Braves moving: Do families want to go downtown for games/cultural events?

Growing up in Gwinnett County in the 1970s and 1980s you didn’t have much choice but go downtown for activities, and we loved going!

Going downtown was a big deal. It meant you were doing something special with your family. You dressed up and looked your best. Whether it was a Tech game and lunch at the Varsity or a Braves games with neighbors, we always loved heading downtown for special events.

I remember going to Braves and Hawks games. I remember ice skating at the Omni and going to The World of Sid and Marty Krofft in the Omni. (That was odd place!) Sometimes we drove in and sometimes we took MARTA.

I don’t think I ever went to a Falcons game downtown, but we did go downtown for a ton of cultural events.

We went to the Fox Theater frequently for plays, movies and the ballet. We would go to the Civic Center and the Alliance for performances and speeches. We also went for concerts at the Omni — including “Earth Wind & Fire.”

We always went to downtown Rich’s for the lighting of the Great Tree, Santa and the Pink Pig. We even used to shop at the downtown Rich’s because that’s where my mother grew up shopping.

It was special to head downtown as a family and enjoy an event together.

So I am wondering do families NOT want to go downtown for special events anymore? Would you rather see the Gwinnett Braves play in Buford or go to the Gwinnett Center for ‘The Nutcracker’ or to see Macklemore & Ryan Lewis or to see the Gladators play?

Do you care if the Braves move from downtown Atlanta to Cobb County? (Here’s the full story on the move.)

Is this move about convenience for the fans or is it about which city was willing to kick in more money for a new stadium? (This is an interesting map showing where Braves ticket buyers live.)

Are downtown events not “special” anymore? Does traffic just make them a pain? Do you think traffic will be better at the new stadium in Cobb?

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SEE

November 11th, 2013
7:28 pm

The last time I went to a Braves game (3 years ago), we had to park too far away and transverse what I consider a rather dubious neighborhood. The last time I was in Atlanta was to go to the Fox for my neice’s graduation. Once again, the long walk due to lack of parking and somewhat leery walk back to my car alone. So, no, I really don’t like to go downtown.

BShepC

November 11th, 2013
9:26 pm

As a Cobb county resident, I am excited about this. Leery about it in terms of traffic, but hopeful they will do the right thing and present us with something innovative. I love going to the Ted (the stadium itself is a wonderful facility) but I’ve said for years what a waste it was in that there is not anywhere to go before or after the game near the stadium. The n’hood isn’t the safest and being surround by parking lots I don’t think presents our city in the best light. Taking MARTA to the Braves makes one feel like you are living in a 3rd world country. I am also really wondering if Cobb county residents will see a hike in taxes but I do feel that the benefits outweigh any drawbacks. Done right, this can be a huge asset to Cobb. I think the Braves were tired of dealing with Atlanta politics and are simply listening to their customer base. I am interested to see how this all plays out.

Sk8ing Momma

November 11th, 2013
9:42 pm

I live in Cobb, approximately a 15 minute drive from the proposed site for the new Braves stadium. I do NOT think it is a great idea. I’d MUCH prefer it stay in downtown. I find it easy to get to events in town, because I’m a short 20-25 minute drive away from downtown Atlanta. I’d selfishly prefer to keep the traffic downtown and out of my neck of the woods. (Btw, I never run into traffic going to the current stadium. Thankfully, there isn’t any from the surface streets from my neighborhood.)

Particularly, I am NOT going to be a happy camper when I try to get to the nearby Costco (or other retailers, restaurants and movie theater in the Cobb Galleria corridor) and run into Braves traffic — Grr!! It’ll require that I keep a Braves schedule readily accessible so I’ll know when to avoid the area. Ugh!!

DB

November 11th, 2013
11:21 pm

Is this move about convenience for the fans or is it about which city was willing to kick in more money for a new stadium?

A little bit of both. The new site is going to be anchored by the new stadium, but is going to be surrounded by a live-work-play complex full of restaurants and other destinations that make a trip to the baseball game more than a quick in-and-out of an area that makes you leery and uncomfortable. I am interested in how they plan to deal with the traffic, with the lack of public transportation between Cobb County and the rest of the metro area, but I suspect that they have probably thought of that. Kasim Reed had a very sour grapes response, basically, “we’re saving the taxpayers money by not fixing up Turner Field.” Great. Wonder what they are going to be doing with that area, now?

BehindEnemyLines

November 11th, 2013
11:35 pm

Very little desire to go into the abyss that is downtown ATL at this point. The skyline is nice enough to look at but facilities are considerably more pleasant in both Gwinnett & elsewhere, often more convenient as well (especially when driving from Athens)

HB

November 12th, 2013
1:06 am

I think it’s a shame that they’re leaving Turner Field but the mayor is probably right not to spend the taxpayer money. The stadium hasn’t led to development as expected, so why subsidize baseball? Turner was one of the better stadium deals for the taxpayers. Tax funds were used for the Olympic venue, which put Atlanta on the map as a major city but didn’t bankrupt it in the process (can’t be said for all Olympic hosts), and I believe the refurb for baseball was paid for by Turner. Why throw $200 million at it now knowing how little it’s improved downtown?

I truly doubt the development in Cobb will turn out as expected. It’s happened in multiple cities — local officials are sold on investing hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars to build a shiny new park that will revitalize a blighted area or build up an underdeveloped one, bring businesses and jobs to an area, and generate tax revenue. Usually, the projected neighborhood development isn’t realized and the ballpark ends up costing taxpayers more than what they get from it. Team owners/MLB win, taxpayers lose — corporate welfare. I do believe using tax dollars to help build entertainment venues can be a good thing, but in the past 10-15 years, the public costs have gotten too high and the investment and risk assumed by private business too low.

Maude

November 12th, 2013
7:12 am

Atlanta did nothing to protect fans who go to see the Braves. The area around the Turner is one of the worse in the city. No I did not feel safe. Did I want to take the kids yes but I was still scared.

Mayhem

November 12th, 2013
7:30 am

We very rarely venture downtown anymore. Once a year for the Christmas parade (we’ve been going to that for over 35 years now), and once or twice for a Falcons game. I don’t care for baseball, and we haven’t been to a baseball game in about 5 years.

I hate what is happening with all the demands for new stadiums, like the Falcons. I think they need to bring a few more championships home, before we consider a multi-billion dollar stadium for them. The Dome is a wonderful place to see a game, and it’s only 16-17 years old.

As for the Braves, their lease with Turner Field is up in 2016 and I guess they chose not to re-lease, and spend entirely too much money to relocate. To me it’s a huge waste of money in these horrible economic times. But the Braves bring in money, so there ya go……

Anton Chigurh

November 12th, 2013
7:46 am

The WASP fear of “the other” expressed here and elsewhere is unfounded, but an economic reality as seen by yesterday’s announcement. People are people. Third World country? Really? Geez.

motherjanegoose

November 12th, 2013
7:47 am

I am not a native Atlantan, so I am not as tied to downtown.

I pass through downtown all the time but go about two or three times per year for venues..

We live close to the Gbraves stadium and it is SO much easier than going to Turner Field. I realize we are not talking about the same teams. The entire experience is a lot easier to get in and out of. The traffic can get bad but that is the same traffic to the Mall of GA and we are used to it.

@DB:” but is going to be surrounded by a live-work-play complex full of restaurants and other destinations” . They said this about the Gbraves stadium and unfortunately, that did not work out. We do have lots of apartment complexes that feed into local schools. :(

I am remembering a client I had in Nebraska, who told me her sister lived in Atlanta. I asked her wear and she excitedly told me within walking distance to the Braves stadium in a new condo complex. WOW…I hope she is not still there or that might not be as attractive as it once was.

jct

November 12th, 2013
8:13 am

I will probably not attend any games if the Braves move. I have always taken MARTA and felt save. Maybe because I live in DeKalb I don’t think that MARTA is riding in a 3rd world country. The area surrounding the immediate stadium has its issues but the area in general has had some development – new condos as well as work live space. I work downtown so I am here every day watching the changes.

I am not a native to the area but I have been here for 14 years. What I do know and why I avoid Cobb is that Cobb does not have decent public transportation. That corridor where the stadium is being proposed is already very busy. I cannot imagine what game day traffic without decent public transportation will be like. I pity the folks who live in that area.

motherjanegoose

November 12th, 2013
8:28 am

Sorry not wear but where….

I have lived here 24 years. I have taken Marta less than a dozen times and not recently. Perhaps it is a lot better than I remembered it to be. I take the rail in NYC, Boston, and DC. Anyone else? My experience on their rail, is superior to Marta.

lk

November 12th, 2013
8:30 am

Marta is clean and safe – I don’t feel uncomfortable at all. I use it to get to the airport regularly (great way to travel) and other downtown events to avoid traffic hassle. The galleria area is already congested and horrible – I try to avoid that area if at all possible now and it will only get worse. I cannot imagine what the traffic situation will be for the attendees, residents and businesses around the new stadium. I don’t plan to be part of it – I’ll be watching from my comfy seat at home.

HB

November 12th, 2013
8:38 am

My experiences on MARTA when I lived in Atlanta were fine. It was just too limited to use for much. I did use it regularly for Braves games with no problems. The E-W line was rarely overcrowded after games, but busy enough that I felt safe riding. I’ve heard the system is a bit run down now, but so is DC’s. Too much maintenance was put off for too long.

lakerat

November 12th, 2013
8:44 am

The GA Dome opened in 1992 so it is now 21 years old, and the lease is up in 2016, after the season, which is when the Falcons plan to move on to the new dome for the 2017 season…the GA Dome cost $214 mil to build, and the new one is costing almost a $1BILLION dollars more to build – still downtown.

Turner Field was a gift from the Atlanta Olympics; yes, the Braves paid to re-configure it, and they found out just how lousy the construction was, after the fact, and they have kept their lips sealed about the shoddy work done by the previous builders – now they take their first chance to leave and the mayor says “don’t let the door hit you in the butt on the way out” – very typical of the past 6 mayors and their “hand out” policies.

I am an Atlanta native, and of all the things TWG lamented in her post, all of them, if still existing (see the World of Sid and Marty Krofft, and the Omni as two things that no longer exist, but the Omni has been replaced in the exact same spot) she, and you, can still do all of them in the downtown area, if you so desire.

Hence, IMHO, this move is not the end of downtown and those memories, and the downtown experiences are still there for the experiencing, so this is not much of a reflection on the downtown experience – and it just might turn out to be all the things that were promised when the Olympics provided the footprint for Turner Field – at least Cobb County, in the area where the new stadium is proposed, the infrastructure is already there, with new development pretty much guaranteed IF the stadium is built, unlike the area around Turner Field that is still a blight on the downtown Atlanta, and Turner Field.

And, Kasim has grand plans for the re-development of that area, or so he says – guess he has not been to Detroit lately!

ATL Brave in Gwinnett

November 12th, 2013
8:48 am

We live in Gwinnett, but we are 10+ year dugout level season ticket holders with the Atlanta Braves. We have NEVER once felt unsafe in the surroundings, or had issues with parking. The only time we experience traffic issues is when there are other major events going on in that area at the same time. Criminals will look for opportunities ANYWHERE, so crime will happen in the new location as well. Traffic will be a NIGHTMARE getting to proposed new stadium.

They can promise all they want, but anyone foolish to believe one of the worst traffic disasters in GA is going to be improve is not thinking clearly. The excitement will wear off in a few days, perhaps weeks, and reality WILL set in!

Cannot imagine people that attend games on a regular basis are going to look for things to do before and / or after a game. I have never heard regular game attendees complain or look for things to do after the game. Most just go home. What family is going to go out after most games end at 10ish in the evenings. Young singles might be looking for bars or nightlife, but how much more are they willing to spend after 3 plus hours at a ballpark? Before the game? Who is looking for entertainment on a consistent basis on weekday afternoons? We are only talking about a small handful of weekend games. The new stadium prices are going to rise to pay for this move.

Cobb residents should be furious that they country has extra money to blow – while ignoring schools, public safety, etc, etc, etc. NIMBY will set in. Most season ticket holders sell off the bulk of there tickets or give them anyway, so I know for a fact the map is a disingenuous look at who actually attneds games.

Don’t go to G Braves on a regular basis, and we will not be a season ticket holder at the new Cobb location. Traffic will be 2x the nightmare getting from Gwinnett.

Is it no wonder ATL is always top on the Miserable Sports Cities list? True Braves fans that attend regularly are NOT happy.

jct

November 12th, 2013
8:50 am

@MJG – I have taken rail in all the cities you have named. MARTA rail is quite limited in comparison to those cities.

I don’t know if you ever took a subway in NYC in the 70s or early 80s. Depending on the line, it could be a gross and/or terrifying experience, I have never felt like that on MARTA. Really, I just the rail was extended so that it would go more places. I hate driving. I would ditch my car in a second.

Young Lady

November 12th, 2013
8:58 am

DB- You have faaar more faith in Cobb County than I do to deal with the issue of the traffic congestion this is going to cause. Frankly traffic wise, this is going to be a nightmare.

MJG- MARTA’s fault extends from the fact it has a limited range on light rail. If it was easier to use, like the rail in NYC, Boston, i.e. anywhere else where it extends to where people live it would be better. But then you have people that are afraid of that so…it won’t happen.

motherjanegoose

November 12th, 2013
9:14 am

Good points on the other rails. I drive in Boston but not NYC ( take a cab) and try to avoid driving in DC. I drive all over Atlanta and, while the traffic is often horrendous, I can do it. I do not mind driving but cannot stand sitting STILL as I did near 400 on my way to the airport. They were hauling an accident car across and no one was moving. I almost missed my flight to MSP. Not something you can predict at noon.

I have been told that more professionals take the rail to work everyday in the places I mentioned above, than take Marta. Since I do not take Marta…I do not know.

@jct…my 1st trip to NYC was in the 1990s.

leon

November 12th, 2013
9:14 am

I live intown and take Marta every day to work as an attorney. All the white Repubs. from the Northern suburbs would never ride mass transit to go to a Braves game even it dropped them off at the door to the stadium. I can’t wait to see the SUV crowd try to get to their new stadium in their SUVS and have total gridlock. Don’t want to see them get dirty rubbing shoulders on MARTA with the little people.

FCM

November 12th, 2013
9:20 am

I would like to see more broadway shows in Cobb Energy Center. It is a fantastic venue. I love the Fox but the last few times we went down it was not a pleasant experience. Fortunately Cobb has LYRIC which does broadway shows at The Anderson Theater by the Cobb Civic Center.

I guess since I drive to Midtown daily I have no desire to come down on the weekends. My kids like the Braves but are not saying “Mom we have to go!”

Make fun of us if you like, but we enjoy our life OTP.

On the flip side, I am not thrilled with the announcement. I prefer they leave the traffic and various business near the stadium where they are now. I see no need to export them OTP.

FCM

November 12th, 2013
9:34 am

@ leon, I have taken Marta to about 90% of the events (other than work) I have attended downtown through the last 30 years. With and without my kids. I don’t appreciate your sterotype of: white Repubs. from the Northern suburbs would never ride mass transit…although to be fair I am libertarian :)

FCM

November 12th, 2013
9:46 am

I am 100% against using tax dollars to build any sports theater. You buy the team, you house the team.

Big_Black

November 12th, 2013
10:03 am

I say good riddance. The loss of the Braves to cobb county will not have a negative economic impact on Atlanta. The alternative would be to redesign the stadium to accomodate the most popular sport in the world and an emerging sport in the USA, soccer.

Baseball is not a wildly popular sport for americans anymore. Baseball is LAST, with football, basketball, and hockey being ahead. Most american kids don’t aspire to be baseball players. The teams comprise more latin americans that the usa citizens. The game is EXCRUCIATINGLY boring. I think that I’d rather watch real housewives than the average base ball game and I HATE the real housewives franchise.

Liberty media is just catering to their core demographic. white suburbanites. That’s who frequent the games more than anyone else. It stands to reason that they would move the team from the “urban” core to a more “congenial” atmosphere. see how I did that and didn’t mention race. oops. damn.

good riddance!

jarvis

November 12th, 2013
10:06 am

I love downtown. I try to takes my kids often.
Turner Field is hardly downtown though. It’s on a little island off by itself.

I’m in the vacinity of the Georgia Dome and Phillips often doing other things, but there is absolutely no reason at all to be near Turner Field on a non-gameday. Even on a gameday, it’s drive down fight through traffic, head straight in the stadium, bolt immediately afterward….it’d be nice to have a full gameday experience.

I’m not concerned about my well-being at a game at Turner Field, but the venue offers nothing. The city has had since the mid-60’s to make that area a nice place to visit, but they are either incapable or uninterested in doing so.

cobbmom

November 12th, 2013
10:15 am

I live in Cobb and unless the school district will benefit from the stadium I don’t want it. The amount of money the county is putting up to build it is about what has been cut from the school budget the past three years. With talk already circulating about teacher cuts and more increases to class size for the 2014-15 school year, the last thing we want to hear is how the county is building a stadium. We’ve already had three years of cuts exceeding $80 million each year and rumor has it this year may possibly be a $90 million cut.

maria

November 12th, 2013
10:16 am

Atlanta was such a lovely place to go for shopping, events,etc.i have gone to Colombia SA three times now and felt safer than in downtown Atlanta.i wish shakesphere tavern would follow suit

Denise

November 12th, 2013
10:25 am

I think the traffic in Cobb is going to be horrendous and there is no easy access to public transportation. I have no hope for the best. Glad I never lived there even though Cumberland was my mall of choice for shopping and restaurants (I hate big malls).

malleesmom

November 12th, 2013
10:49 am

@MJG – wish I had known you were in the MSP area. :)
As for the topic at hand – We lived in Gwinnett from 1999-2011. The hubs worked downtown so we rarely went there on our own time. It wasn’t worth the traffic, parking, congestion hassles. We rode MARTA a few times (didn’t like it). My first thought as I read the initial Braves story was “hope they plan correctly for infrastructure”. Cobb, like other parts of the metro are so crowded already. As for us, we lived close to the Gwinnett Center so we looked for events there. If they weren’t offered, we didn’t go. Being a non-native makes a difference I think. It was nice to hear stories about Rich’s, the pink pig, parades, etc but since we didn’t have life-long attachments to those events, we could easily skip them.

HB

November 12th, 2013
10:56 am

“Cannot imagine people that attend games on a regular basis are going to look for things to do before and / or after a game.”

And even if they do, will they drop by any time other than game time? That’s what tends to be the biggest problem with building up the surrounding area. No matter how good business is on game days, 81 good days isn’t enough to keep a business going. DC’s stadium has improved the surrounding neighborhood, but growth was far slower and far less than expected — good, but probably not worth the $600 million dollars the city spent. The new DOT building bringing workers in daily has probably done more for the area than the stadium has. A few restaurants have opened — enough to make it a nice area for the new condo residents and office workers. What’s really been successful, though, before and after games has been the fairgrounds next to the ballpark. There’s a bar there that extends it’s space outdoors and the now-trendy food trucks that set up shop for lunch around town come in some game days. A great boon for those small businesses, but none of it’s brick-and-mortar or permanent to the neighborhood.

A

November 12th, 2013
11:47 am

We go downtown a handful of times a year for DragonCon and maybe an event or two at Philips or Centennial Park. I’ve never felt unsafe, but then there are usually crowds when we go. And if you take a wrong turn, you’re in a sketchy area very quickly. I wish our downtown were more compact, easy to walk and vibrant after work hours, but sadly we suburbanites have fled and now “downtown” is just as easily Cobb, North Fulton or parts of Gwinnett rather than Peachtree St.

C.G. T.

November 12th, 2013
12:46 pm

Let the Braves move. They have held the city of Atlanta hostage for too long. Maybe they should move to Phenix City, Alabama and trick them for the next few decades.

C from Marietta

November 12th, 2013
2:06 pm

WOW! Are you people really this nasty in your life?
This is my favorite quote “Cobb residents should be furious that they country has extra money to blow – while ignoring schools, public safety, etc, etc, etc. NIMBY will set in.”
Do you really think they are “ignoring” these things? Look it up. Cobb has the best schools in the metro area along with the lowest crime rate. Let’s all take a deep breath and calm down. Let’s see what happens. No one really knows how things will shake out. Instread of insulting each other. Let’s just wish everyone well and see what happens.

C from Marietta

November 12th, 2013
2:08 pm

BTW… I have been to The Ted at least 200 hundread times and NEVER felt unsafe. As a matter of fact I will miss my parking lot friends at the Atlanta Voice. I will miss my buddies Oscar and Jay ;-).

motherjanegoose

November 12th, 2013
2:15 pm

@malleesmom…I love MSP and I feel a lot more safe in their downtown than Atlanta. It is COLD in the winter though. I have been to lots of places in Minnesota and know that the folks who live there can endure some tough winters. Do you like it? I was in Bemidji ( sp?) when the temp was 25 BELOW zero… not the wind chill.

I laughed when I on the radio that W or Th forecast is for a cold day with a high of only 50. It was snowing when I was in MN this weekend and they were good with it. I will be happy to put you on my list of contacts, so we could meet up for lunch or dinner. I get to the area once or twice a year. Glad to add you to the 8 or so others I have met and become friends with, on this blog. Lots of fun to see the person behind the name. Let me know if you are interested.

Wayne

November 12th, 2013
2:20 pm

Howdy y’all. T mentioned Varsity; is that place still open? Don’t mean to go off-topic but I’ve been to Atlanta a couple of times for training and I did stop at Varsity and got yelled at. “What’ll ya have…”, I think it was?

Just to let you know? It snowed here in MA today.

Chris

November 12th, 2013
2:53 pm

You know, there seems to be this OPT vs ITP going on. The thing is Atlanta and the ‘burbs depend on each other. As for going downtown, haven’t been in a while as I prefer Midtown or Buckhead. Not that I feel unsafe downtown, it’s just there is nothing to do there. So the Braves are moving to Cobb County, it’s a shame but maybe this will clear the way for west Summerhill area to revitialize. Personally, I don’t like Cobb County. I will not spend my money there so I will no longer attend a Braves game if they indeed move out there. Personally I think it would have been better for them to move to Sandy Springs or Dunwoody, more in the center of their fan base. But Cobb County, no way!

Ssorry, C from Marietta...

November 12th, 2013
4:05 pm

…but Cobb has been passed by Forsyth County as having the best schools in the metro area – but Cobb is much closer to the action, unless you need some water sports…

motherjanegoose

November 12th, 2013
4:19 pm

Hey Wayne….YES The Varsity is kind of an Atlanta staple. Please keep your snow in MA we do not need in in ATL….haha!

OTP and ITP is a funny thing, to me. As are those people who have never even been out of the state they were born in. YES they are out there. I was in Vermont once for a meeting and they did not have the turn out they expected. I asked if it was me. “No, we are 20 miles away from where we used to have it and some members told us they were not about to drive 20 miles.”

Sharon

November 12th, 2013
4:26 pm

The city makes getting to and parking in downtown Atlanta too grueling. I got ticketed during a Saturday GSU study session, after refilling a meter to the 2 hour max 3 times. When it was time to go, I arrived 4 minutes too late and had a parking ticket already on my windshield. With Park Atlanta (late evenings AND on weekends, even??!!), panhandlers, and an inconvenient MARTA option, it’s like a warning to “Stay Away”.

Little can be done about the panhandlers, but parking and MARTA could be adjusted. The “allure” of downtown is greatly dimmed by both.

joe

November 12th, 2013
4:26 pm

Never had a problem going to any Braves games, except for one drunk idiot almost running us over trying to beat everyone out of the parking lot. That said, it is not a really nice place to go to see a game. If you’ve ever been to Wrigley field in Chicago of Fenway in Boston, those stadiums sit in the middle of a neighborhood filled with bars and restaurants where it is simply nice to walk around before or after the game. That is what I hope Cobb provides as it will be nice to go there even during the off season.

kc

November 12th, 2013
4:43 pm

I’m with jct on this. I live just ITP after being OTP for a gazillion years. Got tired of the traffic (namely the HOT lanes) – and I”ll say as someone who lived down the street from the G Braves, traffic is much worse getting to the Gwinnett stadium than getting to the Ted. I work downtown and ride MARTA five days a week, if not more, and I have never felt unsafe on MARTA. I HAVE felt unsafe by some drivers on 85 and 285 though. I’m a huge Braves fan but with the move to Cobb, and without adequate public transportation, I won’t be going to the games. Maybe I’m just old and boring but I don’t know what the lure is for after-game activities. The game is the draw, not any bars/clubs/restaurants.

ATL Brave in Gwinnett

November 12th, 2013
4:48 pm

“WOW! Are you people really this nasty in your life?
This is my favorite quote “Cobb residents should be furious that they country has extra money to blow – while ignoring schools, public safety, etc, etc, etc. NIMBY will set in.”

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So you call REALITY and FACTUAL based comments nasty? Cobb IS blowing money that could be spent on more important items. Cobb schools are suffering, and public safety spending in down in all metro ATL counties. Don’t stick your nose up and act as if Cobb schools are that much better than Gwinnett. GCPS is far superior to Cobb in many ways with less money. So YES, NIMBY will set in when Cobb residents start to settle down over the excitement.

FYI, not too long ago Gwinnett residents faced the same thing, but on a MUCH smaller scale, when the AAA Braves moved to Gwinnett and a ballpark was built on the taxpayer’s dimes. That stadium nor the team is doing very well.

Thanks for the kind words C in Marietta! :)

MANGLER

November 12th, 2013
5:20 pm

They dynamic of downtown changed in Atlanta, as in many cities in the 70s and 80s. What was once the commercial and night life center emptied out as malls sprang up in all the suburbs. Downtown was built as a 9 to 5 place with little regard to people living there. That is changing in many cities with attention being paid to revitalizing and bringing commerce back into the center of town. Just maybe a tad late for the Ted.
The Braves have faced broken promises from the city and developers before, and they had little reason to think that would change. So they’re relocating. If Reed’s suggestion that the area around the Ted will actually become something more really happens, then that will be a win for the city that apparently having a stadium right there couldn’t bring.

Dewey, Cheatem and Howe

November 12th, 2013
5:45 pm

If you’ve ever been to Wrigley field in Chicago of Fenway in Boston, those stadiums sit in the middle of a neighborhood filled with bars and restaurants where it is simply nice to walk around before or after the game. That is what I hope Cobb provides as it will be nice to go there even during the off season.

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There is no comparing what might happen in Cobb Co. to the tradition and awe that surrounds Wrigley and Fenway, etal. The Braves will get bored with this ballpark in even less time than they have Turner Field (which was given to them by the way!). The culture of those cities can’t compare to Atlanta either.

The Braves have snubbed every true, real fan except the ones that live in Cobb. The Cobb fanatics best be prepared to shell out the money and pay the astronomical prices on tickets, etc. that will come with a state or the art MLB park. If you don’t, the Braves will do to you in 15 years what they have just done to Atlanta after over 45 good years of marriage.

motherjanegoose

November 12th, 2013
6:05 pm

@kc…WHERE did you live? I am about 3 miles tops from the Gbraves and we never see bad traffic for the game. I guess you just have to know which way to go! The MOG traffic is what is bad!

SEE

November 12th, 2013
6:29 pm

ATL gave all their money to the Falcons and just left the Braves out to dry. Good for the Braves to find another venue.

motherjanegoose

November 12th, 2013
7:42 pm

Husband went to the playoffs with our son. He said they paid $60 to park the car. He wonders if they will charge that much in Cobb. He also wonders what is up with kc saying the traffic is worse to the Gbraves game…that comment makes no sense to either of us.

HB

November 12th, 2013
8:16 pm

I don’t know how traffic is now, but I know that when I lived in Decatur 11 years ago, traffic would have been far worse heading out north on 85 in rush hour for a 7pm game start than it was going in to Turner Field.

jan

November 12th, 2013
9:20 pm