Is a Confederate soldier costume out of bounds?
I was clicking through Facebook last night looking at all the different Halloween costumes and couldn’t help but pause on the little boy dressed in a Confederate solider costume carrying a very large Confederate flag.
I’m not sure why I paused. I love history and that’s an historical outfit but I just wasn’t sure it was OK. Grown men do Civil War re-enactments all the time and that seems OK. But is a Georgia Reb costume out there without the other side somehow offensive or insensitive?
We know from Prince Harry that Nazi soldier costumes are not OK. I am thinking that a KKK costume would definitely NOT be OK. So what historical costumes are off the table? What can you definitely NOT wear and are Confederate soldier costumes in that realm?
Quick aside: I would like to add that my favorite costume was my cousin’s husband and their baby. Hubby dressed as a giant gorilla and the baby was dressed like his banana! So cute!
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Phil from Athens
November 1st, 2012
1:16 pm
I smell a poopy and I cannot lie.
FCM
November 1st, 2012
1:18 pm
@mt I was in college before I learned that many of the churches in SC were built by “free blacks” and it was their slaves that built them
OMG
November 1st, 2012
1:19 pm
I love you mt.
Can I gay marry you later?
mt
November 1st, 2012
1:20 pm
Pride in starting a war that cost over 700,000 lives over defense of a business model fueled by slaves?
Most Southerners that fought in the war did even own slaves. Do you think all those men would go fight and many die, just so a few rich Southerners could enjoy the privelege of owning slaves,something that cost in today dollars as much as a Mercedes Benz?
FCM
November 1st, 2012
1:20 pm
Back off OMG. He’s mine.
FCM
November 1st, 2012
1:20 pm
mt – Gay marry me first!
mt
November 1st, 2012
1:22 pm
NO!
I will gay marry one of the Phils before I’d gay marry either of you.
Now, if you just want to cuddle…
54th Mass
November 1st, 2012
1:26 pm
The south proved you needed a strong central Federal government. They balked at signing the declaration of independence, they at first didn’t want to join the cause, and they made sure any mention of the slaves getting constitutional rights was removed before they would sign on. The south is like a juvenile delinquent who you tell to behave and the moment they turn their back, they are back at mischief. Sherman was right in his ’scorched earth’ policy. It was the only way to discipline a stubborn wayward child.
mt
November 1st, 2012
1:26 pm
Sorry guys, I’m so straight I don’t even use Ben Gay.The real mt has left the building.
54th Mass
November 1st, 2012
1:31 pm
Do you think all those men would go fight and many die, just so a few rich Southerners could enjoy the privelege of owning slaves,something that cost in today dollars as much as a Mercedes Benz?
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They did. Post war treatment of blacks by southern whites showed the contempt they had for those they deemed “property”. The fact that is wasn’t until 1969 that the remainder of southern schools integrated shows any thinking person the hate and stubborness of the southerners. If there was no federal oversight, schools would still be segregated in the south. Remember, most germans did not belong to the NAZI party, yet they fought to support it’s ideal. The History channel’s “The Final Days of the Third Reich” showed that clearly.
Forget hell
November 1st, 2012
1:44 pm
They did
Did they go and fight for the 12,000 black slaves owned by blacks themselves?
Oh and slavery used to legal in the north also. It was only because the north was not primarily an agricultural society that it was stopped.
AtlSteve
November 1st, 2012
1:45 pm
Well stated American History Teacher @ 1:10PM
Forget hell
November 1st, 2012
1:48 pm
If there was no federal oversight, schools would still be segregated in the south.
Funny we never had the busing issues they had in Boston, over intergration, and that was after the schools were intergrated in the south.
benny terry
November 1st, 2012
1:51 pm
It is never improper to show folks that you are proud of your heritage and history. Only those PC folks who have
no understanding of either of those complain about them. Most of those folks don’t even know their own history
or the history of their families. Be proud that your son does not have any of those preconceived ideas and has
the opportunity to learn the “real” history of our honorable ancestors.
Forget hell
November 1st, 2012
1:53 pm
The south is like a juvenile delinquent
What kind of delinquent is the north. A bully an aggressor.
benny terry
November 1st, 2012
2:01 pm
54th Mass you are one of those folks who never learned “real” history. Go to your library and research and you will find that Southerners did not fight for salvery; only a small percentage of them owned slaves. Slavery was an abomination, but you need to see where it came from and who sold them to the New England merchants who brought them to this country. The northern states had slaves as well; free blacks owned slaves; and the last state to officially abolish slavery was N.J. Look it up! States Rights was only a part of why the South ceceded; most of the reason was because of the tariffs the north put on Southern products and goods shipped to the north; do your research. There are two sides to every story, but the victors write the history books.
mystery poster
November 1st, 2012
2:05 pm
At first this was funny, now it’s just pathetic.
benny terry
November 1st, 2012
2:05 pm
mt, FCM, OMG obviously you don’t anyone to know your name, since you have these neat texting names. You also missed the point of this subject, wearing a Confederate uniform. No one on this site cares who you want to marry.
Rhett Butler
November 1st, 2012
2:23 pm
Franky, my dear, I don’t give a damn.
Cephus Jackson
November 1st, 2012
2:24 pm
Whar be my free gub’mint cheeze an Obama fone ?
Fo mo years !
jarvis
November 1st, 2012
2:25 pm
Lame costume, but I wouldn’t be offended.
Phil's lover
November 1st, 2012
2:27 pm
And now, thanks to Phil et. al., we see why Georgia will always be subject to the Voting Rights Act.
The “It’s Heritage not Hate” crowd do not know history. They know some tidbits and random facts but can’t for the life of them see the big picture.
It’s sad and as we can see, sometimes funny.
seabeau
November 1st, 2012
2:31 pm
In Georgia, the Confederate Uniform is still respected! The South was well within her Constitutional rights to leave the Union and the North took extralegal (read illegal) steps to stop her. (See the 9th and 10 Admendments of the Constitution) Three guarters of a MILLION Men were murdered by the Great Tyrant Lincoln! No other state in the world used violence to rid itself of slavery!
Bosephus Jones
November 1st, 2012
2:31 pm
Read the speeches of the Georgia secession convention of 1860. Then try to say with a straight face that slavery had nothing to do with it.
Freddie
November 1st, 2012
2:32 pm
I think a Gorilla costume is out of bounds and a banana costume is way way out of bounds!
Tiffany
November 1st, 2012
2:45 pm
The crazies have come out today!
FCM
November 1st, 2012
2:48 pm
TWG Please police the blog…Sybil and her multi-personalities have decided to become other people on the blog. I am sure if you look they wrote in purple crayon.
Omg
November 1st, 2012
2:50 pm
Gay marry me FCM!
mt spurned me and I want so much more than a cuddle.
FCM
November 1st, 2012
2:51 pm
@ benny terry you obviously are new and have no idea that FCM was shortened by other bloggers from my actual blogging name YEARS ago.
We do however have a preschooler or Sybil (see above) running amok on here today.
FCM
November 1st, 2012
2:52 pm
Spit paint or swallow, Omg?
Proud Southerner
November 1st, 2012
2:53 pm
My Great Great Grandfather fought for the Confederacy and his home state of Georgia. That is a proud part of southern history and our traditions. Southerners have been leaving home to fight for freedom for every generation in this country including the War between the States, and if any of you so called political correctness jerks think that a little kid dressing up for Halloween like one of his ancestors, then you can stuff it or run off to Canada like all of you did during my service in Vietnam.
Omg
November 1st, 2012
2:53 pm
PAINT!! ;)
The U.S. Government knows best
November 1st, 2012
2:53 pm
Confederate halloween costumes are not allowed, but its certainly encouraged to give your children taxpayer-funded condoms in grade school.
FCM
November 1st, 2012
2:54 pm
Too bad, I like spitters.
Phil from Athens
November 1st, 2012
2:56 pm
I back.
Who’s ready for some lovin’?
Tiffany
November 1st, 2012
3:16 pm
I heard Chris Brown wore a Taliban costume to a party yesterday. Now there’s an awkward costume…
FCM
November 1st, 2012
3:16 pm
The black population in 1860 was 4.5 million, with about 500,000 living in the South. Of the blacks residing in the South, 261,988 were not slaves. (per the census). According to the U.S. Census report in 1860 only a small minority of whites owned slaves. Out of a population of 27 million whites only eight million lived in the South, and out of this population fewer than 385,000 owned slaves.
Sooooo um…..yeah slavery was dying out there folks; …..But go ahead an perpetuate the sterotype that the Civil War was about greedy people owning slaves. The great emancipator only freed people in the Confederate states, an area he did not (at that time) govern, but keep lauding him.
Phil's lover
November 1st, 2012
3:28 pm
FCM lies.
http://cwemancipation.wordpress.com/2011/04/17/slavery-and-secession-1860-census-statistics/
Omg
November 1st, 2012
3:57 pm
“Sherman was right in his ’scorched earth’ policy. It was the only way to discipline a stubborn wayward child.”
Sherman is guilty of war crimes. Should have been tried and executed like the criminal he was.
Omg
November 1st, 2012
4:01 pm
54th Mass
November 1st, 2012
1:31 pm
You hypocrite, you talk down about the south and the legal culture they lived at the time but tell me about the legalities the North executed toward the American Indian and yes it was the north because the South was under “Reconstruction”.
Omg
November 1st, 2012
4:03 pm
I think I would look great in the Confederate uniform.
Omg
November 1st, 2012
4:05 pm
FCM
November 1st, 2012
3:16 pm
That has been reported thousands of times and yet we get those like 54th Mass spew. However you said it quite good.
TB
November 1st, 2012
4:08 pm
Great comments, Rebelrose. I’m glad someone knows the real history. It might also be mentioned that economics played a large role in the succession. The north had all the factories & the south had most of the raw materials needed for manufacturing. The problem was the north did not want to pay decent prices for these materials & virtually forced the south into the neccessity to use slaves (or in this case, free labor) to turn a profit. It’s always ironic to me how the democrats (Obama, Clinton, et. al) want to champion the cause of freedom & the environment while doing business with China & India, the greatest offenders of virtual slavery, human rights violations & pollution.
Omg
November 1st, 2012
4:09 pm
Bosephus Jones
November 1st, 2012
2:31 pm
I would be priviledged to read one BJ…no pun intended. post your source!
Confederate Mike
November 1st, 2012
4:22 pm
Thank You Rebelrose !!! From the bottom of my heart !!! I tip my hat to you My Lady.
I appreciate all of the required time you’ve spent on educating all the mislead and uneducated morons. I couldn’t have written it better myself.
Thank God there’s still educated folks out there whom take the time to protect the Confederate Soldier’s good name.
Much Obliged Rebelrose !!!
Deo Vindice, Confederate Mike.
WhiteRabbit
November 1st, 2012
4:37 pm
Nice outfit if you want your kid going around dressed up as a traitor.
FCM
November 1st, 2012
4:40 pm
http://slaverebellion.org/index.php?page=the-black-slave-owners
NOT PC
November 1st, 2012
4:45 pm
The Black Panthers that I knew when I went to Georgia State University in the late 70s usually wore a black beret, black leather jacket and jeans or fatigue pants. They were accounting majors and talked about political justification non-stop. Probably all are retired state employees now.
FCM
November 1st, 2012
4:58 pm
@ RebelRose…I appreciate what you wrote but find fault with a couple of items.
#2. Widows in NE colonies are reported/recorded to have voted. The only “citizens” able to vote had to own property (land holders). There is record of women (white and black) owning land through out American history. A strong arguement could be made that we should go back to that rule…that those with a mortgage (as opposed to rentals) should be allowed to vote…or only those that own their house outright with no liens against it. Granted we disenfranchised a large portion of the general population.
#7 not really a fault. Citing Lincoln’s action, FDR did simiar things during WWII.
#6. Had King George III won the revolutionary war it is likely that we would sing God Save the Queen and learn that Georgie Washington, Tommy Jefferson and Johnny Adams were traitors. The victors get to write history books….which is why most of the southern reason for secession are not in text books. Therefore, to those who favored a strong federal government the southern states were traitors. Although “Copperheads” obviously did not agree.
Georgia
November 1st, 2012
5:00 pm
The social media in 1865 was totally controlled by pulp-fiction newspapers and pulpit-fiction sermons. North and South. Our fellow citizens of the Lincoln Era inherited the Civil War from the Founding Fathers who had kicked the Slavery Issue down the road.