Comments on: The myth of the 15,000 http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2009/04/27/the-myth-of-the-15000/ From the ATL to DC: Because all politics is local. Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:50:56 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Bert http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2009/04/27/the-myth-of-the-15000/comment-page-2/#comment-19489 Bert Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:24:37 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/?p=1423#comment-19489 I was at the rally. Your math is off. To determine the square footage of the protest with arbitrary numbers is nothing more than another attempt to coopt science for political purposes. You are grossly underestimating the size of the space that was actually used vs the size of the space that was the stated protest location. In all honesty, it does not matter how many people were there... what matters is that a substantial group of people are upset with the direction of the country. When your grandmother goes to a protest that should be a wakeup call. I was at the rally. Your math is off. To determine the square footage of the protest with arbitrary numbers is nothing more than another attempt to coopt science for political purposes. You are grossly underestimating the size of the space that was actually used vs the size of the space that was the stated protest location.

In all honesty, it does not matter how many people were there… what matters is that a substantial group of people are upset with the direction of the country. When your grandmother goes to a protest that should be a wakeup call.

]]> By: Anita http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2009/04/27/the-myth-of-the-15000/comment-page-2/#comment-10744 Anita Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:01:21 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/?p=1423#comment-10744 It's a bit surprising hearing from the chief propagators of lies (mainstream media) that it is unacceptable to propagate lies as news. Maybe someone should tell them: "practice what you preach" and "stop picking the splinter out of your brother's eye when you have a log in your own eye." For your information, it can be proven that it was the Associated Press (a primary news source for the mainstream media) that misreported the numbers of attendees at the Tea Party events, conveniently lowering the number - by thousands. I think the AJC, as well as the primary news outlets such as MSNBC, CNN, etc. - need to be more careful in checking their sources before reporting. I think it is the mainstream media's EGO that is inflated - since they like to downplay and look down their noses at grassroots movements of real Americans - rather than the numbers. It’s a bit surprising hearing from the chief propagators of lies (mainstream media) that it is unacceptable to propagate lies as news. Maybe someone should tell them: “practice what you preach” and “stop picking the splinter out of your brother’s eye when you have a log in your own eye.”

For your information, it can be proven that it was the Associated Press (a primary news source for the mainstream media) that misreported the numbers of attendees at the Tea Party events, conveniently lowering the number – by thousands. I think the AJC, as well as the primary news outlets such as MSNBC, CNN, etc. – need to be more careful in checking their sources before reporting.

I think it is the mainstream media’s EGO that is inflated – since they like to downplay and look down their noses at grassroots movements of real Americans – rather than the numbers.

]]> By: Sean Hannity Inflates Atlanta Tea Party Attendance | Dailycensored.com http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2009/04/27/the-myth-of-the-15000/comment-page-2/#comment-6286 Sean Hannity Inflates Atlanta Tea Party Attendance | Dailycensored.com Thu, 21 May 2009 18:00:45 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/?p=1423#comment-6286 [...] the jump) that 20,000 people attended the Atlanta tea party last month. In fact, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Hannity's and Fox News' own estimates were 15,000 – 20,000 (so Hannity's declaration of 20,000 [...] [...] the jump) that 20,000 people attended the Atlanta tea party last month. In fact, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Hannity’s and Fox News’ own estimates were 15,000 – 20,000 (so Hannity’s declaration of 20,000 [...]

]]> By: Jeff in California http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2009/04/27/the-myth-of-the-15000/comment-page-2/#comment-5093 Jeff in California Mon, 04 May 2009 20:35:49 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/?p=1423#comment-5093 At 6' and 250 pounds, I take up more floor space than a good 80% of the people in any room I enter (usually more). I have broad shoulders, but that's still only 23" and from the front of my bigger-than-desired belly to the back of my posterior is less than 14". As Mr. Galloway said, "mathematics don’t bend to feelings", so let's do some math: 23" times 14" is 322 sq. in. There are 144 sq. in. per square foot, so I take up 2.3 sq. ft. According to http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/181339, the average is 2 sq. ft. I have no means of verifying the other data Mr. Galloway provided about available area, so I am going to accept them, especially these three statements: "Zone 1 contains 32,188 square feet" "... people were indeed shoulder-to-shoulder [in] Zone 1" "TV trucks and staging took up at least one-third of the space [in Zone 1]" If everyone packed into Zone 1 were my size, there would have been (32,188 * 2/3) / 2.3 = 9,330 people, significantly higher than Mr. Galloway's estimate for total attendance. For the remaining area, we have these statements: "Zone 2 is 11,340 square feet" "they weren’t [shoulder-to-shoulder] in Zone 2" Packed full, that leaves room for another 4,930 people. If only 50% full (and this is just a guess because Mr. Galloway didn't give an estimate), that works out to 2,165 people on top of the 9,330 people in Zone 1 for a total of 11,495. Let's just round that to 11,500. Keep in mind that these calculations were based on *my* square footage. If we go with 2 sq. ft. as the average, then attendance jumps to 13,220. Remember... it's math, people, not politics. At 6′ and 250 pounds, I take up more floor space than a good 80% of the people in any room I enter (usually more). I have broad shoulders, but that’s still only 23″ and from the front of my bigger-than-desired belly to the back of my posterior is less than 14″. As Mr. Galloway said, “mathematics don’t bend to feelings”, so let’s do some math: 23″ times 14″ is 322 sq. in. There are 144 sq. in. per square foot, so I take up 2.3 sq. ft. According to http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/181339, the average is 2 sq. ft.

I have no means of verifying the other data Mr. Galloway provided about available area, so I am going to accept them, especially these three statements:
“Zone 1 contains 32,188 square feet”
“… people were indeed shoulder-to-shoulder [in] Zone 1″
“TV trucks and staging took up at least one-third of the space [in Zone 1]”

If everyone packed into Zone 1 were my size, there would have been (32,188 * 2/3) / 2.3 = 9,330 people, significantly higher than Mr. Galloway’s estimate for total attendance.

For the remaining area, we have these statements:
“Zone 2 is 11,340 square feet”
“they weren’t [shoulder-to-shoulder] in Zone 2″

Packed full, that leaves room for another 4,930 people. If only 50% full (and this is just a guess because Mr. Galloway didn’t give an estimate), that works out to 2,165 people on top of the 9,330 people in Zone 1 for a total of 11,495.

Let’s just round that to 11,500.

Keep in mind that these calculations were based on *my* square footage. If we go with 2 sq. ft. as the average, then attendance jumps to 13,220.

Remember… it’s math, people, not politics.

]]> By: The REAL GodHatesTrash, Superstar http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2009/04/27/the-myth-of-the-15000/comment-page-2/#comment-4039 The REAL GodHatesTrash, Superstar Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:04:04 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/?p=1423#comment-4039 You'll always be able to get several thousand Georgians to attend an orgy of hate and stupidity. You’ll always be able to get several thousand Georgians to attend an orgy of hate and stupidity.

]]> By: The REAL GodHatesTrash, Superstar http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2009/04/27/the-myth-of-the-15000/comment-page-2/#comment-4038 The REAL GodHatesTrash, Superstar Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:49:47 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/?p=1423#comment-4038 Whatever. The tea-baggers are an odd assortment of morons. Whatever.

The tea-baggers are an odd assortment of morons.

]]> By: Blue Fielder http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2009/04/27/the-myth-of-the-15000/comment-page-2/#comment-4031 Blue Fielder Wed, 29 Apr 2009 04:18:01 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/?p=1423#comment-4031 The rightard whiners can't handle that someone isn't telling the truth about them. Sore losers. The rightard whiners can’t handle that someone isn’t telling the truth about them.

Sore losers.

]]> By: BS http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2009/04/27/the-myth-of-the-15000/comment-page-2/#comment-4025 BS Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:49:12 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/?p=1423#comment-4025 4 sq ft? I call BS. I did my own little research and can easily fit into a 2.25 sq ft box (16 inches square), and have been to concerts where I have been much more packed than that. 15,000 is easily done in with 2.25 sq ft. Not to mention that there were many children at these protests which take up less space. 4 sq ft? I call BS. I did my own little research and can easily fit into a 2.25 sq ft box (16 inches square), and have been to concerts where I have been much more packed than that. 15,000 is easily done in with 2.25 sq ft. Not to mention that there were many children at these protests which take up less space.

]]> By: Barry http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2009/04/27/the-myth-of-the-15000/comment-page-2/#comment-4024 Barry Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:42:55 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/?p=1423#comment-4024 The tea party was nothing but a bunch of disgruntled Republican/Ku Klux Klans who need something to rally since they are not in office and now they want to obstruct anyhting, good or bad, that the Democrats are poposing and/or implementing to assist primarily the domestic problems (i.e., bamks, Wall Street, unemployment, etc.) that was created under the Republicans and the Bush administation. I am proud that many real American Republicans are swithching parties (Specter/Pennsylvasnia) due to they see the silliness the Republican leadership is taking them. He knows their party has been hi-jacked by the Ku KLux Klan and their ideology. Therefore, wake up "tea bag heads". Please get your head oput of the water. I do not care how many of you fools were at the Capitol misinforming your children about history and the real "tea party". WHat you really need to do is check your leadership and see who they really are in the disquise of the Republican Party. They are leading you to a miserable hell. God Bless You all Selah The tea party was nothing but a bunch of disgruntled Republican/Ku Klux Klans who need something to rally since they are not in office and now they want to obstruct anyhting, good or bad, that the Democrats are poposing and/or implementing to assist primarily the domestic problems (i.e., bamks, Wall Street, unemployment, etc.) that was created under the Republicans and the Bush administation. I am proud that many real American Republicans are swithching parties (Specter/Pennsylvasnia) due to they see the silliness the Republican leadership is taking them. He knows their party has been hi-jacked by the Ku KLux Klan and their ideology. Therefore, wake up “tea bag heads”. Please get your head oput of the water. I do not care how many of you fools were at the Capitol misinforming your children about history and the real “tea party”. WHat you really need to do is check your leadership and see who they really are in the disquise of the Republican Party. They are leading you to a miserable hell.

God Bless You all

Selah

]]> By: sandy http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2009/04/27/the-myth-of-the-15000/comment-page-2/#comment-4023 sandy Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:41:54 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/?p=1423#comment-4023 Do any of you left-leaning, Kum Bi Yah-singing, Bush-bashing idiots have anything else, besides your diatribes against FOX news and hatred of Sean Hannity? You've all been drinking WAY too much of the Kool aid - Your worship of Obama and his anti-American policies will be the death of this nation. President Cool will eventually get his way and we will become One Nation under ALLAH very soon. He will continue to do what he promised, Change! Change the US, take your "change", leave you no change, etc... But you don't care, as long as you get all your freebies on someone else's dime. You all are pathetic! Do any of you left-leaning, Kum Bi Yah-singing, Bush-bashing idiots have anything else, besides your diatribes against FOX news and hatred of Sean Hannity? You’ve all been drinking WAY too much of the Kool aid – Your worship of Obama and his anti-American policies will be the death of this nation. President Cool will eventually get his way and we will become One Nation under ALLAH very soon. He will continue to do what he promised, Change! Change the US, take your “change”, leave you no change, etc… But you don’t care, as long as you get all your freebies on someone else’s dime. You all are pathetic!

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