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		<title>By: Aaron Burr V. Mexico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Burr V. Mexico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heinlein also said that &quot;An armed society is a polite society.&quot;

But the part that many libertarians who love Fox News and Glenn Beck miss is the emphasis on the value placed on &quot;politeness.&quot;  The garbage tactics that they are using in town halls to shout down debate are neither rational nor admirable, and Heinlein would have been disgusted by them.  Had any of you actually read his book advocating how to achieve political power, you would have found nothing of the typical tactics being used by the astroturf movement.

Nor do I see anything in his books advocating letting Children lack health care.  Equality of Opportunity not Equality of Result does not mean voting against SCHIP because it &#039;might lead to socialized medicine.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heinlein also said that &#8220;An armed society is a polite society.&#8221;</p>
<p>But the part that many libertarians who love Fox News and Glenn Beck miss is the emphasis on the value placed on &#8220;politeness.&#8221;  The garbage tactics that they are using in town halls to shout down debate are neither rational nor admirable, and Heinlein would have been disgusted by them.  Had any of you actually read his book advocating how to achieve political power, you would have found nothing of the typical tactics being used by the astroturf movement.</p>
<p>Nor do I see anything in his books advocating letting Children lack health care.  Equality of Opportunity not Equality of Result does not mean voting against SCHIP because it &#8216;might lead to socialized medicine.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Half-foot Bobby Knuckles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Half-foot Bobby Knuckles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like to hear from those who were allowed into the meeting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like to hear from those who were allowed into the meeting.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan N. Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan N. Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response, I am not a demo drone.  I have worked all of my life.  I still work part time after retirement.  I had health insurance, but the minute I reached 65, my insurance company transferred me to Medicare (somebody did it. . .I didn&#039;t).  I presently pay for my Medicare and my Part D policy in addition to a supplemental policy.  I haven&#039;t asked anyone to take care of my health insurance needs, and I certainly haven&#039;t been coddled throughout my life.  I can and do read, however, and I listen to commentary on both sides. Many government officials say, and have said for several years, that Medicare cannot be sustained indefinitely.  Private insurance premiums are continuing to rise at an enormous rate. . .somewhere, somehow, a change will take place. . .there are too many people who can&#039;t afford the policies available, too many working mothers who cannot cover the medical costs of their children and cannot afford private insurance.  Get a grip and think before you yell at Congressmen and try to insult me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response, I am not a demo drone.  I have worked all of my life.  I still work part time after retirement.  I had health insurance, but the minute I reached 65, my insurance company transferred me to Medicare (somebody did it. . .I didn&#8217;t).  I presently pay for my Medicare and my Part D policy in addition to a supplemental policy.  I haven&#8217;t asked anyone to take care of my health insurance needs, and I certainly haven&#8217;t been coddled throughout my life.  I can and do read, however, and I listen to commentary on both sides. Many government officials say, and have said for several years, that Medicare cannot be sustained indefinitely.  Private insurance premiums are continuing to rise at an enormous rate. . .somewhere, somehow, a change will take place. . .there are too many people who can&#8217;t afford the policies available, too many working mothers who cannot cover the medical costs of their children and cannot afford private insurance.  Get a grip and think before you yell at Congressmen and try to insult me.</p>
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		<title>By: TANSTAAFL</title>
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		<dc:creator>TANSTAAFL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome back Mr. Galloway,

I trust your fishing expedition was successful and whatever you caught will be able to grow in length and girth as time passes.

We have to admit the current outbreaks of civil disbelief and naughtiness at Town Hall&#039;s around the country have caught us flat footed over here at the secret underground Libertarian Command Center (LCC). We had considered holding a small &quot;Tail Gate for Liberty&quot; Party in the parking lot over at Georgia Perimeter College to help celebrate Rep. Johnson&#039;s town hall tonight, but it seems that a permit is required and that costs money and you have to fill out forms and stuff like that. 

Then one of our media sleuths pointed out the post over at Blog for Democracy that you mentioned and we were taken aback by the deviousness of some of our democratic brothers in their suggestions of methods to control the event, intimidate the citizens and deny the people their voice. The bit about turning off the AC was classic. Nothing like a couple of hundred hot, sweaty, thirsty constituents crowded into a stifling auditorium to listen to a member of the US House drone on endlessly to promote good feelings all around.

So we have decided to dispatch a micro mobile polling group to the event tonight to try to get a feel for the mood over there in the 4th district. We&#039;ll ask a couple of yes/no questions, get a gauge of the feelings of the crowd, do an informal nose count of citizens denied entry to the steaming hot auditorium and get some cell phone vids of anything interesting. If any of your readership plans on attending as an agitator for either side, please talk to the guys wearing Joker Facepaint to be sure your story gets told.

All of this would be unnecessary if Georgia&#039;s 1934 Jim Crow ballot access laws were revoked/rescinded/repealed or if the current Secretary of State bothered to read Title 10  and Title 21 of the Official Code of Georgia. As long as the Republicans and Democrats have a lock on ballot access, they will continue to treat all Georgians with disdain and disrespect. 

So, see you at the Town Hall parking lot tonight! Support the Constitution, Defend the Republic, Vote Libertarian!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome back Mr. Galloway,</p>
<p>I trust your fishing expedition was successful and whatever you caught will be able to grow in length and girth as time passes.</p>
<p>We have to admit the current outbreaks of civil disbelief and naughtiness at Town Hall&#8217;s around the country have caught us flat footed over here at the secret underground Libertarian Command Center (LCC). We had considered holding a small &#8220;Tail Gate for Liberty&#8221; Party in the parking lot over at Georgia Perimeter College to help celebrate Rep. Johnson&#8217;s town hall tonight, but it seems that a permit is required and that costs money and you have to fill out forms and stuff like that. </p>
<p>Then one of our media sleuths pointed out the post over at Blog for Democracy that you mentioned and we were taken aback by the deviousness of some of our democratic brothers in their suggestions of methods to control the event, intimidate the citizens and deny the people their voice. The bit about turning off the AC was classic. Nothing like a couple of hundred hot, sweaty, thirsty constituents crowded into a stifling auditorium to listen to a member of the US House drone on endlessly to promote good feelings all around.</p>
<p>So we have decided to dispatch a micro mobile polling group to the event tonight to try to get a feel for the mood over there in the 4th district. We&#8217;ll ask a couple of yes/no questions, get a gauge of the feelings of the crowd, do an informal nose count of citizens denied entry to the steaming hot auditorium and get some cell phone vids of anything interesting. If any of your readership plans on attending as an agitator for either side, please talk to the guys wearing Joker Facepaint to be sure your story gets told.</p>
<p>All of this would be unnecessary if Georgia&#8217;s 1934 Jim Crow ballot access laws were revoked/rescinded/repealed or if the current Secretary of State bothered to read Title 10  and Title 21 of the Official Code of Georgia. As long as the Republicans and Democrats have a lock on ballot access, they will continue to treat all Georgians with disdain and disrespect. </p>
<p>So, see you at the Town Hall parking lot tonight! Support the Constitution, Defend the Republic, Vote Libertarian!</p>
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		<title>By: ^^^idiot</title>
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		<dc:creator>^^^idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Confederated GOP, how are we supposed to work together when 33% want more government, 33% want the status quo, and 33% want less government. If anything, let the states decide like the constitution says and stop the federal government power grab. It isn&#039;t just Obama but every president over the past 150 years</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Confederated GOP, how are we supposed to work together when 33% want more government, 33% want the status quo, and 33% want less government. If anything, let the states decide like the constitution says and stop the federal government power grab. It isn&#8217;t just Obama but every president over the past 150 years</p>
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		<title>By: confederated GOP</title>
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		<dc:creator>confederated GOP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is greed if every one  did there part this could be over in a week. use what work. 2cent2 we are not dismissing any one but I ask you the same question why you keep saying no to every thing. we want to work with you but we want the same from you guys. employee base health is down for the count. HMO tell your doctor what to do every day and you guys know it. a lot of people go bankrupt  with the system we have now. fighting is not the answer nor is saying no to every thing to. Let work together or fight with each other, I say let work to help our country!! we can not get all we want but we all can win!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is greed if every one  did there part this could be over in a week. use what work. 2cent2 we are not dismissing any one but I ask you the same question why you keep saying no to every thing. we want to work with you but we want the same from you guys. employee base health is down for the count. HMO tell your doctor what to do every day and you guys know it. a lot of people go bankrupt  with the system we have now. fighting is not the answer nor is saying no to every thing to. Let work together or fight with each other, I say let work to help our country!! we can not get all we want but we all can win!!</p>
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		<title>By: R[love]ution</title>
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		<dc:creator>R[love]ution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PD, that is not true at all. Just because the media and the democrats don&#039;t report other plans, doesn&#039;t mean people haven&#039;t proposed them. Ron Paul has been advocating a truly free market model (unlike the sham that democrats call &quot;free market&quot;) since at least 2004. If you don&#039;t believe me, google &quot;Ron Paul health care.&quot; He wants 3rd party payers out of the system so that we don&#039;t by pass pricing mechanisms. He wants tax credits for all medical spending. Get rid of HMOs. The reason health care costs have skyrocketed is because of the increased government intervention. The two areas of our economy with the fastest inflation are education and healthcare which shouldn&#039;t surprise you are the two areas that government regulation and intervention are the HIGHEST. Government is not the solution but the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PD, that is not true at all. Just because the media and the democrats don&#8217;t report other plans, doesn&#8217;t mean people haven&#8217;t proposed them. Ron Paul has been advocating a truly free market model (unlike the sham that democrats call &#8220;free market&#8221;) since at least 2004. If you don&#8217;t believe me, google &#8220;Ron Paul health care.&#8221; He wants 3rd party payers out of the system so that we don&#8217;t by pass pricing mechanisms. He wants tax credits for all medical spending. Get rid of HMOs. The reason health care costs have skyrocketed is because of the increased government intervention. The two areas of our economy with the fastest inflation are education and healthcare which shouldn&#8217;t surprise you are the two areas that government regulation and intervention are the HIGHEST. Government is not the solution but the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: David Scott on a racial undertone in the debate over health care reform &#124; Political Insider</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Scott on a racial undertone in the debate over health care reform &#124; Political Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As noted this morning, Scott was the topic of a WXIA TV report over the weekend, which detailed an Aug. 1 confrontation with opponents of health care reform at a town hall meeting in Douglasville. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As noted this morning, Scott was the topic of a WXIA TV report over the weekend, which detailed an Aug. 1 confrontation with opponents of health care reform at a town hall meeting in Douglasville. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 2Cents2</title>
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		<dc:creator>2Cents2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are alternative ideas out there other than nationalizing more of our health care system. Here are some - 

Require people who are offered work health insurance to buy it (appx 12 million of the 47 million without healthcare)

Require insurance companies to allow interstate policies.  (lowers cost)

Stop pre-existing condition clauses in insurance (allows for competition when you can change cos)

Have catastrophic insurance available for people who don&#039;t want full coverage: young adults, immigrants, people just starting out. (it&#039;s economical and the best choice for many healthy individuals)

Require legal immigrants buy catastrophic ins when they come into the country (appx 8 million of the 47 million that don&#039;t have insurance)

Deport illegal immigrants. (appx 11 million of the 47 millison that don&#039;t have insurance)

Change the laws that allow any baby born in the US automatic citizenship (TX,CA, AZ are overrun with illegals giving birth in border towns)

Update our health care databases and make it more efficient.

Stop giving everyone on medicare/medicaid motorized scooters.  (I doubt it&#039;s a huge expense, but the commercial that says &quot;if the gov won&#039;t buy you one, we&#039;ll give you one for free&quot; makes my blood boil. And it&#039;s indicative of how wasteful our nationalized programs are now.)

Increase Medicare for those that are the working poor. (the last 16 million that don&#039;t have insurance today)

And those are just a few I&#039;ve heard that make sense to me.  

And for those talking about rising health care costs - one reason health care has gone up is because it&#039;s better today than it was 10, 20, 40 years ago.  40 years ago we had no effective cancer treatments.  We didn&#039;t have MRI scans.  We didn&#039;t have life saving surgeries, better lenses for cataract patients, and on and on.  We&#039;re not just paying more due to inefficiencies.  We&#039;re paying more for technologically advanced health care. 

We need health care reform and it&#039;s not just democrats who think so.  But why do we have to change an entire system because 15% of the population is under-insured?  What about the other 85%?  What a waste of resources to scrap an entire system when 85% have health insurance.  It&#039;s inefficient and expensive to scrap a huge system, to change laws,to require companies to add more paperwork, etc.  

Health care reform is good.  But it should be done in increments so we can see what works and what doesn&#039;t work.  How about trying some small test groups (states, for example) to see what works and how to create efficiencies?  There are lots of good ideas out there.  I&#039;m tired of hearing that the only idea is this one HUGE plan that has to be done NOW.  Bullocks.
 
Democrats dismiss Republicans by saying there are no other ideas and by insinuating everyone who&#039;s disagreeing at the town hall meetings are agitators and not &#039;real&#039; citizens.  I think this dismissive attitude is going to come back to haunt the democratic congress and the left bloggers.  Because while it might make democrats feel good to be dismissive, it&#039;s not smart to under estimate your opponents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are alternative ideas out there other than nationalizing more of our health care system. Here are some &#8211; </p>
<p>Require people who are offered work health insurance to buy it (appx 12 million of the 47 million without healthcare)</p>
<p>Require insurance companies to allow interstate policies.  (lowers cost)</p>
<p>Stop pre-existing condition clauses in insurance (allows for competition when you can change cos)</p>
<p>Have catastrophic insurance available for people who don&#8217;t want full coverage: young adults, immigrants, people just starting out. (it&#8217;s economical and the best choice for many healthy individuals)</p>
<p>Require legal immigrants buy catastrophic ins when they come into the country (appx 8 million of the 47 million that don&#8217;t have insurance)</p>
<p>Deport illegal immigrants. (appx 11 million of the 47 millison that don&#8217;t have insurance)</p>
<p>Change the laws that allow any baby born in the US automatic citizenship (TX,CA, AZ are overrun with illegals giving birth in border towns)</p>
<p>Update our health care databases and make it more efficient.</p>
<p>Stop giving everyone on medicare/medicaid motorized scooters.  (I doubt it&#8217;s a huge expense, but the commercial that says &#8220;if the gov won&#8217;t buy you one, we&#8217;ll give you one for free&#8221; makes my blood boil. And it&#8217;s indicative of how wasteful our nationalized programs are now.)</p>
<p>Increase Medicare for those that are the working poor. (the last 16 million that don&#8217;t have insurance today)</p>
<p>And those are just a few I&#8217;ve heard that make sense to me.  </p>
<p>And for those talking about rising health care costs &#8211; one reason health care has gone up is because it&#8217;s better today than it was 10, 20, 40 years ago.  40 years ago we had no effective cancer treatments.  We didn&#8217;t have MRI scans.  We didn&#8217;t have life saving surgeries, better lenses for cataract patients, and on and on.  We&#8217;re not just paying more due to inefficiencies.  We&#8217;re paying more for technologically advanced health care. </p>
<p>We need health care reform and it&#8217;s not just democrats who think so.  But why do we have to change an entire system because 15% of the population is under-insured?  What about the other 85%?  What a waste of resources to scrap an entire system when 85% have health insurance.  It&#8217;s inefficient and expensive to scrap a huge system, to change laws,to require companies to add more paperwork, etc.  </p>
<p>Health care reform is good.  But it should be done in increments so we can see what works and what doesn&#8217;t work.  How about trying some small test groups (states, for example) to see what works and how to create efficiencies?  There are lots of good ideas out there.  I&#8217;m tired of hearing that the only idea is this one HUGE plan that has to be done NOW.  Bullocks.</p>
<p>Democrats dismiss Republicans by saying there are no other ideas and by insinuating everyone who&#8217;s disagreeing at the town hall meetings are agitators and not &#8216;real&#8217; citizens.  I think this dismissive attitude is going to come back to haunt the democratic congress and the left bloggers.  Because while it might make democrats feel good to be dismissive, it&#8217;s not smart to under estimate your opponents.</p>
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		<title>By: Toby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Healthcare is not in the Constitution?  Neither is road and bridge building, airports, rest stops, baseball stadiums etc... The standard of our constitution is that congress is empowered to make laws which are deemed reasonable and just, period.  Anything that does not violate the bill of rights is considered reasonable.  There are many things that are not expressly enumerated in the constitution, sirs and madams.   I doubt they ever even considered that governments would build airports, what do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Healthcare is not in the Constitution?  Neither is road and bridge building, airports, rest stops, baseball stadiums etc&#8230; The standard of our constitution is that congress is empowered to make laws which are deemed reasonable and just, period.  Anything that does not violate the bill of rights is considered reasonable.  There are many things that are not expressly enumerated in the constitution, sirs and madams.   I doubt they ever even considered that governments would build airports, what do you think?</p>
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