Cop who arrested Harvard prof was a racial profiling expert; Obama stands by criticism
This from WBZ-TV in Boston is one of the better accounts (plus video links) today:
The white police sergeant who arrested black Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. said Thursday President Barack Obama was “way off base” claiming Cambridge officers acted “stupidly” during the incident.
Sgt. James Crowley, who is a police academy expert on racial profiling, responded to Gates’ home near Harvard University last week to investigate a report of a burglary and demanded Gates show him identification. Police say Gates at first refused and accused the officer of racism.
Gates was charged with disorderly conduct. The charge was dropped Tuesday, and Gates has since demanded an apology from Crowley.
“I acted appropriately,” Crowley told WBZ Radio’s Carl Stevens Thursday.
“Mister Gates was given plenty of opportunities to stop what he was doing. He didn’t. He acted very irrational he controlled the outcome of that event.”
Here’s today’s Washington Post follow-up on Obama’s comments, made at the tail end of a Wednesday evening press conference:
President Obama stood by his criticism of the Cambridge police department’s arrest of Harvard University Prof. Henry Louis Gates Jr., telling ABC News’s Terry Moran he was “surprised” by the controversy sparked by his comment during a prime-time news conference Wednesday that the department had behaved “stupidly.”
“I have to say I am surprised by the controversy surrounding my statement because I think it was a pretty straightforward commentary that you probably don’t need to handcuff a guy, a middle-aged man who uses a cane, who’s in his own home,” Obama told Moran in an interview set to air Thursday evening on “Nightline,” excerpts from which were made available online.
The president called arresting officer Sgt. James Crowley an “outstanding police officer” but emphasized that “it doesn’t make sense to arrest a guy in his own home if he’s not causing a serious disturbance.”
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Zeke
July 23rd, 2009
10:40 pm
It reminds me of how the APD were jacking people up left and right at the airport after high security was implemented post 9/11. BUT one day they jacked up a white soccer mom and all hell broke loose! Rules were changed and the jack ups ceased! That is profiling in reverse!
conservative
July 23rd, 2009
10:45 pm
Obama nominates a racist for the supreme court then he calls police stupid. Brilliant!
Ray
July 23rd, 2009
10:54 pm
Being from Mississippi, I thought I knew what racism was until I lived a year in Boston. However, not knowing what went on between the two leaves me unable to say who was wrong. I guess the rest of you must know something I don’t. Let me just say, as a white man, that it has been an awful decade for us. Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld make us look like idiots, and the constant supply of AM radio gas does nothing to help. I believe we’d have to go back to slavery days to find a time period where the white man in USA was more poorly represented.
oldtimer
July 23rd, 2009
11:03 pm
It is not racism to follow good procedure. If it was me, I would appreciate the cops double checking on someone or me breaking into my house. Everyone has ID..get over all this racial stuff….there are real problems too deal with.
death to haters
July 23rd, 2009
11:04 pm
Well I am black and think the professor was out of lines. I have seen Mr.Gates on tv and have heard him speak and this guy do not care for white people. Now, a lot of black folks is screaming racism, but am calling it how I see it. Racism do still exist but this wasn’t racism.
OedipusTax
July 23rd, 2009
11:09 pm
There are 100-120 arrests in Gwinnett County where I live every day, making a rate of 45,000 a year. Take the 18 metro county area, and very likely the equivalent of the entire population of downtown Atlanta will be arrested before this year is over. In the midst of this avalanche of crime, one event, an arrest for disturbing the peace, has been elevated to Presidential level because the fellow arrested is a buddy of Obama, and in his own right, considers himself to be a celebrity. The real story is the media feeding frenzy, and the opportunity for Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton to once more have TV time. Our chief executive should presume the innocence of the accused, which is the presumption of innocence required by law, and in this case, the accused is the policeman. The big loser: Obama, for allowing his own prejudices to cloud common decency,
Anissa
July 23rd, 2009
11:19 pm
You can say this is not racist if you want, but if a police officer walked into your home and accused you of breaking and entering, you would be pissed too. And to be arrest for being beligerant….. Please, I have seen white folks curse out cops on wildest videos and drive away without the threat of being arrested. What do you think those folks would have done if an officer was in their house uninvited!!!!!!! The bottom line is he arrested him because he was on a power trip, and a black man dared to challenge his authority. Plain and simple. If the charges were valid, why did were they dropped. President or no President, if you made a valid arrest, stick to it, don’t back down.
Dan Deacon
July 23rd, 2009
11:19 pm
Obama should be embarrassed he made such a racist remark about an outstanding police officer. The law applies to everyone, no matter if the person is your friend or another black. That makes Obama racist at that point, to side with a black that should be thankful a loyal policeman like Sgt Crowley is on the street helping to protect him from the thugs that apparently were trying to break into his home. How was the SGT to know who was who when he got there. To be a Harvard prof, Gates must be one of the most stupid or just plain racist ignorant fools around. Hopefully the SGT will sue Obama for slander and will eventually have the honor of locking up Gates for some misdemeanor in the future. No one and I mean no one, including Obama is above the law. If you’re black and you commit a crime, you will be going to jail just like any other person.
Honest Abe
July 23rd, 2009
11:23 pm
I think Obama should resign immediately. He is a reverse racist and is single handidly trying to destroy this country. Look at the people he has aligned himself with. Anyone that voted for Obama should have raw cabbage thrown at them in public and then have their voting priviledges revoked. One big ass mistake America = Obama
Acer706
July 23rd, 2009
11:24 pm
Hey People!!!!!!!
Don’t fall for the off-the-wall curve ball to deter our attention away from the important issues (i.e. the MLB steroid question during the bailout address)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Our broken, not fail, healthcare freedoms are about to be the decision of government! Left or right, who cares, when was the last time OUR government was applauded for the way OUR tax-dollars were allocated back to us? Healthcare payers and private education are the only two industries that are currently “in the black” without any government supervision. I understand that some rough edges need rounding off in the paying of healthcare. However, by no means should government be playing “doctor.” These are POLITICIANS!
I can go on and on, but to conclude: The one main, most important, dividing difference between the “reform” and our current system was NEVER mentioned last night (dodged a few times). Do your own research people and let govt know you are capable of making your own decisions!
just the way it is...
July 23rd, 2009
11:26 pm
do do do do do do doodoo do…
Lowell
July 23rd, 2009
11:33 pm
I am a white male pushing 60. If I came home from a long trip, had difficulty getting into my own home, a police officer came to my house demanding that I am who I am, saw my driver’s license showing my photo and my residence in the house, and then demanded that I step outside, I would be upset too. Whether the officer’s actions were motivated by race or by boneheadedness, it was stupid. But for Professor Gates to blow up and make a national controversy about it was also stupid. And for the President to refer to it as stupid on national TV, rather than as “an unfortunate misjudgment” was….. an unfortunate misjudgment.
Sandy
July 23rd, 2009
11:37 pm
The race card again? To make this even more of a joke is what Obama had to say. I left Atlanta due to the rap & hip hop wanabee’s, gross! Are you kidding, many years ago I went to IHOP on North Avenue & was ignored by the waitresses who chose to wait on every black customer that walked in the door after my friend and me. After about 30+ minutes of this we simply got up and left. If this were reversed look out IHOP the prez would be talking about you today instead of doing his job. Ironically I am sitting here listening to Black in America on CNN, when will it ever stop? Obama degraded & disrespected all police officers with his comments last night. CHEERS to the officer for doing his job and his department for standing by him.
I'm a DAWG too
July 23rd, 2009
11:50 pm
This is just another example of the lack of progress WE as a people have made in terms of race relations. Your comments (almost all of you)sicken me to my stomach. I am the mother of three and I am trying to raise them to accept people for who they are and not the color of their skin. I am not one to always holler racism, but if this is not racism then what is? White people view the world through the eyes of the priviledged. Anything that goes against your beliefs and anyone who “steps out of line” must be dealt with. I can’t expect you to understand not being proud of this country. I totally understand it and most African Americans do as well. If you ask my grandmother, she will tell you that she has had nothing to be proud of. Maybe it was not being allowed to ride the bus, to buy food from the back window of a restaurant, only being able to drink from certain fountains, having to say yes ma’am and no sir to white KIDS, and so many other indignities. I am only 40 and these are the things my parents and grandparents had to deal with. Just like I was raised hearing those stories and being told to be careful because you couldn’t trust white folks, you people were raised with the same messages about blacks. The thing white people can’t handle is…all the illegal and cruel acts of the past are just that…the past. It is time for us to move forward as a people. We are all here to stay. So let’s try to coexist peacefully.
we're all barking up the wrong tree, and obama joined
July 24th, 2009
12:00 am
the focus should be on the next door lady that had no clue who her neighbor was. SHE called the police. the police acted accordingly to protocol, the old professor acted on his emotion and flipped out.
EVIL REPUBLICANS TIME IS UP
July 24th, 2009
2:01 am
NOW I SEE WHY IRAN NORTH KOREA CHINA AND RUSSIA WANTS TO BOMB THE HELL OUT OF AMERICA,BECAUSE OF ITS EVIL ARROGANCE,YOU CRACKERS ARE GOING TO GET WHAT GOD HAS COMING TO YOU ALL REAL SOON,SO JUST GET YOUR REDNECK LAUGHS IN NOW,CAUSE GOD PAYBACK IS COMING!
CJ
July 24th, 2009
2:08 am
“you have no idea who your messing with.”
Unfortunately, we are beginning to learn exactly who we are “messing with.”
TinaB
July 24th, 2009
2:18 am
I think we would all agree if this happened to you; you would be some what angry too? The whole thing was blown out of porportion and as the President said cooler heads should have prevailed. You have to say that at the end of the day it was a stupid move since the charges were droped. I think both Mr. Gates and the police officer should own up to their actions and both apologize but both are too stuborn to do so. This is not to say racial profiling does not exsist because those of us that are subjected to it each day know that it does. Just that in this case IMHO was not a racist act- it was a reaction to the officer’s fustration because Mr. Gates was expressing his displeasure of the situation and he and his fellow officers were tired of hearing it. Lets be real people!
CJ
July 24th, 2009
2:24 am
All you un-”informed” experts on the situation, here is the only official document regarding what occurred. A quick read of the facts shows what we have is a disorderly gentleman. And don’t use ‘he is tired’ excuse, a ‘well known Harvard professor’ should conduct himself in a more reasonable and distinguished manner.
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/incident-report-for-professor-gates
Although it appears the great majority of posters here seem to jump at the opportunity to insert racism into this incident, it simply doesn’t exist. Sure there is racism in the world, any idiot knows that. But here, none at all. Any idiot should know that also.
CJ
July 24th, 2009
2:33 am
Maybe the professor should get some advice from Chris Rock.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/07/dear_professor_gates_updated.html
Sternberg
July 24th, 2009
3:10 am
Mr. Obama has since modified his statement, but the AJC will never let on to that fact, because it wouldn’t help them fan the flames, now would it?
EducatedBlackMan
July 24th, 2009
3:16 am
Many of you who are making comments are just illustrating how divided our country still is about the race issue. I’m not fully aware of what happened during the whole ordeal, but arresting someone in his or her own home isn’t what I call good police work, especially when no crime had been committed. If they wanted to search the house to be sure there were no intruders, then maybe they should have made it clear that was their intent. I don’t blame the professor for getting upset. Black or white, I feel he had a right to be upset. As far as President Obama goes, “stupidly” may have been a little harsh. I would probably have said that the officer was a little over zealous. And for all you Obama haters, you gave George W. Bush 8 years, why can’t Obama get at least half his term in before you condemn him. It hasn’t even been a full year. Rome wasn’t built in a day.
Adolph Maddox
July 24th, 2009
5:17 am
Am I an equal opportunity racist since I hate cops AND blacks?
PappyHappy
July 24th, 2009
5:20 am
Well, let’s just say that there is very little change we can believe in in Washington, and it is a big disappointment. The President deflected many questions regarding health care on Wednesday evening, and think that his mistake was NOT DEFLECTING the issue on Dr. Gates.
No one is perfect, but we do hold the President to a much higher standard!
Kevin
July 24th, 2009
5:51 am
For the President of the United States to comment on a small incident in a small town is just so wrong; polarizing. I don’t know if the Cop acted “Stupidly” or not and none of us basically do as we read second and third hand reports (always believe what you read and see where that gets you), but it is interesting to note the first thing people jump to is the racial divide. I’m not saying that there is a degree of profiling out there, but to jump to those assumptions right away does not speak well for all of us.
Mtn, Man
July 24th, 2009
5:52 am
Thank you, Dr. Gates and Michael J……..For distracting this country from the business of intelligent governing! The dept.of Cultural Affairs will soon be investigating such an obviously right-wing conspiracy…..outrageous! Mtn. Man
sad brotha
July 24th, 2009
6:27 am
Years ago… Andy Young’s son Bo was beaten by a couple of Washington DC Policemen (Bo was “acting the fool” and was arrested-again). Daddy Young immediately called the police racists. Later it was determined that the two police officers were black. The racial credit card is overdrawn and I am going to play ostrich everytime I hear a brother (or sista) cry!
RW
July 24th, 2009
6:31 am
Obama is a racist idiot.
Will Jones - Atlanta
July 24th, 2009
6:40 am
This incident took place less than three miles from where Crowley grew up in Cambridge.
Gates’ residence is a Harvard University Housing rental and Gates’ face, as one of Harvard’s celebrity luminaries, is on television virtually all the time.
Harvard is Cambridge. Cambridge is Harvard. Read “How Harvard Rules” to amplify the sociology lesson this “peek” has afforded to “the rest of us.”
Crowley now lives fifteen miles from Cambridge and knew perfectly well what a rare opportunity he had knocking on the door of 17 Ware St. at noon on a clear day.
Crowley was “gas-lighting” Gates after he produced his Harvard I.D., in his knit sport shirt and slacks, and he’s “gas-lighting” America now with his other-worldly confidence for his rank and job based on his membership in a police union.
Why do you think the good and decent of that “neck-of-the-woods” are moved to Atlanta and a better part of the world?
The Mafia and the Roman Catholic Church run Boston/Cambridge, in collusion with Harvard’s false-elite, now having been, in the person of Henry Louis Gates, bitten in the “behind” by the police state monster their condoned evil requires. Hob-nailed fellow-travelers who “think” Bush didn’t do 9/11 and isn’t a draft-dodging closet-queen, fall in line in support of Crowley.
In America the People is sovereign, under only G-d.
Cambridge is fascism serving the bank account and status of Henry Louis Gates.
Atlanta is America.
Cindy Sue Causey
July 24th, 2009
6:44 am
Will say as I’ve said elsewhere :: “Stupid” is an eternal favorite of elementary schoolyard bullies who use it abusively against others.. It is very often spewed in the company of similar words such as m*r*n and r*t**d..
The word “stupid” *DOES NOT* belong *ANYWHERE* in the vocabulary of someone holding the position that Obama does.. To that end, if someone has an extra thesaurus laying around, could you please drop it off at the White House as one viable tool for guaranteeing this does not occur again..?
joe biden
July 24th, 2009
6:50 am
leave my boss alone. maybe he made a mistake saying the cops were stupid and that they pick on blacks & hispanics more than whites. hey, we need the black and hispanic vote…so what’s a guy got to say?
remember, the messiah brings hope and change to the country.
socialismsux
July 24th, 2009
7:04 am
Let me be perfectly clear about this: Gates and Obama are the racists.
Norma Rae
July 24th, 2009
7:08 am
Obama has now shown his “true colors.” That said, here is what happened to me years ago. I looked out the window and saw my car had been stolen during the overnight period. When the police arrived, they asked for my ID, and then asked if I was sure I was up to date on my car loan payments. I guess I should have made a media event out of it saying they were profiling me because I am blonde.
Will Jones - Atlanta
July 24th, 2009
7:13 am
Yeah, right. A fifty-eight year-old cripple in Harvard Housing isn’t recognized by a Cambridge native in broad daylight at the edge of Harvard’s campus, with a Harvard U. photo ID, and needs to be cuffed.
Right, Gates is the “racist.”
P.S. Atlanta and Georgia – You think the “vaunted” Harvard “intelligentsia” doesn’t know Bush did 9/11, that his father popped Kennedy and King, and that his grandfather was Hitler’s banker for Vatican banker Rockefeller and Rome?
Harvard is gaslighting America. Read “How Harvard Rules.”
Let’s wake up together as the sovereign People and make 9/11 Commission-quitter Max Cleland Our Governor, for Atlanta and Georgia’s sake…and for America’s sake.
V
July 24th, 2009
7:17 am
Race relations in this country will never get better if some of these idiotic comments on this blog are any indication.
Willis
July 24th, 2009
7:27 am
The President himself is experiencing racial profiling. Those who claim he wasn’t born in this country, who believe his birth certificate is fake would not be concerned if Obama were white. It’s disgusting.
Oh yeah
July 24th, 2009
7:30 am
Obama is looking and sounding more and more like another Al Sparpton than he is the President of the United States of America. Mr. Obama, is this all you have on your plate? To meddle in a private police matter all because another black male cries racism because he doesn’t comply with an officers demand to show ID with an address and not your work ID. I don’t think any Atlanta police officer would allow me to use my work ID if he asks me for identifcation. I suppose black friends of Obama are expected to be affored special treatment. Gates demanded to be taken to jail. I imagine Gates smelled a lawsuit. Then Obama had the nerve to mention this incident in his speech when all the while we have a housing crisis, double digit unemployment and his over the top socialistic health care package his own people aren’t buying into. Obama saw his ratings just before he stepped up for his daily 30 minute reading of a teleprompter and he saw that his ratings were at 55% and at the same time in first his term, Bush II was at 56 % and Obama freaked. He knows the honeymoon is over and he has to face the real test. He also knows that no matter how horrific of a job he does and will do, he’ll have the total support of his fellow blacks. Birds of a feather stick together.
Willis
July 24th, 2009
7:32 am
“I was really looking forward to that burger,” Bush said. “And I could have had it too, if it wasn’t for that soldier getting his stupid ass blown off.” George W. Bush, President commenting on Cindy Sheehan’s sons death.
Steve
July 24th, 2009
7:38 am
Now we see the true Obama. Was not there but chooses sides based on color. Is this like when the young girl was raped in New York years ago. All the black leaders in the community showed up to support the girl until they found out she was white. They left. This isn’t about racism. This is about a cop verifying. There is a cop in my town that I know casually through sports and business. My car broke down and he pulled up in his cop car. He knew me and still I had to show my license, registration, insurance, etc. He looked in the car. He looked under the hood to verify the car was broke. Then I got his assistance. A couple weeks later I talked to him about why when he knew who I was. His response – trust but verify. You never know for sure what is going on. He is right and he was also black. Makes me wonder if Obama will automatically support a terrorist over our military wothout knowing the facts. In this town I live in there is public housing. Almost every night there are shots fired, stabbings, etc. Someone calls 911, cops show up and then nobody wants to talk to the po-po. Here is a clue – if you think your loud attitude will get my respect then you are in lala land. I don’t give a crrap about your culture if you are not doing anything to improve it. Respect does not come from the barrel of a gun or big wheels on a car. It comes from you as a person. Obama just lost my support. This whole thing reminds me that the “soul patrol” attitude is alive and well in the black community. If you automatically judge based on color then do not call a white person racist. Final comment – the hispanics I know hate blacks because of racism towards hispanics. Funny how all the sudden the blacks are trying to bring hispanics to their side. Pretty hypocritical.
Steve
July 24th, 2009
7:41 am
I think we’ve moved way past the “race card” thing. It should be called the “race gun”. Anytime a white person is accused of racism it is devastating to them personally and professionally. It brings a stigma akin to being accused of child molestation, except, I can’t remember the president singling out one child molestor as being stupid.
HRPufnstuf
July 24th, 2009
7:43 am
READ THE REPORT! He wasn’t arrested in his home, he was arrested outside, where he was creating a disturbance and frightening the people gathered in front of the home. The officer had identified himself TWICE, despite Gates continued insistence for him to give him his name over and over. The officer is SUPPOSED to control the scene, after seeing the broken door (which Gates admitted was from a previous burglary) and the officer has every right to ask him to step outside, and should, for his own safety, not knowing what other persons or threats are in the home.
A rational person would think that even a homeowner in his own home WHO HAS HAD A PREVIOUS BURGLARY would be grateful for police investigating another reported burglary, as the officer had already informed him that he was doing.
Gates is the Poster Child for Racist Bigotry, and his buddy NoBama is the same, for jumping in and throwing down his own race card.
OF COURSE the black female mayor called the professor and “apologized.” It would be political suicide for her not to. But the Police Chief supports the Sergeant, as does the International Association of Chiefs of Police. Maybe they’re all racists, huh?
Break into a home in Cambridge. Not to worry, because now you will get:
1. An apology from the Mayor
2. All charges dropped by a girly-man DA’s office.
3. A Presidential Pardon, and pat on the back.
4. All of the above.
But only, of course, if you are a minority. Whites need not apply.
Will Jones - Atlanta
July 24th, 2009
7:51 am
Officer Crowley told WBZ radio: “he controlled the outcome of that event.” Yeah, right.
Cop comes to Harvard Univ. Housing rental and internationally known 58-year-old cripple acts uppity wanting to know cop’s name and badge number. Cop handcuffs cripple.
Yeah, Gates sure controlled the “outcome of that event.”
Crowley is a “little dog” in a cop uniform with a badge and gun, seething about a black guy living next to Harvard Square when Crowley’s had to move fifteen miles from his hometown, where “the elite meet,” to raise his family.
A “big dog” would have thanked the citizen and gone on his way.
Righteous cops, nobly serving the People, are “Big Dogs.”
Will Jones - Atlanta
July 24th, 2009
7:54 am
Owwww…did the Harvard “elite” passersby get “frightened” by the three Cambridge cops cuffing their internationally known “celebrity scholar?” Yeah, just exactly what was it been protected? Crowley’s “face.”
Oh yeah
July 24th, 2009
7:58 am
I sure hope the FBI has a thick file and a watchful eye on Will Jones. I hope his neighbors pack heat. The man is insane.
vdawg
July 24th, 2009
8:03 am
it sure does seem like people need to get some facts and read the incident report. He refused to give them his ID and only later gave him his harvard id and would not give him his drivers license. The officer called the Harvard police department. In the picture released, one of the cops involved is black. While cops often times go to far, this has nothing to do with race. When the popo comes to your door, you speak to them and give them ID or you’ll find yourself on the floor real quick and then in the back seat of the car regardless of race. What this incident does illustrate is the race issue in the country. Some things are about race, many are not. Real the police report and get some facts before you comment on this, advice the President should take.
Tray
July 24th, 2009
8:08 am
Wow, our president acted STUPIDLY in commenting on this case. Black people, I hope this guy is what you wanted because he just set race relations back years for butting in to something he ADMITTEDLY KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT! On top of that, he can’t even fix our country! Everyone knows that blacks have a tendency to mouth off, it’s not a streotype, it’s a damn fact! If he would have kept his mouth shut and not insulted the cop, he would have been fine. Was he arrested for B&E?? No, he was arrested for ‘acting stupidly’.
HEY PREZBO- signing a trillion dollar spending bill without reading it is ‘ACTING STUPIDLY’!! Trying to bankrupt this country by passing this insane healthcare bill is ACTING STUPIDLY!
Tomhere
July 24th, 2009
8:09 am
To ANYONE and EVERYONE (including cops) who comes to my house:
If I don’t know you, and you don’t have a VALID WARRANT, then assume that you have a “bead” drawn on you from the moment that you get out of your car until you fully identify yourself, because YOU DO. You are “in my sights”. Come in the door and………… you get the idea.
That’s called “Exercising my Second Amendment rights”.
steven
July 24th, 2009
8:14 am
Obama stupidly passed judgment without all the facts. Obama is biased & biggoted for perpetuating sterotypes. Obama is unjust for not bothering to hear both sides of the story before arriving at a conclusion. Obama has cheapened the office he holds by doing these things.
Facts; Witnesses testify of the officer as having left the scene (porch)and heading for his car when the ‘professor’ left his home screaming insults about the officer’s mother behind him. The sidewalk is in the public domain- it’s not a private residence! The officer repeatedly warned the irrate professor that he was behaving in a disorderly way.(By the way, the professor’s own DNA research has proven him to be more white than black). After being personally insulted, falsly accused/slandered & shouted at (assulted)… the officer arrested the stupid black professor of perpetually-perturbed-Afro-American-studies.
jt
July 24th, 2009
8:15 am
Just Human
July 23rd, 2009
8:25 pm
We don’t live in a police state.
Yes…Yes we do!
Wake up and smell the pepper-spray.
Cops routinely beat white, black, brown, and yellow.
Sometimes killing them.
Tomhere
July 24th, 2009
8:16 am
HRPufnstuf – The name says it all: Puffing “stuff”.
Hey man, get out of that (smoke) cloud you’re living in.
You MIGHT find that you actually enjoy reality.