Did you ever fight physically with your siblings?

Henry County police are investigating if a 14-year-old girl stabbed and killed her 13-year-old brother in self defense.

Here is the latest on the story from the AJC:

“Malachi Andrews’ older sister told police she was protecting herself when she fatally stabbed him in the leg, police say.”

” ‘She told investigators it was in self defense,’ Henry County Police spokesman Maj. Jason Bolton said.”

“Andrews, 13,  and his 14-year-old sister were at  home alone on March 14, when a dispute between them turned deadly, police said.”

“The older sibling grabbed a knife and stabbed her brother, then called 9-1-1, Bolton said.”

“The wounded teen, a student at Union Grove Middle School, was taken to DeKalb Medical Center where he died two days later.”

“Authorities still have not determined whether to press charges against the sister, whom police are not identifying.”

” ‘We’re just gathering all the information that we can,’ Bolton said. ‘The [Henry County] district attorney will decide whether to file charges.’ ”

Henry County District Attorney Tommy Floyd said until his office receives the case from investigators, it’s too soon to say whether the teen will be charged.”

” ‘We’ll look at the facts and apply them as the law indicates,’ Floyd said. ‘Just as we do with all cases.’”

The investigation continues.”

I have to say that I totally buy this could be self defense. My brother and I were home alone after school as teenagers. He is three years older than me and we would often fight. And the fights would get physical.

He really knew how to push my buttons to make me mad – just as many siblings do. He would tease me about my big hair or being flat chested. I would get mad and try to hit him (sometimes getting a hit in) and then he would hit me back. (I took some big punches.) Often the disputes would end with him chasing me around the house and me running into a room and trying to lock a door behind me.  (Sometimes the chases were more in fun and sometimes they were more about self-preservation.)

And I do remember one time, my brother chasing me with a big kitchen knife and me running to my neighbor’s house telling her “My brother’s chasing me with a knife.”

I can totally see how this could be a possible scenario for this Henry County brother and sister as well. I hope the police work with the family to sort it out and don’t cause them more pain.

Did you have physical fights with your siblings? Did you hit, punch? Did you ever get chased around the house? Did you have to lock doors? Were knives ever involved?

What do you make of this case?

72 comments Add your comment

K's Mom

March 21st, 2012
2:26 pm

WOW! We fought, but I never remember a knife being involved. I remember my getting my hair pulled and scratching my brother. He also threw a big buckled, 80’s belt at me one time and put a big dent in my mom’s new piece of really nice furniture (we babysat and mowed lawns to pay for that. The funniest fight we had was when my brother mooned me right as my mom walked in the room. We also had an all out fiasco one time when packing my car for the dorm. But I cannot fathom us ever stabbing each other. We just flat out loved each other too much. We are pretty close now and do occasionally spar verbally. I guess the stabbing could have been a horrible accident, but I definitely cannot see our fight escalating to that!

Techmom

March 21st, 2012
2:29 pm

My brother and I used to duke it out but never with weapons. If it was self defense, I still hope they make the girl get counseling and anger management. I’m sure she didn’t think she would actually kill him- especially since she stabbed him in the leg, not the chest or neck. Living with the guilt that you killed your brother, likely over something really dumb, is probably enough punishment.

I do think it’s interesting that the boy lived for a couple of days before passing. I wonder if he was able to talk to his sister or parents… ahh, to be a fly on the wall in that hospital room.

Ron

March 21st, 2012
2:41 pm

Too sad of a situation to even comment on either way.

Augusta

March 21st, 2012
2:42 pm

oh hell yes!!! We fought tooth and nail growing up. But you would never know that now. We are as close as can be. Just Monday we had lunch together.

One incident – we were fighting and I threw a couch pillow at my brother, who happened to be standing in front of Mom’s Christmas dishes. He ducked, the pillow hit several christmas plates, two fell on the floor and broke. We blamed the cat.

Another incident – He ran into the bathroom, shut the door. I kicked the door and my foot went right through it. I got blamed and got stitches in my foot. Had to do yardwork for a month. BY MYSELF.

Another incident – fighting in the kitchen. He throws an apple at me. It breaks the coffee pot and splatters all over the refridgerator. I took the blame, said I dropped the coffee pot after I washed it. Weeks later, as we were moving the refrigerator we found some apple splatter we missed….Mom wanted to know if either of us knew of an exploding apple? No one got blamed for that…LOL.

Ahhhh good times…..and memories….

Now don’t get me started on MY kids fighting…..Oh Lordy….

Ellen

March 21st, 2012
2:43 pm

I had violent fights with my siblings–which isn’t surprising considering that we grew up in a home where violence was normal. It is by the grace of God that we didn’t end up killing one another. Although some of our injuries did merit emergency room care.

mom2alex&max

March 21st, 2012
2:44 pm

Oh heck yes. Never with weapons, but it I did “stab” my sister on the knee with a pair of scissors once. I can see how this unfortunate situation could happen.

Becky

March 21st, 2012
2:49 pm

Yeah, we fought physically..I remember one of my sisters threatening to stab both of my brothers if they turned the TV from what she was watching..This same sister has a scar on her leg that she got from trying to stop me and my younger brother jumping on the bed..You name it, we fought about it, but as K’s mom said, we still loved each other and no one else ever picked on any of us..

BigDAD

March 21st, 2012
2:50 pm

I agree with TechMom, that having to live with this is enough punishment. This is such an awful tragedy, and hopefully other families out there can learn from this. Never pick up a weapon to use on anyone you don’t intend to seriously harm. This should not be thought of in the context of self defense, because I doubt if her brother was out to really hurt her. My prayers go out to his family. They will all need counseling and time to heal their family back together.

KoolAid House

March 21st, 2012
2:57 pm

I had many fights with my sister. One in particular was her kicking me in my stomach. I retailated by throwing all her closet down into the alley. I got the spanking of a lifetime, but to this day I still feel it was worth it.

Voice of Reason

March 21st, 2012
3:04 pm

Growing up:

Would I throw things (usually pine-cones) at my siblings?…………………………..Yes.
Would I verbally fight with my siblings?…………………………………………………..Yes.
Would I get into a fist fight with my (male) siblings?…………………………………..Yes.
Would I (at age 14) pull out a knife and stab my siblings in the leg?……………….HELL NO!

Two things come to mind while reading this story:

1.) It’s all fun and games till things get all stabby.
2.) Never bring a knife to a fist fight.

This girl is 14 and old enough to know better.

I blame their parents. They should have taught their precious little snowflake long before now that there are consequences to her actions. Or maybe they just didn’t care…who knows?

KoolAid House

March 21st, 2012
3:10 pm

@Voice – I grew up in NYC and my sister was a card carrying knife person. She would run to the kitchen in a NY minute and throw a knife at you. She never did to her siblings, but she has done it to friends.

Voice of Reason

March 21st, 2012
3:15 pm

@KoolAid House

How accurate was she? I only ask because as a parent I might want to know why there were these weird 2-3 inch long slits in my walls and furniture upholstery.

A Friend

March 21st, 2012
3:18 pm

It saddens me to read the comments left by people whom are so judgmental. “If you want to know how it is to be me, walk a mile in my shoes.” This family is a good family that has had a tragedy that will change their lives forever. A little consideration for them is not much to ask. The parents are the most caring parents I know. Just because the fight you had with your sibling didn’t involve weapons doesn’t mean you are better or worse than this families challenge.

Augusta

March 21st, 2012
3:18 pm

@Voice – I love #1 – “till things get all stabby”…..I LOL’d….

KoolAid House

March 21st, 2012
3:22 pm

@Voice – good point. Thank goodness, she wasn’t accurate, but there were 3 holes in the walls my brother plastered and painted back before mother got home. After the first incident, we kept small sample jars of paint hidden in the apartment.

Voice of Reason

March 21st, 2012
3:23 pm

@A Friend

I get that you are sympathetic to this family and the grief that they are going through. Yes, it’s a horrible tragedy. One that should have been avoided.

I’m sorry but the simple fact that you feel the need to defend the fact that WEAPONS were involved at all in this situation saddens me more than anything else I’ve read on here so far.

Consider that!

mom3boys

March 21st, 2012
3:23 pm

Once my brother said, “If you come in my room, I’ll bust your head open!” As mom walked in, he was sitting on my back, holding my head by my hair, repeatedly smashing my chin into the hardwood floor. I think I got 4 or 5 stitches…I never miss an opportunity to tell his kids the story. My mom made him sit in the ER and watch the doctor sew me up. I think we were 6 and 4. All fights after that (and there were plenty) were strictly verbal.

KoolAid House

March 21st, 2012
3:25 pm

@A Friend – I can definitely understand how this has gotten out of hand. I hope it comes down to no charges being filed. Siblings fight all the time short of killing each other. Unfortunately, this one got more than a little out of hand. My condolences!

Peckerwood

March 21st, 2012
3:28 pm

Henry County AKA Clayton County South!

Moving from Henry County to the Northside 5 years ago was the best decison me and my family have ever made!!

TWG wrote...

March 21st, 2012
3:31 pm

…”I do remember one time, my brother chasing me with a big kitchen knife and me running to my neighbor’s house telling her “My brother’s chasing me with a knife.” “I can totally see how this could be a possible scenario for this Henry County brother and sister ”

Poor white trash in Gwinnett County, and, who knows what in Henry County – you have to be kidding me if you think this is the norm in “most” families

Michael – be afraid, be very afraid…

mystery poster

March 21st, 2012
3:31 pm

Ha, yes!
I remember breaking a plate on my brother’s head once. I still say he deserved it.

Wayne

March 21st, 2012
3:44 pm

@Theresa: Sorry Theresa, but I can’t get my mind of your, well… bust. Flat chested, and ya jus lost 3 inches off of it? Oh wait, you did say it was when you were younger… Nevermind, I’ll stop thinking about your bust.

Move along. Nothing to see here.

nomaj

March 21st, 2012
3:45 pm

It’s a tragedy, but the girl killed someone with a deadly weapon, and she must pay the consequences. So sad.

Voice of Reason

March 21st, 2012
3:45 pm

And then Wayne gets creepy and everyone goes silent.

[crickets chirping]

KoolAid House

March 21st, 2012
3:45 pm

” Move along. Nothing to see here.” – FUNNY!

KoolAid House

March 21st, 2012
3:59 pm

nomaj – you agree that the trigger happy wannabe policeman who killed that teenager in Flordia with a deadly weapon must “pay the consequences” too? Apparently, many don’t think so.

Denyse P

March 21st, 2012
4:02 pm

What a terribly sad story! My brothers and I fought as kids, but it was mostly verbal. The only time anyone landed it the hospital was when we thought it would be fun to have a jousting match — using limbs from a rose bush. Bad idea. A thorn went through my thumb and I had to go to the ER to have the thorn removed and get stitches. But, that was all in fun. I would have never used a weapon in a fight with my brothers.

That "wannbe policeman" in FL...

March 21st, 2012
4:07 pm

…is gonna do time – he was clearly in the wrong and the DA and Grand Jury will indict him…it was not pre-meditated but he was stalking the kid and was told by the 911 operator NOT to follow the kid…

And, Wayne...

March 21st, 2012
4:09 pm

…you may be late to the party, but Theresa has told us numerous times that she outgrew the “flat-chested” thing and is now a quite well endowe; so, yes, she has it to lose…

K's Mom

March 21st, 2012
4:10 pm

@Augusta, I wish my mom had believed that the cat did it when we messed up her new furniture. She had saved for about 5 years for that piece and it had been delivered for less than a week. That is the only time we got sent to bed without a hot dinner…we may have gotten bread and water that night.

Looking back our fights are pretty funny and we did learn a lot about living with someone else when we had our disagreements.

@A Friend…I am glad this family has a support system, they will need it. If it was an accident, then the guilt will definitely be punishment enough. If it was more than that, then I do think there have to be consequences.

Mattie

March 21st, 2012
4:11 pm

Nope, no physical fighting among myself and my 6 siblings, nor between my three boys. I wonder how much of this can be traced back to physical punishment by parents?

jmb

March 21st, 2012
4:11 pm

My brother and I constantly fought. One time I aimed a BB gun straight at him and fired hitting him in the hand. I was aiming for his face ;{ It was a constant battle in our house until he turned about 13 and stood a good foot taller than me. I punched him during an argument like I normally did and he laid me out flat. I never messed with him after that. Wish we could go back to those times now and make a lot of changes. He’s been gone for 5 years now and I hate that we didn’t cherish more good times together.

atllaw191

March 21st, 2012
4:16 pm

The fact that the “Neighborhood watchperson” followed the “supposed” aggressor does not support a “self-defense” status.

Jesse's Girl

March 21st, 2012
4:20 pm

Weapons? No. Not so much. But my sister and I were very violent with one another. It usually stemmed from the fact that she was a complete tattle-tail-nazi and turned EVERYTHING into an opportunity to crawl up our mom’s colon. Wait. I take that back. I did in fact throw a baked potato at her face once. It hit her. I was delighted. But the most beautiful retribution was when she had pushed me to the brink and instead of freaking out on her…I went the more passive route. In highschool, I got home before she did. (she was in middle school and still had to ride the bus)I locked all the bolts and when she tried to get in to have her usual bathroom time…the poor dear couldn’t get in. I was conveniently in my bedroom with my walkman in my ears…so I couldnt hear her. (sad face…) Anyway…she pissed her pants on the front porch. It was fabulous. And I didn’t even get in trouble.

Now per this horrid situation…depending on the family dynamic…I can absolutely see this happeneing. The brother could have been trying to harm her physically or sexually. Either way, this child will live with this for the rest of her life. Its very sad.

KoolAid House

March 21st, 2012
4:22 pm

Yes, he was looking for trouble, he made his own trouble, now a young promising young kid is dead. He has ruined three households, the kid’s household he shared with his parents, his girlfriend’s household because she’s a basket case, and his own household, because he’s going to prison….and, his hopes of becoming a police officer are now SHOT!

K's Mom

March 21st, 2012
4:23 pm

@Mattie, give me a break. We were not punished physically and still had some physical fights. The looney toons were huge in the 70’s and 80’s so I will blame watching Wiley Coyote for dropping an anvil on the road runner.

@atllaw191, you are so very right.

FCM

March 21st, 2012
4:23 pm

My Mom offered to build us a boxing ring and sell tickets!!!

We did not use sharp objects….she did pull him off me once becuase he had me pinned with a pillow over my face. I learned to twist my head so I could breathe and he never knew it. He told everyone I was good at holding my breath.

Like others said, when we got to be teens it pretty much stopped. I had bruises all over my back (armadillo defense) and my folks were like..ok here is where we draw the line you are both too dang old for this crap. We admit that if we were not siblings we would not be friends, we are too alike in many ways and the ones we differ on still argue about.

We also both agree that we love each other very much and will help the other any time it is needed.

KoolAid House

March 21st, 2012
4:23 pm

@atlaw – exactly. He followed him, a young boy walking and talking on the phone. Like our parents told us growing up, a hard head makes a soft ass, and his will be quite moist in prison!!!

Jesse's Girl

March 21st, 2012
4:26 pm

@Mattie: trust me…your boys will be pounding eachother behind your back before too long. Its normal. And the presense of such behavior has NOTHING to do with getting a spanking. But it DOES have everything to do with testosterone. And if you have somehow managed to place the fear of G-D into them regarding this natural progression of things..rest assured…they will eventually clobber somone. If simply to see what its like. It won’t make then bad kids. It won’t make you a bad parent.

vetta

March 21st, 2012
4:27 pm

I’m guilty of doing this when I was young and in my early teens. Whenever my parents would leave us home alone, my brother and I would always end up getting into a fight and I would grab a butter knife :-) or that small knife with blades and try to attack him with it. He would always run away from me and lock himself in a room or our older sibling would intervene. It’s kinda funny now that we’re grown and whenever he get into an argument with someone, he pulls out a knife. He’s been in two fights where he actually used it though :-(

FCM

March 21st, 2012
4:27 pm

rofl @ mom3 boys….I totally forgot a similar incident. My Mom walked in because I was screaming…..My brother had me pinned scraping my head with the dinner fork. Mom said, don’t do that you could puncture her brain! He said “I am trying to find her brain!!!!!” He did get big trouble for that and never did something like that again either.

KoolAid House

March 21st, 2012
4:33 pm

@FCM – have to give your brother some credit, because that was a great comeback. :wink:

charlene

March 21st, 2012
4:35 pm

Have to say this brings up very bad childhood memories. My brother & I would fight a lot and it would get physical. I vividly remember him holding me by my throat against a door for about an hour. Maybe my memory is stretching the time longer but it was longer than 10 – 15 minutes for certain. He was 14 and I was 12 at the time. He said he picked on me because he wanted attention and he didn’t really care if it was good or bad attention. It was hell growing up with him. He would slap me around (literally) just for kicks. I’d get him back sometimes but it was never the same measure.

He would also be the one who would defend me against other kids picking on me. Don’t really know why other than that he wanted me as a fighting toy to himself.

I don’t remember any knives or other weapons but there are other kinds of punishment, and they were enough. Our parents were divorced and our mom always just cried and said she wished we would just get along when she found out what had happened. Nothing was EVER done about it.

I feel sorry for this family, but I too can totally see this happening.

FCM

March 21st, 2012
4:39 pm

@ Kool Aid, I was busy bleeding at the time. However yes it was clever. I seem to recall my Mother saying something like “Trust me it is in there!” but when she told story years later, she did admit she had to bite her tounge to keep from laughing at his remark.

KoolAid House

March 21st, 2012
4:50 pm

@FCM, I bet. I bet. Parents can laugh like that in front of the children.

KoolAid House

March 21st, 2012
4:51 pm

CAN’T laugh like that…

Wayne

March 21st, 2012
4:58 pm

On Topic: I don’t recall getting into any physical fights with my sister. I do remember us getting in trouble together though. We had some good times. Did we fight? Yeah, we wouldn’t be normal, I guess. Nothing physical though.

A

March 21st, 2012
5:12 pm

Maybe it’s not so bad to have one kid after all!

Denise

March 21st, 2012
5:19 pm

My brother and I fought. My parents don’t even know that we did. I used to kick his butt…until one day he whipped me so good my rollers came out of my head. That was our LAST fight. Believe that! LOL! Now, I would fight ANYBODY that looked at him sideways (and vice versa) and I wasn’t afraid to pull a weapon…I didn’t graduate to knives until I was an adult, an only when I felt physically threatened. I did whip this boy with a bat but he hit me first… And no, Mattie, I didn’t get a lot of whippings. If you ask Daddy he’d say I got none but I remember ONE “good” one my Mama issued in the 2nd grade.

Bernie

March 21st, 2012
5:34 pm

As Bad as this situation is and like many other domestic situations that happen everyday, this one in Henry County, is just another one of them. There should be more reporting by the AJC and more of a discussion of the TRAYVON MARTIN case that occurred in Sanford Florida the TRUTH be told.