Comments on: The stem cell debate and when life begins

By: Logical Dude

Logical Dude — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:20:45 +0000

Okay, I’ll concede that some people believe that life begins at conception, and those beliefs are based on their religion. Others do not believe that life begins at conception, based on their (other) religion. Legislating a belief for a select few based on religion basically legistales religion. This is unconstitutional.
Thus, this bill should die.

For those with the belief that human life starts at conception, please do not push religious legislations on those that believe differently.
I’ll try not to push my (other) beliefs on you.

By: Copyleft

Copyleft — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:17:46 +0000

Now there’s a compelling argument: “The lack of research has produced no useful findings, therefore there shouldn’t BE any research!”

Huh???

By: Brad

Brad — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:45:50 +0000

This vote is like a scene out of Monty Python’s, The Meaning of Life. “…every sperm is sacred, every sperm is good…” (substitute zygote for sperm). Could the self righteous Right be anymore Pollyanna than to think that flushing stem cells is best? Oh wait, now we won’t flush them anymore whew that’s a relief. Can someone maybe Google this topic before they run screaming, “Nazi baby killers”. Doing research on zygotes is nowhere near Tuskegee nor the experiments of Dr. Mengele on the Jesus killing Jews who won’t be going to your version of heaven anyway. Yes, it’s easier to dehumanize those cute little embryos by calling them zygotes, but science is hard and thus non-scientist who think zygotes are the same as babies should not be allowed to make these kinds of hard decisions with nothing more than a Bible in one hand and the voices in their head they are convinced is God or baby Jesus guiding them to Armageddon, the second coming and salvation.

I gotta go now, Jesus is calling me to clean my gun collection.

By: fultonrighty

fultonrighty — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 02:44:18 +0000

Good question, KY Woman!

Two more points:
1. This bill doesn’t stop ANY research; it only stops killing embryos. Stem cell lines are being researched now; new ones can be imported from other states. We just won’t kill embryos in GA to create them.
2. Adult stem cells, unbilical cord blood stem cells, placental stem cells all are being used to treat people right now. Over 70 conditions and diseases have been helped, even cured, with these ethical sources. ZERO, 0, zip, no cures have come from embryonic stem cells–just lots of promises. 70+ to 0.

By: KY_Woman

KY_Woman — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 02:29:04 +0000

If science trumps morality, what’s wrong with the Tuskegee Experiments?

By: fultonrighty

fultonrighty — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 01:49:51 +0000

Money, money, money. That seems to be the overarching concern of the opponents of SB 169’s ban on killing human embryos! $$ “Georgia will lose a huge convention.” $$ “Georgia will lose biotech companies.” $$ “This is not in line with the Governor’s economic development efforts.” $$

Unfettered scientific experimentation relies on the ethics of the researcher. Is he/she driven by fame? by money? by science for science’s sake? by ego? Are there to be no checks and balances on scientists working with human beings?

We have perfect models of that in Nazi medical experiments. The prisoners were going to die anyway, why not experiment on them for the good of medicine and the expansion of scientific knowledge? Hurting people will be helped, right? Thankfully the Nuremberg Doctors’ Trial came to a different conclusion about such a utilitarian view of any human being.

What makes our country great is its protection of the underdog, the minority, the voiceless, and the powerless, not their exploitation. The ends do not justify lethal means.

By: MomsHugs

MomsHugs — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:54:19 +0000

Well said, Kimberly! If this bill becomes law, total legal costs of Constitutional challenges will be staggering. It should be subjected to a cost-benefit analysis before being debated. Its legislative proponents would yell the loudest if HHS were to ask for a like amount to fund the needs of children already in foster care. Their so-called ‘compassion’ is misplaced.

MomsHugs (Eve) [http://momshugs.blogspot.com]

By: Kimberly

Kimberly — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 21:26:44 +0000

How sad that the people in this state who are determined NOT to use the brains God gave them organize so strongly to oppose those who do.

Living children in Georgia suffer from lack of medicine, nutritious food, or quality education. Sick people in Georgia pray to the SAME God, every day, for the scientists seeking cures to their misery. Yet these brave soldiers unite to protect frozen clumps in a jar while ignoring the needs of people.

Really.