Licking and twerking: Should concerts have ratings for parents?

A friend and her 13-year-old daughter are debating whether concerts should have a rating system or warnings like albums, video games and movies.

The Daily Beast looked specifically at Miley Cyrus’s Bangerz tour.

From The Daily Beast:

“Miley Cyrus’s Bangerz tour kicked off in Vancouver on Valentine’s Day. While critical reviews have been mixed, there is universal consensus that the 21-year-old pop star’s biggest tour to date is pushing the boundaries of age appropriateness.  Between skin-laden video montages, mocking oral sex on a man in a Bill Clinton mask, on-stage masturbation, and grinding with her back-up singers, it’s a tween parent’s worst nightmare.

“In response to that bad trip, parents are walking out of the show, 9-year-olds in tow, flooding Cyrus’s record company with complaints and calling for the entire tour to be cancelled. While that is not likely to happen, her record label and tour staff have been discussing ways to tone the show down. If they’re not able to rein in Miley, it’s possible that the Bangerz tour could be the catalyst for a concert-rating system, similar to what exists for albums, movies and video games….

“While it’s fair to ask how any parent buying Miley Cyrus tickets wasn’t aware of the less-than-innocent headlines she’s been generating over the last six month, it’s clear that some did not.  In the age of multimedia overexposure, such cluelessness makes clear that the burden of notification rest with the maker of media, not the consumer.”

The article argues that concerts are now completely choreographed now and promoters could tell parents exactly what to expect.

The article also points out that a bad rating for an album just actually ensured that it sold more. It wasn’t death knell by any stretch of the imagination.

So should parents just know if a concert is going to be too sexy? Should concerts have a ratings system so parents can decide if they want their tween/teen exposed to simulated oral sex? Is it buyer beware or should the burden of notification be on the artists/promoters of the concerts?

40 comments Add your comment

HB

February 28th, 2014
1:25 am

Oh please. No, it’s not the industry’s responsibility to make absolutely sure that every clueless parent is made aware she hasn’t been little Miss Disney for several years now. She’s made that pretty clear to anyone not living in a cave. That’s enough notification.

Jeremey

February 28th, 2014
5:57 am

It’s a simple matter of 20 minutes of research, if that. The last thing we need is more MPAA style organizations impressing their arbitrary values on another industry. I teach seniors in high school and have some parents who have blanket prohibitions against any rated “R” movie which makes it difficult to show films with educational value, such as “Amistad”. Parents step up and do some of your own work. Look into the concert and the performer, research what a show generally looks like, and make your own decisions.

CC

February 28th, 2014
6:57 am

If you look up or listen to any of the artist lyrics and if they are not plastered in the news, I think parents can reach their own conclusion.

Mother of 2

February 28th, 2014
7:28 am

I agree with the above posts, parents need to know what they are purchasing before they make the concert ticket purchase. Really, everyone should be more responsible and not expect others to make these decisions. I learned this the hard way, as do many parents. I took my 11 year old to a PG-13 movie and was embarrassed. I had no one to blame but myself.

motherjanegoose

February 28th, 2014
7:38 am

Never took my daughter to a concert…too loud, too many people and too unpredictable. I do not even liek the crowds at Disneyworld…haha!
Give me the bad Mom award. She did get to go to Alaska and Hawaii though. She loved both trips.
We also went to a show in NYC, when I took her and a friend. She wants to take me to the Lion King at the FOX. I hope we can do it!

Seriously?

February 28th, 2014
7:48 am

Absolutely not. First, if parents are so clueless as to believe that Miley is still appropriate for a nine year old, that is their own fault/lack of judgement. Second, I really find it hard to believe that a 9 year old belongs at a concert to begin with. Let them have something to look forward to when it’s age appropriate. Most people say they want the government out of their business but then they want everything labeled/controlled/sanitized for the sake of the children. You can’t have it both ways.

Marsh

February 28th, 2014
8:10 am

The parents are the problem. Unless you live under a rock, you couldn’t expect anything but this from Miley Cyrus these days. On another note, who takes a NINE YEAR OLD to a rock concert?

The real issue here is parents being “friends” with their kids instead of parents, and the constant helicoptering by over-anxious mothers that refuse to allow kids to grow without a bed of marshmallows underneath them. Ugh.

motherjanegoose

February 28th, 2014
8:10 am

@ Seriously?…I think most people USED to want the govt out of their business but now it seems like more folks are looking to our govt for help. Folks used to work hard to take care of themselves or do without. Folks used to have common sense and I do not see much of this anymore. Scary to depend on the govt to take care of you.

Me

February 28th, 2014
8:15 am

I’m on the same bandwagon. This is the responsibility of the parents.

Real Life

February 28th, 2014
8:46 am

The government does not need to step in and take the place of clueless parents.

Techmom

February 28th, 2014
8:47 am

The only kudos I can give to those parents is if they actually are walking out of the concert. I would bet those who didn’t have a clue what the show would entail however, just sat there watching with the 9 year olds AND THEN decided they would be offended. You cannot legislate good parenting.

@Jeremey – I have an issue with parents who have blanket statements like that as well. It’s fine to say that “we have rules and on occasion we will alter them based on specific circumstances.” But some parents think it’s a slippery slope. My opinion is that there are lots of exceptions to the rules in this world and as long as you educate yourself, you should make the best decision you can given the information you have. There’s a huge difference between “Armistead” and say, “The Hangover”!

Richard

February 28th, 2014
8:49 am

How about these parents stop begging for Miley Cyrus or any other entertainer to be a proper role model and DO YOUR FRIGGIN JOB AS A PARENT!

Dave

February 28th, 2014
8:52 am

Enter your comments here

Macy

February 28th, 2014
8:55 am

No, concerts don’t need ratings, parents need brains. Just don’t take anyone under the age of 13 to a concert. It really is simple. You people make mountains out of molehills.

Again, keep your child close to you, don’t let them out of your sight. Keep them in the house so you can monitor their every move. Don’t allow them to think for themselves, and what ever you do, DO NOT prepare them for the real world. Keep them sheltered….like MotherJane Goose did. Her kids have no clue how to be social…..neither does she from the sounds of it.

Dave

February 28th, 2014
8:57 am

Everyone seems to want the governemnt to protect them from themselves these days. Drunks sue bars for selling them drinks. People sue the city for police cars hiding where they can’t see them and thus catching them for speeding. Can you people not think for YOURSELVES anymore? Take responsibility for yourselves and your children. If you go to a Miley Cyrus concert, if you expect anything other than wall to wall softcore adult stuff, then you should have your children taken from you for being a moron. You don’t need ratings. You need a BRAIN! Bottom line is…think before you act because in the end you have no one to blame but yourself. I saw a quote stating “95% of all bad situations are self inflicted.” It’s truer now than ever before.

BigBlack

February 28th, 2014
9:24 am

Miley’s all grown up now. This aint hanna montana no more. parents need to do the “research” BEFORE they go see the concert. that’s what google is for. The kids already know the score.

Personally, she’s waaaaaaay tooooo young for me. I’m an old crazy dude who thinks that good music aint been made since the 70s. BUT I applaud her business acumen. She aint as raunchy as you think. She is a smart calculating sista who knows how to git paid. while you’re complaining about her “behavior” she’s stackin them chips and sunning on HER yacht off the coast or martinique. word.

Me

February 28th, 2014
9:26 am

As a regular “lurker” :) I’m shocked at the responses to this post that agree that it’s the parents job to PARENT. Any parent taking their child to a mature concert needs a visit from social services. A 9 yr old at a Miley Cyrus concert is absurd.

Rod

February 28th, 2014
9:33 am

“So should parents just know if a concert is going to be too sexy?” – This show isn’t “sexy,” it’s “slutty,” There’s a big difference.

BTW, Macy, you need to get a life. I’m sure you’re hardly a good role model.

Logical Dude

February 28th, 2014
9:51 am

Are there age limits on plays? If so, who makes the decision on those?
There are several plays that include nudity or sexual content not advisable for children. If it plays at the FOX, who decides that it should be over 13, over 17, or any age?

The big problem is that Miley Cyrus played a character on the Disney channel, and many kids who grew up with Hannah Montana expect a kid-friendly show. Miley’s current show is similar to Madonna of the 80’s and 90’s, with sexual content and displays.
So, parents who think they are going to see Hannah Montana are shocked (SHOCKED!!!) to see what they see.

jarvis

February 28th, 2014
9:55 am

When I was 16, I went to my first real concert. Van Halen’s “For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge” tour.

A man was there with this family including younger children. Half way through the show, Sammy Hagar used the “f” work on stage. The man looked really offended and quickly ushered his family out of the show.

The show itself was literally named after the acronym for the “f” word, and this dude was offended when they used it on stage.

People are stupid.

iRun

February 28th, 2014
10:33 am

I guess we need a visit from DFACS.

When my son was 10 we took him to a Tool concert.

But we started letting him listen to Tool when he was pretty much born, so it’s not like any of the lyrics shocked him. We don’t censor much. Some, if we think it’s going to really upset him. But, otherwise, we don’t. I mean, we monitor. And if he’s exposed to something that’s iffy we have a discussion.

Also, Tool is more about Maynard singing in the shadows while a super weird video plays and lasers get crazy. Not exactly risque. Well, the videos might be called disturbing.

We all enjoyed it.

WitchyWoman

February 28th, 2014
11:57 am

I have to agree with a lot of the other posters. You should know what you are getting into ahead of time. It’s not that hard to look up an artists latest album and truthfully if you are going to the concert you usually have already bought one or two recent albums. Listen to it. Watch a video a two.

Many times people are sooo offended when in truth they are just mad cause they discovered how stupid they are.

beth

February 28th, 2014
12:10 pm

Who in their right mind would take a 9 year old to a Miley Cyrus concert??? Even my 8 year old understands that Miley Cyrus is NOT Hannah Montanna. So it’s not Miley who needs a rating… it’s crappy parents! I can’t imagine buying tickets and driving my tween to a concert without at least Googling to find out what could be expected. You would have to be living under a rock to not have heard that Miley is now a grown up and pushing the risque/taboo/raunchy lines.

I am very careful what I let my 8.5 year old listen too becuase if she likes a song, she naturally is curious about the video. I am noticing alot of times, the songs are fine… but the video is raunchy. We do not have cable television (by choice) so I can control the media content coming into the house, but she does have an ipad. Some Katy Perry songs/videos are okay. But other’s are not. The problem is, when she looks up Katy Perry to listen to her awesome song Roar…. ALL the songs/videos are available and many are not appropriate. Also, I really like the new Shakira/Rihanna song, but make a point not to listen to it with the kids around because I don’t want her looking up the video… which if you haven’t seen shows both women in various grinding positions including with each other. Also love Nicki Minage (spelling???) but don’t let my kids listen to her, because they will search out the videos which are inappropriate. So sometimes the words to songs (like Miley’s Wrecking Ball) are fine… but the video can be shocking. Same goes for concerts. Just becuase she has a couple of songs that are okay for radio play/tween listening, doesn’t mean that her concert will be appropriate. I don’t know why but it shocks me that parents have to be told to do their homework. Lazy parenting!

By the way, is it me or are kids going to concerts very young these days. I was 16 when I went to my first concert. I drove myself there! It was Bryan Adams and it was awesome! I don’t understand why parents think very young kids need to be going to concerts in the first place. I remember when Hannah Montanna came to Gwinnett arena several years ago…. parents were renting limos for 6 year olds! lmao!

MomOf2Girls

February 28th, 2014
12:37 pm

Definitely a case of caveat emptor – let the buyer beware. It’s a parent’s responsibility to make sure it’s appropriate. Research is better than a rating anyway – what is acceptable for one parent may not be acceptable to another.

This reminds me of my first Gator Growl way back when at UF. The headline comedian was Robin Williams, and since his comedy was not as well known to the general public as his role as Mork in Mork and Mindy at the time, many alumni brought their kids for some “good, clean fun”. Good was right, fun was right, clean – not so much!

Winston

February 28th, 2014
12:48 pm

I saw my first rock concert at age 14 – with a friend and no adults. Thank goodness my parents were not afraid to let me fly a little and take Marta down to the Omni. Rock concerts were much wilder many years ago with lots of drug use, a huge amount. Guess what, we turned out fine.

Anton Chigurh

February 28th, 2014
12:53 pm

I drop my 11-year-old twins off outside the venue and make sure they have cab fare for the ride home.

Kat

February 28th, 2014
1:05 pm

Until Miley gets a breast job, there will be no “mountains out of molehills.” If a parent doesn’t know who their kids are listening to, the lyrics, the dancing, etc. then they won’t go look up a rating online.

Sk8ing Momma

February 28th, 2014
1:10 pm

I see a concert rating the same as a film rating. What’s the difference?

Winston

February 28th, 2014
1:51 pm

If you want a concert rating than you would be the same parent in 1964 that thought the Beatles were destoying youth in America and would have labeled them X.

HB

February 28th, 2014
2:58 pm

Sk8ing Mom, to me a big part of the difference is the distribution and format. Live performances should not be rated because they shouldn’t be expected to be exactly the same from one night and venue to the next (although, for many performances they will be). Easier to set a rating for something that’s recorded and won’t change. How do you reliably rate something that hasn’t happened yet? Concerts also are seen by far fewer people — is it worth the bother to require ratings for what will be seen by relatively few people compared with movies that are shown on thousands of theater screens in cities large and small for weeks, followed by home viewing?

jarvis

February 28th, 2014
3:11 pm

Sk8ing Momma, for starters there is no concert equivalent of the Motion Pictures Association of America that will willing be rating the concerts.

Secondly, how would you go about rating a concert? How many should be rated? Large tours? Bar gigs? Free concerts in the park?

How about consumers learn what the product is before letting their kids attend one or not.

elgrunir

February 28th, 2014
4:08 pm

The tour is called, “Bangerz.”

Any questions?

Becky

February 28th, 2014
5:24 pm

Well, guess I’m a bad Nanny according to Macy and some others..I took my 11 year old Wed (yes a school night ) to see Imagine Dragons..Both of us loved the show..They have been to a few concerts..Thinking about taking both him and the girl to see Cher in a couple of months..They love her..

I, myself went to my first concert at the age of 12, went to the Omni to see The Eagles..Two months later, went to see Bad Company and Frampton..Guess that was edgy then as Bad Company and Frampton were never known as good boys..

beth

February 28th, 2014
7:03 pm

I love Bad Company and would have LOVED to see them in concert! Definitely the soundtrack to my wonder years.

DB

February 28th, 2014
9:26 pm

@Becky: Sonny and Cher was my first concert, when I was 14. My parents dropped me off at the area, and my friend’s mother picked us up. We had lousy tickets to see the show, but we had front row seats to see backstage — saw Cher fall flat on her rear tripping over one of the cables snaking around the stage, her bodyguard swooped down and picked her up and carried her back into the dressing room area — she was laughing so hard, cursing over her broken fingernail, Sonny seemed almost oblivious as he was talking to someone else very earnestly. I loved the concert.

I agree with other posters here: Anyone taking a child to a Miley Cyrus concert deserves what they get. She doesn’t care if you walk out — she’s already got your money.

Hidden Agenda

February 28th, 2014
10:59 pm

Sluts and rappers. Keep your kids away from their concerts and they will be fine. You know who they are. You don’t need a rating system.

Blair

March 1st, 2014
7:25 am

We need corporal punishment for all parents’ of the millennial generation. You’ve raised a generation of milquetoast sycophants.

mystery poster

March 1st, 2014
7:38 am

I believe it was Chrissie Hynde who said…
The rock and roll attiude is supposed to be F*** you, NOT F*** me.

Anyway, on topic, be a parent.

catlady

March 2nd, 2014
9:06 am

Parents should be parents. Know your kids’ friends. Know your kids’ interests. Know about those your kids revere (music, etc). Time does not change this. It was true in the 60s and is very true now. Stop being lazy and abdicating your role!

catlady

March 2nd, 2014
9:52 am

And, if you do abdicate, don’t expect the schools to fix it all. In fact, don’t expect the taxpayers to take care of it!