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Stacey_RunCrimsonRun

April 17th, 2010
10:59 am

Luv’d hearing your story and look forward to keeping up with you until the big PRR day. This will be my 1st one if I get in!! (still waiting on the finally answer from the lottery Haha).

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Cathy Wright

April 19th, 2010
3:30 pm

I am such a groupie! This is wonderful! I love it and I’m so proud!!!

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Jennifer

April 19th, 2010
9:31 pm

I’ll be happy to read your training plans for novice runners! Great first post. I’ll check back for more.

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Tosha

April 20th, 2010
9:41 am

Can’t wait to read more!

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Lauren Dang

April 21st, 2010
6:59 am

I’m excited to read your blog! Maybe I’ll train from a distance with your helpful tips.

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J.LU!

April 21st, 2010
10:12 am

L-Boogie – this is the BOMB.COM.

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Annette

April 21st, 2010
10:15 am

I thought I’d try the intermediate training plan from Cool Running, as this will be my 5th 10K, and my most recent 10K was a PR. But 35 mpw seems a little excessive for an intermediate runner, no? I didn’t train with that volume for my half marathon!

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LaurenD

April 21st, 2010
10:58 am

Annette – 35 miles a week is not a necessary volume. It will work for folks looking for a challenge, or for people who inherently love big mileage (I am one of those weirdos).

The nice thing about these plans is the flexibility. That plan could work nicely even if you alter it. Consider cross training or taking Thursday off completely, lowering Friday’s mileage by 2m a week, and cross training on Saturday. But note that the Cool Running intermediate plan builds to 35 mpw MAX. The other weeks have less mileage.

And check out this intermediate plan too – http://www.halhigdon.com/10ktraining/10kinter.htm. It’s a great one that builds in a little speed work, while keeping total weekly mileage lower. I think the Cool Running’s intermediate plan is a step tougher than Higdon’s intermediate one. Just find one that works for you!

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dan chapman

April 23rd, 2010
10:27 am

i’ve a 3-miler in Candler Park with some “fun” hills. I challenge you, sir, to a race!

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1347

April 23rd, 2010
11:55 am

Shin Spints are killing me… Any suggestions????

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JCR

April 23rd, 2010
12:30 pm

I don’t think 35 mpw is excessive for an inermediate runner.

This is all depends on how serious you are about this. You want to complete the 10k without feeling like you are going to die – beginner plan. You have completed a few 10k’s, now you are paying attention to the clock and want to drop your personal best – intermediate. You want to start right behind the Africans – advanced plan. This takes more than a couple months of training, unless you are already young and fit.

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Patrick

April 23rd, 2010
12:38 pm

If you really want a challenge, head to the Chattahoochee National Park off of Columns Drive. You can run by the river….or take the real challenge. The trail itself is a three-mile loop. As an alternative, you can run along Columns Drive, until you get to Riverlook Pkwy. Then try to run up the hill for a finisher. I need my Jeep just to get up the hill, so it would definitely prepare you for the Peachtree.

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bigdogears

April 23rd, 2010
12:39 pm

I run on Emerald Drive along the shore of Lake Spivey in Clayton County. As summer inches closer and the weather gets hot the course is almost completely covered by a canopy of trees which makes for a more comfortable run. It also helps me save energy for the continued onslaught of hills.

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Mike

April 23rd, 2010
1:32 pm

This year is my fourth Peachtree; last year, with everyone timed, I think I came in 40,000th. (There were only about 50,000 timed runners; I guess the other 5,000 were t-shirt grabbers who cut in.)

I’ve been doing 3.1 miles three days a week, and so far I’m at the same pace as last year. Sunday is ten weeks to the peachtree. I plan to use some form of Hal Higdon’s plan to build up the stamina and speed so I can finish with a much better time.

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BML1020

April 23rd, 2010
1:38 pm

Try the Zumba stockings for shin splints

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bigdogears

April 24th, 2010
10:00 am

I’m not a pollen sufferer but I still try to avoid running on those days when it fills the air. I’ve got a treadmill in my basement that I use often, especially on really cold days. I’ve also taken to open water swimming. The pollen will sometimes pool of the lake surface but it sure beats breathing it into your lungs and swimming gives my legs time to recover. All that said, you can’t substitute a run outside on a nice spring day.

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Lauren

April 25th, 2010
10:23 am

I couldn’t agree more. We’ve been biding our time through the coldest, rainiest winter we’ve had in a long time. I’ve been looking forward to the big blue skies and 70 degree spring weather runs way too much to let the pollen get in the way. Definitely want to enjoy our spring before the 90 degree, 80% humidity descends on us!

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KT

April 27th, 2010
7:03 am

A guy I went to high school with is an avid runner. Every day he’s running 10+ miles preparing for the next marathon. He had posted something on his Facebook wall about purchasing the best new running sneakers. They were Nike and I’ve never been a fan of Nike.I researched the shoe, looked at reviews and I went to the Nike Store at Lenox to check them out. As soon as I slipped on the first one, I was hooked! It fit my foot like a glove. They are Nike Lunar Glide+. The + allows you to put a type of chip in your shoe so you can track your miles. I paid $100 for them and they have been well worth the money. Although everyone’s foot and running style is different which is why there are so many running shoes on market, but I would recommend checking out the Nike Lunar Glide+.

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Zenith

April 27th, 2010
9:29 am

In high school circa 198…something, I ran in Nike Airs or whatever I could find. In my adult years, I regularly chose Asics. The brand-new shoe felt the same as my broken-in pair, but with the added comfort of new padding. In recent years, a friend of mine suggested a pair of Mizunos. I bought a pair and haven’t looked back since. They are a little more expensive than the Asics, but you can sometimes find them on sale at Dick’s Sporting Goods. It’s good to know that if I can’t find a pair of Mizunos on sale, that I can always fall back to the Asics for a while.

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iRun

April 27th, 2010
9:07 pm

iRun in a pair of Mizuno Wave Riders (for a neutral gait). I LURVE them! They don’t squeeze my foot anywhere (I have a wide toe spread) and they’re not cumbersome. They’re not for everyone, though. I hear a lot of Asics people say they can’t wear Mizunos…must be each brand fits a certain foot shape.

I have tried others…go to Big Peach and try on the neutral shoes and always come home with the Mizunos. I even tried the Nike Lunar series and found they were too tight around the forefoot…and too bouncy. I don’t like that. Felt like I was running on a trampoline. I like to forget my shoe is on my foot and the Mizunos give me that.

As for mileage…I usually trade out before 400miles. I’m not a lightweight runner so I feel like the padding breaks down fast. and when it breaks down all in my hot spots then I end up with bruised feet.

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Benson

April 27th, 2010
10:22 pm

Shoes are key. My first Peachtree was run in a $10 pair of Nikes from the bargain bin – I finished in 75 minutes and couldn’t run for three weeks. I’m on something like my 6th and 7th pairs of Saucony Pro-Grids and I’m hoping they will see me to a 48-minute finish this year. The real secret, though, is to head to a place like Big Peach (my go-to shoe store) or Phidippides where they can tell you what kind of runner you are (over/under pronator) and will let you test drive the five or six pairs of shoes that fill the bill. I trade shoes around 350 miles, but YMMV (literally).

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bigdogears

April 28th, 2010
1:36 am

I’ve been a New Balance wearer since I bought my first pair before Army basic training in 1982. Last year I bought my first pair on Asics and they’ve been fine. The most important thing this is the correct fit and the type of shoe for your foot. I recently bought a new pair of New Balance 758’s. They’ll be my shoes for the Peachtree because they’re almost 2 oz. lighter per shoe than my Asics GT-2140’s. Don’t overlook your socks. They can be almost as important as your shoes, if you choose to wear them.

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Bryan

April 28th, 2010
8:50 am

Mizuno, Mizuno, Mizuno!!!!! I have been running in the Mizuno Inspire(support) since they were put on the market. 1 full, 2 half’s and about 25 miles a week and I’m still a fan. Make sure you know what foot type you have before buying. Runnersworld.com has the directions for the “wet test” to see what type of arch you have. Remember, don’t look at your watch as you cross the finish line:)

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amquinta

April 28th, 2010
9:36 am

Columns Drive is awesome but go up Soap Creek for a real challenge at the Hooch

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Daniel Norton

April 28th, 2010
11:44 am

There are few things that can be more rejuvenating than an watch-free run. Even in the middle of a brutal training cycle, I’ll make time for a completely unplugged run where I leave behind the watch, iPod, and even my cellphone. It reminds me that I run simply because I love running.

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JSD

April 28th, 2010
3:02 pm

bare foot you bunch of wimps

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Mike

April 28th, 2010
3:04 pm

I’m trying to visualize the northwest corner of your three-mile run. It looks like it’s taking you onto the on-ramp of the Buford Highway Connector, which passes over the corner of Peachtree Circle and Spring Street, where you’re supposed to turn.

Personally, when I’m not on the treadmill, I go down Peachtree from Lenox to Wesley and back – it’s four miles, and it’s uphill all the way back, which helps for going past Piedmont Hospital on the big day.

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Atlive

April 28th, 2010
3:29 pm

I agree with dan chapman… the hills in Candler park are “fun”. i.e. mary lin hill and the hill on the opposite side of the golf course.

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colin

April 28th, 2010
3:53 pm

2 things that helped me massively

1. Suffered from shin splints (interior) for 3+ years, got superfeet inserts and changed my stride a little = no more shin splints. No “super motion control” shoe came anywhere close to the arch support I get from green superfeet, I would argue there isn’t a shoe on the market with actual arch support.

2. Get 2 pairs of shoes. It sounds like a sales pitch, but there’s 2 reasons: (1) your lower leg muscles will be worked slightly differently in each pair, which will strengthen them/help prevent injury (2) it takes foam/cushioning in shoes about 24 hours to recover after a decent run. If you run on the same pair within say 12 hours, the shoes ability to absorb impact will be compromised somewhat (hello injury).

to anyone saying run barefoot, have any elite runners ever trained barefoot, let alone run a race barefoot? So…

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Kath

April 28th, 2010
4:11 pm

I stronlgy believe in cross training. I am a long distance half marathoner and started cycling, swimming and strength training several years ago and am now a much better athelete in all these areas.

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John McCosh

April 28th, 2010
7:05 pm

@Mike – I get very close to the ramp to the Connector, but not quite there. I run north on Peachtree Street from Twelfth until I get to Peachtree Circle and then I make a right into Ansley Park. If I kept running straight, I would soon be at the entrance to the Connector.

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Reid in EAV

April 29th, 2010
8:13 am

My training routine during the week is pretty treadmill-friendly, so particularly in the winter I do a lot of training runs (intervals, tempo runs, even recovery runs) on the ‘mill. But I always do the weekend long runs outside, without exception, usually at the crack of dawn on Saturday mornings.

This was my first winter of truly sticking to that, and what I discovered was that once you get past the first mile or so, as long as you’re dressed properly (hat, gloves and some good wicking core insulation are essential) running in the winter is FANTASTIC! There’s never a worry about overheating, you don’t need nearly as much hydration and the contrast between sweaty effort and cold temps reminds me of my other favorite outdoor activity, skiing. (I even got in a run in the ice and slush just past Christmas, when many others — even some local running clubs — were calling off their runs for the day.)

On the contrary, runs in the heat and humidity are completely miserable. The sweat has no place to go, you need a gallon of water, and the discomfort is palpable. Give me 25F any day.

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LaurenD

April 29th, 2010
8:51 am

2009’s weather was pretty terrific. Getting on MARTA around 6:30 was *almost* chilly – a pretty confusing experience for Atlanta in July! I think it buoyed my slack training and got me to Piedmont Park faster than I deserved. :)

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Daniel Norton

April 29th, 2010
1:42 pm

I agree with Kath. Cross training has made a tremendous difference in my running performance and overcoming injuries. If nothing else, I think that all runners should include some core strengthening exercises in their weekly schedule – lunges, side leg lifts, squats, planks. Strengthening your core will stabilize your hips and legs and reduces the likehood of over-use injuries like ITBS as well as improving running form. Plus, for people like us who don’t like the gym, you can do most core exercises at home with no more equipment than a yoga mat.

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limewire

April 30th, 2010
6:35 am

dang cool stuff man.

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Glen

April 30th, 2010
8:08 am

I don’t like any of them. They are too busy. the top one looks like ’60s drug shirt, but the words get lost. The second one’s design doesn’t relate to anything. The third one unfortuantely looks like someone bending over. The fourth one is too busy. And the last one loses it because the wording is so weird.

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Mel White

April 30th, 2010
11:13 am

Wow! 1982 was the first year I volunteered, at the water stop near the 4 mile mark. The volunteers’ shirt design was the same except it also had ‘volunteer’ below the design and was blue. Still have mine somewhere. Haven’t cared for the designs in recent years; they all look so similar. Maybe you should get the kids who design the Peachtree Jr shirts to to this one, too.

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jeffv

April 30th, 2010
12:37 pm

I truly love the Peachtree, and run it every year since 94 for the sheer fun of the event, and of course the Tshirt. I prefer the shirts are always white, and I want the design to be Atlanta and patriotic, but in the end I want the T-shirt, which I only wear once a year, the day of the race

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LaurenD

April 30th, 2010
1:02 pm

Mel – Were you at the water station by the Peachtree Christian church and the Jewish temple? Just after the 4 mile mark? That’s my old stomping ground! My mom’s good friend Susan Montgomery started heading up that station while she worked at Coke sometime between 1980-1982. I was actually “volunteering” there myself starting in 1983 (as much filling of cups as one can do when they stand 2.5′ tall and wear the volunteer shirt like a dress).

I really do wish shirt designers would come up with something simpler in the future!

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bigdogears

May 2nd, 2010
8:41 am

I recommend not wearing cotton socks. They’re too rough and give me a blister. This is especially bad during the Peachtree where you’re likely to get your shoes wet. The Road Runner Sports website has a really good shoe size chart. Even if plan to buy your shoes at a retail store it’s nice to know before hand that you’ll need a certain width, size, and type of shoe. Get your bare foot wet and step on a dry piece of paper to check your arch.

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Naomi

May 3rd, 2010
12:47 pm

I was considering backing out of our run today. But after this post, I guess I don’t have any excuses! :)

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Kirsten

May 5th, 2010
9:02 am

Sweetwater Creek State Park remains my favorite, with Kennesaw Mountain a close second. Only started running in ‘08, and quickly got on the trails. I love them! Even did our own SweetH2O Sweetheart Half Marathon this past February 13th out at Sweetwater. Yes, the day after all that snow. Sweetwater was absolutely beautiful that day. If you haven’t checked out what we affectionately call TOTW (Top of the World), which is outside of the actual park, but accessed from the white trail, do so. It’s quite a challenge!

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LaurenD

May 5th, 2010
9:41 am

Kirsten I must admit… TOTW definitely got the best of me the one and only time I have run at Sweetwater. At this year’s Sweeth2o 50k I had the pleasure (PAIN) of running the TOTW rollercoaster out and back… twice! It has a way of humbling an over enthusiastic trail runner, no?

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Kirsten

May 5th, 2010
9:51 am

Oh you ran it? Then you saw my girls and I, we were at the water station that you passed 4 times going out to TOTW and coming back!

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Kirsten

May 5th, 2010
9:53 am

Great time in the 50K, by the way! Yep, I’m one of the Rogues, looking at my first ultra this fall, and am running the PRR this year with both my girls.

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LaurenD

May 5th, 2010
10:16 am

THANK YOU for working at the aid stations – all you volunteers were amazing and really the highlight of that race for me!

If you love trails and mileage you should definitely do an ultra this fall. I was scared at first, but now I think they are easier and more fun than road marathons. If you haven’t picked one out, I highly recommend Stump Jump put on by Rock/Creek in Chattanooga. Awesome course, fantastic people, amazing aid, great swag – so much fun!

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Kirsten

May 5th, 2010
12:39 pm

Stump Jump is on my radar, maybe next year. Quite a few Rogues are doing it this year. I was looking at a low-key 24 Hour Ultra in NC, Hinson Lake. Then GUTS does either the Pine Mountain 40 mile, or Pumpkin Butt 50K (leaning towards Pumpkin Butt, how can I not?!?!).

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Annette

May 6th, 2010
8:46 am

I actually like the start wave placement, because it allows those of us who haven’t run a 10K in under 55 minutes to still avoid starting in the back of the pack. In the past I have been randomly assigned to group 4 and group 9, and there is a big difference. This year, I submitted a 10K time of 57 minutes and hope to be somewhere in the middle of the pack.

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Steven

May 6th, 2010
9:29 am

I’m excited about starting wave placement. I have a subseed time, but my time would be good enough for top seeding in other catagories (masters, etc.). Just motivates me to run faster for a top seed next year. I think the wave placement will bring back the “race” to more runners. After all this is the Boston (Marathon) of the 10K. Cannot wait!!!

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Stephen

May 6th, 2010
10:00 am

I’m also a fan of the Start Wave Placement. Last year was my first Peachtree and I started in Group 8. It was hot, humid and I had to weave my way amongst other runner/walkers for 6.2 miles. It was more ordeal than race (a fun ordeal nonetheless!).

I submitted a time that puts me in Wave A (needless to say it was another race result than last year’s Peachtree), and I’m looking forward to more of a “race” this year.

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bigdogears

May 6th, 2010
3:34 pm

I’m a big fan of the wave start too! The wave start favors those folks that run more than just one race each year. When all is said and done it is a race, isn’t it? I submitted a time for Group A placement but was subseeded once – long ago.

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Joy

May 7th, 2010
11:19 am

Great post! Running in front of the spinal center every year is such a highlight. Even those years I feel pretty strong and don’t need to run on the right hand side because of slowness I always work my way over to the right so I can greet the patients as best I can, often fighting back tears of thankfulness. These are the types of post I hope to have on my new blog http://www.mytrainingbra.com – official launch tomorrow – date of the 20th Anniversary Atlanta Susan G. Komen Race for the Cure.

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nora

May 8th, 2010
6:59 pm

I’ve actually used similar thoughts to motivate myself when I’m running. I focus on how I am able to run and remind myself that everyone can’t do that. Not just because of horrific accidents or paralyzing illnesses, but also because of less serious conditions that can hinder a person’s ability to run. I’m not a top athlete or a great runner, but I can run and I’m grateful that my body is healthy enough to do it.

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Steve

May 10th, 2010
5:13 pm

Bring back the ‘82 design. Now THAT’S a good looking shirt!

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Jim

May 11th, 2010
7:45 am

I have shirts going back to ‘87. The old ones I used to wear all the time. But eventually I decided I would wear the shirt for one year following the race and then rotate it out when I got the new one. I did see where someone had stitched together their old shirts as a quilt, which I may do someday.

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Joy

May 11th, 2010
10:13 am

It depends on the shirt, if I like the design and the color I’ll wear it more. Also it depends on if I get into the finish in time to still get a small. I hope to make a quilt too, someday.

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marilyn

May 11th, 2010
10:45 am

By the time I get to the finish line, the only ones left fit like a night gown. Could never figure out why they ask us for a size, but pay no attention to it.

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bigdogears

May 11th, 2010
3:12 pm

The shirt doesn’t do much for me. I want to get my name in the paper. The day after the race the AJC has printed a full page of names and city/state of race finishers. That’s my goal!

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Julie

May 11th, 2010
6:03 pm

I had an ex-neighbor of mine put together old Peachtree shirts from my dad and I on a quilt and I love it! I won’t be running this year bc I will be at the beach…I am going to miss this year the tradition of running and then passing out on the couch or by the pool. The tshirts are just a badge of honor in my family.

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Elizabeth

May 11th, 2010
7:13 pm

I’ve never liked to wear the t-shirts. It isn’t because I’m afraid to get them dirty or because I hold them to be “sacred”. I simply don’t like the way they fit. They are so thick and are always too long on me. Wish they were Hanes brand instead.

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Gary

May 11th, 2010
7:28 pm

I love laughing at the idiots wearing their shirts for the fireworks at lenox. Congratulations you just finished a race that 50,000 other people finished, but you decided to wear your new shirt. You are like the guys who wear a bands shirt to the concert. At what point did getting up at 4am to run become a part of the 4rth of July tradition. Frankly, I have more respect for the folks sleeping in. The worst are the folks who almost never run but decide they are going to do this. I know there are real runners. The top 1000 folks who train year round and consider this one of many events they will compete in. They rest of the fools just want the shirt. I can’t believe the police effort, traffic conjestion, tv coverage, and overall pain in the a$$ we are willing to create to give a bunch of idiots a t-shirt. The folks in the top 400 are home before half of bums in this thing are even finished. I can’t imagine a dumber way to spend a hot summer holiday morning. I am guessing these are the same folks that camp out for thanksgiving shopping. If you convince them it is a tradition they will keep doing it. Ba Hum bug

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Price

May 11th, 2010
8:28 pm

I like mine because big fat lazy people who eat bon bons and watch Oprah can’t buy one.

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LaurenD

May 11th, 2010
8:32 pm

Fortunately one of the greatest things about our great nation is the freedom to choose our own traditions. What better way to honor our freedoms on our nation’s birthday than choosing our own way of celebrating it? Who is anyone to judge what traditions we engage in to celebrate a holiday? I am of the opinion that our nation should focus more on healthy hobbies – thus I think getting the masses excited about a fun run like the Peachtree is a fabulous tradition. (But I’m also one of the nuts that doesn’t consider my Thanksgiving complete unless I begin it with a half marathon tour of Atlanta). Though a “serious” runner, I support folks who are generally non runners doing something healthy for themselves. Besides the t-shirt, we earn that hamburger and that beer we’ll enjoy later.

My friend… you must not be running enough – a runner’s high might just make you feel better. :)

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Ted Striker

May 11th, 2010
9:05 pm

Cool article. Thanks.

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Grumpy

May 11th, 2010
9:34 pm

I run every year. And I wear the shirt. But I don’t run for the shirt. I run so I can drink beer and eat wings at 9am that day at Taco Mac, and not feel guilty about it.

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iRun

May 12th, 2010
12:02 am

1347,

Re shin splints. Often caused by running form. Do you land on your heel? Try to land towards the front of your foot. To do this, lean slightly forward so that you feel like you need to put your foot down to keep from falling. You will put your foot down on the ground, just about beneath your hips. You will keep your knee slightly flexed and will not straighten it out. Once your foot touches the ground, quickly pick it up again.

By landing towards the front of your foot you “save” your shins and instead utilize the function of your arches, which flex with the force of impact. Think leaf springs on a car. The “rebound” from that flex gives you energy in the push off. If you land on your heel, you must roll your foot forcefully to push off, which puts a lot more work on your shins (ie, tibialis anterior).

Additionally, by landing towards the front of your foot you land with a flexed knee, which protects the joint because the force of impact is translated into the thigh muscles and not the joint.

Now, if you normally land on your heel and want to change your form, just run slowly and focus on landing with your feet under your hips, towards the front (but not on the toes). Foot turnover, or cadence, should be high and stride length should be short.

Best of luck!

Oh, and yes, the hills in Candler Park are fun – Benning St between Euclid and Oakdale, Candler Park drive heading south past Mary Lin, head south on any of Candler, Stirling, or Euclid Terr. And east on Clifton Terrace.

A good 3 mile loop is to start on PATH at the northwest end of Candler Park, head east on PATH through Candler Park, continue east on Clifton Terrace, then north on Clifton, hop on the bike path (not part of PATH, I don’t think, but nice) and head west. Continue west on this bike path, crossing over Fairview/Lullwater, Oakdale, and Springdale. Head south on Moreland, cross over North Ave. Then head east again on PATH through Freedom Park until you get back to your starting point (you will cross over Euclid and Oakdale Rds, remaining on PATH).

This is a nice route. The only obstacle may be crossing North Ave….you may have to wait for a light, or you can just go east on North until you can dash across, then head back to the start of PATH. It might add a bit of distance but, hey, it’s training!

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iRun

May 12th, 2010
9:33 am

Whoops, I tried to post but it seems to have gotten stuck.

Anyway, Kirsten, if you ever come back here I’d love to go on a training run with you sometime, either Sweetwater (you can take me to TOTW) or Kennesaw. I’m a new runner since 2008, too, with one full road marathon behind my belt, though I’ve covered 50K once before. But I’d love to do some trails with someone with a bit of experience. If you’re interested, perhaps Lauren can give you my email (if it’s visible to her)? Just FYI: I’m a 35 year old female, and live near L5P.

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Reid in EAV

May 12th, 2010
10:18 am

LCD Soundsystem, Michael Franti, Robert Randolph, Bloc Party, The Juan Maclean, some OutKast (Rosa Parks, Church, Bowtie, So Fresh, So Clean), Goldfrapp, Chemical Brothers, The Crystal Method…

Basically the BPMs have to be pretty high, or it bogs me down rather than propelling me.

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Reid in EAV

May 12th, 2010
10:18 am

And Muse. Definitely Muse.

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Kirsten

May 12th, 2010
11:51 am

Ahhh, Lauren, another blog that “moves” me. Music is important in my life as well, simply because I’m a music junkie and have been since I was little. When I started running two years ago, I was running on a treadmill, so having my iPod was great. Since I’ve moved to outdoor running and away from a treadmill, I rarely listen to music when I run. Biggest reason is because I am usually running with others. I too do not wear them during races, but I think that rule/common sense (along with the slower runners/walkers staying to the right), seems to get thrown out the window by those who do what they want no matter what.

Here’s a couple playlists I had when I first started running:

) Must Be the Water ~ Marc Broussard
2) I’m a Man ~ Los Lonely Boys
3) Shattered (Turn the Car Around) ~ O.A.R.
4) On My Way ~ INXS
5) Mercy ~ Duffy
6) Roam ~ B-52’s
7) I Kissed a Girl ~ Katy Perry
8) One Week ~ BNL
9) Twice As Hard ~ The Black Crowes
10) Hell Yeah ~ Montgomery Gentry
11) Thrill of It ~ Robert Randolph
12) Silent Lucidity ~ Queensryche

1. Far Behind – Candlebox
2. Enter Sandman – Metallica
3. California Love – 2Pac
4. Best of You – Foo Fighters
5. Freedom 90 – George Michael
6. Somehow, Somewhere, Someday – Kenny Wayne Shepherd
7. Willie the Wimp – SRV and Double Trouble
8. Better When You’re Not Here – Vertical Horizon
9. Who Wants to Live Forever – Queen
10. She’s So California – Gary Allan
11. Wonderwall – Oasis

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nora

May 12th, 2010
8:21 pm

Okay, this is it, Roswell Area Park off Woodstock Rd. It is a beautiful, shady park with a mostly dirt trail, mile markers, and a few rolling hills to give your run a little challenge. The main loop is 3.1 miles and it is a very scenic path which even includes a duck pond. Because of the shade it is always several degrees cooler than anywhere else I can run and the dirt trails are much kinder to the legs than concrete sidewalks. I’ve been running in the Roswell/Marietta area for 15 years and this is my hands down favorite place to run. It has got to be one of the best 3 mile runs in the Atlanta area.

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Jenny

May 13th, 2010
8:03 am

Nothing gets me more fired than seeing those idiots with the Fur Bus and their big tailgate… its the only thing that gets me up cardiac hill!

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oldschooldog

May 13th, 2010
8:10 am

Legs and posteriors.

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Slade

May 14th, 2010
10:19 am

The calendar showed me we have 7 weeks until Peachtree. I want a sub 38:00 to keep my sub-seeded number and that is what is pushing me. Like you, I put fun races on my calendar for the rest of the year and don’t want the “qualifier” to be hanging over my head.

I have found that running my route backwards helps with the monotony and reenergizes my drive.

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Daniel Norton

May 14th, 2010
10:26 am

I had a very similar experience recently. I have a lot of friends on dailymile.com who are pretty much on my level. However, while I was battling a bout of ITBS leading up to my last marathon, a couple of them really ramped up their training and ran unbelievable races that put them out of my league. Now, I’m working to get back to where I was before the injury, and they are still improving. It’s tough to balance wanting your friends to succeed and wanting to be on a competitive level with them without overdoing your own training.

To avoid frustration, I’ve had to learn to accept where I am and find satisfaction in small improvements. Improving my 4 mile tempo run from 28:45 to 28:20 in a week is a win. It’s not where I think I could be, but it’s closer.

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Michael Knox

May 14th, 2010
6:39 pm

I look forward every year to hearing the Breeze Kings. Could there be a cooler name for a band?

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Andrew

May 14th, 2010
6:45 pm

The crowds are awesome , pushed me more, hope to see them this year!

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Jen

May 14th, 2010
7:11 pm

Just want to add that Poe does some long songs that keep me interested, moving and oblivious of the clock. Also, try Ceelo, Violent Femmes, Mary Prankster, Architecture in Helsinki, Misfits, MIA, Circle Jerks and TLC. Great suggestions from everyone, keep ‘em coming!!!

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Jesse

May 14th, 2010
8:53 pm

I was running in trail-running shoes and had some knee pain from a previous cycling injury. My doctor said that I would only be able to run on flat surfaces, and then only for short distances. I bought a pair of professionally-fitted $100 running shoes with strong support for my pronation. I took them home and ran up a hill, and made it about 200 feet before the pain was unbearable. I stumbled upon a website about barefoot running, and gave it a try (not barefoot at first, but with shoes with absolutely no support). After learning how to run barefoot (land on the ball, not the heel) and going through some growing pains as my calves and arches and ankles got stronger, I can run every day now, up and down any hill. I feel stronger, lighter, and more connected with the ground. My feet love being free and allowed to do what they were made to do: provide sensory data, strength, and stability. And now I don’t “jog” down the street, thumping on my heels; I glide along the pavement, caressing the earth on nature’s running shoes. You never have to replace them, and they only get stronger with age. It may not be for everyone, but I recommend looking into it, whether you are suffering from a running injury or simply want stronger, more natural feet, ankles, and legs. Running should be a smooth and delicate exercise. But either way, the most important thing is to enjoy yourself; see you on Peachtree!

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linda Wright

May 14th, 2010
11:22 pm

This is my first Peachtree Race, Very excited, but a little concern about cardiac HIll

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Monica

May 15th, 2010
7:12 am

The “little old ladies” waving flags – I get choked up! Hard to cry and run!

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Joe Dunn

May 15th, 2010
12:50 pm

Can anyone recommend a store to shop for running shoes as I’m a novice to running? I do a ton of walking and cycling but, I’ve not run in years…

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Bill

May 16th, 2010
10:09 am

It is good to have benchmarks, comparisons and personal goals for motivation. At the same time, ask yourself, what are the negative consequences if I don’t reach them? There really aren’t any. Unless you are truly among the elite, most of us run for fitness and fun; and to test ourselves. Remember why you are doing this. If you don’t reach your goal, is your health negatively affected? Only if you stress about it, otherwise it is a win.

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Tricia

May 16th, 2010
10:50 am

Just trying to stick to my training plan and know that the hardwork I put in today, will eventually pay off.

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timm

May 16th, 2010
11:20 am

the bands are a great distraction…love running church row and getting a blessing…wish we had more bells ringing or playing music as well… this year the run is on Sunday so we will get this as a normal course of the day….The First Presbyterian Church on Peachtree and 16th is great about this and they are not on Church row…

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Daniel Norton

May 17th, 2010
2:20 pm

Wow, you list all of my favorite running books. “Born to Run” completely changed my perception of running shoes and got me into a pair of Vibram Five Fingers for building arch/achilles/calf strength. I don’t recommend going completely barefoot, but I think there are some great benefits to running in minimal shoes.

I also have “The Perfect Mile” on my to-read list, but you can skip “What I Talk About When I Talk About Running.” It’s not a very inspiring book in my opinion.

If we can include actual training books, I loved “Brain Training for Runners” by Matt Fitzgerald.

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Mark

May 17th, 2010
5:05 pm

Feet Fleet does an excellent job at fitting you into the right shoe. Google them for a location near you.

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dagnabit

May 18th, 2010
8:14 am

Railroad Earth is my favorite.

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Aaron

May 18th, 2010
8:48 am

Humans weren’t built to have big, soft “cushiony” shoes. Most of the running injuries are directly related to the plush shoes runners wear.

Man evolved to run barefoot (and not on pavement). If you want to protect your feet from sharp objects, get some Vibram Five Fingers.

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TechMom

May 18th, 2010
9:36 am

Phidippides is a great store too. All the folks who work there are also athletes (mostly runners) and can help you find a great pair of shoes. The best part about going to an actual running shoe store is that you can try on shoe after shoe and really begin to feel the difference. http://www.phidippides.com

That being said (@Jesse), I recently bought a pair of Virbram Five Fingers. I am fairly young and in pretty good shape so I couldn’t figure out why I was having so much hip pain when running other than the fact that it’s not my favorite cardio activity. I started reading about the benefits of barefoot running but I’m not quite ready to take the leap to actually being barefoot. I’m now up to running about 2 1/2 miles in them though I have found that I still prefer to run on the grass/ trail rather than concrete. I plan on trying them out in 5k next weekend. The funny thing is I ran in my regular running shoes last week because I was trying to get in a little further distance and as soon as I started running, I felt like my feet were bricks!

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MrHughes

May 18th, 2010
10:05 am

Joe, I’d recommend going to Phidippides or Big Peach Running Co. I’ve been to both. They do the same thing in terms of checking out your running style and letting you try on tons of shoes in order to determine the best fit. Big Peach does that more of the high tech way with cameras, treadmills, and computers, where Phidippides just watches you run. I bought a pair of shoes at Phidippides about a year ago and love them. I ran my first 5K last August and I’ll be running my first Peachtree this year. Welcome to the running world.

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JOE

May 18th, 2010
10:24 am

Death Metal

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bobby roper

May 18th, 2010
10:35 am

Songs on my play list all have a melody and can be humed or whistled
1 you are my sun shine The Carter family
2 I had rather live by theside of the road Mac Wiseman
3 T he old cross road Bill Monroe
4 This World is Not My Home Stanley Brothers
I never heard any of the songs in your list

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Grumpy

May 18th, 2010
10:35 am

Far

May 18th, 2010
11:13 am

Goldfrapp is a definite… Kylie Minogue, La Roux, Lady Gaga..Any of the super-pop electronic music really keeps me going.

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anonymous coward

May 18th, 2010
7:32 pm

I’ve had problems with my ankles running on the trails near the river – I’ll step on an exposed root or rock and my ankle will fold over and that’s all she wrote for the day. I’ve done that often enough that I tend to stay away from trail running unless it’s something like a fire road or has a more predictable surface.

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bigdogears

May 19th, 2010
7:56 pm

I’m glad you’ve addressed the subject of speed. As I continue to add miles I seem to actually be slowing down. I’ll add runs specifically to improve my speed and hope for the best on race day.

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Richard James

May 20th, 2010
12:56 am

The 1982 PRR was my very first. That shirt is framed and hanging in my home office. The other 23 or 24 are hanging in my office. I have been able to participate almost every year since 1982, and I am also looking forward to this year, although I now walk more than run. But it is now an annual family affair because I am fortunate to have my much younger baby brother in law run/walk with me, just to do the race together. We have enjoyed every shirt we have earned, but I too agree the 1982 is my very favorite. I would love to see it return.

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bigdogears

May 20th, 2010
7:49 am

Along with training for the PRR I’ve been training for a triathlon in the fall. I figured the swimming would help fitness and reduce the pounding on my knees. Well, while trying to put on my wetsuit yesterday morning I pinched a nerve, pulled a muscle or something in my neck. I ran about 4 miles that afternoon but I can’t say that I enjoyed it very much. It’s not always the knees that make you think about staying home!

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running from home

May 20th, 2010
11:41 am

Great article John. Do you still work on cars? Mine needs some attention and I think you might be able to fix it with duck tape! How much was gas back then anyway? Carry on!

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Fred

May 22nd, 2010
5:27 pm

I was in an air cast for 8 weeks for a stress fractured foot on top of a Morton’s neuroma, both very painful. I went down the Peachtree 2 1/2 weeks after I got out of it That was a bad mistake! :( I finished but didn’t run again for over 4 months. Now when I’m hurt, I recognize it.

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May 22nd, 2010
6:00 pm

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marc

May 23rd, 2010
5:45 pm

And where in your list of references of running terms is my all time favorite – “Yasso 800’s”? Never train for a marathon without doing them.

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LaurenD

May 24th, 2010
8:10 am

You got me there… I completely forgot to include that one! Best workout ever. Thanks to you and Naomi (and Bart Yasso of course) those 800s brought me down from a 4:06 to a 3:43!!

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Spelling & Grammar Police

May 24th, 2010
10:35 am

I believe the first quote should read, “…or jump higher than that.” Although the typo is humorous.

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Lauren Dieterich

May 24th, 2010
11:34 am

Hmmm… “jump” would make more sense there. I just assumed it meant “hump” as in the old military term that means to haul, carry, burden, climb mountains, etc. My younger brother is an officer in the Army and they use that term when he has to cover long distances with heavy packs for training exercises.

Alack and alas… each to their own inferences. ;)

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bigdogears

May 25th, 2010
7:58 am

Good choice on the non-cotton socks. I love mine because they’re lighter, don’t absorb water and will significantly reduce my chances of getting blisters. I can’t believe I waited so long to switch!

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dan chapman

May 27th, 2010
10:11 am

We’re on — bring on the rickshaw….

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iRun

May 27th, 2010
6:58 pm

I’m both. It depends on if I feel like just running or if I’m in the mood to bust one wide open. But Candler Park is my hood so when y’all race, let me know. I’ll join you.

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BuzzGT

May 27th, 2010
10:27 pm

I like being with friends before and after a race. But, I much rather be on my own during the race. And I always train on my own. I use my runs as a stress reliever and like to have the entire time to myself.

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The Judge

May 28th, 2010
12:22 am

VERDICT: Get your mind out of the gutter. Lauren is correct. Hump was used in the original quote according to various citations.
http://www.greatest-inspirational-quotes.com/inspirational-running-quotes.html
“We run, not because we think it is doing us good, but because we enjoy it and cannot help ourselves…The more restricted our society and work become, the more necessary it will be to find some outlet for this craving for freedom. No one can say, ‘You must not run faster than this, or hump higher than that.’ The human spirit is indomitable.”Sir Roger Bannister

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Gen Neyland

May 28th, 2010
7:08 am

I train alone. Whether one trains alone or with a partner or group, come 04JUL, you have no choice in the matter unless you’re in clean air and looking over your shoulder. Hint : That person won’t be me…

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Lars

May 28th, 2010
12:46 pm

Thanks for the tips–now can you do one on Race etiquette?

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Lauren Dieterich

May 28th, 2010
12:49 pm

In the works my friend! Stay tuned… “Race Etiquette” will appear sometime in the next couple weeks. Can you believe we’re only 5 weeks away? Exciting!

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marc

May 31st, 2010
6:21 am

I have occasionally seen people running clockwise on the track. The one time I asked the person why he was doing this, he said it balanced the stress on his inside leg on the curves. Maybe it’s OK to run clockwise if the track is not crowded and you stay in the outside lanes?

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Gen Neyland

June 1st, 2010
7:53 am

Agree whole-heartedly with statement we need to expand our running horizons on occassion. For that reason alone, after nearly 20 years on roads, I’ve signed up for my first real off road adventure race (not counting the Dahlonega Ranger Run which I’ve done 3 times now). Looking forward to the event but I habor a twinge of apprehension regarding my ability to slop through slop with the ‘rabbits’…

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LaurenD

June 1st, 2010
8:49 am

I’ve found that getting dirty via trail runs is a purifying experience. My hunch is that you’ll quickly forget the rabbits (concentrating on NOT tripping over roots and rocks will take most of your mental stamina!) and have an absolute blast. What other elements are in that race – paddling, orienteering, obstacles? The best part of adventure races is all the surprises they throw at you!

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LaurenD

June 1st, 2010
8:53 am

I think as long as the track’s not crowded, almost anything is fair game. Personally I have never run so much on a track that I should be concerned about putting uneven stress on my legs. There is a limit to how many circles I can stand running in a week!

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Gen Neyland

June 1st, 2010
1:45 pm

Probably considered a mild-medium event by an expert off roader. It has a mile run segment through a creek, river crossing, rope pull up some hills and a lot of single track from what I hear. A 10 miler. At 56, I wonder if I bit off more than I can chew. Most imortant, I’m shoed up and ready to go. A friend of mine does alot of trail runs in Minnesota. He did roads for years but now favors some of the long endurance trail runs. I figure if he can do it then I can try…

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Lauren Dieterich

June 1st, 2010
3:36 pm

That sounds great! Creek crossings always add a sense of “Lewis and Clark” adventure for those of us who typically call the asphalt jungle home. I love em. Tips – keep your toes pointed up (prevents dragging/catching on roots/logs/rocks) and shorten your stride/take short steps. I wouldn’t worry about it – if you can do 10 miles on the road, you can handle 10 trail miles. Trails are much easier and more forgiving on your joints.

Age is just a number, right? Bravo to you!

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Gen Neyland

June 1st, 2010
7:06 pm

Age is just a number..! Allow me a snicker here. I’ve read that in the 5th decade of life the foundation is laid for the years ahead and the cost is paid for the years behind…As my 80 year old Pa-n-law has said, ‘If I knew I was gonna live this long I’d have taken better care of myelf.’ On to the PRR and best of luck to you…

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Gen Neyland

June 2nd, 2010
11:03 am

My wife volunteers the Peachtree as a Course Marshall. I did it with her one year and found it a terrific experience from a different angle than a runner. I know we can’t thank them all individually but consider this a blanket thanks to all of them. There is a special place in our running heart for the volunteer. Treat them with respect. Also, kudos to the volunteers that round us up, get us on our way and still make the trek up Peachtree to The Park. Those people even get 2 t-shirts..!

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Lauren

June 4th, 2010
9:40 am

Aside from the fact we have the same name, this post is eerily creepy and truthful. I swear I had this exact same conversation (more or less) with MYSELF. Slacker-dom, exhaustion, adjustment to warmer temps, WORK, BAD WORK DAYS and the bottle of wine waiting for me when I get home, etc. All of these things collaborate against me in my training endeavors. Admission is the first step, but moving on from it is the next. How does one break the cycle???

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Lauren Dieterich

June 4th, 2010
10:47 am

First impulse is to blame my training partner who is on vacation. But in reality I do something drastic like strand myself somewhere with no mode of transportation other than a bike or running shoes, so it forces me to have a quick attitude change. Ice cream doesn’t help motivate – I did try that one out just to make sure.

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Larry

June 4th, 2010
12:45 pm

Here is a good motivator I use with my twin brother. We are both training for the same races (PTRR and the Marine Corps Marathon), but live 300 miles apart. Since we can’t use peer pressure to actually run together, we both bought those Garmin GPS watches that can upload your run data to a password protected web site. So, we exchanged passwords and can view each other’s run data at any time to keep the pressure on. Of course that doesn’t prevent a certain cheater from strapping the watch on and claiming a bike ride/car ride to be a run…

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Pat21

June 4th, 2010
3:07 pm

I use a training log and plan out my mileage months in advance. I looked through last year’s Peachtree training log and notice I slacked off a little due to vacations, work, injuries, and such. This year I am sticking to my plan and I am noticing in a difference in my 5k and 10k times.

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Gen Neyland

June 4th, 2010
3:38 pm

We all need and benefit from intervention. I’ll sit for a session or two with an adult beverage and somewhere along the line, the guilt creeps in which forces me up the next morning to brave whatever awaits. As a morning runner, night-time runs rarely happen but this I will say : Nothing can beat a midnight run in 20 degree weather crunching along on snow covered, dimly lit pathways with a spritz of snow falling and the lure of a shot o’scotch once back at the shanty…The next best thing is 80 percent humidity at 9 AM and Gatorade a-calling. Right…

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Devildog

June 5th, 2010
2:46 pm

You’ll find attention whores in every endeavor. It’s why I stopped running in the Peachtree, that and the crowds.

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Gen Neyland

June 7th, 2010
10:00 pm

I suffered last week also. After beating myself to a pulp trying to better my 2009 time at the Ranger Run (and failing to do so), I kicked back and cut my time out running time and distance in half. Now it’s time to ready up and forge ahead. This week has hills penciled in. I love the hill w/o’s. Really.

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Gen Neyland

June 9th, 2010
6:58 am

As a rural dweller, I’m fine with training alone. Running with 50 to 55,000 in a race and/or event is plenty group therapy for me. Do like to converse with others though, sharing what we do to get where we’re going. There are people that benefit from group running sessions by keeping their motivation up. Others like the social climate. Still, a few may want to be ‘pushed’ by the group. I benefit from talking with similar minds about anything associated with running, gear, etc…Sharing our best advice, suggestions and encouragement is good enough for me.

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Gen Neyland

June 10th, 2010
10:06 am

Carbo loading rule #1 : Beer does not count as carbo loading. After finishing, beer can be viewed as a fluid replenishing sports beverage. I’ve carbo loaded on beer the night before races and it has never worked to my advantage…Last year I came in at 25,494 overall in about 73 minutes. Ran with a daughter that was running her first 10K distance, ever. Made her stop at all water stations. It may have been my last real fun run in the PRR for a few years to come….My ambition this year is to shave a few minutes off last years time as I will be running at my own pace through the human forest. My under a hour times are but a memory, last done in a PRR, circa 2000. Dang, if I were a Wildebeest, I’d be dinner for the slowest Cheetah nowadays. Slog on…

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lilgoblue

June 10th, 2010
10:23 am

I’ve noticed that sprint workouts, running stairs and strenthening my lower body in general have really help me with my strength and endurance and especially my speed. Boot camp has been great for getting ready because my legs are limber and I have so much more endurance as I pound up those hills.

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matt

June 10th, 2010
10:55 am

Carb loading doesn’t work if you do it the night before. To use the energy from the pasta you’re eating tonight you’d need to run in a few days when you’re body has had time to fully process it all. Head over to Runner’s World (link on left) or do a quick google’ing of it.

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Lauren Dieterich

June 11th, 2010
9:56 am

Beer is by far my favorite replenishment beverage! Not sure that any sports scientists or doctors would agree with me…

John… I don’t think I have ever had my name and the word “elite” uttered in the same sentence before (you are too nice). With the exception of my top-notch carb-loading abilities – thanks for including this picture of me in your post. I love prepping for races by eating pasta and wearing bathing suits and pantyhose.

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Dr. Ortho

June 11th, 2010
2:33 pm

Lauren, I agree with the advice on proper hydration and good socks but also want to throw this bit of information out. Consider walking instead of running. You will still get a tee shirt but will notice far less strain on the feet and joints. It gives you an opportunity to leisurely chat with other participants and get to know them better. Also, the window shopping down Peachtree is far more enjoyable. Hope this helps.

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iRun

June 11th, 2010
3:09 pm

I’ve been heat training since the weather turned in April. I am still running in a long sleeve shirt. It’s a shirt with a lot of mesh on the back and underarms, and down the sides, and it’s made of synthetic moisture wicking material. But it has helped me to acclimate to the heat. In more ways than one, too. I’ve adapted mentally to the heat. Of course, I hydrate a lot, too.

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Daniel Norton

June 11th, 2010
3:53 pm

I think it’s worth pointing out that it’s better to run early in the morning or in the evening when the heat index is lower.

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Gen Neyland

June 11th, 2010
4:24 pm

By mid June, I’m thinking snow crunching in 20 degree weather sounds about right. What extremes we runners love to run in..! I try to do my runs before 1000 hrs all through the year, especially this time of year. I have a park about 3 miles from home that has water. On some of my long runs in the heat and humidity, I’ll plan on cris-crossing the water fountain there.

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Diane

June 11th, 2010
5:50 pm

I love ,love ,love the Peachtree Pub Crawlers especially when they pull up at the stop lights. Too funny !

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Diane

June 11th, 2010
5:57 pm

Saw a guy dressed as a dog in red, white and blue. Wait a minute …it was a dog! Those cute pooches come close to outnumbering the human spectators on some blocks!

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GB

June 11th, 2010
8:02 pm

Have fun, but remember to take into consideration how hot it is bound to be. It would suck to not finish because of your costume.

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Philosopher

June 11th, 2010
8:10 pm

The Peachtree is a fun run and a great way to celebrate what’s great about America. I’ve run it 13 times and I love the crowd, the comraderie,the silly costumes, the music and fans along the way and the purely celebratory atmosphere. And the pub runners are wonderfully funny. Never once in all my years have I heard a negative comment, an angry runner, an impatient bystander or any negative comments at all. How sad to see these folks called “attention whores”…sure glad you no longer run-maybe you just can’t take all that niceness in one place. We won’t miss you!

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Lisa

June 11th, 2010
8:11 pm

My running partner is on vacation too and when my alarm went off at 5:35 am Thursday morning I truly did not want to go running. The only thing that helped me break the “slacker cycle” is I focused solely on how excellent I would feel when I ran back up my driveway at the end of my run. I did and that feeling stayed with all day long. That being said, I am SO happy my running partner returns tomorrow!

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Beth Ali

June 11th, 2010
9:21 pm

This will be my 2nd Peachtree, so I am by far a very inexperienced runner, but I have found that I train best with the majority of my runs during the week are solo and usually 3-4 miles each, with one 6 mile a week, usually with one or more of my friends. Last year I started the peachtree with my friends, but quickly was separated. I don’t plan on “having” to stay with my friends, but if our pace stays together I wont fight hanging with them either!!

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Charles

June 12th, 2010
7:05 am

Typically, I jog from Lenox Road to Piedmont Park three times per week. Then I walk to the MARTA Arts Station behind High Museum for a cool MARTA ride back to the MARTA stop at Lenox and a walk home.

I train alone and run alone. Not because I am anti-social but out of necessity. I am out the door around 5:00 a.m. to take advantage of the cool, crisp morning air and lack of traffic on Peachtree Road at that hour. Also, at 64 years old, I doubt too many would want to run (jog) at my pace of 12-13 minutes miles and stops for nature breaks at the Peachtree Battle Starbucks . Of course, to rehydrate, I have an iced coffee before I head up Cardiac Hill.

Finally, I can’t regulate my breathing if talking while jogging for an easier, more pleasurable jog.

This year, my wife started a walking program to overcome Fibromyalgia. She enjoys it and it has made a difference. She said she would like to walk the Peachtree but didn’t want to do it alone. ALhtough this will be my 7th Peachtree, I have decided to walk it with her rahter than run it alone.

See, you can teach old dogs new tricks.

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bigdogears

June 12th, 2010
8:55 am

I use a Fuel Belt on my long runs. It doesn’t do anything to keep drinks cool but it helps when you know that the nearest functioning water fountain is over 2 miles away.

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Alex

June 12th, 2010
1:34 pm

Lord knows…the water stops..(pant..wheeze..Pant) Thanks Peachtree volunteers !

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Gen Neyland

June 14th, 2010
7:26 am

Went out for an ‘ Early enough I thought ‘ run yesterday. Failed to make scheduled distance due to zapping from the heat index. All the cold, clear water in Lake Superior wouldn’t have saved the run. Shoot, it’s gonna be one of those weeks a-coming…

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Christy

June 14th, 2010
3:22 pm

I’m glad you wrote this….I was feeling like such a baby when the heat and humidity made me like running a little less this weekend. :) This morning at 5a was 78 degrees with 90% humidity – I was most def swimming.

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Gen Neyland

June 15th, 2010
8:20 am

Pacing in the PRR may be dictated by the swell of humanity we start with and encounter along the way. I think the hardest lesson I learned during my first PRR is that the PRR isn’t a race for the overall massess but a celebration of the like-minded. I ran (weaved) probably 7.8 miles to finish under a hour. This years PRR may actually resemble a race for us that submitted times if those that start in front of us keep moving. When pigs fly..? I’ve never been so swift of foot as to be one who ran for the also prized coffee mug, but I do have ambition in this year’s PRR : Finish vertical, shoot for my best and enjoy every step along the way…

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Annette

June 15th, 2010
8:26 am

If you ran 5 miles in 48 minutes, then you are in great shape to do 6.2 in 60 minutes! Of course, it depends mostly on how many people you get stuck behind. Did you submit a qualifying time?

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John McCosh

June 15th, 2010
8:32 am

@Annette, I didn’t submit a qualifying time. Since my last official time was about 75 minutes, that wouldn’t have helped much. Guess I need to add dodging and weaving to my training.

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Annette

June 15th, 2010
12:17 pm

Well, for any other 10K I would say your training would put you in a very good position to finish under 60 min. I trained for my last 10K (Charles Harris) with long runs at a 10:30 pace and finished the race in 57 min.

But the Peachtree is a different story. You’re right about adding dodging and weaving to your training!

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Joy

June 16th, 2010
10:05 am

And don’t forget the Ruth and Ruby, the Crawford twins, in front of PRUMC. Always dressed in their finest patriotic attire. Glad folks stood in for them last year but it wasn’t the same.

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Gen Neyland

June 16th, 2010
9:50 pm

Waking early and heading into the city. Seeing runners heading towards Lennox by so many different routes and means. I appreciate the Waffle House coffee. Always a pre-race favorite. Talking to folks and people watching. Looking for the guy that does the Peachtree with a walker. Seeing my wife volunteering around mile 2. Have run the PRR with 3 of our children. After the PRR, we’ve made a trip to the Varsity a regular event. No guilt here chowing down on a chili dog, rings, a PC and a Peach Pie.

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Andrew

June 17th, 2010
7:41 am

you should try body glide, you can get it at Big Peach Running Co, it works better than vaseline and doesn’t stain your clothes, it’s the #1 selling accessory for runners, oh and it cost about $6 rather than the $1 vaseline

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Roscoe

June 17th, 2010
7:43 am

I notice you aren’t wearing any pants. Maybe that will make you faster; maybe not.

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Gen Neyland

June 17th, 2010
8:08 am

Read anything by George Sheehan. The guy can still motivate us, God rest his soul…

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bigdogears

June 17th, 2010
8:10 am

I’ve bought 3 new pairs of shoes in 2 months. One pair is supposed to be my racing shoes. My postal scale says they’re about 1.5 oz. lighter than my other shoes. Than I bought a pair of shoes that is a half size smaller trying, once again, to go lighter. They were, of course, about half a size to small. My third and latest pair seems perfect to train in. I’ve already got good sock. My next decision to make is what shirt to wear taking into account weather, water and MARTA.

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Lauren Dieterich

June 17th, 2010
8:49 am

The post-race food tradition is a must! When I was younger, we did McDonald’s every year (my poor mother acquiescing to her kids’ true wants). For the last 6 years or so my family and I have hit up a local Atlanta brunch spot like Flying Biscuit, West Egg, or Front Page News. Delicious!

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Lauren Dieterich

June 17th, 2010
9:11 am

BodyGlide will change your life. Best. Invention. Ever. Even if you don’t wear pants.

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John McCosh

June 17th, 2010
1:01 pm

OK, I bought some BodyGlide during my lunch hour. I hope this stuff is as great as everyone says. Now I don’t have enough for the pants.

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Gen Neyland

June 17th, 2010
1:58 pm

The great thing about BodyGlide is that it is so aerodynamically efficient, nobody will even notice you might not be wearing pants as you’ll be but a blur streaking up Peachtree…Also water repellent, kinda like Rain X. Dang expensive stuff, ain’t it..?

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Mike

June 17th, 2010
6:59 pm

It’s always good to see the pastor of St. Phillip’s with the holy water, and Max Cleland.

There used to be twin sisters who would wear patriotic costumes and wave to the runners in front of Peachtree UMC. They’ve both passed on, but last year the church had a huge poster with a life-size picture of them from a prior year in their memory. I thought that was really sweet.

What’s not really sweet, of course, is getting passed by a guy whose race number is from a group that hasn’t even left the gate yet…

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bigdogears

June 18th, 2010
8:00 am

With all this talk about Body Glide there must be a whole lot a chafing goin’ on! That shouldn’t be the case. Maybe you should try a different running shirt or shorts, if you choose to wear them.

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Q

June 18th, 2010
8:02 am

This is my first Peachtree and I have been training on a course near my house but I want to run the Peachtree course this weekend. Are there sidewalks from Buckhead to Midtown?

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John McCosh

June 18th, 2010
8:06 am

There are sidewalks on both sides of Peachtree the whole way. The construction wall I wrote about has been moved off the sidewalk and there is now a clear path there. The main hold up is crossing the big intersections, especially at Piedmont.

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Lauren Dieterich

June 18th, 2010
9:09 am

The right shirt and shorts can still chafe in adverse conditions – when you’re sweatier than normal, when you’re running through fire hydrant or holy water sprinklers, or when running (for me) longer than 12 miles.

Also as the lone woman commenting here, allow me to ahem… note something. There are certain anatomical reasons I need Bodyglide. It’s not the wrong shirt or shorts, but the fact that I have to wear a sports bra. Wow… don’t you just love being an athlete? Modesty flies right out the window!

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Gen Neyland

June 18th, 2010
12:33 pm

And Neil Young sang, ‘It’s better to burn out than it is to rust’. We put to much emphasis on routine. Routines get disrupted. Then we feel pressed to squeeze it all in. Usually disruption wins, routines lose.

Recall reading a well known running author saying that as he was heading down the stairs to go out for a morning run one weekend day, he smelled bacon frying and knew his wife had breakfast plans for the two of them. He turned around, changed his clothes and cancelled the days run…Sometimes it’s best to stop and smell the bacon frying.

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bigdogears

June 19th, 2010
9:34 am

I don’t understand! Why does your mother want you to eat an elephant? How many calories are in your average sized elephant any way? How many lunches could you make if you cut up this undoubtedly delicious elephant into lunch sized portions? Maybe if you eat some of the elephant and shared the rest you’d be better off! Sharing the elephant, that’s the answer!

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Kenny

June 20th, 2010
9:20 am

Hello, Peachtree Race looking forward to it… I’v been running a year this past june 5th. If you wear the right clothing, that absorbes sweat, you don’t need body glide . I cut the liner out of my shorts and wear spandex boxer briefs, they not only give great support, but also helps keep your muscles from cramping. I told myself, that I wanted too run this race @ 50. I’ll turn 51 shortly after midnight on the 4th, and I plan on running this race under 1 hour….. I like to wear new clothes in a big race as this, I’ll be looking for new shoes today. And the guy running with no shorts, you want need the Vaseline ;-) … Happy Running… Ken

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Marion Murphy

June 20th, 2010
6:29 pm

Why can I not find the answer to this question: When, where and what time can a spectator watch the AJC The Peachtree Road Race? We all don’t live in Atlanta!

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John McCosh

June 21st, 2010
10:57 am

Marion, you can start watching the race when the action begins at 7:30. You can watch from any vantage point along the 6.2 mile route, but popular spots are near the end. Along Peachtree, that’s about 17th Street to 14th and after the left turn on 14th Street crowds will line the road down to the finish line at Charles Allen Drive.

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Lauren Dieterich

June 21st, 2010
12:02 pm

There are a LOT of calories in an elephant! Wonder if I’d be better off sticking to Ben and Jerry’s…

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Melissa White

June 21st, 2010
3:43 pm

Does anyone else remember the year (sometime in the 80s) a naked woman stood on the roof of Aunt Charleys & caused a massive bottleneck because every male runner (well, the straight ones,anyway) had to stop & look?

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Gen Neyland

June 22nd, 2010
7:08 am

Nowadays, it seems that my whole running life has become one long continuous taper. I may not excel at the track like days gone by(e) but the tapering part, shoot, I’ve got that down pat…

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david

June 22nd, 2010
7:20 am

Group A! I guess my sub 50 min performance in Cobb’s US10k last year paid off.

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Gen Neyland

June 22nd, 2010
7:30 am

If you start with your original designated X group and break that hour you’re shooting for then you will have become a man, my son. I’m in the F Troop group. Too bad we elders can’t use the age-adjusted timing format to better ourselves timewise. If the current method of time submission remains the same, I’ll always submit my last PRR time instead of a ringer race in order to creep up front and become fodder for the Gazelles…

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Gen Neyland

June 22nd, 2010
7:32 am

david : The US10K is NOT a ringer race. Congrats on a sub 50 in that one. My best ever there was 58…

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Jay

June 22nd, 2010
8:17 am

I had my time from the Peachtree last year entered (55:19) but still received an X-Man Number?? I’m wondering if the online app didn’t have some issue as it took hours to get registered. Anyone else have this problem?

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bigdogears

June 22nd, 2010
9:01 am

I got my number this past weekend. Luckily, after a bit of training, I was able to complete a race that qualified me to start just after the sub-seeded runners. I’m in the 2000’s. I’m not happy with that though, I ran a race last weekend and plan to do it again this weekend hoping to get an even better position next year. I just missed it last weekend by only 3 seconds off the required pace. If it’s not 100-degrees this weekend I might just have it. The key is to run the smaller races where crowding isn’t a problem. Good luck everybody.

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Joy

June 22nd, 2010
9:28 am

I refer to myself at F Troop too Gen!

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Lauren Dieterich

June 22nd, 2010
9:37 am

David… I think a sub 50 at the Cobb 10k means you’re officially on track for the Olympic Trials. That is a bear of a race!

I love the Chattahoochee RR 10k in Sandy Springs and the Silver Comet 10k for speedy PRR qualifying courses. They both offer smallish crowds, flat courses and cool temps.

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Gen Neyland

June 22nd, 2010
10:13 am

Joy : Please don’t run over me…

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Kate

June 22nd, 2010
1:53 pm

Love to Run

June 22nd, 2010
4:21 pm

You can go to Big Peach and see if they have any of the special Reebok numbers available. They had a certain allocation of numbers per store that you can have if you purchase a pair of Reebok shoes. Here is a blurb from their newsletter:

One last bit of exciting Peachtree news: last week we mentioned that we have 20 free race entries at each of our stores. There are still some left, so if you don’t have a race number, there’s hope. That free entry is yours with the purchase of any pair of Reebok running shoes. (Race applications are on a first come, first served basis, and will not be held.)

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Pat21

June 23rd, 2010
10:08 am

He should email the Atlanta Track Club about the mix up.

This happened to me last year.

I submitted a half marathon time that was good enough for the Sub-Seeded Time Group. They must have thought it was a 10K time and not a half marathon time, so I was put in Time Group 2. I emailed the Track Club and explained the situation. They told me to send the number back in the mail and they would send me the right number. A few days later, I got my sub-seeded number.

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david

June 23rd, 2010
10:29 am

That US 10k is a beast! Peachtree’s Heartbreak Hill is a foothill for the other. I’ve run a lot of races, US 10k is the toughest by far, including some half-marathons.

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Robbie

June 23rd, 2010
10:56 am

Same thing happened to me this year. I called the office today and they said if I came by with my qualifying race results printed and my old number, they’ll switch it out for me.

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Jen05

June 23rd, 2010
11:00 am

Same thing happened to me and my friend this year. We submitted a time that, according to the posted time standards, should have placed us in Wave F. Instead, we are in Wave K, which is supposed to be for folks who didn’t submit a time at all. Not sure what’s going on. I asked on the ATC FB page and got no reply.

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Gen Neyland

June 23rd, 2010
12:42 pm

We are in Year 1 of the new time placement system for the PRR. I’m thinking the smaller start waves mean everyone that registered specific times won’t be accommodated in their proper wave. A cruel response for the hard work one puts one’s self through to inch closer to the front of the pack. I submitted last years PRR finish and got what I deserved, placement in the F start wave. I had better times in other races but I opted to use the 2009 PRR time for the sake of assisting the ATC race certification research staff and simplify their jobs. I’m betting the tweaking process will take a PRR or two before the wrinkles are worked out. I’m also thinking that all who sign up in the 2012 PRR won’t get their proper start wave again due to the massive number of runners involved once again. Maybe the PRR wants to evolve to overall specfic standards, ala the Boston Marathon…

If I were your boyfriend, I would ask you to run the race you trained for and earned the right to have. If you were my girlfriend, I’d thank you for hanging back with me and ask to let me nose you out at the finishline…

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Lauren Dieterich

June 23rd, 2010
1:17 pm

Oh Gen… you know him all too well. When I ran his first half marathon with him AND his first 10k with him last year, I hung back and supported him the whole way… and he totally nosed me out at the finish both times! Gotta love competitive spirit.

I really hope the PRR doesn’t become like Boston. First of all, I appreciate a race available to the masses – an athletic goal accessable to all levels of runners. Secondly… as much as it pains me (and as hard as I still am trying to shave the last 3 minutes off my marathon time to qualify)… Boston has become something you can buy your way into. So you either work real hard and earn it, OR you can barely finish but have the ability to write a big check (a la Katie Holmes-Cruise). Boo!

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Gen Neyland

June 23rd, 2010
9:40 pm

Lauren : True on the Boston. Still, for that venue they have my respect for the standards they apply to the majority. A buddy of mine got in one year on a corporate sponsership and ran at a 5+ hour trot. For him, a thrill just to be there, but…

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Gen Neyland

June 24th, 2010
7:17 am

Solo runner here. Only thing pushing/pulling me along is a conscience and the dream of taking nano-seconds off last years PRR time. Doing a 6 miler today after I finishing pecking this out then it’s back down time. As I live in a rural setting up in NE GA, avoiding hills is not an option unless it’s track day. About 1/2 mile from home is a great hill that is apx .4 miles in length and feels to be around a 50% grade after a few attempts on it. BTW, the neighborhood you ran last weekend is the same general area where my N-Laws live. Please be advised : If a white Oldsmobile is heading your way on LaVista or Oak Grove, get as far off the road as possible…

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Phyllis

June 24th, 2010
7:23 am

My boyfriend has been running for a lot longer than me and was a large push in me even signing up for my first Peachtree. He runs with me once a week on the weekends for my long runs. Even though it is annoying that he barely breaks a sweat, and somehow can run forever without training, he was the first person I ever ran 5 miles with. He has a watch to keep pace and will carry water for me so I don’t have to. As mean or annoying as he can be sometimes during a run as a coach, he’s the only reason I’ve come so far this summer. I ran my first 5k last weekend with a goal that he helped me set at 30 minutes. I went a 28:55, currently the highlight of my summer. Having someone to train with is definitely a huge help. Can’t wait for the Peachtree!

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bigdogears

June 24th, 2010
8:23 am

I’ve run those same streets having lived off of Pangborn Road until 2004 when I moved south and closer to work.

I’m a solo runner too. I like going to races with friends and neighbors but after the gun goes off it’s every man for himself! My brother and his family will be does the PRR with my wife and I. We’ll all meet up at the end!

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Love to Run

June 24th, 2010
8:28 am

My time group is off this year too. Not sure what happened… if the Track Club offers placement based on a documented time, they need to follow through with the promise. After all, we register in March and the numbers are mailed in June so I would think there is plenty of time to make this right. I wish the Track Club was more responsive and active in the AJC sponsorship – make a statement, post a response, write an article, something. Speak to us please…

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Same Boat Runner

June 24th, 2010
8:48 am

So this will be my first year running the PRR…unfortunately my bib came Monday with a randomly picked, dead last, big FAT X start wave group on it (since it’s my first year I have no prior verified race times with them). Ugh, my hopes of that under 60 minute finish are down the drain already. Sort of disheartening considering all the trainings ensured to get to said X point. How many years will it take to get from X to C (or somewhere in that vacinity) I wonder? Maybe this is why people run it for so many years in a row…to finally get a decent start wave at year 15 by gradually working their way up from the bottom…and dodging many runners/walkers along the way.

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Kari

June 24th, 2010
1:40 pm

So my group of running buddies has all different starting times. I am a U, there are two P’s and one A. Is there a way for us all to run together? This is my first time and really need the added support.

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John McCosh

June 24th, 2010
2:03 pm

Kari, the people with the Ps might agree to move back with you to the U wave, but I’d guess it will be a tough sell to get the A runner to move that far back. You can move from front to back, but not in the other direction.

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Marybeth McMillan

June 24th, 2010
4:10 pm

I did not receive my number yet! Who should I contact?

Marybeth McMillan

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Bobby

June 24th, 2010
7:02 pm

Chill folks. Everyone gets a chip time now so it no longer really matters which time group you start in except for maybe beating the heat a little. But I suspect if you take a confirmed time by the ATC office with you bib they will swap them for you as long as they have numbers for a higher corral.

Enjoy the race. Wonder what number I’ll have? I submitted a 2009 10k time and should be in C but we’ll see. :)

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like2hike

June 24th, 2010
7:17 pm

Should all Atlanta area runners have received their number by now if we paid for the mailer option?

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Jim

June 24th, 2010
10:34 pm

Ran 16 Peachtree’s and all I can say is go back and run with him. This is not a race, but an event. You are not going for a record time, and if you are, you will not get it (by zigzagging through people the whole race?)

I ran with both friends and by myself. And when you finish by yourself, you find you are standing by some balloon with a letter on it at Piedmont Park for 45 minutes to 1hour + with nothing to do but stand there with your hands on your hips looking for your friends with no one to celebrate with and experience the jubilation.

Run with your man. If he slows down wait till he catches up. Hold hands together high in the air at the photo bridge near the end. Order the picture, put it in a frame for a lasting memory and you will cherish that more than the satisfaction of finishing the race by yourself with nothing to do but waiting in a stinky field wondering if he ever finished the race.

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bigdogears

June 25th, 2010
7:22 am

All good advise. I especially like the term “snot rocket”. Gotta remember that one! Regarding cheaters, I think runners would be surprised to know that their entry fee usually only partially covers the race costs per participant. The rest is made up with funds from sponsors. This is especially true with smaller events where police and emergency personnel are still required but don’t have the draw like a Peachtree.

The only thing I might add is to please take a shower BEFORE to come to the start and how about putting on just a tad bit of smell good stuff. It’s gonna be hot and we’re all gonna stink after the race but we’ll all be standing around like cattle for just as long before the race. Smell good stuff in lieu of a shower doesn’t count!

One last thing, if you stayed out late the night before and feel sick during the race please rememebr that no one want to run through your last night’s pasta dinner.

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Gen Neyland

June 25th, 2010
7:43 am

The Peachtree T-shirt for the majority of runners is viewed as their individual Blue Ribbon, first place in an age/time group of one. They trained to the best of their ability, put in the hours, suffering the rain and heat, squeezing in time on the road to make the complete 6.2 trek down Peachtree. Not to mention the hours it takes to get to Lennox and wait for their turn to run the route..! Ahhh, but the Course Jumper, for whatever reason, takes the easy path to Piedmont Park. Where is the pride that comes with a sense of accomplishment in beating the system for the Course Jumper..? Two words : Cheating losers. Is that too harsh..?

On etiquitte : For some, it’s difficult not to impede the flow of traffic on Cardiac Hill. Flat course runners that find hating hill work has it’s price. To those, please hang to the right. We old, fat sloggers that want to huff and puff our way up the hill will appreciate it.

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marc

June 25th, 2010
8:51 am

Good advice about looking before launching a snot rocket. Just to be safe, it’s a good idea to yell “incoming” before a launch.

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Annette

June 25th, 2010
9:27 am

Anyone running with me in group C is welcome to ignore bigdogears’ advice re “smell good stuff.” The last thing I want to smell when running in 80 degree temps is strong perfume! BO is inevitable during a long, hot, crowded race.

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Chris

June 25th, 2010
10:05 am

You forgot the biggest issue. WALKERS MOVE TO THE RIGHT. I am not sure why people enter the race and then walk to begin with, but if you must walk, MOVE OVER TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE ROAD. Walking down the center of the street is the most inconsiderate thing you can do.

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Scarab

June 25th, 2010
10:15 am

I’d like to add (and the Peachtree Road Race magazine stresses this as well): while actually on the course, ALL WALKERS STAY TO THE RIGHT OF THE STREET/COURSE!! It’s just like street traffic: slower participants on the right side of the road. Runners will be zipping by on the left side.

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graydog

June 25th, 2010
10:18 am

all good advice. you left out a couple – please don’t run in groups with more than 3 people side by side. it makes it very difficult for others to pass you. and look where you’re going if you insist on trying to catch the shirts thrown/shot out to the crowd during the race. running over someone to grab a cheap t-shirt is not cool.

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Van Jones

June 25th, 2010
11:19 am

Amen on the shower, slower runners keep right, course jumpers, and walking (or sorta running) two abreast. Also, this is not the course for a personal best time so please constantly gravitate as far to the right as your speed allows. Umpteen thousand other runners thank you!

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Adam

June 25th, 2010
12:20 pm

If only all of life’s choices were so easy. Run in your time group, put forth your best effort, you trained for it, you earned it. You’ve been training to go out there and do your best. It is the Peachtree Road ***RACE***. You’ve run together in training, I’m sure you’ve had plenty of time for that, you’ll have plenty of time in the future for it.

If he’s worth keeping, he’d understand and push you to give it your all.

I had this conversation with many coworkers last year. We all met up at the end and had food, beer, and good times afterward.

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Adam

June 25th, 2010
12:23 pm

@Jim
“You are not going for a record time, and if you are, you will not get it (by zigzagging through people the whole race?)”

Yes, yes you can. In wave A, and maybe even B, you certainly can PR. The zig zagging is minimal. I and several friends and co-workers did last year.

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bigdogears

June 25th, 2010
2:46 pm

Annette: I consider soap “smell good stuff”, don’t you? Perfume is, as my sainted mother used to say, “stinkums”.

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Mike

June 25th, 2010
3:48 pm

John, just did a test run this morning – there is no sidewalk on the east side between East Paces Ferry and Buckhead Avenue (the northern half of the Streets of Buckhead).

I crossed over to the west side of Peachtree for the rest of the route and I regretted it for several reasons: not only is it the sunny side of the street and much warmer, but there are narrow sidewalks just before Peachtree Battle and again going up the hill at the 3-mile mark, and both times I had to wait for someone coming in the other direction before I could proceed.

When I got to Fresh Market, it was 89 with a heat index of 95. I had to give up, it was too miserable. Although a bottle of fresh orange juice sure did make me feel better…

Full disclosure: I’m not a runner. I’m a very fast walker, though. Last year my goal was NOT to be the middle-aged guy who passes out in front of Piedmont Hospital, and my time was just under 100 minutes. This year I’m on pace to do it in 85, which would make me extremely happy. Maybe the following year I’ll be able to reduce it another 15.

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Mike

June 25th, 2010
3:52 pm

Last year I was in time group 3, and I saw the extent of the cheaters – people were walking by me with numbers in groups 8 and 9, and they hadn’t even left yet!

They should put a device in the timer tags – if you’re south of Piedmont Road when your time group starts, your shoes explode.

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newbie

June 25th, 2010
4:04 pm

This will be my first time running/walking/taking it in. I’m extremely nervous, but excited!

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Don KeBallz

June 25th, 2010
6:34 pm

ELR

June 25th, 2010
7:46 pm

This is my first Peachtree at age 55. It is my victory run after losing 110 pounds in 15 months. I have been running 5ks and am excited abut the Peachtree.

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Kris

June 26th, 2010
10:49 am

As I ran past a bar in Buckhead several years ago, a girl came out with a tray of cups of beer for the runners and about 10 people shouted “FREE BEER!!” I’ve never in my life had a beer while running, but it was the coldest, best beer I’ve ever had! Thanks so much to whoever gave it to me! :)

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Mike

June 27th, 2010
10:53 am

My time last year was around 1:40. When I saw the original classifications, I figured I’d be in time group T at 8:46. But when I got my number, I saw that the people who submitted times only went through group H, which I’m in, and J through X are random. (There is no “I” group. There’s no “I” in team, either. Or in “Peachtree Road Race.”)

Since 50,000 people had times in last year’s race, doesn’t this suggest that either a lot of people didn’t run again this year, or there are a lot of times that didn’t get recorded?

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John Williams

June 27th, 2010
2:04 pm

Shane’s Rib Shack t-shirt and don’t forget the Piedmont Hospital towel – got one today.
In the old days, Nike used to give out towels at the park on the last Sunday before the race.

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hagood

June 27th, 2010
2:06 pm

dare i say first loser…

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Gen (F22757) Neyland

June 28th, 2010
12:02 pm

Lauren : If I may, ” A race is a work of art that people can look at and be affected by in as many ways as they’re capable of understanding.”—-
Steve Prefontaine

At this juncture in my running life, I’m evolving back to where I began this activity in MAR of 1991. Just run, placement be danged. Let’s just give it our best and let the timimg chips fall where they may…

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kb

June 28th, 2010
12:59 pm

I do the PTRR with my mother every year. we PAY our dues….the true “prize” is and always for us be, the famed t-shirt. Do we line up with our groups? Nope. Do we usually start early and begin the walk down Peachtree. You bet. But we start at the start line (if not before that) and have never once been one to hop Marta and jump down and “finish” the last half of the race. We walk, yes, but our dues are paid…it’s annoying to hear people yelling comments to “Not participate in the PTRR if you’re not running”…there’s a lot more for people to worry about. Can’t wait for another exciting year!

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Bridget

June 28th, 2010
3:21 pm

Cute post John. Just wanted to let you know that one of my best friends is getting married at 5pm after the race, and in the spirit of the roadrace, we’ll be dressed as the wedding party – of course a bit modified from what we’ll wear later that evening. Be on the look out for a bride, groom, 1 groomsman and 2 bridesmaid (seems like he might be the lucky fella). Good luck and hope to see you out there!

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Elvira

June 28th, 2010
4:16 pm

First time, excited and a bit nervous!!! My friend and I will be supporting each other to the finnish line. I can remove this from my “buckett list”

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John

June 28th, 2010
5:39 pm

If you want to be a part of the Peachtree and not run the volunteers get some very nice items.Please sign up on the Atlanta Track Club’s website.We need a lot more than have signed up.I have been doing this for years and have a great time.

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bigdogears

June 28th, 2010
6:04 pm

I’ve run a race each of the past 2 weekends and both times (after seeing to my own hydration needs) I’ve wandered over to the finish line area to cheer on those that finished after me. I hope I gave my competitors some encouragement and nurtured there desire to continue. It wouldn’t be much of a race if one were all by oneself or if we all had equal abilities!

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Christy

June 29th, 2010
7:56 am

I’ve been the wing supplier. This is my first PRR and I am a running with a first timer friend. We are luckily both in R and we will be running her pace (which is about a minute per mile slower than mine)for our first PRR together. She will need the push up cardiac hill and it will be such an accomplishment for her to run the whole thing.

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Jessica

June 29th, 2010
8:54 am

The holy water mister makes me smile every year and the Shepherd patients are the reason I run Cardiac Hill. Just when I think I want to walk, I see patients who would give anything to run.
And Max Cleland waving a flag gives me chills on even the hottest running day.

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Love to Run

June 29th, 2010
8:55 am

I think (imo) that folks who run as bandits with absolutely no gumption of ever obtaining a number by any means are the worst offenders… the fee is modest and pays for so much… buck up and pay. If you don’t pay, stay home and keep the beer on ice.

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bigdogears

June 29th, 2010
8:58 am

As an avid runner and a race director I can see transfering numbers from both sides. Just keep in mind that most races are planned and executed from start to finish by volunteers. Many of these hard working volumteers do not run and have never even seen a race finish or starting line except as a volunteer. When you change your number you add to the confusion and there workload. That being said, I’ve done it (and be nice to the volunteers)!

As for costumes, I say have a good time so long as you don’t get hurt (step on your tail) and add to the fun without taking anything away.

Lastly, eBay scammers suck!

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Scott

June 29th, 2010
9:13 am

As a runner, and one who has run the PRR each of the last 11 years, I have a bigger issue with the hundreds (thousands?) of runners with later time groups who wait on the sidewalks past the start line and then jump into the race with the early time groups. I don’t see how people transferring numbers and/or selling numbers on eBay creates any additional work or confusion for the race volunteers, but I do see the confusion and difficulties that “jumpers” and bandits cause to those in the early time groups trying to run a good race!

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Pat21

June 29th, 2010
9:18 am

The numbers and letters are rather confusing this year. One of my co-workers told me how excited she was to be in “time group 3″ this year, not realizing that the number doesn’t really mean anything.

I think people are genuinely confused about the numbers.

As far as eBay goes, I don’t really care if people buy and sell numbers on there. If people are willing to pay $100 for a Peachtree number, let them! I don’t know why you would, considering you will be running under someone elses name and won’t get the results. But, whatever!

To all of those running in costumes, go for it! Just stay out of my way!

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bigdogears

June 29th, 2010
9:55 am

When I mentioned “confusion” I was referring to the results. A lot of folks that run races (in addition to the PRR) like to have accurate results of their time and placement. Having a jumper, bandit runner or anyone run that didn’t pay to participate isn’t fair to those that did and takes away from the event.

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Lauren Dieterich

June 29th, 2010
9:58 am

I don’t think buying numbers on eBay (or trading numbers) is so bad. Race mgmt has to say it’s against the rules to try and control such a large race… or else things would get severely out of control (give people an inch, they take a mile, or 10k, etc).

Consider this… if you trade up and are running around people way faster than you, that’s not so much different than someone who trained really hard last year for a fast time which earned them a great number… and then they didn’t run much in the interim and are really out of shape right now. Though they earned their spot, they are still gonna be sloooow.

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Gen (F22757) Neyland

June 29th, 2010
10:23 am

My favorite all-time Peachtree Road Race quote from Barney Fife : “Once burnt, lesson learnt.”

I’ve been in your shoes Peachtree’s past so I submitted my last years 1:12 PRR slog. Netted me a ‘F’ at least. Last year I hoped for at least the ‘4′ group w/o submitting an eligible 10K time but ended up with ‘6′ group. I too was bummed and figured ‘not this year’…

Second favorite Barney Fife PRR quote : Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.”

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Gen Neyland

June 30th, 2010
11:53 am

I’m a loner on runs, finding it easier to move at my own pace and schedule. Albeit, when looking for advice regarding roads or trails, I’ll pick somebody’s brain wiser than mine like a crab at an all-u-can-eat fish buffet…btw, the photo of the water crossing looks like great fun. After the 2010 PRR, I’m going to focus and get involved with off-road events. Call it a new beginning for an old asphalt pounder.

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Mrs Showers

June 30th, 2010
1:16 pm

Wow, makes me wonder (and even long) if I’d ever be on the same schedule as a training buddy. My husband serves at the encourager of my hard fought runs and he’s even proud of those runs that come effortlessly. We never run “together” but sometimes run at the same park, often arriving together. Almost every run we compare stats afterwards. We both understand that we have our own agenda’s in mind. He likes concrete and paved runs whereas I enjoy the offbeaten trails more. I enjoy my surrounds whereas he focuses on drowning out everything other than his music. I guess he is sort of my training partner in ways because I always find myself thinking what would he think about my pace right now and it pushes me harder. Inspiration comes in many forms and I think he makes me a better runner. This will be our first PRR and since we got slotted randomly I will start behind him a few groups, but I know that he will be waiting just past the finish line to celebrate with me. Looking forward to it already!

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Gen Neyland

June 30th, 2010
3:15 pm

Mrs Showers has tweaked something within I must address. My wife is not a runner. She is a walker and has done the Avon 3 Day. She will again be volunteering the PRR and afterward, pick me up at Ansley Mall then drive us to the Varsity for post race/post volunteering grease. She’s encouraged me along my running ways for 19 years and her support has been greatly appreciated…

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Joseph McDonald

June 30th, 2010
6:23 pm

Will the race be televised this year? I can not find any info on this.

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Runner

June 30th, 2010
6:38 pm

Gary, your probably a fat slob that just wishes you had could run the peachtree or even walk it. Bet 100 dollars you never even tried to run it or even have showed up for the fun.

Losers have a way of always being the negative voice on here. Your probably the type who just lost his mobile home on wheels.

Get a life smuck

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Run Like A Mother

June 30th, 2010
7:13 pm

I plan on running in costume this year (my third year running the Peachtree) for the first time. I donned my outfit and took it out for a “test run” today to see how it feels. After around 3 miles it still felt quite comfortable. Be on the look out for a gal in a Fraulein getup in group B. For the sake of comfort, most accessories will be left at home.

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Gen Neyland

July 1st, 2010
7:22 am

All the hard work you’ve put in to accomplish your goal will reap benefits galore. The sea of people starting ahead of you will part then watch you speed by (Thx to the BodyGlide). The Kenyans will be dropping rose petals in their wake in anticipation of your overtaking them. The Fox5 ‘High Five’ Sports Team will be singing your praises all morning and a special place will be set at the Awards Stand for you, the Guest of Honor, the first to ever start in Group X and really WIN the PRR…All the local politicians will clamor for your time and photo ops to boot. Sports apparel manufacturers will seek your endorsements, Amby Burfoot will resign his post and you’ll take his place at Runner’s World…Sure, you’ll fall out of favor with John Bingham but that’s a small price to pay for success…Then, you’ll awake…Seriously, Good luck.

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Christy

July 1st, 2010
7:26 am

My dad – never a runner – started running to keep me motivated when no one else would commit. he is now my Naomi and I can barely keep up these days. Without him I know I wouldn’t run as much or as fast so I am grateful! This is my first PRR and he didn’t register in time so I am running with a friend (I am her motivation).

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Run Like A Mother

July 1st, 2010
8:08 am

This being my third peachtree that I have run and I think everyone has left off the most important part. If you find that your pace was too fast and you need to walk PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT STOP AND JUST START WALKING!!!! Drop to a safe jog and move to the right. Running full speed and then stopping is just like someone accelerating in their automobile and then slamming on the brakes. You will cause an accident and it is in fact very dangerous. Last year my husband nearly knocked out a tooth after some inexperienced “runner” pulled this. This is not your local 5k where you can pull that stunt.

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Sara

July 1st, 2010
8:51 am

This is a toughie. It would be one thing if he was just one or two groups behind you, but it sounds like your pace is superior to his anyways. Which would mean that the struggle to run together would be a challenge in itself even if you did hang back in his group.

If he is ok with it, I say start with your group and be at the finish line ready to give him a big sloppy one!

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Lauren Dieterich

July 1st, 2010
9:29 am

Good luck John… I’m excited for you and your goal! Half the fun of racing is watching others and seeing them succeed. I’ve been telling people I win the PRR for years. I guess I’ve been lying this whole time since you are the clear winner!

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rochelle

July 1st, 2010
9:43 am

I think Glen should design the shirts next year since he is SUCH the critic… He must not realize these are talented artists who are hand painting some of their elements. Could you link us to a painting of a peach that you’ve done recently? Or maybe you could send us a link to a text design you’ve done in photoshop or indesign. Thanks Glen!

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John McCosh

July 1st, 2010
10:05 am

Thanks Lauren and Gen Neyland. I won’t let you down! (Unless I do).

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Lauren Dieterich

July 1st, 2010
10:13 am

@Rochelle… sounds like you may be one of the artists? While negative opinions hurt, remember we are allowed to have our own opinons. One person’s idea of beauty is different from another’s, and there’s no way to make 55,000 people happy. I certainly don’t have near as much talent as the artists here – I am miserable when working with Quark or InDesign. So I definitely commend the artists for their hard work and willingness to take a chance and submit their designs.

That being said, the final 3 choices are growing on me. I’m kinda hoping for the crazy swirly font one at the top… different.

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PJ

July 1st, 2010
10:19 am

You are already a winner in my book! :-D Great job! I too am struggling to finish in under an hour (I would even be happy with 59:59 ha!) but it may be one more year for me with this heat this year. My 1st year was 1:10 and last year was 1:06. Close but no “cigar” yet ha! You are doing yourself a great justice by working out and eating better so again, you did WIN!

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Gen Neyland

July 1st, 2010
4:03 pm

What I really gotta knkow is will you or Lauren do a Sunday afternoon blog so we can share our, ahem, moral victory stories..? The wife and I are jetting out monday morning so if this week ends it all within this forum, thank you for your work and the ajc for allowing it…

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John McCosh

July 1st, 2010
4:51 pm

Gen, I hadn’t planned on posting before next Tuesday. I’m sure there will be a lot of staff generated content going up on ajc.com Sunday after the race.

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Dad

July 1st, 2010
6:54 pm

My daughter Christy needed a running partner to train for the PRR. I had never run as a workout before but I was willing to try it. We started in late February, 5am, 24 degrees. Christy had to teach me how to run and I went from 50 yards of running before I had to stop to a full 5k two or three times a week and no pain.(almost no pain) Christy pulled out of me something I didn’t know was there.
I’ve learned from Christy how to enjoy life in a different way. Thank you Christy, we love you.

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james

July 1st, 2010
7:01 pm

What is my goal? To hot, sold my number for beer money. Feeling pretty good about that. Have fun.

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free2be

July 1st, 2010
7:23 pm

i am excited about the upcoming race. i am wanting to finish in 75 minutes or less this year. that would shave 15 minutes off of my time last year.:) it was my first race last year. i know that i’m good for at least 10 minutes less. i am hoping to get in the 60 minute club by next year. let’s go! woohoo!!:)

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Gen Neyland

July 2nd, 2010
7:54 am

The night before an event, I can’t sleep soundly. Nerves, somewhat raw and edgy. Never fails, even in the Peachtree. But come ‘The Day’, all is good… Focus on the run, trust that we did the best we could to get to the starting line healthy or just slightly nicked up. If our best effort comes in a few minutes over what we projected, what have we lost..? Nothing. Never saw a runner throw their shoes in a lake disgusted and angry after failing to make a time…The PRR is a celebration of like minds. Our All-Star game. 55,000 of the millions nationally and globally that share our sport. We know what they know. From the Wheelchairs to the seeded ones to Start Wave X, we’ll share common ground on Sunday. We are in tune.

Lauren/John : This forum has been both informative and entertaining. Thank you for keeping it fun, and to the ajc for allowing us runners this online space. If I’m not able to participate on post race blogs, I just want to thank you both again for taking this on. Your work here has been appreciated. Down the road…

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Go2Gator

July 2nd, 2010
9:13 am

And the cheaters who jump in late to have a good clock time.You are just cheating yourself!

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2nd Ptree Race

July 2nd, 2010
9:15 am

What I want to know about the costumes, is why did I receive an e-mail encouraging it (from the AJC official Road Race e-mails) if they aren’t allowed? The title of the e-mail was:
AJC Peachtree Road Race Tips
Have You Picked Out Your Race Costume Yet?

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Donna

July 2nd, 2010
9:16 am

OK OK – So my husband and friend will be in group M and N and I’m stuck back in X…

I”ve done the last 7 Peachtrees and he has done just the last one – I must have filled out the form incorrectly….

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Karen

July 2nd, 2010
9:17 am

I am looking forward to my 3rd Peachtree and while I am further back this year, I will enjoy my race. I did not realize how many people cheat – it is amazing to me that you think this is ok and what is the purpose. A girl I know had her brother, fast runner, register and gave the number to her boyfriend who is a slow runner and just started running a couple of months ago. He is in Group B – I am in Group F – it does annoy me but I have to let it go that some think cheating is ok and do what I know is the right thing to do. What do these people gain?

Have a great run.

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Kirsten

July 2nd, 2010
9:35 am

Hope to see you at some point, Lauren! Have a great race!

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Project_Chris

July 2nd, 2010
9:39 am

This is the first running of the Peachtree for the entire crew at Project 9-6-1. Shaffee, Jefe, Aly, Swan and I will be running/walking while broadcasting live on the air Sunday morning from 8am-12noon! I can’t wait to earn my very first Peachtree Road Race t-shirt!

Chris
3p-7p weekdays
Project 9-6-1

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Tracy

July 2nd, 2010
9:42 am

I agree with all of the suggestions. I bet the offenders don’t read this or think that this applies to them. Peachtree would be a much better experience if these were followed.

This will be my ninth Peachtree. It was supposed to be my fastest. I was on track to get a 7-something minute mile when I got a stress fracture in my left ankle three weeks ago. Instead, I will be starting at the rear of my time group and wobbling down the right side of the road towards my t-shirt. I’ll get my time from a race later in the year and be ready for next year’s P’tree. Happy 4th of July. Let’s have a great day!

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matt

July 2nd, 2010
9:43 am

About the first part of your post, these two things for me sum it up nicely:

http://runningtimes.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=5823&PageNum=1

and

“People can’t understand why a man runs. They don’t see any sport in it. Argue it lacks the sight and thrill of body contact. Yet, the conflict is there, more raw and challenging than any man versus man competition. For in running it is man against himself, the cruelest of opponents. The other runners are not the real enemies. His adversary lies within him, in his ability, with brain and heart to master himself and his emotions.”

Glenn Cunningham – American runner, Olympic Games medalist

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Stacey

July 2nd, 2010
10:00 am

Luv it! Hahaha and hope to see you out there. You will definitely make sub 60!!

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NotaGator

July 2nd, 2010
10:15 am

Everyone complaining about people jumping in late “for a better time” — they won’t show up in the results, as they didn’t cross the timing mat at the starting line in order to activate their D-tag. The joke’s on them!

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Jon

July 2nd, 2010
10:15 am

I am new to this “tradition”, running. I only learned of this event early June. Cooper River was my first ever event, a wonder 10K that I will try attend every year I am breathing. In a since these events are about the shirts. You may not wear them but it a footprint in your past that allows you the ablitiy to gage improvements in one self. Anyone who has been unhealthy and has turned their life around can understand this. I myself was very unhealthy, and now am in the best shape of my life, these events give people the motivation to continue a healthy lifestyle, LaurenD’s comments about supporting people that may not be runners, but are at least out there is spot on! Gary, your a sad individual, and am betting that if you attend an event like this, things would make sense! I have every intention to attend this event next year! I want a shirt!

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Tiffany

July 2nd, 2010
10:16 am

I’m in group H and my husband is in group N, I can still run with him in his group can’t I? I don’t really care what group I’m in, my time will be my time whether I’m in group A or X. I just don’t want to run “by myself”. Does anyone know if this is still o.k. to run in a later group?

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John McCosh

July 2nd, 2010
10:24 am

HI Tiffany – You can move back, just not forward to a better wave position.

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Mid Life r'

July 2nd, 2010
10:25 am

Under one hour for me or I will be back next year. What a goal to stop this mid life crisis of mine!

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Cooper

July 2nd, 2010
10:42 am

Last year was my first Peachtree. I learned a very valuable lesson — if you see Moe’s throwing t-shirts into the crowd, run the opposite direction! A runner came to a dead stop in front of me to try and catch a t-shirt and almost caused me to eat pavement. I was very ticked! It is very dangerous for Moe’s to be throwing stuff into the crowd of runners!

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An

July 2nd, 2010
10:44 am

Just curious as to what the purpose was with the time tags last year if they didn’t really seem to count towards this year…I ran my best time ever last year – my 6th year running in under and hour and I got stuck in the 60’s this year starting in the back in the HEAT…I must admit I am a little upset…I entered my time from last year when I signed up and I assume that finishing in under and hour is better than being placed in the 60’s…sigh…oh well – Happy 4th I am still excited about my 7the PTRR!!

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Lauren Dieterich

July 2nd, 2010
11:01 am

An – the timing chips recorded a time – searchable on the internet, and available for bragging rights. They did not automatically use those times for this year’s seeding. When you signed up, you had to note on the form a race and finish time to use for seeding. This is helpful because for instance… I run faster at other 10ks than I do at Peachtree, so I didn’t want them to use my PRR time… I chose to submit a time from another 2009 10k.

Also… note the different start wave method this year – IGNORE your numbers – you are assigned a start wave by the LETTER at the beginning. Time groups are not noted by numbers this year, but letters.

Hope you have a great race!

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An

July 2nd, 2010
11:07 am

Thanks Lauren – makes sense…so I guess they do not allow the PRR time to be used as a qualifying time? seems a little crazy – cause I did enter that time when I signed up…so I guess I was thinking that would have helped me get a little sooner start…I am starting in the T wave…still a late start – 8:46 to be exact :( I entered a 10k qualifying time a few years back and got in the 3’s so was very excited…just a little bummed by such a late start, but it actually looks like it won’t be AS hot as it has been lately :) You have a great and safe run also! and thanks again :)

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Lauren Dieterich

July 2nd, 2010
11:16 am

An – they do allow the PRR times to be used as qualifiers. Sounds like you experienced a glitch in the system? That is a TOTAL bummer. My boyfriend submitted a time good enough for B, and was given G. We called and they allowed us to come switch it out. Not sure if you can still do that this late in the game, but perhaps you could try?

I think with the changes this year, and always with such a large group, there are unfortunate glitches/growing pains. But the ATC still does a heckuva job putting on an awesome race – the world’s largest 10k!

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Becky

July 2nd, 2010
12:53 pm

On one morning, 55k people sweat harder for one goal than any other other time in the year and 150k get up at the crack of dawn to genuinely cheer for total strangers. Unless you are a world-class runner, you will not have a personal best, but so what? It is more fun than should be legal in the middle of a public street, so let it be.
My vote, as someone who takes running seriously, is to adopt the following rules:
If you are going to get a number, wear it with pride or give/sell it (at face value) to someone who will.
If you have a number, start at the start and give it your all….whatever that is….for 6.2 (if you are at WSB without a drop of sweat you just don’t get it).
If you are walking, start later, stay right.
If you are running as a bandit, only do it for the love of the run, jump in at your pace, early in the course, and do not jump right in front of someone.
If your costume will slow you down, start accordingly, but, oh, please start! Your cape, toga, towel, and wig make my run.

Break out the short-shorts, cow bells, mimosas, and body paint, my friends, it’s time for the Peachtree!

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Brenda Tidwell

July 2nd, 2010
12:57 pm

Folks, let’s face it, this is NOT a race it is a party. IF you are worried about timing run another race!
Go! Run-walk! Enjoy the 4th of July with your family and friends! Laugh! It is fun!

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Steve

July 2nd, 2010
1:27 pm

Jon, you’re probably right about poor Gary, unfortunately, responding to people who don’t get it only gives them what they are looking for , some sort of validation. Its a great accomplishment for ANYONE to be able to run and finish a 6.2 mile race, no matter what your ability level. The shirts are a terrific “badge of honor” that you really earned throught hard work. I will be adding the 14th to my collection this Sunday. Keep truckin runners….I admire every one of you!!

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susan

July 2nd, 2010
1:33 pm

Last year I had beginners luck and FINISHED!
( I too am in the over 50 reformed smoker club )

This year – just wanted to beat my time from last year and am scared!!
Wish I had made a plan!! ( and stuck to it!)

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Towanda

July 2nd, 2010
5:09 pm

I have run the Peachtree about 17 times (and I still have all of my shirts!). Every year as I get older, and it is harder to motivate myself to train (because I only “train” for the Peachtree!) I say it will probably be my last. But, as I flip the calendar page to “March”, with the registration deadline forever embedded in my brain, I say, “Ok, one more time.” Then, as I near race day I wonder if I have trained well enough – will it be harder than I remember from last year, can I make it over heartbreak hill, will this indeed be my last Peachtree? But, as the wonderful, supportive, cheering Atlanta crowd, and my fellow racers inspire and motivate me to the finish, and I realize I have made it “one more time”, I am convinced yet again that the Atlanta Peachtree is the only place to be on the 4th of July!

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CyberSpiff

July 2nd, 2010
7:26 pm

I’m in the over-50 ex smoker, slightly overweight, never really worked out category. My goal is to not die on the course, but to finish in whatever time it takes.

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Facebook Rik

July 2nd, 2010
7:35 pm

My goal is to run the first 5K and run/walk the rest. It’s my first one and at 330lbs I am hoping to not die. Oh, and it’s my 40th birthday.

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Stacey

July 2nd, 2010
8:15 pm

Couldn’t agree more w/ Becky!!!

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CCX Runner

July 2nd, 2010
9:51 pm

Regarding the costumes, they certainly are tradition and they are expected and encouraged (mostly through laughter). I have always thought that the reason you get emails and documents that warn against costumes is for the Atlanta Track Club to relinquish liability in case of costume-related injury or heat-stroke.

Can’t wait to run!!

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Hannah

July 2nd, 2010
10:32 pm

My goal is to sit around and drink alcohol.

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Valerie

July 2nd, 2010
11:37 pm

I always admired the people wearing the Peachtree t-shirts. I thought of them as incredibly fit people and strong and dedicated people. I assume Gary hasn’t ever really tried to run…it’s not easy. I for one can attest to how special this race is. I had always wanted to run the Peachtree, but at 347 pounds, it just wasn’t something you did. So I always admired those who did and who proudly wore their t-shirts from afar–until last June. June 1st 2009, I started changing myself. I remember watching segments on the evening news (from my recumbant bike—I couldn’t walk 1/4 mile without stopping at that point) about people who were going to be running the Peachtree and getting teary eyed because I wanted to do it so badly. I sit here lauging at shmucks like Gary right now. People who are miserable so they try to make others miserable because they don’t have the courage to get up and try. I am 130 pounds lighter since last June (and a non-smoker since Sept. 09…yes, it’s possible to quit smoking and lose weight at the same time.) AND I RUN. I’ll run every step of that 6.2 if I can…will I finish in the top 1000? HECK NO. Do I care? NO! Because I’ve already won this race. I won it when I was able to sign up for it knowing I could complete it. So yeah, Gary…that t-shirt will be special. And I will have earned it whether I finish in the top 1000 or not.

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Kristen W

July 3rd, 2010
8:42 am

I still need a number as I thought I wouldn’t be in town this year. What’s the harm of running as a “phantom runner” so to speak if someone else can’t use theirs? Why waste it? Email me if you know anyone who can help me.

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Becca in Ellenwood

July 3rd, 2010
10:11 am

I am too frustrated. I have been running this race for over 12 years and my husband 10. Each time we register, my number is always somewhere in the back and he is in the front. He usually starts with me,we are the same age and always finish together. This year I thought since we were submitting times I would get a better place (last year 1:20’s). No luck, my husband is in the H-30’s and I am in the T-69’s , the same as my brother-in-law who has not ran the race in over 5 years. I was tempted not to run at all but I can’t justify Waffle House afterwards, so I run in the name of hashbrowns and eggs. I just didn’t want to start in the heat.

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Sweeney

July 3rd, 2010
10:36 am

The etiquette to not run the race w/o a number is obvious — but what about walking it? Toward the end? I tried to get a number for walking the tail end w/o success. Is it o.k. to jump in on the back?

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Craig

July 3rd, 2010
11:41 am

Need a better system next year. 2010 will be my 30th P’tree RR (age 51). I’ll run it in around ~64 mins. My 82 yo uncle is walking his first P’tree.. with my sister, her 2nd. While I’m extremely excited to have them join us on the 4th… I’m a surprised they drew a better start time than I did. They listed themselves as walking. I think someone/system goofed a little on the random assignments. At least next year parse the entries with runners in front of walkers as they self selected on their applications… Thanks and have fun on the 4th…

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CyberSpiff

July 3rd, 2010
2:03 pm

Totally psyched for tomorrow. Can’t figure out what to eat today, drinking lots of water, trying to rest up but am too excited to sit still for long, what time to go to bed to not sleep, can’t decide what time to get up, where to park for MARTA, the crowds, the heat, the humidity. Yes, it’s another Peachtree Road Race. Good luck everyone! We’re all winners for trying to finish no matter what our time is tomorrow.

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July 3rd, 2010
2:43 pm

R & R ? It's taper time! | AJC Peachtree Road Race Tips…

I found your entry interesting do I’ve added a Trackback to it on my weblog :)

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Inspiration

July 3rd, 2010
5:02 pm

After racing 16 times and watching the PRR many times the wheelchair racers are the best part of the race. How do they manage to get up those hills –and so fast!!

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Rich

July 3rd, 2010
7:45 pm

First time runner. Woohoo!!!!!

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Jeez Louise

July 3rd, 2010
9:26 pm

AJC, you or whoever has been running a really screwed up race this year already. I don’t want to even bother waking up tomorrow after that fiasco at America’s Mart and now I realize there are no pins in my number envelope.

You’re running this 10K just about as well as you’ve ran your newspaper the past 3 years.

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US Wizard

July 4th, 2010
7:13 am

What the Hell is going on? I woke up at 7:00 to watch the race and it was nowhere to be found. I finally got the newspaper, and also checked the TV programming–nothing. Could somebody tell me what is going on? There was absolutely no word regarding the race, including when it would be televised–nothing but an article re Craig Virgin. Shouldn’t complain, I guess. Haven’t liked the race for some years now, since it became international. But I had formed a ritual of watching it on TV, as I liked to watch the real people in the back of the pack. US Wizard

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Damon Evans

July 4th, 2010
7:22 am

I’m first across the line and I’m wearing nothing but red panties.

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Jonathan

July 4th, 2010
7:31 am

Wow, you actually managed to leave out the winning time for the men. Yet, you managed to get in the time for the best-placed american. How objective of you.

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ATLNTA

July 4th, 2010
8:37 am

this races belongs to Kenyans kudos both of you

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scrooge

July 4th, 2010
9:20 am

How much did he/she win for a 1st place finish?

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ExRunner

July 4th, 2010
9:20 am

Nineteen seconds is more than “just a few seconds off the course record.” In running, 19 seconds is eternity.

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HAUL-N -AZZ

July 4th, 2010
9:25 am

I CAME N 1ST!!!

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Rob

July 4th, 2010
9:25 am

This was my favorite of the five designs. I’m glad it won!

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Paul

July 4th, 2010
9:35 am

I ran it in 47:06.

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Arthur Blank

July 4th, 2010
9:38 am

Bye Bye Damon Evans!!!

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John McRae

July 4th, 2010
9:51 am

Great conditions this year. Happy to have set a personal best at the Peachtree in my last one for a while. The wife and I go where the Army takes us next year…

Happy Fourth!

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Wreckmaniac

July 4th, 2010
10:25 am

Awesome design ! Perhaps the best ever. I would love to buy one but thats the point of the Peachtree.
The shirt goes only to the participants and thats as it should be.

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Captain Crunch

July 4th, 2010
11:01 am

Fun race today. Though it would be nice to someday see an American win again, at least Moran was in the ballpark.

And thanks so much to the selfish idiotic woman who was in such a hurry to cut a few seconds off of her 1 hour and 25 minute finish time that she banged hard into my wife, sending her to the med tent. Stupid woman didn’t even stop or apologize.

Folks if you’re just jogging or walking most of the race, sprinting the last 100 meters to the finish is just foolhardy and dangerous to others. If you want to run at breakneck speed, get in shape, enter a regular 10k, and qualify for one of the faster timegroups. Otherwise, slow down and be respectful to the other 54,999 people in the race.

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Rich

July 4th, 2010
11:06 am

He was lucky my shoes came untied: I was gonna catch them!

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Mike

July 4th, 2010
11:25 am

Great conditions to race in today. Apparently it was a great finish but you would not have seen it on Fox 5 this year. The coverage by Fox 5 has been exceptional in years past but it was dismal this year (basically no coverage). I would encourage everyone to call/email Fox 5 and show your displeasure (404-875-5555)). I am also contacting the ATC to congratulate them on another great race and mention to them that Fox 5 needs to cover the race or the ATC needs to find another network.

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CyberSpiff

July 4th, 2010
11:59 am

Congratulations to the organizers and volunteers for another great Peachtree. This was the best yet! Thank you all for your hard work, dedication, and support.

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Tim

July 4th, 2010
1:00 pm

was hoping for my own category – 58yrs olds who smoked for 40 yrs (quit 2 mos ago). just finished my first Peachtree in 1:19 or so and didn’t die!

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Bobby

July 4th, 2010
1:53 pm

I have no sympathy for you. All you had to do was submit a time. The ATC website clear that if you submitted no time there were no guarantees where you would randomly be put. Quit whining. And next year submit a time.

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Samatva

July 4th, 2010
2:13 pm

Finished in just over 57 min this year – my goal was to break the one-hour mark too… and do even better as a 50-year-old next year!

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Anthony

July 4th, 2010
9:00 pm

Sure wish my d-tag would have worked… UGH!!!!!!!!!! Any suggestions on someone that can help find my results?

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Gen Neyland

July 5th, 2010
7:55 am

Well, well. Mr. McCosh did it. Congrats. Gotta ask : Coming down 10th St, were there any doubts..?

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Gen Neyland

July 5th, 2010
8:12 am

Congrats on your time. What was it like running in clean air..? Publix did a GREAT job with the munchies they provided. Still, toooo many lining up in the wrong Start Waves. Instead of moving back to run with family/friends, some still persist in moving forward. It’ll never end. Thx to the volunteers at the start for catching a few of ‘em. Rules are not always meant to be broken…1:00:32 for me in classic mid-pack form.

Jeez Louise : Lesson #12 : Remember to save your pins and reuse them, especially at the PRR. Hope your day turned out in your favor.

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John McCosh

July 5th, 2010
8:31 am

Plenty of doubts coming down 10th, Gen Neyland. I knew it would be close and tried to shadow faster runners picking holes through the crowd. I’m a little unsure if I “did it” since I was supposed to finish under an hour. But I’ll hash that one out tomorrow. I hope you had a great time yesterday morning and I appreciate your comments and good wishes.

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Scott Helms

July 6th, 2010
7:15 am

You broke the hour threshold. The reason I say this is because it is impossible to have “run the tangent line”. Wearing my Garmin, with fancy, schmancy GPS, I measured the course at 6.31 miles (a full 8/100ths of a mile longer than official). So crack open a bottle of champagne, smoke one of your cigars, and celebrate. You did it! Congrats!

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Troy

July 6th, 2010
7:21 am

You did a great job. This was my first Peachtree and I finshed in 1:32:15. Not bad for a over 300+ pounder. I hope I can shave 15 min off my time yearly like you did. Keep up the good work

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bigdogears

July 6th, 2010
7:30 am

My goal was 44:00 and I beat it by almost 30 seconds (handicapped with a full bladder and only 3 hours sleep). I really expected to do much better! Here’s a tip. Many in my group couldn’t enter the gate until after the race started. When we got in I waited about 20 seconds to let my group spread out. The first mile was still crowded by my time didn’t start until after I crossed over the starting mat. Next year it’s sub-seeded for me!

Congratulations to all the finishers (and those that didn’t). I’ve enjoyed the blog and look forward to next year. Only 363 days left to train!

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Cooper

July 6th, 2010
8:15 am

I agree with the above — my garmin measured course at 6.31 miles also. Shave that off your time and you did it!

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PJ

July 6th, 2010
9:35 am

Agreed, my husband and I both had garmins and they registered “overage” also. So, you probably did it in 59:30 (30 seconds was what my “finish time” was over according to the clock and my garmin watch). I also had the same goal 59:59 and it took me 1:02.45!!! So close but there is always next year. My first 3 miles were 28:30 so I was right on track to do it but like you, cardiac hill and the hills on 5 (which are worse to me) kicked my butt! Great job and looking forward to next year!

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John McCosh

July 7th, 2010
12:55 pm

Thanks for the shout out, Lauren. Your posts gave me some great ideas and motivation. I’m already planning my training for a 10k in September. Can’t believe I just typed that.

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Under60Gal

July 7th, 2010
8:36 pm

Your blog made me laugh. I, too, had a goal of running the Peachtree in under an hour. I was amazed to see my clock time came out to 59:59. Maybe it was that extra kick leaving the port-a-potty in mile 2 that did it for me. :)

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RunninClear

January 11th, 2011
7:34 pm

Wish there was a guarantee for 5 year vets!! This will be my sixth. The more the merrier. Peachtree needs to stay the biggest!

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NativeAtlantan

January 11th, 2011
9:33 pm

Sounds like some good, positive changes. More good than bad. With the new start wave format last year, it makes sense to offer up the race to more people! The lottery will not be a welcomed change, but it probably the most fair.

2011 will by my 20th Peachtree in a row. Can’t wait.

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Dennis Murray

January 12th, 2011
9:27 am

Would be nice if there were some enhanced consideration for people who run races year-round and work on qualifying times for the Peachtree.

Otherwise, I might just let it be just another 10k.

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Pete Van Weird

January 12th, 2011
10:39 am

Hey, great! Finally all the jog nazis have their way!! Wonder what the local Atlanta hotels, bars, and bistros think? Restriction. This was not the idea of the race in the first place

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early bird flown the coop

January 12th, 2011
12:08 pm

Time was if you put forth effort and got up Saturday morning to find a Sunday edition of the paper, fill out the form, write your check –you knew you were in. For the last couple of years with on-line registration it meant logging in timely and filling out the application.

Now it doesn’t matter, your lumped in with everyone else –even if you submit your on-line application within the first hour of open registration and have run 20 Peachtree’s, by way of lottery you could lose out to a first-timer who registered 15 minutes prior to closing.

I suppose an Atlanta Track Club membership is the way around this. Hmmm, wonder who’s idea it was to change things up …the ATC maybe!?

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Dawn

January 27th, 2011
1:00 pm

I would love to see the one from two years ago (2009) which did not win – the multicolored shoe print! Loved it and voted for it, but alas it did not win.

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Gael

February 14th, 2011
10:47 am

A question rather than a comment.
Can someone break down the qualifying times to the different waves? If I don’t run one of these road races but did participate in last year’s PTRR, does that finish time place me into a certain wave? Thanks…
-Gael-

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Josh

February 16th, 2011
11:34 am

I like this system better than last year because it should avoid a system crash. Allowing a lottery provides opportunities for all to register regardless of what they have going on at one moment on a Saturday. I LOVE the option to register as a group, because that way it means either my wife and I are both in or neither of us are in, and we don’t have one running while the other mopes- this will make the trip to Atlanta (if we get in) more worthwhile if both of us are in. Though, I DO kind of like how the Boston Marathon is giving preference to the faster runners and allowing them to register 2 weeks early.

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Pete

February 16th, 2011
11:44 am

You should have sticked with the “First come, first served” way. Most serious runners are diligent people. There should be a reward for diligence. The runners/walkers that are commited enough to set aside time to register for the race on the day that registration opens should be able to run in the event. I understand that there have been server problems. I also recall being diligent enough to keep trying until I successfully registered. Another negative outcome of this “swell” lottery system will likely be an increased number of inconsiderate people that walk in the far left lanes. They’re the people that were most likely to procrastinate in the past and had probably been unable to register in the past because they did not take the effort to register on the day the registration opened. Now they’re going to have an easier time causing “traffic jams”, injuries, slower times, etc. when they walk in the far left lane since they will be able to wait until the last minute and have an equal opportunity to successfully register. It’s not to late to return to the old way of registering. Please don’t stick with the lottery system.

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Gael

February 16th, 2011
12:16 pm

Should have been kept the old way for sure! As far as system issue of last year…the geekheads should now know what needs to be done to accommodate the load.

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Damian

February 16th, 2011
12:43 pm

I, too, am not pleased w/ the lottery plan. As Pete stated, diligence is key. In the past, the PRR was two “races”…a race to get registered, and then the race itself on July 4th. There has to be similarly popular races across the country that use a fool-proof first-come-first-serve on-line registration…or how about Ticketmaster? When a popular concert is announced, how do they handle the throngs of requests to buy tickets as soon as tickets go on sale?
The lottery-style registration announcement was a huge disappointment. Expand the race to 60k runners is awesome, but getting registered is now a game of chance.(?) Thanks, y’all.

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Randy

February 16th, 2011
1:09 pm

No matter what you do, a lot of people aren’t going to be happy. No question that it was time to move into the 21st century and out of the paper registration era, and the last couple of years of online registration weren’t without significant issues. Having said that… it seems like the system should reward people who are “regulars” and have a dedication to the event but also allows some new blood to participate each year. What about a dual lottery system: Reserve most of the registrations for a returning runner lottery and a smaller number for a new participants lottery?

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BS

February 16th, 2011
4:23 pm

I think this system is going to do nothing but open it up for online ticketing agencies to grab Peachtree Road Race numbers and repost them on Ebay/Stubhub for 10 times the price. Crying FOUL all the way to the start line!!!

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John

February 16th, 2011
4:38 pm

I’m with Randy. I’ve run it 4 straight years and 6 times total. They ought to automatcially provide a spot for those who can run it under 55 minutes/1 hour (within a 2 year period) or run it 10 consecutive years. Maybe take a 50% lottery from times between 55 minutes to 1 hour 15 minutes, 75% lottery for 1st timers and those running it over 1 hour 30 minutes. Maybe they ought to build a “points” system that allows for times and or # of times running the Peachtree. You would lose points if you didn’t get a # 2 consecutive years in a row. I’d just hate to lose out on a chance to run knowing that some sap that want’s to walk it is taking my place. I also don’t want to see some people’s consecutive streaks broken, be it 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, 40 years, etc. over a lottery.

I do like the group idea. There are so many folks who want to run together and can’t because of their numbers.

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DS

February 16th, 2011
4:47 pm

DO NOT LIKE! I will be EXTREMELY P**SED if I don’t get in and some STUPID WALKER does. I agree with Pete’s comments. Furthermore, the system should take into consideration those who ran say 7 or 8 out of ten years, not just 10 consecutive years. Personally, I would feel even more offended as I moved from Atlanta for 2 recent years, and will now be FORCED to essentially start over for the PREFERENCE. Had I not been away, I would have hit number 10 this past year.

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Jeff

February 16th, 2011
4:49 pm

I’m glad to get rid of the paper entries, but it’s ridiculous to give the serious runner who busts his tail all year round training for the race the same treatment as the shirtless clown walking the race sucking Natural light through his beer hat. It’s just wrong.

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Philanthropist

February 16th, 2011
4:49 pm

The Junior League’s Shamrock N’ Roll Race on March 13 is amazing! All of the proceeds benefit over 90 charities throughout metro Atlanta that focus on women and children at risk. They also have a technical t-shirt and great race bags! It’s family and dog-friendly and there’s some amazing prizes for the finishers with strollers, dogs, kilts, etc. You can register on active.com. This really is a great race for a wonderful cause!

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rp

February 16th, 2011
5:03 pm

It should have been left the same.I have ran over 20 Peachtrees and never had a problem with the old system….

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Runnin' on empty

February 16th, 2011
5:10 pm

Good list of races… very helpful and informative. I hope you can add to this list and update it throughout the year.

The races at Berry College on March 5 are awesome… great location, great scenery, good course, and a well-run event.

With weather like we’ve had this week, we’ll see a lot more people getting ready for races this spring and summer!

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Burt

February 16th, 2011
5:37 pm

Do you get in automatically if you have a certain time? e.g. if you have a qualifier in under 48 (or 42 or 55) are you guaranteed a slot?

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Jeff

February 16th, 2011
6:35 pm

No Burt, you don’t. That’s why all of the real runners are unhappy.

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Brazen Unicorn

February 16th, 2011
6:41 pm

Can’t please everyone. People will always find something to complain about one way or another.

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Kevin

February 16th, 2011
7:03 pm

Agree with the comments about serious runners getting bumped for people walking who just want so say they “finished the Peachtree.” It is a race, after all, although it has become more of an event over the years. A lot of runners look forward to this race the whole year, and many of them are going to be on the sidelines watching people enjoying a stroll down Peachtree on the way to their two-hour finish time.

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aps

February 16th, 2011
7:36 pm

Let’s not forget that the online system did not work the first year either. The best thing was the last two years the online system failed plus WE had to pay a fee for it not to work. The new director really screwed the registration process up.

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the pitts

February 16th, 2011
7:41 pm

this really is the pitts i have ran for 24 yrs straight was looking forward to number 25 if i don’t make it in i will be really p.o.’d and call it quits

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New Runner

February 17th, 2011
1:00 pm

I’m not a fan of the lottery system but I think if the so-called ‘real runners’ want to run that badly, then do what I did and buy an ATC membership. I won’t have one of the fastest finish times, but I will run it and enjoy myself. Last year was my first time running the PRR and I hope to make it an annual tradition.

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just the truth

February 17th, 2011
3:15 pm

Adding 5k is the worse thing possible. That means 5k more walkers for the ones that work it. It’s getting later and later in the day as it is. It’s all about money and the extra 5k are just pot builders.

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Converted Cyclist

February 17th, 2011
3:29 pm

Makes me glad I quit the thing 6 years ago!!

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Forrest Gump

February 17th, 2011
3:36 pm

What anal-retentive “Real Runners”!!! I sure hope me and the other “Stupid Walkers” get some good numbers and slow y’all down. Shut up and enjoy yourself unless your name is Dukmumbe Mumbumbji and you plan on running and winning the thing! Get a life!

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Love it!

February 17th, 2011
3:40 pm

Since there is no NASCAR Race this spring for our gang to go to, we are going to register as a group and hopefully all 30 of us can go together. It will be one big rolling tail gate party – all of us spread across the street dragging our wheeled coolers full of Natty Lites. Maybe some of the gals will get lit enough to flash some of the spectators. I do hope they put a lot of butt cans out. We hate to throw our Camels down on the street.

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Glenis

February 17th, 2011
4:24 pm

SUGGESTION: One PRR for the “elite and professionals” followed by the healthy minded who want to get into the spirit of the event but are less competitive. Wont cost the city a dime more.

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Bill

February 17th, 2011
4:45 pm

I liked the old way. The people who take the time and register early get rewarded. I also think that they should give some consideration to the runners who have submitted a time. The race would go much smoother if you had the majority of the people running. It is, afterall, called the Peachtree Road RACE. Not the Peachtree jump in at the first mile marker and walk in the middle of the Road Race. I hate the lazy walkers that I pass going up Cardiac Hill and they have a number that indicates their group hasn’t even started yet. If you’re going to wear the t-shirt, complete the entire 6.2 miles.

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tee

February 17th, 2011
4:46 pm

I do not participate but I agree that it should be a stipulation for those who consective run in this race 5 years or more. The walkers just want to get a t-shirt. What is the percentage of walkers in this race. This is a race and you should be running. If you want to walk go to the trail or a park and stop wasting the runner’s time.

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Miss Atlanta Falcons

February 17th, 2011
5:31 pm

Now, hold on ya’ll with all the dispariging comments about walkers! I am a walker and am proud to have accomplished my first PRR 2 years ago, a goal I set and was very excited that I was able to complete. No one should NOT be able to get in because they walk! Next you’ll say no people w/disabilities should be allowed ( i know they go first…but still)
As for this new system, it’s dumb. I like many of you set aside all other business on the day that registration was to begin. Yes, it was frustrating but the problems of last year could’ve been easily fixed. There is nothing like registerin and KNOWING RIGHT THEN you were in!
I do have a question though: What if someone registeres with a group AND goes ahead and registers as an individual as well just in case the group doesnt get in or vice versa? What if they both get in, that means someone will have TWO numbers for the PRR! Do they have provisions to work against that? (or..do I even want them to…I may even do myself, now that I think about it)
Good Luck everyone! And I promise as always I will walk on the right!

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Miss Atlanta Falcons

February 17th, 2011
5:42 pm

@Tee, it’s funny how you say you “DONT PARTICIPATE” but you KNOW that “ALL WALKERS just do it to get a Tshirt” . Why would you even make a comment on something you know absolutely NOTHING about? If walkers do it for the tshirt, what is the benefit to runners. People that walk have goals and ambitions just like the runners. There is no monetary benefit to do the PRR to runners as 99% of them will not win the prize anyway (there are only a few people that win every year). So runners do it for personal accomplisment..but walkers to it for the Tshirt? You sound dumb. The best way to not sound dumb is 1)Do not make comments on an issue you know nothing about & 2) Refrain from making assumptions about the intentions of tens of thousands of people whom you’ve never met before. I suggest you make a personal goal and aspire to accomplish it, maybe you wouldn’t have time to knock other people who do!
I am a proud WALKER of the PRR! I walked over 6 miles and lived to tell it…let me see you do more than run your mouth and do that!

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Runner4years

February 17th, 2011
6:42 pm

Dear Walkers:
This is the “Peachtree Road Race”. What part of a 10k race involves walking? If you want to walk, do it on the sideWALK. If you can’t be bothered to race, don’t enter. I find it amazing that all these walkers have the energy to get on their soapbox regarding the Peachtree yet never show up for the many 10ks all over the Atlanta area during the course of the year; I race in many of them and the walkers are nearly always absent. Hypocrites.

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Josh Holland

February 17th, 2011
7:20 pm

TOTALLY DISAAPOINTED – im never lucky to win a lottery. Considering that i have done the race three years in a row and ran it under 45minutes each time i hope the system will be smart enough to zero in on that.

ATL Race you suck… :-(

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jeffv

February 17th, 2011
7:24 pm

Couldn’t be more disappointed in the lottery…I like the intiative it takes to make plans to register early, this discourages those of us who have raced for years….absolutely HUGE error, previous director would NEVER have done this.

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Jeff

February 17th, 2011
7:39 pm

I checked out last year’s results — 75% of the runners had times greater than one hour. With the US10KClassic, a MUCH tougher course, it was 50%. I think this year I’ll treat the PRR as the goofball parade and get serious with the US10KClassic.

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Jeff

February 17th, 2011
7:39 pm

(assuming of course I win the lottery)

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PCRacer

February 17th, 2011
9:22 pm

I’m aghast. This new system is just RACIST.

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Nancy

February 18th, 2011
1:00 pm

I just want the shirt. When I get my number I’ll give to an ousted runner if you give me the t-shirt when you finish, otherwise I’m getting my walker ready.

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Brian

February 18th, 2011
6:57 pm

Gael (and others)-
You’ll find the qualifying standards for each wave of the Peachtree Road Race at http://www.peachtreeroadrace.org/documents/download/2011-peachtree-start-wave-time-standards
or you can just go to the peachtreeroadrace.org website and click through the FAQ|Start Wave selections to get that information.

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Devil Dog Runner

February 19th, 2011
7:36 am

This is absurd. The race has become a joke anyway because of so many walkers. And now people who have the initiative to get their app in early are piled in with the other 60,000. And to be fair, there should be two shirts. The Peachtree Road Race shirt, and one that says “Me and my fat a** took a leisurely stroll down Peachtree Street on the 4th of July.”

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Bill Mackinnon

February 19th, 2011
7:55 am

MY, MY-The derisive comments/name calling about walkers smack of the political discourse and pandering that passes for conversation these days among our elected politicians. It is clearly elitist. We are all equal. I ran the PRR for 6 years on one repaired knee, until the other had to be repaired. It was a great experience. If I could do it now, it would be a walk run. I would hate to think the positive energy and mass support would only be for those who can do it under the magic hour. The lottery may work because it gives all who register a chance for the coveted t-shirt.

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Billyboy

February 19th, 2011
8:14 am

The lottery and on-line is a good thing, but, you have to have “smart” exceptions. The simple exception would be if you have run a previous PRR in 55 minutes or less in the last 10 years, then, you qualify, plus, if you have participated in 5 of the last 10 years, you qualify.

How did they miss these simple smart exceptions. You still have a chance to get it right.

I have participated in 21 PPR and all under 50 minutes, my children have participated in 10, 7, 4, 2, and 1 race. It appears now we may not be able to run as a family.

I hope the PPR team reviews their plans, and does the smart move. I guess we will see.

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RW

February 19th, 2011
10:15 pm

You should ONLY GET A SHIRT if you do the race in UNDER 1 HOUR. I think that’s the way it used to be right? And I think that if you post a qualifying time, you should automatically get in.

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RW

February 19th, 2011
10:16 pm

PS. I don’t mind the walkers. They should just get a higher number (and maybe not get in the left lane, please :) )

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21st Race

February 19th, 2011
10:23 pm

This will be no. 21 for me and if I do not get in (even though they say ’streakers’ will be given preference) I will not be happy. I used to enjoy getting up early on Saturday morning to get an early edition of the paper to get the application in the mail on Saturday…..it was almost as big a tradition as the race itself!!!!

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zeke

February 19th, 2011
11:49 pm

GO BACK TO THE MAIL IN ENTRY FROM THE AJC! I have worked hard over the years to gain entry! I figured out to get the early edition of the paper, then rush to find a post office open on Saturday to mail it! Worked great for about 15 years or so until you morons at the track club decided to tell EVERYBODY to do that! Sure enough, I MISSED THE 25TH BECAUSE I DID NOT GET IN! Now you have decided it is not fair to reward those of us intelligent enough, who diligently work to get our entry in to be able to gain entry! So now you are going to do a lottery “to be fair to everyone” in the entry process! Sounds like a bunch of liberal near do wells to me! GO BACK TO THE PAPER ENTRY!!!!

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From 70s

February 20th, 2011
12:31 am

I always thought the ones who were ready and just had to get tickets would be the first ones in line. Old folks like me would just wait til the last day to apply. Maybe you should make people drive down to Atlanta and pick up tickets the first few days and do a lottery with the rest. That would give the hard core runners a better chance.

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Really?

February 20th, 2011
7:27 am

Why must everything that is an unfavorable change be racist? Seems like that’s the trend these days. I’m not a fan of the change either, but what can we do about it? It’s a decision that has been made and now we have to deal with the change, like many other things in life. Put your big kid pants on and go with it!

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Lori

February 20th, 2011
8:00 am

@Pete – “serious runners” as you call them are likely to be members of the Atlanta Track Club and are given an early registration period before the lottery. I don’t see the field being hurt by this process where runners will be shut out and more walkers allowed in.

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madmommy

February 20th, 2011
8:18 am

Just a comment, I hate the new way this is going down. I have run the PRR for the past 10 years and this just seems like a push to get runners to join the ATC as this is now the only way to ensure you get a number. I could see if they made people enter in a race time to weed out all the “non-runners” who run each year, but I will be highly upset if I don’t get a number this year.

Good luck to everyone going out for a number or who is running a qualifier in the upcomming weekends. I’m sure I will see you out there as I am hoping to move up this year.

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Gen Neyland

February 20th, 2011
8:35 am

After last years PRR I began to wonder if a bandit should be considered a lower life form than the ones that broke the rule of moving to faster time Waves from the lower end of the alphabet. It gnawed on me that those folks took up space in a Wave they didn’t belong…
As far as the longer sign up period goes, we’re still gonna see runners jilted on their start times. For many it won’t truly matter to move from D to E but for those that get moved back and play by the rules to see K,M,T’s hanging in the D corral is pitiful…

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Lee

February 20th, 2011
11:14 pm

How lame is this decision! So much for our 4th of July annual event!

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Miss Atlanta Falcons

March 15th, 2011
6:51 am

The people who complain about runners must forget at one point in their life they were walkers first. It’s called the Peachtree Road Race…it is not the Peachtree Road Run! It is such an elitest attitude to believe that anyone who wants to participate should wait until they can run it. Then when you get that wish you’ll complain about the people who don’t run as fast as you THINK they should. Yeah their may be some etiquette issues with walkers but isnt the same true for LIFE! A lack of Road Race etiquette seems a convient excuse as to why a person didn’t complete a goal. I am a walker and proud to have completed my 1st peachtree 2 years ago and have made it a tradition. This will be my 3rd year registering and one day i hope to be a runner. But until I am physically able to do so, I will walk the hell out of the Peachtree Road Race, Collect my t-shirt, and thank God for allowing me to do something I never though I would be able to do in the first place. Walk from Perimeter mall to Piedmont park and live to tell the story. Anybody that doesnt like it can kick rocks…before,during, or after the road race…
Happy Moving @ your own pace and completing your personal goals and good luck in getting in! (Cry babies)

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Wes Breeding

March 15th, 2011
6:53 am

If the walkers or slower runners would be in the group that they belong it would open the race up for everyone to do their best. The people that are on the course between the start and the one mile mark and jump-in the race seem to be the problem. If you are going to jump-in after the start at least wait for your number group to come by. Does anyone know a person that has not got the Peachtree Shirt?

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Beth

March 15th, 2011
7:35 am

It’s not the walkers who line up near the back that I have issues with, it’s the people who jump in a quarter mile to 2 miles into the race. Every single year you see hundreds of people with numbers standing on the side of the road for the 1st couple miles, ready to jump in when they feel like it. Easier said than done I know, but ideally the Peachtree should have volunteers along the course looking for that and writing down numbers, and the jumpers should be banned from the Peachtree for several years if they get caught doing that. It’s a 10k, not an 8 or 9k.

And if you absolutely have zero conscience and jump in, at least wait for your proper group to do so!

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Jeff Gebhardt

March 15th, 2011
7:37 am

Miss Atlanta Falcon. This is not about runners versus walkers, this is about the system that has been in place for years. If you race your best and you walk it then that is fine but you are so rare. Thousands walk this casually and more than likely thousands more will now. This is a race and it is a race to get your best time and not walk casually chatting with a friend. If you are actually racing, walking or running, then you do not have a chance to hold a conversation because you should be out of breath. The disappointing thing here is that those of us who have raced to get the paper and raced to get our application in the mail for years now stand a real good chance of being left out and we lose our spot to a walker who is not racing. That is the problem. You spoke of the lack of road race etiquette and yet here you are calling names, who really has the etiquette. I am a runner, walker, and biker and I love traditions and unfortunately The Peachtree Road Race lost a lot of its tradition this year.

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K Smith

March 15th, 2011
8:17 am

I moved to Ga july 4th of 2008. I heard about the Peachtree and thought, “Hmm, that sounds like fun, maybe next year”. In 2009 I again thought “Next year”, but didn’t start running. Again in 2010, only this time I started running. I went from barely being able to run for 2 minutes to completing my first 5K in Nov. Now I run 3-4 days a week, sometimes more. I was really looking forward to running my first Peachtree, finally, and I’m disappointed that there’s a chance it wont happen.

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Pete

March 15th, 2011
8:18 am

I don’t mind people walking the Peachtree. They have as much right to be in the Peachtree as anyone else. The Peachtree is a lot of fun for both runners and walkers. What bothers me are the walkers that are inconsiderate enough to ignore the instructions to stay in the far right lanes. I understand that a lot of people get tired on Cardiac Hill. However, there is a big difference between walking SOME of Cardiac Hill in the left lanes and walking MOST of the 10K in the far left lane. I certainly don’t want to leave the impression that I’m an elitist. I’d need to have a much faster time for me to have the right to be an elitist. My point is that there could be safety issues if people insist on walking most of the Peachtree in the far left lanes. 55,000+ is a lot of people and injuries can occur if people ignore race etiquette.

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Chris

March 15th, 2011
8:18 am

There is no reason not to give preference to those with a qualifier time of less than an hour or even an hour and fifteen minutes (which is about what it takes to be in the top 25,000).

It’s even the best thing for the track club, and peoples health in general. If you want to run the Peachtree, why not run the other great 10k’s all around Atlanta?

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Sali

March 15th, 2011
8:25 am

Join the Atlanta Track Club and register early to get your bib # as well as valuable training tips, running partners, discounts on ATC races, etc. If you’re a runner, why aren’t you supporting the running club that puts this on? Just sayin…

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Annette

March 15th, 2011
8:47 am

I have a little trouble taking most newspaper commenters seriously, especially when they write things like “You should have sticked with the ‘First come, first served’ way.” The lottery system seems like the best way to address the issues that the ATC has had with online registration the past two years.

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Christian

March 15th, 2011
8:54 am

I think this is being overblown. I have just registered for what will hopefully be my 6th PTRR since moving to Atlanta in 2001. There was 1 time since then that I did not get in. They increased to 55,000 and I believe, based on 2010 numbers, there is potentially 1,000 individuals that might not get in. I do like the suggestion from Chris above that, if you are submitting a qualifying time, those individuals should be given bibs before walkers. For those complaining about walkers, consider the fact that at least they are getting out and doing some form of exercise. Kudos to all that participate. Hope to see you there this year.

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Heather

March 15th, 2011
9:21 am

I’ve run the Peachtree for many years, and have never had any problem getting a number…but I don’t understand why the change in registration procedures this year. I thought the online registration the past two years was great, and a huge improvement over the older method of waiting late at night for the newspaper and having to mail in the registration first thing…
I’m having to do a “group” registration this year because my 13 year old daughter ran her first Peachtree last year (in under an hour), and I don’t want her to get a number and me not get one…don’t want her to have to run by herself! Hopefully we’ll get in!
WALKERS…PLEASE JUST STAY TO THE RIGHT, GO WITH YOUR GROUP, AND START AT THE STARTING LINE, THEN NO ONE WILL HAVE REASON TO COMPLAIN! Everyone has a right to participate, and hey…if someone wants to walk for 90 minutes on a hot July morning to get a t-shirt and enjoy the festivities…at least they’re getting 90 minutes of exercise!

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Gen Neyland

March 15th, 2011
9:51 am

The PRR has become it’s own worst enemy by working hard to remain The World’s Largest 10K. Last year, I felt the PRR was evolving to try and accomodate the Runner’s amongst us. Sadly, as I stood in my earned Start Wave F, I saw too many bib numbers that moved forward from LMNOP etc to join us. Those people rank up there with bandits, IMHO. My suggestion to the ajc and ATC is to MANDATE a qualifying time for runners upon registration ala the Boston Marathon. Become more aware and strict in keeping the people honestly in their prescribed Start Waves. As for the Walkers, Run-Walkers and Runners w/o times to submit, I have no problem. Just sort them out accordingly. We’re truly running against the clock with the timing chip in the PRR nowadays. All can be accomodated but it’ll mean enforcement of the PRR’s own policies. A good time can be had by all when the rules are followed.

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Eileen

March 15th, 2011
9:55 am

What is the problem? If you are faster, enter a qualifying time and get put in the proper order. The Track Club has gone to great effort to organize starting waves for a reason. Besides, this event (world’s largest 10k) was 55000 people, inceased to 60000. You think you are going to PR in Atlanta in July? Really? I have done 100s of race across the globe. This event is affectionately refered to as a “pa-race”, as in a parade/race.
I love this event. It is my favorite thing about this city. Y’all don’t screw it up by fussing.

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13timer

March 15th, 2011
10:09 am

So I understand the lottery gives ‘consideration’ to anyone who’s run PRR 10 timers or more. Does that mean if you enter as a group, as opposed to as an individual, that ‘consideration’ will transfer to the whole group, even though some of them may not have run the race 10 times?

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David L

March 15th, 2011
10:15 am

I am a walker, not a runner. I have two bad knees, one with virtually no cartilage. I have been wanting to “do” the Peachtree for years but had surgery on my left knee three years ago and surgery on my right knee two years ago. Last year was my first Peachtree. My goal was to average 15 minute miles (total time 1 hour 33 minutes) – by no stretch a casual walk. I completed the race in 1 hour and 27 minutes and beat my goal. Unless I have a knee replacement, I will never be able to “run” the race. I’d like the runners out there to tell me why I should be excluded from the opportunity to participate.

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BlahBlahBlah

March 15th, 2011
10:19 am

If getting into the Peachtree is THAT IMPORTANT then you should pay the $35 a year to join the Atlanta Track Club. You’re guaranteed admission into the race.

Seems like an extra $35 is a small price to pay to avoid the stress of possibly not getting in.

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Gen Neyland

March 15th, 2011
10:36 am

Eileen : I understand your sentiments but the issue isn’t about PR’s at the PRR. Yes, it’s a great time at the PRR but can be made a better time for people that play fairly, are placed squarely and allow the Runners out there that came to race the course the opportunity to race the course. They should be awarded the privledge to do so just like the seeded and the elites up front or the walkers in the back. To be a runner encumbered by the lumbering is a bummer when the runner straps on a timing chip, PR or not. Go do the U.S. 10K Classic in Cobb County and see what I mean..! It’s a hard race where those that know their capabilities stay outta of the way of the Jack Rabbits, especially at the start.

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Annette

March 15th, 2011
10:38 am

Some of you take this way too seriously.

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Reid in EAV

March 15th, 2011
10:50 am

The problem with this thread is that we’re not going to hear from the people who are actually the problem: those who aren’t in any semblance of shape and who casually stroll the entire course, usually somewhere in the middle of the road. People who walk briskly because they can’t run the whole way, for whatever reason — no problem. But I think the running community is up in arms because after some of us have gone to the trouble to run qualifiers and get start wave placements (which I did a few weeks back at the Charles Harris 10K) might not get a number in the lottery system, while a casual walker might. That just seems wrong.

Granted, it’s not a huge issue, because ATC membership by Feb. 28 will take care of it (and you get a lot more than preferred P’tree placement with membership; a good deal for a serious runner — I joined up myself) but while a lottery is “fair” (i.e. equally unfair) to all, it isn’t entirely fair to those who plan to race the course.

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b

March 15th, 2011
10:53 am

Eileen: As someone who has ran the PRR and qualified and lined up in my starting corral it doesn’t take a genious to look around and notice that the “E” corral is filled with people from the J,K,L or farther back corrals.

The issue is that people do take the time to qualify, yet the volunteers do not supervise the corrals properly. Truthfully, if the volunteers would do their job and tell the person with the K on their bib to not get in the E corral a lot of the conjestion wouldn’t happen. And like others have mentioned, participants line the street and decide when they want to hop in and finish… that too needs to be monitored.

Yes, this should be a fun event but the inability to RACE a race makes you want to think twice about doing it again.

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Gen Neyland

March 15th, 2011
10:57 am

Annette : Some of us are serious runners…

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Team Runners

March 15th, 2011
11:00 am

I understand that people have certain medical problems and I am impressed that they continue to participate in the race. However, it is called the “Peachtree Road Race”….RACE….

I wish it wouldn’t come down to this. But I think it is crazy that a person who never trains for this race and walks it in 2 hours gets in over a person who puts the work in and gives it their best effort..

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Mary

March 15th, 2011
11:35 am

The people that have previously ran/walked the race and are upset that they will lose the lottery this year should try again next year if they don’t get in. It really is that simple.

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Pat21

March 15th, 2011
12:24 pm

Walkers are fine, as long as they follow the rules and start with their time group just like everyone else.

The only problem I have are the people who jump on to the course in the last mile and start walking when the faster runners haven’t even finished yet.

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Kim

March 15th, 2011
12:53 pm

I’m not seeing how this year’s PRR lottery system is any different from the lottery system from years past when you had to get the paper and submit your entry in the mail. Was that not a lottery system, too?

If I get in, this will be my 9th PRR. For the first time I submitted a qualifying time and I’m hoping that will get me in before someone who does not submit a time. If it does, great. If it doesn’t, I’ll be disappointed but it’s not the end of the world.

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MB

March 15th, 2011
3:06 pm

Its not the elitist attitude of runners; its the entitled attitude of walkers that cannot bother to follow the rules. I run, but if a faster runner is behing me I move over….is that too tough to figure out? Explains our traffic problems as well…..

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Marni Matyac

March 15th, 2011
3:39 pm

As a racewalker, I really hate being looked down upon. I train. I do speed work, just like runners do. I turned in a qualifying time to get into the appropriate wave. I stay to the right until I start smoking the casual walkers. Stop whining. If you want a guaranteed entry, join the ATC. I grudgingly did. But at least I’ll be in ATL on race day.

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Dan

March 15th, 2011
4:03 pm

Join the ATC and avoid the lottery, plus you get great opportunities to run races all year and you get the support of coaches and mentors. Look at your running as a year long endeavor and not just one day in July.

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Gen Neyland

March 16th, 2011
7:31 am

As a NE GA runner that makes few treks into Atlanta proper for any reason, much less the surrounding area to chase their events, I wouldn’t fiscally benefit from joining the ATC even for guaranteed entry to the PRR. Therefore, I’ll submit to the lottery and hope for the best that I, (A) Get in (B) Get my proper Start Wave (C) Have a good time running with like-minded individuals…

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Aspring Runner

March 16th, 2011
11:33 am

I don’t have a problem with walkers participating, but agree with earlier comments that people who are slower (including runners) need to move to the right. I think they have the right to participate just like the runners do. I personally have walked the PRR and enjoyed it greatly, and ran it for the first time last year. However, I did move to the right out of respect for others.

Based on the ATC seeding rules, if you submit a time, you’ll be grouped accordingly. Faster times, will give you an earlier start group. Slower times, later start groups. Most of these walkers and slower runners probably don’t participate in many races (if at all). But if they do, their times will likely be slower and they’ll be placed in the later groups. If they don’t have a time to submit, they will also be placed in the later groups. So, to echo an earlier comment, the real issue is the enforcement of the corrals to ensure people in the later groups don’t move up where they don’t belong. Given the new guidelines for the seeding, I hope that the ATC will put more emphasis on this aspect of the race. Regardless, I think things will flow much better than in the past.

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CynthiaD

March 16th, 2011
12:58 pm

I lived in ATL for 20 and always wanted to ‘DO’ the peachtree [I'm a walker and proud of it]. But never did. I shared the idea with a couple of girlfriends and they did it twice! I have since moved back home, but I was determined to scratch this off my list of things to do before I turn 50. Well last year I was a Peachtree Virgin[only 5 mins behind my girls]. Training for a better time this year.

Although I ended up in the medical tent from dehydration[poor planning] and lost 4 toenails, I want to do it again and again. Who knows maybe one year I will RUN, but it won’t be this year! ….I’ll be WALKING to the right! Giving you RUNNERS your props. :-) . The lottery…it is what it is. Will being MAD about it CHANGE anything? Release the negative, it dead weight! WHEN we get chosen…look for the OREO RACERS!!

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treadster

March 16th, 2011
1:12 pm

The ATC is more than a club for elite runners; it’s an advocate for Georgia’s running community. I joined the ATC for that reason and others. My PRR prep started on 7/5/10 when I had to make decisions for the 2011 race. Not everyone is that interested in the sport and I wouldn’t expect them to be. I’m glad that runners and walkers of all abilities can participate. I’m especially happy that most of them will start the race behind me. I hope everyone PR’s and don’t forget to stretch.

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Yogger

March 16th, 2011
2:05 pm

Not sure how you prevent people jumping in without a fence the entire course. I would never do it but hundreds of folks seem to not mind not running the enitre distance. The t-shirt isn’t that great that I’d live with the dishonesty of not running the full race.

Question – lots of folks talking about people jumping up in corrals. How far back do they police? I’ve been subseeded and you are not getting in that area without being checked by a race volunteer to ensure you have the proper #. Looks that way for A and B too. Does that not go on through the last corral?

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BlahBlahBlah

March 17th, 2011
5:13 am

Yogger, I was in “B” last year and it was controlled pretty well. However, once the race starts and those corrals further back start moving is when I think the problems start with “corral jumpers”

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Duluth Rick

March 17th, 2011
11:24 am

Most walkers stay to the right. Runners who hate walkers have no business even being in the race.

I have a BIG complaint. I am a walker and ALWAYS stay to the right. This is my 10th Peachtree. Every year, there are runners who weave in and out of the walkers on the right. Some even try to pass on the sidewalk. When I see a shadow of a runner approaching on that side, I intentionally stretch my arms out with a clenched fist, to try and nail them right in the face. As much as walkers should stay to the right, self-righteous runners should stay on the left.

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Re Duluth Rick

March 17th, 2011
12:29 pm

You are a loser. Why would you A. Walk in a race. B. Try to hurt someone who was actually trying to run in a race. I dont mind walkers. But people like you suck. Stay in Duluth and hate black people and runners.

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missy

March 18th, 2011
7:41 am

It appears the main issue isn’t whether walker’s are in the way of runner’s, but that a walker may get a spot instead of a runner. If this is your gripe – then join the ATC – they sure could use your support and you would have guaranteed placement in the race. I have entered the lottery and am hoping that I will be chosen. If I am, great, if not, then I will try again next year – but I would never bash on walkers just because I didn’t get a spot. Everyone has a right to participate in the race – whether they run, run/walk or walk – casually or not. It is not your place to dictate how individuals should run their race.

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John McCosh

March 18th, 2011
9:23 am

Annnnnd the voice of reason award goes to….missy!

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Donald Ruby

March 20th, 2011
8:14 am

The race would be a lot better if the walkers were in the back groups. And why limit the number of participants, just register all of the runners with legit times, then put all the walkers in back of them!!!!!!

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jump stalker

March 20th, 2011
10:16 am

Why the fuss ? Join the ATC and get a bib. Alternatively you can jump in at the halfway point/ rip a bib off another runner and claim the T-shirt.

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Chris

March 21st, 2011
8:43 am

This year will be my 4th Peachtree as a walker and let me say that in the previous 3 years I’ve participated, I’ve paid the same registration fee as everyone else, I’ve started in my number group, at the starting line, and I’ve stayed to the right as I was asked to. Despite my attempts to follow the “rules”, I still get bumped into by runners. So, to all of you runners out there….STAY TO THE LEFT!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Athlete not chair warmer

March 21st, 2011
9:49 am

Why even join if you aren’t capable of at least finishing in under 50 minutes??? Should be a requirement to prove that you have ran in at least three 5 k’s the previous years with scores needed from all three in under 30 minutes or 1 5-k ran in the past 3 months where the runner ran in under 25 minutes. Far too many people clogging up the even and thus many of us have started to avoid the event. It is no longer a race…but a shed the poundage event.

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re re Duluth Rick

March 21st, 2011
1:06 pm

To re Duluth Rick. I am black. I just get tired of all these self-righteous runners yelling at walkers to stay to the right out of their way, when their own compadres run on the right side weaving between walkers.

Hope I nail you good!

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BlahBlahBlah

March 21st, 2011
3:00 pm

@ Athlete not chair warmer: This will be my 9th Peachtree. I’ve never walked any of them, but I’ve also never finished in under 50 minutes. Your attitude stinks. Frankly, I hope more people like you avoid it. Judging by the fact that they just expanded to 60,000, you won’t be missed.

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Mike Brown

March 22nd, 2011
7:08 am

Here’s the fix. People need to hear loud and clear that if you walk or stop to walk-get to the right side of the road. However, people have yet to figure this out on I-75 in Atlanta who have driven it all their life so I wouldn’t expect them to figure it out at a race if they don’t do it often. If you run and you see 4 people lined up to the left holding hands and singing-yell at them and tell them to get to the right.

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HeatherP

March 22nd, 2011
7:13 am

While this has been a complaint of mine in the past, last year I started in the D wave & don’t recall having a problem with walkers. With a smaller number of people in each wave, I was actually able to maneuver through slower runners very easily. In addition, I improved my time by nearly 4 minutes from the previous year & should be in the C wave this year. So, yes, it was a vast improvement!

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Marius Maximus

March 22nd, 2011
7:21 am

I started at the back of Wave A last year. There were more runners who qualified for Wave A than could fit in the corral, and when the race started, some of us had to wait on the sidewalk until enough runners had moved away to make some for us to enter the corral. I then walked up to the start and waited a full minute to give the other runners a bit of time to separate before crossing the start line and beginning to run. As it turned out, that had been a good idea, but I might have waited longer. As I dodged and weaved and accelerated through the foot traffic, I was appalled at the number of people who were walking. WALKING. In Wave A. Perhaps twenty percent of the people in that wave walked at least part of the way – and perhaps another 25% ran significantly slower than their start wave placement might have suggested. This last factoid made me wonder whether the requirements were too lax. I think one can turn in a time from a race in the past two years – if so, that might be too long. Perhaps the large number of too-slow runners were people who had been at a certain level of fitness two years prior to this Peachtree, but had been not been separated from their couch in the last year? This year I have qualified for the sub-seeded group which is much smaller and hopefully faster. If not, that would just provide additional incentive to qualify top-seeded in 2012. :)

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Diana

March 22nd, 2011
7:21 am

I actually have the start wave times from last year saved into a PDF that I can share if anyone’s interested. Last year they showed qualifying times for every start wave on the original chart, but it was modified later once (I assume) they saw that tons of people didn’t have qualifying times. I actually have both versions of last year’s chart- the pre registration and final start wave assignments. I had the same problem, I was going for Group A based on last year’s times, but I ended up in Group B from this year’s changes.

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Murph

March 22nd, 2011
7:23 am

I had a 2009 P’tree time of 58 and was put in corral E for 2010. I did encounter a LOT of walkers which I was surprised to find. I was running the race to earn a PR, not for recreation so it was frustrating. Most frustrating was the really large group of ‘runners’ who thought it was funny to stop at the traffic lights when they were red and not move until they were green. There must have been 15-20 people in this group and I don’t understand how they could have been seeded so high, and if they did indeed earn their spots individually I would think that they would have more courtesy than to pull that stunt and block the way for the runners behind them. It was not funny. My 2010 time was 48 mins so I am hoping to get into a higher corral this year and not have to deal with so many walkers and this particular group of yahoos.

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onefinshy

March 22nd, 2011
7:26 am

it’s not the walkers, it’s the n00bs who start the race about mile 2 or 3. cheaters and punks!

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John

March 22nd, 2011
7:39 am

I have been in Time group 1a or wave A in the last 6 years and yes I encountered walkers. I have found that many of them are jumpers that decided to start a couple of blocks down the road instead of with their wave. For whatever reason, the figure that if they start earlier they will finish earlier. They would finish even quicker if they ran the course. But they want the shirt without the work that it entails.
I actually ran a sub 50 minute race last year and when I crossed the finish, the guy next to me had a wave G bib on. And he was not even sweating – Obviously a jumper.

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Diana

March 22nd, 2011
7:48 am

I think for a lot of people, Peachtree is seen as more of an event than a race. I ran in Group E last year. I didn’t have a ton of trouble with walkers and was able to run the whole race without being forced to walk at all. I know there are people who will run a fast qualifier just to get up in the front, but they really just want to enjoy the Peachtree and not worry about rushing thru it and really racing.

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Steve

March 22nd, 2011
8:07 am

My first Peachtree was 2009, and I ended up in Group 8 (the second to last group that year). I tried to run, but encountered countless walkers along the course including one woman who stopped to tie her shoe in front of me! (we collided). So the comment by Mike Brown on educating folks not to stop is well taken.

That said, I was warned by an accomplished runner I know from Atlanta that the Peachtree is more “event” than race (he avoids the Peachtree entirely). So I wasn’t that surprised.

Last year I qualified for the A wave, and what a difference it made. Unlike Marius Maximus above, I placed myself mid-pack in the A group and had little problem crossing the starting line. While the start was as crowded as any major race it was a totally different experience, and I took 7 minutes off my time from 2009.

In neither 2009 or 2010 did I PR, but then again, this isn’t the race for that. But in my experience the start waves have greatly helped those that want to run the race.

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staytotheright

March 22nd, 2011
8:23 am

PLEASE!!! If,and at this point it is a big IF,That can happen,It will be a great day for all of us! Thank you very much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Annette

March 22nd, 2011
8:27 am

I ran in Wave C last year with a qualifying time of 57:xx. It was fabulous. I actually finished the 2010 race earlier than I started the 2009 race (Group 9). For the most part, everyone around me was running. I did take a few walk breaks (on the right side of the road; don’t hate me!). There was very little dodging.

Honestly I don’t get too up in arms about having to dodge other runners and walkers. What do you think you’re going to get in a race with 55K+ participants? My biggest motivation to get into an early start wave is to beat the heat, and running at 7:45 am is a million times better than running at 9 am.

It looks like my time will qualify me for Wave E this year, which I’m sure will still be fine. I think the ATC is doing a great job.

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Chris

March 22nd, 2011
8:55 am

Runners worrying about walkers are assuming they even make it past the lottery at all.

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Andrea

March 22nd, 2011
9:06 am

While I didn’t encounter a ton of walkers posing a problem, there were MAJOR traffic jams for these reasons:
1) Water stations, people would take a cup and stop to drink it AT the table.
2) Moes throwing T- Shirts – There was a huge group of people standing with arms up that took up half the road
3) Water Sprinklers – the entire pack would shift to avoid running through the fire hoses causing major backups.

I was dissapointed in this race to find the lack of care for people to actually complete the whole race course. Have a cross point for every mile that has to register to get a T-Shirt if that’s the problem.

But the most dissapointing was improving my time all year only to find I’m now two waves back from last year. :(

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Annette

March 22nd, 2011
9:32 am

Andrea–simple fix. Run another USATF-certified race (any distance between 5K and half marathon is accepted) to get a better qualifying time for next year. I guarantee you that if you run a smaller race in cooler weather, you will finish faster than you do in the Peachtree.

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PJ

March 22nd, 2011
10:20 am

I run about an hour pace (10 min. mile) in all 10K’s including the Peachtree. My first 2 years, though I am not the fastest, I was surprised at how much weaving I had to do but it wasn’t always walkers. Sometimes the runners will just stop to tie their shoe, spit, grab food from the sidelines or weave right in front of you to pass without looking. I think everyone in every race could learn some etiquette lessons. I run 99% of the race but I do take occasional walk breaks but before I cross to walk or stop, I always glance over my shoulder and make sure I am not cutting anyone off or walking right in front of someone. I also look before I spit too ha! I do this in every race I do, even a 5K. There will always be “cheaters” and we can’t do anything about unfortunately but if everyone would just be a little more thoughtful and just have fun and enjoy the race things would be better. I too, with this said, did not have near as much trouble with the new start waves as the 2 years previously. Oh one more note, if you are running/walking in a big group, get to the right side also, don’t take up the whole lane trying to stay side-by-side. See everyone in July! :-)

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Nancy

March 22nd, 2011
10:23 am

Having to weave in and around walkers who insist on walking 4-5 abreast in the middle of the road can be quite frustrating, and folks who intend to walk or walk/run really need stay to the right out of respect to faster runners, and (more importantly) for safety reasons.

But the slower runners and walkers are not the only rude ones; one occasion I was stuck behind a group of slow runners running on the left, and while waiting for a good, safe opportunity to get around them, have been yelled and AND ACTUALLY SHOVED by a runner who was in turn trying to get around us. That is not at all in the spirit of what the PRR is all about.

As an Atlanta resident who has run the PRR many times over the past 25+ years, I find it crazy that anyone would seriously consider trying for a PR in this event-if that is your only goal, and you are not fast enough to qualify for one of the faster waves, you should REALLY consider skipping the PRR and find a smaller 10K. It’s more of a party than a race; going into with this expectation, as opposed to the expectation to run your fastest 10K, will greatly add to your overall experience.

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nora

March 22nd, 2011
11:10 am

I have just about given up on the Peachtree because of the cheaters. Those walkers you encounter in the faster time groups are obviously some of those folks who think the rules don’t apply to them and jump in ahead of their group. I remember a couple of years ago seeing a reporter talking to people “running” (okay, walking) up Cardiac Hill wearing TG 9 bibs while the time clock on the screen indicated that their TG hadn’t even left the corral yet. CHEATERS! Although I’m not a fast runner (60-65 min 10K) I do run a qualifying race so I can earn the time group appropriate for my speed and I DON’T appreciate the CHEATERS jumping in wherever they please. I think they are sorry losers who don’t make the effort of qualifying for their spot and then just flaunt the rules and jump ahead of everyone else who is running where they are supposed to be. Just sayin….

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cat friend

March 22nd, 2011
11:30 am

what’s the protocol for an entrant who turned in a proper time (1:15) but due to injury may need to walk instead? IF I get in, should I purposely start in the last wave?

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runwalker

March 22nd, 2011
12:53 pm

I suspect they could eliminate a large number of the problems with people starting ahead of their scheduled time group if they either eliminate the “coveted” t-shirt altogether, or simply give them out at the expo. I bet if they did either of these there would be at least 5,000 fewer official finishers. Personally, I find the PRR shirts to be some of my least favorite of any of the races I do (12+ per year) so I know I wouldn’t miss it.

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Diana

March 22nd, 2011
12:56 pm

@cat friend:I think that since you earned that time you earned the right to start in the earlier group. If you’re going to walk, just stay over to the side No reason to make yourself wait so late and in the crazy summer heat when you earned the right to start sooner.

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nora

March 22nd, 2011
4:39 pm

@runwalker: I concur. My “coveted” (not so much) Peachtree shirts are stuffed in the bottom of a drawer only to be worn as nighties once in a while. Otherwise I have no use for them. There are lots of race tees that I wear for working out, but those aren’t any good for that being 100% cotton. And I don’t feel any pride wearing it because anyone who paid an entry fee basically gets the shirt – all they’ve got to do is show up at the finish line. The shirt doesn’t necessarily indicate that a person RAN the Peachtree, but just that they signed up and “participated”. Big deal.

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Susan

March 22nd, 2011
6:19 pm

I will be a walker; a first time walker. I have worked very hard to be able to walk this race. I’ve never been a runner; but have worked extremely hard walking Kennesaw Mountain 4 days per week. I’m a former smoker. I found my healthy side late in life (age 53). This is now on my bucket list of things to do…so yes I paid the Track Club to be sure I was able to register; I don’t apologize for any of this. I’m sure everyone has his/her own personal reason for completing the Peachtree. When I leave this world, I would like for my children and grandchildren to look back at what seemed to be an unattainable goal for me and remember that I made it. I will be in back of the pack; so I am sure I will not impede a runner.

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Diana

March 22nd, 2011
9:38 pm

@susan: Congrats, it’s such a great accomplishment to be able to complete a 10k! I hope you have a great Peachtree!!

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Gen Neyland

March 23rd, 2011
6:38 am

With times being adjusted for runners with more serious intent on running the PRR, I give those responsible for tweaking the Start Waves credit. It shows that they are putting the word ‘Race’ back in the PRR. No matter where you qualify, it’s a personal accomplishment to be placed. For those that fail to adhere to their Start Wave time and move forward to run with family or friends instead of having them move back to join you like you’re suppose to do, may you get knocked to the ground and trampled (I’m kidding. May you just get bumped around really hard a time or two)…

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BlahBlahBlah

March 23rd, 2011
10:29 am

1. I was in Group B last year, and there were few walkers and most of them were on the right. If you run right down the middle of the road you’re mostly fine.

2. If you run the Peachtree to try to get a 10K PR, you are a fool. Run the Sizzler in September, or any number of fast, flat courses during the year if you want a PR.

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DW

March 23rd, 2011
10:31 am

I was in Group C last year with a time of 55 min. and was hopeful that being towards the front would eliminate a lot of the dodging and weaving, but I have to say that I thought the waves made things worse, at least for the first half of the race. Not because there were more walkers, but because you are running with a large group of people who have a very similar pace. I felt like I was running with my start pack for nearly two miles or more before things started really spreading out. As annoying as the walkers/slow joggers are, I was probably even more annoyed by being stuck in a pack for 2 plus miles.

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BlahBlahBlah

March 23rd, 2011
10:33 am

@ Susan, you have nothing to apologize about. Congratulations to you! (just stay to the right please!)

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ARGHH

March 23rd, 2011
6:49 pm

What bothers me about the lottery is the number of people who have NO INTENTIONS on running but just looking for a way to make a buck. Watch for all the numbers on ebay and craig’s list. Some even qualify for a time group, know they won’t run, and advertise “finish early”. That’s where some of the walkers come in.

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nora

March 24th, 2011
7:45 am

Now that they have chip timing, I would never transfer my number (not that I would have anyway). I don’t want an official time recorded that I didn’t run! And if I were the runner buying the number, I would know that the time I ran would come up under someone else’s name. What is the point of that? I guess I just don’t get it….

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cat friend

March 25th, 2011
9:36 am

@Susan – congrats! I’ve seen the health benefits, too, even at my dismal pace. I halved my BP medication. I’ve also watched a neighborhood stroke victim recover from a very odd walking gait to proudly wearing her Peachtree shirt as she scoots up and down some very steep nearby hills.
@nora – those tee shirts can be turned into a great looking memory quilt, too….

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slipperyslope

March 25th, 2011
12:17 pm

This will be my first PRR, too (I hope). I don’t have a qualifying time, so I’ll be in one of the last waves. This has always been something I wanted to do, but didn’t run any qualifying races first. My goal is to run as much as I can, but will walk when needed. I’ll try to stay to the right, and apologize in advance if I mess this up for anyone! I’m a newer runner-started last year to lose baby weight. I’m addicted, so am hopeful that I get in the lottery.

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treadster

March 27th, 2011
7:58 pm

I know that for many the PRR is an event but for me it’s a race. It’s a big race. I also know that I’ll never win. Part of the appeal is that I get to compete with (not against) some of the best runners in the world. I image it’s like playing a round of golf with Tiger Woods or tennis with one (or both) of the Williams sisters. In 2010 I started in the “A” group. I should be sub-seeded this year. Walkers were not much of a problem for me but I don’t expect to PR. I hope everybody has a good race/walk.

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Kathy

March 28th, 2011
6:04 am

Okay…..emails are going out confirming registration. I DID NOT GET IN! I have run 6 times prior, you think that would count for something AND I submitted a time. My friend who has never run got in!!!! This lottery crap SUCKS!!!

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Gen Neyland

March 28th, 2011
7:52 am

Kathy : I’ve run 7 PRR’s and decided not to enter this years event. I love the atmosphere and all but opted to try a real race or two somewhere along the way instead of the gala event. Don’t be upset. For most of us/them, it’s only about a T-shirt anyway. Better luck next year. Go get a great 10K time this year and boost your odds for a front start wave in 2012…

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Gen Neyland

March 28th, 2011
7:56 am

…and if joining the ATC becomes partial-specific criteria to get into the wallowing stampede of slow movers and corral jumpers, I’ve run my last one. I do buy an occassional ajc. Could that help me get in..?

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John

March 28th, 2011
8:16 am

I didn’t get in. I was part of a group that applied. We all submitted times. I would enjoy hearing how many people applied for a spot.

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Marie

March 28th, 2011
11:51 am

Really are people complaining about run/walkers? This is the largest 10K in the USA. You have to assume there will be walkers. And as much as you don’t like it, many of them have never been in a “race” before, so they do not know the proper etiquette. The PRR itself even discourages people from attempting to PR on this race. With this amount of participants, it is virtually impossible. Go, run and have a good time. And please forgive those who to don’t know what how to act. This is their one day to be active. You have the entire year and countless other races to be competitive and PR. This is probably the one time a year these people go out and do something active.

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Kathy

March 28th, 2011
11:56 am

Gen Neyland…..I think what blows the most is that my friend, whom I planned to run with this year, got in and she is a first timer, but I did not get in (would have been #7 for me).

John….sorry for your group. My friend and I did not apply as a group because we thought we’d have a better chance at singles.

I am just disappointed. I never had a problem with the paper app or the online process.

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RunningMan

March 28th, 2011
12:44 pm

I am a first timer and I got in, finally. I’ll be in corral B. I have applied before but was never selected (via mail-in registration, as I couldn’t be on the internet at an exact time on an exact day to register online). I don’t expect a PR, but want to do as best as I can. Dealing with traffic/left-side walkers may get me quite aggrivated, as I have never run a race this size. Other runners I know avoid this race because of it’s size, but I feel like have have to do it at least once.

Hearing about the cheaters/jumpers, I think having timing mats at every mile would work. The volunteers handing out the t-shirts could enter your bib # into the computer system and only give out shirts if times were available at every check point.

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Justin

March 28th, 2011
3:31 pm

I did not get in either…disappointed. Would like to know total number of applicants to see who else feels my sorrow.

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Rod

March 29th, 2011
6:45 am

Something’s wrong here. My wife got the confirmation email (as did I) but when you use the search feature ajc has, it doesn’t list her (it does list me).

So we’re assuming she’s in, but don’t know for sure!

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Stan Hess

March 29th, 2011
7:15 am

Were a long way from the 110 that started the first race…we just showed up that morning paid and ran!! It has become quite a production…Good luck to those that have made it in, and condolences to those that did not. I hope this years race is the best ever!!

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Gen Neyland

March 29th, 2011
8:14 am

I thought I heard on WSB yesterday that the total number of entrants via the lottery was over 60,000 but just slightly. Taking out the number of folks that joined the ATC for guaranteed entry and other guaranteed entrants, I wonder what the actual percentage is for those that played the race lottery and will fill the balance of participants…

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Gen Neyland

March 29th, 2011
8:34 am

As a runner who has suffered the effects of over-use injuries, I’ve learned the hard way not to try and make up the slower winter months of maintenance running with more intense training too early in the season. Training is a personal issue where one size does not fit all. Most of us have limitations. Finding those limits need not be painful. Listen to your body. And when your mind tells you to stop after 6 miles of a 10 mile scheduled run, if in pain, do so. If your mind would rather be home in the Lazy-Boy, tell the brain to shut up and keep plugging. Good luck to all…

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oldschooldog

March 29th, 2011
9:44 am

If you’re able to handle 60,000, seems easy enough to just accept the other 2,000, and turn no one away? Call a news conference, announce you’ve worked with sponsors, evaluated logistics, etc., etc., and proud to not turn away anyone who wants to run this year. Seems like a golden opportunity to me.

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cat friend

March 29th, 2011
9:52 am

I think I’m in – at least the search says “registrant confirmed”. I may have accidentally deleted the confirming email, thinking it was spam because I didn’t expect MarathonGuide as the sender. Here goes! My submitted time 1:15 should have me in wave L?

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Bobby

March 29th, 2011
2:11 pm

After having run 7 to 9 PRR’s (I don’t think I’ve got 10) I was one of those lucky ones rejected. So, I’ll find another event for the July 4th weekend. But I’m also done with any ATC events, whether working as a volunteer or running. In the past we knew what we had to do to get in the PRR and felt like it was an Atlanta event. Now it’s luck of the draw or beg for a dispensation. Not my thing.

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TMS

April 1st, 2011
12:59 pm

I’m one of the ones rejected as well. A few others I have talked to who did not get in were ones like me who waited until the last evening to register. I’m wondering when others that were not accepted submitted their registrations. If the ones who were rejected all registered in the last few hours, then there was no way this was a true lottery. In the past couple of years I’ve gotten in because I’ve worked like crazy to sign up as soon as the online registration opened. This year I assumed that wasn’t necessary. I agree with oldschooldog, why not just let the other 2,000 have entries? Surely there is some percentage of confirmed registrants who do not show up on raceday anyway.

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Justin

April 2nd, 2011
3:48 pm

TMS, I did not get in. I registered March 19th.

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Lori

April 4th, 2011
12:20 pm

Rod I had the same issue. When I used the search, my husband didn’t come up as one of the registrants. He received the email, and they took the money out of our account. I hope there are no problems when we go to pick up our numbers.

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Richard

April 4th, 2011
11:24 pm

I was selected to run this year but feel that the lottery is unfair to seasoned runners, who train with the race in mind. Why push yourself when you may not run anyway?

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Steve

April 5th, 2011
8:49 am

Interesting way of looking at the race, and I have a similar story. My first Peachtree was 2009, about a year after I had started running (well into my 40’s). My initial effort was 58:02, or 10,068th place (I’ll call it an even 10,000th). Last year with some more training I did 51:44, or 4857th place.

So, by your reasoning, if I can jump another 5211 places, I’ll be the winner.

I think I set a more reasonable goal of what we’ll call “40 something”, as in the first digit of my time starting with “4″. And maybe a cigar.

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Mike

April 5th, 2011
11:33 am

My new wife, my teenage son, and I are running our first Peachtree. Im new to running and im shooting for 60 minutes.

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Gen Neyland

April 6th, 2011
7:14 am

All the great runners of our day have sponsered products at some point in their running careers, so all in all, it’s okay for John to have been the spokesman for Hav-a-Tampa at a point in time. Put’s a whole ‘nuther spin on ‘Smokin’ the Roads’. Me, I’m still shooting for Bud Light sponserships…

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Gen Neyland

April 7th, 2011
7:04 am

I live in rural NE GA near Amicalola State Park. It’s great that city dwellers can get out pre-dawn for their runs. I can’t get started until the sun rises for fear of stepping on a Rattler or Copperhead taking in the warmth off the asphalt over night, and even at that I’ve had to side-step a Copperhead or two…As for hills, they’re right out the front door…

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Matt

April 7th, 2011
10:12 am

Here you go. The hills around Druid Hills will make that 10th St. climb look like a piece of cake. I mainly run in Midtown/Downtown now because it’s closer to work though.

Briarcliff between Lavista and N. Druid Hills: http://traininglog.runnersworld.com/logs/70542920a9e14ba5a1230e812df1723d/courses/e0033eb6b52f47bcb2d185baa5efa663

Mason Mill Road: http://traininglog.runnersworld.com/logs/70542920a9e14ba5a1230e812df1723d/courses/2c58c3eb6f4842669cddd97ef393b31d

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stevo

April 7th, 2011
7:11 pm

It may be a little bit of a drive, but you should run Sawnee Mountain Preserve in Cumming. You can do the outside loop which clocks in at 2.9 miles, or there are other trails to keep a little bit of variety in your runs. Be advised that you will be on unpaved trails. I find that much more enjoyable than pounding pavement. The park is open from dawn until dark. You can also see a bit of history along the trail. The most important being the Indian Seats atop Booger Mountain which was a site where Cherokee Indians surveyed the area for rival tribes or other enemies. You can educate yourself while you exercise. What can be better.

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Gen Neyland

April 7th, 2011
9:02 pm

stevo : SMP is a good, yet challenging, off-road venue. Run those trails every so often and enjoy it. SMP is hazardous in Autumn but when the trails clear off and one can place footing carefully, it’s good…btw, you doing the race there..?

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stevo

April 10th, 2011
8:03 pm

Gen Neyland…hope you see this. I was training for a trip to Montana last year and was at Suwanee Mountain preserve the day of the race. I would love to participate. If you could please post the info, it would be much appreciated. Hope to see you there.

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stevo

April 10th, 2011
8:10 pm

…Sawnee Mountain Preserve…

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Pat21

April 11th, 2011
2:22 pm

There used to be a race the Atlanta Track club put on called “In Training for the Peachtree 5k”. The course was a single loop around Piedmont Park. Start at the Charles Allen entrance and circle around via Piedmont to Monroe to 10th. http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/31505894/?open_ive_done=1

You can make it harder or easier depending on the direction you take the hill near the Atlanta Botanical Gardens.

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David

April 12th, 2011
6:58 am

Vickery Creek in roswell. Great trails (that are mapped in the parking lot) and some brutal crashing and climbing hills. Good training course.

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Dennis

April 13th, 2011
8:41 am

I run a good bit in that same area – the Ansley Park neighborhood is great for running! Nice wide streets, no traffic lights and not heavily traveled when I commonly run there. Here’s a nice 3 mile loop starting and ending at LA Fitness in the area:
http://runkeeper.com/user/123147100/route/448051

There’s about 120 feet of elevation change between the 0.8 mile and 2.2 mile mark. (About the same as the so-called Cardiac Hill on the Peachtree course but you get twice the distance on this training run to tackle it.)

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Patricia E Grant

April 25th, 2011
3:17 pm

I’d walk barefoot on the hot pavement from Macon, Ga to Atlanta for that number. I should arrive around 7am July 4th 2011!

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Patricia E Grant

April 25th, 2011
3:27 pm

I would (and did) open a twitter account with the username “trishaluvsajc” just to see if I can get a number. Did I mention that I lov ajc, twitter, and the peachtree road race?

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Patricia E Grant

April 25th, 2011
3:29 pm

Ummm…submit multiple comments until someone hears me and gives me a number?

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Patricia E Grant

April 25th, 2011
3:31 pm

OOps! Just realized I must have “ajc” in my comment! So here it is….ajc,ajc,ajc…..peachtree here I come!!!

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Kevin

April 25th, 2011
4:30 pm

My nephew Sam ” wong way” Woo would be the recipient of this treasure as he is thinking of running cross country this Fall for Walton high and his only excuse is it’s TOO LATE to get a number. He could run his first Peach tree with my brother Jon and this would absolutely close the deal.

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CindyFoster

April 26th, 2011
7:47 am

I deserve a race number because I didn’t get chosen year before last in the mail in lottery. I did get a number last year and ran the race 13 weeks pregnant. I ran twelve miles the day I went into labor. I deserve a number because I love running and I desperately want to run in the 2011 Peachtree Road Race.

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CindyFoster

April 26th, 2011
7:48 am

Did I mention that I ran 3000 miles last year and did so while pregnant for nine months? That is another good reason. ☺

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Yeah C'Mon

April 26th, 2011
10:47 am

How about instead of doing a twitter contest, you actually give them out to people who’ve run the race before, and had family members work at the AJC for 30+ combined years?

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jessica

April 26th, 2011
12:23 pm

What I need most is accountability. Sure, I can run on my own…once I stop putting it off and get out there. But, chances are I won’t push myself as hard as if I’m with others. I prefer to run with at least one other person. It keeps me accountable, motivated and maybe even competitive!

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Jen

April 26th, 2011
1:26 pm

My girlfriends and I formed a run group called Pretty Girls Run. There are about 18 of us and our first official run together as a group was the Publix GA Half Marathon. It started as a way to help each other train and stay on track. Now, we’re training for a few 5 and 10K races in the area, and plan to run the Savannah and Miami Half Marathons in November and January. I don’t love to run, but I love the challenge it poses so for me, having a partner or group makes me accountable and pushes me to be a better runner, all around.

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Jeff

April 26th, 2011
1:29 pm

If you run with somebody else, at least one of you is not getting the right workout. Sure, if you’re just trying to burn a few calories, running with others is certainly better than nothing. If you have the right music selectiob, and a nice scenic route, running solo is the way to go. Of course, if the Pretty Girls Run invited me, I’d probably change my opinion.

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AJC Sports

April 26th, 2011
4:59 pm

Thanks for the great comments, but this is a Twitter-only contest and you can’t win unless you respond on Twitter! Make sure to get your answers for today’s question in by 10p.m.

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Gen Neyland

April 27th, 2011
6:30 am

For those that choose group therapy, so be it. There is no right or wrong answer to the question of solo or pack but I choose solo and have done so for 20 years. The following reasons apply : I set my own schedule, run my own pace and workouts (hills, track, long, short), converse with my inner-self. The group runner may translate these points to : Does not play well with others. I just like the solo route except for race days…

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Cassi

April 27th, 2011
8:55 am

I’ve found that by running with a group, I am much more excited about the activity. It’s no longer just a workout, but an event! Of course, like others said, finding the right group is key and running with people of a similar pace will ensure a good workout, but living a healthy lifestyle should be fun and working out shouldn’t be a burden! If you can make your fitness exciting and engaging, you’re more likely to do it. That’s what I’m all about!

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Timmydaddy

April 27th, 2011
10:04 am

When I was a bit younger, quicker and less injury prone, I primarily ran alone. I could tailor my own workout and I had enough of the disease to always push myself pretty hard. Now I try to balance it between some mind-clearing solo trips and more social, group runs. I think once you reach a point where PR’s are a thing of the past, the most important thing is to stay motivated to keep lacing them up.

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Stanky B

April 27th, 2011
1:44 pm

I ran this race for 10 years in a row. I stopped a few years back when it basically became one great big fun run. I saw thousands upon thousands of walkers, and just got disgusted. I also got sick of ruining my long July 4th holiday (take it easy the night before, get up at the crack of dawn the day of, finally get home completely wiped out).

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call me dude

April 27th, 2011
1:44 pm

I wonder how many heart attacks will happen, it is pretty strenuous on the ticker

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So what?

April 27th, 2011
2:31 pm

It’s 50,000 people showing up for this. Why is that so special?

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Diet Coke Girl

April 27th, 2011
7:48 pm

I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN!!! I was just sitting here thinking why today was so hard and yesterday was easier… When I think about having to run, thats when my runs go wrong… Seems as though when the run is horrid, the minutes feel like hours… But yes it is all very mental..

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PJ

April 27th, 2011
8:52 pm

It is just that way, sometimes it is all I can do to run 3 miles then I can go and run 7 like it was nothing. A lot of things take into place, what you ate the day before, what time you run, what’s on your mind. I think the biggest thing is, at least even on a bad day run you have exercised and gave it a shot. You just have to know you are going to have days like that and don’t beat yourself up. I ran my first Marathon in January and my IT band screamed at me the entire 26.2 miles but I just took it one mile at a time, tried to get involved in everything around me and I finished. Not quite as fast I would have liked but I did finish. It’s not about how far or how fast it is about getting out there and just doing it.

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sladersaan

April 28th, 2011
7:10 am

just listen to your body in order to avoid injury. One of the most difficult things for beginners is the difference between soreness, pain and injury. Pushing through soreness is rewarding, but be careful not to injure yourself.

I am 42 and have been running for years. I currently put in about 45-50 miles per week. Forget about the bad days immediately…tomorrow is just a short time away. Sometimes, once you get half-way through a bad run..it turns into a decent one.

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Gen Neyland

April 28th, 2011
7:36 am

Eyestone calls the long run the ‘Meat and potatoes’ of a training plan. In essence, don’t skip it. Long can be defined as 22 miles or 6 miles, depending on one’s goal and if you’re a runner, no more explanation is needed. Moving ahead to the physical-mental aspects, who among us hasn’t fought off those demons at some point..? Having to face and accept our personal limitations isn’t a weakness, it’s a reality else pain and suffering will follow. Those of us that learned the hard way (some more than once, me included) eventually learn to approach training with caution and stay within ourselves, venturing beyond the edge with careful steps so as not to repeat past mistakes that sat us down and kept us from the starting line. Mentally, every runner must get their mind right when affected by this one. Don’t let the mental part whip you, run through it as best as you can knowing a better day is just around the corner…

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fun runner

April 28th, 2011
1:34 pm

I think you are right about the mental part. At various times I have kept a running journal, keeping track a year at a time of things like what I ate, time of day, temperature etc. The only thing I could never account for was the mental aspect of the run. Some days are just grueling, other days exhilarating. But I haven’t a clue as to why. I have speculated that there are also deeper bio-rhythms at work but who knows. It makes me feel better to know that the elite athletes simply say some days it just isn’t your day.

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Susie

April 28th, 2011
4:23 pm

I agree completely with treadmill running being boring but during allergy season I simply can’t run outside – treadmills are sometimes just a necessary evil

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Jen

April 28th, 2011
4:58 pm

Oh the treadmill! Not only boring but I don’t feel that I get the same workout on the treadmill versus the outdoors. I train on a treadmill for a few consecutive runs and then go out for a run and it’s a different and more hard run than indoors.

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Bernice Scott

April 28th, 2011
7:39 pm

April 25, 2011
If I had an AJC PRR number, I would share this historial experience in the middle of Preachtree with my number flashing on my chest.

April 26, 2011
I deserve an AJC PRR number because all the people in group has their number except ME. I deserve one too!!! Please give me a number!!!!

April 27, 2011
The best thing about the AJC PRR is meeting many people of different cultures, that meet together as one family on July 4th. They celebrate walking, runnung (Jogging),
and talking during the race. I need a number to be part of this great race.

April 28, 2011
The best AJC PRR memory was after the death of my husband. My friends invited me to join them for the Preachtree Road Race. It was the most exciting event that I ever participate in. It was fun and up lifting and I needed that. The experince was fantastic! I have not missed a PRR since. So you see, I would love to have that WONDERFUL number…….
Thanks

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Gen Neyland

April 29th, 2011
7:49 pm

In 20 years of running, I’ve hit the treadmill less than 10 times. Have run in Arizona summers and Minnesota winters. Love the elements, except lightning…

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CrossCountryCoach

April 30th, 2011
9:50 am

Sounds like you need a training program. A program helps you stay focused and it gives you goals. Most recommend starting 24 weeks ahead of your main event. Treadmills are great if used properly. They help get you into a proper running cadence (180 steps per minute, 2/2 breathing pattern, etc.) if used properly. They also allow you to run at the same environmental conditions daily which is crucial for interval training. Casual runners who are only running for the social aspect (”hey, I ran the PRR”) may not be dedicated enough to running to garner the many advantages treadmills offer. Buy yourself a good running book and you’ll quickly see why they have there place in a training regime.

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Gen Neyland

April 30th, 2011
3:02 pm

I’ll not be running the PRR this year due to family considerations but I will chime in from time to time. Motivation : Isn’t the PRR enough motivation to make a plan and follow through..? Remember, the Vasity awaits all finishers..! The serious/experienced runner needs no prodding getting to the starting line. It’s simply a natural occurence for them to do so. The beginner probably will push themselves so as not to appear to the masses to be a beginner. It’s the kick-back, beer swilling, been running for years but ‘I’ll do it tomorrow’ people that need to find another gear (I’m somewhere in between the beer-swiller and the serious guy). However one motivates, Good Luck…

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OldTimer

April 30th, 2011
10:01 pm

I’ve worn out a treadmill or two. That’s why I stopped using them.

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Stace

May 1st, 2011
2:46 pm

I am a “heavy footed” runner when I run outdoors….but when I do run on the treadmill I am able to glide and I find I run longer. But when I run outside again it is a much more difficult run. So the best I can do is “take it in stride” lol.

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Kramer

May 2nd, 2011
9:09 am

I have lost 30 pounds since I started using my treadmill at home in late December. I have my tv on or have my ipod going and love every minute I am going. It may not be everyone’s cup of tea but, this formerly fat guy loves his machine and looks forward to being on it tonight.

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PJ

May 3rd, 2011
3:08 pm

I have only been running 3 1/2 years and I don’t really “love it” but it challenges me. I ran two 1/2 marathons and 1 full last year and I do proudly boast my 13.1 and 26.2 magnets on my car. I am an average runner, 40 – 50% in most major runs, with a few awards for my age group. I like to talk about running but only when asked. Because of my running, I have encouraged several of my friends to workout, walk, run and become healthy. I don’t feel like I brag, maybe to some it seems that way, but if I can “brag” and get people to get off the couch then so be it. I do it for health, fun and the social aspect of it and I hope that I also encourage others to do the same. :-)

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DHD

May 3rd, 2011
3:29 pm

The reason it is a big deal for me is that it keeps my weight off. 2 years ago, I weighed over 300 pounds. I made it down to 193 when I ran the Peachtree for the first time last year. I ran my first Half at Disney in January and yes….I have one of those 13.1 stickers. I am proud that I made that accomplishment when I couldn’t have run to the mailbox and back 2 years ago. I am in my middle 50s and have a goal of running in an event in each state, which is probably not realistic but will be fun giving it a shot.

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Thomas H. Pate

May 3rd, 2011
4:00 pm

You should not identify those with the 26.2 sticker with those who intimidate or deter others from taking up the sport. I think you have the wrong idea there. My wife is an organizer and local cheerleader for running who has inspired many to take up the sport, and she sports that sticker, as I myself do.

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PittJacket

May 3rd, 2011
10:09 pm

I ran my sixth half marathon last year, my first in 20 years. I’m running two this year. No stickers, but I wear the shirts proudly. I’ve found the running snobs to generally consist of younger employees at running shoe stores or recently graduated college runners. Everyone else is helpful and friendly.

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Yarden

May 4th, 2011
5:21 am

A marathon is the greatest athletic accomplishment that most normal people can do. And I believe that anyone who sets their mind to it, can do it. Not without pain, not without sacrifice. Not without dedication. Completing it in any time means that you set your sights on a demanding physical goal and accomplished it. So go ahead, be proud and put that sticker on your car to tell others not just that you did it, but that they can too.

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ExRunner

May 4th, 2011
12:30 pm

I’m a 51 year old ex-runner. I started running at age 14. By 20 I had run 9 marathons including one that I won. I ran for the next 36 years (with varying competitive levels) and I can honestly say only about three of those years were injury-free. After numerable bouts of plantar fascitis, calf strains, groin strains, flattened feet (which fifteen years of orthotics didn’t help), stress fractures, atrial fibrillation, and finally a herniated disc which required surgery..I gave it up. I’m not trying to bash marathon running..running marathons is more popular than ever now..but (at least in my case) running for the long term is detrimental to your health if you aren’t careful. I don’t know if running causes joint and bone problems but I can tell you what running does to your body over decades…unless you have perfectly symetrical anatomy..continued running will produce muscle imbalances in your body..especially in your hips and butt…which can be the source of just about every running injury and also lower back problems. When I started running no one knew anything about core training but it is the most important thing you can do besides running to have a long running career. Be proud of your running but also be smart.

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lame

May 4th, 2011
1:07 pm

The people who put those stickers on their vehicles are the same ones who avoid telling you their time and finish standing.

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Pat21

May 4th, 2011
1:21 pm

@ lame – I agree. Most of the people who put the stickers on their cars are the ones who walked a marathon in 7+ hours just to cross it off their bucket list.

@ Yvonne – I’m not sure who these “running snobs” are you speak of. Most people who are fast runners/long distance runners had to work hard to get there and have every right to speak of their accomplishments proudly.

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more car sticker observations

May 4th, 2011
1:56 pm

While we’re on the car sticker subject, what about those people with the white oval stickers containing abbreviations for certain states, landmarks, yuppie beaches, etc? What’s with those conformist tools?

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Yvonne

May 4th, 2011
3:50 pm

@Thomas, @Pat21: I definitely agree — running a marathon is a huge accomplishment! I’m just talking about the small minority of people who seem to look down their nose at runners who aren’t as hardcore as they are. I’ve definitely encountered a handful of people like that over the years, but like I said, they’re a small minority.

I absolutely don’t think there’s anything wrong with having a sticker on your car as long as you’re supportive of other runners, which it sounds like everyone here is!

@more car: Now *those* are stickers I never understood.

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Gen Neyland

May 4th, 2011
6:44 pm

After 20 years of taking this sport seriously, I’ve found that sharing experiences and picking the brains of other runners as a learning tool can be valuable. It’s the ones that wear it on their sleeve (not their cars) who offer pompous unsolicited advice that wear thin. Thankfully, those folks are few and far between. Sharing experiences can have positive effects…Sharing is the key word…

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Mel

May 5th, 2011
7:36 am

I don’t see anything wrong with the stickers. If I get to read about how freaking special your children are for making the honor roll, why not read about my running? Completeing a marathon is a pretty awesome accomplishment. Nothing wrong at all in a little pride.

Also, in regards to prolonged running can be dangerous to your health: Pretty much every activity these days has people saying that it is “damaging to your health”….I think running has far more positives than negatives. Just a thought.

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Pat21

May 5th, 2011
9:07 am

Always pack your running shoes, no matter where you go! And if there aren’t any safe places to run outside, make sure your hotel has a gym/treadmill.

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Stag

May 5th, 2011
6:17 pm

Did you mention the name of the website? I use cadence app for iphone and cadence.fm . They stream music at the BPM you select. Its like a Pandora for runners. http://www.cadenceapp.com

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gus

May 6th, 2011
9:22 pm

I don’t know of any running snobs and I have been running for over 30 years. Its like with wealth, if you are nouveau riche, you are going to flaunt it. But if you have had it, its not a big deal. I think that all serious runners who have been at it for a while realize that there are always folks faster than you, and thus, are quite humble. Those who have the Boston Marathon finisher jackets or the 26.2, 70.3, or 140.6 magnets aren’t bragging. They are mementos of their dedication to training and sacrifice.

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Jacob

May 6th, 2011
9:40 pm

I run listening to podcasts. Unlike music, you can still hear traffic noise over them for safety reasons and they still help keep you from getting bored. I keep a stockpile of WTF with Marc Macon, Freakonomics, Radiolab, Hardcore History, and The Moth. Also, I loop the cord of my ear buds behind and over the top of my ears so if they loosen, they don’t fall down.

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Jean

May 7th, 2011
8:28 pm

Wow! I’m just the opposite – - I can’t imagine running without my iPod. . I think I started my running hobby at just the right time, right when iPod Nano’s became popular!

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stace

May 7th, 2011
10:56 pm

You need to try the AirDrives FIT earphones.All you do is simply loop the wire over your ear, cinch it down and go. The speaker does not go into the ear but beside it. This optimizes the ear’s natural ability to interpret sound, so the open-ear design allows you to hear ambient sounds and conversations while still enjoying recorded audio. They are great. We sell then at, I mean you can get them at REI…$40

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Gen Neyland

May 8th, 2011
6:33 am

No wired sounds for me, would rather listen to nature. I relate wired sound on the run on equal footing as one that’s wired for sound in Church. Albeit, this is one of those ‘To each their own’ things on training runs. I admit to being stumped why people are wired for sound at races. Trying to recall a photo of an elite racing with sound but I can’t. ..

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Slinkgirl

May 8th, 2011
3:26 pm

Invest in good headphones that wrap around the base of your head and come over your ears. They aren’t as convient for wrapping up when you’re not running, but they won’t fall out and you can prop them so you don’t have the ear bud all the way in…no missing car sounds that way.

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Bobby

May 9th, 2011
12:11 pm

I just don’t like anything in my ears while running and I’m nominally against headphones. However, as long as the runner pays attention to their surroundings and can hear runners to their side and back it’s find with me.

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commoncents

May 9th, 2011
12:18 pm

I run with Skull Candy FMJ earbuds. They produce very good notes (the larger speakers produce more low notes, so no excessive high pitched sounds to give you a headache). The ear inserts are interchangeable based on size and on material used (included) so that you can decide how much external sound you want to hear. I’ve had mine for over a year and they have never fallen out. Never!

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TallaDawg

May 9th, 2011
12:46 pm

music players and headphones are dangerous for training runs. (You know, you cannot hear cars, bicycles, faster runners or attakers until its too late.) Also, people just look psychologically weak if they HAVE to have them for a race. (See also, Gen Neyland’s comment.)

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poof!!!

May 9th, 2011
1:05 pm

I never wanted to be encumbered by having to have some listening device to keep up with or having to remember to buy batteries to keep it going.

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Mid GA Master

May 9th, 2011
1:05 pm

I created a playlist of tunes that work for me from iTunes. The list is about 2 hours which covers any long run I’ll ever do. I would suggest protective gear for your iPod from sweat, rain, etc. I use a SPI pouch with a small ziplock bag wrapped around the iPod. Also, plan on “locking” the iPod if you do this. I have found where I actually change the song playing if I do not lock the device.

The reason why you do not see elites using iPods is two fold. The first is that Championship races can limit those devices for those who are running for a title. The second is that the devices at some point actually hinder performaces. As a former sub-15:30 5k’er, I have agree with the studies that above 94% effort, you need to be focused solely on the race and anything else is a distraction.

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Brian

May 9th, 2011
1:14 pm

As both runner and running coach, I’m not a fan of running with earbuds — it isolates you from the sounds of traffic and the noise of your own footfalls (a valuable source of feedback for serious runners and runners intent on improving.) In a sport too often devoid of social contact, it further separates you from interaction with others: the unspoken message of wearing earbuds is “leave me alone!” If you insist on wearing them during a race, the most valuable playlist I might suggest is a recording of a metronome at about 180 BPM and set your pace accordingly!

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Not part of the herd

May 9th, 2011
1:14 pm

Why the iPod? There are other, better and less expensive MP3 players.

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Lorain

May 9th, 2011
1:17 pm

If you drive, bike or run with headphones in both ears and block out everything around you, I have ZERO sympathy for you when you get T-boned by a bus.

You people know who you are.

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Jeff

May 9th, 2011
1:39 pm

Personally, I LOVE to run with music. It gives me an energy boost when I need it and it takes my mind off my aching muscles or heaving chest. I only run a couple of miles at a time, and often when I’m about a mile and a half in, I realize “Wow, i’m almost done!” The music helps push me along. I’m not trying to set any land speed records or train for any marathons, I just run to stay fit and improve my cardio-vascular health.

I would LOVE it if some people on here could continue to give me some suggestions on earphones that would work with my Ipod (I have a Nano that I bought about 3 years ago). I borrowed a pair of my wife’s earphones from her old “running radio” that you strapped to your arm and I use those for running (the traditional Ipod earbuds never stay in my ear). Please, keep giving me suggestions as to effective (and affordable) earphone options that I can use with my Ipod.

As for the music… do what I did and think about your favorite genre, and pick about 25 or 30 songs that are your favorites (ones that energize you or are quick-paced songs). Then just make a “running” playlist and shuffle around every time you run and listen to a few different songs. Be sure they are “fast” or “rockin”… a slow ballad or slow-building song is hard to run to (gotta keep your energy level up). Some of MY favorites (old school 80s rock stuff) are songs like 5150 by Van Halen, Raise Your Hands by Bon Jovi, Same Old Situation by Motley Crue, Kids Wanna Rock by Bryan Adams, Gypsy Road by Cinderella, Won’t Get Fooled Again by The Who, Hungry For Heaven by Dio, Slide It In by Whitesnake, Photograph by Def Leppard, Shot of Poison by Lita Ford, Secret of my Success by Night Ranger, Tattooed Millionaire by Bruce Dickinson, Tease Me Please Me by the Scorpions, and I’ll Fall In Love Again by Sammy Hagar.

Have fun on your run!

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Jeff

May 9th, 2011
1:41 pm

And for the record, I do NOT run on a busy road where traffic is an issue — I run on sidewalks or on running trails or on local tracks. If you DO use earbuds, keep the volume low enough where you can hear a car approach, ALWAYS look around as you approach an intersection or a neighborhood entrance, and don’t use them if there is a lot of traffic.

Like I said, that’s why I prefer trails, limited access neighborhoods, or sidewalks… I don’t like to run on busy roads, especially with today’s unskilled and distracted drivers.

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Mel

May 10th, 2011
2:38 pm

After multiple occurances of being stuck behind large (5+) groups of runners all running together but drowning in a combination of their convo/ipods to the point to where they tune out everything around them….im a big fan of banning/limiting them at races.

Nice to have on a long lonely stretch at the back half…but dangerous to have in the crowded start areas.

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g

May 11th, 2011
3:22 am

Kennesaw Mountain

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Senior Citizen Kane

May 11th, 2011
4:32 am

Cochran Shoals at the Chattahoochee National Recreation area. Beautiful scenery and totally flat except for one tiny hill. But it can get a bit crowded with people who don’t control their dogs and kids and walk four abreast.

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Jim Philips

May 11th, 2011
4:46 am

I also love running in Piedmont Park. But the best scenery is at Stone Mountain Park. One lap around the mountain is five miles. The scenery there can’t be beat.

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iRun

May 11th, 2011
5:26 am

Yvonne,

Why not run from Grant Park to Freedom Park and back? It’s maybe an 8-miler, or could be less.

You could also run to Piedmont Park.

I live in Candler Park and I regularly run to Grant Park and Piedmont.

Head north on Boulevard, cross over to Carroll St through Cabbage town then up Krog then east on Edgewood, head north on Elizabeth to N Highland and jump on PATH at Freedom Park.

Or, once you get on Krog, keep going past Edgewood and take a left on Irwin. Right there at the tracks is the Beltline trail. Take it all the way to Piedmont Park.

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NL

May 12th, 2011
7:50 pm

Cheatham Hill off Burnt Hickory Road. It offers a hilly woodlands run on wide dirt trails, historical battlefield landmarks, and an exhilarating (or frustrating, depending on your risk taking tolerance) road-crossing at Dallas Highway. One caution: if you run past the Illinois monument though (on the south side of Dallas Hwy), you can easily get lost on the seemingly endless set of trail options.

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Runner

May 14th, 2011
11:50 am

I own 10 acres on a river which is 7 miles from my existing home, so I run to the land occasionally and meet my wife there for a “treat”.

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Doug

May 14th, 2011
4:42 pm

My fav running route is to start at the Emory Clairmont campus behind the VA hospital on Clairmont, run around the beautiful Lullwater Park and the mansion where Emory’s prez lives, then through the main campus, into beautiful Druid Hills on Oakdale, the Bye Way and Lullwater, back through the campus quad and through Lullwater to end, a total of ~7 miles. Then swim in the outdoor pool at the Clairmont Campus gym. I feel so lucky to have this beautiful nature to run through.

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Gen Neyland

May 15th, 2011
5:52 am

90% of all my runs are done from my rural front door. I have nearly zero traffic to speak of, no concrete sidewalks and a county park apx 3 miles from home with an asphalt 1/4 mile oval. Also, there is a .6 tenth mile hll with a healthy degree of difficulty 800 yards from the house that can be run on or off the road. Although I spend much time running close to home, I practically never bore of the scenery. Nature always offers up something new to see…

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BC

May 15th, 2011
6:07 am

You have got to love Chastian Park of Roswell Rd.

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BC

May 15th, 2011
6:09 am

Sorry, off Roswell Road.

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Deanna

May 15th, 2011
8:26 am

I’ve just been running out and back on Peachtree Street. I wish there were some more scenic areas to run intown. Piedmont Park is OK, but when you start doing nine and ten mile runs, you don’t just want to do a million laps in the park.

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Lis

May 17th, 2011
11:28 am

While training for the GA half, the boyfriend and I managed to get pretty creative with runs in town. One of our fave ideas was to take Marta out and then run home. This took a little planning, but not much.

Another great area was around Fernbank.

While training for our full in the fall we plan to do theme/scavenger runs. IE: pass as many educational institutions as we can in 10 miles, find the most McDonalds in a given area. These are fun for the long slow distance runs and help us pass the time.

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Annette

May 17th, 2011
12:49 pm

I ran near a man dressed as a turkey in the Atlanta Half Marathon last year (on Thanksgiving). It cracked me up because spectators yelled “Go turkey!” the whole time. It was a warm Thanksgiving, though, and he was pouring sweat when I saw his face for the first time after the finish line.

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Gen Neyland

May 17th, 2011
2:35 pm

Costumed runners are a breed apart. I think it’s more a ‘See Me’ thing. And see you, we of regular (boring..?) running attire, do. I appreciate the fact that it’s you and not me that has the courage to dress outside the box. I’ll stick to boring and silently thank you for not being related to me (that’s a funny, not meant to harm)…

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Ryne

May 17th, 2011
3:19 pm

While still relatively new to running around my apartment. I will purposely take a wrong turn onto a street I have not been on before just to see where it leads, though runs become considerably longer when that happens.

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mattborenstein

May 17th, 2011
9:00 pm

Lis, I really like those ideas. I live next to a MARTA station, but unfortunately, it’s right on Peachtree. And other than July 4 for the AJC Peachtree, Peachtree seems to be an awful street to run on (although many people do). For another sponsor plug and maybe to test your counting skills, finding Waffle Houses on a long run could be fun. Which Fernbank do you run around – the museum, the science center or the paved trail through Fernbank Forest? I did recently head to some urban nature and run on a trail around a neighborhood lake. It was fun, but either my legs were tired or not used to the dirt. I was slow. I still have Stone Mountain, the Chattahoochee and now Fernbank Forest/Fernbank area on my list of place to explore. And maybe a trip on MARTA, too. Thanks for the ideas, y’all.

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Angie

May 18th, 2011
3:08 pm

I ran many a race in colorful attire including B2B in 2006. This huge multi-hued extravaganza was big and heavy and warm. My friend and I design and construct our own costumes. I was dressed as a furry space alien and my pal a six-legged creature from Smot. It’s like running in your bed (if you can imagine) and pretty darn hot and painful. But hey, it’s make me a better runner with faster times when I’m only jogging in athletic apparel at a not so crazy race.

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Diana

May 18th, 2011
5:35 pm

A parsec is a unit of distance, so unless you cut the race short…. That doesn’t really work out.

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PJ

May 18th, 2011
6:39 pm

Yeah, I like to go to 5K’s with someone so I have someone to talk to before and after but I just have to run my own pace. Thank God I have a great friend who ran my first 1/2 marathon and full marathon with me at my pace. I couldn’t do that for anyone so I just love and appreciate her so much for doing it for me :-)

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RM

May 18th, 2011
7:07 pm

I prefer to run alone. I tried run club a couple times, but eh…

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Gen Neyland

May 18th, 2011
10:13 pm

I’d guess that running a serious training run with a partner requires a certain finesse I don’t have. Like doing the two-step or the bugaloo, it takes two or more working in unison like the Budweiser Clydesdales or Fred and Ginger. I’ve run training runs with 3 of our 5 children, once each, and those runs were of a medium distance we covered at their pace. I ran a PRR with a daughter from start to finish at her pace also. Those were cherished moments but other than that, I’m pure solo…

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Beth

May 19th, 2011
7:34 am

Yvonne’s comments to you surprise me. If you’re really racing a 5K no way should you be able to talk during it.

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Marius Maximus

May 19th, 2011
10:28 am

While running coaches agree that most of one’s training should be done at a conversational pace, that does not hold for races: If you’re able to chat during a race, you can probably go faster! :) I enjoy running with others, regardless of whether it is during a tempo run or a long run on the weekend. While it is typically impossible to have a conversation during a faster run such as a tempo or threshold run, it is good to have company as not wanting to fall behind can be a powerful motivator to maintain a fast pace when the body really wants to slow down. On a two-hour-plus long run on the weekend, I really enjoy being able to run with others who can maintain a similar pace. On these long runs my usual training partner and I will usually talk about anything and everything, from politics and anything in the news through running, training and racing to relationships and religion and what have you. Even when we get really tired towards the end and the conversation slows and stops, I appreciate having someone there to share the experience.

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Pam

May 19th, 2011
5:39 pm

Coming from someone that has something similar to ‘cardiac hill’ on EVERY course I run in town… here is my advice. LOOK DOWN. Don’t look up towards the hill, look down and in front of you – look at other people’s shoes, their stride, their socks anything low. When I don’t look at how much hill I have left it makes it SO much easier!!! Also I try to lean into the hill, stay on my toes and go faster!! I know that sounds weird, but if I lean in, stay on my toes and try to run up the hill faster I seem to do better!!! Hang in there and YOU CAN DO IT. I don’t know if it’s because I train on hilly courses or what but the past 2 years I’ve run (I’ve only done 3 PRR’s and the first one I WALKED) I’ve said “when is cardiac hill?” and my hubby responded “we passed it”. (apparently I dont know what cardiac hill is??!!) So if you are running with someone – tell them not to tell you when/where it is. Just run :)

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Debbie

May 19th, 2011
6:09 pm

I’m also a PRR newbie and actually a newbie overall to running (since last summer only). This will be my first 10K and I’m concerned about the same things………hills and humidity. Pam, thanks for the pointers on looking down while going up that hill. That’s actually opposite of what I usually do because I always look ahead and stay focused on short-term goals as I’m running. I will definitely try that as I continue my training and see how that helps me. I’d love to be able to find a hill that is similar distance and grade as cardiac hill so I can be more prepared.

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Darcy

May 20th, 2011
8:38 am

I’m a PRR Newbie too, I hate hills, and I agree with Pam. LOOK DOWN! When you size up the hill you get overwhelmed…and you realize how painful it is. Also, (tip from Kara Goucher) count to 100. It keeps you distracted. Good luck!!

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It's Just Hype

May 20th, 2011
10:48 am

I stayed out of Peachtree for a few years because of the fear of cardiac hill. I know it’s a steep hill but eveyone fails to mention that right before cardiac hill you will be coming downhill for what seems about one mile or so. If you pace yourself properly you will be half-way up cardiac before you even realize you are now running up a hill. To be honest, I think the up-hill turn crossing over I-85/passing by the Amtrack is much tougher or maybe it’s just tougher because it’s after you have completed cardiac.

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Gen Neyland

May 21st, 2011
7:34 am

Hills can be brutal in many ways (up and down) but I think you’re on track by recognizing they present a mental barrier. Hill work is, IMHO, a vital and necessary, almost weekly function plus my runs from home include them. I don’t try to slay hills per-say, I attempt to live in harmony with them. The tag Cardiac Hill carries with it a sense that it will eat you alive and spit you out. Depends on how one approaches it mentally and physically. Just pace yourself accordingly, save a kick for the home stretch and smile for the camera…

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48 yr old jogger

May 21st, 2011
7:53 am

I ran 7 straight races from 30-37 yrs old and now getting back into shape to take on the 2011 race at 48 yrs old. My best advice for newbies is pace yourself according to your fitness level….just getting to the start line is exhausting (5am wake up, walking from MARTA, standing for one hour, etc.) I see so many people sprint the first mile with excitement and by the time they get to heartbreak hill, they are walking!! If in your preparation you run 9 minute miles, then pace yourself to run 9 minute miles during the race…no world records here! It’s an amazingly gratifying feeling to run the complete race and not walk!! Don’t forget: carb load the day before the race and lots of water in advance. You will do great!!

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Nora

May 21st, 2011
9:48 am

I agree about looking at the ground right in front of you vs. looking toward the top of the hill. Although I’ve heard runners say the opposite: “Focus on the summit”, that just doesn’t work well for me. If I look right in front of my feet, then I am literally taking the hill One Step at a Time rather than looking ahead and having the feeling of running up a mountain.

Except for maybe some really hardcore types, nobody really LIKES hills. But they are just a part of the challenge of running. I find runs on long, flat stretches to be somewhat boring compared to the challenges of rolling terrain. I regularly run hilly routes in my training so a hill in a race is just something to take in stride – no different from the hills I run up week after week. The main thing is to adjust your pace so that your level of perceived effort stays about the same. If you know where the hills are in the course, you can pace yourself accordingly.

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iRun

May 21st, 2011
8:42 pm

Actually, it looks like a lot of fun…but it’s not running and I would still run. Because iRun and I love running because…well, it’s probably the most essential rigorous physical activity you can do, if you have 2 good legs.

But, I’d take this puppy for a spin with my kid on PATH in Freedom Park and enjoy the ride.

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iRun

May 21st, 2011
8:45 pm

Good practice is to run west on North Ave, from Candler Park to Spring St. It’s pretty much 2.5 miles of up.

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Jeff

May 22nd, 2011
2:41 am

Looks great but for $2500?!!!! maybe $1000…. Way over priced…

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Gen Neyland

May 22nd, 2011
9:26 pm

A question hit me as I looked at the photo : Do circus clowns wear helmets when riding unicycles..?

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Liz

May 24th, 2011
2:21 pm

I got my best Peachtree time in 2008 after chugging two beers at the Mile 1 marker! Really relaxed my muscles.

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S

May 24th, 2011
2:22 pm

As a former Marine, I can personally say there is no greater feeling than running while you’re sloshed.

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Opdo

May 24th, 2011
7:54 pm

I always drink two beers the night before my long run, including the night before running a marathon.

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Gen Neyland

May 24th, 2011
8:47 pm

Carbo loading on mass quantities of beer the night before a serious racing event isn’t a great idea, although a couple is good…and never eat fish as a pre-race meal. Bad juju in Mahi-Mahi.

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joe

May 24th, 2011
9:11 pm

Beer in Running you mean like the Beer Belly?

http://gbit.com/beerbelly/bb2main.htm

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Reid in EAV

May 25th, 2011
10:58 am

As a veteran of four half-marathons, currently training for my first 26.2 (with the Peachtree a mile marker along the way), I have never felt my regular, moderate craft beer consumption got in the way of my training or racing. There’s no better way to motivate yourself through a hard tempo run than to know that a glass of Duvel (or something similar) awaits you at the finish.

Then there’s Tim Cigelske, my inspiration. Known as “The Beer Runner,” Tim is currently well on his way to 365 days both running and drinking at least one beer. And the dude is FAST, too. (Follow him on Twitter @TheBeerRunner and oh heck, follow me too: @TheRunDaddy.)

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DHD

May 25th, 2011
9:15 pm

I run on Big Creek Greenway in Forsyth County. When it’s not cold, I see a snake almost every time I go out. I saw the black and yellow snake today. I have seen a copperhead as well. Sometimes, I stop and take a picture. Most of the time, i simply avoid the snake. Yesterday, I saw a huge turtle. Actually, the biggest turtle I have ever seen right on the Greenway. That thing was scarier than a snake. I love seeing all the animals at Big Creek.

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Mudville Nine

May 25th, 2011
10:34 pm

So I am not a runner, but I hike in several places around the metro area with my dog frequently.

I have seen more snakes in the last month than I have the last few years. I don’t know if it’s because summer weather has come earlier than usual or what, but be careful out there people!

We have almost stepped on a couple before we realized it was there.

And yes, I pick up after my dog. Those who don’t need to be called out.

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Ted Striker

May 25th, 2011
11:33 pm

Great column.

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Ramblin Recluse Road

May 26th, 2011
5:47 am

A black and yellow snake is a King snake.

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Gen Neyland

May 26th, 2011
5:59 am

You’ve touched upon a delimma that faces not only off-roAd runs, but early morning rural asphalt run as well. BTW, did you know that snakes will climb trees and have been known to drop out of them..? Happy trails..!

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renegade#1

May 26th, 2011
6:44 am

Yeah I’ve had them drop out of trees in boats with me. Them suckers will make you tear a boat up. There just aint enough room in a boat for me and a snake. Yall do know thats how Jesus learned to walk on water.

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Lis

May 26th, 2011
7:04 am

I love running by the Hooch right outside the Perimeter. I love to look for snakes in the water there. There are several gorgeous (but a few dangerous) snakes around here. But I also got pretty familiar with the “Southern Reptiles” part in the Audobon Nature guide so I really can know which ones to avoid. King snakes (what it sounds like you saw) are great for controlling pest populations. The only ones that freak me out a bit are cottonmouths…just so dang mean! But overall, wildlife spotting is one of my fave run activities.

At Cochrane Shoals in one 3 mile run I’ve seen a rat snake, blue heron, weird crested bird thing, several turtles (red eared sliders, I think) and countless jays. Gorgeous slice of nature right outside the city.

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TK

May 26th, 2011
7:22 am

Love walking on the Silver Comet Trail. Grassy areas are on both sides of the trail, but some careless owners prefer that their dogs poop where people travel without cleaning it up. Come on people!!! Either clean up after your dog or let it do its business in the grass.

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Legalize it

May 26th, 2011
11:28 am

What about medical marijuana? I wouldn’t know but my roommate swears that if he medicates prior to running that it helps.

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Ryne

May 26th, 2011
3:07 pm

That reminds me of one time when I was running on the Athens greenway, when a stick on the trail miraculously started to move right as I was stepping over it. I then promptly ran the other direction.

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Naretha

May 26th, 2011
8:18 pm

I LOVE to run in the rain! (well…not when there’s a deluge of biblical proportions lol) It’s relaxing; almost hypnotic. A nice gentle rain can help keep me cool during the humid/hot summer.

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RM

May 26th, 2011
8:30 pm

I’ve never run in the rain. That’s what gyms are for :)

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Sarah

May 26th, 2011
8:42 pm

Running in the rain is like a challenge for me to overcome. I always feel like the super hardcore runners see it’s raining and run anyway, and I have NEVER categorized myself as anything but a total running noob. This summer, I resolve to take a run in the rain just so I can think about how awesome I am. :-)

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Purple Drank

May 26th, 2011
10:13 pm

The Peachtree Road Race is not competitive. It’s 50,000 plus getting a t shirt who think they are cool because they are one of fifty five thousand. Big whup….You wanna fight?

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mirandalambert2012

May 26th, 2011
10:20 pm

I believe it was the 1994 Peachtree Roadrace when there was some rain at the beginning of the race and I think had my best time in that race.

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B

May 26th, 2011
10:23 pm

I live in the mountains not far from Highlands. Went out on a low trail a few weeks ago, not far from the Chatooga at the old iron bridge. Was doing seem speed work on parts of the trail which weren’t too rough. Just as I slowed down, there he/she/it was across the entire trail. I think my little-girl scream must have hurt his eardrum (or the equivalent–whatever a snake has): immediately coiled and started rattling. Damn….. Had to turn around and retrace (I’d gone about 3/4 of my loop). Every stick and root I saw the rest of the way back scared the crud out of me. Oh well…

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OZ Runner

May 27th, 2011
12:14 am

I’m not a huge fan of starting out a run when it’s pouring down rain, but if it’s just a light rain or if it starts to downpour while I’m in the middle of a run I quite like it. I find the rain cools me down and maybe I’m crazy, but when I’m done I feel like I’ve achieved something beyond simply logging the miles.

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Bryan

May 27th, 2011
5:49 am

Running in the rain = brick shoes.

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Gen Neyland

May 27th, 2011
6:10 am

Every runner has a cut off due to the elements.
-15 ambient or with a wind chill factor or lightning have comprised my door stoppers. The low temp factor has been revised as I’ve aged to read,” Not today, maybe tomorrow.”. Threat of lightning, I make every effort to avoid it. Regarding running in the rain, we might have to run our races of choice in rainy weather. So in essence, one needs to train through it so that if it’s wet on your parade, you’re ready. Just not rain with lightning, never.

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Jeff

May 27th, 2011
7:15 am

Ran 7 miles very early this morning in a light rain. I felt like I was cheating. Loved it.

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mattborenstein

May 27th, 2011
8:33 pm

I started my run yesterday in-between the storms, hoping for some rain to eventually fall. And by the end it did. I didn’t quite realize I was running through a severe thunderstorm warning (I did see one big flash of lightening/hear one big bang), but I did drop my time on my four-mile loop by 1:10. Partly because it was so cool and partly because I eventually figured out I should get home quick, I flew. Like others have said, I too enjoy a good run in the rain. Most of the time it’s a lot cooler plus the rain works to cool you off and you have a water stop any time you want. A surprised myself how fast I’ve run in my past two rain 5Ks (probably two of the three fastest I have run over the past few years). The problem yesterday was running up a hill with water streaming down and flooded streets. The soaked shirt surely added a few pounds. By the end it was bad. 24 hours later, my shoes were still wet. But I had a great run. I highly recommend a rain run (as long as it is safe).

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Parker H

May 29th, 2011
6:33 am

I can’t run without music. Some of my faves are 1901 by Phoenix, straight lines by Silverchair, Running on Empty by Jackson Browne, Bleed American by Jimmy Eat World, B.O.B by Outkast, The Cave by Mumford and Sons, My Hero by Foo Fighters and At Your Funeral by Saves the Day.

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RM

May 29th, 2011
9:25 am

I am going to steal a couple of those songs! I could not do earbuds – they just kept popping out … too annoying. I got these and they are awesome… it’s not the exact model I got, but it is the same style and brand – Sony. They are similar to earbuds, but the sit on the ledge of your ear and have the over the head piece. They can take moisture and they don’t fall off. http://tinyurl.com/3jkplm8

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Runner

May 29th, 2011
5:05 pm

Clocks – Coldplay
My Hometown – Bruce Springsteng
The River – Bruce Springsteng
Whiskey River – Willie Nelson

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Runneratl

May 29th, 2011
7:41 pm

Great playlist so far….I will be adding some of your songs to my list. Here are some favs of mine: Coming Home – Dirty Money, Blow-Kesha, Not Afraid and Lose Yourself-Eminem, Empire State of Mind-JayZ, Starry Eyed Surprise-Oakenfold, Rockafeller Skank-Fatboy Slim, Live Your Life-T.I. Feat. Rhianna, and Sweet Disposition-Temper Trap. Trust. They are tried and true. Great to run to. Thanks for the playlist! Happy Running!

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Gen Neyland

May 30th, 2011
7:35 am

Hmmm. So we revisit this topic. I run with naked ears but if I were to cover them and slog with sound, it would include Little Feat’s, Feat Don’t Fail Me Now.

Memorial Day. Let us remember those that laid down the ultimate sacrifice…

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LydiasDad

May 30th, 2011
3:03 pm

Juvenile is a scamming idiot.

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Amanda

May 30th, 2011
4:24 pm

I have a random mix for running, but always try to start races with a Jay-Z or Kanye West song. Those are the best!

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Skram30082

May 30th, 2011
4:48 pm

I usually just grab my iPod and set it to shuffle, but these are my current favs:

Tangled Up in Blue or Simple Twist of Fate (Dylan)
Born to Run, Thunder Road or Jungleland (Springsteen)
Young American (Bowie)
Nothhin’ But A Good Time (Poison)
Superstition (Stevie Wonder)
Anything from Dark Side of the Moon (Pink Floyd)
Friend of the Devil (Grateful Dead)
I Know I’m Not Alone (Michael Franti & Spearhead)
Revolution Starts Now (Steve Earle)
Maggie Mae, Every Picture Tells a Story, Stay With Me (Rod Stewart)
Jump (House of Pain)
Under the Influence (James Morrison)
Stranger Than You (Joe Jackson)
Alison (Elvis Costello)
Whole Lotta Love/Walk on the Wild Side/Ramble On Medley (Train)

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georgiagirl35

May 30th, 2011
5:16 pm

I noticed you had another song that had “run” in the title. I Run to You by Lady Antebellum, :)

Here are songs that I like to run to if I chose to use my iPod (I prefer no music):

Linus and Lucy, Baba O’Rielly- The Who, Boom- P.O.D., Boys of Summer- Don Henley, Circus- Britney Spears, Enter Sandman- Metallica, Fat Bottomed Girls- Queen, Glory, Glory- UGA, Going the Distance- Rocky Soundtrack, Half Acre- Hem, Hard Sun- Eddie Vedder, I Love You Always Forever- Donna Lewis, I want you- Savage Garden, It Takes Two- Rob Base and DJ E-Z Rock, Joyful Noise- Flame, Just Say Yes- Snow Patrol, Learning to Fly- Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.

Very random but songs I just really like :)

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PowerWalkPerson

May 30th, 2011
6:20 pm

I love the tunes from MotionTraxx. They are sync’d to the beat for walking, jogging and running. I especially like those for 135 to 145 bpm. EXCELLENT! By the way, the downloads are free! http://www.motiontraxx.com

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Debbie

May 31st, 2011
6:07 pm

This will be my first PRR and my first 10K. I’m so afraid I’m not going to be ready. I’m concerned more about the heat and humidity than the distance. I’m anxious to read how others are preparing during these last few weeks so that I can get some pointers.

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Gen Neyland

May 31st, 2011
9:43 pm

To all those participating in this years PRR, Good luck…To all those that missed out or made other
plans this year (me), find another event and shoot for it. Happy trails.

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mattborenstein

May 31st, 2011
9:58 pm

Hello there Debbie. There’s nothing to be afraid of. I’ve done this thing a lot (somewhere around 10 times) and made it to the end each time. The best way, at least for me, to get ready for the heat/humidity is to run outside in Atlanta when it’s hot and humid. Since the AJC Peachtree takes place in the morning, running at about the same time will give you a feel for what the weather might be like. If you run later in the day, running early on July 4 might actually feel “cool.” But certainly be careful training when it’s hot.

Another trick I like is to run on the left side of the road during the Peachtree. With the sun rising in the east, the left side of the road will generally have more shade, and thus be a little cooler at the start.

Also, a benefit of the Peachtree is there will be tons of water to drink. There are official water stops about every mile with plenty of water plus more people along the side of the road will be giving out water/ice. Make sure to take advantage. One final thing. The first three miles are downhill before the steep incline up to Piedmont Hospital. Make sure you don’t go out too fast because you eventually will have to go up. Let me know if you have any more questions about the race. Matthew

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mattborenstein

May 31st, 2011
10:27 pm

Thanks. We took care of him. Matthew

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Sharon

June 1st, 2011
6:56 am

This will be my first Peachtree @ 50.Not a runner, but will walk/jog . May cross the finish line last. But going to do it.

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Gen Neyland

June 1st, 2011
9:22 pm

Road Racing Etiquette Lesson # 24 : The left side of the road needs to be respected for people faster and individual runners need to know their place/pace/ability regarding running in a pack. A race the size of the PRR, that may not always be doable but be cognizant that some runner may be hauling by the time they hit Mile 2 and they will silently cuss some slogger blocking their way. Middle of the road is an acceptable starting point and gage from there. Although, it is the Peachtree, soooo….

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MsQ

June 3rd, 2011
9:58 pm

@Sharon, you will not be alone in the walk/jog! I’m over 50 and after too many accidents and injuries my running days are long behind me. In fact my even being able to walk the PRR this year will be a treat and an accomplishment for me. I’m praying my back holds up.

Want to get use to the heat, try driving without the air conditioner in the afternoon.

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Cloudodust

June 4th, 2011
7:41 am

Joanna

June 4th, 2011
8:31 am

Sadly, I have not been able to train as much as I did for two years straight. Much as I love my morning work schedule, it cuts out those runs and it’s too hot to train in the afternoons. I don’t have access to a treadmill. I’m going to do what I can running/walking and instead of going for speed as my competitive side demands, I’m going to make an attempt to simply enjoy the race this year.

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Martin

June 4th, 2011
8:44 am

Anyone get their Peachtree number yet? Still waiting.

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Kay

June 4th, 2011
8:55 am

Did 5.2 miles at St. Simons in the heat/humidty yesterday….it was rough on flat land…wondering how I’m going to make it on those hills.

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LydiasDad

June 4th, 2011
9:11 am

I need to quit eating M&Ms first.

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Jim Philips

June 4th, 2011
9:27 am

I’ve never run this race or a 10K before. I’ve been running on Peachtree to prepare. This morning, I started near the High Museum and ran downhill to Peachtree Battle, the low point. Then I turned around and ran back up the hill to where I started. That covered all of the hard parts. Hot and sweaty, but I made it.

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Jozef

June 4th, 2011
9:44 am

Just finished my first 10K run around Stone Mountain (one loop and then some). The terrain there is more difficult that on Peachtree, so I have high hopes I’ll make it to the finish line in one piece.

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Trish

June 4th, 2011
9:53 am

I normally run 4 miles but I ran 5 today….Totally excited about the race, this will be my 5th PTRR!

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Bobby

June 4th, 2011
10:00 am

In the past I ran it because it was my home city’s race (well, actually I live in Tucker, but nevertheless). I run 10 to 13 miles on Saturday and do 3 to 4 hour long runs weekday afternoons, either at the Tucker High School track or on a treadmill at my gym when temps get too hot. I’m not overly excited about the race this year as I feel the lottery system is making us too much like New York City. My only goal in this one is keeping my pace under an hour.

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Bobby

June 4th, 2011
10:04 am

@mattbornstein. The only problem with running on the left is you miss the holy water sprinkler as well as the priest sprinkling runners as they go past on the right hand side around mile 2. I forget which church he represents. I always make sure I get the holy water from both sources just in case. :)

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Ramona S

June 4th, 2011
11:11 am

This will be my 6th PRR. I am more than ready for it. :) As for the first timers, good luck. Enjoy the run. And please remember…if you are going to walk stay on the right side so us runners don’t have to slow down to go around you. :)

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Nora

June 4th, 2011
12:02 pm

I just keep on keeping on since I run all year round. The main thing right now is acclimating to the heat. It will take this whole next month to gradually get acclimated. But I have to say right here, that it surprises me how many people don’t run 10-11 months of the year but then “train” for the Peachtree for a month or two. Maybe if you are young, in good shape, and otherwise athletic you can pull that off. But for most of us middle aged folks it is going to take more training than that to run this race. I know I will be dodging missiles after I say this, but I’m just not impressed by people who can’t run the whole thing (unless, of course, you have some kind of physical disability or health problem – that’s another story, so that’s not who I’m talking about!) If you plan to run the Peachtree, then why not train like you really mean it? In the years I have run the PTRR, it has become less of a RACE and more of an “event”. They should just call it “Big Crowds of People Walking and Jogging down Peachtree Street”.

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Bobby

June 4th, 2011
12:10 pm

@Nora. I run the entire race BUT I am passed ever year by people doing the run/walk. So it depends which one gets you to the finish line faster and/or with last pain. There is no such thing as only one way of running. As for missiles, you are entitled to your opinion and training method just as anything else including run/walkers. Whatever works best is what someone should use.

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AT Powell

June 4th, 2011
12:11 pm

This is my 4th PRR and first time attempting to run it in less than 1 hour. I have been running mornings 3 times a week at Stone Mountain in and morning but with the race being a month away I am going to push it to 4 or 5 and will restrict my diet even further.

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2BT

June 4th, 2011
12:32 pm

Nora, consider me the first offended at 42. Get bent. This day is not about YOU!

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PRR Vet

June 4th, 2011
12:47 pm

This will be my 31st. I did not do the last three and I’ll probably walk some of this one. My knees are shot from running for 35 years! In my youth I ran it in about 46 minutes every year.

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runallyear

June 4th, 2011
12:53 pm

I run all year but feel this race is for everyone! But please,PLEASE don’t take up the left side if you are not running UNLESS you have to.I do feel some just do it out of spite and some have no clue about it.Mile 1 and 2,well that may be a hard thing to do in this crowd,but later down the line just be respectful about it,PLEASE!

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Gen Neyland

June 4th, 2011
6:47 pm

PRR Vet :
With all the newer medical technology and resources out here helping runners try to remain injury free for life, doesn’t all the years of prior running make you feel a bit jilted..? I’m a 20 year vet and wish some of the doctors out here now had been around years earlier.

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C2

June 7th, 2011
12:29 pm

I have no problems running “my race”. I will meet up with friends and loved ones at the finish line to cheer them on.

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QTee

June 7th, 2011
12:35 pm

! Yup I stay w/ the hubby, during the PRR & enjoy the same sites & people w/ him! It’s all about enjoying being American & independence on that day! <3

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Christy

June 7th, 2011
12:42 pm

My rule – if we trained together, we finish together. It has been difficult for me to stick to this when I am the one that is faster, but I know how crushed I would be if I was the one to be left behind.

The rule should be that if you are okay with being left behind, you can leave others behind. Just make sure your friend or s/o knows that you will leave them before you sign up together.

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RM

June 7th, 2011
12:57 pm

I like to race on my own so I can do my best. I don’t want to worry about others’ speed or have others worry about slowing down for me. We always say see ya at the end. I think people should decide before the race if it’s ok to go it alone of if you’ll stick together through the end. If you say you’ll stay with them, you should.

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Annette

June 7th, 2011
1:00 pm

I have been the leaver and the leavee. I think it’s fine to split up–but some people may be more sensitive. My friend left me around mile 8 of the Atlanta Half Marathon last year, and I was sort of relieved not to have to keep her pace anymore. I only finished three minutes behind her.

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sue

June 7th, 2011
1:25 pm

I am usually the slow one; especially on the hills. I have told my friends in the PRR with me that they are more than welcome to go ahead of me- and I mean it. I feel terrible holding people back and will be happy just to finish; this will be my first 10k!

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BR

June 7th, 2011
1:37 pm

I have been “the weak link,” before, encouraging running mates to leave me but they didn’t. After that I always made sure to train so I would not be the one holding people back. I’ve also been with other friends who were the weak links who did not train, and got angry/upset when I left them. I guess it depends on the situation. My boyfriend and I don’t race together. We both like to run to our potential.

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BR

June 7th, 2011
1:38 pm

Good luck on your first Peachtree and 10K sue!

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Chet

June 7th, 2011
2:57 pm

I have had similar experiences; my wife and I train together for every race we run (Atlanta Marathon, PRR)and I get the urge to go, even after promising to stay with her. Since I am about pushing for my PB time, and she is about finishing, I do not see it changing. the guilt comes with the territory, accept it and run your race.

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PJ

June 7th, 2011
3:09 pm

I have to “run my race”. I was fortunate to have a patient friend who stuck by me through 2 half marathons and 1 full marathon. I praised her and thanked her so much because I just can’t do that for someone. I have to just run whatever way I have to do it. For those of you who stick by us and adjust your pace for us – thank you!

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BzzRnnrGuy

June 7th, 2011
7:22 pm

My fiance and I signed up for the PRR together this year. I have been less active with my running since HS, and this will be his first 10K. When he first broached the subject, I had wanted to run separately if our paces were significantly different on race day, but now that I think about it, it’s much more likely that I’ll be running with him. It all depends on the situation, I guess, but his first 10K and P’tree is a notable event, and I won’t be running PBs again any time soon. We’re making the trip back to Atlanta for my sixth PRR (on my insistence), so I think I should just enjoy the run and celebrate his first 10K with him.

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Lynnie

June 7th, 2011
8:34 pm

I always say “im slow as a snail. We can start together, but dont let me hold you up”. All my girlfriends are faster than i am. The only thing i have going for me is that i am consistent. I always finish. And I even have ran several half Marathons, and im STILL SLOW. :-) What im leading up to is… i ran the Disney Princess half marathon with my best friend. Shes way faster than me. I had ran a half marathon 2 weeks previous, and when we hit mile 11, i had to start walking. I told her to go. it was her first Half marathon, and i wanted her time to be good. She refused! and Pushed me to get moving. This bickering continued for the next mile or so, until i realized, she was NOT leaving me. When we crossed that finish line, i was so excited… and so was she. And yes, we did get to share that feeling of accomplishment together. That was my most awesome race memory. BUT, for the record, i would NOT have been mad had she decided to run on ahead. A true friend finds happiness in your success as well as their own.

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graydog

June 7th, 2011
11:31 pm

It all depends on why you’re running the race. If you both agree you’re actually racing and going for your best time, by all means every person for him or herself. But not every race is a race. PRR is an event. So is a spouse’s, good friend’s or training partner’s first big race – whether it’s a first 5K, 10K or marathon. My partner has never been a runner and never had any desire to run a 10K, even though she would cheer me on at marathons and other events. But after dedicating a full year to getting fit, she set completing PRR as a goal last year. My normal pace is a good bit faster, but I promised we’d do it together. Seeing the race through her eyes, pointing out all of my favorite parts of the course, and seeing the joy and pride on her face as she approached the finish were all priceless. I wouldn’t trade any PR for that feeling and the wonderful memory of enjoying it together. I did the same thing many years ago with my mom. I’ve run many PRRs, but I’ll never forget those two races. Running and relationships aren’t about getting to the finish line as fast as possible – it’s all about the journey.

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Deanna

June 8th, 2011
10:49 am

This is why I don’t like to run with other people, period. I like to feel free to do my own thing. That’s one of the things I like the most about running. Only my own expectations and goals are in play. I don’t have to worry about letting anybody else down. I am a team of one when I run!

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Liz

June 8th, 2011
11:01 am

My boyfriend and I have “trained” together, but he’ll definitely be running ahead of me at PPR. He’s been running it for the past 13 years, and is a seated runner (I’ll be in group B). I’d feel worse if I made him run for me. Plus, after he finishes he runs back, finds me, and finishes the last mile with me.

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j

June 8th, 2011
2:39 pm

I think most runners, such as myself, already know this information … oh well, thanks for posting.

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Buzz

June 8th, 2011
8:02 pm

My son ran with me last year for his first PTRR, much to my delight, but when we passed the final photo point, even though we were wearing identical shirts, none of the photographers got us together which was a disappointment. Hope they get both of us in the same shot this year and we will finish together even though I he can probably do it faster than I can.

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Stan

June 9th, 2011
11:04 am

Is running with a hat on better or worse for you in terms of staying cool? The sweat keeps from dripping on your face, but the hat gets hot….thoughts?

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Michael

June 9th, 2011
11:28 am

This is your first column I have read, so I’m not sure if you’re a PT novice or not. That being said,
all those people, the heat, and the humidity make for tough conditions. Take advantage of every water break along the way, even if you just throw it over your head as you run.

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Jeff

June 9th, 2011
4:46 pm

Interesting article, and some helpful information for those who are Yankees or not accustomed to running in the Southern heat. Be sure to train carefully, people, no matter when or where you are running.

That being said… I would MUCH rather run in the heat and humidity of Georgia summers than in ANYTHING else. I wouldn’t have it any other way… I LOVE it. I grew up in Atlanta, born and bred, and I vividly remember playing outside for HOURS in the summertime with my brother and my friends. We’d be out from morning until dinnertime, and remember some of those summers in the early 1980s, there would be several days on end of 100 degrees or more. But what we did was drink plenty of water (thanks to mom, who always made sure we took some breaks and hydrated) and we also were ACCUSTOMED to it. Our bodies got used to it. So, when I got to high school and I was battling through preseason soccer or cross country practices in late August, yeah it was hot, but it wasn’t unbearable and I survived them with ease. Actually, I think it made me a better athlete. I prided myself on toughing out late-game situations on a blistering hot mid-September day and having more endurance than my opponent.

I can’t run in the winter… I just can’t do it. Too effing cold. My body fights me violently… I can’t get my muscles loose, my joints hurt, my shoulders get stiff, my nose runs, my eyes water, my ears ache, and my chest burns and wheezes from the ice-cold air. Like I said, I guess it’s what we grew up with. During the summer, I LOVE to exercise… I can get loose, get stretched, and work up a good sweat. I played tennis every week last summer, sometimes in the oppressive mid-90s with a heat index in triple digits, and I loved every minute of it.

But if you do this (and this especially goes for our Northern transplants)… be SAFE about it. Hydrate THOROUGHLY during the day, even hours before you plan to exercise. Make sure you can cool off effectively after you run or work out… find a shady spot or a cool basement or something and get cooled off. Drink plenty of fluids after you exercise… sip them, don’t gulp. Get a good stretch AFTERWARDS, which is just as important as before. Take a cool shower about 45 minutes after you finish and be sure to hydrate that evening and with your next meal, to make sure you get enough water. And eat a good dinner after a late-afternoon run… look up some research and find the good proteins and carbs and veggies to eat post-workout.

I have never understood those who avoid exercising in heat at all costs… it’s Georgia in the summer, you just can’t do it (hell, the other night, it was 84 degrees at my house at 1 a.m.!) All you have to do is be SMART about it — planning ahead, proper hydration and nutrition, and getting a proper cool-down period afterwards are the keys. So don’t be afraid of the summer heat, folks… embrace it, use it as a challenge, and get your tan on while you’re running! Nothing like a good sweat to help you feel better and get those toxins out of your body!

Enjoy the weather, enjoy the running, and be safe out there!

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Annette

June 9th, 2011
5:18 pm

No–I hate having stuff with me when I run. I do wear a Spibelt for runs of 8+ miles so that I can carry Shot Bloks. Otherwise, just my watch, iPod shuffle, and Road ID.

Water every mile on the PRR course is sufficient for me–I usually stop once, if at all.

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PJ

June 9th, 2011
5:28 pm

I like to have my own water because I never seem to be thirsty when the have water stops but always where they are not ha! It is a little annoying to have a waist belt but I also put my ipod in it because I can’t stand it tied to my arm (I feel unbalanced). You get use to the belt too and you save time by not having to slow down at the water stops. For those really fast runners, they don’t run as long so they don’t need water but I’m not one of them ha!

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RM

June 9th, 2011
5:32 pm

I always do sunglasses and a hat, no matter the distance. Water – it’s hard to decide on my little 10 oz handheld bottle, a belt or nothing. I don’t think I will use the belt for the PRR, but maybe the handheld. I’m a little worried I’ll miss water stops with the amount of people there and get too thirsty.

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RM

June 9th, 2011
5:51 pm

Oh yes I always have my Garmin and Road ID as well!

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DHD

June 9th, 2011
5:58 pm

Since there are water stations, no need in taking water. I chew bubble gum. No sunglasses. This time, I’m listening to music. Last year, I was told we couldn’t and it seemed half the people had headphones. I will this year. I will wear the same shirt/shorts regardless of weather.

This is my second PRR. I lost 110 pounds the year before and have been running. I will do the Chicago Marathon in October. I’m ready for the PRR!!!

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Tish

June 9th, 2011
6:06 pm

I always wear my water belt, even though the constant swishing back and forth and up and down over my waist does bother me the first quarter mile. For the PRR I will wear my Road Runner Sports Visor, my cell and ID. Not sure about the bottoms yet. I have capris, but I’m thinking about getting shorts.

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Steve-O

June 9th, 2011
6:20 pm

>The forecast could call for clear skies and 90 degrees, and you could wake up to rain and 60.

No, it’s pretty much always clear skies and 90 degrees, no matter what. Plus all the heat coming from the 50K people jammed around you in the corrals. Rain and 60 would be fairly close to paradise.

The Peachtree is an OK race to do once or twice, but I’m done with it. Too ridiculously hot, too many people.

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John

June 9th, 2011
7:47 pm

Learn to run the race w/o stopping for water. If you are properly trained for the Peachtree (able to run 6.2 miles w/o stopping before hand), then it should take roughly an hour, maybe 1:10 if you are slow. I know that sounds funny, but if you spend the two weeks before hydrating, you won’t need that much water when running. I quit stopping for water after my 2nd Peachtree b/c all it did was slow me down and it made the race harder to run (got out of rhythm).
FYI: 3 of the last 4 Peachtrees have had the coolest starting temps ever.
I do recommend a dry fit shirt and shorts.

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Come on

June 9th, 2011
7:53 pm

If you can’t make it a mile with out water you shouldn’t be running the Peachtree.

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Come on

June 9th, 2011
7:55 pm

That is impressive.

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YellerSkeeters Are Peter Eaters!

June 9th, 2011
8:20 pm

I’ll drive my air-conditioned car down Peachtree and think of you all.

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RM

June 9th, 2011
8:54 pm

Does the chewing gum help cotton mouth?

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DHD

June 9th, 2011
8:57 pm

Chewing gum helps me.

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iRun

June 9th, 2011
9:00 pm

Well, let’s see…in this heat I’d probably just carry a water bottle. Either a handheld, like a Nathan or Ultimate Direction, or a plain old generic 20 oz bottle. I use the UD because I don’t like buying water. Don’t listen to people who say you don’t need any water on a 10K. Sure, it’s doable. But in 90F heat it’s stoopid. But you don’t need a lot. And you don’t need gatorade or gels for that short a distance. Just make sure you eat a bagel before and carry your water.

A handheld with 20oz should last you the whole race. The only time I carry hydration on my back (I have the UD Wink) is for my 50Ks.

Unless I’m on the trial I always wear sunglasses. No matter what, in the summer I wear a visor and keep it low to help keep sweat out the eyes.

Make sure you put sun screen on.

I almost never run with music, not even marathons and 50Ks. I might if I was doing something like 50m where I’ll be all alone for hours and hours. But this is the PRR. You’re going to be running in a crowd. Don’t mute the experience with headphones.

Have fun, most of all.

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RM

June 9th, 2011
9:09 pm

Thanks DHD .. I will try on my next run! :)

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iRun

June 9th, 2011
9:15 pm

@RM, gum does work great for cotton mouth. Inexplicably I find I don’t need it anymore, but ever since I migrated over to doing long distance running I’ve definitely slowed my pace. Back when I used gum I was cranking out 7 min/mile for anything under 10 miles. And I think the slower pace means less huffing and puffing and drying out the mouth.

For me, though, I found that most gum was too large and it made me feel like it was impeding my breathing…because we all become mouth breathers when we run. What I found was gum like Trident, or even half a Trident, was perfect. Experiment a bit to see what you like. But if a whole piece feels like you’re chewing on a pound of rubber when you’re running, just start throwing chunks of it away until it’s a size you’re comfortable with.

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iRun

June 9th, 2011
9:16 pm

I said “inexplicably” and then went on to explain it. Doh…

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RM

June 9th, 2011
9:20 pm

LOL, thank you also iRun! All that makes sense…. I was thinking maybe it could be nerves as well as some huffing and puffing…. maybe chewing a bit before the race and a little while into it would help. I will try several things to figure it out!

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Gen Neyland

June 9th, 2011
9:46 pm

For a 10K, a Purist wears running clothes and shoes. Hats, or headbands, and sunglasses round out the accessories ensemble. The rest of the stuff is a waste…
DHD : I’ve chewed Double Bubble bubblegum on runs for years. Actually helps with all phases, even track work..!

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iRun

June 9th, 2011
10:01 pm

@Gen, Purist sounds like a religion. Don’t do that…turns off noobs. I want the world to run.

This blog is about what you need to go the distance, not about keeping up with the competitive elite.

That being said…I don’t feel there’s much you need on for a 10K. I do think water should be accessible, either in the hand or stop at the tables, with this heat. Personally, I have to wear sunglasses or I get headaches…I’ve got sun sensitivity issues. But that’s one of those individual things. So, for me, water and sunglasses and sunscreen are about all I need for running for 50ish minutes in the blazing sun.

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Jeff

June 9th, 2011
10:02 pm

Wow, you people are SERIOUS, aren’t you? Folks, it’s just a race… unless you’re vying for a top-five overall finish, just relax and have fun! Geez…. wear shorts and a tee-shirt, take your ipod, and that’s it! The sun is not that bright at that hour of the morning… you don’t need to carry your own water (it’s only 6 miles, not a marathon)… and you don’t need sunglasses, hats, your CELL PHONE (good lord, really?), visors, or whatever the crap a “Road ID” is.

Just go out and RUN and have FUN! Some of you take running so seriously, it’s not enjoyable anymore. The Peachtree is an event, like a Jimmy Buffett concert… you just go for the experience and the memories. Don’t make it like trekking up Mount Everest… just go with it!

Oh, and by the way, I can’t imagine running without my Ipod… gotta have some music to pump me up and keep me going! It also helps me pace and takes my mind away from the running sometimes. To iRun at 9 p.m., who said “I almost never run with music …. this is the PRR. You’re going to be running in a crowd. Don’t mute the experience with headphones.” Dude, I don’t wanna hear 50,000 people moaning and groaning and breathing and wheezing and gulping and gasping and talking and belching… gimme my headphones all the time! It’s not a cocktail party where I’m having a conversation… it’s just a 6-mile run!

Just my 2-cents worth… but remember, some of you who are so uber-serious about running… take that attitude to the marathons and stuff. This isn’t the Olympics, it’s the PRR, so just ENJOY it! Good luck to everyone….

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Gen Neyland

June 10th, 2011
6:13 am

Shoot. I hate to be misunderstood by those that missed the MAR 2007 issue of Runner’s World. Here’s another’s perspective…
http://healthycollegegirl.wordpress.com/2011/01/23/10-reasons-to-be-a-running-purist/

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Annette

June 10th, 2011
6:33 am

Jeff–LOL. A Road ID is a tag attached to my shoe with my emergency contact info on it. I have it with me for all runs since I don’t carry a cell phone or driver’s license. Trust me, it’s not impeding anything.

I also don’t use my iPod for races–only for training runs when I’m alone.

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Cecil34

June 10th, 2011
7:40 am

I ran the race several times over 20 years ago. There were a lot of folks even back then running.

Enough folks to where you weren’t going to get a blazing time, due to weaving in and out of the slow ones.

I have to laugh about carrying your own water….not necessary. There is plenty of water available.

Here is the deal – if you run three times a week at least 3 miles, and run in some heat, and throw in a 5 miler every now and then, you can do 6.2 at 8 or 9 in the morning with little difficulty.

Now if you want to run with the Kenyans, then you are not who I am referring to.

Heartbreak hill is only heartbreak if you haven’t trained much.

One of the most interesting things about the run was when we would be done in the park, you would pass by the medical tents.

I was appalled at the souls who attempted this race who were very obviously in NO shape at all to run, much less 6.2.

They would be beet red and packed in ice!

Good luck to all!

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Lis

June 10th, 2011
9:59 am

I think it is irresponsible to run with an iPod when running in such a large event. you need to be aware of your surroundings. Blasting Beiber through your earbuds drowns out possibly important information.

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Will

June 10th, 2011
1:15 pm

I agree with Jeff and Cecil34. Each of these races provide feed zones either at various mile markers and at the end. If this is only 6mi – one should easily be able to run this without requiring any fluids. (I always find it humorous when I see one running with a water bottle). If you’re in marginal condition – then, go to Road Runner Sports and get a YIKES ID visible emergency identification because you never know if something could go wrong (i.e. you pass out from the heat or from listening to all those “50,000 people moaning and groaning and breathing and wheezing and gulping and gasping and talking and belching”).
Have fun & run.

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RM

June 10th, 2011
1:37 pm

Are the water stops on both sides of the road? I’ve been in some larger races before, but not this large and missed water stops because there was no warning and no time to get over to grab the water. That is why I like to carry my own in certain situations :D

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mattborenstein

June 10th, 2011
9:48 pm

@RM There is water all over the place – on both side’s of the road every mile or so. Big signs let you know where the water is as you approach. Matthew

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Sharon

June 11th, 2011
5:08 am

I ran BolderBoulder this year and while it has it’s good points it doesn’t compare to the Peachtree. It is definitely more laid back but the crowd support was minimal until we got near the stadium. That was the most disappointing part of the whole race. The lunches and the beer at the end were a great treat, Peachtree would do well to emulate that part. I’ll take the Peachtree over Bolder any day!

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RM

June 11th, 2011
11:32 am

Awesome thanks Matthew!

I did a 10k this morning and tried the gum thing – it worked!!! Thanks y’all!

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DHD

June 11th, 2011
4:33 pm

My worst run never happened. I am attempting to run in as many states as possible. After losing 110 pounds, I began 1 1/2 years ago running in events. I have done runs in 8 states so far. A couple of months ago, I signed up for a run in Opelika, AL on a Saturday morning. I left in PLENTY of time to make the drive from north of Atlanta. An 18 wheeler turned over on I-85 and spilled cooking oil all over the place and the road was closed. I was stuck in traffic and could find out what was happening because the cell towers were jammed. I never made it to the run. Wasted a Saturday and didn’t get my 9th state.

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KEW

June 11th, 2011
4:54 pm

DHD. You lost 110#! You have a goal to run in as many states as possible! You are a true winner in my book. Your Saturday wasn’t wasted because you inspired ME!

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CAS

June 11th, 2011
6:13 pm

I would not wear earphones, because I would miss my absolute favorite part of the PRR, which is the crowds, the bands, the street noise. I train in the deep woods on mountain trails, and one of the things I love about the PRR is the overwhelming cacophony of background noise, so different from the quiet woods I’m used to. I haven’t carried anything because I don’t like the distraction of stuff jiggling about as I run, and there are plenty of water stations. I have to stop and drink, because I am from a cool northerm mountain climate and I worry about heatstroke running in the south in July. I do wear my Garmin and try not to let it distract me as I run, but it helps me keep track of my time and pace.

Oh, and heartbreak hill? When you train at 10,000 feet elevation – that’s not a hill. I have yet to have either my lungs or my legs tell me that there are any hills on that course and I’ve run it several times.

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CAS

June 11th, 2011
6:19 pm

From my days as a ski bum, when the motto was “just because I sleep with you doesn’t mean I have to ski with you” – no, I don’t expect anyone I race with to stay with me and would not want to feel obligated to do so for someone slower than myself. I like to do training runs with other people, but for a race, no I don’t want the pressure of someone else’s pace and wouldn’t want to pressure someone else with mine.

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NLK

June 12th, 2011
7:41 am

Question to the women out there…
I hate hate hate when that little itty bitty area of your upper legs rub with your shorts and require you to keep adjusting. I’m looking for a great pair of shorts where I don’t have to deal with that. Can you help??

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RM

June 12th, 2011
10:25 pm

NLK, It might mean they are too big for you… I have some that got too big and started doing that, while the same exact shorts did not do that before I lost a few pounds. I prefer underarmour running shorts from all the ones I’ve tried so far.

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RSM

June 13th, 2011
10:01 am

My worst run? A number of years ago I was up early and jogging on a golf course in Hilton Head. A little fog, cool morning and I was thoroughly enjoying the run. Came across a putting green with a log on it. No trees anywhere and I was wondering “what idiot put a log on the putting green?” As I went to investigate and stepped over the log, the log opened it’s mouth on the other end and hissed, suddenly becoming a five foot alligator! Needless to say, I ran (flew?) the next couple of miles without looking back. A year later I heard a jogger was bit on the butt on a golf course in Hilton Head! There, but for the grace of God, could have been me! Worst run of my life.

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reebok

June 13th, 2011
11:05 am

the peachtree used to have beer at the finish…one per person…but a couple of my running friends don’t like beer, so i normally got 2-3…it was awesome…don’t know why they stopped that tradition…

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Mike Lum

June 13th, 2011
11:51 am

Food has improved after the Peachtree, over the past few years. Now there is free ice cream and energy bars. Matt, your post is long on memories and short on details. Runners “seemed to honor their correct group” hardly sounds like a study was done on the topic. The cheaters that jump in here in Atlanta are a problem, but only constitute a tiny percentage of the total. Two years ago the Peachtree start was spread out, with much success. If the 60,000 runners didn’t want to pick up numbers at the expo or pay the expensive shipping fee, numberless runners would happily take their place…part of the supply and demand you talk about.

I’m sure both races have their strengths and weaknesses. Peachtree gets so many novis/once-a-year runners/walkers (great for them, but it makes for a lousier race when they start up front and walk on the left). The last mile of the Peachtree used to flow through Piedmont Park’s one lane road. The trees and crowd were great, but the backup of runners weren’t. To each his own!

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AMC

June 13th, 2011
4:45 pm

I find Stride Gum to be the best running companion! Lasts thru my 3-4 mile treks, and then some. I can’t (or don’t like to) run without it. I’m taking Marta to the starting line, and Marta back up. Where does one put the Breeze card? I have a key keeper for my shoe, suppose I can stuff it in there?
I was thinking of taking my iPod, too, but I’m pretty nosey and will probably be more entertained by the crowds!

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Gen Neyland

June 13th, 2011
10:09 pm

I’ve experienced so many bad runs, none stand out except for two hard tumbles on trails I wish I had avoided. Man, those rocks don’t give and when you’re in your mid 50’s, they hurt. Happy to say I’m trying extra hard not to take a 3rd fall as I creep toward 60. Slow is good… Thank goodness for Aflac.

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Mike

June 14th, 2011
4:09 pm

I don’t have any friends who will be standing on the sidelines on July 4th, but I’m always glad to see Max Cleland out there cheering on the runners.

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Mike

June 14th, 2011
4:14 pm

The year the race ended at the Civic Center was the worst. Not only was the distance to the finish line closer to 6.5 miles, but turning off 10th street there was a hill, then getting to the water there was another hill, then getting your t-shirt was another hill.

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Reid in EAV

June 14th, 2011
4:42 pm

Yes indeed! Max is usually on the downhill between Lindbergh and Peachtree Battle. Making a mental note of that this time so I can say hi on the way.

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Reid in EAV

June 14th, 2011
4:43 pm

Actually I saw one once that made me both chuckle and dig in. “Pain is temporary. Race results are posted online FOREVER.”

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@ProLove360

June 14th, 2011
5:05 pm

“Signs” are why I run the Peachtree Road Race every year. There are not many places you can go in this world where complete strangers cheer you on to victory and support your goals of endurance. In my head, the Peachtree is the way life should be — it is 6.2 miles of “love thy neighbor.”

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Steven Ward

June 14th, 2011
6:37 pm

I have seen a lot of great signs in my 16 PRR endeavours. But the most motivating thing for me,is to see the patients from the Shepherd Spinal Center on Heartbreak Hill. That’s really let’s you know how Blessed you are.

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agree with sward above

June 14th, 2011
10:35 pm

The Shepherd Center will put a knot in your throat.I hope the uga baseball player will be there to watch this year.If so, He will get a Go Dawgs from this Gator.God bless that young man!

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Bryan B

June 14th, 2011
10:38 pm

Amen to that Steven. I run by the Shepherd Center patients every year and give them high fives and tell them thanks for coming out. It always reminds me how blessed I am to be able to run the Peachtree.

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Drew

June 15th, 2011
5:47 am

when I ran the Chicago Marathon my favorite were “run you bitches” and “you’re feet hurt cause you’re kicking so much ass”

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Gen Neyland

June 15th, 2011
6:13 am

In all races, I love the sign that says, ‘Start’. In a tough race, my second favorite sign is the one that says, ‘Finish’. When doing the PRR, my favorite sign post-race is the one that says, ‘Varsity’…

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25 Peachtrees in A Row

June 15th, 2011
6:15 am

My favorite: Show us Your Pits! All male runners response by lifting their arms showing sweaty stinky armpits.

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CurtO

June 15th, 2011
6:42 am

The best sign I ever saw was being held by a patient from the sheperd’s center (choking up thinking about it) that simply said “You can do it !”. I think it caused me to run the rest of the way up cardiac hill faster than i thought was possible.

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Lis

June 15th, 2011
7:08 am

At the GA Marathon this year I loved one I saw right outside Old 4th Ward: “That’s not sweat, that’s your fat cells crying.” The other fave was from a Tech student and it said something like “You are 74.846912% of the way there”.

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Louisville Dawg

June 15th, 2011
10:57 am

I once saw three little girls with signs,
1- “Go Mommy Go!”
2- “Run Mommy Run!”
3- “Breathe Mommy Breathe!”

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Deljah

June 15th, 2011
11:18 am

@ProLove360 – If you love the positivity, you should join dailymile.com. You could soon have lots of “friends” from all over who follow your running and other workouts and give lots of encouragement and motivation! I love it!

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Wendy

June 15th, 2011
11:22 am

“Kick Asphalt”
“It isn’t sweat. It’s liquid awesome.”

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E-Run

June 15th, 2011
12:48 pm

I miss the twins outside the church…they always inspired me in that first part of the race. They made me smile and smiles are a good push too.

After that, “free beer” makes a nice sign…

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Jeff

June 15th, 2011
1:55 pm

In another race, I forgot my pain when I was passed by a wheelchair racer on the downhill, then passed him back on on the uphill…

Chronic spitters are distracting on the course.

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DHD

June 15th, 2011
5:25 pm

Are there really “running gods?” Wow. Who knew?

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Carlton10k

June 15th, 2011
11:32 pm

I will be running my 19th Ptree in a row and always wave to the Shepherd Center patients!
This year is special because a friend of 20 yrs is now a patient and will watch the race from the Secret Garden located at the Center! He is from Penscola and didn’t even know about the race route.

Tim, I dedicate this year’s Peachtree Road Race to you!

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Gen Neyland

June 16th, 2011
6:32 am

My wife and I first volunteered a PRR when injury kept me from running. Up to that point, she would spectate and run the pick-up vehicle. After the volunteer experience together, she kept signing up to volunteer and now I look forward to seeing her at her spot on the course as I slog by. She can still spectate while volunteering and still runs the pick-up vehicle to boot…If you didn’t get in this year, try a volunteering experience. It’s alot of fun…

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Dchad404

June 17th, 2011
2:42 pm

I will be walking my first Ptree with the hopes and prayers that the UGA baseball player at Shepherd’s will one day be able do what we take for granted. I can’t wait!

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Kristen Lacy

June 17th, 2011
9:44 pm

Well my family and I (or at least my dad, two brothers, and I) have been running together ever since we were able to. Before the race we don’t really have any big tradition besides always riding the Marta there and sitting on the ground streching like everyone else once we’re there! But, on the otherhand, we do the same thing after the race is over with . We always walk to the Flying Biscuit Cafe and eat a HUGE breakfast in our sweaty clothes. Then we’ll go to my grandparents’ house and have a cook out for dinner after a verrrrrrryyyy long shower and nap! Our little family reunion every year is based around the Peachtree Roadrace! Sadly though this year we didn’t get in and are desperate! So for fathers day I wanted to take matters into my own hands and try and get us in. If anyone has ANY extra numbers they’d be willing to give up you can contact me at my email address kldocvet@aol.com.
Thanks!
Kristen Lacy

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Gen Neyland

June 17th, 2011
10:56 pm

I’ll grab refreshments at all races but usually only go out after the PRR. If you’ve never hit the Varsity post PRR, do so. There is a bunch of us there. It’s like a family reunion. Not a knock on the Waffle House, but I reserve that experience for other times…

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mattborenstein

June 18th, 2011
2:10 pm

Varsity post-race sounds great.

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2BT

June 18th, 2011
2:26 pm

A group of us always walk a few 100 yards from the park to a little shopping center village where there’s a restaurant called F.R.O.G.S (no idea what it stands for). Nothing like a pitcher of beer and an order of nachos to get us going!

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Red Lobster

June 18th, 2011
4:39 pm

We always crave Red Lobster because of their cheese biscuits!

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Jay

June 18th, 2011
8:30 pm

“Pass the weak, hurdle the dead”

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Clint

June 18th, 2011
9:28 pm

I pick up a dozen “FRESH HOT NOW” Krispy Kreme’s on the way home to share with the family. I am pretty sure the caloric intake is more than the calories burned during the PRR!!!

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BlahBlahBlah

June 19th, 2011
10:57 pm

Taco Mac, corner of 10th and Peachtree. Beer and wings for breakfast after the Peachtree = the only way to go.

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J.M.

June 19th, 2011
11:07 pm

Hey everyone — love the blogs on the AJC this summer, seeing the variety of answers from people about different running topics. I have two questions (for Matt or anyone else) –

First, where can I find a watch like Matt’s that shows calories burned? i’m kinda getting back into running after a few years away doing other things, and I’d like to get a watch to time myself… what are the best kinds (and/or most affordable) watches that maybe include stopwatch functions, a pedometer, and/or a calorie counter?

Second, what is the best website to find road races around metro Atlanta each year? I would like to do some this fall.

Finally, I’m up to a little over 2 miles at a time, about 3 or 4 times a week… the body is feeling good and i’m doing around 8:45-9:00 miles. What’s the best way to push through and break that 3-mile barrier, which I probably haven’t done competitively since high school 20 years ago? I don’t want to kill my body, I want to gradually work up to doing a 5-K, and I also want to keep my time up so I could finish in the 27-28 minute range when I finally DO race.

Thanks, any suggestions would be most appreciated…. oh, and after a run, I think any place with “comfort food” is a good reward, whether it’s beer and wings or Cracker Barrell or a good pizza place or a hearty meat-and-three.

Happy racing everyone!

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Marie

June 20th, 2011
12:19 pm

J.M. I have a Garmin 410 and I love it. It tracks milage, calories, splits, and keeps the history and i can view it on the website. It does have a stopwatch function and I am sure a bunch of other things that i don’t use. It does have a heart rate monitor if you buy the accessory, but i prefer to listen to my body myself rather than what some monitor is telling me.
The best way I know to push that 3 mile barrier is to just do it. Map it out and keep trying until you get there. It may take you a few tries before you actually get there, but it is mostly mental, and once you break it once you know you can do it anytime. Although some days will be easier than others.
Good luck!

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Ryno

June 20th, 2011
1:43 pm

@Matt – I have always liked plain Bagels after a race, but the V does sound good.
@J.M. – I use the Nike+ system which is cheaper than the GPS watches, but a little less accurate.

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RM

June 20th, 2011
5:04 pm

JM: A garmin watch has every function you’ll ever need – pace, distance, calories burned, heart rate etc. etc. I read reviews and ended up getting the forerunner 305. Check out their site and amazon.com reviews to figure out which one you would like the best.

I find most of my races on active.com. Also, Atlanta Track Club has an event calendar.

The rule of thumb for increases is 10% per week.

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Gen Neyland

June 21st, 2011
6:12 am

Great advice, Doctor. May I add the Road I.D. is a practical accessory should anything happen out there and Runner’s need to list all medications and put a contact number on the back of their bib come race day, just in case you need assistance…

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Kev

June 21st, 2011
1:19 pm

Beer, beer, and more beer. Followed by some smoked ribs, bratwurst, and a 24oz porterhouse

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SMB

June 21st, 2011
2:15 pm

I am a new runner who decided to run the PRR after watching my sister run it the past two years with me cheering her on. After the 2010 Race, I started jogging – even through the winter months – and when it came time to register for the PRR, we decided to do it as a group so that either we both got numbers or we didn’t. Luckily we got numbers! Now I am very excited to run the race with my sister, although a little nervous. I ran two 5K’s this spring, but 6.2 miles will be a first on July 4th. The issue is that we were placed in different corrals, but we want to run together.

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Ramona S

June 21st, 2011
2:36 pm

I was surprised that I was placed in “E” and not “G” or “H”. I really don’t like seeing someone from the last group up in my group, but I am not the kind of person to say anything to them.

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SMB

June 21st, 2011
2:44 pm

I am in W corral because this is my first 10K, although I have run a couple of 5K’s. I also want to jump into an earlier wave because I want to run with my sister who is traveling to Atlanta for the 3rd year in a row to run the PRR with me. She is in corral D because she finished the PRR last year in 56 minutes. I finished my 5K races in 31 minutes, so I think my time for the PRR will be much more worthy than the W wave I was placed in…I’m thinking more like N, O or P. Plus starting at 9am is not for me! I run at 6:30am and starting that late would suck. I think W is for the walkers.

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Burger and Brew

June 21st, 2011
2:46 pm

I was shocked to see I was placed in Coral A. My time from last year has been my best yet. However, I never thought it would get me in that wave. Good luck to all runners and remember to have fun.

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Danielle

June 21st, 2011
2:50 pm

I’m in corral M, and I’m happy with that. Last year, I did not train properly for the PRR and ended up walking most of it. So, I’m satisfied with my placement. This year, I have been training and hope to post a much better time for my personal goal and an earlier start time in 2012.

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sue

June 21st, 2011
2:50 pm

i was surprised to be in N, especially now knowing what time got in to N! this is my first PRR; i’m wondering if i posted my 5k time under 10k when i registered. i will definitely be starting in a later corral!

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Diana

June 21st, 2011
2:58 pm

I am a bit confused by the waves that some people say they’ve been placed in. There are start wave standards posted on the Peachtree road race website, but it seems that they’ve been changed without a new list being posted. My time shows up in Corral B and that is the corral I was place in. But a time of 1:00:33 should place you in Corral F according to these standards, not N. And from what SMB said, 56 minutes still gets you into D (that matches the standards posted). How can 4 minutes mean the difference between D and N?

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Parker

June 21st, 2011
3:08 pm

@Diana, you have to remember, those times only apply to those who actually used a timed-race or Peachtree Qualifier so they could be placed in higher start times. If you didn’t you were probably randomly assigned a number based on a number of things.

I had a qualifier time of 50:05 and was placed in Wave B, which makes sense according to the times. But again, if you didn’t register a previously timed race, then it won’t help you with where you start out.

But if you are in a lower number and wish you were in a higher wave, PLEASE DON’T! The race was actually manageable last year with congestion from this new wave process. If I am trying to maintain an 8:30 mile, I dont want to get trapped by a group of folks who have Wave P numbers and may be doing an 11 minute mile. Just sayin…

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Sondra

June 21st, 2011
3:11 pm

I am in C… based on my 1/2 mari PR I can see how I got placed there, but due to lull in training I don’t know if I will finish in under 54 minutes. I am glad I get to start a little earlier.

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Parker

June 21st, 2011
3:11 pm

But Diana, I do see your point about the hour logged time and being put in N. That doesn’t sound right. But it could’ve been a fluke somewhere in the crazy system they have in place. It happens…

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marty

June 21st, 2011
3:12 pm

Hey, i’m a new one to the peachtree and used my time from the chilly dawg 5k in athens. that was a fun race early in janurary.COOOL but i got my number and it don’t matter to me what start corral i got, its just great to be able to take part in this race and challenge yourself to DO IT!! i will hopefully make it across the finish line at piedmont park among 60,000 others like me, YEAHHHH have fun and be safe also!!!

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RM

June 21st, 2011
3:15 pm

I am thinking there are only a certain amount of people that can be in each corral. After “B” reaches capacity, where do you put the rest of the “B” people (for example)? … probably in a lower corral…

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Lauren

June 21st, 2011
3:24 pm

I was actually disappointed to be moved DOWN a time group this year,esp since my time last year was around the time I submitted previously :(

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Che

June 21st, 2011
3:59 pm

I laughed hysterically when I saw I’m in Corral X. I ran the Publix half this year in 1:48:51. I am going to meditate long and hard prior to the race, and do my best just to enjoy the experience.

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Craig

June 21st, 2011
4:31 pm

I thought the new way of being able to sign up as a group meant you would be placed in the same wave as everyone who signed up within your group. 4 of us signed up in a group and we all got put in different waves. None of us sent in a qualifying time. Was there a mistake made or did I misunderstand the reasoning behind signing up as a group?

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Marius Maximus

June 21st, 2011
4:35 pm

SMB, whomever was assigned to an earlier wave can join the person assigned to the later wave.

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Still waiting

June 21st, 2011
4:44 pm

I still haven’t gotten my email confirmation. According to the website, we were supposed to have them by June 20. Tick tock, Atlanta Track Club.

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Diana

June 21st, 2011
4:50 pm

@Craig. From what I understand, the idea between signing up as a group was just so you all would either get in the race or not get in. That way you wouldn’t end up in the race and want to run with 3 friends, but none of them got in. I don’t believe it had anything to do with start waves. You all can still run together, you’ll just have to run in the latest start wave that one of you was assigned to.

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agree

June 21st, 2011
5:04 pm

Just enjoy it.The Peachtree is not the time to worry about setting a new pr.I run all year and love it,But some people take this race way,way to serious.If no coins are coming your way from this race,RELAX!

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Angel

June 21st, 2011
5:53 pm

I got X and since im a walker, I guess it was fitting. It saddens me when I see people talk about those of us who are just starting out, trying to get fit, or maybe just venturing out and doing something on their bucket, get talked about so badly by ‘elitist’ runners who only view us as an obstacle. We are only trying to get to where you may already be. I hope once I become a true runner I don’t have the same attitude toward those who are working on their fitness and trying to experience things they never thought they’d accomplish.

I just started walking in February, completed my first 5k in March, and 3 5Ks and 1 7K later, I’m doing the PRR, my first 10K. I’ve lost 24lbs and luckily I have not let the running snobs discourage me.

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Debbie

June 21st, 2011
6:04 pm

The PRR is my first 10K and I’m doing it more for the experience than anything else. I’ve been running 5K’s for about a year and my submitted time of around 37 minutes put me into the K wave. Which now surprises me based on what I’m reading here. I’d rather be running with those who run at my pace and thought that was the purpose of the different corrals.

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raindawg722

June 21st, 2011
6:13 pm

I ran the PRR in 55:00 last year. This year, my wife agreed at the last minute to run the race with me. She didn’t have any qualifying times so she’s in group W although we ran 6 miles in a little over an hour last weekend. I had already planned on dropping back to run with her, but is there any way that she can move up her start wave assignment at this point?

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Yvonne Zusel

June 21st, 2011
7:15 pm

@Angel — I think it’s awesome that you’re running! I think people just get frustrated when they get a start time that’s waaaay slower than what they would normally run. Good luck to everyone!

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Craig

June 21st, 2011
7:44 pm

@Diana- thank you for the info!

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Diana

June 21st, 2011
7:54 pm

@Angel and @Debbie- I think it’s so great you’re running! If you’re out there doing it, you are a “real” or “true” runner, however fast or slow you’re going. It’s great you’re doing your first 10k. Peachtree is such a fun event. I hope you have a great time and don’t let anyone ruin it for you.

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Maj Parson

June 22nd, 2011
5:13 am

Just wanted to let everyone know that we are running a 10K out here at Camp Leatherneck, Afghanistan. Its not the PRR but it is the closest race I could find for this Marietta, Ga Native. Semper Fi

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ATLNick

June 22nd, 2011
6:15 am

@Maj Parson Thanks for your service! We are all thankful we have the freedom to run the PRR because of you and all the troops serving! Thanks and good luck in you 10K!

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Gen Neyland

June 22nd, 2011
6:16 am

If this is your first PRR you’ll see that by mile 1 to 2 it’s more an event more than a race for the majority. Most people get the jitters at their PRR1. You’ll snicker at yourself for having them. Guaranteed…

As for moving up Waves to run with friends or a sense of being jilted time-wise, may a pox set in to those that violate this code of ethics on Raceday…

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Old timer...

June 22nd, 2011
8:01 am

Ditto on the thank you for Maj Parson.

My first PRR was 1978 and I ran 30 in a row till 2009. I’m in again this year and I’ll be walking about half of it! (bad knees).

It’s been interesting to see how the race has changed over the years. In 1978 I believe there were about 10,000 and that was a huge increase from the year before. The ATC and the paper were all speculating if they could handle 10,000 runners!

I realize you have to have corrals for 60,000 people which is a reason I probably won’t do it every year going forward.

I don’t care for the finish line on 10th street, even further away from the Marta stations (and they quit having the bus shuttles). I enjoyed finishing IN THE PARK, but again I know you cannot do it that way with 60,000.

I don’t care for having to go downtown on Saturday the 2nd to get my numbers for me and my family but I sure as heck wasn’t going to pay the $7.50 a piece to have them mailed. I liked the EXPO when it was in Buckhead and the only way to get your number was through the mail.

Oh well….times change.

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@angel

June 22nd, 2011
8:17 am

Good for you!!! We all started at one time.Too bad some of the snobs forget that.Don’t worry about folks like that because they are everywhere you run.If you do 3 miles they will say they did 10,You ride a bike 20 miles,They rode one 40 miles…And it is not just the younger ones,19-30.I’m 52 and just started 2 years ago and will be running in D wave.Hang in there because you will also find some of us care more about people than a fast race time.

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notasnob

June 22nd, 2011
8:55 am

I think some just get frustrated by people locking hands and blocking others.And walkers that stay on the left side.If we ALL could be a little more courteous it would help but asking for that these days? Good luck!

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SMB

June 22nd, 2011
10:27 am

@ raindawg722: I’m in the same boat as you and from what I can tell, no changes besides your wife just starting with you in your wave group. I have seen mixed reviews for doing this, so I am going to play it by ear on race day. I just want to run and finish the race with my sister! There are some who take this WAY to seriously…

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RM

June 22nd, 2011
11:27 am

“I think some just get frustrated by people locking hands and blocking others.”

I’m cracking up! Yes, this is it exactly. I am all for walkers walking, just not blocking! Having to dodge people takes too much time and energy. I am usually a middle of the pack runner so I make sure to stay out of the way of people that are faster.

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AllisonC

June 22nd, 2011
12:54 pm

This is my first PRR. I didn’t run a qualifier race, but did a few 5Ks with times that should put me in around Corral N. I am in Y, so praying for a nice “cool” morning that holds til past 9am! HA. Can’t wait, should be fun, and I am running “solo”. I promise not to hold anyone’s hands (how can you do that and run anyway?). Good Luck everyone, lets have some fun.

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Colleen

June 22nd, 2011
3:11 pm

I got in The very last corral . . very disappointed … I hope Peachtree has a nice prize for us! If it’s not fun, it will be my last Peachtree & I have done enough to know its better to be in the front. It’s cooler, Porta potties have paper, fewer paper cups to step over, more bystanders, more giveaways to front runners & better chance of getting the right size t-shirt. It might even be hard to be present @ the airlline trip giveaway with a start time of 9:05 –unless Peachtree didn’t put any gray numbers in the later corrals. Oh well, live & learn . . . maybe the Braves game & fireworks will be the highlight of this trip to Atlanta rather than the road race.

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Gen Neyland

June 23rd, 2011
6:04 am

Recalling my first PRR back in the day of pre-timimg chip, I put the emphasis on the RACE part, missing out on watching the people lining the street who were watching us. If you’re a newbie to the PRR, there’s nothing like your first one. Even with the qualifying time scale, there will be a mass of sloggers ahead of you out for a Sunday stroll. Take it all in and don’t fret. Good luck to all…

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Sharon

June 23rd, 2011
6:30 am

This is my first Peachtree Road Race. I’m in “R”, group. Figured,I would have been placed, in one of the last groups. Was very surprised.

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Robin the newbie

June 23rd, 2011
7:17 am

I’m excited about my first PRR but I don’t see a lot of walkers commenting. I walking it mostly will run when I can. Do people really walk the PRR? Looking to enjoy this!!

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First Timer Mark

June 23rd, 2011
7:54 am

I’m a first timer and 51 years old. I’ll be walking a large portion as well, but hope to finish strong and running.

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shane

June 23rd, 2011
9:15 am

The right lane is dedicated to walkers while the left lane is for joggers/runners, so as long as you stay in the right lane you could walk the whole way.

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Drew

June 23rd, 2011
9:22 am

This will be my 8th Peachtree, The expo is worth going to, there’s tons of fitness gear and giveaways, not to mention a great place to get all the information possible related to the Peachtree and running. I met Kyle O’Day from Continuum Sports there who re-engineered how I run and cured shin splints. As for the best part of the race it has to be the start line, there’s a 5 story flag, the national anthem and a military fly by. The best kept secret of the Peachtree is to submit a qualifying time.

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Robin the newbie

June 23rd, 2011
9:24 am

Thanks for the comments on the walkers! I feel betta’ already!

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Michael

June 23rd, 2011
9:25 am

Is there a bag check at the start of the race?

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Joan Meyer

June 23rd, 2011
9:26 am

This will be my first 10k, and since I’m traveling from Upstate NY, I haven’t had much opportunity to acclimate to the hot, humid weather that’s expected at the PRR every year. I’m also dealing with a rehabbing hamstring injury, so I already know I’ll be run/walking the PRR at best (hopefully running more than walking, but we’ll see). I just want to enjoy the experience, feel my body’s strength and GET MY T-SHIRT! lol

I already have fun built in because I’ll be staying with a dear friend whom I haven’t seen in 25 years and who will be cheering me on! :)

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Robert

June 23rd, 2011
11:28 am

I was in “T” last year and worked hard to qualify for “D” this year. I would rather not see people sneak up to earlier waves.

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Derek

June 23rd, 2011
11:31 am

This being my first Peachtree Road Race, I didn’t know anything about start waves when I registered for the lottery. I’m in the last wave-Y. I ran a 5K in 23 minutes about a month ago and plan on finishing the PRR in around 50 minutes. Is my slow start wave going to be a problem? With there be other runners in the wave? Can I just start at the front of my wave and bypass all the walkers holding hands? Etc?

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Chloe

June 23rd, 2011
1:28 pm

Last year was my first race, so I remember in detail everything. We went to the expo on a Sat. and it was very crowded. There were some athletic gear, new products demonstration and some freebies. I think most of them were overpriced. Buy your MARTA tickets here, it’ll be a long ticket line on race day. I tried running on the race, but being on the M start time, it was very hard due to overcrowding. People don’t walk on the left, they walk everywhere.. so zigzagging around, I think I ran almost an additional kilometer total. Plenty of water around, street music, cheers and some free beer (they asked for donation, though)… it was a lot of fun. When you cross the finish line, make sure to smile ’cause they take a pic of you that you can watch online. Happy running!

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Colleen

June 23rd, 2011
5:17 pm

Derek- you have a great time. Try to get seeded next year. You can start @ the beginning of your corral, but you are still behind 55,000 people! I think you will be running around people most of the race. There will be other runners in the corral, but they will have the same problem. The saddest thing is missing the National Anthem–maybe we can watch it on TV & then head to the race.

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Amanda

June 23rd, 2011
7:16 pm

Thanks for the advice about ipods. I have a habit of always running with mine, and didn’t think twice about bringing it with me for the PRR. But I think I won’t! I’m just going to enjoy the experience instead.

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BlahBlahBlah

June 23rd, 2011
7:20 pm

If she’s in W, you move back to W. Period. Anything else = a selfish jackass move.

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BlahBlahBlah

June 23rd, 2011
7:22 pm

SMB – you want to finish it with her? You start with her, so she’s not clogging up faster runners. It’s called common courtesy.

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Dennis Murray

June 23rd, 2011
9:18 pm

I stick with my normal program – especially for a distance like a 5k or 10k. Run a half marathon and doing 6 miles is common.

I’ve found avoiding anything except maybe sport beans or a banana for two hours before running is pod enough to get me through. Eat and run too quickly and you will be guaranteed to have stomach cramping.

Night before the peachtree I’ll eat a normal dinner (lean protein, salad and some carbs) and a light breakfast very early race day but otherwise just sone fluids.

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SusieQT

June 23rd, 2011
9:27 pm

Night before: a trip to Figo or healthy homemade lasagna (whole wheat noodles, lean meat, and low fat cheeses) and lots of H2O.

Morning of: coffee, powerade, a protein bar, and jelly belly sports beans.

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Cvetelina

June 23rd, 2011
10:08 pm

Morning of (daily run or race) my staple is soy (or plain nonfat/lowfat yogurt) oatmeal or museli, a piece of fruit such as banana, apple, peach or berries, almonds/walnuts and lots of water. Usually no coffee before the run, but definitely after. I run about an hour or longer after I eat.
For the night before a race I don’t have a set meal, but I don’t overload on carbs. Something that has both carbs and lots of protein – a combination of two or more of these: brown/black rice, beans, sweet potatoes, quinoa, whole wheat pasta, veggies… Usually no alcohol the night before, and if I want to do really well, no alcohol at least the week before, and lots of water!

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PJ

June 23rd, 2011
10:55 pm

Pasta (either gnocchi or tortetlini w/ light sauce — no cheese) and bread the night before (no salad); if it is 10K+ I try to make sure I drink at least 6 bottle waters. The morning of, if it is just a 5K I have a plain toasted bagel with a little cinnamon and if it is a 10K+ I have a little p-nut butter on it. I have to eat about 1 – 1 1/2 hours before the run — any earlier and I feel depleted any later and I cramp up. I agree though, even though I do this ritual, I still have good runs and bad runs but if I stray from this routine, I can almost guarantee a bad run ha! After the run (10K or more) I eat whatever the heck I want — usually mexican food or pizza and ice cream :-)

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BlahBlahBlah

June 24th, 2011
6:35 am

It’s only a 10k, so worrying about a “night before meal” is a little nuts. As long as you’re not pounding down Mexican food (plus margaritas and cervezas) or a huge brownie sundae for dessert, you’re likely fine. If it’s a half marathon, I’m a little more careful.

In the morning? Cup of coffee, 2 pop tarts, bottle of Gatorade, drop a bomb in the port-o-john, and I’m ready to roll.

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BlahBlahBlah

June 24th, 2011
6:40 am

Last year my time was good enough for B. This year the same time dropped me to C. I think the ability to register 5k times has made getting into early corrals tougher. If everything goes well I will post a time that gets me back into B next year. Ultimate goal would be to get in A. I loved the new setup last year. Much smoother.

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Jason MacDonald

June 24th, 2011
6:48 am

Half a bagel two hours before and half a Power Bar 30 minutes prior to the start. Lots of water (duh) and maybe a cup of tea with that bagel. Night before – for smaller distances it doesn’t really matter as long as it’s not a cheesy, gooey mess.
Post race? Why wait in line at Ria’s when Stone Soup Kitchen is right around the corner and has the best tasting vegan, gluten free blueberry pancakes? And awesome regular pancakes. And, they are runner friendly. (full disclosure: I am co-owner). Mention “neighborhood discount” and get 10% off you bill. Or tell them Jason sent you.
Have a great Peachtree!

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Liz

June 24th, 2011
8:16 am

Quite honestly, I don’t worry about what I eat the night before the race. I’ve gone out for margaritas and tacos the night before and felt totally fine the next morning!

I eat oatmeal every morning and drink around 100oz of water a day. I’ve found that my oatmeal routine plays the biggest role in keeping my stomach “happy”. (I didn’t eat oatmeal for 2 weeks leading up to a race and boy did it show — VERY unhappy stomach!)

The morning of the race I eat a banana, drink black coffee and water. (For the half marathon I had a few bites of a CLIF bar, too.) And, of course, you have to poop. :)

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Alan B

June 24th, 2011
8:18 am

I like to eat pizza the night before with a lot of good toppings. Stay away from caffeine a day or 2 before to help with hydration. Lots of water a few days before. The morning of I like a little bit of everything but small portions – cereal, toast, banana and some orange juice. Not as much liquids the morning of the race. After the race I look forward to a nice cold Coca-Cola.

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JARED

June 24th, 2011
9:45 am

I like to take a late night trip to Krystal before a race. Usually around 3am I will go and order 4 Krystal chicks(plain) 6 chili cheese pups, 4 corn dogs, a steamer, 10 wings,chili cheese fries, and a BA burger. I always ask for extra ranch and ketchup. mmm mmm good!

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Robert the Yellow Jacket

June 24th, 2011
9:55 am

I drank three beers at Ruperts the night before a race and everyone including your grandmother passed me the next day at Chastain Park. I believe that’s called a turning point moment.
I got serious as a result and peaked 5 years later at 17:53 and 38:04 though I could have beaten those times on some of the downhill courses that exist to pretend we are better than we are.
I only drank orange juice, soft drinks, or Gatoraid on race day and never anything solid.
A banana pre-race? Better get ready to wait in line for one of the stink tanks. I use them but not when I have a choice.

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Vegetard

June 24th, 2011
10:24 am

Whole grains, fruits and vegetables are always good choices. Many fruits and veggies contain much more potassium than bananas. Lots of water and plant based starches should work. However, that’s just one person’s opinion. Best of luck to all you participants!

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mattborenstein

June 24th, 2011
1:50 pm

For those asking, plenty of people will be walking. You get more time to enjoy the trip down Peachtree. There is no gear check. And @Drew, what’s the cure to your shin splints? Right now, all I have come up with is to take two Advil before I run.

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sansho1

June 25th, 2011
10:05 am

“There are some who take this WAY to (sic) seriously…”

Want to know how to tell who takes it seriously? Hint — the earlier you start, the more seriously those around you are taking it. Your sister, with her number in the 8s or 9s, is the one everyone will look at and think “she’s the one I’ll be tripping over because she didn’t start with her group.” If you want to run with her, you drop back.

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Debbie

June 25th, 2011
8:43 pm

Usually some pasta and protein the night before and then a bagel with peanut butter and banana the morning of, at least 2 hours ahead of start time. Only for one 5K did I drink alcohol the night before (at a Christmas party), and at my 5K the next morning I broke my PR. Go figure!

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Sanshogetoveryourself

June 26th, 2011
3:10 am

Sansho1, did you really say that? And did you really just use “sic” to quote someone else pointing out the valid point that some people take this too seriously? They do. Get a life.

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Sanshogetoveryourself

June 26th, 2011
3:13 am

And by the way, if you want to move your running partner up into another group, your only shot is to sneak past the people manning that particular time group. Try and walk in with a big group or something.

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sansho1

June 26th, 2011
7:06 am

If you don’t get it, I can’t explain it to you. And yet I feel compelled to try. You’ll never convince someone who’s set a goal and trained hard to achieve it to not take it seriously. If you’re there for a different purpose, that’s fine, too. I don’t run for time either, but I do my best to stay out of the way of those who do. Don’t jump groups, and walkers to the right — it’s really that simple. Have fun (and have fun lecturing people about having fun, I guess).

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Gen Neyland

June 26th, 2011
11:28 am

‘What do you eat before you run’ is one of those questions that go down as to each their own. Only thing in regards to the PRR is that if your start wave is almost into the next morning, do eat something…and NO sugar packed energy drinks
pre-race..!

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Runningal

June 26th, 2011
5:20 pm

I’d like to have my family set up a tent in the park and wait for my finish. How feasible is it to BBQ in the park after the race? What time should i expect to have to set up?

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Bacchus

June 27th, 2011
8:33 am

Water all day the day before, Spaghetti with meat sauce the night before, and 8 hours of sleep.

Morning of: 2 pieces of buttered wheat toast with jam or with a fried egg on top, some juice, a banana, and more water. Of course do this a couple hours before and try to “go” before leaving the house, or else you’ll be in line with the rest of the runners waiting to carpet-bomb the outhouses.

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james

June 27th, 2011
9:00 am

I have run 2 marathons and a 25K within the past nine months. My first marathon went well, but I was hampered by severe cramps and was slowed to a walk as I finished up my 2nd marathon and my 25K. In both instances I fear this had a lot to do with poor hydration and maybe a deficiency of other needed nutrients. Any marathoners out there with thoughts on foods and amount of hydration leading up to the 26.2? What should the duration be?

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JV

June 27th, 2011
9:28 am

For a 10k it really doesn’t matter what you eat the night before. The night before i ran my 10k PR, I had a foot long publix sub, a Dr pepper, and a king size snickers. I ran a 38:20 the next morning. Just eat a little bit of something the morning of. There’s plenty of time from when you eat breakfast to when the race starts for your stomach to settle.

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Marathon Man

June 27th, 2011
9:48 am

On race day I always stop by Krystal — 4 cheese Krystals, a chili and large fries fuels me up real good.

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haywoodjablowmee

June 28th, 2011
2:40 pm

I like to cram 3 or 4 bananas up my 2 hole this way I get as much potassium as humanly possible. After that I like to do a couple snooters for energy..After the race I like to hit the all u can eat Shoney’s Buffett. I get the best food in town and all my friends are there!

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DHD

June 28th, 2011
6:17 pm

Gen Neyland

June 29th, 2011
5:47 am

The word is motivation. It originates from sources internal and/or external. From personal causes to a shared commitment.

The ‘Why’ I run is always evolving, at least, it does for me.
The ‘Who’ is a list of those I’ve known and loved, and thousands I’ll never meet. When I hit a rough patch, I sometimes think of those that jumped on
D-Day or those that ran up a beach on that day’s morning light, or those that pack 80+ lbs of hardware in 100+ degrees of desert heat. Motivation is always there, just gotta find it…

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sladersaan

June 29th, 2011
7:46 am

God blessed me with a gift of endurance, speed and love for the sport. I run for Him. It is a talent I should not bury. I will again run with the top seeded runners and am thankful for the ability to do so.

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Greg

June 29th, 2011
8:01 am

I run for the challenge and the competition. I run for the health benefits and the “runner’s high.”

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Gen Neyland

June 29th, 2011
9:20 pm

sladersaan : You could find a cause and a purpose that benefits those that don’t have your natural ability. There are tons of runs that need your spirit and talents. I hope you persue some and if you already have, a tip of the cap…

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Oraclejacket

June 29th, 2011
9:38 pm

I enjoy the 3 downhill miles before Peachtree Battle. The terrain is in your favor, so you can interact with the crowd – give high fives to little kids along the sidewalk, talk with other runners, grab a doughnut if Publix is passing them out, etc.

Also, the walkers and people who randomly stop running when they are right in front of you don’t get started in a big way until after Peachtree Battle.

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Dee

June 29th, 2011
10:07 pm

Agreed! The Finish!

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mattborenstein

June 29th, 2011
10:21 pm

The downhill is certainly nice (and gives you a solid first 5K), but then the course turns mean pretty quick.

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PJ

June 29th, 2011
10:43 pm

The finish and just all the energy of all the people who came out so early just to cheer people on.

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Debbie

June 30th, 2011
5:17 am

Yes, definitely the FINISH! The PRR will be my first 10K and my only goal is to finish. I’ve been running a year and in the 5K’s I’ve run, the Finish is definitely the best part. The feeling of accomplishment it brings is why I run races.

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Alan B

June 30th, 2011
6:02 am

The start of the race at Lennox; the large American flag flying, the helicopters flying above, the National Anthem and prayer, being with my family, feeling the inexplicable excitement in the air, and getting fired up thinking about our country and all the freedoms we have in our lives. That is what gets me going!!

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RM

June 30th, 2011
8:55 am

I don’t know yet! I’ll let you know afterwards! HA!

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troy

June 30th, 2011
10:28 am

Definately the start. Seeing the jostling sea of humanity, popping up and down like a sheet in the wind, is a unique sight. The anticipation, the excitement, and the comraderie you feel with your fellow runners embarking on Atlanta’s finest tradition is beyond compare.

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Cardiac is too hyped

June 30th, 2011
11:03 am

I love the downhill portion too and had I known about it sooner I would not have let cardiac hill scare me away from PRR the first two years I received numbers and a few years before that too. You gain so much momentum from coming down that hill that you are half way up cardiac before you even realize you are now running up hill. The fisnish gets deceiving trying to figure out how far away that overhead banner is.

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BlahBlahBlah

June 30th, 2011
12:05 pm

Hills are delicious. Blasting past a bunch of folks who gassed out on Cardiac = huge rush of adrenaline. It justifies all the training.

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BlahBlahBlah

June 30th, 2011
12:07 pm

On the other hand, I do sorta agree with those who say “the start”. When my wave begins the march to the start line it’s an awesome feeling.

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ZACK

June 30th, 2011
2:14 pm

The whole race is an amazing experience, but the best park is every single person on the sides cheering you on. Could be a small child, a hot babe, or the priest throwing holy water on you.

THANKS to all that support!!!

See yah Monday!

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mattborenstein

June 30th, 2011
2:44 pm

@BlahBlahBlah I like that. As I run up those the hill, I will try to remember my training and use it as an adrenaline rush.

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RM

June 30th, 2011
7:30 pm

Woohoo! TX represents!!

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Debbie

June 30th, 2011
8:07 pm

First timer and can’t wait!

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Gen Neyland

June 30th, 2011
8:22 pm

First timers : I hope the experience of running with 59,999 like minds is one you’ll recall fondly. May you find another piece to your personal puzzle along the way, and thank a Volunteer or two…Good luck to all and have a good time.

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PRR Vet

June 30th, 2011
9:27 pm

This will be # 31 for me. Looking forward to it like it’s my first! Good luck to all.

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Paul C.

June 30th, 2011
10:25 pm

I am originally from Las Vegas so in a way Nevada is represented.

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CPC

June 30th, 2011
11:22 pm

First time. Wave X but super excited…recently discovered the power of running.

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Oreo Racers

July 1st, 2011
12:20 am

Shout out to the Medical Team!!

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DHD

July 1st, 2011
5:27 am

Running past the Shepherd Center and being thankful that I can run and thankful for the work they do there. God bless everyone of you who cheer us as we go by!!

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RM

July 1st, 2011
9:26 am

That is awesome!

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Sharon

July 1st, 2011
11:51 am

Looking forwards to my first PRR. Was surprised to be placed in the R Wave. One of the Doctor’s I work for. He and his fanmily are starting in the W Wave. I’m sure,I will see them, blast, right, by me.

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Sharron Bray Reeves

July 1st, 2011
12:00 pm

Congrats to you Coach Thorn from me and on behalf of my late husband Freddy Reeves, Headland High School class of 1968. He would be cheering for you all the way. This will be my 3rd Peachtree and I hope to keep on each year.

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DenDen

July 1st, 2011
12:07 pm

He was our football team coach in the late sixties and early seventies at Headland High School in East Point and was my phys ed teacher. Go Coach Thorn!

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Sharon

July 1st, 2011
2:31 pm

As a former soldier and a mother of Purple Heart recipient – the display will mean a great deal to me and I will run to honor my son, SPC James Price and for those who can’t run anymore.

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willoughby

July 1st, 2011
3:28 pm

my first run even though i was born and raised in Decatur! the last year and a half i’ve been working on my health and July 4th this race will be a goal met. plan on walking/running and just enjoying all that this huge race has to offer. to be a part of this day and event in my home town will be awesome.
see ya on the road!

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Judy Brock Ramsey

July 1st, 2011
6:29 pm

This will be my 9th Peachtree. I graduated HHS in 1972. Hope to see you on the 4th. You are awesome.

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Walter Little, Jr.

July 1st, 2011
8:13 pm

This will be my first Peachtree and I’m working as a communicator with the other Amateur Radio operators. I’m looking forward to being at the finish line in Piedmont Park and get to cheer the runners on!

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Annie

July 1st, 2011
8:34 pm

I run for health benefits and FUN!!!!

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PJ

July 1st, 2011
9:39 pm

Can’t believe it is already here. I think it is going to be a hot one this year. Doing my last 5K run in the a.m. then eating 2nd breakfast and heading to the expo to get my # and look around. Maggiano’s Sunday for carbo loading :-) Can’t wait, this will be my 4th one, my hubby’s 3rd and my son’s 1st :-)

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Gen Neyland

July 1st, 2011
10:25 pm

A race is a race, so I’m stepping out on a limb and saying Jimmie Johnson repays Junior and pushes him to a win at Daytona…There’s a part of me that wishes I were with you all in this year’s PRR but my bride and I decided to take 2011 and spend it with family (grandchildren mostly) away from the race…I wish you all the best come 04JUL. Have a great time and hoopefully we’ll meet up at the U.S. 10K Classic on Labor Day…

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John

July 1st, 2011
10:27 pm

I have a 5 mile run slated for Saturday morning, then head to expo to pick up my race packet, followed by a volunteer shift with the Atlanta Track Club meeting elite runners at the airport. Then it’s my pre-race dinner with friends on Saturday night. Sunday is a shift as a volunteer at the Georgia Aquarium and then home to relax until 5am on Monday. By 9am Monday morning I plan to be at Joe’s on Juniper getting ready to celebrate with my running friends. What a great weekend!!

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Capt. Ewing

July 2nd, 2011
9:30 am

I run for all those running the Peachtree in the sand. Believe me they would rather be running here with us. Fly, Fight, Win!

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Darla

July 2nd, 2011
1:46 pm

Congratulations to my favorite runners–Melissa (running for the first time–following in the footsteps of her Daddy who ran about 10 of the early races), Jill (2nd time runner), and Lauren and Derrick. Have a great run. See you at the finish line!

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DHD

July 2nd, 2011
4:03 pm

Less than an hour is the goal. Let’s do it!!

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Luli Alonso

July 2nd, 2011
10:22 pm

What’s the best part? Well, this is my first race… ever. I’d have to say winning the lottery and securing a spot for the race has been the best part so far.

This is a race I’ve been wanting to do since I moved to Atlanta over six years ago. The extra 85 lbs I was carrying at the time prevented me from even considering it. After two years of nothing but hard work and healthy eats, here I am ready to give it all I’ve got!

Come Monday morning, there’s no doubt my favorite part will then be crossing the start, then “running” with 59,999 of my fellow runners and ultimately crossing the finish line. Good luck everyone!

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Thomas Akins

July 2nd, 2011
10:32 pm

Congrats, Coach Thorn. This will be by 26th, I figure if you can do it, I should be able to make it. I graduated in 1969 from HHS, and still remember our 8th grade health class and the 4 X 440’s we had to run for warm up at track practice! Since I am also in Tyrone, I sometimes see you out pounding the pavement.

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Thomas Akins

July 2nd, 2011
10:35 pm

Sorry, “my 26th!”

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Johnny Robinson

July 3rd, 2011
6:26 am

Congratulations, Coach Thorn.

Your achievment is very inspiring. I admire your dedication and persistence.

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Peachtree John

July 3rd, 2011
10:36 am

Coach, you are an inspiration. That smile will come across your face and you will try to downplay the effort, but all the time knowing you are pleasing God with your determination. You have influenced many through coaching and through life. Carry on young man.

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Ross

July 3rd, 2011
11:36 am

The world’s greatest single gathering of narcissists at one time. Running for health, in choking car fumes.

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Jeff

July 3rd, 2011
11:47 am

While Ross sits at home, absorbed in his own inflated sense of self-importance….on second thought, come join us Ross, you’d fit right in!

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Chuck

July 3rd, 2011
12:03 pm

Class of 1986 at CHCS. He was our High School Football and Track coach. He is a wonderful coach and man. I learned many things about life through him. Good Luck Coach, Hope to see you at the finish line.

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Gary W.

July 3rd, 2011
3:01 pm

First PRR race on Monday…can’t wait. In the E wave, but I have never ran 6.2 miles, so I will get run over by a few runners. No worries…my wife will be watching, so I am motivated to finish!!!

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Gen Neyland

July 3rd, 2011
9:11 pm

Oh Ross, Ross, Ross…. Many of us run far and away from city streets but those that do run city streets are 10x’s better off than the sit-at-homers. May the participants have a blast tomorrow morning. You’ll all be on my mind when I awake…

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Dan

July 4th, 2011
12:37 am

http://mycharitywater.org/peachtree

Here’s a Peachtree story worth publishing.

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jimbo

July 4th, 2011
7:12 am

11alive coverage was HORRIBLE!

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Joseph

July 4th, 2011
7:14 am

Joseph

July 4th, 2011
7:15 am

Mike L.

July 4th, 2011
7:17 am

Congratulations Krige.

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Sasha

July 4th, 2011
7:23 am

I really enjoyed the TV coverage from 11 alive. Thank you.

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Ginny

July 4th, 2011
7:27 am

Channel 11’s shakey cam from the truck got me seasick.

Show the locals, not the Kenyans.

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Olivia

July 4th, 2011
7:28 am

Great job, 11 alive!!

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George washington

July 4th, 2011
7:31 am

Special shout out to the dunkin donuts officer that was instumental in keeping line jumpers out of the race. His rapid assessment of the alphabet is highly commendable.

Dunkin donut krullers are calling you name Officer Marta dude!

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Jackson

July 4th, 2011
7:33 am

11 alive did a great job of following the lead runners who, indeed, were KENYANS.

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Allison Garlingo

July 4th, 2011
7:33 am

These shirts are awful. What happened to the beautifully designed, pretty shirts we had years ago. Why do we always have to have that awful white-background shirt. Come on, Peachtree Road Race controllers, it’s sad to see how disappointed people are when they get their shirts. Bring back the fun shirts that will put smiles on people’s faces. No wonder so few people actually wear those shirts.

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Astrid G.

July 4th, 2011
7:36 am

Ugly, ugly, ugly. “My teacher told us we didn’t need peach”. Peach is the point!

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Chaps

July 4th, 2011
7:40 am

Good thing she can draw as she can barely write a complete sentence.

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Happy 4th

July 4th, 2011
7:49 am

Ugly!!!!!! Who picks the winners?

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Doug

July 4th, 2011
7:52 am

What is that supposed to be? What makes it Atlanta?

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Well

July 4th, 2011
7:53 am

Great Job – and the peach – - is in – - PEACHtree !!!!

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THE GHOST OF UGA V11

July 4th, 2011
8:02 am

TO ALL YOU FREAKING NEGATIVE PEOPLE OUT THERE YOU ARE SCUM BAGS OF THE EART. YOU DONT CARE ABOUT ART AND THATS WHY YOU DON’T HAVE ANY FUNDING FOR THE ARTS ANYWAY. SO GET A LIFE YOU FREAKING IDIOTS.

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Great

July 4th, 2011
8:04 am

I think it looks great and all the people who said it was ugly probbaly couldn’t do any better!

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Jake

July 4th, 2011
8:05 am

Three months to make that? Still beats the Izzy Mascot, though.

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Dave

July 4th, 2011
8:06 am

If that is what is coming out of Arts, it is time to cut all funding for Arts.

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Disappointed Runner

July 4th, 2011
8:13 am

I agree with Allison. These shirts always are so ugly that hardly anyone wears them. The only reason people get the shirt is because it symbolizes completion of the race. The Peachtree committee can devise something else to symbolize completion — maybe a big, gold-laminated rimmed button or some other symbol. And maybe the entry fee would be more reasonable. Come on, Peachtree Road controllers, help us.

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Shirt is a Bomb!

July 4th, 2011
8:18 am

Jessica Ferguson shouldn’t count on having a career in art. I’ve been an art arficiando for decades, and my unborn child could do better than that. We probably would have saved money and everyone’s time by going to a kindergarten.

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kma

July 4th, 2011
8:19 am

Ginny, the “locals” didn’t finish first. Dumba**.

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Shar

July 4th, 2011
8:20 am

You watched extended video of people running down the street?

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Road Scholar

July 4th, 2011
8:21 am

Jessica, congratulations! For the negative posters here, where is your design, since you imply you can do better? Oh, didn’t do one…..

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Joe

July 4th, 2011
8:34 am

This T-shirt design is terrbile. All the ones that have been produced by the kids at UWG have been terrible. If you’re going to let art students enter, why not ask a real art school like SCAD?

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H4oJ

July 4th, 2011
8:36 am

I think the contest controllers should show all the design submissions, and let the registered runners decide the winner through voting. After all, they will be the recipients who earned it. What anyone else says is irrelevant. everyone is entitled to an opinion, but only the runners should have a say. There can be a “people’s choice” winner just for stating popularity, but the runners decide the shirts that gets produced. That will end all whining and negativity, or render it pointless.

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KImberly

July 4th, 2011
8:38 am

Great design! I love how you incorporate the peach into the “C!” Very creative and different for a change!

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linda

July 4th, 2011
8:41 am

Tool? Isnt’ that supposed to be toll?

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Dave

July 4th, 2011
8:42 am

H3oJ,
You are right, the registered runners should be allowed to vote.

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lee wilder

July 4th, 2011
8:43 am

I am always amazed at how crass and mean posters can be. Whatever happened to manners?
Congratulations, Jessica — you should be proud. Good luck with your future projects.

And clean up your act, nasty posters. Keep your rude comments to yourself.

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Ken Yan

July 4th, 2011
8:45 am

Randall Guyton finished 3rd this year. Congratulations Randall and happy late birthday!

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Neal Grizzard

July 4th, 2011
8:46 am

Congratulations Jessica! I don’t understand the negative comments since it is obvious they didn’t even participate in the 10K (or they wouldn’t be on the internet during the race). And since UWG always has a presence at the Peachtree, I think there must be a wonderful program of study at UWG. Also, everyone had a chance to vote on the designs and it won, so that is an accomplishment in itself. Be proud of your accomplishment!

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jujubeed

July 4th, 2011
8:55 am

To Dave…registered runners and anyone else out there had a chance to vote! I don’t really like the shirt but all the hating on the designer is just plain RUDE. The only year I ran the shirt was gray and I would have preferred white…so it just means you can never please all the people. I think it is great that a college student won! If you finished the race and got the shirt be happy with that!!!!!!!!!!

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Carol

July 4th, 2011
8:56 am

yes linda it should be toll. I thought the same thing.

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Sandra in Atlanta

July 4th, 2011
8:58 am

I LOVE IT! LOVE IT! LOVE IT!

Congratulations Jessica. The design is different from the others in that it doesn’t have the commercially perfect look. Your choice of colors for “Peachtree” and the incorporation of a peach in the letter “C” show your creativity. It is very artistic.

I loved it so much I voted for it. GOOD JOB!

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mom3boys

July 4th, 2011
9:02 am

Dear AJC,
I am a language arts teacher. I will be happy to edit your paper for a small fee. As I tell my students, proofread, proofread, proofread!

Your friend,
Mom

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Jim Swilley

July 4th, 2011
9:02 am

Tool? My wife and I make a daily game of finding at least 2 typos in ajc.com articles. We are rarely disappointed.

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David Granger

July 4th, 2011
9:03 am

And yet again, the design I liked least is the one chosen. Congratulations to Jessica, though…she obviously designed a shirt that most people preferred.

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Nate

July 4th, 2011
9:07 am

Lets all be jerks and point out flaws. and go! Great job folks, you really proved your worth

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Jetdawg

July 4th, 2011
9:07 am

How rude can some of you be? It’s real easy to be an A**hole behind a computer screen isn’t it? You’re probably the same type of jackwagon who won’t debate anything at an event such as a PTA meeting, but will send a dirty email about every choice to the PTA president. I’m a teacher in the fine arts (music) and I appreciate her deign and all of those who put forth their efforts and talents for the shirts. *I also happen to be from Kennesaw

If you dont like the finalist shirts, direct your thoughts to the board who selects the finalists shirts. Hundreds of shirt designs were turned in a they select the finalists. Each person/artist is trying to obviously create a unique and different design for their submission.

Way to go Jessica! For the haters – I hope that if you are parents, you conduct yourself differently in public and in front of your children. Try being a little more thoughtful even if bringing out your inner a**hole from behind the computer somehow makes you feel empowered. Try doing it in public sometime and see how you feel then.

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Hank Hill

July 4th, 2011
9:08 am

300,000 people standing around watching 60,000 people run a 10k. 83% of the group standing around watching 17% do all the work. Yep, that’s America for you.

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Atlanta mom

July 4th, 2011
9:09 am

It’s a great looking shirt.
I do agree it would be nice for the shirts to be something other than white.

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GeorgiaNative

July 4th, 2011
9:12 am

Welcome to the Hot & Humid DirtySouth people. We love it here!!!

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Dave

July 4th, 2011
9:14 am

Jetdawg,

Use spell check, shows what kind of teachers we have.

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Robert the Yellow Jacket

July 4th, 2011
9:20 am

Humidity makes a huge difference as it is more difficult for sweat to evaporate and keep your body cool or at a functioning level.
Rain the night before a race creates the greatest danger with the sky high humidity it produces.
If the elite runners complain (and they have an earlier start time), then you know the masses at a big race like Peachtree will have difficulties.

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Beach Bum

July 4th, 2011
9:21 am

Jessica- Congrats on winning the t-shirt design. I would be proud to wear one…..gonna run for the first time next year!!!

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Lisa

July 4th, 2011
9:21 am

Well stated Nate:)
Good job to all the runners!!

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GT

July 4th, 2011
9:24 am

I think if a man had the cure for cancer some of us would miss it looking for typos.

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Gen Neyland

July 4th, 2011
9:30 am

I’d wager Jessica Ferguson is her own worst critic. The rest of ya’ll hammering on her design probably couldn’t sketch a stick-man…Now when it comes to a color other than white for the t-shirt, I’m with you. Congrats Jessica

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Robert the Yellow Jacket

July 4th, 2011
9:32 am

If this race is so popular, why has our country become so fat?
Are we 10% a nation working to stay fit and 90% a nation of couch potatoes playing fantasy games?

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Base

July 4th, 2011
9:32 am

Congrats on a great design!

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dawg150

July 4th, 2011
9:33 am

Some of you would complain if given 1,000,000 dollars that the ink was too green!!! Get a life…good job Jessica…..and to 11 Alive TV….good job on your coverage of race……HAPPY 4th !!!!!!!

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Robert the Yellow Jacket

July 4th, 2011
9:44 am

Hank answered my question earlier with a lower estimate of the problem.

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pam

July 4th, 2011
9:48 am

As an owner of many Peachtree t-shirts I can honestly say, I usually don’t have a problem with the design itself; I would certainly prefer if the committee would go back to the old style soft shirts, rather than the 100% cotton stiff ones of recent years. My favorite is from the early 90’s and is still so comfy. :)

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doc

July 4th, 2011
9:49 am

GT This is the kind of thinking that “dumbs down” our culture. A “typo” on a cancer research document may have some consequences.

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ddd

July 4th, 2011
9:50 am

wow that is ugly, the current design trend is less is more, these should be a clean and simple design, this looks like something from the 96 olympics

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thejama

July 4th, 2011
9:52 am

I remember running the Peachtree in mid 1980’s in the 4th & 5th grade…old school!! Even then it was terribly hot and I ran on the outside of the runners to get clean air…it helped a lot and I always got my t-shirt:)

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Virgil

July 4th, 2011
9:53 am

I had a feeling he would win by just the way he dominated the Cedartown race. See you later Krige. We’ll have toast later.

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fer

July 4th, 2011
9:59 am

The more I look at it, the more I like it! It’s simple, the colors are nice, and the peach IS incorporated into the design in a subtle way.

Jessica, I hope you get to be an art teacher someday. But, in all sincerity, I hope you will get some help w/ your writing skills. As a retired teacher, I don’t say this to be snarky or anything like that. I think you have a lot to offer to young people, but your colleagues aren’t going to take you seriously until you work on your English. And it is possible — I worked for a man who grew up in a poverty-stricken home in south GA. He worked hard to improve his English skills and eventually received his PhD. He was revered by all who worked for him!

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don

July 4th, 2011
10:02 am

The colors and lettering are so vivid it looks alive, like an animation about to move about on the shirt. Excellent job at creative expression, Ms. Ferguson. And good for you for thinking outside of the peach box, yet able to capture the flavor with the leaf on the C. Your hard work paid off.

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Biff Pocoroba

July 4th, 2011
10:03 am

Robert, it is because 20% of the people jump in the race halfway through just to get a tshirt so people will think they ran 6 miles

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M

July 4th, 2011
10:04 am

And they run this for what? Yeah thought so!!!

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Dave

July 4th, 2011
10:06 am

don, what drugs are you taken to make it look like the shirt is alive?

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Tracy

July 4th, 2011
10:09 am

I run the Peachtree every year. I think this was my 11th time in a row. This one did seem a lot hotter than previous years. I still had a great time. Thank you very much to the Atlanta Track Club, Atlanta Journal-Constitution, City of Atlanta, and all of the thousands of volunteers that make this an amazing event every year. Y’all come on out next year!

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jv

July 4th, 2011
10:13 am

17th year in a row, loved it as always, yes it was hot, but hey, that’s the Peachtree some years. THANKS to the volunteers. I do think the age limit for the runners should be enforced, too many kids…make it a 21 and over event…but great as always!

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KeepCalmAndCarryOn

July 4th, 2011
10:13 am

While the Peachtree is a wonderful event, it is not what it used to be. My problems with the race are:

1) there are *far* too many runners (admittedly I’m a bit disgruntled as I didn’t get chosen in the lottery this year)
2) half the “runners” don’t even attempt to run, and only walk. don’t get me wrong – it’s good having a society that cares about fitness. but why not set up the lottery so that if you have a very slow time in past races (indicating a walker), you get a slightly smaller weight assigned to your registration versus someone (factoring in age of course so you don’t penalize older runners). I do think if you’ve done ten straight P’tree runs, you should automatically qualify.
3) many of the walkers are inconsiderate of those still running. the walkers on the right are fine, but the walkers on the left are often oblivious to those trying to run in a very space-constrained space

The race is wonderful, and I love the crows, volunteers, and the organizers who make this possible. But I do think a few simple managerial tweaks could make this a top-notch event worldwide.

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jv

July 4th, 2011
10:17 am

I like the idea of only registered runners voting for the t shirt, and after 17 years I can tell you the runners prefer white t shirts, not gray, offwhite, or any other color. Congratulations to the winning designer!

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!

July 4th, 2011
10:21 am

My two year old made this shirt, actually.

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shelley

July 4th, 2011
10:21 am

It’s an ugly design for an adult to wear. My seven year old niece would love it.

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Fred

July 4th, 2011
10:23 am

Ran the PT in the 80’s. More like ten miles having to zig and zag and stutter step while veering over to the sidewalks and cutting back to get past the walkers and plodders. And it was “only” 25k back then.

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VININGS DAWG

July 4th, 2011
10:25 am

Congratulations Jessica for creating the winning design. Personally I don;t care for it.

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cm

July 4th, 2011
10:25 am

GREAT DESIGN. As a 20+ year professional designer (with an actual graphic design degree from a four year university) i am very pleased that finally a simple but creative design has been chosen. Was getting tired of seeing the very literal and cluttered designs of the past. This design is a WINNER! and despite what some are saying here I predict more people will actually wear these shirts than the ones in the past.

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jujubeed

July 4th, 2011
10:25 am

I agree with Pam in that I wish they would go back to using a softer cotton shirt. The newer shirts are very thick and stiff feeling.

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mike

July 4th, 2011
10:25 am

Dave,
There is a difference in not knowing how to spell and making a typing error. Some people miss the entire point a person is making by looking for typos so they can then turn around and tell them how stupid they are. Typically, when reading the entire post, you can tell if a person has a good working knowledge of language and writing skills and has simply made a typing error or if that person does not know how to write a sentence. In the case of Jetdawg, the “s” was left out in the word “design”. But if a person has any sense at all, they can read the entire post and clearly see that the poster later spelled this word correctly. I can look at the entire post and determine that Jetdawg can, in fact, write. Also, you must remember that this is a blog, not a paper. People tend to quickly write what is on their mind and they may be prone to some common and easily made mistakes (key stroke errors, punctuation). Now I have done little to proof this, so I await your disapproval. I am sure you can find plenty of errors if you look closely.

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Linda M

July 4th, 2011
10:27 am

Ok, if the winner from Kenya thinks it’s too hot, it’s too hot.

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Wreckmaniac

July 4th, 2011
10:30 am

Its terrific. I would love to wear it.

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Bobby

July 4th, 2011
10:32 am

@keepcalm: It’s your fault you did not run this year. Like you I was not chosen in the lottery. So I bought one of the $150.00 charity entries and will take $117.00 off my taxes as a donation. So you could have run if you wanted. Great race, definitely warmer than last year but very enjoyable. Particularly enjoyed the fly over by during the National Anthem.

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Terry

July 4th, 2011
10:34 am

Stopped running the PT in the 90’s when I had to zig-zag around walkers. If the T-Shirt was given out before the PT, most people would not even show up to walk it.

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Purple Drank

July 4th, 2011
10:36 am

I’m hooked to crack.

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Chris

July 4th, 2011
10:36 am

Simplistic and childish design… Fail.

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D man

July 4th, 2011
10:36 am

Wish I could still train and run the peachtree but my knees are shot from all of the pavement pounding over the years. :(

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Bobby

July 4th, 2011
10:40 am

Personally I think it’s an ugly shirt. But the voters spoke, so the designer gets an “A”. I will wear it as I have earned it.

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Purple Drank

July 4th, 2011
10:41 am

@ Nate

This is a professional publication. The lack of correct spelling and grammar is repugnant considering it is a mass produced publication. How are we to encourage our children to use our language correctly if the mass media outlets can not?

I am equally critical of local television news when they make hideous statements.

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PRR Runner

July 4th, 2011
10:43 am

Saw people wearing the shirt around 14th Street during the race, design could have been better but it is what it is.

BTW, those who want white shirts are going to have to wait until 2014 (The PRR only does them every five years at 30, 35, 40, etc.)

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Mister Christopher

July 4th, 2011
10:46 am

This year’s t-shirt was my least favorite of the five (5) candidates. I do like the oatmeal heather though. My favorite design of the 2000’s was 2004. I dug the “collegiate” feel.

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BlahBlahBlah

July 4th, 2011
10:46 am

Hey KeepCalm – a $35 membership to the Atlanta Track Club guarantees you a spot in the PRR. If it’s that important to you, join the Club and support the group that works their butts off to give you this race every year.

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Nora

July 4th, 2011
10:50 am

AJC dot com is rife with typographical and spelling errors. Even words in the headlines are often misspelled. It isn’t much of a “game” to find them, all you have to do is log on and there they are!

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Bonnie

July 4th, 2011
10:55 am

Yes, it was a little warmer than last year but not terribly so. If you’ve been training after work in the 90+ degree heat, the PRR seems cool! If you don’t like zig-zagging around the walkers, try running a qualifying race and get into one of the first few time groups. The only sizeable mass of walkers I had to pass in Group C were on the hill approaching Piedmont Hospital, and they were all on the right side of the road, thank y’all very much!

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Debra Thomas

July 4th, 2011
10:58 am

Congrratulations Krige…

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jsmtih

July 4th, 2011
11:03 am

Happy Birthday America !! you have gone through many changes and dont look as good as you used too, i fear the America we knew and loved is gone.

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Ben B.

July 4th, 2011
11:07 am

Krige- Congrats!!! I looked for you afterwards but you were collecting all of your loot! GREAT JOB and four is OUTSTANDING!

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Motocross Survivor

July 4th, 2011
11:08 am

Wimps. The first Peachtree I ran was and still is the hottest on record (1991). At race time it was already close to 80 degrees with sky-high dew point. I finished in around 43:20. Note: And I’m pretty sure this was the last Peachtree to have an American (and white) winner, Ed Eyestone of Utah.

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Motocross Survivor

July 4th, 2011
11:10 am

Yes, JSmith, I’m afraid you’re correct about America. It is truly a superpower in decline, morally, economically, culturally, and militarily. Thank the Zionists for that. You actually live in the United States of Israel and may not know it.

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Jake

July 4th, 2011
11:13 am

Mike, shut up.

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Hater

July 4th, 2011
11:21 am

I hate this year’s shirt! It’s ugly and not patriotic. The best shirt ever was from 2008. We should stick to that type of design.

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Tea Party Meber

July 4th, 2011
11:21 am

How many tax payer dollers were waisted on this event?

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Mister Christopher

July 4th, 2011
11:23 am

Wow. Anti-semitism on a PRR article. Nice. Jesus man, everything isn’t the fault of the Jooooos.

I’m guessing you’re on Cynthia McKinney’s campaign staff.

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Robert the Yellow Jacket

July 4th, 2011
11:24 am

Could we get the Rachel Renbarger from today’s best AJC article “Girl Teaches Adults a Civic Lesson” to mediate our politicians endless debate that fails to solve most of our problems? Our pols just want to blame the other side always and posture. She has more sense than just about all of them.

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Julie

July 4th, 2011
11:43 am

Congratulations to all you who finished the race!

Is the shirt so important? I have several and never wear them …

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Curious One

July 4th, 2011
11:45 am

Another great Peachtree, but why all of the “professional” runners ? Who needs them ? The race, its an Atlanta Event, is fine and even better without all of the PROS – let them run in pro meets and leave the Peachtree to regular runners and fun runners/walkers – no more prize money ? Cures the problem immediately.

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Dave

July 4th, 2011
11:50 am

To me, the shirt looks bland and generic, then I look up and see that this person has never entered the Peachtree. Not saying that running the race is a requirement to designing the shirt, but it would be nice to see a design that evokes the course or the race rather than another stale attempt to incorporate a peach into a logo.

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Fast Fred

July 4th, 2011
11:54 am

All the pros? It was the USA 10k Championship race this year. This was a professional race.

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Donna Outlaw

July 4th, 2011
11:58 am

How many who posted negative comments voted for any of the final chosen designs? Congrats to yet another year with a UWG design winner! And, right on, Mike.

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Oraclejacket

July 4th, 2011
12:00 pm

Bonnie @ 10:55…

This was a tough year to run the Peachtree.

It was more than ten degrees hotter this year than last year. That’s a huge difference. And running in the morning is arguably worse than the evening because the humidity is higher in the morning. That means your sweat doesn’t evaporate and cool you.

That said, great event as usual. It is probably the only events I participate in or watch that gives me goosebumps every time. It is a tremendous celebration with great runners and a wonderful crowd that cheers the runners on and hands out water, ice, beer, high 5’s, and an awesome atmosphere.

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Jay H.

July 4th, 2011
12:06 pm

That felt like the hottest Peachtree out of the 15 I’ve run.

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Delta Stewardess

July 4th, 2011
12:22 pm

This was/is a College student? Georgia’s Education shines through. My 6 year old niece paints that well.

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Howard

July 4th, 2011
12:22 pm

I ran 20 straight Peachtree Road Races before I was forced to retire from running due to a bad hip and I have always kept up with the winning shirt every year and I have to say this was the ugliest thing I have ever seen. This so-called art student…did she go and get a three-year old and finger paints and put together this monstrosity??? I only gave away one of my shirts one year because it was so ugly…but at least I brought back home and wore it a few days…but this thing would have probably been given to a street person as a handout before I’d left Piedmont Park. And as for different background colors other than white…it’s cheaper to use white or gray!!!

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James

July 4th, 2011
12:27 pm

Simply put, Jessica produced a clean multi median design that won the contest. I will wear my ‘grey’ shirt with pride. Go Wolves!!!

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Oh Whatever

July 4th, 2011
12:31 pm

Here we go again with the annual “whine and moan about the winning tshirt” thread. I swear that if Milton Glaser himself (look him up, people) designed the shirt one year people would still cry and scream about how ugly it was because “waaaahhhhhh the rest of the world doesn’t cater to my own questionable sense of taste.”

I actually like this years shirt much more than others in recent years. If I had run this years race I would wear it with pride. As someone who makes his living as a graphic designer I appreciate the thought and effort that went into this design. It’s too high of a quality for the drooling masses to appreciate unfortunately.

Congratulations, Jessica! This is going to be great portfolio piece for you. Don’t let the NASCAR-loving denizens of the trailer park take anything away from what you’ve done.

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phil

July 4th, 2011
12:34 pm

I’ll gladly sell my shirt. HORRIBLE!

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phil

July 4th, 2011
12:37 pm

@Oh whatever..You must be one of those that thinks nobody should say what they think, cause it could hurt someone’s feelings. Pathetic. No, I don’t like NASCAR and live in Dunwoody. Nice try. Still, HORRIBLE design!

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Delta Stewardess

July 4th, 2011
12:43 pm

Don’t let the NASCAR-loving denizens of the trailer park take anything away from what you’ve done.

You are kidding right? It looks like a child painted it. It looks like an Adult trying to imitate a kindergarten finger painting class.

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Doug

July 4th, 2011
12:47 pm

4th in a Row and I loved it! Great job, and can’t wait till next year. I love seeing people who are not really physically fit trying. It is an inspiration to me.

Thanks!

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Will

July 4th, 2011
12:49 pm

My first PRR and I had a great time. Not the race to run a PR but you can’t beat that crowd of supporters. Thanks to the ATC for organizing and the AJC for sponsoring.

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Oh Whatever

July 4th, 2011
12:50 pm

Delta Stewardess, Howard,

I’m glad I don’t know either of you as I’m sure I would be equally as repulsed by your trailer park senses of style as you are of the design that won this year. Really, your 6 yr old niece can produce similar quality? I take it shes not blood related then.

And to anyone who claims such a design could be produced by a child, you’re speaking out of the wrong orifice. I’m sure that what ever “profession” you are in could just as easily be performed by a trained rhesus monkey or a computer program designed by a third grader.

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L Whittington

July 4th, 2011
12:52 pm

Love the design! Something simple and organic is refreshing! I like that it is different than the typical “junky” and “stuffy” designs always selected. It’s about time the Peachtree got something fresh! The peachy color in the paint represents the peach instead of the cliche’ peach always showing up. Good thinking. The design and movement of the paint is representative of artistic culture arising in Atlanta. Good job young lady!!!

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Ron Turner

July 4th, 2011
12:55 pm

For those of you whining about not being able to vote for the design, you WERE. Either pay attention months before the race and be involved in the process, or shut up! Although it’s not the design I personally voted for, it’s nice just the same!

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Oh Whatever

July 4th, 2011
12:56 pm

Stewardess, I’m going need more proof than what you are providing me. Tell your niece to enter next year’s competition. Now go fetch me another pillow and some peanuts, trained monkey.

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Jay H.

July 4th, 2011
12:58 pm

THANK YOU, VOLUNTEERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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JaniceB.

July 4th, 2011
12:59 pm

Linda and Carol, why would you take your time to mention such a trivial matter. I would not have responded to you, but I’m hoping to allay other inept responses.

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Ted Turner

July 4th, 2011
1:06 pm

The design is not nice.

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Nancy

July 4th, 2011
1:08 pm

Congratulations to you, Jessica, for having the winning design! I was in shock reading the comments though, I can’t belive people are so rude. This is sad. I like the idea of the participants choosing the design and I bet there was not one person out there that said “No, I don’t want my t-shirt that I earned”. These negative post show the mannerism of some very selfish & mean folks…you people need to pratice the motto “If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all!!!”

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Oh Whatever

July 4th, 2011
1:09 pm

Phil. I’m not against deserved criticism. I’m very opposed to ignorant and childish insults being flung like around like feces at those with actual talent by people clearly lacking in taste and tact.

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mom3boys

July 4th, 2011
1:18 pm

@KeepCalm: there are always numbers to be had. I was about to list mine on CraigsList, then just scanned the list of those looking for numbers. I called a guy, he was thrilled, transaction done. There are always those of us who think we can do this in March, but something comes up. Sorry you had no luck getting a number; better luck next time.

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Delta Stewardess

July 4th, 2011
1:18 pm

Oh Whatever
Nobody made fun of you or called you names. You are a very small person. My Sharpsburg Trailer Park @ Cannon Gate is very nice. I so enjoy the Golf course in my backyard. If you want Peanuts and a Pillow I hope you can actually afford them.

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Krige Schabort

July 4th, 2011
1:23 pm

Thank you everyone. It has been a good day

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Oh Whatever

July 4th, 2011
1:30 pm

You are a very small person

Said the person who insulted a college student.

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Uncle Sam

July 4th, 2011
1:32 pm

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I guess I’m not beholding any beauty with my eye sight looking at that shirt. Not criticizing the artist, just not liking the look for an adult to wear, or to frame and keep on display.

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clyde crommett

July 4th, 2011
1:39 pm

get over the temps july is always hot ur remarks should be about so much fun and your abulity to get out of bed this am

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Elizabeth

July 4th, 2011
1:39 pm

Anyone else not seeing their results? I checked by first name, last, bib number, etc. I walked across the sensor at the expo and my shoe tag was working.

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PRR Vet

July 4th, 2011
1:45 pm

JaniceB. it’s not trivial for a major “newspaper” to consistently have articles that are hard to read and comprehend because of typos and missing words. Fortunately Doug Roberson is one of the better ones! If a writer cannot write correctly how am I the reader supposed to know for sure that the story is even accurate and true? Answer: I can’t be sure.

Today was my 31st and it was about like all the others. FUN and EXCITING! Thanks for all the volunteers, and spectators!

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PRR Vet

July 4th, 2011
1:46 pm

Also a big thanks to the fire, police, and EMS personnel lining the streets!

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Herman Lorenz

July 4th, 2011
1:52 pm

my chip came off somewhere after the arts center. Maybe too much water!

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Chris

July 4th, 2011
1:52 pm

In keeping with tradition, worst shirt wins again…awful!

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Herry Tic

July 4th, 2011
1:55 pm

here’s a mad thought, since July 4th is so hot and humid in Atlanta, why not move the race date to October 1st, a much more pleasant day for a nice run and a date not already occupied with a plethora of competing events.

The Peachtree isn’t about the date, its about the place, why not make it fun and pleasant for everyone spectators and runners and move it to October 1st? A chance to showcase the beauty and splendor of our fair city on a wonderful Autumn day. It doesn’t get any better.

October 1st, think about it.

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John2

July 4th, 2011
2:02 pm

Congratulations for submitting the winning design, Jessica Ferguson!

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moreland

July 4th, 2011
2:08 pm

Enter your comments here

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JaniceB.

July 4th, 2011
2:33 pm

Jessica, don’t let these people fool you. You don’t have an artistic bone in your body. If you believe so, you’re going to be one of the people we end up supporting through welfare. And, I hope you’re not wasting money on the “Hope” scholarship. Find yourself a sanitation job, Jessica.

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phil

July 4th, 2011
2:37 pm

I don’t believe a college student or whoever was insulted. I simply state that it’s not a design I care for.
And as of yet, no one I know, likes the design either. But like many things in “art”, it’s all in the eye of the beholder.

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Hmmmmmmmm

July 4th, 2011
4:11 pm

3 months to design…… ??? Wow…

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Kat

July 4th, 2011
4:16 pm

Not a fan of this particular shirt. I’m surprised to hear that the runners do not get to vote for their favorite. Why does the Board get to select such things – they probably waste money on such activities. When someone registers and pays online for entry, they should get to choose from the top 10 (chosen by the Board or whoever they are), and those people make the selection, which can still be kept secret.

The only P’tree that I ran was in 2003 (or ‘04?). The shirt was an ugly yellow color and the design seemed uninspired. Could I do better? No – but I am not an art student, teacher, etc and don’t claim to be as such.

It’s possible that Jessica and the other finalists were “interviewed” and had their comments written out and posted by the AJC, so she may not be the one with the poor sentence structure. It could be the paper itself.

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Kat

July 4th, 2011
4:21 pm

It was sad to see a picture of the trashcan at the end of the race with the banana peels and plastic water bottles all in one bin. They could use the banana peels for mulching and the bottles could (and should) be recycled.

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donna

July 4th, 2011
5:15 pm

this was my 8th PTRC…this was a tough one…my biggest issue is people not throwing their cups over to the curb…when you are running(walking) this is so dangerous…that’s why it took me 3yrs to do it again due to injuries

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Newbie

July 4th, 2011
5:23 pm

Doug – thanks for those kind words. This was my first “race” of any kind. I’ve been obese my whole life and lost a lot of weight in the past year. I’m still overweight – but still losing. Just being able to get ready for and complete this race (from start to finish) was huge for me and something I needed to do for very personal reasons for the “new me.” Yes, I walked. Yes, I stayed on the right. No, I’m not a “real runner,” but I put my heart into it and am so grateful for the experience, those on the sidelines cheering us on, those volunteers giving out water – it was amazing!!

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Bulldog

July 4th, 2011
5:23 pm

You people are just nasty. Nice job Jessica!

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Oh Whatever

July 4th, 2011
5:32 pm

All the people here making coments about funding for the arts, etc. would probably look at a Monet or a Van Gogh would say it looks like a kindergartner painted it. Those same people would probably rather read an Us Weekly article about the Kardasian sisters than a Dickens novel. And yes they all troll the ajc.com blogs pretending to be “smarter” than people who are actually accomplishing things that they could not. I really hope this student and soon-to-be professional artist is not putting too much weight into the comments of these simple cowards hiding behind computer keyboards armed with little more than their own sense of spite and inflated self-importance.

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BobDog

July 4th, 2011
5:35 pm

It was hot, but no surprise for Atlanta. We have been lucky these past few years.

The Peachtree, except for those up front, is an event, not a race. Being out there with thousands of people, both runner/walkers and spectators is an uplifting experience. For those complaining, there are many true races in the area to run in and post a time.

To the tea bagged asking about taxpayer cost, my understanding is that even the police, firemen and EMS personnel donated their time. This is a huge event for Atlanta’s economy and well worth the cost, whatever small amount it may be.

Thanks to the many volunteers. It is much appreciated.

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BobDog

July 4th, 2011
5:37 pm

Newbie, congratulations and good for you. Keep working on getting better each year. It will give you motivation to continue getting healthier.

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Melanie

July 4th, 2011
5:51 pm

yeah i can’t see my results either! please help i really liked my time :(

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Viktoria Grace

July 4th, 2011
6:04 pm

This was my first time in the Peachtree Road Race so I have nothing to compare it to but yes, it was very hot. I had a great time though! I’d like to do it again next year if I get picked.

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Running Fool

July 4th, 2011
6:04 pm

It was hot out there!

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Bill

July 4th, 2011
6:05 pm

Had to walk this year (for the first time in 17 years) due to an injured leg. Of course, I walked on the rightt

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Running Fool

July 4th, 2011
6:08 pm

All of the complaints about spelling are true. Now can we get back too tha Peechtrea Rhode Rayce?

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Bill

July 4th, 2011
6:09 pm

I had to walk this year due to an injured leg (first time to walk in 17 Peachtrees). New perspective – many runners are discourteous of walkers by running through them “aggressively” on the right. I won’t complain about walkers so much in the future.

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Roger

July 4th, 2011
6:12 pm

PRR Vet – Well said and I absolutely agree. For many AJC writers, spell-check has been a crutch instead of a tool. Let JaniceB. wallow in her “inept” use of what must have been her word of the day–”allay.” You do not allay a response, you avoid it. You do allay someone’s fears, etc., as you lessen or mitigate them.

Linda and Carol, why would you take your time to mention such a trivial matter. I would not have responded to you, but I’m hoping to allay other inept responses.

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Delta Stewardess

July 4th, 2011
6:27 pm

Monet and Van Gogh were not supported with Public funds either. The Rich supported the artists now funds from the public taxes. Most artists were poor as hell during their lives too.

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watson

July 4th, 2011
6:39 pm

I thought this years road race temperatures were great. How does someone from Kenya think Atlanta is hot at 74 degrees?

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Sue Fogg Stanley

July 4th, 2011
6:42 pm

Way to go Coach Thorn!! You have been an inspiration to many!! I have cheered you on for years!! See you next year too!!

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dean

July 4th, 2011
6:43 pm

Somewhere in Afghanistan is a Marine or soldier humping a 100lbs over his body weight who really doesn’t care how hot it was in ATL this morning. Perspective is a good thing. Seller Fi.

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dean

July 4th, 2011
6:45 pm

Uh…I hate auto-correct. That should have ended “Semper Fi”

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Gigi

July 4th, 2011
6:53 pm

I’m not gonna bash the winner, however, I do believe a better shirt could have been chosen. I agree with earlier posts, have a people’s choice winner BUT allow only the registered participants to choose the winning shirt since WE are the ones that want to wear it proudly. The volunteer shirts are usually bright and prettier- what’s up with that? No fair

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Patricia

July 4th, 2011
6:54 pm

If you’ve run the race annually over the years and kept the shirts–unfold them and spread them out so you can see them one vs. the other. This year’s shirt has to be about production cost cutting. Last year’s, too. Very little color. 4-color, vs. full color in 2009 and previous? (any commercial artists out there who know?) I want a quilt. Better get it made with what I already have. Future shirts may be black & white.

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Oh Whatever

July 4th, 2011
7:07 pm

DS, while I wasn’t really trying to make any remark to the point that they were or were not publicly funded (and I’m not exactly sure what point you were trying to make either) It’s worth noting that the many of the museums that display their works are publicly funded. But again that really falls outside the point I was making.

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JaniceA.

July 4th, 2011
7:14 pm

Was Jessica paid for this? If so, we need a refund. Since the
T-shirts have been so awful and such a big source of disappointment among the runners and it seems that the Peachtree Road Race officials can’t get it right, why can’t we have a system whereby you don’t pay for the T-shirt up front; you only pay the actual race entry fee; a protype of the “winning” T-shirt is not revealed until the end of the race, and, if you like it, you order it. Otherwise, you don’t burden yourself with a piece of clothing you’re not going to use as intended. Peachtree Road Race brass, we know you read these comments, please do something to get us out of this T-shirt despair. This is negatively affecting a lot of people’s 4th of July.

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Marcia

July 4th, 2011
7:59 pm

My 6th or 7th P’Tree, and certainly the hottest. But what an incredible job of organizing by the ATC. 60,000 runners, on time starts for all time groups, great volunteers starting and shepherding the runners, adequate watering, cool down and elimination stations all along the way. And those elimination stations didn’t run out of toilet paper or hand sanitizers – that’s impressive. The Georgia peaches (along with the other goodies) they were handing out at the end were the icing on the runner’s cake. Boring T-shirt design, but still has pride of place among my 2011 running spoils. Sure people complain, but you just can’t please all the people all the time. Thanks ATC. Thanks volunteers. Thanks onlookers. See you in 2012!

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phil

July 4th, 2011
10:15 pm

@Oh Whatever…Hiding behind computer keyboards? No, my name is Phil. Is your name “Oh Whatever”? lol…Go vote for Obama again loser.

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Put On Your Big Person Pants

July 4th, 2011
11:22 pm

The fact that Jessica’s design is better than what I could have submitted doesn’t make it good. There were other good designs, but even if there were none better, I can still note that this one looked juvenile without the cuteness. Jessica would certainly disagree with me, as would many of you, and I admit that she/others are more qualified to judge the aesthetic merit of this design than I—but again, that doesn’t mean I can’t be disappointed. And for all of you worrying about poor Jessica’s feelings: I’m sure she’s able to take criticism and negativity. If she isn’t, she’s in the wrong field of study!

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Put On Your Big Person Pants

July 4th, 2011
11:40 pm

Oh, and regarding Oh Whatever’s comment, “And yes they all troll the ajc.com blogs pretending to be ’smarter’ than people who are actually accomplishing things that they could not.”

How exactly does that differ from the blog you tolled before posting this fallacious vent? Setting aside Delta Stewardess’s reasonable point, let’s see whether I understand what you WERE saying: Everyone criticizing the shirt prefers pop culture to literature, can’t possibly appreciate fine art, and is a coward. A+ in ad hominem, but failing grades in reasonable discussion of opinion.

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Disappointed Runner

July 5th, 2011
12:04 am

We need to exclude West Georgia College from the T-shirt competition. They don’t know how to teach art there.

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Obama is a Much Better Choice than the Republican Idiots For Whom You Vote

July 5th, 2011
12:12 am

Typical Republican idiots (”phil”). Now trying to divert this into a hate forum against our President. O’bama is an outstanding President, but, of course, you KKK descendants won’t acknowledge that. Did you hack into FOX and send that message?

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Bill

July 5th, 2011
12:17 am

Probably the ugliest Peachtree shirt ever, which is saying a lot. This was the worst design among the finalists. And why can’t we ever have a white t-shirt?

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nobody

July 5th, 2011
12:26 am

someone needs to turn the damn comments off befoe the artist commits Hiri Kari. Christ grow a brain AJC.

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15 yr p'tree finisher

July 5th, 2011
1:35 am

colors? fine, but what about it says atlanta or anything related to running or july 4? nada….ALL the other designs were better.

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2011 Peachtree Runner

July 5th, 2011
6:05 am

@H4oj – just as an FYI….the runners did get to vote on the shirts….NONE of the choices were all that great but there were some better than the one we ended up with. I am happy for Jessica that she was selected, but sad at the idea this is what people thought was the best design. No disrepect to Jessica…she designed what she liked…art is appreciated by the person seeing it and we can all see something dfferent. Just as people have the right to like it, people also have the right to dislike it and express that dislike. It doesn’t make them negative it just makes it…well, they didn’t like it.

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mojo

July 5th, 2011
7:26 am

Wow you guys..it’s a t-shirt!! Not a wedding gown!

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Gina

July 5th, 2011
7:59 am

Congrats to Jessica, the designer. But for the 2nd year of running the race, I don’t like the design that was picked. I would prefer that the voters and committee choose something more patriotic, since the race is on July 4th.

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DGGj

July 5th, 2011
8:03 am

No need to make unkind remarks about the artist who merely submitted her design. However, I find it hard to grasp that his design received the majority of votes. As others have said, the “shirt” is our badge of being part of something great and patriotic. Where was the patriotic in this design? The national anthem, the fly over, people carrying flags of all sizes, all of these brought tears of pride to my eyes. This design did not reflect what it means to me to be a part of this great Atlanta 4th of July tradition. There is nothing wrong with the art or the artist. It’s just that this design was not right for a Peachtree road race t shirt.

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Patrick

July 5th, 2011
8:16 am

I like the T-shirt design. Congrats to Jessica !

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Daniel

July 5th, 2011
8:35 am

I think the design could be better, it even shows a little to some on the shirt. Also, people get to vote on the Peachtree Shirt design here on AJC.

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Craig

July 5th, 2011
9:20 am

Congratulations, Jessica. But, wow. I thought this design had no shot. I figured it would be last out of the five. I was really shocked when I saw the first guy pull it out of his bag. But don’t “We” vote for this?? So didn’t “We” get what we wanted??

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DC

July 5th, 2011
9:38 am

Man you guys are some babies..its a shirt. the kid won. Were you planning on wearing the shirt to a club or something? Get over yourselves…no need to bash the person who created the piece. Please go back and read all the comments you all have posted…you’ll realize you sound like an idiot. Don’t let the troll in you win…fight the urge!

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Alex

July 5th, 2011
10:03 am

My results also aren’t showing up and I definitely had my d tag on the entire time…

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Just observer

July 5th, 2011
10:34 am

This is very artful t-shirt. The colors are peachy and the peach treatment on the “C” is a nice touch. The only criticism I have is that the sponsors logos should have been on the back: messes with the design as is. Nice job, Jessica. Congrats to all the runners.

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Smitha

July 5th, 2011
10:52 am

I like the design. Simple, vibrant ‘peachy’ colors without the literal Peach. But hate the Tshirt itself. Atlanta Track Club gives GREAT technical tshirts in almost all its races – why not this one? The generic sized Tshirt never fits right on me and after one wear at the fireworks in the evening of the race, the Tshirt is banished to my race shirt collection.

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ATL71

July 5th, 2011
10:55 am

This was my first Peachtree. The feeling of accomplishment when crossing the finish line was quite remarkable. Well done, ATL Track Club and all the volunteers.

As for the design: It was not the one that I voted for, as I wanted a shirt with a patriotic theme to recognize July 4th.

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Lis

July 5th, 2011
11:00 am

Good enough job on the design. But I just dont like the shirt. Looks bad and washed out on gray and just doesn’t have anything to do with the city or the 4th. Out of all the race shirts I have, this is my least fave.

Also, relax on the all caps and stuff people. Jeez, it’s a shirt.

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NativeAtlantan

July 5th, 2011
11:14 am

For 20 consecutive years I’ve walked from Piedmont Rd. up Peachtree to the starting area of the race. I was aware of ongoing construction in front of one of the buildings along that side of the road, but knew the sidewalk was open because I run it daily. Imagine my surprise when I ran into a fence and a volunteer ushering me across Peachtree when I was only 100 yards from the starting line. At that point, a 2 minute walk into the Lenox parking lot for warm-up/stretching was replaced with a 0.67 mile hilly and humid maze behind buildings that dumped us out behind Phipps and led us up the Buckhead Loop to the corral entrances on that side of Peachtree Rd. Was the Lenox parking lot even utilized for pre-race activities this year? Where did I miss the notification that runners coming from the Piedmont/Peachtree intersection would not be able to access the starting area this year? Since I was in corral A and arrived very early, I was able to adjust and made it for the start of the race, but just barely. What did runners in later corrals do who got stuck on Peachtree south of the starting line?

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Rodney

July 5th, 2011
11:26 am

Great race. It was my first one. I’ll definitely do it again next year lord willing. I’ll also bring more carbs. Thanks to all that made it possible. What a beautiful route also.

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pjz

July 5th, 2011
11:38 am

I didn’t vote for it. And ditto on the sponsors being on the back instead of messing up the design.

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SULIANNA

July 5th, 2011
11:41 am

My husband Ron and I ran our first ever Peachtree Road Race this year! What a GREAT experience. We were inspired by our Neighbor Nancy last year on the 4th of July.She mentioned that she had ran the race. I was like how far is it, she said 6.2 miles and I said, You ran the entire way?? And she said yes. I was like hey honey, we should put that on our bucket list….we should run the Peachtree next year. We started training that week. I am 44 1/2 years young and have never run in my life. It was very intimidating. We slowly got better and better and before you know it, we were running our first 5K, then our next 5K and a 3rd. This Peachtree Race was my biggest accomplishement…. I never dreamed it was possible and I never dreamed I could do it! Wow what will I put on my bucket list next??? Thanks Nancy!!!

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KT

July 5th, 2011
12:08 pm

Jessica, huge congratulations!!! I love the design and it shows a true sense of artistry. Please don’t be bothered by all the negative feedback. Remember most people only comment when it’s something negative, so for every negative post you read there about 1000 people who love your design. You should be so proud of yourself and your design, this is one of the t-shirts I will actually wear on a regular basis.

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john reese

July 5th, 2011
12:15 pm

Shits dope. Any of the haters that don’t want their shirt ill buy it.

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Sharon

July 5th, 2011
12:44 pm

This was my first Peachtree Road Race. Was very disappionted in this T-shirt design. VERY UGLY. When I voted. this design was TRUELY THE WORST ONE. STILL CAN’T BELIEVE THIS DESIGN WAS THE WINNER.

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Stacy

July 5th, 2011
1:49 pm

This was my first time to participate in the Peachtree, what a great experience!

I love the t-shirt design! The design is original, shows so much creativity, and the colors are lovely!

Great job to all who participated in the race!

Kudos to Jessica for adding such a beautiful element to this historic event!!!!

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Rick

July 5th, 2011
4:07 pm

If I had a vote this would have been the last one I would have voted for. But the fact is the Peachtree has had an incredible history of less than creative T Shirts. How about another color? RED, BLUE, ORANGE I don’t care.

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Ryneberg

July 5th, 2011
4:58 pm

Arguably the slowest of my 17 Peachtrees, but I had a blast doing a kegstand and having a few beers along the way.

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Lin

July 5th, 2011
6:06 pm

Who picks the final shirts? I agree we could use some original designs (non-computer generated) but this was the worst yet. It looks like kid’s finger paint. What says Atlanta? What says July 4th — our Indendence Day? The others at least had that appeal. For now on, I’ll make sure I vote and get all of my running groups to make sure they cast a vote. I normally like to wear my shirt but didn’t even bother getting a picture this time.

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New Method of Determining Winning T-Shirt

July 5th, 2011
9:06 pm

The Peachtree Road Race organizers should man-up or woman-up and develop a new way of determining the winning T-shirt. Perhaps the winner should be determined by a committee, consisting of some Georgia art professors, some of the Peachtree Road Race officials, some consistent runners, and some civilians who have made the Peachtree Road Race famous, such as Gail Barron. Select who you would like to be on the committee and it could change every year, but the winner should not be left up to public voting of people who probably have no other interest in the race. From their two consecutive wins, it’s obvious West Georgia College has a machine going whereby they’re in control of who wins. The rest of us have to work and we can’t compete with that. Some type of committee should choose the winner. I’ve been participating in the race, on and off, since the 80’s, and I’ve never seen this amount of unhappines with the shirt. The race organizers should take our complaints seriously and devise a new way to pick the winning shirt. I believe they did this at one time (don’t know who the selectees were at that time), but leaving it up to public voting has been a complete disaster, especially with the machines some of the contestantshave. West Georgia College can continue to submit crap and win everytime. This should have been expected.

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AGREE WITH NEW METHOD OF DETERMINIG WINNING SHIRT

July 5th, 2011
9:10 pm

I AGREE WITH NEW METHOD OF DETERMINING THE WINNING T-SHIRT. THE UNIVERSITY OF WEST GEORGIA IS FIXING THE WINNER, AND THEY SHOULDN’T BE ALLOWED TO HAVE THAT KIND OF POWER.

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DHD

July 5th, 2011
10:03 pm

Loved it!! I beat 42,000 runners!!! :)

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Handicapper

July 5th, 2011
10:07 pm

I thought the race was well organized this year. I recorded the race and saw something funny when I got home. The bald eagle guys, if you’ll notice, have elite numbers. They were at the start line with the Kenyans and when the Peachtree started a couple of them took of like a rocket. For 15 seconds or so the Kenyans were getting left in their dust. A prank thought of by many, but perhaps never as well played.

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Chelle

July 5th, 2011
10:10 pm

The race was great and the peaches were awesome! I do have to say though I’m always frustrated by slower folks not staying to the right, but as a person that slows down on the right being knocked over by runners who don’t move left is just as bad.

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ACE

July 5th, 2011
10:12 pm

I agree about the freebies. Not only does it cause gridlock, it is down right dangerous. I saw a girl get knocked to the ground by some guy diving for some crappy T-shirt.

This was my 15th PRR! I still love every minute of it!!

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Nancy Miller

July 5th, 2011
10:17 pm

I am. A walker, and this is my 3rd Peachtree. the first two, Iwas in waves at the back of the pack, and by the time I got to mile 4, all that was left were empty cups and abandoned stages. But this time , we were in M, and we really had a totally different experience. I am very grateful to the runners for sharing this event with walkers…and I would like to remind walkers that if they want to continue to be welcome, they need to really be conscious of what is going around them. I felt really bad for the runners who were dodging around walkers near the left side of the rode, especially in the last mile of the race. I am proud that I was able to improve my still tortoise like pace despite the heat and humidity, especially after the uncharacteristically cool and dry race of 2010! looking forward to next year!

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Nancy

July 5th, 2011
10:27 pm

I am a walker, and this was my 3rd race. I am grateful that the runners are willing to share this event with those of us who are somewhat speed challenged! I am proud that I shaved 6 minutes off my tortoise like pace, even in the heat and humidity. I actualy enjoyed this year much more than 2010, probably because I was in Wave M instead of W! Last year we finished so late, most of the excitement was over before we finished. I am looking forward to next year, And the joy of bighting into a juicy Georgia peach when it is all over!

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Ed Buckley

July 5th, 2011
10:29 pm

The F-16 Flyover before the race was AWESOME !! It gave me chills!

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Susan

July 5th, 2011
10:31 pm

Lots of good things to say about the race organization and the race itself! However, the empty paper cups covered the road at times and created some slippery moments. Is it possible to drop the empty cups closer the the edges of the road? Looking forward to next year~

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Carol ilovecondiments

July 5th, 2011
10:32 pm

I’ll start with GREAT – The Home Depot tent in the park – although I am no longer employed there, they could see I was in dire need of water and carbs and welcomed me in – I ate their scrumptious and juicy orange wedges like a starving animal. THANK YOU for probably saving me from the medical tent, HD!

Good – Um, I finished? Finally? And no blisters!

Bad – Doraville MARTA station – I decided to go there instead of my usual Dunwoody/Perimeter station this year. Never again. Had to park 1/2 mile from the station, took 20 minutes to get my ticket, and missed my wave start by 20 minutes.
Bad – Heat, worse than expected. Do not remember much of the last mile. Yikes! (Yes, I hydrated well for at least a week beforehand and trained in the heat at the end of most days I worked out.)
Bad – At Piedmont Park – Did not see any peaches or cookies. Water was HOT in the bottles. Did get a half of a banana. One end was smashed. :(

Ugly – Nothing ugly.

Scary – More people down with medics than I have seen before. The heat really did a number on many of us this year!

Inspiring! – I passed a 90 year old man who had many cheering fans along the route. He was all smiles as I passed and said “you have a lot of fans out here!” When I was leaving the park I heard them announce him crossing the finish line.

For next year
- More garbage cans. They are always overflowing.
- If not cold (yeah yeah, I know, but it sure feels good), at least cooler water than hot?
- NEVER pull up the “finish line” from the street until you’re sure the last person has gone over it and has had their picture taken! I saw times of 4 hours plus out there. Think of the accomplishment for those people, whatever their story (unless of course they stopped for a drink on the way…). :)
- Is it possible to get busses to shuttle people to the train stations? I would pay ahead of time to make that happen! LOL!

See you next year! I hope to cut my time in half next year.

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mirandalambert2012

July 5th, 2011
11:06 pm

I liked how they divided the groups into more numbers and I knew when mt start time would be. I did not see a water stop on the second mile so that was disappointing (maybe I just missed it). The one thing I dont like and believe needs to be addressed is that they need to get the finishing line a little closer to the MARTA station. We had to walk from the finishing line to the MARTA station and it seemed like it had to be about a 2 mile walk that was pretty much entirely all uphill. Thats crazy. One of these days someone is going to pass out or something worse. The race organizers really need to do something about this. Otherwise everything was fine. I would also like to say I think the brunnettes had better running outfits than the blondes did. Sorry blondes, the brunnettes and redheads outdid you yesterday. Just sayin’.

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PRR Runner

July 6th, 2011
5:38 am

The “design” is nice but it is the gray cotton shirt that it is printed on that I have an issue with. I like the idea of having only the registered runners vote for the shirt design since they are the group that will actually receive it.

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DAWGSTYLE

July 6th, 2011
9:59 am

The giant flag and THE FLY OVER was Awesome !!!! “chills”. The heat was terrible. I agree was the bloggers and the walkers, I did run the whole race (slow) and I wish if a participant must walk PLEASE get right of the center line !!!! Just a thought… how about having the bagels and bananas closer to the Poweraide and water. They could not of been further apart ! Any way to have shuttles at P.P.to the Marta station ??? It was my 11th year in a row and I really enjoyed it !

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Sebastian...KBHFIT.COM

July 6th, 2011
10:15 am

We had a great time!!!! There were about 20 people in our group from KBH fitness. Our goal was to finish and leave noone behind. I absolutely enjoyed it! Next year I will have my 9 year ol daughter with me!!!! Live Clean, Live Healthy = Living Longer

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Sunday

July 6th, 2011
11:37 am

Congratulations, Jessica. Great work! Keep working hard on your writing skills which will polish your image. What a wonderful honor to include this accomplishment on your resume as you embark on I’m certain will be a very successful career in art.

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Heywood Jooblome

July 6th, 2011
11:54 am

I b!tched about the very bad corral/crowd control last year. It was good this year. Smart move to funnel everyone along Lenox Road to the middle of the corrals instead of from the starting area. Who’d have thunk it would have taken the ATC this long to figure that out.

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Damian

July 6th, 2011
12:21 pm

I will congratulate Jessica for her design garnering the most votes. I’m not personally fond of the design, but then I also very rarely wear any of the other four PRR t-shirts hanging in my closet. My favorite, though, is the 2008 shirt. I doubt I’ll ever slip this one one to go out in public. (it really does look like finger paint)

I opted to not vote this year as non of the five candidates screamed “vote for me” this time around. It would be nice if every piece of artwork submitted was required to include at least two of four design elements: Atlanta, Peach (or peachtree), America (flag, or other use of a patriotic emblem/symbol), Running.

And I, too, like the idea of only allowing registered participants (and volunteers for that matter) vote for the winning design, or at least maybe having a method by which a registered participant’s vote counted twice as much as a non-participant.

So, sorry Jessica…while I’m glad to have collected this year’s PRR “trophy”, the 2011 t-shirt I got will most likely only ever see the inside of my closet. But just think, in a hundred years, any surviving examples will be a collector’s item. (but I bet it will still shock people to know that it took 3 months to design this thing.)

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Walkers To The Right

July 6th, 2011
1:48 pm

While some see the Peachtree as a party and others as something that they don’t have to train for (since everyone gets a t-shirt), there are those that wish to RUN the race. For this reason, race organizers should consider placing signs in the medians every half mile or approaching water stations that points walkers to the right and runners to the left.

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That Was More Than 6.2 Miles

July 6th, 2011
2:26 pm

My team and I had a blast this year! HOWEVER, let’s be honest, after running/walking the actual race we were so disgusted that we had to walk an extra “10 miles” to reach the Marta Station. Where were the shuttles!

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CJM

July 6th, 2011
2:30 pm

Great organization, this was my first PRR and I was very impressed how well organized and right on time everything was, from taking Marta to the Family Meeting points. A+

The bad: the walkers taking the left, the center and the right of the road. My run tracker showed me that I ran 6.41 miles instead of 6.2. I guess I had to zigzag .2 miles.

I will do it next year, GREAT event.

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July 6th, 2011
2:54 pm

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alex

July 6th, 2011
2:57 pm

If you want a decent shirt do the j-ville 15 k-tecnical with good colors. This is an adolescent design on a poor quality shirt,worst design since the BMW debacle of the 80’s(all you yuppies liked that one).Lottery,mailing costs,UGLY and CHEAP t-shirt,decline of a once fun race……Sheesh

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je

July 6th, 2011
3:53 pm

Congratulations Jessica!

I love what you have designedI I’m in the arts field myself and recognize creativity. It doesn’t look so graphic designed and so commercial like some of the other designs.

This was my first PRR and it didn’t matter to me what T-shirt it was. I am thankful for it no matter what.

Continue to prevail in your arts career and don’t let anyone bring you down! All these negative comments will only make you a stronger individual.

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PRR newby

July 6th, 2011
3:57 pm

As a first time participant, I thought the organization of the actual race was superb!! The party atmosphere was contagious. The worst part of the day, without question—MARTA. The ticket machines at the Doraville station were the longest lines of the day,, even at 6:00AM, and could the MARTA employees be a little more rude?? I agree with the need for transportation from Piedmont Park back to a train station. I’m sure MARTA makes enough profit on this single event to provide busses to shuttle runners to train stations.
I will certainly participate again next year, but MARTA won’t be a part of the event for my family and friends.
Job well done organizers!!!

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notasnob

July 6th, 2011
3:58 pm

CJM,The walkers get the right side we can’t have it all :-) I thought everything but the HEAT was great.But what can you do,it’s July in Atlanta.IF the guy that yells in your face at mile 5 gets in my face again next year,He will need medical help and I will be going to jail.Other than that,Great race!

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Dreamer 3K

July 6th, 2011
5:31 pm

This was my third Peachtree Road Race. Great event but what I dread most is my inevitable pre race trip to the port-a-potty. They are absolutely DISGUSTING. Next year I’ll hydrate less beforehand and risk passing out if it will help me avoid the pre race potty.

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mc

July 6th, 2011
6:02 pm

Just so that all of you know, a writer from the Atlanta Journal Constitution wrote this article, not the designer…………… Maybe you should be criticizing how the Atlanta Journal Constitution actually hires people who do not know how to write grammatically correct.

And if any of you actually read the article, this design was not just painted but was also digitally manipulated in Photoshop, which is probably why it took her so long. I’m an art person myself so I know that dealing with computer designing software takes awhile and is not easy. The article said that each letter was individually scanned in. She had to take the time to manipulate each letter of the word. If any of you are familiar with Photoshop, you know that there must of have been alot of layers to be dealing with.
You may not like the paint effect but you should keep your mouth shut when talking about how much work and time goes into it, especially when you probably don’t have any experience with the software or media. I don’t think your six year old children can manipulate and create computer graphics using Photoshop.

All she did was design it. The public selected it. So criticize the mass instead of the actual artist. I am sure she is used to dealing with criticism. So you don’t have to like the design, but don’t attack her personally.

Also, I know someone who submitted the design last year, and I learned that the Atlanta Track Club is responsible for picking the color of the actual T-shirt. So email them with your complaints…

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July 6th, 2011
7:38 pm

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robert

July 6th, 2011
7:43 pm

race organizers have to make a better effort to make people walk on right run on left as usual just like driving on 285 I ran on right side to get away from slow people on the left

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Nebo

July 6th, 2011
9:02 pm

Design is nice, but the cotton blend is not. It doesn’t breathe like my other four, 100% cotton Peachtree Road Race shirts. A bit disappointing.

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Courtenay

July 6th, 2011
9:39 pm

My very 1st PRR. My time was ok, but I knew that it wouldn’t great given the heat,humidity, and humanity…..and our “Y” wave group. Great job with organization ATC! “Y” is the last group and we actually started right on time! I stopped at every water station for a few sips and then poured the rest over my heat. Ran thru the sprinklers when I could. Had to weave a bit, as it is the world’s largest 10k! Fantastic! I’ll be back!

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loudog

July 6th, 2011
9:49 pm

i wish that people would not bring strollers to the expo and i agree for more trash cans and shuttles up the backside of the hill to marta. Oh and yes the right side is for slower runners or walkers so if your looking for a PR stay to the left the far left, even people who train like me get hot and have to take a break, and yes keep all the freebies to the right side of the road and everyone should be happy

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Dennis Murray

July 6th, 2011
10:15 pm

The Peachtree is one of two races I’ve run in my career where there are actual spectators. It makes for a much more fun event!

Really glad I earned my spot in the “A” group this year and was able to start early. It made for a better experience than prior years. I didn’t notice any of the freebies when I came down the course – so maybe that got ramped up a little later as the crowd moved down the course.

I was a little underwhelmed by the music along the course – again, might have been an early vs. later thing. I wish DJ’s would let Kool and the Gang (or any other Jock Jams) have a rest and come up with something a little fresher.

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alex

July 7th, 2011
7:46 am

In the good old days, there was a time limit and NOT anyone who payed for a number could get a t-shirt;I saw people walking at 1 mile.. Thus these “voters” may not be actual “runners” and many were not even “walkers”. I agree that only contestants should vote and there should be a time limit instituted,LIKE THE GOOD OLD DAYS, WHEN THE T-SHIRT MEANT SOMETHING…sHEESH

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alex

July 7th, 2011
7:49 am

Then again we could give trophys and medals to everyone,stop timing so that no one would be disappointed and all the people could live in buckhead and drive bmw,s ..Oh atlantans do that already..

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mc

July 7th, 2011
8:27 am

Just because it says “blog” does not mean she wrote it…read the top—” by Doug Roberson” ……….he is the one who can’t write. He interviewed her and then butchered the write up…They used the term blog very losely, and in result made her look bad…..nice job AJC

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DGGj

July 7th, 2011
9:27 am

I agree with Damian. Atlanta/peach or Peachtree, patriotic emblem/symbol and running should be required elements of the PRR t shirt design. It was a lovely design—it just didn’t reflect the event, the participants or the 4th of July.

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Marie

July 7th, 2011
3:20 pm

This was my 9th Peachtree. Why was the color grey used for the tees 2 years in a row. For the past 3 years, the volunteer shirts were nicer than the runners. Don’t use white or grey for the next 10 years.

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Marie

July 7th, 2011
4:32 pm

I’m ok with the design but I can’t understand why the color grey was the shirt color 2 years in a row. For the past 3-4 years the volunteer shirts have been more attractive than the runners. I hope the ATC officals will refrain from using white and grey shirts for the next 10 years. People like colors. Fun colors inspire people to wear the shirts more often.

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Jake and Jennifer

July 7th, 2011
6:59 pm

That T-shirt was ugly and horrendus and showed no talent

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Jake and Jennifer

July 7th, 2011
7:01 pm

We’re letting West Georgia College pad the voting. They don’t have anything to do but vote all day. The rest of us work. We need to figure out another way to choose the winning shirt.

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Stop West Georgia From Padding the Vote!

July 7th, 2011
7:13 pm

The proof is there that West Georgia keeps winning because they pad the vote. And all these words of praise for this despicable shirt are coming from unemployed West Georgia alum — the rest of us have to work; so, obviously, they have more time to out-vote us. We need to find a way to choose the winning shirt so it can be more democratic (not the party but fair to all, West Georgia alum. We can’t keep using crap as the winning model for the Peachtree Road Race T-shirt. West Georgia doesn’t care as long as they get publicity somehow.

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lettherunners

July 7th, 2011
11:44 pm

vote on the shirt! After they reg they get a one time code to use to vote.I know someone smarter than me can do this & make it work but there is your idea.

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Sid

January 20th, 2012
10:27 am

Heck, run?? Are you crazy?

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bob

January 20th, 2012
12:57 pm

So you have to pay $35 to run a 10K?? How about no….

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Highway robbery!

January 20th, 2012
1:49 pm

To pay $7.50 each to have them mailed. More like $3.00 would be fair but that’s the ATC’s way of bribing you to come downtown to pick them up!

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Interested?

January 20th, 2012
2:51 pm

Wonder where all that money goes?
Let’s see $35 x 60,000 = $2,100.00

I am in the wrong business. Cause some one is getting rich..

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Interested?

January 20th, 2012
2:52 pm

Wait missed some zeros

$2,100,000

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GSD

January 20th, 2012
2:58 pm

WOW! I didn’t know it was such a steep cost for a T-shirt…

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j

January 20th, 2012
3:17 pm

Peachtree Road Race is a classic 10K, not sure why the knock on it. Obviously, none of you posting here run or keep in shape.

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RLC

January 20th, 2012
4:02 pm

Seriously if you are not interested in running why even post to just show you are lazy and do not like to push your physical limitations. For big events $35 is actually extremely fair and this event is HUGE for the city. People from all over the world come to run this race and everyone makes an event out of the whole day.

Just to give a small comparison the Disney Half Marathon (which I know is longer) cast over $100 and you do not get into the parks for the day with that price.

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madmommy(not really mad)

January 20th, 2012
5:02 pm

I just wish for once I was in the correct time group based on timed entry runs. Guess I will need to join ATC to get the better time wave. Oh well, just have to step over people like I do every year.

It is a great way to start out a holiay where you know you are going to eat and drink a bit more than you should. I have been running the race since 2004, just wish Wachovia-Opps Wells Fargo was a sponsor again since that always made the race just that much more fun. Sigh.

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Billy Ray

January 20th, 2012
11:43 pm

Why does knocking the Peachtree Road Race mean you are lazy out of shape?

Blogging is for idiots and j and GSD prove it. I’m out and won’t blog anymore. Don’t want to contribute to the moron quotient of AJC readership.

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RJA

January 21st, 2012
2:42 pm

Really people? Instead of reading this article and posting your disinterest of the event, why don’t you get off your butt and exercise. Furthermore…putting a big mac in your mouth is not considered exercise.

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Lee

March 21st, 2012
9:50 am

I think there are walkers in every start wave, so unless you’re just really fast, your start wave only matters as far as not having to wait to start.
I do quite a few 5Ks and 10Ks, and have done one Half Marathon (none of them with anything resembling speed), and the Peachtree is by FAR the MOST fun event of any year, even if 6.2 miles is closer to 7.1 by the time I maneuver around all the walkers. :-)
Thanks for this event!

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Jeff

March 21st, 2012
3:05 pm

The early you start the race, the cooler the temperature. Last year I was lucky to be in wave A because it was a scorcher for those poor later wave people.

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Linda W. Harris

March 22nd, 2012
10:11 am

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FirstTimer

March 22nd, 2012
10:52 am

I’m a maid of honor for my best friend’s wedding coming up and we are both going to be training for the PRR as a way to get in shape and look our best best for her big day. So excited! :)

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dudley dawg

March 22nd, 2012
1:47 pm

If you miss out on Peachtree, Firecracker 10k, 5k and 1 mile in Wrightsville on July 4 is an option and comes with parade, fetival and fireworks.

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cmrc

March 22nd, 2012
10:21 pm

“…fighting people for port-a-potties.”

Your summary of the Peachtree is “running in a big group, packet pickup and fighting people for port-a-potties?”

Are you trying to discourage newbies? How about: world’s largest 10K; humble beginning with just 110 runners in 1970; follows famous Peachtree Street into fantastic Piedmont Park; includes the Olympic mile in midtown; big purses for professionals; every registered runner gets actual timing; wave starts let everyone have room to run; the fastest finishers will finish before the last groups even start; world-class finish area with refreshments, awards stage and music by Yacht Rock Revue; and on and on…

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She's honest not a shill

March 23rd, 2012
9:37 am

She’s just summarizes what a newbie will actually experience. They won’t get to experience 110 runners in 1970. Running in the world’s largest 10k sorta implies running in a big group. Wave starts are certainly nice and help but, again, like you said it’s still the largest 10k, you are getting away from a large group of people to navigate through. It is unlikely that a newbie reading this blog is actually competing for or will even see the runners that get the big purses. And in today’s races, it is the rare race that doesn’t have individual timing.

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She's honest not a shill

March 23rd, 2012
9:38 am

“…you *aren’t* getting away from a large group of people to navigate through…”

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ATC Member

March 26th, 2012
8:55 am

How do you become a blog writer for the AJC Peachtree road race? The current writers are horrible.

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Own2Feet

March 28th, 2012
5:55 pm

I run barefoot because I like the way it feels and otherwise, I wouldn’t exercise as much. As for the study, the runners were not really barefoot – they had all manner of contraptions on their feet and were running on a treadmill. Not a true measure of efficiency at all, but the press loves to put one side against another, so that’s what’s happening here. And even if shoe-running did turn out to be more efficient in terms of burning energy, so what? A Prius gets better mileage than a Cadillac, but some people prefer the comfort of a caddy to the better gas mileage of a smaller car. The important thing to know is that both running barefoot and in shoes that work for a given runner are equally valid ways of exercising by running. Trying to spin it any other way is just, well, spin.

Meanwhile, barefoot remains healthy, natural and free. Check out “The Barefoot Book” by Daniel Howell to learn more.

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Moobs Johnson

March 29th, 2012
7:47 am

Not only do I like to run barefoot, I like to runs sans all clothing.

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Greg

March 29th, 2012
8:29 am

I’m not clear on why this even has to be such a religious-style debate. I run barefoot or in vibrams and do enjoy it, yes. But I only talk to people who ask me about it when they see me running or who, like me, found themselves suffering from running injuries to the point that they might have to give it up.

I started exploring minimalist running because my knee was deteriorating running in traditional running shoes. And yes, got my form checked and supposedly I was doing everything “right” in the padded-style shoes. But things kept getting worse. Not wanting to abandon running because I love it so much, I started experimenting. Lo and behold, my knee started improving. It improved so much that my doctor — who had previously said that surgery would probably be necessary if I didn’t stop running immediately — said that he was surprised that this was even the same knee as the one he’d seen previously. Especially given that I’d not changed my mileage at all, just my shoes and the resulting forefoot running form.

I believe in it because it kept me from having to give up something I love. But it was tough to adjust to after 30+ years of heel striking. If you’re one of the lucky ones who never gets injured in regular shoes, you’re probably fine. But if you do get injured, especially if you develop a specific recurring injury, barefoot/minimalist might be helpful.

Now that I’ve shared my story, here’s my $0.02 about both sides…

Fellow barefooters: stop being such crazy evangelists about it. You’re making us look like a bizarre cult. Not everyone needs to do things the way we do. No amount of research, biological evidence, or preaching will change the fact that IT’S OKAY IF THERE’S MORE THAN ONE WAY TO DO THINGS. Really, it’s okay.

Regular runners: stop mocking us, rolling your eyes, or being jerky just because “it’s not for me.” You’re making fun of something that has saved my and many other runners’ bodies in profound ways, and that’s just not cool. I’ve been made fun of on race days for the toe shoes and it makes my blood boil, especially since I never said word one to any of those people.

In other words, to both sides: don’t be a jackass. Run in what works for you and let others run in what works for them and stop judging. Running races especially is about community, so make it about fellowship and not about cliques.

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Ken

March 29th, 2012
8:48 am

I view barefoot running as a therapeutic training regimen to deal with my hip, knee, shin and ankle issues, improving strength and flexibility through low impact but slow running. For anything longer than 3 or 4 miles, I. Wear Vibrams or Nike Free. I am not tempted to run a road race barefoot though perhaps someday I could try it

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Jennifer

March 29th, 2012
9:33 am

That is the most ridiculous study and I think it is also ridiculous that you are basing your opinion of barefoot running on this…why would you put weight on bare feet? This makes absolutely no sense…it’s like saying Person A will run 13 miles with a weighted vest and Person B will run 13 miles without a vest – which one will use more energy???

Greg…I love your points.

I personally do not run barefoot but I run in a minimal shoe that allows my foot to act like a foot: Vibram FiveFingers®. At the end of the day, if you don’t start using your feet…whether you are running or working out – you will become a horrible statistic at the age of 65. If you can’t spread your toes you are in BIG trouble and it is IMPOSSIBLE to do this without being barefoot or in a show that allows your toes to move freely.

Stacey Lei Krauss is brilliant and has GREAT tips on barefoot training: http://www.willPowerMethod.com – educate yourself and try something before making a judgment Yvonne.

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Barry Combess

March 29th, 2012
11:02 am

I take exception with your “Twilight” statement. When asked about the “Barefoot” debate I reply that there is no debate, the press is looking for a debate. I won’t debate this issue, I could say you want to be a sissy and strap leather, plastic, and any other petroleum products that they can come up with around you feet and I prefer to man up and run tough. But I won’t. I’ll just stick to pointing at my feet and saying “fun” and to your super absorbant ortopedic monsters and say “work”.
Why would someone want to insult a large group of people, who mean no one any harm, who just want to excerise and have fun doing it? I think you are petty and a bore. You just made a lot of people spit on the ground at the mention of your name. Congratulations.

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richard

March 30th, 2012
2:48 pm

Any study with 12 participants should be highly suspect. It’s simply impossible to draw broad conclusions from such a small sample. Replicate the study with 1200 runners and then maybe you’ll get good data. Beyond that, beyond professional runners, who really cares if you are 4 percent less efficient in your running? Is efficiency the goal of most runners? I doubt it. How does 4 percent less efficiency affect your cardiovascular health, the enjoyment of running with friends, or the pleasure of being outdoors and having the physical ability to move your butt?

I ran for almost 30 years with a “heel strike” form, suffered from numerous bouts of plantar fasciitis and knee pain, and chronic back pain. My doctor, unhelpfully, told me to just stop running, and I have for the last three years. Within the last few months, however, I’ve started running again with a “forefoot strike” or barefoot style (though I am wearing a pair of Altra Adam zero drop shoes, with no cushioning).

The transition period is taking a while (that is, my distances are quite short for now, but slowly getting longer), but I can already tell the difference. No back pain, no knee pain, and my legs feel like they have energy for the first time in years. I can’t tell you how exciting it is to realize that I can continue to run.

The “debate” is not about shoes vs no shoes, it’s about form–heel strike vs. forefoot strike. I don’t know if I’ll ever run barefoot, it’s just not that meaningful to me. But re-teaching my body how to run with a forefoot strike is making all the difference.

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Brenda

March 30th, 2012
3:36 pm

I love my minimalist shoes…mainly for the fact they totally took away my piriformis syndrome which totally debilitated me when I wore ‘regular’ running shoes. I don’t think I am any faster, just in lots less pain.

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Adam

April 4th, 2012
9:18 pm

Nuun, no calories, light pleasant flavor,mexcellent hydration.

If not needing such a dose of electrolytes, their vitamin version, ginger orange is great.

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william blount

May 11th, 2012
6:31 am

For the last two years, I have worked at a “standing desk”. I am an exploration petroleum geologist and I work at a work station al day. I only sit at meetings 1/3 of the time. One warning though, it reduces your recovery time. Last year, I was in a very rigorous running and program and after four months of that I got a tibial stress fracture that kept me out of running for six months. Still, I believe the “standing” desk has really improved my endurance. After running for only a month, I recently completed a Sprint Triathlon and did every part faster, including the run on a day 3 degrees hotter. See you on 7/4/12.

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Christy

May 11th, 2012
8:19 am

Of all of the photos in the world that you could pick of two people sitting, I’m still trying to figure out why you would use a photo of Fabio Capello and Stuart Pearce. RANDOM. But, a good laugh for the day.

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25 Peachtrees in A Row

May 12th, 2012
12:46 pm

Christy, inquiring minds want to know: how the heck did you know who they are?

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Christy

May 14th, 2012
8:29 am

They are pretty famous, especially to anyone who follows international soccer. Google ‘em.

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Lachacha

May 15th, 2012
8:43 am

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PRR Vet

May 25th, 2012
3:29 pm

The loop directly around the park (golf course, tennis courts, ball fields) is 2.5 miles and all sidewalk. If you can get a parking space on Wieuca it’s very convenient, scenic, and safe.

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Dr. Warren

May 26th, 2012
12:01 pm

Is there an editor in the house? The writing here is awkward and not professional.

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prr vet

May 28th, 2012
7:49 pm

Dr.warren, what do expect uga grads?

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Kenneth Vinson

June 1st, 2012
8:04 am

It’s simple! In my 25 years of life I’ve wanted to do it, but i never have. What better time than the present?! And what better time to start than at my quarter century?! Let’s goooooooooooooooooooooooooo!! ATL!

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Kenneth Vinson

June 1st, 2012
8:05 am

It’s simple! In my 25 years of life I’ve wanted to do it, but i never have. What better time than the present?! And what better time to start than at my quarter century?! Let’s goooooooooooooooooooooooooo!! ATL!

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Sonny

June 1st, 2012
8:07 am

Missed running the PRR for the first time in 6 years due to the birth of my son. I’d like to restart a new streak.

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Dawg Runner

June 1st, 2012
8:08 am

The Peachtree Road Race is the greatest 10K in America! My training tip is to get off the couch and build up to running at least 5 miles by July 1 – if you can me it that far the adrenaline of the crowds on Peachtree and at Piedmont Park will pull you through to the finish!

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Annie

June 1st, 2012
8:09 am

Haha I’ve typed this twice already. Third time’s the charm? New runner, first two 5ks this spring, time to upgrade to 10k. I’ve heard amazing things about the PRR (thousands of people, running through Buckhead, etc.) and would love to experience it for myself (with my husband too).

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lacy

June 1st, 2012
8:10 am

After 3+ years of running and weightloss, the PTTR would be my greatest challenge!

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Danielle

June 1st, 2012
8:11 am

I was not selected in this year’s lottery but would love to run! My running tips? Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate! Additionally, find a partner to do your long runs with. That person will keep you motivated and accountable. Happy training to all!

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Matthew

June 1st, 2012
8:13 am

It’s been a yearly occasion for me since I started running to get into better shape in 2005. Missed last year, and I would really love to get back into it this year.

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Cassandra

June 1st, 2012
8:14 am

Im a college student who recently completed 2 5Ks. I know the importance of exercise as a student of health and exercise myself. I would like to add this achievement under my belt — enjoy runnning i want to be part of the tradtiional annual Peachtree. :)

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Ramya

June 1st, 2012
8:17 am

I want to win these numbers so my husband can run his 10th PRR successfully! We didn’t get through the lottery this year (very surprisingly!) but would love to run! The PRR is one of the “funnest” races I have ever run! The energy there is unbeatable!

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Two Eyes

June 1st, 2012
8:18 am

I missed out on the lottery this year but would LOVE this chance from the AJC to win a place in The Peachtree Road Race! I need to lose some weight and knowing I have to train for this race would be a great motivator. Thanks!

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Liz

June 1st, 2012
8:19 am

Because running the Peachtree Road Race is a great tradition, and my 15 year old daughter and I have run it together the last 5 years, and we want to continue our tradition! (It’s also a great mother/daughter bonding time!)

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Stephanye Peek

June 1st, 2012
8:19 am

This is my 30th Peachtree Road Race. My son Jonathan, who is now 27, ran his 1st Peachtree Road Race 17 years ago with me and it would be great to have him run my 30th ! He has been training and he is ready to go!
This will be my 22nd year to serve as a volunteer!
Run Happy!

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RM

June 1st, 2012
8:20 am

Pick me! Pick me! Last year was my first Peachtree. I’m from Texas and my husband is from Georgia. I got into running and racing and my husband said I HAD to do this race, so we flew out last year from Texas. The race was AWESOME and SO MUCH FUN! We recently moved to South Carolina and I didn’t think we’d be settled enough to be able to go to the race this year, so I didn’t enter and I’ve been kicking myself ever since! I would love to run it again, so please pick me! I only need one entry as my husband is a spectator, so I would vote to give the other entry to Kenneth Vinson – first poster above! :) Happy running everyone!

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Carl White

June 1st, 2012
8:24 am

Bucket List : 1. Win a pair of AJC Peachtree Road Race numbers! 2. Give them to someone who actually likes to run 3. Sleep late the day of the race 4. After waking up have a bloody mary with my chicken and waffles while checking to see who won the race

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Briana

June 1st, 2012
8:25 am

Last year was my first Peachtree. I’m addicted. I’d love to make it an annual event!

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Stephanie

June 1st, 2012
8:26 am

This is one of the great things about Georgia! The spirit and energy of running the Peachtree Road Race is the best! I love it! No matter how many times I run it, it always gets better and better. Can’t wait to hear from you!

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Christina

June 1st, 2012
8:27 am

I made a committment to be healthier and put myself up for a running challenge. In one years time, I have done 10 5ks, 2 10ks, 1 4 mile race and 4 half marathons. I never thought I would even do one, and looking back to all I have accomplished it makes me feel proud to see how far I have come. My running has even inspired my friends to get out there and run too and do races. That’s what I think is the best part of putting yourself out there. That’s something I had not even thought of at first, but if my hard work has inspired others to do the same, I think it’s great! Knowing that has made me even be more accountable as I want to be that example and continue to be that inspiration. :-)

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Reid Burdge

June 1st, 2012
8:27 am

My son and I would love to run with my wife. She has got us running but never thought we could go six miles, 2 weeks ago just finished 4.5, so am pretty sure we can do the six. I have let the fear of not being able to finish let me miss one of the greatest Atlanta traditions. Thank you for the opportunity to enter when I thought we would never be able to get a number at this late hour.

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Roger Jones

June 1st, 2012
8:28 am

Chicks dig me, because I rarely wear underwear and when I do it’s usually something unusual. But now I know why I have always lost women to Peachtree Road Race runners like you. I mean, it’s not just the uniform. It’s the stories that you tell. So much fun and imagination.

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Terence

June 1st, 2012
8:28 am

You have to be crazy to want to run A 10K in the ALT on the 4 of July. Well, I am crazy.

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KERunner

June 1st, 2012
8:28 am

I did the PRR as my first race a couple of years ago and it was amazing! It pushed me into running 5 & 10ks all the time. Then I got injured and couldn’t run for awhile. Now I’m getting back into shape to join the Navy Reserve this fall and I would love to have a goal to shoot for. Thanks!

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MG

June 1st, 2012
8:29 am

Not long after the Peachtree last year, I got into a bad bicycle accident that damaged my ankle pretty bad. I just started back running in February with the goal of running the Peachtree again this year.

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Nicole Blanks

June 1st, 2012
8:29 am

I ran in 2009 and had a ball. Now I would like to run with my husband for our one year anniversary. I entered both of us in the lottery; he got picked, I didn’t :-(

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Melissa

June 1st, 2012
8:32 am

I started running in January of this year. Since then I’ve lost 25 lbs and have run several 5k races. I’ve gotten addicted to running, and it’s boosted my confidence like crazy. Running the P’tree would be an awesome chance to push myself to the next level. Definitely itching to do this!

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Robbie Armstrong

June 1st, 2012
8:35 am

I have tried off and on to get in the Peachtree for several years now. Must be bad luck, because I have never been selected. I’ll give it another try. If I don’t get in, good luck to all the runners this year! Have fun!

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BOB RODGERS

June 1st, 2012
8:36 am

I am an avid runner after 2 cardiac arrests! Peachtree has inspired me to run! I have ran each morning since 1994 when I had my first attack! Peactree is so enjoyable and at 70 I am still enjoying seeing my old friends and talking about and sharing previous experiences of the Peachtree Road Race!!

Thanks Peachtree Staff for an exciting experience!!

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Dudley Pryor

June 1st, 2012
8:39 am

I ran the Peachtree last year with my son and his fiance. We had a fantastic time and promised each other that we would run together again this year. Unfortunately, we only landed one race number in the lottery. Thanks for the opportunity to win two race numbers through this drawing!!

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G Davis

June 1st, 2012
8:40 am

I ran last year and the support from 100,000 spectators is amazing, like a rock star on stage with 60,000 others. Love it!!!!

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Southern Belle

June 1st, 2012
8:43 am

I would love to win this for my husband. He just completed a weight-loss journey, losing 100 lbs. through Weight Watchers and running. Two weeks ago, he tested for his Black Belt in Tae Kwon Do. I’m so proud of how hard he worked to accomplish this goal. It would be a blast to do the Peachtree together to celebrate!

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Kmaria

June 1st, 2012
8:43 am

After losing young friends to heart attacks, my husband and I have made it our mission to lead a healthier lifestyle. We’ve changed our diets, incorporated better habits, and excercised. To date my husband has lost over 30 pounds in just 5 months! Would love to cap off our six months of living a longer life together by running the race! Good Luck everybody!!!

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Old School

June 1st, 2012
8:43 am

The first time I ran the Peachtree I registered the day before and there were only 15000 runners.

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Phil

June 1st, 2012
8:44 am

I run, therefore I am. I would like to be on July 4th.

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Maurice

June 1st, 2012
8:47 am

Looking to run my second Peachtree Road Race and hopefully be able to run it with my girl.

Good luck everyone!

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Amayou

June 1st, 2012
8:48 am

I ran while I had a cold one year, it added 15 minutes to my run. You can still participate but slow down or walk when you feel it’s getting too tough, no race is worth passing out and injuring yourself or others.

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Antonio

June 1st, 2012
8:48 am

I’ve finally reached my 10k goal time and want to test it out at the Peachtree.

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Chelsey

June 1st, 2012
8:49 am

I’ve been running for about 8 years but recently was diagnosed with a bulging disc in my lower back. Bummer huh?? Through physical therapy, LOTS of stretching and great friends, I finally was able to start running again !!! It’s a slow process but I’ve been wanting to run the Peachtree for the last 4 years but couldn’t because of the chronic pain in my back… I’m ready to try this year !!!!! As a famous man once said “if you have a body, you are an athlete.” – Bill Bowerman (creator of Nike) an I’d love to add “…no matter how bruised and battered you are!!”

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Bill

June 1st, 2012
8:51 am

I’ve always enjoyed running the PRR because of the crowds and overall regalia of the day and since we’ll now be in town this year I’d love to get out there and enjoy those 6.2 miles with the other 60,000 runners! Thanks for another chance to win a number!!

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Kelly

June 1st, 2012
8:51 am

After rehab for a bad ankle, back and hip, I’m ready to take on the glorious Peachtree once again!

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Donna

June 1st, 2012
8:52 am

I need these numbers for my boyfriend. He didn’t get in for the first time in 7 years and his birthday is next Friday!

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Christa

June 1st, 2012
8:52 am

Didn’t win numbers through the lottery, and appreciate the opportunity to win through your lottery. Thanks!

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Nikki

June 1st, 2012
8:53 am

I am 40 years old, born and raised in Atlanta, and have never run the PRR. I would love for this year to be my 1st Peachtree Road Race!!!

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fairburn1

June 1st, 2012
8:54 am

Yeah,Yeah, When i walk on by, girls be looking like damn he’s fly….Im sexy and i Know it!

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Robbin Clancey

June 1st, 2012
8:54 am

I have run the PRR the last 2 years. I really wanted this to be something I do every year until I am too old to run anymore and then I will walk it! I love everything about the race…the people the environment and the unbelievable sense of accomplishment I feel from it!

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Dan

June 1st, 2012
8:55 am

still want to run the peachtree with my brother

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Gus

June 1st, 2012
9:01 am

I want to run with my 12 year old daughter…and watch her beat Antonio (above)!

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Beth Ann

June 1st, 2012
9:01 am

I think you should pick me to win the Peachtree numbers. Just like Forrest Gump, I got up one morning about four years ago and decided to run. While I didn’t get up and run around America, I did get up and run close to a half mile. It also help me discover why running and smoking don’t go hand in hand. So I don’t smoke. Now I run. Sometimes I run very well. Sometimes I run very bad. But it doesn’t really matter because I feel so cool everytime I roll out of bed at 5am and go..rain or shine.

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leigh anne

June 1st, 2012
9:01 am

would love, love to run Peachtree this year!!

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Danielle

June 1st, 2012
9:02 am

I’m a breast cancer survivor, who as a result have gotten excited about my personal fitness. I’ve completed a 5K and would love to do a 10K!

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Tommy Triplett

June 1st, 2012
9:05 am

I have run PRR for the past 12 years and loved every step of the way. In January I was hospitalized with a serious case of pneumonia. For a while I wondered if I would ever run again. At the time of registration I didnt not feel as if I would be able to run it BUT thanks to good doctors and great friends that have motivated me along the way (friends who are running PRR as a team without me) I am back and running again. I have forgotten how to spend a 4th of July without thousands of my best friends.

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MattF

June 1st, 2012
9:05 am

I want to run in my first Peachtree Road Race!

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Matt Franklin

June 1st, 2012
9:06 am

I have never run this race before and really want to try it. I just finished my first triathlon and LOVED it! I have got the bug now!

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Rick

June 1st, 2012
9:06 am

Wilson

June 1st, 2012
9:07 am

Andy Boy

June 1st, 2012
9:07 am

Im feeling lucky.

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JT

June 1st, 2012
9:08 am

I’d love to run with my wife who got a spot through the lottery.

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Stella Cress

June 1st, 2012
9:09 am

I want to run with my sweet 17 yr old cousin who is visiting from Colombia. I got her started running and she loves it. She is as addicted as I am. What an amazing experience it would be for her to run on the 4th of July in ATL!!! This would be such a special experience for us – on a perfect day and perfect city!!

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Shane

June 1st, 2012
9:14 am

My wife and I are trying to get back in shape after having our first child a few months back. This will allow us to have some time alone to accomplish the goal of getting in shape.

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Erin

June 1st, 2012
9:15 am

I really enjoy to run and have been trying my darndest to get my boyfriend to run with me! I think the Peachtree would inspire him/kick-start his running habits since it is such a high energy race with lots of supporters along the way! I ran the Peachtree one time about 5 years ago with my father and it was an amazing experience. I would love to experience the Peachtree “high” again and hopefully get the chance to show my boyfriend that running can be fun!!

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Cat

June 1st, 2012
9:16 am

Would love to surprise my fiancé with numbers since he’s run it the last 7 years but didn’t get chosen in the lottery this year!

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Carl

June 1st, 2012
9:17 am

My best running friend and I BOTH didn’t get in through the lottery this year. We keep holding out hope that we’ll both get numbers…I’d love to surprise her!

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Martha O'Brien

June 1st, 2012
9:18 am

Lost 45lbs because of running!

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Bryan

June 1st, 2012
9:20 am

Pick me please!

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Running Fool

June 1st, 2012
9:20 am

The greatest street festival and summer Atlanta tradition, with a l’il race thrown in? What’s not to love!

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Lisa

June 1st, 2012
9:20 am

To celebrate winning, I would buy a new pair of racing flats!

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Josh

June 1st, 2012
9:21 am

I’ve run hundreds of races across the country. This one is my favorite. I’ve never found another race with better crowd support, yet also provided enough space to actually run (by use of qualified corrals and wave starts).

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GlennA

June 1st, 2012
9:22 am

Shoes laced, fingers crossed, hoping for a run on July 4th in Atlanta . . .

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Diane Bryant (TEAM BRYANT)

June 1st, 2012
9:22 am

Last year I ran my first Road Race to celebrate turning 40. I was engaged at the time however, my fiance did not have the opportunity to run with me. We are now married!!! We have six kids, and one grandson. With life being so busy we missed deadlines for registration. We have been working out and would love our family to see us complete the road race TOGETHER!! We would celebrate by having a traditional 4th of July Celebration with family and friends. Please pick us… It would also make for a wonder Father’s Day gift to the hubby!! Thank you!! GO TEAM BRYANT!!!!!

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