws for Arnold to be President one day but let someone be born to a US mother in Hawii and damn he is not an american-lol. These birthers are a mess period.

Brainwashed with Racism

August 19th, 2009
3:18 pm

Anyone that thinks racism is dead is either crazy or living on the another planet. You have to be the biggest idiots alive…. You have nothing else to say about him so you are still harping on this birth certificate issue,which the state has said repeatedly that it is an official birth certificate. I hope you racist people don’t have children in the school system, who are carrying on your racist ideology.

I agree with you **Reader**, they are brainwashed but it is by their racist ideology. Just Sad…

Shamus O'Halloran

August 19th, 2009
3:18 pm

O’Bama was born in Ireland.

Also, he is the Second Coming of Adolph Hitler except with the ability to dance and jive stupid people into believing him.

Death Panels Rule

August 19th, 2009
3:19 pm

If Hawaii isn’t really a state, will they be allowed to have Death Panels anyway? I wouldn’t live in a place without Death Panels.

Corey

August 19th, 2009
3:22 pm

Get Real, how many past presidents have released their original birth certificates? McCain was born in Panama, but because he was born on a US military base that makes him born in the USA. We are a nation reading at a sixth grade level at best. Our friends can only shake their heads when some of our brightest citizens do not know the name of the 50th state.

Kumonawanalaya

August 19th, 2009
3:23 pm

I used to watch “Magnum, P.I.” and “Hawaii Five-O” so I know Hawaii is a state. Obama still is a suckky president, though.

Dash Riptide

August 19th, 2009
3:25 pm

So much for civility.

Terri

August 19th, 2009
3:29 pm

“pooh to u” What is “damagement?” Go back to school people and get an education!

pd

August 19th, 2009
3:32 pm

Some of you actually scare me. I am afraid of what you might do.

With ignorance as your guide and anger as your motivation, who knows.

GWB

August 19th, 2009
3:34 pm

Damagement is the result after the country electorated Obama.

MikeB

August 19th, 2009
3:34 pm

The concern people have about his birth certificate, is directly related to understanding his motivation for some of the actions he has taken……

To most there is significant linkage to a hidden agenda if its proven that he was born somewhere other than Hawaii. If he has not furnished one for congressional review, he should.

Lay this to rest. I did not vote for him, and am not all that happy about his performance to date, but he is the President, and as long as he is, we should not treat him like the liberals treated Bush.

He puts his pants on the same way we do, and as long as the same rules apply to him/his administration as ordinary citizens it is what it is….. if this is not the case, then explanations to the public’s satisfaction by someone higher than the arrogant Robert Gibbs is warranted.

As a side note, I too wonder how many folks would have voted for Obama if his B.C. said “caucasian”?
I would take it one step further and learn how many of these folks have voted in previous Presedential elections, and how many were of voting age(not just 18 mind you, but able to vote for at least one prior presedential election) and voted for the first time. That would be interesting from a statistical perspective. Issues? What Issues ;-)

JM

August 19th, 2009
3:37 pm

And obviously at least 10% of those polled are complete idiots (how can you not know that Hawaii is a state??).

Goldie

August 19th, 2009
3:39 pm

Obama-haters still listen to AM radio for all their “news”, i.e. Oxycontin Limbaugh and Sean “Puffy” Hannity — LMAO!!

baptist

August 19th, 2009
3:43 pm

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Are you Serious?

August 19th, 2009
3:44 pm

I wonder if bush would have said that he was born in Hawaii, would all these questions and speculations be coming up? Is it because Obama is black? First of all the economy did not just get bad all of a sudden, it took years in the making! Second of all you people need to stop being so ignorant and let that racist stuff go. You are already bad mouthing him before you even gave him a chance. Just like it took Bush some time to ruin our economy its going to take Obama some time to fix it.