Would you take your kids to a protest?

A new group has started to occupy Wall Street – parents and their kids.

From The Huffington Post:

“Thirty-five days into New York City’s Occupy Wall Street protest, a new type of crowd — 500 parents with their children — gathered in Zuccotti Park. The event, sponsored by Parents for Occupy Wall Street, was a family sleepover that started at 4 p.m. on Oct. 21 and ran through 11 a.m. on Oct. 22. It came complete with crafts, storybooks and … politics.”

“The reason for a sleepover? On parentsforoccupywallstreet.com, organizers say:”

“The group’s goal is to raise awareness of the diversity of people supporting the movement. In the press, there is an assumption that the only people supporting the movement are solely homeless or unemployed … With even a short visit to Liberty Plaza, you will see all walks of life supporting the movement, including middle class working families.”

The article says that parents and kids have showed up earlier but this was en masse and orchestrated. Extra precautions were taken to keep the children safe in a crowd and over night:

“Parents for OWS put extra security measures in place. They created a contained “Child and Family Only” area within Liberty Plaza that was accessible via an ID-required checkpoint only. Protesters who had been involved in Occupy Wall Street — both parents and non-parents — volunteered to help with protection, clad in neon yellow tees.”

I remember going with my father to some protests by Catholic families downtown at the capitol. They were sponsored by the Catholic church and during the daytime. So I think it was a fairly safe and family-friendly environment.

We had a teacher in high school that encouraged activism and a few of us met her at another protest downtown. That went pretty well until we had to figure out how to get change to take the Marta back to Gwinnett.

I haven’t taken my kids to any protests, but I would if it was something I believe in. I think it’s good for kids to learn about activism and how they can make change in their country. I want them to embrace their political efficacy. (Now spending the night outside is out of my comfort zone. I don’t want to get sick.)

What do you think of these parents taking their kids to a protest? Were you ever taken as a kid or teen to a protest? Would you take your child to a protest (it could be Tea Party, Pro Life or any cause)?

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Whys

October 24th, 2011
1:01 am

We took our 2 year old daughter to our local occupy march. Our marches couldn’t be more peaceful tho. If there were a genuine concern of violence, we’d leave her with Grandma.

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fcm on cell

October 24th, 2011
2:09 am

Depends on age of kids. Could be a reachable moment. Kids should see peaceful demonstrations of your beliefs. I know several who took their teens to tea party rally

mike petersen

October 24th, 2011
2:23 am

It’s important that the family is represented in this worthy cause. It’s their future that was sold.

1Truth_Teller

October 24th, 2011
3:12 am

‘Wall Street’ and the orgy of greed called ’sub-prime’ led to present circumstances, and the $600 trillion derivative market is waiting to implode, recent regulatory moves being quietly eviscerated by those ‘capable bankers’ that brought us the so-called ‘Financial Crisis’, and themselves obscene bonuses for their ’success’.

Wealth isn’t a crime; however, many consider the manner in which the financial markets have evolved and are run a ‘monstrous’ offense, even though virtually none are prosecuted. However, The Christian Science Monitor had an article on alternative banking a couple of years ago ( http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2009/0622/p06s16-woeu.html ), one which ends by noting…

”Jakob von Uexküll, founder of both the British-based World Future Council and Sweden’s Right Livelihood Award (also known as the ‘alternative’ Nobel Prize), argues that banking interests have become so powerful that they have been effectively able to ‘take over governments to get the kind of legislation they needed.’

Referring to the megabanks, Mr. von Uexküll adds, ‘They need to be dismantled…. If an economic entity is too big that it threatens the state, it threatens democracy.’”

I think that for any that doubt Mr. von Uexküll’s vision, or don’t understand why the ongoing effort is ‘Occupy Wall Street’, a reading of former president FDR at a not dissimilar moment is in order…

“The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism — ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power.”

I wonder why, again, at a moment in time not dissimilar to our own, FDR said this…

Godspeed to ‘Occupy Wall Street’!

larkforsure

October 24th, 2011
4:40 am

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Typical Democrat

October 24th, 2011
6:30 am

Carry your children…we must destroy capitalism and establish socialism.

shaggy

October 24th, 2011
6:53 am

How many of these occupy protesters would take a job in south Georgia picking vegetables, an entry level job at a supermarket, or one of the many skilled jobs that are looking for workers?

Ohhh, I forgot they don’t want to do actual work for money. They want the government to take yours and give it to them for doing nothing. I will try to remember that working hard, taking chances with your money, and being rewarded by having more money is a bad un-American trait that must be discouraged at all costs…hence the creation of the United “socialist” States of America.
My bad.

shaggy

October 24th, 2011
7:06 am

1Truth_Teller,

Yet, you seem to miss the history lesson about FDR, and the government facism that he was commenting on. Nazi facists, Italian facists, and Japanese imperialist empire were the subject of comparison, not American business. He knew that only with our combined industrial might and free enterprise economy, could we stand as the bastion of freedom, even supplying the allies with needed war materials, as we fought ourselves. Only America could have done that.

Either you don’t know about context, or you used the quote in a dishonest way. Which was it?

BEND OVER -Here Comes the Change

October 24th, 2011
7:18 am

Get real. Do kids even understand the whole picture?

motherjanegoose

October 24th, 2011
7:19 am

@ shaggy…today I agree 100% with your 6:53 post…do not faint! My daughter went with me, for a meeting this weekend, and we talked about the protest. She has seen plenty of people who have worked hard and made a way for themselves financially. She has also seen plenty of young people who have never had a job.

After catlady’s 3:18 comment last week on ADHD, I did a little more research and saw this … thought of you:

80% of adults with ADHD don’t know they have it. Some will self
medicate with negative methods; drugs, alcohol, gambling, high risk
activities, conflict and violence. vs positive methods.

Climbing? Too high risk for me but then I do not camp either…haha!

NAGA

October 24th, 2011
7:56 am

How about taking your kids to a ceremony/funeral of those deceases soldiers returning from Iraq/Afghanistan???

Wanna go camping – join the Cub/Boy/Girl Scouts. They go camping all the time.

These are the real heroes; not these clowns in the Ocuupy crowd.

T N T's Mom

October 24th, 2011
8:05 am

I want to know what kind of jobs these protesters have that they can miss so much work? Oh wait do they even have jobs?

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October 24th, 2011
8:05 am

There’s NO way I’d take my kid to an Occupy or Tea Party protest, as my kid is neither an anti-semitic freeloader (Occupy) nor a cross-burning hatemonger (Tea Party).

ylojkt

October 24th, 2011
8:21 am

It continues to amaze me how many people defend the criminals in our govt and on wall street against their own best interests. It just goes to show you what an effective propaganda machine can get you, you would think we’d have understood how that worked with the Nazis in WW2. Keep watching the middle class disappear and the gap between the wealthy and the rest of us, all the while praising our corporate government and their actions. Fools, all of you who criticize.

  

October 24th, 2011
8:41 am

There’s NO way I’d take my kid to an Occupy or Tea Party protest, as my kid is neither an anti-semitic freeloader (Occupy) nor a cross-burning hatemonger (Tea Party).

Your post was without merit, stupid, and over-dramatic. Thanks for wasting the posting space.

Clay

October 24th, 2011
8:42 am

These protesters are speaking out against the backbone of the American free market society and capitalism. Instead of being jealous that large companies are turning a profit, buy stock in these companies so you can share in their good fortune. Socialism isn’t the answer.

As someone above said, most of these folks must be unemployed if they can camp out downtown for so long. Those of us who work for a living have more important things to do than protest capitalism.

I Love Life Cereal

October 24th, 2011
8:45 am

I would take them to this particular “protest” and say: “Look what happens when you don’t have marketable skills and a work ethic. Look what happens when you don’t stand on your own-you always look to blame someone else.”

But it should be pretty obvious anyway, as it is not possible for average, reasonable, responsible people to become full-time “protesters” as opposed to working and taking care of their families and responsibilities.

DB

October 24th, 2011
9:05 am

I think there are far better ways to effect change and protest against the wrongs you see other than sleeping out in a tent in a carefully secured area at a media event surrounded by hundreds of people screeching against capitalism while at the same time yapping on their cell phones and coordinating their actions via computers.

From Tim Franzen...

October 24th, 2011
9:06 am

…who is the spokesperson for Occupy Atlanta – “There needs to be space created for the super rich people, to have their wealth taken away and redistributed and spread around to those who need it”…

He’s 34 years old, works for something called American Friends Service Committee – as Neal Boortz would say, just one of the real Dumb Masses…

JATL

October 24th, 2011
9:18 am

I think it’s great to take your kids to protests and marches for the causes that mean something to you and support ideas you want to instill in them. I certainly wouldn’t take my kids to a “pro-life” rally, but I have taken them to a few pro-CHOICE rallies. I take my kids with me to vote so I can tell them why it’s such an important right to have, and I think they also need to understand that we’re lucky to be able to assemble and protest whatever we want without being gunned down or incarcerated for our beliefs.

homeschooler

October 24th, 2011
9:29 am

I’ve been to some Tea Party movements. Very calm, very patriotic, full of valuable life lessons. I would take my children to one. I’ve not seen first hand the demonstation downtown so I’m not sure if I would take my child there. Even if I agreed with the protest.
I can’t see having my 8 yr old hold up a sign that is extreme with any polictical belief because (obviously) she is not old enough to believe any one way or another. My 11 yr old is already a pretty strong republican and would probably make his own sign :-).
I wonder how these anti capitalists think that the United States could survive without big corporations. I’m not rich but my husband and I can appreciate that those who are pay enormous amounts of taxes and provide jobs to the middle class. We also own a company and purposefully do not grow and succeed futher because we are terrified of the heavy tax burden that will be placed upon us if we work harder and make more money. We could grow and hire more employees but our liberal (leaning toward socialist) government makes it impossible. The constant message in America is “don’t bother working hard, it will get you nowhere”. So we keep our company small and take personal responsiblity for exactly where we are financially.

Sylvania

October 24th, 2011
10:48 am

If my kids couldn’t behave in a post office, I certainly wouldn’t be taking them to a protest.

@homeschooler, who wrote “The constant message in America is “don’t bother working hard, it will get you nowhere.” Oh really? I wonder where, specifically, homeschooler “constantly” hears that message? At her teabag meetings, perhaps?

I Love Life Cereal

October 24th, 2011
10:52 am

I wonder where, specifically, homeschooler “constantly” hears that message? At her teabagOccupy meetings, perhaps?

There you go. Fixed that for you.

Play nice with your brother

October 24th, 2011
11:02 am

I took my 12-yr-old to a “Moms for Peace” anti-war demonstration back in 2004. It was peaceful. We held up candles and signs that said, “Moms for peace.” Some tool in a beamer drove by and flipped us off. I thought, “Hmmm… What part merited the obscenity? Moms, or Peace?” Some people have causes; others have issues.

jarvis

October 24th, 2011
11:30 am

I am way to moderate to attend an event myself much less force my kids to go to one.

homeschooler

October 24th, 2011
11:43 am

“I wonder where, specifically, homeschooler “constantly” hears that message? At her teabag meetings, perhaps?”

I hear that message when public schools don’t give awards for field day activities. When businesses that earn 20 percent more than mine get taxed twice as much. When a I see people on section 8 living in houses just like mine and not paying a dime for them. When Nancy Pelosi says that artists should be allowed to follow their dreams and not have to worry about working to pay the bills. I could go on forever. Personally I believe that working hard DOES pay off. Unfortunately the liberals of America are trying their hardest to change that.

oneofeach4me

October 24th, 2011
12:11 pm

I am with Jarvis. I will educate my kids on FACTS (politifact is a tool I use OFTEN), the importance of voting, and give them my opinion and let them form their own. My view on politics fairs differently from my parents being we grew up in different times and experienced different things. So may be with my kids.

Just one note on the “Occupy” protests though. From what I understand majority of them are college students and very young adults and those who have been laid off in the financial, banking, and mortgage industries. Plus, the rallies have thus far been pretty peaceful. Everyone has their own opinion in life, especially when all you care about is you and yours. The neighbors and their children don’t really count. IJS.

FCM

October 24th, 2011
12:16 pm

“Get real. Do kids even understand the whole picture?”

Many I think are at least starting too. As I mentioned last week at least one well rated Cobb County HS has an alarming number of Freshman flunking 2 or more classes. I also just learned they are now seeing an abnormal drop-out rate in the school, which is of course a concern. These are almost always directly related to the teens experiencing economic changes at home.

My (almost) 12 yo came home saying she supports 9-9-9. I asked her why (because I have not given Cain whole bunch of thought and cannot tell you anything about 9-9-9). She surprised me by giving me some fairly sound arguments for her age. I don’t necessarily agree with her, but I respect that she put forth the effort to make a decsion.

oneofeach4me

October 24th, 2011
12:21 pm

This is not a political blog so I am really not gonna go into details here. But we as a country really need to stop generalizing everyone. I consider myself to be somewhat Liberal, but only help those who actually need it. Are there some that abuse the system? ABSOLUTELY However, at the same time, aren’t there BIG corporations that abuse “their” system? ABSOLUTELY. Do I assume every corporation does that? NO. There really are those that need help, or that are one paycheck away from poverty. I don’t think there are many big corporations that are one receivable away from bankruptcy. There are people on both sides who abuse the system. I am not comfortable allowing five families to suffer just because one family abuses the system. In addition, I personally have never seen anyone abuse the system who actually needed it.

Van Jones

October 24th, 2011
12:35 pm

@Sylvania 10:48 “At her teabag meetings, perhaps?”

How very classy of you. I guess if you can’t think of a rational argurment, just call someone a name.

HB

October 24th, 2011
12:40 pm

Well said, oneofeach4me!

oneofeach4me

October 24th, 2011
1:06 pm

“These protesters are speaking out against the backbone of the American free market society and capitalism. Instead of being jealous that large companies are turning a profit, buy stock in these companies so you can share in their good fortune. Socialism isn’t the answer.”

@Clay ~ Socialism may not be the answer, this is true. However, I also think you should realize that most of those people who now protest Wallstreet DID buy stock in those companies in order to share some good fortune only to LOOSE most of their money (real estate bubble bust, financial system fall, banks, car makers). And I am not so sure they are jealous so much as outraged that they lost so much money or even their retirement (depending on how old they are) and yet that public company that they invested in, they got a bailout and still were able to keep paying their employees (and themselves) their million dollar salaries and bonuses. Also, the CEO that runs that company, still went home with a multi-million dollar salary for that year and still has a pension.

“As someone above said, most of these folks must be unemployed if they can camp out downtown for so long. Those of us who work for a living have more important things to do than protest capitalism.”

@Clay ~ again, here I doubt that most people who are unemployed WANT to be unemployed. The ability to get assistance was MUCH easier 10 years ago and the unemployment rate was only 4.9% (which was considered a 4 year high at the time), and yet to obtain assistance is now much more difficult and the unemployment rate is MUCH higher (9.1%). So tying assistance with unemployment rates don’t actually work out all that well.

oneofeach4me

October 24th, 2011
1:22 pm

@Clay ~ I mixed in the assistance/unemployment statements with your reply when I was speaking in general. My apologies.

Momof2

October 24th, 2011
1:25 pm

I might have to take my kids to the protest so they can see their father who will have to work the next two weeks, 12 hours a day with no days off so that these people can protest and not think about the working class families that it affects. I am all for people’s rights but seriously what are they accomplishing.

"Hey, oneofeach4me...

October 24th, 2011
1:31 pm

…uh, you wrote “I also think you should realize that most of those people who now protest Wallstreet DID buy stock in those companies in order to share some good fortune only to LOOSE most of their money (real estate bubble bust, financial system fall, banks, car makers)” – I believe you should read what Tim Franzen said above (@9:06am post) – and, by the way, “most” of these occupiers are NOT people who may have lost something,rather, they are young DUMB MASSES, most of whom have no clue as to “why” they are occupying anything….

And, personally, I am unemployed due to the fallout from the AIG financial product division debacle (I worked for AIG until this time last year), and that debacle was not necessarily the fault of AIG; rather, it was due to the current Secretary of the Treasury, tax cheat Timothy Geithner, who made sure his then employer, Goldman Sachs, got 100 cents on the dollar from the Government mandated bailout of AIG, when all the government had to do at the time was “guarantee” that AIG would make good on its credit debt obligations rather than making AIG fork over 100 cents on the dollar for those debts “right then” rather than waiting to see IF any of the obligations actually came due – and, if and when they did, then they should have made Goldman Sachs and the other entities got less than 100 cents on the dollar by makling THEM share in their bad business decisions -

You can blame this on both the Bush administration AND the Obama administration – government interference at its finest…

oneofeach4me

October 24th, 2011
2:34 pm

@hey.. I don’t see how the remark from Tim Fraznen of “who is the spokesperson for Occupy Atlanta – “There needs to be space created for the super rich people, to have their wealth taken away and redistributed and spread around to those who need it”…correlates at all with what I said about people who invested in Wall Street trying to share the good fortune with the companies they were investing in (which was a reply to Dave). My only point is that everyone should look at everything from BOTH sides and look at FACTS only.

I said I wasn’t going to do politics here…..I digress. I am now, however, done. Carry on.

Dean Fox

October 24th, 2011
5:36 pm

I would take my kids to a protest, 10 and 14, unless I felt there would be trouble. Would they “get it”? May be, may be not. Here’s the thing we all have our own view on the subject and most think they get it and generally believe those who disagree don’t get it. As far as kids are concerned they’re entitled to their own view and my 22 year old doesn’t always agree with me but we love each other so it doesn’t matter. I feel we sometimes shelter children too much and eventually find out we failed anyway because they were busy doing their thing; I wouldn’t force my children to go though.

April

October 24th, 2011
5:53 pm

Shaggy is soooo right!

Yes, I would take my children to a protest in support of a cause I believe in. I think it is important to for them to have different experiences and form opinions.

Yes Father

October 24th, 2011
8:55 pm

I love it, the hack thinks because it was the catholic church and it was in daytime that it must have been family friendly! because as we all know there is absolutely nothing dangerous about our kids being involved with the catholic church, oh wait.

NYC DAD

October 25th, 2011
11:48 am

YES i would and have taken my girl to Zuccotti Park several times as well as attended the sleepover and i can tell you first hand the following.
1. it is peaceful
2. it is clean, despite what some networks starting with F and ending in OX report, there is no “stench”
3. people are respectful
4. it is organized.

Those of you who think it is wrong to show your children how to peacefully stand up for what you beleive in really need to step back and re-evaluate the example you are setting.

@ NAGA are you effing kidding? What are these people fighting? Other poor People,,,, that’s it. There is absolutely no threat to the american way of life by these people we are fighting overseas, Picking a fight against an “enemy that doesn’t stand a chance hardly qualifies you as a hero! I’m sure you have a personal relation to this “war” but we all do. What would we explain to our children at a funeral? This dude died for absolutely no reason??? Cause that would make sense.

Fact of the matter is if things don’t change in this country people will be sleeping in the streets with thier children and it won’t be by choice. WAKE UP AMERICA.

oh yea

October 25th, 2011
1:46 pm

Some here need to look at the definition of lose vs loose. I hate to see those two words mixed up. Just screams ignorance.

shaggy

October 26th, 2011
12:39 pm

NYC DAD

Great. Now that you have done all of that, could you get back to looking for some kind of job, so we don’t have to keep on supporting your reproductive rights?