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	<title>Comments on: Fortunes of F-22 now linked to hate crimes measure</title>
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		<title>By: jaysays</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2009/07/17/fortunes-of-f-22-now-linked-to-hate-crimes-measure/comment-page-1/#comment-12174</link>
		<dc:creator>jaysays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot believe - wait, I take that back - I can believe how uninformed people are about hate crimes legislation.  For example, joe, your wife would not be charged with a hate crime because she did not attack the exposing party with the intent of &quot;sending a message&quot; to a group - she hit him for committing a crime against her.

This law does not protect people who are committing a crime.  That&#039;s absurd.  Pedophilia is a crime - there is no consent from one party (the child).  It is not an &quot;orientation&quot; under the law.

As to Channon Christenson and Chris Newsome&#039;s murders - were they &quot;hate crimes?&quot;  Were they attacked solely because they were white and to send a message to them that whites aren&#039;t wanted in that neighborhood?  I see no reports indicating that after a cursory review.  If so, Tennessee state authorities did not properly investigate the crime.  Federal investigators, under the new hate crimes legislation (AND the one that has existed for ages since the crime is allegedly race based) would apply.  The federal government could step in and take assist or take over the investigation as they would have jurisdiction by way of Bias Crime Legislation.  If there&#039;s an indication of it, contact your senators - tell them to send help *IT&#039;S THE LAW*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot believe &#8211; wait, I take that back &#8211; I can believe how uninformed people are about hate crimes legislation.  For example, joe, your wife would not be charged with a hate crime because she did not attack the exposing party with the intent of &#8220;sending a message&#8221; to a group &#8211; she hit him for committing a crime against her.</p>
<p>This law does not protect people who are committing a crime.  That&#8217;s absurd.  Pedophilia is a crime &#8211; there is no consent from one party (the child).  It is not an &#8220;orientation&#8221; under the law.</p>
<p>As to Channon Christenson and Chris Newsome&#8217;s murders &#8211; were they &#8220;hate crimes?&#8221;  Were they attacked solely because they were white and to send a message to them that whites aren&#8217;t wanted in that neighborhood?  I see no reports indicating that after a cursory review.  If so, Tennessee state authorities did not properly investigate the crime.  Federal investigators, under the new hate crimes legislation (AND the one that has existed for ages since the crime is allegedly race based) would apply.  The federal government could step in and take assist or take over the investigation as they would have jurisdiction by way of Bias Crime Legislation.  If there&#8217;s an indication of it, contact your senators &#8211; tell them to send help *IT&#8217;S THE LAW*</p>
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		<title>By: MBW</title>
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		<dc:creator>MBW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 01:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe--  That&#039;s a complete misunderstanding of what a hate crime is.  A hate crime is a crime that is committed as a result of a bias toward an entire group of people and is usually determined by motive and by the nature of the crime.    

Hitting someone with a purse because he/she exposes him or herself to you is not a hate crime.  Defending yourself from a lewd act is not a hate crime.     

Hate crimes are serious and are essentially a form of terrorism against a group of people.   

Please stop perpetuating the myth that any kind of crime against a minority is a hate crime.  It&#039;s not true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe&#8211;  That&#8217;s a complete misunderstanding of what a hate crime is.  A hate crime is a crime that is committed as a result of a bias toward an entire group of people and is usually determined by motive and by the nature of the crime.    </p>
<p>Hitting someone with a purse because he/she exposes him or herself to you is not a hate crime.  Defending yourself from a lewd act is not a hate crime.     </p>
<p>Hate crimes are serious and are essentially a form of terrorism against a group of people.   </p>
<p>Please stop perpetuating the myth that any kind of crime against a minority is a hate crime.  It&#8217;s not true.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Under this new hate crime law, if a homosexual were to &quot;expose himself&quot; to say my wife and she hit him with her purse, my wife would be sentenced to a mandatory minimum sentence in federal prison but the &quot;exposer&quot; would be charged with a misdemeanor. Think on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Under this new hate crime law, if a homosexual were to &#8220;expose himself&#8221; to say my wife and she hit him with her purse, my wife would be sentenced to a mandatory minimum sentence in federal prison but the &#8220;exposer&#8221; would be charged with a misdemeanor. Think on that.</p>
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		<title>By: WP</title>
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		<dc:creator>WP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>F-22 FIGHTER jets have posed problems from the start. They were designed in the 1980s to combat a force of advanced Soviet fighter jets that never materialized. Decades of testing and tweaking have revealed fundamental flaws in their material and structure. They cost more than $44,000 for each hour they spend in the air -- more than their predecessor, the F-15. They have never flown over Iraq or Afghanistan. The Defense Department has said it wants to cap the force at 187 and focus on next-generation F-35s instead. 

So why is Congress still trying to appropriate $1.75 billion to build more of them? 

Almost from its conception, the F-22 has been &quot;too big to fail.&quot; With subcontractors in more than 40 states and jobs in many congressional districts that depend on their continued production, even when the defense secretary has made clear that he would like to end the program, funding for F-22s still turns up in the annual defense authorization bill. In the Senate, an additional $1.75 billion for more F-22s was put into the Armed Services Committee markup of the bill, and in the House, funding for 12 additional jets has already passed. 

President Obama has made his position clear: If funding for these unwanted F-22 fighter jets is included in the Defense Authorization Act, he will veto the bill. As Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates has repeatedly pointed out, this money isn&#039;t appearing out of thin air. It is being carved away from programs that are necessary and used to fund something the department has explicitly said it does not want or need. As Mr. Gates put it, &quot;A dollar for something we don&#039;t need is a dollar taken away from something we do need.&quot; 

On this Mr. Obama and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) agree; Mr. McCain and Sen. Carl M. Levin (D-Mich.), Armed Services Committee chairman, co-sponsored an amendment that would remove the additional F-22 funding from the Senate bill. 


Doing so would not shortchange America&#039;s military structure or industrial complex. Mr. Obama is committed to preserving American air superiority. But preserving air superiority does not mean continuing to fund a project that shows few signs that it is aiding this cause at all. And the same bill that takes funding from needed programs to fund F-22s would also impede production on the Defense Department&#039;s preferred aircraft, the F-35; it is a jet that can be used across the branches of the armed forces and whose design is more than 10 years ahead of the F-22s. 

Saving jobs is a laudable goal. But continuing to support such a flawed project simply because it preserves jobs is self-defeating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F-22 FIGHTER jets have posed problems from the start. They were designed in the 1980s to combat a force of advanced Soviet fighter jets that never materialized. Decades of testing and tweaking have revealed fundamental flaws in their material and structure. They cost more than $44,000 for each hour they spend in the air &#8212; more than their predecessor, the F-15. They have never flown over Iraq or Afghanistan. The Defense Department has said it wants to cap the force at 187 and focus on next-generation F-35s instead. </p>
<p>So why is Congress still trying to appropriate $1.75 billion to build more of them? </p>
<p>Almost from its conception, the F-22 has been &#8220;too big to fail.&#8221; With subcontractors in more than 40 states and jobs in many congressional districts that depend on their continued production, even when the defense secretary has made clear that he would like to end the program, funding for F-22s still turns up in the annual defense authorization bill. In the Senate, an additional $1.75 billion for more F-22s was put into the Armed Services Committee markup of the bill, and in the House, funding for 12 additional jets has already passed. </p>
<p>President Obama has made his position clear: If funding for these unwanted F-22 fighter jets is included in the Defense Authorization Act, he will veto the bill. As Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates has repeatedly pointed out, this money isn&#8217;t appearing out of thin air. It is being carved away from programs that are necessary and used to fund something the department has explicitly said it does not want or need. As Mr. Gates put it, &#8220;A dollar for something we don&#8217;t need is a dollar taken away from something we do need.&#8221; </p>
<p>On this Mr. Obama and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) agree; Mr. McCain and Sen. Carl M. Levin (D-Mich.), Armed Services Committee chairman, co-sponsored an amendment that would remove the additional F-22 funding from the Senate bill. </p>
<p>Doing so would not shortchange America&#8217;s military structure or industrial complex. Mr. Obama is committed to preserving American air superiority. But preserving air superiority does not mean continuing to fund a project that shows few signs that it is aiding this cause at all. And the same bill that takes funding from needed programs to fund F-22s would also impede production on the Defense Department&#8217;s preferred aircraft, the F-35; it is a jet that can be used across the branches of the armed forces and whose design is more than 10 years ahead of the F-22s. </p>
<p>Saving jobs is a laudable goal. But continuing to support such a flawed project simply because it preserves jobs is self-defeating.</p>
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		<title>By: Bigdog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bigdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Protecting the country commes first. If we do not protect the country then passing hate crime laws will be useless. Is it wrong to go out gay bashing, of course, but Iran with a nuke is far more inportant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Protecting the country commes first. If we do not protect the country then passing hate crime laws will be useless. Is it wrong to go out gay bashing, of course, but Iran with a nuke is far more inportant.</p>
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		<title>By: MBW</title>
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		<dc:creator>MBW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, will these Republicans now vote against funding our troops?   How unpatriotic...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, will these Republicans now vote against funding our troops?   How unpatriotic&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MBW</title>
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		<dc:creator>MBW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hilarious.  They know that no Republican can ever say no to a bunch of military pork.   That&#039;s one way to get stuff done with Republicans....just attach it to a military spending bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilarious.  They know that no Republican can ever say no to a bunch of military pork.   That&#8217;s one way to get stuff done with Republicans&#8230;.just attach it to a military spending bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Woe to the Republic 2: F-22 and Hate Crimes &#171; Gray3&#8217;s Thirdsphere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woe to the Republic 2: F-22 and Hate Crimes &#171; Gray3&#8217;s Thirdsphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Crimes Prevention Act) to assist in protecting homosexuals has been egregiously added as part of a defense bill funding the F-22. The Matthew Shepard Act in and of itself is worthy, so why potentially hold military funding [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Crimes Prevention Act) to assist in protecting homosexuals has been egregiously added as part of a defense bill funding the F-22. The Matthew Shepard Act in and of itself is worthy, so why potentially hold military funding [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Copyleft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Copyleft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This illustrates the weirdness of letting legislators attach bills together as &quot;riders&quot; in a bizarre patchwork. 

&quot;If you want veterans&#039; benefits, you have to support an interactive corn museum!&quot;

&quot;Want to fund the war for another three months? Then I get a resolution declaring National Elbow Awareness Week!&quot;

&quot;Repairing a bridge? Not until we agree to sell the Chrysler Building for scrap metal first!&quot;

Every bill really needs to stand or fall on its own merits. And that&#039;s a long-standing, bipartisan problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This illustrates the weirdness of letting legislators attach bills together as &#8220;riders&#8221; in a bizarre patchwork. </p>
<p>&#8220;If you want veterans&#8217; benefits, you have to support an interactive corn museum!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Want to fund the war for another three months? Then I get a resolution declaring National Elbow Awareness Week!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Repairing a bridge? Not until we agree to sell the Chrysler Building for scrap metal first!&#8221;</p>
<p>Every bill really needs to stand or fall on its own merits. And that&#8217;s a long-standing, bipartisan problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the article by Ruby-Sachs linked to above, she calls conservative senators &quot;clever&quot; for putting Obama in a tough position of having to veto hate crime legislation.  Galloway&#039;s article says that Chambliss &amp; Isakson are &quot;uncomfortable&quot; for their support of the F-22 program.  So which is it?  Are they clever or are they uncomfortable?  Uncomfortably clever?  I don&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the article by Ruby-Sachs linked to above, she calls conservative senators &#8220;clever&#8221; for putting Obama in a tough position of having to veto hate crime legislation.  Galloway&#8217;s article says that Chambliss &amp; Isakson are &#8220;uncomfortable&#8221; for their support of the F-22 program.  So which is it?  Are they clever or are they uncomfortable?  Uncomfortably clever?  I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
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