Creepy or OK: French ‘loungerie’ line for tiny tots to teens?

A French clothing line is drawing fire for developing essentially a lingerie line for kids – although they are calling it Loungerie.

Jours Apres Lunes, which translates into “Days after Moons” was created by Sophie Morin, a longtime lingerie designer. On her web site she says her goal was to borrow from adult lingerie trends to create underwear for toddlers to adolescents.

Little girls were shot wearing makeup, sunglasses and in poses that make them look like women, not kids.

From The Daily News:

“Marilisa Racco, fashion writer and author of Le Snob Lingerie, said that the clothing itself wasn’t the problem – it was the target age and the way the girls were photographed.”

” ‘It’s cute when a little girl dresses up in her mom’s clothing and jewelry and high heels,’ she told the Daily News. ‘These pictures are not cute. It’s entirely inappropriate to put a 4-year-old in a bouffant like she’s Brigitte Bardot in “And God Created Woman.’ ”

” ‘It’s inapproprite to sexualize children,’ she said flatly. ‘A pearl-encrusted triangle bra on a little girl does not sit well with me.’ ”

You’ll have to click the link to the see the photos of the girls to judge for yourself.

I agree with Racco’s comments that I didn’t think the clothing was all that offensive – although no child or teen should be wearing a pearl-encrusted triangle bra. That’s weird. But it’s the get-ups and poses that I think push it over the line from OK to creepy.

What do you think? Should designers not be creating loungerie for kids? Should they wear their Hanes undies from Target and be happy? Is the problem the photographs – the makeup, hair and poses? Could this have been done tastefully and still sell this product?

46 comments Add your comment

shaggy

August 17th, 2011
6:31 am

Sure, dress little girls and teens in provocative clothes. Hell, go all the way and pose them with a cigarette, a shot of whiskey, and a wink…throw in a pistol tucked into a side holster. Hey, dressing them like this would make them more “popular”, and in this society, that’s what matters most. It won’t matter that a few dozen perverts will have your address, phone number, email, etc… in their daily planner. The perverts rarely abuse, maim, or kill little girls anyway…only whenever they have an opportunity.
That is a sure way to protect these vulnerable little girls, right moms and dads????????

Leave it to the sick French to cross the cultural line into the realm of pedophilia.
Have I answered your questions?

homeschooler

August 17th, 2011
6:41 am

Just like the recent article on the 10 yr old posing for vogue, this is inappropriate and disgusting. Although this might not rise to the legal definition of child pornography, that’s what it is. These pictures will be on every pedaphile’s computer and sick perverted men will be sexually satisfying themselves looking at these pictures. I hope that makes the parents happy as well as the people who are making money off of these girls. I wish these people could be arrested. This is sexual exploitation and is perpetuating the problem of sexual abuse in our county and around the world. SICK SICK SICK.

homeschooler

August 17th, 2011
6:44 am

Just realized this is the same model as in the Vogue magazine. Good. Hopefully there is only one mom out there who would allow her child to do this. Wishful thinking.

mom2alex&max

August 17th, 2011
6:50 am

catlady

August 17th, 2011
7:03 am

Creepy and inappropriate unless you plan on renting your kid out as a pole dancer for the amusement of horny businessmen at the age of 4.

shaggy

August 17th, 2011
7:27 am

Jeff

August 17th, 2011
7:40 am

It’s a bit difficult to talk about “innocent children” when their parents dress them this way. Then again, look at their role models at home.

motherjanegoose

August 17th, 2011
7:40 am

The parents of these children are the creepy ones IMHO.

DB

August 17th, 2011
7:46 am

Euwwwwwww . . . what little girl wants to wear a pearl-encrusted bra?!? I HATE the makeup and the up-do hair on this beautiful little girl. There’s so much time for her to be a woman, and such a short period of time to be a little girl . . . what’s the rush?

HB

August 17th, 2011
7:50 am

Tom

August 17th, 2011
8:28 am

Perfect attire for under/after that pageant dress.

Becky

August 17th, 2011
8:40 am

Oh, H3LL NO..The first photo, I could sorta picture lttle girls “playing” dress up for that one, but the others, no way on earth is my 9 year old going to be in pictures like that…It takes a very sick parent to do this to a very innocent young girl..No amount of money could justify that for me..

Call it like it is

August 17th, 2011
8:53 am

And the French wonder why most of society doesnt respect them. I say the next time Germany invades them, let them have the country, no great loss.

Augusta

August 17th, 2011
9:00 am

Europeans are much more relaxed when it comes to nudity. American’s are still very prudish.

Heck they fuzz out a butt crack on tv…..doesn’t everyone have one?

Sylvania

August 17th, 2011
9:20 am

And this differs from those mothers who dress up their 5-year olds with hair extensions, false eyelashes, and lipstick for beauty pageants in what way, exactly?

@Call it like it is – Most of society doesn’t respect the French? Oh really. That’s news to me. I think folks around these parts are infinitely more ignorant than any French person I’ve ever met.

A

August 17th, 2011
9:37 am

It’s JonBenet Ramsey all over again!

JJ

August 17th, 2011
9:41 am

Think Toddlers & Tiaras……depriving these kids of a normal childhood…..

Tairy Greene

August 17th, 2011
9:50 am

If you think that’s inappropriate, you should see the stuff I have saved on my computer

Jesse's Girl

August 17th, 2011
9:56 am

This burns my biscuits. I realize that the French ride on the more liberal side of the moral choo-choo. But come the frak on!!! Lingerie? When are some of the people in this world going to wake the hell up? If you permit your daughter to do any of the following….
1. Wear falsies…unless she is the victim of some wierd hair loss thing
2. Wear heels to middle school
3. Back to school shop for your daughter (birth to 14) at Juicy Couture, Victoria’s Secret, or Fredricks
4. Alow their tummies to show without a beach in the background
5. Encourage your 10 year old to have boyfriends
6. The words Jersey Shore, Snooki or or any word ending in “icious” are in your kids everyday vernacular…or worse…YOUR’S
7. Wear shorts so short that you can see the panty…forget the line…you see the PANTY
…..Then you are well on your way to raising a trollop. Is this judgemental? You bet your sweet ass it is.

Theresa Walsh Giarrusso

August 17th, 2011
10:06 am

JG — I got caught by the E True Hollywood story of Snooki last weekend and I was shocked by the permissiveness of her mother. She seemed like a perfectly nice woman but then she’s explaining Snooki’s transition years from preppy cheerleader to “Guidette” (her words, not mine) and she just let it happen and was OK with it. I would have been fighting like heck. Snooki looked so much cuter before the transformation.

Jesse's Girl

August 17th, 2011
10:15 am

Its disturbing that so many “parents” can’t find some middle ground. You can ,in fact , raise a well rounded, free thinking, globally aware daughter without allowing and encouraging her to be sexually suggestive. I am a realist when it comes to parenting. I tell my children to strive for whatever they want. Work hard to attain a personal goal. But I also stress to them that their drive may not be enough to get it. The point being however…they TRY their best! Coupling this with the point of the day….I also tell them that..yes..it is messy to judge someone on their appearances. They may be a lovely..God fearing person on the inside. But the outside is what the world sees first. You draw the attention you present yourself for. If you dress like a good girl…then you willbe treated as such. You may not actually be…but God willing…the experiences you have because of how you are percieved willl impress you somehow. Conversely…if you dress like a JR. Hooker….chances are pretty damn solid that you will be treated as such. I try to teach the kids that is wrong to judge others. But I also let them know that it is very difficult to get passed the way someone chooses to present themsleves. Reason #1 I do not allow them to hang out with the groups of girls who dress as if they could be called out on a LIL Wayne video audition at any moment.

JATL

August 17th, 2011
11:03 am

Gross! Why does anyone think tarting up little kids is cute? Ghete’s a certain demographic of extremely stupid, silly, vacant moms -and some dads-who like stuff like this. They can be found on the pageant circuit and at the mall constantly buying wildly inappropriate clothing for their kids and themselves. Oh yeah-the pedophiles enjoy it too! What a bunch of crap. And YES, children should be wearing cute cotton undies with Strawberry Shortcake and Batman on them! There’s ZERO reason for any child to be dressed in sexy clothing.

motherjanegoose

August 17th, 2011
11:08 am

@ Jesse’ Girl…great points. Our daughter has always been a modest dresser. She lives in t-shirts, jeans and shorts expect for work or church. Our son wore mostly t-shirts and jeans but now has to wear a shirt and tie to work. Some of his t-shirts are zany but he knows when and when not to wear them.

I am amazed at what some teens wear in HS and college.

Even to a job interview, your choice of clothes does send a message:

low cut jeans with a thong sticking out
pants hanging down your hips with your boxers sticking out
t-shirts with messages….I was sharing a teacher training workshop and one participant was wearing a Jack Daniel’s T shirt…that REALLY caught my eye….is that something you would/could wear to work…not me. Maybe after work or on a weekend ( still not me…hahaha). I guess I am really out of the loop on that one!

words on your fanny…does that not say LOOK HERE!

We never had to make a big deal about what our kids wore. Maybe we were just lucky?

RJ

August 17th, 2011
11:13 am

This is stupid, but it won’t sell unless parents buy it! I just don’t understand the push to make our kids into little adults. I want mine to enjoy childhood as long as they can. They’ll be adults soon enough.

@Jesse’s Girl, my daughter loved Juicy Couture in middle school. We bought the cutest t-shirts and jeans. None of it was inappropriate. Now I’ve seen the short skirts, but overall nothing I ever saw was very sexual. As a teenager she loves the Pink section at Victoria’s Secret. Again, cute tops, hoodies and pants that are age appropriate. She is far from being a trollop!

Scooby

August 17th, 2011
11:16 am

Why is this so shocking when apparently there’s a large market for dressing your young child up as a 20 year old and entering her in pagents? Check out Little Miss Perfect or Toddlers and Tiaras. There is something truly disturbing about a 4 year old, made to look 20 and told to “shake it baby”.

RJ

August 17th, 2011
11:17 am

“…words on your fanny…does that not say LOOK HERE!”

LOL! Um, how did you come to that conclusion? Guess I’m not nearly as uptight as some of you. I have no problems with this style. I would think that those super tight jeans I used to wear in high school said “look here” a little more:)!

Wayne

August 17th, 2011
11:31 am

@RJ: To a certain extent I agree with you about the super tight jeans – especially depending on who was wearing them. For some reason though, the words on the shorts just bother me. I don’t know exactly what it is. I don’t want to say it’s not right, but I can’t really explain it. Maybe because it’s more overt? Sure, the jeans say, look at me, but the words/shorts shout it?

I think someone shared a story about a couple of young men looking at a young girl who was with her family, and the boys were making a comment about the word(s) on the girl’s shorts. The father said something to the men, and the response was, why do you let her wear them then? I’m really paraphrasing here, but that’s what I recall!

motherjanegoose

August 17th, 2011
11:40 am

@ Wayne…yes, I recall that story too! Were they on the subway? My memory is fuzzy.

Amanda

August 17th, 2011
12:26 pm

And what exactly are we teaching young women to value and how to value themselves and essentially isn’t this debasing women by implicitly suggesting their self worth is contingent on their ability to pull off a lingerie set, at the age of 9? Forgive the question, but do girls even have breasts to show when they are 9?

http://scallywagandvagabond.com/2011/08/fashion-bloggers-appalled-by-gaps-new-skinny-jeans/

jarvis

August 17th, 2011
12:42 pm

@shaggy, techonic plates? Please don’t tell me that you believe that scientific garbage. I suppose there are monkeys giving birth to people on these underground moving islands as well?

homeschooler

August 17th, 2011
12:48 pm

Totally agree about the words on the butt. Kind of cute when they are babies but a pre-teen or teen with the word “Angel” or “Sexy” on the butt is just trashy looking and OF COURSE it draws attention to the butt.

catlady

August 17th, 2011
12:52 pm

Why not just print an arrow (with glitter!) pointng to the private parts inside those pants? Good grief!

shaggy

August 17th, 2011
1:04 pm

jarvis,

I have no earthly idea what you are refering to. Was it the blomberg link to an article illustrating American kids, being just this side or morons, when it comes to geography. (which is very true) If the answer is yes, the link might have redirected you to something I did not intend.
I know what “plate tectonics” are, but have no idea what a techonic one is. Is it maybe one made with a china stamp? Also the first I have heard about your monkey thing. Did you read that in a comic book?

Jesse's Girl

August 17th, 2011
1:17 pm

RJ…if you were able to dress your daughter appropriately with clothing from these stores…cudos to you! Unfortunately you are in the parenting minority. And really..I should have been more specific. I am speaking more along the lines of the middle and high school girls who wear the super short shorts…pants so tight you need turpentine to disolve them off…and insanely low cut shirts with a push up bra that does the job so well she could hold a conversation with her boobs.

jarvis

August 17th, 2011
1:33 pm

So funny. I spelled tectonics wrong and went back to delete the “h”, and instead deleted the “t”.

The Bloomberg article you sent just had a little part about 8th graders not being to explain how TECTONIC plate movement causes earthquakes. I was trying out a faux-anti-science bit, but I think I laid it on a bit thick.

jarvis

August 17th, 2011
1:36 pm

As for the topic at hand, lingerie is good (great even), but on kids it’s just gross.
I don’t understand the thought process behind creating age inappropriate things.

JATL

August 17th, 2011
1:38 pm

@TWG -look for my post please. It contains the story Wayne and MJG are referring to.

JJ

August 17th, 2011
1:42 pm

I think we are all in agreement that this is awful. Let’s not have any more of these kind of topics please.

Wayne

August 17th, 2011
2:05 pm

@JG: I had to laugh at your post. I went out at lunchtime to look for a chain saw. Went to the local power equipment store and started looking at the chain saws. Looked at the counter to see if someone was around and I see a young girl dressed just as you described. This is a power equipment store! Not a Home Depot or Lowe’s… And even if it was, is that acceptable in the business environment?

I like looking at women as much as the next guy, but when you’re talking about the young group we’re talking about here – it’s just plain eery.

motherjanegoose

August 17th, 2011
2:55 pm

@ Wayne…my question is…would you want your daughter dressed like this when she works in a power equipment store that is, perhaps, patronized by more men than women? Me, not so much. Maybe it lures in more customers?

My daughter got her most recent job because the owner knew a family friend. She mentioned that she was looking for a clean cut girl who knew how to work and would actually show up for work too. Our friend was kind enough to call my daughter and myself and when she went in to meet the owner…they hired her…no application just an interview. She has been there 5 months and really likes it. She is happy and the owner is happy too. We are thrilled.

RJ

August 17th, 2011
3:09 pm

@Wayne, I’m not talking about short shorts but baggy warm-up pants. My daughter doesn’t wear short shorts because she is self-conscious about her body (athough I would have a problem with them if she wanted to anyway). Her blessing is her curse so to speak. She hates bringing attention to herself. She won’t even wear the bottoms of a bikini; she insists on wearing the boyshorts over it. But I have no problem with her wearing baggy warm-ups with PINK written across the butt. She just looks like a kid. If she didn’t my husband would flip! Even he’s commented on how grateful he is that she doesn’t like the short, tight clothing. We’re pretty lucky.

Crystal

August 18th, 2011
10:11 am

I’m only 13, and even I think it’s needless to say that this kind of provocative attire- for this prepubescent age group- is absolutely unacceptable and, in my opinion, the individuals who organized such a risque display of what could soon spiral into pornography, should be intstitutionalized and need some serious mental help from a well equipped facility. These young girls are being taught by today’s monstrous society that parading around in “Loungerie” and putting on a show for the enitre internet and now all regular social media is completely acceptable and is in no way wrongul towards these exploited children. I would never have the little respect for myself, my peers, my pastor, and my PARENTS to prance around in “Loungerie,” and none of my little sisters would as well. We four were lucky enough to be raised by MENTALLY STABLE and SANE parents like we have, and I’m sure all of your daughter’s feel the same. I do not- nor do I plan to for at least 10 more years- have any children of ANY sort, but if I did, my daughters would not be seen in anything close to what these French “designers” have in store for them. I would bet my soul that there are at least 3,000 pedophiles staring intently and sexually pleasing themselves to images of these poor unfortunate souls.

adam

August 18th, 2011
12:18 pm

One would only like this for one of two reasons.
1. You are immoral and stand to make lots of money off of it.
2. You are a pedophile.
Which one are you……

STEphany

August 18th, 2011
8:58 pm

the french arent sick

Tierra

August 19th, 2011
3:58 am

R u people sick kids shouldnt b dressed n grown up clothes its not cute at all sum of u stupid parents should, b protecting your kids froms perverts you parents r stupid an dc out of your mind

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