Heretical or personal choice: No turkey on Thanksgiving?

I have been threatening for the last few years not to make turkey for Thanksgiving. Michael hates turkey. He thinks it’s always dry no matter how many techniques you employ to improve the bird. He complains about it, and it’s the only food he refuses to eat as leftovers. The kids could take it or leave it, and I love the stuffing and gravy more than the bird.

Last Thanksgiving, I didn’t cook turkey because we traveled to Disneyland with my parents. We did have turkey at the princess luncheon on Thanksgiving Day.  Michael stayed home, and I think at salmon he made for himself.

This year it will just be the five of us. No family or friends coming to visit, and I think I really may NOT make a turkey

So far I have not bought a turkey. I am thinking of either roasting a chicken with extra legs  (they all love chicken legs) or maybe grilling salmon. (The Pilgrims did have fish at the first Thanksgiving.)

The advantage to the chicken is you could still do a nice stuffing and gravy. But I think the salmon seems a little more special.

Michael loves duck but it’s more complicated than turkey to make. (Sometimes I do it for Christmas dinner but it takes a long time.)

I have been told that my uncle and aunt often had lobster for Thanksgiving. So it makes me feel a little bit better about eschewing the tradition.

So what do you think: Do you always have turkey at Thanksgiving? Would it be heretical not to make it? If you didn’t make it, what would you replace it with?

72 comments Add your comment

LizBeth

November 25th, 2013
12:27 am

Since I’m just grateful to have food, it doesn’t matter what it is. Thanksgiving is in the gratitude and sharing, not the turkey.

Bobby

November 25th, 2013
6:23 am

I’m not a big turkey fan, so that’s why I love big family Thanksgivings, someone also has a ham to go with the turkey.

motherjanegoose

November 25th, 2013
6:40 am

We do love turkey. If you do not like it, then do not have it. Seems simple to me.

When we went to Plymouth and toured the Mayflower replica, my daughter and I learned several things about Thanksgiving that we did not know. YES the Pilgrims ate fish and I believe rice too.

When I was in Montana, a few years ago, we discussed Thanksgiving. One lady could not get over the fact that I had a song about Thanksgiving foods with muffins. I laughed and told her that they probably did eat corn cakes and not necessarily yeast rolls. Another told me AGHAST that her new daughter in law fixed MACARONI AND CHEESE ( homemade) for Thanksgiving. She was from South Carolina. Imagine it…haha!

TWG…I thought Italians were big on gravy…the red kind…tomato sauce. Which I do love but on pasta and not mashed potatoes. EAT WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY! Yes, be thrilled that you do have something to eat!

OFF topic…I went to the Post Office last week and saw that you can use an EBT card for stamps. That surprised me. Guess you could easily sell the stamps and use the $$$ for other things. Stupid me…I thought the EBT card was to provide food for those who need it.

a reader

November 25th, 2013
7:14 am

stamps are often needed to put on these things called envelopes in order to …. pay bills. seems like a reasonable use of an EBT card – letting folks not get their electricity / heat turned off?

And ham works great for Thanksgiving if folks are travelling (thank you Honey Baked).

And first thanksgivings … Berkeley Plantation in Virgini

HB

November 25th, 2013
7:36 am

MJG, you’re too funny. You think it’d be easy to sell postage stamps for cash? Yeah, they’re in huge demand (see usps financial woes). Can’t imagine people buying them other than for their own use like a reader said.

Theresa, definitely skip the turkey. When I was growing up, we often had smoked venison instead.

Mayhem

November 25th, 2013
7:40 am

Who says you HAVE to have turkey? Do what you want, start new traditions. Really, it’s not that complicated.

One year, we had soup for thanksgiving. We were first married, couldn’t get away for the holiday, and I did not know the grocery stores we’re red not open onThanksgiving day. Therefore, we ate what we had in the cabinets, which wasn’t much lol. We look back on that with fond memories.

It’s not what you serve, it’s who you are with! Making memories is more important!

Holden Caulfield

November 25th, 2013
7:40 am

Stamps for hard mailing bills are used by people who perhaps cannot afford a computer so they can stay warm during the winter. If you don’t give them a EBT card then they will go to the Mall of Georgia area and steal from you.

MJG – things have really changed in America since the Eisenhower era….

Atlanta Mom

November 25th, 2013
7:43 am

Whatever you decide, I think you should do it annually. It’s good to have traditions.

motherjanegoose

November 25th, 2013
7:47 am

Call me stupid. I thought EBT was designed for food, you buy and take home to eat. I guess that thought was wrong. Even restaurants take the EBT card! Someome I know saw a co worker use hers. How convenient!

How many stamps would anyone use in a month…a dozen? That is $6?

Guess that is why our church is being asked to send home back packs full of food for kids who are hungry on the weekend as there is no free breakfast nor lunch when they are out of schools. I talked to a teacher ( about this) and she said that some kids also tell adults that parents take the food from them and they are still hungry. Not sure how to fix this problem.

SO yes I say we are blessed that we are able to buy food, no matter what we eat.
Even more blessed that we can share our food with those who truly need it.

motherjanegoose

November 25th, 2013
7:53 am

@Holden…you are so correct….

“More Americans are on food stamps than at almost any other point in the past decade.”

48 million Americans!

BTW I stay away from the Mall of Georgia…I cannot afford to shop retail…I have to buy my own food. It is amazingly busy with folks every weekend and the parking lot is packed!

David C

November 25th, 2013
7:56 am

motherjanegoose
November 25th, 2013
7:47 am

And blessed to be able to bitch and moan and make judgement calls on a page dedicated to turkey or no turkey.

Holden Caulfield

November 25th, 2013
7:59 am

Mother Jane Goose, with the obsene spending on wars and many other items you tend to focus on EBT cards as outrage. I suggest when you return to church to re-read the Sermon on the Mount and focus on the phrase “Thou Shalt Not Judge”.

Call me stupid, but I though church tries to enlighten one with humility and guidance on how to help others in this terrible world. I guess that thought was wrong. Someone I know attends church all the time way out in suburbia in north Gwinnette county and yet the word has not penetrated them at all, kind of like a stone. How amazing!

How many times does one have to go to church to understand that helping the poor and not judging others is one of the key objectives towards enlightenment?

Kat

November 25th, 2013
8:03 am

Teresa – here’s a suggestion. Order turkey from one of the local places, if you have a (what is it?) Boston Market or Honeybaked Ham store there. When our parents went away one holiday – we were old enough to be on our own and they left us money for food, naturally – we ordered turkey from a place like that. It will be moist, juicy and delicious. So, we got our turkey and hung out and had a pretty darn good time. This way, you don’t have to do the work, and everyone will love the results!

Kat

November 25th, 2013
8:05 am

BTW: I didn’t know Honeybaked Ham had turkey until that Thanksgiving.

I agree with the other posters who said that it’s isn’t the food; it’s the people you share it with.

mom2alex&max

November 25th, 2013
8:10 am

As far as I can tell, there is no law that says you have to have turkey. Thanksgiving is about family, giving thanks and celebrating your blessings. The food is part of that, but I don’t think it matters what you eat. Make a chicken or a salmon or a ham or even steaks. Who cares. As long as you are together.

FCM

November 25th, 2013
8:22 am

@ TWG — According to most sources Turkey was unlikely to be have been at the Pilgrim’s Feast.

*roast duck, deer, and goose (goose was mainly for the rich in Europe so to find it wild here was considered to show that the New World held prosperity and hope).
*lobster, clams, eels, and mussels
*chestnuts and walnuts
*squash, carrots, peas, and cranberries (unlikely to be jellied)

@ MJG – Thanksgiving “staples” on the table in various areas include:

*Lasagna in NE
*Sauerkraut in Baltimore
*Key Lime Pie in FL
*Crab in MA
* Chilies in the SW
*Persimmon puddings in IN

So TWG serve what you want and be thankful that you have something to serve, plus folks to share it!

FCM

November 25th, 2013
8:26 am

@ KAt we are doing HBH Turkey this year. I talked my mom into it. Dad had surgery (yes again, and he is doing well) and we really don’t want to see me try cooking on yet. LOL.

homeschooler

November 25th, 2013
9:20 am

I think Salmon or Chicken would make a great Thanksgiving dinner.

Here is a tip though if you are set on turkey. Cook it in a crock pot. Buy a bone in turkey breast. Just like a whole turkey but they take the legs off. Inject it with some of the flavorings that are used for frying turkeys. Put celery stalks in the bottom of a large crock pot and season the outside of the turkey breasts. Let it cook on low all day. It just falls off the bone and is so moist and flavorful. I make this several times a year and usually offer to bring the turkey for work functions because it is so easy. I’ve never been a turkey lover but this is really good.

Also, I LOVE stuffing or dressing with salmon. Personally I would do Salmon and a Turkey Breast with tons of side dishes.

-off topic
MJG.. you and I are on the same page on the food stamps issue and I don’t think actual food stamps should be used for anything but foods in a grocery store. (and I wish they would limit that) However, just a little EBT education….. EBT stands for electronic benefits transfer and is not just food stamps. People who get TANF (temporary assistance for needy families) have those benefits placed on the EBT card as well. It’s basically just like a welfare check but it’s placed on a card so the money is like cash and can be used for anything. This is really not a bad thing. During the welfare reform in the 90s the policies changed and very VERY few people now get actual welfare. It’s also very little money. To qualify a child has to be without one or both parents and the other parent has to make almost nothing to qualify. An example would be a single mom looking for a job. No child support. WIth one child she only would get 235 dollars a month. It’s not enough to live on. It is also only temporary. The program works well for women or men with children who are living with family and trying to get on their feet and have no help from others. TANF also helps get people jobs and then helps if their car breaks down or with other obstacles that might hinder their progress. Like I said VERY few people qualify but it’s a good program for those who do. TANF benefits are also available to kids who are being raised by grandparents or other relatives as long as the parents are not paying child support. The other component of this is that once TANF is being received Child Support Enforcement goes heavily after the non providing caregiver and once child support is in place TANF stops. Just like people to be informed. So when you see people using EBT for stamps or diapers or clothing it’s actually just like cash.
-sorry I know that was long.

DB

November 25th, 2013
9:22 am

My kids are kinda bleh on turkey, and the only part I like is the dark meat. So for the last few years, I’ve only done a small turkey in addition to a honey-baked ham. It’s thanksgiving, a time to be thankful and enjoy your family, however you define your family. Does it really matter what kind of food is on the table, as long as everyone enjoys it? Why go to the trouble of serving food that people don’t really care for?

When we lived in Connecticut, we had a lobster Thanksgiving one year — it was wonderful!! Went down to the dock, chose the lobsters, brought them back and threw ‘em in the pot, along with a few other side dishes. Non-traditional, but oh, so fun!

mom2alex&max

November 25th, 2013
9:23 am

MJG: no offense, but for a “Christian” you are awfully judgmental. Why would you bring that up on a blog about what to eat at Thanksgiving?
For the record, I didn’t know you could buy stamps with EBT, but to me it makes sense. Stamps are needed to mail the utility bill payments. A lot of people do not have access to the internet to pay their bills on line. Or even a bank account for that matter.
I missed the memo where we are supposed to police the EBT spending habits of poor people.

Me

November 25th, 2013
9:27 am

When it comes to turkey we are also of the “take it or leave it” opinion. You certainly should feel no pressure to serve it! I willl say, however, that the lobster idea sounds really good! We are having no one home this year and aren’t traveling so we will have something fairly simple and be extremely thankful that we have our families, our health, and our Love. And that’s all I have to say about that.

Patrick

November 25th, 2013
9:32 am

If you still want turkey, but Michael doesn’t, consider getting a turkey breast. We’re doing that this year, which will be just enough to feed the four of us (my parents and I, and my biological father), with minimal leftovers. No more turkey sandwiches until we start growing waddles.

Worst yet would have to be the turkey jambalaya we had two Thanksgivings ago. My dad decided to cut up some of the turkey and put it into a jambalaya, because, hey, poultry’s poultry, right? WRONG! He did not count on the fact that turkey can be a bit saltier than chicken, especially when it had been prebrined at the processing plant, not to mention all the extra salt and seasonings rubbed on it. It was like eating a big ol’ bowl of turkey-flavored salty tomato rice. We each ate maybe half a bowl, and the rest ended up being flushed down the toilet.

beth

November 25th, 2013
9:43 am

Turkey is not my favorite either. I guess we do it out of a sense of tradition, but I would much rather have ham.

WitchyWoman

November 25th, 2013
9:47 am

We had a seafood Thanksgiving one year. Nobody wanted the ham, turkey, stuffing or mac and cheese (yes we have mac and cheese cause dang-it it goes great with ham-LOL) Anyway, it was great. We had crab, lobster, and fish along with cheese grits, and hush puppies. Everyone was happy that year and there were no leftovers.

iRun

November 25th, 2013
9:47 am

I actually like turkey. But I think it might be because I’ve learned how to make it so it’s not dry. The key is to “undercook” it. Meaning, you take it out of the oven or fryer before the thermometer says it’s ready. It will continue to cook when it’s off the heat source. But it won’t overcook and be dry. Of course, it helps to have a quality bird. And they’re not cheap.

We also do a honey ham.

We’re frying a turkey this year. A big 27lb-er!

Now, we don’t celebrate Thanksgiving as specifically American since the whole Pilgrims/Indians story is not only bogus but the truth is bloody and pretty horrible. We do celebrate it as a day to be thankful for friends, family, life, etc. And to spend time with family. And to EEEAAATTT!!!

Young Lady

November 25th, 2013
10:04 am

I wish we could have something other than turkey! But I’m trying to please relatives that may not have many Thanksgivings left so it’s a small sacrifice to make. Personally I care about the dressing and that is it!

MJG- Seriously the EBT card isn’t just for food stamps (SNAP). SSI and TANF are loaded onto the card so you have no idea what kind of benefit that person was spending. But you can’t buy stamps with SNAP. It had to be a monetary benefit and that was perfectly fine for them to do that.

Techmom

November 25th, 2013
10:32 am

We do turkey because we like it. My husband smoked it on the Big Green Egg the last couple of years and it turned out great. Added bonus: my oven is free for all the other sides. I say eat whatever you guys want. We’ve also had prime rib for thanksgiving dinner- YUM!

@MJG – I was just going to make Young Lady’s point… the EBT cards are how the state pays all benefits, not just SNAP. I believe that’s also how they pay child support if it is being collected by the state. So if you need to pay say your power bill or rent with those funds, you have to get cash out (and there’s a limit to how much you can get so you often have to do multiple transactions) and most times, those people don’t have regular checking accounts so then they have to buy money orders and mail their payments.

I get irritated about the misuse of SNAP benefits as well though and wish they worked more like WIC does with a very specific list of what can and cannot be purchased. There is a list and most grocery stores automatically calculate what counts and what doesn’t but things like sodas and junk food tick me off. I was happy to see that the local produce market near us accepts EBT- I wonder how many people go there though.

jmb

November 25th, 2013
10:53 am

We are camping for Thanksgiving and cooking a ham on the grill. None of us really care for turkey so everyones happy with the plan. I say make what your family loves best.

MJG – My daughters child support (like homeschooler said) is loaded on an EBT card until they run the daddy down to pay it. She can use it just like cash for anything. Diapers food or even stamps. You can NOT buy stamps on regular EBT food accounts so the person you saw must have had TANF like homeschooler said. Hard as it is for you to understand, many of us don’t mind sharing with the less fortunate which is why your judging somes across as so hypocritical considering you claim christianity.

ATL Born and Raised

November 25th, 2013
11:10 am

Eat whatever you want. Seriously, who cares? Just enjoy the day off. Stressing about the meal ruins the whole point.

Perkle

November 25th, 2013
11:51 am

For many years we did ham or turkey. Then we got creative because we were sick of both. Mexican, Chinese, Italian were all tried. Then when fried turkeys became all the rage, we did that for a few years. This year we are skipping even cooking, and eating out at one of our favorite restaurants instead. Just don’t have the time or energy to do all the prepping and cooking this year. We will cook for Christmas though. There is nothing wrong with switching it up.

usually lurking

November 25th, 2013
12:03 pm

I’m thankful I don’t need an EBT card for any reason. Hope that I never do. And I’m not going to judge anyone who uses an EBT card either. I’ve not walked in their shoes and don’t know their situation.

Real Life

November 25th, 2013
12:38 pm

Why does it matter what we eat. Thanksgiving is not about the meal on the table, it is about those sitting at the table. My spouse is from Europe and hates many of the traditional foods. Sweet potatoes in my home are considered grounds for divorce so we eat what makes us happy. We have been to Thanksgiving dinner at the home of a friend originally from India. He thinks Thanksgiving is the best holiday ever as it stresses home, family and friends. He and his large family are vegetarians so we dine on wonderful food without turkey, ham or anything else in sight. The point is celebrating with people who are important to us all. The food, whether traditional or non-traditional is secondary.

catmom

November 25th, 2013
12:48 pm

My mom insists on a turkey even though no one really likes it, but the past few years we’ve compromised and gotten a Honeybaked Ham for us and a couple of turkey legs for her. Problem solved. I should note that our family doesn’t eat cranberry sauce or sweet potatoes either. I say eat what you like and make your own traditions.

missnadine

November 25th, 2013
12:56 pm

Why not go out to a fancy buffet, the type from a high-cost hotel? It is expensive but the variety is great, and no cleanup or preparations for you.

ahh

November 25th, 2013
1:35 pm

I am having four Thanksgiving dinners this year. Three traditional ones with turkey, dressing, etc. The last one will be a Georgia Wilderness Thanksgiving (in the area where our ancestors settled in the 1700s). Outside cooking will include a pig, a haunch of deer, and stew.

When I was growing up in Alabama in the 1940s & 50s, we had the traditional turkey, but we always had venison, too. What a feast!

BTW–in my mother’s day, she cooked the turkey in a brown paper bag to keep it moist, then opened the bag toward the end to brown the turkey. I get the same effect by using a cook-in bag (turkey size, of course). I always get compliments on how moist the cooked turkeys are. And the turkey itself browns nicely through the bag as it cooks.

Pablo

November 25th, 2013
1:38 pm

Thanksgiving is, in my opinion, about giving thanks, not about eating turkey. So, if turkey is not your thing (it sure is for me all through the year, not just Thanksgiving Day), you’ll hear no complaints from me.

S

November 25th, 2013
2:35 pm

I did leg of lamb one year in AZ on a Weber charcoal grill – YUM! My wife suggested corned beef and cabbage for this year but my son wants our usual – one of the Asian buffets.

motherjanegoose

November 25th, 2013
4:28 pm

@ TWG…have you been to Costco? I went here in Orlando today and you can get what you want without cooking! I saw a 5 pound fresh sweet potato tray in the ready to heat up section for $8.99. No sense in fussing with peeling potatoes. They also had pumkin pie roll and pumpkin pie cheese cake. YUMMY. My daughter is doing most of the cooking or otherwise I would be shopping for my dinner at Costco! LOVE Costco!

@ miss nadine, we did the fancy buffet last year for my Dad’s 75th birthday. It was right before Thanksgiving and so we all went to FL to celebrate with him and ate at a buffet that was $35 a piece. THEY HAD EVERYTHING. We did not have any dirty dishes or fuss. It was kind of nice. We did miss the leftovers…haha!

Thanks for the clarification on EBT cards. For the record, I am a very generous person. I give thousands of dollars to charities each year. I write a check for the Atlanta Union Mission each Thanksgiving and Christmas, as I cannot imagine anyone having to spend the holiday with no food. We also support Samaritan’s Purse with livestock donations. I am all about helping people who need help. I have been to Publix and filled my cart with BOGO to take the the local cooperative.

I am simply frustrated with those who have no intention of working and prefer that the rest of us do. I have a new comment I am sharing, ” Teach your children to endure and not to envy!” In order to get ahead, there must be some perserverance. It does no good to sit around envying what others have. Get out and work for it and you might get it. That worked for my our family, as we started out in a meager trailer with a 1982 Ford Escort! Did our laundry at the laundromat, as we had no washer nor dryer. We did not even have a TV for the first 6 months of our marriage.

I love it when people spew the judge not line. This is treating the Bible like trail mix and picking out only the parts you have heard or perhaps agree with. Sometimes our idea of what the passage means is not exactly what it does mean.

I read this a while ago and found it interesting:

“It’s worth noting in passing that whatever Jesus did mean by “judge not lest you be judged,” he did not mean what leftists think he meant. The man who said, “judge not” was busy in other conversations calling the Pharisees a “you serpents, you brood of vipers” (Matthew 23:33) and children “of your father, the devil” (John 8:44). I would venture to say that anyone who calls someone else the spawn of Satan is passing some kind of judgment on them.”

If you read your entire Bible, you will find plenty of verses where Jesus condemned people or judged their lifestyle. Some Bible scholars think the meaning in judge not lest you be judged is not to judge someone else when you perhaps have the same problem in your own life. Example: me judging someone who is singing to be off tune, when I have been off tune myself. Me complaining about someone driving wrong when I have done the same thing. Me fussing about someone being late when I am late once in a while too!

This might be a verse to consider 1 Timothy 5:8

But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

Stepping off of my soapbox…haha! FYI someone here offered me a job today after I worked with the children. She said she would love for me to come and work for her.
I guess some people do like me and for that I am thankful!

Turkey-free

November 25th, 2013
4:37 pm

Our vegan Thanksgiving has always been wonderful for the past 3 decades. Certainly no reason to take an animal’s life just to be well-fed.

mom2alex&max

November 25th, 2013
4:49 pm

MJG said: “If you read your entire Bible, you will find plenty of verses where Jesus condemned people or judged their lifestyle.”

So think you are on par with Jesus now? I’m pretty sure that still doesn’t give you the right to judge and condemn people that use EBT cards and what they buy on them. I’m also pretty sure those verses are not a card blanche for you to whine and moan about what poor people (who have been deemed worthy by the government to receive them) do with their benefits.

Miss Priss!

November 25th, 2013
4:59 pm

Well … one thing’s for sure: motherjanegoose isn’t the Antichrist! Thank God!

FLNavyWife

November 25th, 2013
5:00 pm

What about roast beef or beef tenderloin? You could still do the traditional mashed potatoes and (beef) gravy. My parents did this for Christmas last year (we usually do ham or turkey for Christmas) and it was a hit…nice change of pace.

I guess I’m one of the oddballs that loves turkey. Growing up, my dad was in charge of the turkey (still is), and his are always delicious (he coats the skin in butter and seasonings, and then bastes it in more butter as it cooks:) In fact, I cooked a turkey breast just recently for my husband and myself, and made some quickie stuffing, gravy and green beans. I was just in the mood for it. We are not planning a big Thanksgiving this year…our first baby is due on Saturday and I had visions of rushing off to the hospital with a turkey in the oven! We will likely call Cracker Barrel on Wednesday and arrange for take-out, or go out to eat. It will be a quiet holiday…we are going home for Christmas, though, so that’s when I’ll get my holiday food fix (complete with adult beverages:)

Janice

November 25th, 2013
5:04 pm

Maybe you’ve been eating the wrong turkey.
Of the 242 million turkeys raised this year, maybe 30,000 of them are not the standard supermarket variety of broad-breasted whites. Heritage breeds have fuller flavor, firmer meat, and basically taste like a turkey should taste. You’ll have to seek out a heritage bird, but it’s worth it.
http://gigabiting.com/theres-just-one-kind-of-turkey-in-this-great-big-land-of-plenty/

motherjanegoose

November 25th, 2013
5:27 pm

NO…I am not Jesus…nor could I ever be. A perfect person I am not…especially when I am driving a car in traffic. I am way too impatient with those who swing 3 lanes over and cut right in front of people without a single turn signal. Unpleasant words do come out of my mouth.

Carte Blanche is the term….is it French?

I am simply not convinced that everyone who gets the benefits are getting them fair and square. This is due to the fact that I have had plenty of teachers tell me of the fraud involved in the free lunch at schools. Since I am out and about, I meet lots of different folks who tell me lots of personal stories about what is going on in their district. Of course, they themselves need to keep a job so they are not going to blow the whistle and make a stink.

My concern is that there are plenty of Americans who think they are owed things simply because they breath USA air. Some of them say that those of us who are working are the stupid people. Why work, when you can just sit home and get it for free. Yes, I have heard this. These are some of the same people who think the government is providing the money for the things they are getting. Oh yes…the government has a closet full of said money and it will never run out. Sad day when the money is gone and everyone will want to be best friends with the Little Red Hen. She may not have enough.

Fl Navy Wife…best wishes and congrats! I was once a Navy wife too!

jan

November 25th, 2013
5:38 pm

Turkey tastes like sawdust. I have had many different “Oh, you just haven’t had it fixed right” versions. It still tastes like sawdust. I absolutely HATE turkey. There I said it…. I HATE TURKEY!!!

Still, I fix turkey for the hubby and kids, who all love it.

I prefer BBQ or ham or beef roast, or even Spam or hot dogs… A bologna sandwich would be ok if it meant I didn’t have to eat turkey.

Miss Priss!

November 25th, 2013
6:14 pm

Well, Jane … I’m sure if Jesus spent a few days in Lawrenceville traffic he’d say some French words, too, but in Hebrew, I guess. Give yourself a break, you ol’ fat hick. You’re nearly perfect!

mom2alex&max

November 25th, 2013
6:47 pm

MJG said: “I have heard this.” “This is due to the fact that I have had plenty of teachers tell me of the fraud involved in the free lunch at schools.”
So that’s all it takes to convince you? People telling you they saw it? You “hearing” about it? But I guess actually doing some research, meeting the people involved, and educating yourself with 1st person accounts and actual facts might be too much to ask in order to “convince” you.

Your compassion sure is Jesus-worthy.

catlady

November 25th, 2013
6:53 pm

I think I find other ways to be a heretic. There are several traditional family things I don’t make because I don’t like it, but the turkey is important to me.

David C

November 25th, 2013
7:33 pm

motherjanegoose – the bitch that keeps on…well. Judging.

Young Lady

November 25th, 2013
9:00 pm

mom2- You have to be at least 130% poverty line to apply for the free lunch program and they do have applications with verification paperwork. If you receive SNAP you just provide the case number to the school as part of the application and they’ll contact the DFCS office to verify it’s an active ongoing case. It’s clear cut and if they’re already receiving SNAP which is a more stringent check it’s not an issue. She’s leading the question. The free lunch program doesn’t investigate it’s recipients as thoroughly as SNAP because it’s not giving money to adults. It’s giving meals to kids at school.