Connecticut shooting: Hurts too much to even think about

I heard the basic headline Friday morning that there had been a school shooting in Connecticut. I heard it was bad, and I didn’t want to hear any more.

Michael texted me about it that morning. I told him I didn’t want to know details. I turned off the radio. I didn’t watch the TV, and I stopped looking at Facebook. It’s too awful, too terrible and I just don’t want to know the details. It’s just too painful.

I finally read one one account on Sunday morning and I just couldn’t read any more.

I am praying for all the families – including the shooter’s family. I keep tearing up, and I just can’t deal with it.

I didn’t want to tell the kids but I felt like we would rather them hear it from us than kids at school. Michael told Rose and I told Walsh. I just told him the very basics – no details. We didn’t talk to our sweet 5-year-old about it. I have kept her close in my arms all weekend loving her and squeezing her.

If I blog on other topics this week (happier topics), please don’t think it’s because I don’t care. It’s that it hurts too much to think about or focus on or even internalize. You guys are welcome to discuss all the angles but I just can’t.

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David Lane

December 17th, 2012
4:34 am

Theresa,

First of all I’d like to state that I’m not a American citizen….. I’m Australian.
Second….to all those American people that are feeling like I am ( so saddened ) …my condolences.
When I heard about the tragic shooting of these innocent children I was so heart broken and as a Australian it was hard to understand…….why you ask?
Well as a Australian gun laws are quite easy to understand, you own a gun you use a gun not as a defensive weapon…….but a tool.
Yes we have our share of shootings and always will, but in turn we have much fewer gun related crime.
I know what you are all going to say…… Australia is much smaller in population….. Yes you have a point but come on its about time you guys come to terms with the fact your gun laws are not working.
I don’t want to take away from Theresa’s heart felt comments but as a outsider I feel that I need to comment
20 odd children innocently slaughtered while they were doing what they loved……. Just going to school like all of us did………. Isn’t that enough everdence that enough is enough ? .
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my

catlady

December 17th, 2012
6:50 am

Theresa, I am with you on this. It is just breathtaking. Maureen Downey just listed the names and ages of the dead on her blog over the weekend, and that says it all to me. May God have mercy on us!

Jeff

December 17th, 2012
7:31 am

For the rest of their lives, Christmas just became a mourning period for an untold number of people.

CMK

December 17th, 2012
7:46 am

This is beyond sad, it is very hearth wrenching. For so many people, Christmas will never be the same! God help the families to get through this devastating time.

Mayhem

December 17th, 2012
7:52 am

I heard about it Friday, and cried…..at work. When I got home, I turned on CNN and cried again, so I had to turn it off. I wish there was something I could do to take the pain from those families. It pains me so when innocent babies are hurt. I haven’t talked about it, haven’t watched any news, and stayed away from the internet, facebook, etc all weekend. Went out with my girlfriends Friday night, and we did not discuss it at all…..1 mad man ruined so many lives. Thankfully he ended his life as well. Unfortunately we will never know what drove this person to this madness.

We basked in friendship and family all weekend. Yesterday, we decorated cookies, and I had a house FULL ……ranging from 9 years old to 53….I made 4 rolls of cookies, my oven was working overtime…LOL. I didn’t get to watch the Falcons game, but it was on the tv. We were listening to christmas music……

Today I told myself no facebook, no AJC, no Drudge……I can’t read anything about this horrible massacre of innocents.

Voice of Reason

December 17th, 2012
8:13 am

The worst part is the media. When this story first broke, the media was portraying the older brother as the shooter, running his name through the mud when he had absolutely nothing to do with this horrendous tragedy. Only after they realized they had the wrong brother, only some media outlets issues what I can only equate to an, “Our Bad.”

Oh and whoever took the Elementary school yearbook pictures of all of these victims and put together a mural and posted it to Facebook should be ashamed of themselves. Grieve in whatever way seems best for you, but posting pictures of dead children goes a little too far I think.

I put myself in the shoes of the parents of these victims. I would be furious if strangers were posting pictures of my dead baby on Facebook without my permission, and I would not care what rationale they were using to do it either. Just a different perspective I suppose.

xxx

December 17th, 2012
8:48 am

To the Aussie, I hear what you are saying but why no condemnation of the mother that allowed her brain damaged psycopath to roam free amongst us? After all mental illness is the cause of all of this, not access to weapons. As you say they were merely tools.

Mayhem

December 17th, 2012
8:52 am

Tighter gun control is not the answer. If someone wants to hurt, mame, kill, they will do it. Evil knows no limits. If not a gun, possibly a bomb, knife, etc.

I agree 100% with VOR. I wouldn’t want pictures of my baby all over the internet.

homeschooler

December 17th, 2012
8:52 am

@ VOR.. I agree. FB seems to cheapen the memory of these kids. I’ve deleted or hid every little picture, caption even sappy prayer that has a picture of one or all of these children on it. I have left the things that were posted on a Facebook page by their families and maybe some major news articles but just the little BS things with little sayings I get rid of. Just doesn’t seem right. I’m with you I’d be so mad as a parent to see my child’s picture all over the place like that. Captions about gun control or God. What if someone links a cause to these kids that their parents don’t agree with. Social media can be a great thing but it’s too easy for these kids and their memories to be exploited.

homeschooler

December 17th, 2012
8:54 am

agreed xxx and not only to roam free among us but to expose him to her arsenal of guns and take him target shooting. For her sake I’m thankful she is not here to see the horror caused by her son.

Jawga Boi

December 17th, 2012
9:09 am

I’ve been waking up at night and not only thinking about those sweet little kids but also wondering about the intense pain their families must now be enduring. I’m sure there are presents for the kids still under the Christmas tree that keeps the pain constant. Many people in my church walked down to the alter yesterday and got down on their knees and prayed for all of Newtown. In Sunday school we talked about something that made no sense and we couldn’t seem to understand. God bless you all and please continue to remember the Newtown families in your prayers.

Are you crazy?

December 17th, 2012
9:14 am

Yeah, guns are just tools. Tell me with a straight face why ANYONE needs a civilian M-16, unless you’re so stupid you think these government takeover scenarios are true. This killer had almost unlimited rounds and was using an assault rifle. Assault rifles, huge clips – that should be outlawed. You want a shotgun for hunting? Fine – kill all the deer, squirrels, whatever you want. But an assault rifle? That’s where your “RIGHTS” end.

Metro Coach

December 17th, 2012
9:20 am

Define the term “assault rifle”…

homeschooler

December 17th, 2012
9:39 am

@ Are you crazy? Yes, I too would like to know your definition of “assault rifle”. From what I understand the rifle used in this shooting was a semi-automatic. Pistols are semi-automatic. I don’t pretend to have any knowledge about guns but I think people have an image of fully automatic assault rifles being purchased by average citizens and used in these crimes but I don’t think that’s the case.

and on that note, I don’t own an assault rifle but I’d never be “so stupid” as to think a government takeover was NOT possible. Read a few history books. It is not unheard of and America is not immune.

Me

December 17th, 2012
9:45 am

This incident, as well as others, is indeed tragic and sad beyond belief. Regardless of your or my position, it’s highly doubtful that any gun control legislation will ever be passed. I also see no reason for anyone to own an “assault” rifle but I also care not if they do. It isn’t the weapon that causes harm. Had the CT shooter not had access to the rifle, I feel he simply would have used the two handguns. It’s obvious to me that the shooter’s mom had some knowledge and fear of perhaps what this son was capable. People in her scenario need access to help for both her and her child. Enact gun control if you like but that will not reduce the number of guns that already exist nor do I believe that gun control will effectively reduce the number and types of weapons available to anyone who wishes to find them. After all, the war on drugs has had little impact.

A

December 17th, 2012
9:53 am

It’s easy. Start with banning semi-automatic weapons. I read that since Australia banned such weapons there have been none, zero killings using those types of guns. How can the NRA and hunters argue against this? We also need to improve our mental health services to our citizens. I think between those two measures, we’ll make a good start to ensure this type of horrific tragedy never happens again.

chris

December 17th, 2012
10:12 am

Let’s not be nieve ! Guns are like car keys. A ” coming of age ” in American society where owning, loading, aiming and shooting begins at an early age in all sorts of settings.
It’s not about hunting or sportsmanship. It’s about the right to bare any arms and defend against other armed persons as prescribed in the constitution. To say otherwise is nieve !

Techmom

December 17th, 2012
10:16 am

Did anyone read the “I am Adam Lanza’s Mother” article?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/16/i-am-adam-lanzas-mother-mental-illness-conversation_n_2311009.html?utm_hp_ref=parents&ir=Parents

I have a close friend who has a child much like this boy though he does not have Asperger’s. But has been diagnosed with a slew of mental issues including attachment disorder. Unfortunately to the outsider, he seems perfectly normal. For 3 years after her other children were born she lived under tremendous guilt and stress b/c she was afraid her stepson was going to seriously hurt his siblings (she’d found him doing things when he thought she wasn’t looking). They got to the point where they put a lock and an alarm on his bedroom door or had the younger children sleep in their room with the door locked. Finally she nearly had a nervous breakdown and went to the school psychologist and had DFCS called on her. Instead of focusing on this child, they investigated her. The child is now living elsewhere but it has put a tremendous strain on her family, marriage and even other relationships as people don’t understand how she could “just give up on her child”.

Mental issues in children are becoming a larger problem in our society and while I don’t know what the solution is, condemning the parents for seeking help is not it.

really?

December 17th, 2012
10:41 am

There is a “how” and there is a “why” Unfortunately, the how was committed with guns, but there are many different methods of how. Taking guns away does not address the why. The why, is that man was so mentally ill. Help that is readily available to address people with serious mental health issues is what will stop these tragedies. Just like the ‘I am Adam Lanza’s Mother’ They wil continue to be a problem until you address what is causing it. And taking on the notion of “it hurts too much to hear about it” is just turning a blind eye to what needs to change. Those poor parents aren’t able to just turn the tv off and pretend that it didn’t happen.

redandblack

December 17th, 2012
10:43 am

been in tears much of the weekend over this. I dropped my 1st grader off at school this morning and thought… what if???

The first of the burials is today… just 8 days before Christmas. I’m sure those parents had their houses decorated, presents bought and everything, but Christmas won’t come for them. It’s so unbearably sad. It’s not just sad that they died, it’s so much worse because of the way they died… in a chaotic, terrifying hail of bullets. The fear and pain they must have felt in their final moments haunts me. I look at the innocence of my 1st grader and can’t imagine…

I did read the “I am Adam Lanza’s Mother” article and from my own family experience with Mental illness, everything she said is absolutely true. My cousin (2 years older than me) was Schizophrenic/BiPolar since childhood. We didn’t know what was wrong with him then, but we were afraid of him as children. He could turn on a dime from normal and fun loving to rage filled and violent. I later found out as an adult that there were horrors going on inside their home that no one knew about. He was raping his younger siblings etc. As a young adult, he broke into my parents house, stole their car, stole guns from another aunts house. His mother tried to get help for him. No one would take him. The corrections department (aka JAIL) didn’t want him, and she couldn’t get him committed. They literally told her that because he was an adult, that she couldn’t do anything unless he physically hurt someone. We were sure it was going to happen, but until it did, there was nothing she could do. In the end… he got into a fight with the wrong person and ended up dead in another city and was listed as a John Doe until the family was contated months later.

I believe that how we handle mental illness needs to be looked at in this country.

Me

December 17th, 2012
11:01 am

@chris — While I have some agreement with your point I think the words are “naive” and “bear” — I’m sure we shall never have laws that forbid anyone to “bare” their arms…
@A – The key to your comment is “… with those types of guns.” I’m sorry, but the type of gun used matters very little. Going back to “My Cousin Vinny”, does the deer really care what type of pants the hunter is wearing?

chris

December 17th, 2012
11:38 am

Boys will be boys ! Only this time there was one element, one scenario that would have saved all those lives.

DB

December 17th, 2012
11:48 am

I couldn’t turn away. To turn away, and not think about them, to me seemed a gross betrayal of human compassion. The parents couldn’t turn away, the police and the doctors couldn’t turn away — and I didn’t either. There’s a fine line between being a ghoulish spectator and sharing their grief . . .I don’t know what it is. I felt I was standing in solidarity with them. Painful? Yes. But only a shadow of the pain these parents are experiencing.

Hindsight is always 20/20 — and I want to smack people who point to Lanza’s mother and say, “Well, she should have known better — what a rotten mother, to let him loose on society!” No one can predict this kind of horror. No one sets out to create a monster. Even the boy, Adam Lanza, probably couldn’t have predicted it a year ago, or even six months ago. Mental illness does not follow sure and certain paths, and while it is comforting to think that “something could have been done,” it’s unrealistic. There’s a book out that was made into a movie a year ago — called “We Need To Talk About Kevin” that focused on a mother dealing with a boy who ended up in a murderous rampage at his school. The book is actually more powerful than the movie, although Tilda Swinton was amazing in the movie as the mother trying to make sense of her son, balancing a mother’s love with parental horror,and questioning her own mothering skills in the face of her husband’s denial.

I am aghast that people are using this tragedy as an opportunity to push through political agendas. After prior shootings, there were calls for additional school security. As a result, Sandy Hook had installed security. They felt safer. But it was just an illusion. The blood wasn’t even dry on the schoolroom floors before people started bleating about “Gun control would solve everything!” There is a time and a place for reasoned and considered discussion on the topic. This is NOT the time, when emotions are raw, and parents feel as if they are being used as political pawns — if they even realize what kind of debate is swirling around them. I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t, if I were them.

May God hold them close.

Chaos

December 17th, 2012
12:04 pm

I saw some religious nutjob post something on FB about how the reason why this happened is because God is not allowed in schools. THAT’S JUSTIFICATION?????? I cannot believe people would take advantage of a tragedy like this to push their own agenda’s. My faith in humanity is so low right now I seriously doubt it will ever recover.

I would use this tragedy as a prime example of proof that there is no God.

How can religious people rationalize this? HOW? You are supposed to be the ones that have yourselves together right? Your faith will get you through? Where is your God NOW?

Chaos

December 17th, 2012
12:05 pm

AND, more importantly, where was your God THEN?

luangtom

December 17th, 2012
12:12 pm

To the bloggers on here, I would like to ask,”Where is your outrage over the dozen young people killed in Chicago over the past weekend?” They are just as dead as those in CT, the families are grieving just as badly, yet the nation and its media say little about this because it is Chicago, mean-streets and all.

They have some of the most restrictive firearms laws in the nation and yet the perps do not follow the law, only law-abiding citizens do. Imagine that. Knee-jerk legislation is not going to quell the murder and mayhem on our streets. Just look at how well our War on Drugs has gone for the past decades. It is not working and we still have illegal drugs and users. Legislating away a problem does not work. We need to address the core of the problems. Why the innate need for drugs? Why the innate need to lash-out and kill due to anger and unresolved issues? Find those answers and we will not need knee-jerk legislation to try and alleviate our problems.

Just think of how many people medicate their children to make them easier to deal with, for parents and care-givers? Why do we do this? Ours is a society with no time to deal with problems and responsibilities. We medicate our children and send them off to school to have the teacher deal with them and to instill the morals and values that should be learned at home. Look at the backgrounds and histories of those that commit these heinous acts. I would say that most displayed warning-signs, but no one paid heed and lo and behold the acts were committed. Sad state we have all let our country get to……………..

Metro Coach

December 17th, 2012
12:16 pm

Shocking that everyone wants to ban “assault rifles” but no one cares to explain what exactly they think an “assault rifle” is. Probably because you don’t know, you just repeat what you hear on CNN, MSNBC, or one of the network news shows without regard for the actual effects these new regulations would have. Criminals don’t care about gun control laws because, well, they’re criminals. The law is not important to them. The only people left vulnerable if we banned guns would be law abiding people.

A

December 17th, 2012
12:36 pm

How about this: any gun that can shoot more than one bullet at a time should be banned. That should keep the hunters happy and keep military-style weapons out of civilian hands.

Ann

December 17th, 2012
12:37 pm

@ Mayhem – You are right that a person out to do violence could have used a knife or a bomb. But, the fact is, if he had used a knife, he would not have been able to kill 20 children with such speed and ease, and it would have been easier for an adult or child at the school to escape, intervene, stop and tackle him, at least before so many were killed. Kids can run pretty fast. If a knife penetrates, sometimes it is a wound, and not deadly. I’d much rather my child be trying to evade a knife attack than a military style assault rifle. And, with a bomb, there are a lot of unpredictable factors and, in many cases, homemade bombs fail or they are discovered before going off or the intended audience is small or not near at the time it goes off. In addition, the person needs access to place the bomb.

A military style assault rifle with high capacity clips that was used in this awful crime allowed the gunman to kill many children and adults extremely rapidly. These rifles were banned for over a decade starting in 1994, but the law was allowed to lapse. Sometimes when these laws lapse, the public may think it’s due to “protection of the right to bear arms”, when, in reality, it is about money; the lobbyists for the gun manufacturers protecting their profits and the politicians who receive their donations. A crime such as this will help put some true discussion on the table as to what is actually in the best interest of the American public, including children and finding some sort of balance that protects children more, while allowing weapons for basic protection, hunting, etc.

When the previous federal law lapsed, many states enacted their own bans, but the companies making these types of rifles have found various loopholes. In addition to Friday’s shooting, the Bushmaster company’s rifles were used in the Virginia mass shooting, the Washington Beltway shootings, and an Alabama shooting spree that killed 10 people.

What does someone need a military style rifle with clips that hold 100 bullets designed to stay in the tissue longer and tear it apart? If it is for sport or target shooting, why can’t they be allowed only at shooting ranges, but not off-premises?

Ann

December 17th, 2012
12:42 pm

@ DB – Just because a Mom or Dad speaks out about wanting to protect precious children such as this, including my own child, does not make it a “political agenda”. A “political agenda” is something all together different and certainly does not include many people with varying opinions on the issue.

redandblack

December 17th, 2012
12:47 pm

@Me — My cousin Vinny??? It’s been awhile since I’ve seen that movie so I guess I don’t understand your point.

I fully support our right to bear arms, however, I don’t understand the need for fully automatic and semi-automatic weapons in the hands of citizens. It seems the main argument from hardcore gun lobbiest is that they need those weapons to protect themselves incase the government runs amuck and turns on it’s citizens. Some agrue that they have the right to protect themselves using FULLY and SEMI AUTOMATIC WEAPONS agains a criminal breaking into their home etc. I have not done any research on this per say, but I’m guessing that most criminals are not breaking into homes with military grade weapons. So my point is, that I think most people own these high powered weapons for no other reason than they WANT them (aka a cool factor/collection)… and they don’t really believe that the government is going to turn on them.

Hunters certainly don’t hunt with them so that argument is out the window. So, help me understand, is the point just to have them because you WANT them? In the spirit of the arguement for a “Fair Fight” or in other words that “any citizen should be able to defend themselves with the same weapons that the government would use to attack it citizens” (again, this is an argument I hear alot from harcore gun rights protectors). But what if I WANTED a nuclear weapon? Should I be allowed to have one in my home? What if I WANTED Sarin nerve gas or other biological weapon? Should I be allowed? The constitution does say “right to bear arms”. I guess our forefathers did not forsee the advances in our capabilities to produce such weapons. But the same logic should apply… that we as citizens have the right to protect ourselves from our government with the same weaponry that they could use to attack us.

Okay, silly example right? Of course I do not want nuclear weapons or biological weapons in the hands of citizens just because the goverment could possibly use them to attack it’s citizens someday. But the logic should still apply. The problem is the potential cost to society would far outweigh the benefits of self defense. I think the same point applies to fully automatic and semi automaic weapons. They should be left to the military and not legal for citzens to purchase.

There will always be criminals and mentally ill (which I believe is the larger issue that needs to be looked at) doing bad things, but the damage could be far less if these weapons were not so readily available. 20 dead 1st graders riddled with multiple bullet holes with in a few minutes is just not acceptable! Military grade weapons are just not necessary in today’s society (for regular citizens) and are only being used for bad. Please educate me if I am wrong…. where are automatic weapons being used for good in the hands of citizens? To me, it seems that the “wants” of a few shouldn’t outweigh the saftety of the many. I know many worrry of the dreaded “slippery slope” but just in the same way that I consider the nuclear weapon argument not part of that slope, I also don’t consider automatic weapons as part of that slope. We can still have our right to bear arms for self defense without the absolute most deadly of weapons. I think the answer lies somewhere between taking military grade weapons off the market AND taking a long hard look at how we care for our mentally ill. Something has to change… compromise needs to happen.

Anyway, just a few of my thoughts. The first burial of one of those sweet angels is today. My thoughts and prayers are with their families. God Speed to them.

Ann

December 17th, 2012
12:48 pm

@ Metro Coach – When you speak about criminals not caring about gun control laws, you are speaking of your “run of the mill” every day type of criminal. These mass shootings are done by mentally ill persons who were “law abiding citizens” until they committed these crimes.

This Just In!

December 17th, 2012
12:56 pm

I just read an article where they state that Nancy Lanza, mother of Adam Lanza, was a survivalist who stockpiled food, water, guns and ammunition in fear of “global collapse.”

According to the New York Magazine, some friends and members of the Lanza family have allegedly portrayed Nancy Lanza as part of the “Doomsday Prepper movement,” a fringe section of American civil society who live in obsessed fear of collapse of civil society, based on conspiracy theories such as UN takeover of US, an Obama inspired conspiracy to impose dictatorship on Americans, and the Obama government “coming to take away our guns.”

According to the Daily Mail, Nancy Lanza was reportedly:

“Struggling to hold herself together and had been stockpiling food, water and guns in the large home she shared with her 20-year-old son in Connecticut.
“Mrs Lanza, 52, was a ‘prepper’ – so called because they are preparing for a breakdown in civilized society – who apparently became obsessed with guns and taught Adam and his older brother, Ryan, how to shoot, even taking them to local ranges.”

This woman appears to be as nutty as a fruit cake herself, and she dragged her son down with her.

Tina

December 17th, 2012
1:20 pm

Chaos, I for one am thankful these parents/grandparents/siblings have a God to lean on in these difficult times. I know I’ve prayed to him a lot the last few days to help them with their pain. Please don’t put my God down and I won’t call you an idiot.

Me

December 17th, 2012
1:28 pm

@redandblack — To my knowledge, there are no “legal” fully automatic weapons for the normal citizen. While deemed an assault rifle, the AR15 is not a fully automatic weapon and, without regard to the size of the magazine, still only fires one bullet with each pull of the trigger; the same as any other semi-automatic weapon including the two handguns in the shooter’s possession. People refer to a number of weapons, handguns and long guns alike, as being “automatic” when they really are not such at all.

Also, @A, there is no gun available to any citizen – and very few overall – that can actually shoot more than one bullet at a time; and even these guns require multiple barrells.

MomOf2Girls

December 17th, 2012
1:29 pm

I have refrained from commenting here, but I just can’t let this one go because it is possibly perpetuating a great untruth..

@This just in … The Daily Mail ranks right up there with The Globe and National Enquirer for journalistic integrity. While the “facts” you quoted may ultimately prove out to be true, the fact the the Daily Mail reported them would just be a coincidence as opposed to the result of thorough investigation. Do not besmirch this woman’s memory based upon a UK rag.

and by the way, @A – all guns fire bullets one at a time. The question is how rapidly they can spit them out.

Chaos

December 17th, 2012
1:33 pm

@Tina

You did not answer my question.

Fred ™

December 17th, 2012
1:39 pm

Wow. I made the mistake of reading a couple of comments on here. I guess I’m just a wuss like Theresa. I’m too sad to talk about it or read about it, my child slept in our bed this weekend.

But you folks go a head and post your drivel abut gun control or no gun control or whatever political crap you think is appropriate. I guess you have no heart. I would pray for you but God doesn’t listen to me and the truth be told, I think you are garbage anyway with no heart or soul.

Fred ™

December 17th, 2012
1:42 pm

Oh and Theresa? I agree with you. One of the best columns you have ever written IMHO just for the sheer simplicity and transparency of it. Hold your babies close because you never know if they will be taken from you. I hope they never are as I hope mine isn’t. That applies to everyone, even you cold-hearted rat bastiches arguing politics or god or whatever you childish meatheads have to argue about.

Me

December 17th, 2012
1:50 pm

@Fred – “no heart or soul”? Upon what do you base your comment and why do you feel that this discussion makes “garbage” of the posters? You have an opinion and you stated it yet; that’s all we are doing. As for me having no heart or soul, you are off base and simply dead wrong.
You also make a statement to TWG that this is “one of the best columns you have ever written” yet the very last sentence from TWG states “You guys are welcome to discuss all the angles but I just can’t”
Thank you for your input but that’s exactly what we are doing.

Fred ™

December 17th, 2012
2:03 pm

I refuse to stoop to your level. I still have a heart AND a soul………….. go argue with yourself or other asshats, I care not.

Chaos

December 17th, 2012
2:04 pm

@Fred

Last I checked we were free to express our thoughts in the comments section of this blog.

I do find it interesting that I still have received no answer to my question and the only responses that I have received from the faithful are angry and hostile.

My question is completely valid, given the circumstances.

Metro Coach

December 17th, 2012
2:10 pm

“Weapons that shoot more than one bullet at a time….keep military style weapons out of the hands of civilians” Good Lord, just stop, you don’t have the knowledge required to participate in this conversation.

Tina

December 17th, 2012
2:18 pm

Chaos, God gave us free will. He does not make our choices. His hopes are that we will all live in harmony but that’s not the case for some or even most. We, the people, are who is destroying our perfect world he created. I’m just asking that you not disbarge him. Your opionion is your right, so is ours.

Chaos

December 17th, 2012
2:23 pm

@Tina

May the invisible man in the clouds bring you solace.

homeschooler

December 17th, 2012
2:29 pm

@ Fred.. people handle things differently. I’m holding mine children close and grieving for others while trying to make sure I am doing everything possible to keep mine safe. To me that means having a hand gun, being prepared for any situation, trying to make sure no one takes my rights away to protect my family because people get so emotional they can’t reason or rationalize. When I say I don’t believe in gun control I’m not talking politics. I’m talking survival. This is how I keep my family safe. This is how I deal with a tragedy. We can never, ever control another’s actions but we can control how we respond. I will be as prepared as I can be. I don’t ever want to be the person cowering in a corner waiting to get shot, nor do I want my children to be. You may not want to participate in this conversation but not everyone who brings up guns vs. no guns has a political agenda. There are concerned and scared people on both sides.

redandblack

December 17th, 2012
2:31 pm

I disagree Fred. I think open respectful discussion is not “political driviel” and we are not “garbage” for participating .

We ALL feel the magnitude of this tragedy. To be honest, I do fear that if we wait until after the holidays to start respectful and meanful discussion, then our “guts” or will to make any changes will fade and we will end up caving to the typical political “drivel” that takes place when we’re past the initial shock of the tradegy. After that, the party lines dig in and nothing gets accomplished. I think now is the time for real discussion because it’s when most of us let our guard down to mourn and then are able see the negatives and postives of boths sides of the issue…. and when that happenes, compromise is more likely to happen.

@Metro Coach — if you have an opinion, please share. Just telling everyone they are not smart enough to participate in the conversation only makes you look ignorant and I’m sure you are not. I am honestly interested in the opinions of others.

Ann

December 17th, 2012
2:32 pm

I don’t think that there is anyone who is for gun control who thinks that it will solve everything. And to imply that people who are talking about ways to prevent these incidents don’t have a “heart and soul” is absurd. I guess, in some people’s mind, “looking for solutions” is political crap. It certainly doesn’t mean we haven’t been crying over these kids as much as you have Fred. Or, that we don’t hold and love our kids tight as well. A lot of people react by thinking “how can we stop these mass shootings”. It doesn’t mean you are heartless. It doesn’t mean we aren’t grieving for these children and families we do not know personally. Why is it that “expressing your opinion” is “playing politics” when it is an opposing view, but when it is your own view, you are just “speaking your mind” in a rightful manner.

Ann

December 17th, 2012
2:38 pm

@ homeschooler – You don’t believe in “gun control”. Not any laws, of any kind? No limits regarding age, mental illness, convicted felons, etc. We already have gun control. The question is, “do the laws need tweaking somewhat to keep certain types of weapons out of the hands of mentally unstable persons?” And, how are the rights of citizens balanced in ways that do not infringe on the safety of others? These are reasonable questions that all sides should consider.

Me

December 17th, 2012
2:56 pm

I own weapons and I still don’t need an “assault rifle” – or don’t feel that I do – in order to provide protection for my family and I. Within the confines of my house, I feel my handguns to be more suitable. I simply don’t have need for a long gun/rifle made for long range targets.
I do have a shotgun which works well at close range but, again, it isn’t as easy to manipulate.

@Ann — yes, I think existing laws can be tweaked or expanded in an effort to reduce the number of instances of weapons being in the wrong hands. By that same token, I would like to see more assistance available for those who perhaps may be considered a threat.

And, yes, I certainly have a heart and soul and I’m as saddened as anyone by the events in CT and my thoughts are definitely with those families and citizens.