Some schools drop new healthier lunches, but is it too soon?

The Associated Press is reporting that after one year, some schools are dropping the new healthier federal lunch program because the cafeterias were losing money due to kids not buying the healthier meals. While exact numbers of how many schools have dropped are not known, the AP has many examples. Further down in the story, we learn that only 1 percent of the 521 nutrition directors surveyed said they planned to drop the program and only 3 percent said they were thinking about it.

From The AP:

Dr. Janey Thornton, deputy undersecretary for, which oversees the program, said she is aware of reports of districts quitting but is still optimistic about the program’s long-term prospects.

“Many of these children have never seen or tasted some of the fruits and vegetables that are being served before, and it takes a while to adapt and learn,” she said.

The agency had not determined how many districts have dropped out, Thornton said, cautioning that “the numbers that have threatened to drop and the ones that actually have dropped are quite different.”

I agree with Thornton that it’s too soon for schools to dump the healthier programs. Kids need to have time to learn to love fruits and vegetables and healthier versions of favorite foods. (I think the meal they describe in the story sounds good – see below – and my kids would eat it.) I’ve always heard that kids need to try a food 10 times before adopting it. So I think the schools need to hang on in the long-term-interest of the kids.

What bothered me from the story is that the kids (mostly talking about high schoolers) are only allowed certain portions of the healthy foods, and it’s not enough to fill them up. Some of those guidelines have been changed to allow for larger servings, but I think they should be able to have larger portions on lean meats and unlimited fruits and vegetables to help them power up for class and all their after-school activities.

I’m eating fruits and vegetables and Greek Yogurt all day long to feel full and keep up my energy. I can imagine high school boys are really hungry after school, and they don’t have time to go home and eat. When my kids come home they have a big, healthy snack. They are generally very hungry.

Here are some high lights from The Associated Press:

Federal officials say they don’t have exact numbers but have seen isolated reports of schools cutting ties with the $11 billion National School Lunch Program, which reimburses schools for meals served and gives them access to lower-priced food….

Nationally, about 31 million students participated in the guidelines that took effect last fall under the 2010 Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act….

Not every district can afford to quit. The National School Lunch Program provides cash reimbursements for each meal served: about $2.50 to $3 for free and reduced-priced meals and about 30 cents for full-price meals. That takes the option of quitting off the table for schools with large numbers of poor youngsters.

The new guidelines set limits on calories and salt, phase in more whole grains and require that fruit and vegetables be served daily. A typical elementary school meal under the program consisted of whole-wheat cheese pizza, baked sweet potato fries, grape tomatoes with low-fat ranch dip, applesauce and 1 percent milk.

In December, the Agriculture Department, responding to complaints that kids weren’t getting enough to eat, relaxed the 2-ounce-per-day limit on grains and meats while keeping the calorie limits.

At Wallace County High in Sharon Springs, Kan., football player Callahan Grund said the revision helped, but he and his friends still weren’t thrilled by the calorie limits (750-850 for high school) when they had hours of calorie-burning practice after school. The idea of dropping the program has come up at board meetings, but the district is sticking with it for now.

“A lot of kids were resorting to going over to the convenience store across the block from school and kids were buying junk food,” the 17-year-old said. “It was kind of ironic that we’re downsizing the amount of food to cut down on obesity but kids are going and getting junk food to fill that hunger.”

To make the point, Grund and his schoolmates starred last year in a music video parody of the pop hit “We Are Young.” Instead, they sang, “We Are Hungry.”

It was funny, but Grund’s mother, Chrysanne Grund, said her anxiety was not.

“I was quite literally panicked about how we would get enough food in these kids during the day,” she said, “so we resorted to packing lunches most days.”

So what do you think: Should the schools drop out if they are running a deficit? Should they allow their students more time to adapt to healthier tastes? Should the high schoolers be given larger calorie portions to help fill them up if healthy foods?

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August 29th, 2013
6:46 am

Don’t care – This is nothing more than the government attempting to take away personal responsibility and trying to “prove” that they, the government, can provide for us and our families better than we. What, exactly, was “unhealthy” with regard to the lunches previously provided? And, unless absolutely forced and depending on age, no child will automagically adapt to healthier tastes unless these actally taste good or at least similar to the foods they are replacing, i.e. whole wheat pizza.
“I’m eating fruits and vegetables and Greek Yogurt all day long to feel full and keep up my energy” – Please go right ahead but no way will I adopt some diet of this nature because I’m led to “think” it’s better. You would not believe the diet of my great-grandmother who, when told she needed to adjust it when she was 98, refused and still lived another 6 years. She died at 105 so, had she adopted all these new-fangled diets, would obvously still be alive today and be 129… I know, I’m striving to attain “most cynical” on this blog. And, if you think I’m bad here, should follow me on Twitter! Oh, wait, I’m far to independent and liberal (in a non-political manner) than most on here.


August 29th, 2013
6:48 am

Oops – before the grammar police start flashing lights and sirens, allow me to correct the following; “too independent” instead of the posted “to” — Totally my mistake.


August 29th, 2013
7:19 am

They’re danged if the do and danged if they don’t. We all know or at least should know by now that childhood obesity is out of control. We got kids as young as 10 with type II diabetes and kids as young as 12 with high blood pressure. When schools talk about it, the first thing people say is “well they should serve healthier food at school”. Well here it is. They tried to serve healthier food. The kids wouldn’t eat it and the parents wouldn’t make them. I saw a little girl yesterday that looked to be about 8 years old. Not to be mean, but she looked like the kid on “Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory” that ate the gum and became the blueberry. She looked like she couldn’t put her arms down. We all know she didn’t get that way from eating school lunches. Those one or two meals can’t counteract the massive amounts of crap the kids eat at home. Now I don’t believe the government has the right to tell us what to eat in our own homes or out at restaurants, but they have all the right they want to decide what THEY will serve. I think they should actually be more worried about getting the kids up and active. Have decent P.E. classes or just have P.E. at all. THAT is the big issue. Not to sound old but we I was younger, the school lunches weren’t the healthiest…of course the cafeteria ladies actually cooked the food back then, but we were so active it didn’t matter that we had chocolate cake and fried chicken.

@Me Like I have had some similar experiences with some of my family members that did not have the healthiest eating habits actually outliving the ones that were running themselves crazy with all the health fads.


August 29th, 2013
7:20 am

More time. School is for learning, even about healthy diet.


August 29th, 2013
7:22 am

To the grammar police…and I know you are out there. I humbly apologize for any errors.


August 29th, 2013
7:48 am

It isn’t the contents of the lunch, it is the size. My 10-year-old son is 5-foot-2-inches and weighs about 135 pounds (his Dad is over 6 feet tall). He has breakfast at 6:30am before catching the schoolbus; then lunch at 11:30. Afterschool sports practice 4 days a week. When I pick him up at 5:00 he is Starving! I bring a sandwich, carton of milk and a piece of fruit in the car for a snack just to get through the 30 minute drive home. He then has something else to eat while he waits for dinner to be ready.
I like and support the idea of healthier school lunches, but not cutting calories from the diets of growing children. Research shows that children who are hungry can’t learn. Not much learning is taking place after a 700 calorie lunch!

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August 29th, 2013
8:02 am

The calorie counts are ridiculous. Any health and fitness expert will tell you that there’s a minimum amount of calories a person needs to eat to maintain their weight, and a number they need to eat in order to safely and effectively drop weight and keep it off. They’ll also tell you that lunch should be the largest meal of the day because it occurs when there is still plenty of time for the body to digest a larger amount of food. 850 calories is more like a proper dinner portion, when the body is starting to slow down for the night. Even obese kids need to eat more than these calorie amounts at lunch so they feel full and don’t binge on snacks later. Now, getting to the HS athletes. At that age, high school athletes can easily burn 1000+ calories during practice, so there’s nothing wrong with them eating double that amount at lunch. If an athlete is trying to bulk up, they need to eat almost 4 times the calories in order to add weight in addition to lifting weights and other strength training. This garbage piece of legislation is nothing more than our First Lady wanting to get her name in the papers for something besides her husbands abject failure as a leader. If it continues its going to make the obesity problem worse, not better.


August 29th, 2013
8:25 am

750-850 calories at lunch is plenty for learning another 2-3 hours! Can’t kids who have afterschool practice bring a snack to eat at that time? As for kids who simply don’t like the healthier food — so what? Why should schools provide food that caters to unhealthy habits and tastes? The school should set an example and provide healthy food. If kids don’t adapt, then their parents can give them junk to bring in their lunch boxes.


August 29th, 2013
8:27 am

Are the calories the problem or the lack of exercise? I do not see kids riding bikes and playing outside like we used to and I lived in Chicago. My daugher commented this summer, “Remember when we all got out to play games outside? I don’t see anyone out now!” That was 10 years ago and before a lot of the electronic things arrived. Recess has been cut out too. Sad.

@ Witchy…I agree:
Not to sound old but we I was younger, the school lunches weren’t the healthiest…of course the cafeteria ladies actually cooked the food back then, but we were so active it didn’t matter that we had chocolate cake and fried chicken.

We had HOT DOG DAY…a hot dog, little bottle of Coke, chips and a chocolate donut. I am serious!

Maybe they should stop worrying about this and spend more time worrying about what people are buying with their EBT cards: sodas, cheetos, chips, etc. I thought the whole purpose was to help people out who need to eat. Those things are not nutritious. One of my REAL pet peeves to see someone using an EBT card to buy junk or things I typically do not buy: crab legs. Yes, I saw it.

Many complain that we are infringing on their rights if we regulate what they buy on EBT. What about FSA funds? Those funds come from our paycheck ( not given on EBT cards) and they are regulated too but we earned that $$$. We used to be able to purchase Tylenol or antibiotic ointment…no more. Regulation!


August 29th, 2013
8:33 am

Just looked it up-1,800 for a 14–18-year-old girl and 2,200 for a 14–18-year-old boy- recommended calories per day. So 750-850 for a HS lunch is well within the guidelines of acceptable, although it sounds high to me. If your child requires more calories than that, I don’t feel it is the school’s responsibility to provide the extra food. I get a double chicken chopped salad from Subway for a total of 220 calories and 36 grams protein and I can’t eat the whole thing- it’s HUGE! One of those salads is enough to feed both me and my husband. I work at a HS, trust me, there is plenty of food on their plates, and most of it gets thrown away. Adding some type of salad bar would be a good idea, but then school lunch prices would go up yet again. My kids pack their lunch because we/they don’t like the overly processed foods the cafeterias serve. I will eat the school lunch today because it is a baked potato, and I add 3 servings of broccoli, and a skim milk to my tray. If I finish that, I am stuffed!!


August 29th, 2013
8:49 am

Personally, I don’t really care what people buy with EBT cards as long as the funds are capped. If someone wants to forego meat for several days to afford to have crab legs for one meal, I’m fine with that. Should they restrict junk food? Whatever, I don’t really care either way, but it’s not going to happen, because soda and junk food companies have strong lobbies.

A big reason for focusing on schools more than EBT is that it’s relatively easy. No regulations for stores to follow, no updates to digital systems to restrict funds, etc. it’s simply serving healthy food according to guidelines — something they’ve done for decades, so they know now to do this sort of meal planning. It’s just the specifics of the guidelines that have changed. Healthy school lunches are low-hanging fruit, so an obvious first step.


August 29th, 2013
9:02 am

@ Me – I don’t see it as the government taking away responsibility. They have been providing school lunch for quite a few decades now. It is and has been their responsibility to provide a lunch at school and kids and parents can “opt out” if desired. The way I see it, serving a healthier lunch is using my “tax dollars” wisely. Why would I want my tax dollars to be spent on junk food with high fructose corn syrup? And, then, my tax dollars are spent helping pay for diabetes treatment.

Eating actual fruit, vegetables and whole grains is not a new fangled diet. It’s the diet that was around in this country for centuries. And, I would bet that your great-grandmother, who was fortunate to lead a long life, most likely ate whole foods, fresh home cooked vegetables, fruits and meats at least the first 50-60 years of her life (before modern day junk food existed) giving her a solid foundation of health.

Junk foods have also changed over the years to increase profits. I don’t drink Coke because of any allergy to caramel. It is certainly not a healthy beverage, but you could make an argument that it was not “as bad” when they used actual sugar in the recipe. When they switched to the highly processed high fructose corn syrup as the cheap sweetener, it really went downhill.


August 29th, 2013
9:10 am

I think schools are stuck between a rock and a hard place. The real problem is taking place in the home. PARENTS are failng their kids and then complain about it and place blame on others. Is it fair to ask schools to continue losing money to try and maintain an ideal that isn’t being implemented at home?

Kids will eat what they are used to eating at home. If they eat raw sushi at home, they will choose it when they are out of the house. If they eat salads at home, they will chose that when out of the house whether it be at school or out in a restaurant. My kids love salad but won’t even look at an avacado and that is because we don’t eat avacados at home. I don’t like them. If parents are only giving their kids pizza, chips, and soda at home…. take a guess at what they will pick for themselves when given a choice? It’s not rocket science.

I support healthy school lunches, especially for younger kids because they could possibly still soak up the connection between what they are learning about healthy diet and what they are actually consuming. High schoolers are probably already set in their ways for eating habits.

I also think the lack of activity is most definitely a Parent problem and the schools are unfairly blamed. It’s Parents who ALLOW kids to stay indoors and play electronics all day. By the way… if all these families can afford electronics… then they can afford to eat healthy at home. Period. They have to choose it. I absolutely think EBT should be regulated to only allow healthy items. I think this would be a key way to solve the problem… by controlling what poor/uneducated bring into the home. Again, if kids are used to eating it at home, they will choose it when they are out of the house.

My grandfather lived on a hog farm and they used to eat lard sandwiches regularly. He is 94 today and has never had a weight problem or serious health issues. Much of that can be attributed to the very physical and manual labor intensive the work on the farm was and later years working in a coal mine. Today, my kids play sports and when they are not playing sports, they are outside at least 1 hour a day playing with friends (on weekends, it’s many hours). In addition, they have PE twice per week in school.


August 29th, 2013
9:51 am

My child’s private school has it’s own chef, I sincerely don’t care either way.


August 29th, 2013
10:00 am

@ HB…I shop at Publix and love their BOGO deals. They recently had cheese or meat ravioli ( frozen) and Prego sauce on sale. You could certainly have dinner for four with a veggie/salad and bread for $10-$12. OR you could have CRAB LEGS. Not sure if four people could eat $10 worth of crab legs as I do not buy them.

I agree that it is MUCH easier to mandate school lunches. Many folks have never been taught to eat healthy or budget $$$ for food. If they are using their own money I DO NOT CARE. If they are using $$$ that the rest of us chipped in, perhaps someone needs to show them how to use it so that when they DO get a job with a paycheck they will be able to make it last.

When we were allowed items on FSA, the bar code showed which items we could purchase. Why can that not be implemented with groceries. Is easy always best when thousands of dollars are being wasted?


August 29th, 2013
11:16 am

@ Beth – You are absolutely right that the “lack of activity is most definitely a Parent problem and the schools are unfairly blamed.” There are a lot of parents allowing their kids to be on electronic devices or watching television for too many hours a day. It is not best for the kids, but the parents don’t want to set limits. And, it’s easier on the parents. They “justify” it by telling themselves that this is “how kids are these days.” And, they also justify it by saying their child needs computer skills to be able to keep up with the rest of the world in getting jobs. I am so glad that we totally avoided screens and electronic devices in my son’s first five years, so he did not get accustomed to it and he spends a lot of hours outside playing, exploring and creating his own fun. And, at 8, he knows his way around the computer as well as anyone who started earlier. People tend to think that the computer skills are what’s critical when most major employers now say that what will be needed in the future are innovative, creative, out of the box thinkers and problem solvers.

I do think, though, there is some blame to go around beyond parents. Our society and schools are now structured in a way that highly limits the free time that kids have to just play outdoors. When you factor in the bus rides, the long school days, the shorter summer and the hours of homework required, it is difficult for kids to have as much free play. I can recall, when I was in school in the 70’s that, most days, I could complete all of my homework on the bus ride home. A lot more is demanded of kids now in regards to homework. Couple that with all of the scheduled extracurricular activities that are not always “physical”, there is a lot less free time for play.

My son is homeschooled, so we don’t have those time restrictions as much. If we were in a school structure, I would certainly be concerned about the lack of adequate time for free play, exploring nature and getting exercise.


August 29th, 2013
12:23 pm

You really have a personal problem with the less fortunate don’t you? My husband I have both been layed off after working and paying taxes for 30+ years and most recently (for the first time in our life) had to apply for EBT. Am I proud of it? Hell no. We both want jobs and for life to get back to the way it was but unfortunately that is going to take time and most likely neither of us will procure the salary we once had. As far as what I buy? It’s none of your dang business. I worked all those years and never got a dime off the government so I feel like we paid into that small benefit we are recieving now until we get back on our feet. If I want to buy steaks with my EBT and eat hot dogs for the rest of the week, that’s our business too. For someone to claims to love people so much and be a christian you sure are judgemental on people having hard times right now. Hope it never happens to you. SMH


August 29th, 2013
12:39 pm

Some people have worked for years and payed into the system. That is what the system is for. Others have not.

My neighbor told me this on Tuesday, ” My hairdresser said to me…you white people are stupid to work and pay for what you could have for free. You have not figured out how to work the system.” I am simply sharing what she shared with me. Perhaps we are stupid.

Poor people come in all sizes shapes and colors. Thankfully, I have had some type of a job for 38 years and yes anything could happen. I have also paid into the system for 38 years and might deserve to have some help. I have also used coupons and been quite frugal my entire life.
Waste not want not….is an old saying that some may not know. My great grandparents dug through the trash for food when they first came to America. They then worked at whatever they could do to get ahead. I have freely given food and $$ to those in need. I do not have a problem with those who are truly needy. I would not be eating steak and crab legs if I could not afford it but that is just me.
I tend to be conservative with my $$$.

I attended a church in Houston, TX while there on business.
The Pastor said, “If you love someone you do not have to make them happy.” Loving someone enough to help them get back on their own two feet by perhaps providing a job or showing them how to stretch their dollars is more powerful than simply giving them everything. IMHO. There are those who are poor because no one has shown them how to handle their $$$.


August 29th, 2013
12:50 pm

I do not care what people who are getting assistance buy, as long as it is food. Cigarettes and alcohol? No. But hey! Even folks who fall on hard times have birthdays and anniversaries and good news they want to celebrate and may want to have crab legs to do so. And a bag of Doritos every once in a while won’t kill anybody. We only see what someone purchase at that moment not what they have in their pantries and refrigerators. And frankly it’s not my business. I don’t think so anyway.

I don’t think the schools should give up so easily on the healthy options. Sure it is the parents’ obligation to feed the kids healthy food but either they can’t or they don’t. If the school can substitute sliced apples for apple pie, why not? School may be the only place they get a fresh fruit. I say give the kids a chance at something healthy as long as you can.


August 29th, 2013
12:51 pm

“perhaps someone needs to show them how to use it so that when they DO get a job with a paycheck they will be able to make it last”

Are you volunteering? I’m sure there are community centers or churches that would be glad to have to teach a budgeting class, free of charge for those having financial difficulties. We all know of your expertise as an educator — you’ll be great! Be sure to get back to us and let us know how it goes.


August 29th, 2013
12:55 pm

There’s a big difference between 700-850 calories of what they are serving and a nutrient dense meal.

The meal described – pizza, low fat milk, applesauce, tomatoes with ranch and sweet potato fries is a recipe for blood sugars doing a roller coaster ride. A lot of starch, not too much fat and not much protein.

Feeding kids less basic starch, more quality fats and proteins makes it easy to go 4-6 hours without snacking and even be active in that time.


August 29th, 2013
2:04 pm

I have two that are in 5th grade and the girl refuses to eat school lunches..She says they are horrible..She takes her lunch every day and has for the last two years..

I, like MJG have a problem with what some folks buy on their EBT cards..I know that people fall on hard times and I don’t begrudge them getting help..I have a nephew that gets $1105.00 per month EBT for him, wife, two young sons and an uncle..His wife is in charge of the card and grocery shopping..Within 2 weeks of getting the benefits, they don’t have any food in the house to eat..Why, because she has found a grocery store that will sell her diapers, cigarettes and other non food items on this card..Not only that, but she has been known to sell them for half on the dollar..

I’m not saying that if you are on EBT that you can’t splurge every once in a while, I jsut also think that people need to be more concerned about how they spend them..Yes, a birthday cake is ok for your child, but do they really need a $50-75 cake? If they do, then you have bigger issues..


August 29th, 2013
2:05 pm

School cafeterias are now self-sustaining (or at least not getting the same level of funding they used to), and have to make money. They are dropping out of the program because they are losing money. If eating healthy was reinforced at home it would help tremendously. Due to busy schedules and after school activities, often dinner consists of going to a drive-thru. When my boys were little we also had to deal with the eating habits of their friends’ families. We as a society need to move more and eat better.


August 29th, 2013
2:09 pm

Has anyone on this blog tasted the slop they serve in schools either the so called healthy or other wise. The food gets worse every year!


August 29th, 2013
2:15 pm

I have to wonder if it’s really the students. When I taught in a low-income preschool program, the other adults put a great deal of emphasis on feeding cookies, candies, ice cream, and Kool-Aid to the kids for snacks. When I brought in grapes and other fruit, pretzels, and cheese, the kids gobbled it up and begged for more. But the adults didn’t like it; it cost too much, they said, and took too much time and effort.


August 29th, 2013
2:58 pm

Neither of my girls will eat at school. They prefer to take their own lunches. We would pay close to $3/day for each child and they would be hungry whether its small portions or food they did not like. Either way, it does not make fiscal sense for us to spend the money. Schools should be able to decided this amongst other issues on a case by case basis. I am not surprised one bit by the changes and push-back. Our elementary school tried to push tabouleh salad this year. Really? We live in middle America (land of the hot-dish). My child said most of the lunches ended up in the trash. What a waste.


August 29th, 2013
3:12 pm

@historywriter – a friend of mine said her kids’ teacher gives out candy as reward in class. And when I was doing BBBS, my Little said her teacher offered to buy each student that did well on a test a Baconater from Wendy’s. Those things have like 1200 calories. If I was a parent I would be highly ticked that someone bought my 3rd grader something like that. But frankly we as a society have put an emphasis on food as a reward or a treat. It’s your birthday? Let’s go to dinner. You graduate? Let’s go out to dinner. Good grades? Let’s go out to dinner. It may not happen in YOUR house but it happens. I know it happened in mine and I know that when I want to connect with my friends 90% of the time it is over a meal.


August 29th, 2013
4:20 pm

Our school serves too much salty, breaded food. Almost everything is pre packaged.

In addition, and I thought this is against the law, our lunchroom competes with itself by selling cake, cookies, brownies, and some other “food” to the students, 76 percent of whom are in free lunch.


August 29th, 2013
4:29 pm

Becky, it sounds like your nephew’s wife is committing fraud. The program rules seem fine and do not allow what she’s doing — she and the store that sells her cigarettes purchased with EBT need to be reported.


August 29th, 2013
4:31 pm

I’d like the EBT cards to be restricted like WIC, with the addition of meat under, say $5.00 per pound.


August 29th, 2013
5:43 pm

The thing that jumped out at me was “I was quite literally panicked about how we would get enough food in these kids during the day,” she said, “so we resorted to packing lunches most days.” I’m betting her children are nowhere near “undernourished”, yet she feels that she has to feed them more.

Here’s the problem — if the kids had a good breakfast before they went out the door, then a 800-calorie or less lunch would be just fine, added to a decent dinner that didn’t include drive-through. But they don’t. They have a PopTart, sugared cereal, or any of a boatload of crap that passes as ‘breakfast”, or they stop at a McDonalds, etc. and get something that is over processed, over sugared, over greased and under-nutrient (or worse, eat the breakfast slop they pass out at school). But how many parents actually go to the trouble of fixing their family a decent breakfast before they go out the door? Yeah, I know — busy, busy, busy. Too busy to make sure your kids are eating right? Then you are too damn busy and you need to get your priorities in line.

No matter what the schools do to feed kids lunch, they can’t make up for lazy parenting the rest of the time.


August 29th, 2013
8:35 pm

@ malleesmom – Actually, there has not been that much push back on the meal requirements by schools. The story quotes mainly anecdotal examples and as Theresa states, only 1% of Nutrition Directors plan to drop it and only 3% are thinking about it. So, 97% of school system Nutrition Directors are not even thinking about dropping this plan.


August 29th, 2013
9:59 pm

Why aren’t parents dropping government schools? That is the real mystery.


August 29th, 2013
10:02 pm

I am sure the government has a totalitarian solution to the problem of uncooperative children and parents with regards to healthier eating. Mrs. Obama is probably working on it right now. No doubt another unconstitutional Executive Order will fix everything.


August 30th, 2013
7:30 am

@HB>“perhaps someone needs to show them how to use it so that when they DO get a job with a paycheck they will be able to make it last” Are you volunteering? I’m sure there are community centers or churches that would be glad to have to teach a budgeting class, free of charge for those having financial difficulties.”

Oh wow…great idea! This is kind of like the schools who have asked me if I teach parenting classes and then pause to say, ” The problem is that those who need to attend would never show up!”

The Thursday AJC devotes an entire section to free and inexpensive things and how to use current coupons to get said items. Can EBT users actually use a coupon…on no…their items are FREE. They also have the Publix ad filled with BOGO items. Perhaps EBT disallows BOGO too. There are dozens of web sites about frugal ways to shop and even Clark Howard has thousands of tips for those who like a bargain. Lots of folks with EBT cards have an Iphone so access should not be a problem.



August 30th, 2013
8:30 am

“The problem is that those who need to attend would never show up!”

The disdain you have for the poor is truly astonishing. Some wouldn’t show, many would (I know because I’ve worked in programs that offer these resources). You seem far more interested in looking down on people than reaching out to anyone. I truly feel sad for you.


August 30th, 2013
9:07 am

HB…I put that in quotes because that is what people TELL ME. Please do not feel sorry for me. No need. I was poor myself. We started our marriage out in a dumpy trailer with roaches. I worked at Wal Mart for $6 and hour and my husband was enlisted in the Navy. I have no disdain for poor people, only those who continue to milk the system instead of trying to make a way for themselves as we did.

Since you do not know me, you cannot know that I have organized quite a few food drives, book bag drives ( filled with supplies) for back to school each summer, books to be sent to poorer districts, clothing drives and other means to assist those in need. YES I have reached out to those in need and will continue to do so. I am all about helping people who need help. If you made your comment to people who know me, they would laugh at you.


August 30th, 2013
9:23 am

Glad to see I misunderstood your previous comment — apologies.


August 30th, 2013
9:30 am

This article has perfect timing for me. My 6 “3 10th grader is in public school for the first time ever, our choice. He plays 2 sports and has workouts everyday after school. In the morning he eats min. 3 eggs, bacon, oj and pancakes…so no lazy parent here. At school yesterday he tried to get extra food at lunch, the cafeteria worker snatched the food off his plate. They will apparently run out if kids get enough food to fill them up. He already packs pb&js and protein bars for afternoon before workouts but now I will have to pack a supplemental lunch. I will do it, it just doesn’t make sense!


August 30th, 2013
10:04 am

@HB..Yes she is and she has been reported, didn’t help..It’s not just her either..As I have mentioned before, in KY, you can buy energy drinks on your EBT card..I can not think of any reason that someone on EBT needs to buy energy drinks..EVER..

I have five people in my family that receive EBT due to disabilities (sp).. It’s sad to me that none of these family members receive enough to actually eat for the month, yet people that have 3-4 or 5 children and are to lazy to work (as in nephews wife) receive more than enough to feed their family and abuse the system..