School supply list is nearly impossible to complete

Dad Days of Summer: While Momania’s Theresa Walsh Giarrusso takes a vacation, local dad and sportswriter Andy Johnston will be filling in. You can e-mail him at ajcmomania@gmail.com.

On Monday, Lori tacked a green neon piece of paper to the bulletin board in our laundry room.

Andy and his son Ty.

Andy and his son Ty.

It’s longer than Ty’s Christmas list and more detailed than my honey-do list.

I was stunned when I started reading it.

It was filled with all the school supplies we need to purchase before he starts kindergarten next month. To give you an idea of its enormity, we must buy at least one of every item at Wal-Mart.

For many of you, buying school supplies has become a habit and a routine part of your July and August. For us, it’s our first year purchasing all the supplies needed for Ty to start school.

As I see the shelves filling up with supplies at Target, CVS and other stores, Lori says we need to go ahead and get them before they’re gone or we’ll be fighting other parents over the last box of Crayola washable markers (classic colors – not the thin ones, as our supply list warns) or glue sticks or Iron Man book bag.

And what the heck is a Pink Pearl eraser?

One thought is that we can wait to compare the sales at all the different retailers to buy the most for less, or we could go ahead and get the supply list completed before we’re making a midnight run to find things not crossed off our list.

Hopefully your tips will help school supply newcomers like us and other parents who are familiar with this annual rite but are looking to save money this year.

Are you already buying school supplies?

What are some of the best ways to save on them?

Do you wait or do you get it done weeks ahead of time?

Do schools ask parents to bring too many items?

- By Andy Johnston, for the Momania blog

111 comments Add your comment

motherjanegoose

July 19th, 2011
11:51 am

Also, you may actually need a dictionary…as in a book. Of course, we have one and the neighbors called to borrow it in the spring. It seems no one had one on hand and they thought we would.

Techmom

July 19th, 2011
12:30 pm

@MJG, the TI-86 is an older model is all. As it turns out my old one is a TI-85 and the TI-86 replaced it. I believe back then they said the 85/86 was geared more towards engineering and 81/82/83 was general mathematics though there isn’t much different honestly.

I think most schools ask for students to use the 84 now days b/c that’s the model that Texas Instruments makes companion tools for teachers (like for the overhead projector) and most text books like Prentice Hall use for their examples. They all do the same thing really, some of the buttons might be in a different place though. I’m sure if you find someone who has a HS student in need, it would be perfect.

April

July 19th, 2011
12:30 pm

@Becky’s Question to Teachers – I am always hesitant to ask parents to purchase supplies for specific students. I will say, “We are running low on tissues and hand sanitizer.” But, I have never told a parent, “One student did not bring in any supplies.” I probably should when the offer is made, but I really feel like it is not that parent’s responsibility. I know it is not mine either, but after all this time, I just figure it is part of the job.

If you are really willing to do it, perhaps you should phrase the question with, “I know some students may not have been able to bring in all their supplies. Is there anything I can bring in to help those students out?”

I also recycle from the previous year and take donations that are about to be tossed in the dumpster. I then have the basics to “loan” to those who do not have any or, as often happens in middle school, to those who have already lost their pencil, pen, notebook, etc.

motherjanegoose

July 19th, 2011
12:37 pm

Guess I am not the only one who is fed up with perpetual takers. I am all about helping folks but not when they are spending their money on something that is not in my budget and using the things I contributed.

This just came in my box:

http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/story/2011/07/Courtesy-in-the-skies-is-gone-frequent-fliers-say/49492738/1?csp=Travel

Not trying to hijack the blog but we have talked air travel with Malaysia and TSA before. Guess I am not the only one who has observed rude behavior. Interesting, to me.

@ Techmom…thanks! Maybe I will put it on Craigslist.

Top School

July 19th, 2011
12:52 pm

With all the money in the school system that is wasted on administrative MISTAKES …Parents should not be digging down in their pockets to pay for school supplies…THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH MONEY IN THE EDUCATION POT…. IT IS NOT GOING TO THE RIGHT CAUSE. PARENTS SHOULD BE OUTRAGED AND REFUSE to pay for supplies!

Beverly Hall and all her minions need to be criminally charged and serve time in jail. If you think this is the end…it is only the tip of the broken education pencil. Check out the APS Finance department formerly headed by MARGARET COLEMAN. JACKSON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL principal had a direct hot-line to the APS-Cookie Jar. Making up numbers over the phone to payout Bonus Checks to select JACKSON STAFF MEMBERS with no criteria…and you guessed right… Reich’s hands were not clean. The media needs to dig deeper into the politics behind the multiple layers of cheating our children. It’s not just about TEST SCORES. Rename this Education Scandal – Atlanta’s version of WATERGATE…and some of us are labeled the DEEP THROAT.

The media has not peeled back the layers of corruption in the Georgia State Professional Standards Commission…Someone needs to interview attorney Warren Fortson and the lead investigator John Grant and ask them what’s going on with their Code of Ethics.

THE FLOOD GATES HAVE NOT OPENED YET!

http://www.TopPublicSchoolCorruptionAtlanta.com

YouTube Channel: TopSchoolAtlanta

PA

July 19th, 2011
12:55 pm

The office where I work is all adults but many of us take advantage of school supply sales to stock up on pens, paper, notebooks, binders, and numerous other things we use around the office. School sales save us a lot of money. So, thanks kids, for letting us have discounted supply prices once a year.

AreYouKidding?

July 19th, 2011
1:00 pm

Why would kindergarteners need anything more than a pencil box with pencils, crayons, scissors, and a glue stick???? That’s REALLY all they need. Get the kleenex in bulk with coupons!!!

DisneyDad

July 19th, 2011
1:06 pm

I am a single dad of an 11year girl and 8 year old boy. For the past 6 years we have made it an outing to get school supplies. We typically just start at the top and move down the list…great fun and the kids love it!!!!! The mom’s in the store have proven to be very helpful. smiling!

missy

July 19th, 2011
1:09 pm

I just finished my daughter’s school shopping this week to the tune of $62.43. She’s starting second grade and her school also works with the methodology that every thing will be shared by every one in the class. I don’t mind the school supplies such as crayons, markers, pencils – but I do mind being told what brand name to purchase. I also am baffled as to why we are to supply hand sanitizer, hand soap, lysol cleaning wipes, klennex, band aids and ziploc bags. I spent more money on cleaning supplies than acutal school supplies. Shouldn’t the schools be providing these basic necessities?

Angie

July 19th, 2011
1:09 pm

Thanks for the clarification. I have bought the majority of the items needed. This weekend, I plan to finish up. Ok, another gripe – what’s up with schools giving students the supply list on the FIRST DAY of school. This burns me up. Everything is either picked over or no longer in the store. My daughter’s middle school did that last year. I was P/O’d.

RitaH

July 19th, 2011
1:16 pm

I bought most of the items my son needs yesterday. The frustrating part was that Walmart did not have some items yet (b&w composition books) and were already sold out of a few things and waiting for more.

There is always a couple of items that I have to laugh at – like wanting (3) red pens when everyone knows that are packaged in 2’s or larger packs like 5 or 8. I buy 2 packs for a total of 4 and send them in. I have a friend that gets really peeved and will open a pack and only send in the “required” 3. She refused to send in anymore than is listed because she knows the school administration is not cutting corners where it needs to (like with staff, etc).

I guess when we are all not doing our part, especially now in a horrible economy, people just get tired of doing more than they should.

PS – I have seen stockpiles of ziplock bags stored in the teacher’s classroom(s) and other items near the end of the school year. Why do teacher’s (or that grade level) continue to ask for things they do not obviously need? Volunteering in the classroom can be a real eye opener when it comes to seeing stockpiles of supplies! :)

motherjanegoose

July 19th, 2011
1:18 pm

@ AreYouKidding…do you teach Kindergarten and where? As a teacher, what does your list look like? I taught over 15 years ago and things ARE different now.

@Angie…what is up with colleges putting a $200 book on the required reading list for a class your child is taking and when she gets there on the first day, “If you purchased the book, we will not be using it…sorry.” Thanks JJ…we try to use Chegg, at least we can return the books.

catlady

July 19th, 2011
1:19 pm

I have not read what others are saying, but want to make a small note: IF the list asks for a certain kind of something, it is because the teachers have found that kind works the best for that age child. Please don’t buy mechanical pencils if they are not on the list, for example, as the lead gets lost and wasted and it’s too light to read. If it does not say college lined paper, get the other size! Please don’t start with the “That teacher isn’t going to tell ME what to buy!” Your child is picking up your attitude!

Also, please don’t send your kids to school in racy/dangerous/inappropriate clothes and shoes! And when it is cold, have them wear a coat!

science teacher

July 19th, 2011
1:21 pm

I have purchased almost 500 mechanical pencils because when they installed my pencil sharpener the catch basin came out of the box in three pieces and they won’t replace it. I have purchased 32 protractors, 150 pens, 2 scientific calculators (for loan to those who refuse to bring them to class even on test day), 16 pairs of scissors, paper clips, and two staplers and 10000 staples(cause they never seem to survive the full year). I have two boxes of notebook paper, two full boxes of copy paper (because work must go on even when the county doesn’t send paper), a printer cartridge for a laser printer (which the county won’t buy), 16 packs of colored pencils, four pencil boxes to store the pens, pencils, colored pencils, and other small things. I have also purchased 6 huge boxes of kleenex, two huge bottles of hand sanitizer, and a huge pack of paper towels. I have spent 500+ dollars on supplies, and these are not even the lab materials that will come out of my pocket later.

I still have to buy the supplies for my 15 year old.

The supply list for my class is 1 scientific calculator, notebook paper, a binder (may be shared with other classes), a pencil and a pen. Projects will be assigned for which supplies may be needed, but I allow my students and their parents to determine which supplies they need. Most of my projects involve building something out of things they find at home, whether that is using a sponge and a spoon to build a catapult, or rolled up newspaper to build a bridge, or even peanut butter and the cardboard rolls from toilet paper to protect an egg in an egg drop. Though some of my students do buy a kit for every project, many of the best projects come from students who used just what they found laying around in a creative manner. I know those students learned more.

Andrea

July 19th, 2011
1:27 pm

@newblogger:

Can you please explain, how a child (i.e.in Cobb County) could possibly use 36 pencils in a year? Also, I strongly disagree with being told which brand of markers, pencils etc to buy as I try not to purchase items made in China and purchase recycled products as much as possible. Please explain.

motherjanegoose

July 19th, 2011
1:33 pm

@ science teacher….and can you tell which student’s parents did the project for them? I sure could!

catlady

July 19th, 2011
1:35 pm

I never ask for anything. I supply what I can, but I limit it since our government(state and local) has taken over 5700$ from my paycheck (not taxes, just pay decreases) for the last 2 years, so I no longer spend hundreds.

Our parents at my school aren’t asked for much, and only about half send in things. The list of things the state does not supply gets longer, too, folks!

Years ago, when I was teaching kindergarten, I had sent home “the list” and parents were kindly sending in paper towels, paper plates, paper cups, and napkins. Right after school a mother STORMED into my room, walked over to my desk and SLAMMED a box of Kotex down! She yelled, “I would THINK that you teachers could buy these for yourselves!!!” I was absolutely perplexed as she stormed out, until I realized she had misinterpreted the request for “napkins.”

tim

July 19th, 2011
1:35 pm

WHY should anyone BUY school supplies? Have the school give you the supplies.

Do you think that any child attending a free or reduced lunch school is out buying school supplies with their parent(s)??

They get all they want for free. Why shouldn’t you?

Are the school supply police going to arrest you if you don’t have crayons?

You are all so gullible!

catlady

July 19th, 2011
1:51 pm

For my kids that don’t have pencils, paper, crayons, notebooks, I keep a supply of “orphan” supplies I accumulate as the time goes by. I pick up pencils outside, get notebooks abandoned, etc, and keep them for kids to use. I have a box of old, broken crayons as well. They aren’t nice enough that anyone would want to appropriate them permanently, and they make the case for the student getting some supplies. I do have some students who will kindly supply their friends, but I caution them that their friends should return the favor later.

MomsRule

July 19th, 2011
1:54 pm

We start the year with the basics (pens, pencils, paper, folders). Once school starts we will purchase any additional items needed based upon my kids coming home and saying, “Mom, I need XYZ.”

After 10 years of receiving supply lists I have yet to see the list given out before school match the list that is received from the classroom(s) after school starts. The $50 calculator purchased some number of years back because of the supply list that to this day remains unopened in its original packaging cured me of buying anything on the list in advance.

I haven’t sent everything to school at the beginning of the year since Kindergarten.

We have a supply cabinet in the kitchen that I keep stocked with the all basics. My boys take what they need when they need it. I don’t need teachers “holding onto” a years worth of supplies for my kids.

I’m tired of so many people expecting others to provide for their children. I say, if the kids don’t show up with the basics, they can sit there all day long and twiddle their thumbs. (or send them all to one communal room so they can’t disrupt the classrooms) Maybe after they start complaining to their parents and the kids start failing because they can’t complete their work – maybe, just maybe parents will begin stepping up to the plate. Right now…its too darn easy for slugs to take advantage.

irisheyes

July 19th, 2011
2:00 pm

Trust me, it doesn’t matter how long or short the supply list is, some parents just won’t buy the stuff on it. We cut our list down as far as we could last year (everything could be purchased at Wal-Mart for a total of $25 or so), and I STILL had students come in with an empty backpack. So, I will be heading out today to buy 25 boxes of crayons at Wal-Mart (thankfully only about $5), notebooks, and pencils so that when the first day of school comes, we’re not scrambling around trying to figure out how to share supplies. I get $50 from my school to buy supplies, but when I’m buying construction paper, markers, staples, whiteboard markers, etc, $50 doesn’t go very far.

BTW, one reason that the supply list may contain multiple boxes of crayons, glue, etc, is that one doesn’t last the whole year. In my class last year, a box of crayons would last about a grading period. After that, crayons are lost, the box is falling apart, etc. After every grading period, I’d replace everyone’s box.

science teacher

July 19th, 2011
2:00 pm

@MJG Yes, when I ask them to show me how their project works, and they can’t operate it, I know they did not build it. Some of them even bring in the instructions from the kit and then have to study it before they can make the catapult launch the marshmallow.

@Tim The *schools* aren’t providing supplies. The *teachers* are the ones left supplying materials out of their personal paychecks when you do not provide for your students. I do not receive any money for classroom supplies. I get maybe $100 all year for labs for 150 students. More and more, teachers are deciding that if you can’t be bothered to provide for your student’s education then neither should they. I haven’t reached that point, yet. Most of the parents of my students buy the materials. The students just won’t bring them to class. Well, they *forget* them in their locker so that they can go hang out in the hall to get them, or they leave them at home. They think if they just don’t bring the materials that they don’t have to do the work. Most of the time, once the parents find out that their child is doing that and wasting time as well as making it look like they aren’t providing for them, it stops. If the parents care that is.

Recessionista

July 19th, 2011
2:01 pm

Are you already buying school supplies?

What are some of the best ways to save on them?

Do you wait or do you get it done weeks ahead of time?

Do schools ask parents to bring too many items?

I have already bought most of my school supplies. My goal is to get the majority for under .50. I use the Sunday Paper and go when the stores open to make sure they don’t run out. Walgreen’s often has great deals, but it is sometimes hard to find the items because they don’t show the actual sale prices. Just go through the store with the ad. Teachers can buy up to 25 of the 1 cent items at Staples, but they have a 5 dollar minimum. I like getting supplies from Walgreen’s, Target and Walmart because they typically do not have a minimum dollar amount or maximum quantity to purchase. My school in Gwinnett has an average list, it has been shortened over the past two years. I really hate buying the copy paper. The county should give the teachers enough.

teach1

July 19th, 2011
2:04 pm

Henry county teachers are told to keep the list simple. So we pared it way down to the basics. I can’t imagine any parent having aproblem providing the following:

Requested Supply List 2011-2012

Students will need:

6 glue sticks

20 pencils

1 pair of scissors

4 plain erasers

24 pack of crayons

1 plastic pencil box

1 inch white 3-ring binder (with clear plastic sleeve)

The tissues, baby wipes, sanitizer and paper towels are only on a wish list. Contribute if you can. I think we do a great job of keeping the list reasonable.

Seriously

July 19th, 2011
2:10 pm

What happened with just needing a pencil and paper for class and why are teachers dictating what kids need for school?

Wait

July 19th, 2011
2:11 pm

If you think the school supply list is amazing, wait until you see the list for Teacher Appreciation Week. The first year my son brought that home I almost fell over. Imagine my shock at finding out that Monday was “bring a rose for your child’s teacher, teacher aide, music/art/pe teachers”; Tuesday was a “send a toke of appreciation such as a Starbuck’s gift card for the same said teachers”, etc…..The list was for the whole week and school had only been in session about 2 months.

Old School

July 19th, 2011
2:12 pm

I’m a drafter and I absolutely HATE Pink Pearl erasers. I bought my grandson White Rose vinyl erasers that don’t leave a pink smudge when he scrubs away his mistakes. I also bought him several boxes of the larger wood cased Ticonderoga beginners pencils (HB lead is softer and easier for little hands to write with). It made quite a bit of difference in his manuscript writing (although I had to re-learn lower case letters in order to work with him on his handwriting.) If you get the large diameter pencils, get several sharpeners and keep at least one at home, one in the car, one in the bookbag and you might get a couple for the teacher.
Back on the subject of pencils: do try to buy wood cased pencils no matter what size. Those awful composite or plastic pencils will ruin a pencil sharpener and no matter how hard you press, they just don’t produce dark writing. If your high schooler insists on a mechanical pencil, make it a .7mm and not a .5mm. Purchase HB or B lead if you want extra but usually they will lose the mechanical pencils soon after purchasing them or someone will “borrow” it.

Lib in Cobb

July 19th, 2011
2:18 pm

I am married to a very happy retired teacher.

Attention all parents: It is not the teacher’s fault that you must buy all these items. So please, don’t bitch out the teacher when your little darling starts school. Teachers are spending a lot more than you are on school supplies. The classrooms are under-funded. By the way there are many teachers who kick in for your kid throughout the year because there are too many parents who will not provide the needed items. My wife has spent an average of $1,200 per year over the last ten years on needed, but not furnished school supplies.

KIMBRA

July 19th, 2011
2:23 pm

The key is now that you are in the buying school supplies “business” you have to stock up when things go on clearance. So around September and October start looking for clearance items and stock up. This year for my 4th grader I did not have to purchase a single item because all he needed we already had.

Shon

July 19th, 2011
2:25 pm

For the teachers needing help with school supplies (those that may teach at low income schools), the Atlanta Community Food Bank has a program called Kids in Need that offers free supplies each year. More info on this program can be found on the food bank’s website – http://www.acfb.org. I just went to Target and found many of the needed supplies on sale for prices between $.15-$1.50 (paper, binders, etc.). I can deal with having to buy the “usual” supplies but all of the extras such as computer paper, paper plates, etc. I’m not a big fan of. As a former PTA president, we helped teachers get supplies they needed for the community box as well as supplied some students with book bags containing their supplies via collaborating with community partners/members and/or fundraising events. Dollar Tree sells supplies year round and may be a good resource for some, especially if you buy things any time you find a sale like I do.

My oldest child (of the four) is a high school junior in an early college program so the number of supplies he need are almost doubled. I can definitely agree that it can sometimes be a strain to get all that’s needed but it’s very vital for the teachers and students.

Georgia High School Teacher

July 19th, 2011
2:46 pm

@Cat Lady–I am still laughing at that misinterpretation!

I teach high school, but I have two children. I, too, have had to deal with the endless supply lists. I tell parents and students that I SUGGEST the following: a 3-ring binder notebook that they can use with several classes, blue/black pens, paper, pencils. That’s it. I teach English, and although we do projects sometimes, we don’t do them often enough to require students to bring in their own basic supplies, though they may be required to purchase a poster board. I have markers and glue sticks that I have purchased. Most of my projects are more computer based anyway. I do add a wish list of hand sanitizer (because the bathrooms are often out of soap) and tissues (because the school does occasionally have them, but they are hard and scratchy). If parents want to purchase them, I really do appreciate them. I am not purchasing it myself, however. They know that the wish list items are to be used by ALL of my students.

Reality

July 19th, 2011
2:49 pm

Homeschool your children and you won’t have these problems (or a whole host of other one’s either).

Eye Roll

July 19th, 2011
2:53 pm

“Teachers are spending a lot more than you are on school supplies. The classrooms are under-funded.”

So you (teachers) focus your anger on the parents, and not towards the administration / school systems that you work for? This “underfunded” classroom is not a new phenomenon when parents have been buying supplies from the insane lists for decades. Parents who are loosing jobs vs. a teacher who is guaranteed a job and tenue. Please excuse me if parents don’t cry a river for your years of agony!

I bought my child an iPod for her 13th Birthday, or basically about a month before my husband lost his job. Sorry that I did not forsee my spouse being RIF’d from his job of 12 years, but that is the economy that we live in today. I suppose the teacher would be happy if I retuned the iPod to the store and taken away the gift? This is a teacher that drives a newer Audi SUV and went to Greece for 10 days this Summer. I am sure that there are many more examples close to mine.

Parents get tired of teacher’s beotching about everything and doing never complaining to the people that can help really them (administration). Teachers, we are sick and tired of hearing how horrible we are if we don’t follow the list to a T every darn year, especially after years of supporting you. Complain to your bosses, not your parents. Maybe then changes will be made to improve your miserable tenured, job guaranteed lives.

Jumping down off the soapbox now!

tim

July 19th, 2011
2:57 pm

@scienceteacher >>>> Thanks for the supplies that YOU BOUGHT! HA HA. Talk about gullable……

Gilstrap

July 19th, 2011
2:58 pm

Can someone tell me where to find 3 ring binders at a reasonable price?

say what?

July 19th, 2011
2:59 pm

@teach1- around the 2nd or 3rd week of school, Office Depot on Hwy 138 in Stockbridge is almost giving away their brand of disappearing purple glue sticks (4 pack) for around .25. I still have 30 packs of the stuff.

I purchase boxes of composition and spiral notebooks from Target 3 weeks into school; by that time they are .15 each. I get wide and college ruled.Paper is usually .25 a pack and you can buy cases of the stuff. Target is trying to get ready for Halloween and needs to get rid of school supplies right around Labor Day.

Getting back to the questions, purchase a little at a time, and keep the rest in a homework ready kit. All supplies necessary for homework time, because kids come home from school and can never find their scissors, pencil, markers, crayon, etc.

I do purchase Clorox wipes, large bottles of hand sanitizer, and boxes of tissue for the classroom. I have OCD tendencies, and a suppressed immune system, so I want to keep germs out the classroom so my kids do not bring those germs home to me. That annual $50 is literally a lifesaver for me.

Andy and Ty- enjoy the best year of many to come!

say what?

July 19th, 2011
3:05 pm

@Gilstrap, there is no place to find 3 ring binders at a reasonable place. Office Depot will have their basic brand in white and black on sale for about .97 each. These are the 1 inch size which will fold like cardboard once tossed into a heavy book ladened bookbag.

Depending on the age of the kid, and the amount of organization required by the teacher ( I had a teacher who demanded 12 tabs in a 6 inch heavy duty, 3 ring binder, a horrible year), spending more than $6.88 on a heavy duty binder is sufficient.

say what?

July 19th, 2011
3:06 pm

I meant to say “spend no more than $6.88 on a heavy duty binder”.

Old School

July 19th, 2011
3:06 pm

The best place to get cheap (free) 3-ring binders is in the hallways of high schools on the last day or so. Kids just toss ‘em or leave them in their lockers for the custodians (at our school it was us teachers who cleaned out lockers) to toss. Some will be pretty beaten up and marked on but you’ll be surprised at how many look barely used.

MomsRule

July 19th, 2011
3:29 pm

@Georgia High School Teacher — your list is very reasonable and makes sense! Every parent should willingly provide each item on your list. I’m certain some still resist. :(

I happily providing every item my kids need to complete their school work, special projects included, and I provide monetary funds to the science teacher(s) for labs, donate tissues, etc. But some of the supply lists that come home are insane.

Tuckergirl

July 19th, 2011
3:33 pm

@Catlady, that Kotex story is the funniest thing I’ve heard all day! :-)

Fayette Teacher

July 19th, 2011
3:42 pm

As an English teacher I would truthfully spend about $300 each year for classroom supplies from my pocket – extra pencils, paper, highlighters, cleaning supplies, binders, or other miscellaneous items. Nothing fancy, just the basics needed daily. Extras mostly, because believe it or not, some students will show up each day without a pencil, paper, or notebook. Every day. My own little protest because of furlough days, pay cuts, added responsibilities of no merit, i.e. RTI, extra time spent on students who do nothing in class, etc., makes me feel better that I no longer spend a dime for my classroom. Don’t have a pencil? Get one from the floor, in the hallway, or from a friend who is tired of lending supplies to you.No paper? See if anyone is willing to lend you some before class. Again. Constant emails to the same parents stating Johnny’s inability to bring a pencil or paper doesn’t work. NCLB? Those who won’t help themselves will be left behind. These are not elementary kids.

MomsRule

July 19th, 2011
3:58 pm

@Fayette Teacher – “Those who won’t help themselves will be left behind.” <—- and its about time!

Cobb MS Teacher

July 19th, 2011
4:56 pm

@ Eye Roll – no offense, but after reading all the posts, you’re the only one that sounds angry, and I didn’t think anyone on here, teacher or parent, was “beotching.” Fact – teachers spend their own money in their classroom. Some spend more than others, but spend they do. Fact – school supply shopping is a “necessary evil” that some find more problematic than others due to reasons that extend from logistics to economics. Fact – some parents aren’t willing or able to supply their kids with the necessary supplies, but do buy them other goodies. Fact – values placed on school supplies vs other goodies may differ from family to family.

Fact – funding for schools has been decreased and..Opinion – no one wants to raise taxes. For anything. Ever…Look at what you are being asked to purchase as a user’s fee, and far more palatable to Libertarian-types than a tax raise. And, FYI, you clearly haven’t been keeping up with education news if you think that teachers are “guaranteed jobs and tenure.” I’m sorry your spouse lost his job, but teachers have spouses that have lost theirs as well – I know, I am one. Your teacher with the Audi may not have blinked twice at your child’s i-Pod – I’m sorry you’re feeling so defensive, but I think your anger is misplaced. For every slacker parent I have, I have at least 5 supportive and 1 amazing parent. It all balances out.

Government School

July 19th, 2011
5:15 pm

Our school and government system is a joke. Why do I need to pay for all of your brat kids to go to school when I don’t and never will have kids. Parents need to be responsible for their own kids education and not put the burden on those who don’t use the system.

Cobb Mom of 4

July 19th, 2011
5:21 pm

My elementary and now also middle schooler attend Title I schools and yet the parents are still required to send in supplies for the “class”. I spend about 75 to 100 per child for supplies, and absolutely will not send in extra supplies for the class. It’s my understanding that Title I schools get extra federal money for each under-privileged child. Administrators need to put that money where it belongs. In addition there are all types of back to school supply drives by churches and community organizations that will provide free school supplies to those that need it.

I do let the teacher know that if there is a child that seems to truly need supplies, perhaps in foster care or a group home, then I will gladly purchase extra for THAT child anonymously. School administrators and parents on public assistance need to make better use of our tax dollars. Teachers need to take a harder line about spending so much money(that they don’t have) on children whose parents are capable. School administrators need to get their act together, especially in light of the APS mess.

Fayette Teacher

July 19th, 2011
5:40 pm

@ Government School:

Just curious. Who paid for your education? Education is for the good of society.

motherjanegoose

July 19th, 2011
5:50 pm

We have all fussed here before about paying for things that go to other kid’s whose parents refuse to pay. Is there anything we can do about it?

I recently spoke to 2 ladies who just received their Doctorates and were working on a nutrition project. We talked about school lunch and those who take advantage of it.
The consensus was that no politician is going to step out to step up the fraud as he would not be re-elected over lack of empathy for hungry children.

I love kids. Some days, I can barely afford my two. We just did a pre-op for impacted wisdom teeth removal for next week. We have dental insurance that pays 50%. Our health insurance excludes wisdom teeth ( guess some are going this route now) . Our portion is just under $1300. How do people do this with 4-6 kids and no insurance?

Government School

July 19th, 2011
6:21 pm

@Fayette Teacher

My parents sent me to a private school named GAC.

Cobb MS Teacher

July 19th, 2011
6:22 pm

@Cobb Mom of 4 – you said, ” It’s my understanding that Title I schools get extra federal money for each under-privileged child.”

Uhm…it doesn’t quite work that way. Like all government money, Title 1 funds come with lots of strings attached. It’s not an open pool that can be used for whatever (such as unlimited school supplies). I can’t tell you how your school is using its Title 1 money, as each school has its own plan, however as a parent, you should’ve been given a several page document some time during the school year that outlined how the school was implementing Title 1 programs. Parent involvement is a huge requirement of Title 1, and there should be a parent facilitator (paid for by T1 funds, not local money) who can fill you in and answer your questions. The parent facilitators will also coordinate with bbusinesses, churches, and other local charities for supply drives (as well as coat drives when winter comes).

If you don’t want to send in class tissues and hand sanitizer, don’t – send in a personal bottle and package for you child, and be sure to replenish it. I know a lot of parents who do that at the MS level. I don’t believe that pencils, pens, paper, etc should be “community” but that’s just me – I guess like the other MS teacher that posted, I’m mean, lol.