2 students accused of sex act at school: What should happen to the students? Are the parents at fault?

Two Cherokee County high school students are facing criminal charges and school disciplinary action after allegedly engaging in a sex act in the middle of the Etowah High School cafeteria last week. The act was between two freshmen following a dare according to Channel 2 Action News.

Here’s more from the AJC’s Mike Morris:

“Some parents questioned why teachers didn’t notice and stop the sex act, but other students told Channel 2 that it was hidden so well that those sitting at the next table had no idea what was going on.

“Cherokee County schools issued a statement that said, “Two juvenile Etowah High School students were charged with misdemeanor public indecency for an incident that occurred on Oct. 10. Appropriate school disciplinary action will also occur.”

“School spokeswoman Barbara Jacoby released more information on the incident Wednesday afternoon.

“A female student “allegedly made a sexual offer to a male classmate during lunch,” Jacoby said in an e-mail. “The male classmate later told administrators that he though this offer was a joke, but when the female student began to act upon it, the male student said he stopped her.”

“Jacoby said students sitting at the same table said that blocked other students and staff from witnessing what occurred.

“Two of those students said they had recorded some of the incident on their cell phones, but deleted the videos when they realized that they might face charges,” she said. “There is no evidence any video was distributed.”

The video from Channel 2 had a student saying she and others were sent the video of the act and did see it. So I’m not sure why spokeswoman said differently.

When the AJC posted the link on its Facebook page, the parents were immediately attacked as being at fault for their child rearing.

One of the girls quoted in the video blamed it on her generation just acting and not thinking before they act.

So I am wondering: What do you think is the appropriate punishment? Should it just be dealt with at a school level or should the police be involved? (They are facing misdemeanor public indecency charges.) Is this just kids being dumb or is it about rearing? Can sex acts be blamed on parents (what about violent acts?)

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WitchyWoman

October 16th, 2013
4:33 pm

I know that there will be people that will get on here and lay into the school officials, but truthfully who among us would expect kids to participate in a sexual act in such a publicly crowed place. Yeah, I know it happens at the movies, but it’s dark in there. What does it say that the other students helped hide them while they did it. I mean for goodness sakes the kids right next to them didn’t even know what was going on.

As for punishment, I think they should get the public indecency charge. If they did this anywhere else they would get the same thing. As for the parents, I think they should get a little of the blame. Just a little because aren’t parents the ones that are suppose to teach their kids right from wrong and to respect themselves. This kid just got herself labeled for her remaining high school years and possibly beyond. Next we will be hearing how she is suicidal because of the fall-out from it, even though she initiated it and went through with it. The boy is just as wrong, but at least (per his words) he tried to stop her. This goes way beyond being a dumb kid. I mean she was comfortable enough to do this in public. Ima guess this wasn’t her first time at the “rodeo”

joey

October 16th, 2013
4:48 pm

Umm, the one’s that video’d it and forwarded it to other should be charged with dissemination of child porn. That will really open their eyes cuz that aint a misdemeanor!!!!! And the parents should get 50 flogs and/or keelhauled. At least at my high school, we had the common decency to sneak off to the woods do this, and the words of a former prez, ‘oral aint sex, so there shouldn’t be any charges’

mom2two

October 16th, 2013
5:06 pm

I personally know the family of the girl, and the media is reporting this incorrectly. They are taking the boys word for it. This boy is in trouble for more than this. It was a joke/prank that was suppose to make it look like something was happening when it was not. Teenagers are impulsive and dont think about their actions. Look at posts on social media from teens all the time. I have had to work very hard to teach mine not to be impulsive and have been known to delete posts (have the password). The actual act never happened. Of course the parents of the girl are mortified over her stupidity and are dealing with it. Meanwhile at many of our high schools there are tons of teens smoking pot and the administration does nothing about that; they look the other way. I just hope that the names of the teens involved stays private. THis is a very hard lesson to learn.

catlady

October 16th, 2013
5:32 pm

Obviously, it will soon be stated that it is the teachers’ fault. Every other thing is!

Keep the kids’ names privat. How old are they? 14?publicize the parents’ names. When parents are called to account, have to be inconvenienced, made responsible, we see crap like this end.

HB

October 16th, 2013
5:44 pm

Assuming it happened, the misdemeanor charge seems reasonable. If reasonable supervision is provided on campus, the school shouldn’t be held responsible — teens aren’t toddlers and should not have an adult standing right next to them every minute. I don’t think parents should be held responsible beyond making sure the kids are (making sure they show up to court, serve any sentence imposed, etc). I think additional discipline imposed by the school would also be appropriate — detention, kicked off sports teams, whatever the school would do if the police had not been called. Criminal charges should not be a substitute for school action.

mom3boys

October 16th, 2013
6:10 pm

According to the discipline code, it has to go to panel (in my county, anyway). Doesn’t matter should/shouldn’t, etc…there’s a code and it has to be followed. The panel will render the school-related punishment.

Who let the dogs in

October 16th, 2013
6:51 pm

I blame my coffee

Lonnie Naylor

October 16th, 2013
7:05 pm

I also happen to know the details of this incident. Just because someone was charged with a crime doesn’t mean they did it. From what I know, the girl is denying it was anything more than a prank and that she never actually touched any part of the boy. They just made it look as if it were happening as a joke. Then the rumors started going around and it snowballed. Obviously, even a prank like this is in very poor taste but the media is reporting it as if the kids were actually convicted, It’s been just awful for the parents.

mom3

October 16th, 2013
8:04 pm

Oh no! Lets not blame the parents! After all, whose job it is to raise self-respecting, law abiding people? The schools? Oh not, that’s not it. Maybe the government? No, they wouldn’t know self-respect if it slapped them in the face. PBS? That’s it! Where were Mr, Rogers and Kermit when this was going on? I’m not contributing anymore money!

Gwinnett Mom

October 16th, 2013
8:21 pm

I balme the liberal govt that allows abrotion, gay mariage, sex ed in schools, stores that sell magazines wiht pics of naked woman, inmorale TV shows and a president who was born in Kenya. This is wear these kids got this idea to have sex in school.

Techmom

October 16th, 2013
8:23 pm

I don’t think the parents should get blamed. I happen to have a very impulsive kid who has done plenty of dumb things without thinking through regardless of how many times we’ve discussed thinking before acting. I think we sometimes forget that the teenage brain simply doesn’t think far enough ahead to understand the true consequences of stupid decisions (especially those made by a dare).

I think the humiliation & taking their phones away is probably the best punishment. The parents I’m sure are mortified as well, no reason to drag this through the courts (don’t we have better things to spend tax dollars on?)

MrLiberty

October 16th, 2013
8:52 pm

This kind of stuff is supposed to happen at home while your parents are out working, or behind the bleachers or in the bathroom for crying out loud. In the lunchroom? People are trying to eat! Nice to see Bill Clinton’s influence hasn’t waned any since he left office.

MrLiberty

October 16th, 2013
8:54 pm

If this kind of thing happens at your homeschool, you know you have issues. But then this kind of thing DOESN’T happen in the homeschool environment. But keep sending your kids to the government sex/drugs/violence/subservience prison.

I like to watch

October 16th, 2013
9:08 pm

When I saw an embedded video, I had higher hopes.

Pink

October 16th, 2013
9:33 pm

Sure are a lot of hateful and judgmental people on here, as with most blogs. You know what, some times teenagers do things their parents taught them not to do and teachers can’t see everything. Sometimes teenagers are resourceful, rebellious and mischievous, and perhaps they are solely responsible for their actions. What gets me is all the hateful remarks, as usual. Perhaps you should remove the log from your own eye before worrying about the splinter in others.

Techmom

October 16th, 2013
10:13 pm

@Pink – right there with ya

jarvis

October 17th, 2013
1:19 am

I’d be telling my mom it was a prank too.

T.S.

October 17th, 2013
4:05 am

Everyone here probably knows of kids from “good” homes who did bad things. At the high school level I’m inclined to start holding the kids responsible for their actions instead of immediately trying to shift blame to their parents. Saying so isn’t “hateful” Pink and Techmom. High school is certainly a good time to start growing up.

Officer

October 17th, 2013
6:25 am

@Lonnie:

Even simulating the sex act to the point it is believable in public is a crime. Therefore, based off your description, it sounds like they did in fact commit the crime.

shaggy

October 17th, 2013
6:43 am

Back in the day, we would have been horrified that this was taking place in the cafeteria. The football field bleachers would be way more appropriate.

(the other) Rodney

October 17th, 2013
6:46 am

MrLiberty – if this happens in a homeschool environ, you’ve got bigger problems than stupid, impulsive teens.

The punishment sounds fitting, to me.

CC

October 17th, 2013
6:52 am

At 14 kids know right from wrong and they should be held accountable for their actions not their parents. You can give your child a solid foundation but they choose how they are going to act at this age. That’s one reason why kids act the way they do today….it’s never their fault.

"Are the parents at fault?"

October 17th, 2013
7:01 am

WHAT?

“One of the girls quoted in the video blamed it on her generation just acting and not thinking before they act.”

Wow, a teenager taking responsibility – that is how I see it, too. Why blame the parents – most kids are taught right and wrong, and make there choices from there, from about age 8…

"Are the parents at fault?"

October 17th, 2013
7:02 am

oops – “their” choices…

Nope

October 17th, 2013
7:28 am

This action , whether perceived or actual is against both district disciplinary guidelines and Georgia law. A disciplinary panel hearing will likely occur within the school district. I hope the students also get charged with the misdemeanor.

While good parents can have kids that do stupid things, I am glad the parents are having a tough time. These are their kids. They should.

FCM

October 17th, 2013
7:42 am

I agree with the above folks who said more of the responsibilty should be on the students involved. Most of us learn at a young age that we don’t do in public that which we do not want our parents to know we are doing! In the current cell phone age you shouldn’t do near others anything you don’t want to be on You Tube for your grandchildren to see!

The parents are responsible in that they need to sit the kids down and have a long talk about right and wrong. They apparently “forgot” whatever they were told in the past. They need to make sure the kids own up to the issue, meet the court etc. It happened at school or on school grounds then yes the school can impose a disciplinary action and also call the cops.

johnny fontane

October 17th, 2013
7:42 am

I went to the wrong high school.

Techmom

October 17th, 2013
7:55 am

@ T.S. All I’m saying is kids do lots of dumb stuff and straddling them with a record in high school is of no benefit to anyone. I didn’t say not to hold them accountable, I just don’t think dragging it through court is the right way.

But I’m pretty sure we both agree that the parents shouldn’t be punished for this (certainly they’re already humiliated and will ensure their kids are too).

Becky

October 17th, 2013
8:15 am

No, the parent’s aren’t to blame..The school should discipline them and let them learn..The parent’s should also discipline them..I would think that the embarrassment for the next couple of years will be enough punishment for them..

Fred

October 17th, 2013
8:19 am

As they are both juveniles, if they do get charged their records will be sealed and most likely expunged when they hit 18. There are several opportunities to clear their records through first offender, etc. programs. While getting charged won’t be fun and will cost them and their parents some money, it won’t follow them past 18 IF they do what they are supposed to and it might make a good impression on them and their peers.

K's Mom

October 17th, 2013
9:19 am

@jarvis…you are spot on. No one else believes that these precious snowflakes may be , gasp, LYING about what happened. I think it probably happened and the kids should get punished. In HS the parents should not be punished.

maria

October 17th, 2013
9:33 am

gwinnett mom tell me this is sarcasm on your part

eva

October 17th, 2013
9:35 am

other reason i am soooo glad i never had children

(the other) Rodney

October 17th, 2013
9:58 am

FCM – I’ve said repeatedly in other conversations that I’m SO GLAD cell phones – with camera and video capability – were not around when I was in my teens, twenties, even early 30s.

Things like this were the stuff of gossip and legend when I was in school – happened all the time – nobody knew if it was really true or not. But nowadays, it’s been Tweeted and Instagrammed and Vined about twelve seconds after it was recorded.

oneofeach4me

October 17th, 2013
10:21 am

Those who say “don’t blame the teachers or the administrators, it’s not their fault” turn around and blame the parents. Then, the ones who say “don’t blame the parents” tend to put blame on the teachers for not being “aware” this act was going on. (Although I have to admit I haven’t really seen where anyone blamed the teachers on this blog)

People need to stop looking where to point the finger other than right at the teenagers themselves. I can tell you this, I have a tween daughter and I promise you I run it in the ground about having morals, ethics, manners, and respect; not just for yourself but for others as well. However, that same twelve year old girl I tell that to, and show it to (I don’t just talk the talk, I walk the walk too) STILL doesn’t fully listen and ends up having to learn the hard way on some things.

Don’t forget that you too were once a teen, and probably defied your parent’s wishes MORE than once. You know…. those parents that tried to teach you and did their best with what they had?? The actions of a teenager is not always a reflection of their parents!! Actually, it’s probably more a reflection of their peers and who they hang around if anything!!

Suspend them and if the act occurred, hit them with the charge. They can plea first offenders, do some community service, have the record sealed afterwards all while hopefully learning a lesson. Even if it is the hard way!

FCM

October 17th, 2013
10:43 am

@ (the other) Rodney..exactly. I even called FL to tell my older daughter to get something she reposted on FB down it was unacceptable. Her father called me, I told him what it was and it was down immediately. He gave her a good talking too and she has more supervision on the computer now when she is there.

@oneofeach: I am right there with you.

Atlanta Mom

October 17th, 2013
10:52 am

Generally speaking, I’m the first one to jump on the parents, but once kids hit High School, the kids are making their own bad decisions. If this involved a car or a phone, I’d say take it away, but these are just kids making stupid decisions. It happens.
Assuming it did happen, put it in a juvenile record so it disappears when they hit 18.

Resistance

October 17th, 2013
11:01 am

This goes on in adult prisons, why should we not expect the same at children’s prisons? The parents are absolutely to blame for sending their children to these government run institutions.

oneofeach4me

October 17th, 2013
11:05 am

Oh please. Let the succession attitude go, Resistance. This SAME thing would be happening in a private high school too….

Resistance

October 17th, 2013
11:28 am

Did you learn English and how to spell at a government run prison too? Secession is the word I think you were looking for (but thanks for adding evidence to my point). Indeed, this might happen at a private school as well – less likely in a Homeschool environment. Doesn’t change the truth of the matter than government schools are becoming more and more like prisons every day and that every child would be better off getting educated somewhere else.

LizBeth

October 17th, 2013
11:49 am

Students need the best sex ed possible. If parents aren’t making sure their kids have honest biological information, and birth control and STD protection advice, as well as confidence in handling peer and date pressure, then, yes, they are failing at their job. According to my kids (and my friends’ kids), alcohol, drugs, cigarettes, and sex are all available on high school campuses. Did your kid get a lot of Lortab when had their wisdom teeth taken out? The pills they didn’t take may sell for ten bucks apiece at their high school. Don’t believe this is an isolated incident teen sex-wise; it’s only isolated in that someone turned it in.

oneofeach4me

October 17th, 2013
12:21 pm

Actually Resistance it’s called auto spell. But since you want to be the grammar police… “Doesn’t change the truth of the matter than government schools are becoming more and more like prisons every day” What I think you meant to say is “Doesn’t change the truth of the matter THAT”, not THAN.”

But thanks for proving my point that sometimes common sense just isn’t that common and that even those who consider themselves “holier than thou” make the same mistakes as those they look down upon.

Plus. One question for you. If everyone home schooled their children and no one worked how would the economy run? I mean… would the stay at home moms who home school their kids be considered lazy if they have to be on government assistance to get by?? You may have to decide which one irritates you the most. Public school, or government assistance.

There is nothing wrong with the public schools in my county.

DB

October 17th, 2013
1:01 pm

It’s not the parents’ fault — I’m pretty sure they never suggested to their sweet daughter that she go down on a guy in the cafeteria during lunch time. And it’s not the teachers’ fault, because honestly, kids do all sorts of stupid stuff in school AND out. Here’s a concept: It’s the KIDS’ fault. A public indecency charge should take care of everything nicely. Consequences for their actions, embarrassment and shame for everyone involved. End of story.

And maybe some counseling for the 14-year-old girl, who feels the need to attract attention by offering to engage in sex acts in the first place. The boy needs to be smacked upside the head, too, but I’m sure they are going to blame it all on the girl.

K's Mom

October 17th, 2013
1:10 pm

@DB, thank you for summing up my feelings so well. You are exactly right.

Real Life

October 17th, 2013
2:55 pm

It is primarily the fault of the two involved. But I think the parents might want to look at the discussions they have had or failed to have with their children. Kids do what they want in many instances, but a good sense of right and wrong is instilled at home. A 14-year old offering to engage in a public sex act or willing to participate in the sex act tells me something is wrong somewhere. Gender is not an issue to me because both were in the wrong. Whether the actual act took place or was simulated, these two students have missed something along the way.

Mickey

October 17th, 2013
3:02 pm

It’s George Bush’s fault ! Why not blame him.

Mickey

October 17th, 2013
3:03 pm

It’s George Bush’s fault ! Why not blame him. If,it makes you feel better!

Gwinnett Mom

October 17th, 2013
4:27 pm

@ maria

R U callin me a lier? I dare not lie under the eyes of God. How dare you accuse me of such!

roughrider

October 17th, 2013
5:30 pm

Maybe the parents should keep these kids hom until they learn how to act in public.

BehindEnemyLines

October 17th, 2013
7:06 pm

I blame the advent of digital photography. In my day, things like this were taken to the darkroom (where the school paper/annual photos were developed) where they belonged.