Forget global warming, ‘Little Ice Age’ to begin in 10 years

Global warming may mean beachfront property in Macon someday, but the Earth may have to go through a cold spell first.

Polar bears would have plenty of good eating if they'd made it to London during the late 1600s.

Polar bears would have had plenty to eat if they'd made it to London during the late 1600s.

Fox Nation sums up the complicated science with this low-key headline: Global Warming Be Damned, We Might Be Headed for a Mini Ice Age

According to the pocket-protector crowd at the annual meeting of the solar physics division of the American Astronomical Society, the sun, due to reduced sunspot activity, is going to be a bit cooler soon.

When? Maybe as soon as 2021, or never.

How much cooler will the Earth get if sunspot activity decreases? No one knows exactly, but probably a fraction of a degree Celsius, which probably isn’t enough to lure another NHL franchise to Atlanta.

But, the last time such a thing happened, in the late 17th Century, the good folks of London were ice skating on the Thames and villages in the Swiss Alps were destroyed by expanding glaciers.

Wired Magazine throws ice water on the heated discussion with this exciting headline: Sunspot Drop Won’t Cause Global Cooling

At most, reduced sunspots will offset rising global temperatures for a few years, perhaps a couple decades, said NASA climatologist David Rind in the Wired article.

“To point to this as something that could in any way ameliorate greenhouse gas warming is folly,” said climatologist Michael Mann of Penn State University.

I guess I’ll keep the snow skis in the attic.

117 comments Add your comment

Observer

June 16th, 2011
8:16 am

Puh-lease people!! Global warming has proven to be a farce. The ‘warmers’ have even given up the gig and decided now to call it ‘climate change’ so that ANY time ANY weather is out of a normal spring day; they can point to the evil humans (Americans only of course because we know they are the ONLY ones who actually polute!LOL) as causing this ‘earth destroying’ weather.

I have a new theory. The only global warming going on is caused by all the hot air these idiots spew out! Weather operates in CYCLES. There are mini patterns of about 11 year intervals over stamped by larger cycles of a 100 years or so. This is the earth’s way of renewing itself. This has how its worked since before the dawn of man.

Do we need to control our emissions, plant more trees, conserve our resources; YES- of course. Do we need to allow our Liberal politicians to use ‘global warming’ as a means of beating America back so they can move closer to their one World Order (headed by Obama, naturally); NO WAY!!

Matt

June 16th, 2011
8:23 am

It is precisely the idiocy spewed by people like “observer” that will be the downfall of our civilization. This “move along, nothing to see here” mentality about our environment is the reason why we’ll have no effective movement towards renewable energy utilization until it’s far too late. Yes, climate moves in cycles…but those cycles aren’t moving from norm to norm as they have throughout history. Since the industrial revolution those cycles have been trending toward higher and higher temperature “norms” so we don’t get the same cooling effect as time progresses. Jeez, take a first-hand look at the science rather than listen to the Faux News “science reporter.”

craig

June 16th, 2011
8:27 am

Well said observer! The New World Order is destroying our country in so many ways right now!

Ezra

June 16th, 2011
8:38 am

Matt

June 16th, 2011
8:23 am
World War II put more smoke and dust into the air during that time period than man has put into the air his entire existance. Oh and we wond discuss volcanoes that has erupted in recent years. Go back to bed with your boyfriend and dream about your little garden paradise.

Southern Man

June 16th, 2011
8:39 am

It is precisely the parroting offered by people like “matt” that will be the demise of our economy. He is good at memorizing the ‘facts’ that he was taught but a good natural history student he is not. The planet has been much hotter without humans and it has also been much cooler without us. CO2 levels were much higher during many periods before mankind was even a tickle in a single-celled organism’s nucleus. Yes, we need to be better stewards of the planet. Yes, we could be a little cleaner with our act. But to attribute any changes over the last 100 years completely to anthropogenic causes using only about as many years worth of data is the worst type of ’science’ at all, the type that doesn’t question its results.

anotheridiot

June 16th, 2011
8:47 am

According to Mat and Observer we are all idiots, just for different reasons….idiots the same.

Why would anyone expect a civilization of idiots to survive?

Roekest

June 16th, 2011
8:51 am

Bring on the ice! It’s about time “ice” in Georgia meant frozen water and not meth.

Failbook.com

June 16th, 2011
8:53 am

George, you are clearly not a climatologist because the first thing they teach on Day 1 is that an Ice Age is defined by a period in which we have polar ice caps e.g. today.

aj

June 16th, 2011
9:01 am

It is precisely the jolting failure of the public education system that has culminated in this mind-numbing willingness to accept the fantastic and the absurd.If you think you can count on ‘fox news’ for accurate,truthful information any more than the enquirer or weekly world news,you are wrong.This is spoon fed misinformation intended to confuse and perplex.

GreatATLGuy

June 16th, 2011
9:02 am

@Observer – if you’re such a conservative, why are you reading this “liberal rag?” Isn’t that what you repub extremists call the AJC? Why don’t you go back to Fox News…. you sound like a big know-it-all jackhole who in reality probably knows nothing. Are you a scientist?

UGA 1999

June 16th, 2011
9:02 am

I bet Al Gore is shivering in his boots right now hahahahaha.

Faux Nation

June 16th, 2011
9:04 am

Ezra, please keep your homophobia to yourself.

All others, ignore climate change to our peril.

Jeff

June 16th, 2011
9:05 am

GreatATL Guy…why is it that you far lefties can’t discuss a matter that is seriously open to questioning without resorting to vile character assassination?

UGA 1999

June 16th, 2011
9:07 am

Jeff….havent you learned by now that is the only card they have? They cannot seriously discuss the issues.

Faux Nation

June 16th, 2011
9:11 am

Since when is “seriously discussing the issues” making a joke about Al Gore? And Jeff, how can you insult someone for being insulting without understanding your hypocrisy?

GreatATLGuy

June 16th, 2011
9:14 am

Jeff and UGA, how do you know I’m a “far lefty?” Isn’t that name calling, aren’t you doing the same thing here that you’re accusing me of? Pot calling the kettle black? Struck a nerve, have we? Where, oh, where, is Ronald Reagan? “Those were the best years of my life…. waaaahhhhh!”

UGA 1999

June 16th, 2011
9:17 am

Faux…..who made a joke about Al Gore….seriously I bet this news has him worried. I am sure Al is a big boy and can handle it.

UGA 1999

June 16th, 2011
9:18 am

GreatATL….atleast we agree on something, we could all use alittle more Reaganomics in our lives. Well said!

AtlSean

June 16th, 2011
9:19 am

@ Observer – Right On!!

Jeff

June 16th, 2011
9:19 am

GreatATLguy and faux nation…since when is being called far left an insult when addressing a very liberal person…read his original comment. I did not call him a jackhole or any other personally belittling name. BTW…I am not a conservative…just really dislike the incivility of the discussion.

Sid Farcas

June 16th, 2011
9:20 am

IT’S HOT AND THE ICE CAPS ARE MELTING! NO WAIT, IT IS COLD OUTSIDE AND WE ARE GOING INTO AN ICE AGE! NO WAIT, IT’S HOT AGAIN! I just love how liberals like to throw crapola against the wall and see if it sticks. These gloabal warming groups have been exposed over the last two years as the frauds that some are and some on the fact they have based their statements on false data. I am all for a clean planet and recycling everything possible but, can we do this with some common sense? I doubt it, since groups like Al Gore’s like to make it political and profitable. Seen old Al’s mansion lately in California? By the way, where has Al been hiding? Don’t see or hear much from him since Tipper dumped his rear end.

GreatATLGuy

June 16th, 2011
9:21 am

Hey FauxNation – you get it baby! Right on bro….

KK72

June 16th, 2011
9:24 am

I think global warming is caused by all the Baby Boomer women like myself who are going through menopause!

phil

June 16th, 2011
9:24 am

Global warming….such a joke that so many gobble up like so much Thanksgiving Day turkey.

We just had our coldest winter in 30 years.

While at the beach the other day, I wasn’t stunned to see that the depth of the ocean hasn’t changed since last summer. Or from 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005, 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001, 2000, 1999, 1998, 1997, 1996, 1995, 1994, 1993, 1992, 1991 or 1990.

You loony tunes out there can keep on preaching the insanity, but the ones of us with an ounce of sense aren’t ever going to buy it. Understand?

That said, reducing pollution and so forth has obvious health benefits. I’m all for it. But let’s quit trying to claim the end is at hand because it’s too hot.

Thrash

June 16th, 2011
9:28 am

There is global warming but man is only responsible for 10%, the other 90% is from sources we could not beging to affect regardless of our actions.

UGA 1999

June 16th, 2011
9:29 am

Phil…..AMEN!

Rob

June 16th, 2011
9:35 am

Observer… I was with you all the up to your Obama point. How in the HELL did you manage to put his name in it? He wasn’t even around when global warming, now this proposed global cooling was even a topic. There were plenty of Presidents before him. I guess Obama had this planned since birth.

Babs

June 16th, 2011
9:37 am

People like us (Observer) read the liberal rag in order to know what the other side is spewing. If you don’t know both sides of an issue, then you can’t be intelligent enough to discuss it. For all that refer to FOX News as faux, do you watch it? If not, then you know not of what you speak. The old saying regarding keeping you enemies closer rings true. If you keep your head up your b*%&, then you don’t have an argument one way or the other nor any credibility.

UGA 1999

June 16th, 2011
9:40 am

Rob….because Obama has supported the Global Warmning claim since its inception. He has attempted to impose federal regulations on everything from what we drive to what we consume to reduce “Global Warming”.

What about the future generation?

June 16th, 2011
9:45 am

Giant selfish and squid are taking over the ocean and the rising temperatures are perfect breeding for them in the warm waters. Polar ice caps which help absorb the suns heat are melting. Trees which release oxygen through photosynthesis are being destroyed (here in Atlanta 200 acres a day) especially the rainforest in South America. April was the worst month for natural disasters in American history with each one causing over $1 Billion in damage.80 degree temperatures in April, or a freeze No spring or fall weather in Atlanta for the past few years it is either extremely cold or hot.90+ degrees everyday in June, severe drought wildfire in AZ, floods up North. The climate is changing, and it gets worse daily. Not to mention all the animals that are necessary for food chains becoming endangered or extinct. The government needs to start caring more about the environment not oil, money, greed, and stealing Earth’s natural resources.

Vincent Kosik

June 16th, 2011
9:47 am

How can Global warming be “proven to be a farce”?
This comment displays the lack of education and understanding by the public in general.
I am not a scientist or a science major.
I have, however, takin the time to study both sides of the issue and have read the accounts of the principle and evidence of the changes will are causing.
One of which is “Ocean Acidification”. That, without a doubt, is caused by our immense output of fossil fuel burning. Our carbon is being absorbed by ocean waters and this lowers the ph value, it becomes less alkaline or more acidic. Just the same as testing a pool water the ph value has great influence on marine life. It has become 30% more acidic since our industrial age started.
This will create conditions that will make it difficult to form hard shells and others reprofuce. This has happened so quickly these life forms will not be able to adapt.
So, folks I come in contact with that doubt the science, this is ONE that is proof we must stop using the atmosphere as an open sewer!
Forget about the climate, weather, it is not the overriding concern. Without a ocean that supports life, we ourselves will not live!

Oh Please!!!

June 16th, 2011
9:48 am

So it’s back to another coming Ice Age. I remember the hysterical clamoring of impending doom from dropping global temperatures back in the 1970’s. And, of course, it was due to the wickedness of Man.
Then comes Global Warming. These wicked, evil humans are destroying the planet by driving SUV’s. More hysteria.
Now it’s “Climate Change.” Seriously, “Climate Change”?!? What, we know there is a problem and we know the cause is man made, we just don’t know whether it is Global Warming or another global Ice Age. But we do know it’s those wicked humans that are the cause.
Since I’m no scientist, would some of you “Climate Change” experts please answer a few questions for me?
1. What is the correct temperature for the planet? That way I’ll know if we are running a fever or if we have the chills.
2. How much of the global heat is from the Sun, how much is from the Earth’s core, and what is the normal amount of heat generated by each? This will help me know how much influence on global temperatures are not caused by the environment.
3. Since “greenhouse gases” are the villains in the Global Warming crisis, why are we not hearing more about methane gas as the source rather than CO2? The answer to this will let me know if we need to do something about cow farts (a major source of methane gas). Plus, I can make a fortune selling bumper stickers while saving the planet: Stop Global Warming – Eat Meat.
If you can’t answer these questions, please feel free to call me all sorts of names.

UGA 1999

June 16th, 2011
9:49 am

Vincent…..do you realize with every point you just attempted to make there are thousands of scientist to prove the very opposite? Great job.

Jim Pettit

June 16th, 2011
10:12 am

The problem started when you went to Fox Nation for a summary of the “complicated science”. The fact is–as anyone who has listened to actual scientists over the past few days, instead of denialists–the sun has been at a relatively low level of activity for many years now, yet the warming has accelerated. That’s because the greenhouse warming effects of CO2 are roughly 10 times more powerful than the cooling effects of a “weakened” sun. There’ll be no “mini- ice age”, nor even any cooling; GW will continue, unabated.

UGA 1999

June 16th, 2011
10:14 am

Jim Pettit…..havent you guys figured out that the climate is cyclical? Look at the climate in terms of hundreds or thousands of years. Instead you guys only look at the last 15. Absolutely hilarious!

The Jay

June 16th, 2011
10:17 am

I see the results of Georgia’s top notch education system and superb science skills are hard at work on this message board. *sigh*

GreatATLGuy

June 16th, 2011
10:19 am

@Babs — I do watch Faux (oops, I mean Fox News) to get both sides …. but I am wondering why they represent the minority, I guess all us “lefties” are wrong and Faux (I mean Fox) is right. Why was Glenn B. cancelled? I guess I don’t get it and have my head up my #$%$%& like you said.

Rob Woodall wants you to keep paying for his healthcare, while you pay for your own healthcare, and help your elderly parents pay their healthcare

June 16th, 2011
10:19 am

There are NOT thousands of scientists to prove the opposite. There are a few discredited flat-earthers who are given a platform by Glenn Beck to spew their lies. Their claims are not supported by valid, peer-reviewed research.

Just because someone says “Its a fact, the Tooth Fairy is real. Look it up”, doesn’t really make it a fact. It is a trick that politicians and TV talking heads like to use. The point is, you are supposed to actually look it up and figure out when they’re lying to you.

UGA 1999

June 16th, 2011
10:23 am

Rob….OH I get it now….if someone disagrees with your theory it is nonsense? I got it now haha. When you worship Al Gore do you do it while facing Mecca?

GreatATLGuy

June 16th, 2011
10:26 am

UGA and his character assasinations again…

UGA 1999

June 16th, 2011
10:28 am

Hey Lefty’s look at this chart and then come back with your thoughts. As a matter of fact the climate now, historically speaking is “normal”. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK…

http://www.longrangeweather.com/global_temperatures.htm

UGA 1999

June 16th, 2011
10:28 am

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Nimrod

June 16th, 2011
10:46 am

I drive a gas guzzler. And the only thing better than blowing hippies off the road would be mowing them down.

Rob Woodall wants you to keep paying for his healthcare, while you pay for your own healthcare, and help your elderly parents pay their healthcare

June 16th, 2011
10:47 am

Here is a link to scholarly articles on the topic. Assuming you actually did attend classes at UGA, and not just the LSU game, in 1999 I won’t bother to explain why these links are more valid than something that Fox or a blogger will put out on the Interwebs.

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=climate+change+peer+review&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart

UGA 1999

June 16th, 2011
10:49 am

Scooter

June 16th, 2011
10:50 am

Unfortunately too many people will not believe anything until self-serving politicians tell them the “truth”.

UGA 1999

June 16th, 2011
10:50 am

Rob, I have read most of those articles in the past. The fact is that most of them are nothing more than opinions. You must look at the historical evidence regarding the climate. Do you remember about 25 years ago everyone thought we were heading into another ice age?

UGA 1999

June 16th, 2011
10:51 am

Scooter….right like all politicians tell the truth. For evidence that refutes that arguement just watch Obama the next time he makes a speech.

UGA 1999

June 16th, 2011
10:51 am

BTW Rob, When did I ever mention FoxNews?