Will your family return to the Gulf this summer?

One year after 172 million gallons of oil started spewing into the clear blue waters of the Gulf of Mexico, scientists are evaluating how the water, its plant life and sea life are recovering.

Their reviews are mixed (surface and beaches look good but what about underneath and long-term), but I am wondering how Atlanta families will rate the recovery. Will they feel safe booking their favorite condos on the Gulf for their summer vacation? Will they return to the Gulf this year?

Here’s what the scientists see going on in the Gulf. From the Associated Press (I am bolding for a quick read):

“Scientists judge the overall health of the Gulf of Mexico as nearly back to normal one year after the BP oil spill, but with glaring blemishes that restrain their optimism about nature’s resiliency, an Associated Press survey of researchers shows.”

“More than three dozen scientists grade the Gulf’s big picture health a 68 on average, using a 1-to-100 scale. What’s remarkable is that that’s just a few points below the 71 the same researchers gave last summer when asked what grade they would give the ecosystem before the spill. And it’s an improvement from the 65 given back in October.”

“At the same time, scientists are worried. They cite significant declines in key health indicators such as the sea floor, dolphins and oysters. In interviews, dozens of Gulf experts emphasized their concerns, pointing to the mysterious deaths of hundreds of young dolphins and turtles, strangely stained crabs and dead patches on the sea floor.”

“The survey results mirror impressions Jane Lubchenco, the head of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, gave on the health of the Gulf in an interview with the AP Thursday.”

“The Gulf is ‘much better than people feared, but the jury is out about what the end result will be,’ she said. “It’s premature to conclude that things are good … There are surprises coming up — we’re finding dead baby dolphins.’ “

“Just as it was before the April 20 accident when the Deepwater Horizon oil rig exploded, ultimately spewing 172 million gallons of oil, the Gulf continues to be a place of contradictions: The surface looks as if nothing ever happened while potentially big problems are hidden deep below the surface, in hard-to-get-to marshes and in the slow-moving food web. Some may not even be known for years.”

” ‘When considering the entire Gulf of Mexico, I think the natural restoration of the Gulf is back to close to where it was before the spill,’ said Wes Tunnell at Texas A&M University, who wrote a scientific advisory report for the federal arbitrator who is awarding money to residents and businesses because of the oil spill. Tunnell’s grades are typical. He says the Gulf’s overall health before the spill was a 70; he gives it a 69 now.”

“If that pre-spill grade isn’t impressive, it’s because the Gulf has long been an environmental victim— oil from drilling and natural seepage, overfishing, hurricanes and a huge oxygen-depleted dead zone caused by absorbing 40 percent of America’s farm and urban runoff from the Mississippi River.”

“Today, a dozen scientists give the Gulf as good a grade as they did before the spill. One of those is Louisiana State University professor Ed Overton, a veteran of oil spills. He described a recent trip to Gulf Shores, Ala.: ‘I walked a half-mile down the beach and there wasn’t a tar ball in sight. It was as pretty as I’ve ever seen it.’ “

“In the survey, some categories, such as red snapper and king mackerel, even average out to higher grades than before the spill, mostly because months of partial fishing bans have helped populations thrive.”

On the Sea Floor:

“While that sounds good, the average grades for the sea floor plunged from 68 pre-spill to a failing grade of 57 now. Dolphins initially seemed to be OK, but as more carcasses than usual kept washing up — almost 300 since the spill — the grade fell to 66, compared to a pre-spill 75. Oysters, always under siege, dropped 10 points, crabs dropped 6 points. And the overall food web slid from 70 before the spill to 64 now.”

” ‘Everything may be fine in some places, but definitely not fine everywhere,’ said University of Georgia researcher Samantha Joye who found dead patches of oiled sea bottom in expeditions near the busted well where 11 men lost their lives. ‘The oil isn’t gone; it’s just not where we can see it.’ “

“Joye said before the oil spill she would have given the sea floor an “A” grade of 90. Now she gives it a 30. Overall, Joye, who has been one of the more hands-on researchers exploring Gulf damage, said its health has plunged from an 80 before the spill to a 50 now, but she was the most pessimistic of the researchers.”

“In five different expeditions, the last one in December, she and her colleagues took 250 cores of the sea floor and travelled 2,600 square miles. She says much of the invisible oil in the water and on the sea bottom has been chemically fingerprinted and traced to the BP spill. She also has pictures of oil-choked bottom-dwelling creatures like crabs and brittle stars — starfish-like critters that are normally bright orange but now are pale and dead.”

In the Marshes:

“This is hidden from view. Eugene Turner, an LSU wetlands scientist, has looked at marshes in Louisiana’s Barataria basin, and found oil buried in the mud and sand.”

” ‘You can’t smell it. You can’t see it. It’s not this big black scum out there, but it’s there,’ Turner said.”

“At this point, the oil is only obvious in a couple of places — with Bay Jimmy the worst-hit. Today, a crust of oil still lines miles of the outer fringe of marsh in the bay, a remote spot deep visited by the occasional fisherman and oil worker.”

“Still, it’s nothing compared to the black gunk stuck on beaches and marshes last summer or the multi-colored slicks so massive they could be tracked by satellite. Those images, along with the pictures of pelicans and seagulls with gobs of oil oozing down their beaks, are now history.”

So what do think of the opposing scientists’ views? Do you have family and friends doing reconnaissance before you book? Have you already booked? Do you plan to vacation in the Gulf this summer?

75 comments Add your comment

Tom

April 20th, 2011
2:17 am

Already booked in Aug.2011 in Destin, FL

TommyGator

April 20th, 2011
6:07 am

The worst damage to the coastal population was done, not by the oil spill, but by media overkill.

shaggy

April 20th, 2011
6:41 am

The natural oil seeps that have existed in the gulf for at least several millenia and probably millions of years, provide food for microbes that evolved there. These microbes find oil and methane irresistable, like women and chocolate. Also, the sub-tropical temperatures help to break down the hydrocarbon molecules into its more basic components. So, the gulf has probably never been a pristine body of water, at least by Clean Water Act standards.

It is alive and crawling with all kinds of life, and they are passing wastes, having sex, and generally don’t wash their itty bitty hands. Then, there are the fish, crabs, dolphins, etc… that are doing the same things, with their bodily functions just floating around, like that candy bar in the “Caddy Shack” pool. Plus, the predators, e.g., sharks and barracuda, that you can’t see, until their teeth are protruding from your blood spurting skin.
You moms need to remember that when you or the little ones go swimming in it.

I leave you with a profound question: “Do people with shell fish allergies get sick when they happen to swim in the ocean, and if so, can they sue the government for not putting up a warning label?”

Libby

April 20th, 2011
6:51 am

Heading out to Destin on Friday for a week (and I can’t wait!).

PHR

April 20th, 2011
7:03 am

I’m booking a place this week for the Gulf. Can’t wait!

jarvis

April 20th, 2011
7:05 am

I am not the least bit objective about this (I’ve mentioned before that I work in petroleum), so I’ll refrain from commenting directly. I am very interested in seeing what others say.

motherjanegoose

April 20th, 2011
7:42 am

We are going to condos we like in both St. Augustine and Marco Island…our usual jaunts and it has nothing to do with anything that happened at the Gulf. I love the Gulf…just not the wall to wall people. I now know just when to go to our favorite places, in between the crowded times and I am not telling :0. I cannot stand hearing my neighbor’s conversation, on the beach, when I am trying to read a book or relax. That is just me.

Since I have been to Montana a few times this year ( just got back) I am also trying to talk my husband into a trip out there, for a cool off in the summer. It is beautiful.

OFF topic…we typically go out to Easter Brunch ( after church) and it has been something of tradition. We now have 5 adults. I have called several places, in the past few weeks, and they are charging $35 to $58 per person. IN THIS ECONOMY? Maybe I am missing something here. We have decided to stay home and fix out own brunch. Anyone?

motherjanegoose

April 20th, 2011
7:44 am

Yes, I do know Marco Island is on the gulf side. We hit red tide there one year in Bonita Beach and that was not fun…it really was stinky!

mom3boys

April 20th, 2011
7:46 am

Went to Gulf over spring break; it was lovely!! Prefer it to Atlantic anytime…won’t hesitate to go back if more $ appears and it’s an option!

Rick

April 20th, 2011
7:50 am

I am going to head there…in about a decade or so.

justmy2cents

April 20th, 2011
7:52 am

We typically do not vacation in the Gulf region for our beach vacations, but we would probably book it. We have friends down in the Gulf Shores area which makes for cheap accomodations. Definitely would not head towards the Louisiana marsh area based on the news report this morning that showed lots of oil and sludge in some nesting grounds.

JJ

April 20th, 2011
8:09 am

Headed to PCB with the fam in July!!!!

I have a feeling this may be our last big family trip. My mom turned 81 last week, and I have noticed that she is starting to slow down. This woman is my IDOL, and THE BEST roll model a girl could have….she still does aerobics three times a week, plays bridge and lunches with the ladies. But lately, when I’ve been with her, she is slowing down. She had to rest on a recent trip to the mall while I was trying on clothes. I try to do stuff with her every other weekend, but lately it’s all been “No I don’t think I want to do that”. This woman used to wear me out.

Anyway, I’m looking forward to this trip. Me, my daughter, Mom, my brother and my two nieces. We always have a blast and I can’t wait to make more memories with my family.

sowega mama

April 20th, 2011
8:25 am

Just got back from PCB. I never thought of not going. I was a little shocked @ the fact that even though we’re in a recession and they WANT people to visit their beaches, that accomodations are at an all time high. Seems to me they would drop their prices to encourage people to visit. Just a thought…

southpaw

April 20th, 2011
8:26 am

We’re headed in a different direction this summer, but not because of the oil spill. A concert we plan to see in Illinois is probably a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. Next year, we may very well go back to the Gulf.

motherjanegoose

April 20th, 2011
8:32 am

@mom3 boys..we have been going to Marco Island for 15 years and never even considered the Atlantic.

I was there for a meeting 5 years ago and now we take a week on both sides, most summers. I rent a condo from the same people each year and can get a week at both places for quite a bit less than $1000 per week…2 BDR 2 BA. Neither are fancy but since I am in hotels all year…I do not need to be impressed. Clean and quiet is what I like and they both fill that bill. The flat beaches in St. Augustine are fun for walks and frisbee! I love time at the beach and look forward to it!

td

April 20th, 2011
8:41 am

If bookings are any indication then the Gulf beaches will be full this summer. I own a condo in PCB, had snowbirds for the months of Feb and March, Booked the first week of April and 4 day weekends for the rest of the month, the week before Memorial Day and every week in June and three out of four weeks in July.

Thank God because the media just about bankrupted me last year. Not one drop of oil hit the beaches in PCB and lost every booking for the month of July.

Lori

April 20th, 2011
8:43 am

I’m more of a Hilton Head Island kind of girl. The coastal islands of Georgia and South Carolina are stunning and I wouldn’t spend my summer any where else!!

ATLnative

April 20th, 2011
8:49 am

@mjg…I would agree that the brunch prices are too high but then again, we have never thought of going somewhere; we always have a meal at my in-laws’ on Easter afternoon, after church.

motherjanegoose

April 20th, 2011
8:54 am

We are the only five relatives in our state. Can we join you at your in laws…:)

Thanks for answering, I thought maybe I was the only one who was amazed at the prices.

@ Lori…I love the way people all have a favorite spot and it is a good thing too, or we would all be in the same place. While in ND, a few weeks ago, a lady told me she would readily take the weeks of below zero winters anytime over hot and humid summers. Me, not so much!

YUKI

April 20th, 2011
8:55 am

Places booked for July and for Labor Day. Would not go to any other beach around here, nothing else compares to the gulf coast.

JJ

April 20th, 2011
8:57 am

@Lori – I’m headed to Hilton Head in about two weeks. I can’t wait. I was there in July last year, and I just love it too, haden’t been in about 18 years. Actually, we are staying at a friend’s parent’s house in Bluffton, but very convenient to HHI & Savannah.

Girlfriend weekend is in St. Simons again this year. I plan on living in SSI within the next 5-7 years. I am ready to shuck the corporate world and enjoy “Salt Life”, but I need to wait until my daughter is totally on her own.

Janice

April 20th, 2011
8:59 am

nope….i was shocked to see, on the news, what is still coming ashore. i do not care what they say, the eco system has been destroyed.

oneofeach4me

April 20th, 2011
9:23 am

We haven’t been to the Gulf in about 6 years as we stuck to the SC coast (which we love by the way)! But the kids are at the age where they want things to do, Water Parks, Put Put, Go Carts, ect. So we booked for Ft. Walton in June. I agree with sowega mama, the prices do seem high for people who need bookings. $2,800 a week for a 3 br condo seems a bit high, I was lucky though, and got a good deal.

Joey Peeps

April 20th, 2011
9:31 am

You mean the gas station?

deegee

April 20th, 2011
9:41 am

The sand on the beach at the Gulf is far superior to the Atlantic Coast, but Hilton Head is a lot more charming than Pensacola and Destin. I went to Pensacola Beach last year and was turned off by the drunks hanging around the beach and the retail outlets. One afternoon I was on the beach and watched a gang of drunken soldiers get into a fist fight around 4:00 after getting kicked out of the Hooters. I listened to the only sober one in the group talking to his commanding officer on the phone. He didn’t know what to do and was seeking advice. No thanks to Pensacola Beach. I’ll take Hilton Head for the natural beauty of the surroundings.

yamama

April 20th, 2011
9:52 am

Deegee. don’t go to Pensacola…go to one of the amazing beaches on Hwy 30A…nothing like the trashy PCB, crowded Destin or Pensacola. It’s a whole different world, and the beaches are beautiful. Very family oriented and peaceful. Hilton Head is really nice too but the beach isn’t as beautiful.

Enemas for Easter

April 20th, 2011
9:56 am

What is “Put Put”?

Enemas for Easter

April 20th, 2011
9:58 am

That’s another thing I don’t get. Why is everyone so excited about the beach? It’s where dirt and water meet.

JJ

April 20th, 2011
9:58 am

@Janice – exactly what news are you talking about, and what is washing up on the shore, and which shore? I haven’t heard…….please elaborate…..

Joey Peeps

April 20th, 2011
10:03 am

I’m thinking Jersey Shore

Vince

April 20th, 2011
10:24 am

I won’t go the gulf coast this summer but the oil spill is just a small part of the reason.

I refuse to spend my money in a state that wants to cut off my water. I haven’t been back to Florida or Alabama since they celebrated their goal of not allowing Atlantans to use our own water out of Lanier. What kind of people do that to their neighbors? Yet they still expect us to come back and pay their exhorbitant prices!

For the last three years I have taken my family to the Carolina and Georgia coasts. The prices are better, the natives are MUCH more friendly to tourists and the people there do not want to destroy my way of life.

The oil spill only put an exclamation point on my decision.

justmy2cents

April 20th, 2011
10:25 am

@ JJ- it was on Channel 2 this morning…they were updating it since it has been a year. http://www.wsbtv.com

Techmom

April 20th, 2011
10:34 am

We went to PCB over spring break; can’t tell anything ever happened in the Gulf from there. I’m sure there’s still damage lurking but we didn’t notice anything. Some of our other family went to Destin and went out deep sea fishing and caught lots of fish.

Quite honestly we have found a great value in all-inclusive resorts in Mexico and the Caribbean and rarely go to the Gulf unless we only have time for a few days. We went to Curacao last year for 7 nights at an all-inclusive including airfare for what it would cost us to rent a condo for a week in PCB. No driving, no cooking, no expensive go-karts, rowdy teenagers who drink too much, etc… makes me wonder why more people don’t go out of the country.

jarvis

April 20th, 2011
10:40 am

Yeah…you should probably write of an entire city because of drunken GI’s. You certainly don’t want to go where our military men are….they are beneath you.

Becky

April 20th, 2011
10:41 am

We’re not beach people,so doubt that we will be going there..We usually go to the mountains.. We like it better and so do the kids..

cc03

April 20th, 2011
10:50 am

@ Lori: I am from Savannah and I love Hilton Head, too. I like Tybee because it’s close to my mom’s house, but Hilton Head is so pretty!

1911A1

April 20th, 2011
11:04 am

Our 7-mo granddaughter’s in Biloxi so going there is a no-brainer. As far as vacationing, I think we’re done with it. Not because of the oil spill, but because of how corporate everything has become. We went to PCB a couple of years ago for the first time in over 20 years, and we had to mourn the loss of what was once a quirky beach town that is now mile after mile of mega-condos. No thanks…not for me. But then we prefer to go someplace different every year anyway – it’s a great big world, and I prefer not going to the same place year after year. YMMV

Vince

April 20th, 2011
11:06 am

Those giant condos along PCB sort of killed the goose that laid the golden egg.

traci

April 20th, 2011
11:10 am

Yamama – I couldn’t agree more about PCB being one of trashiest places in the US. Why on earth would anyone want to spend big $$ to go somewhere so nasty with a bunch of loud teenagers is beyond me. The Atlantic coast has some of the most pristine beachs. If i’m going to spend my hard earned money for a beach trip, that’s where it will always be.

abc

April 20th, 2011
11:11 am

I was vacationing on the Gulf beaches last week, well east of PCB. It’s too crowded at PCB most of the time to suit me, and frankly, a bunch of kids is a buzz kill when what I’m after is peace, quiet, and the sound of the surf. I was glad that where we were was mostly deserted.

There were lots of dolphins, and they put on quite a daily show, often not more than 50 feet out from the shore. Rays, crabs, fish in abundance, also quite visible when walking the shore. There were some tarballs that washed up with shells, even though the spill supposedly didn’t travel that far east. We may well never get the truth, or even full information, about the real extent and environmental impact of that spill. We ate the local seafood, though, it was great.

Lori

April 20th, 2011
11:35 am

I agree the beaches at Hilton Head aren’t quite as lovely as the gulf coast, but it’s the activities we go there for. Every been shark fishing!!!! What fun. Even for the kids, you can go on a party boat and fish for the baby ones. Little ones LOVE that. My son gets a hoot out of “crap hunting” at night. The beaches are littered with little crabs and we chase them with nets in the dark walking down the beach. We go every year for July 4th and stay in a condo, so we save money on the food. We kayak in the rivers, you can rent a boat and see the dolphins, fishing is awesome, biking, etc. And yes there is putt-putt too (and golf of course). Great fun (and active fun, not just laying around) for the whole family!!

JJ

April 20th, 2011
11:58 am

We always have a blast in PCB. We stay way down on the “family” side, by St. Andrews State Park. Yes there are trashy teenagers, but where AREN’T they?????

The place we stay is quiet and very beautiful. We stay at the same condos every time. A little tar ball on the beach is NOT going to stop me from enjoying my relaxing vacation. I love to walk the beach with my iPod. I can walk for miles……..I love the beach.

Theresa Walsh Giarrusso

April 20th, 2011
1:18 pm

I think families head more to Orange Beach and Gulf Shores. We did Orange Beach two years ago and had a blast. It is very family focused. I know Jesse’s Girl goes there too. We were there about the same time and didn’t even know it.

I used to babysit for a family that took me with them to San Destin every year and that was always lovely. I haven’t been there as an adult. But I bet it’s more family friendly than PCB.

The think I have always like about Hilton Head is the trees and shade. I am one white Irish girl that burns so quickly. At HH you can still do things in the afternoons because there are trees. We used to go to New Smyrna when I was little and we just had to hide during the hot hours. There were no trees to shade you.

JJ

April 20th, 2011
1:19 pm

Theresa – did you ever find my email?

Enemas for Easter

April 20th, 2011
1:44 pm

The think you have always liked about Hilton Head……What does the mean?

JJ….Give it up, she is ignoring you for a reason.

jarvis

April 20th, 2011
1:50 pm

@E for E, stop being adick.

JATL

April 20th, 2011
1:53 pm

There are still umpteen bazillion families in PCB every year. I hadn’t been there since the late 80s, and a friend got a freebie time share from her in-laws a few years ago, so we took a girl’s trip. I was HORRIFIED at the high rise condos! GROSS! It looked like pictures I’ve seen of Atlantic City or something. There were thousands (and I do mean thousands) of kids and families everywhere. I do agree with Orange Beach/Gulf Shores instead for a family vacation -and the stretch also mentioned away from Destin and PCB is fantastic -Santa Rosa, etc.

I would go to the Gulf -and we may yet this year. I think we’ll see lingering effects for years to come from the spill, but for vacationing I think it’s fine. I’ve always loved it, but we love St. Augustine, Hilton Head and Kiawah too. I love those wide, flat beaches you can ride bikes on for miles! The waves are also better. I’m generally happy on either side though -as long as I get to the beach.

Enemas for Easter

April 20th, 2011
2:11 pm

Name calling? Really?

jarvis

April 20th, 2011
2:45 pm

Just calling it like I see it. You are intentionally being unkind.

Techmom

April 20th, 2011
2:58 pm

@Enemas – you should get used to it as long as you’re going to be a smartass.

JJ

April 20th, 2011
3:00 pm

Apparently someone’s bored and trying to stir something up…

Enemas for Easter

April 20th, 2011
3:05 pm

If you’re unhappy with my remarks, fine. Resorting to insults is childish.

Enemas for Easter

April 20th, 2011
3:06 pm

And to stay on topic, Hilton Head is THE place for the beach.

motherjanegoose

April 20th, 2011
3:40 pm

JJ..when we go to the beach, we never encounter trashy teenagers. We have just figured out when/where to go.

You will not catch me anywhere that is noisier than my own neighborhood…may as well stay home and save the $$$. To me, a vacation at the beach needs to be QUIET. We go other places each summer for culture, such as Boston. Yes, PCB has culture…just not the kind I enjoy.

I will be at the Jersey Shore next week, for a meeting. That, to me, is quite different than Florida. We also went to the beach in Oregon, last summer. It was really beautiful! The beaches in Hawaii are also incredible…some are so remote and quiet…it is amazing.

We have seen Manatees, at the beach in Marco Island and they are fascinating! When the kids were smaller, we went to Hilton Head but I have not been in years.

shaggy

April 20th, 2011
3:42 pm

E for E is a troll that used to post crap here, until TWG got their IP address banned.
They (e for e) will soon be looking for alternative arrangements, i.e., yet another IP address to troll from.

JD

April 20th, 2011
3:46 pm

You can take an all inclusive trip to Jamaica for only $625 per person. 4 nights and 5 days. The beaches there will literally take your breath and the flight is only 1.50 hrs. I have to say it was the best vacation I’ve ever had and will opt for it again when I get a beach craving.

Enemas for Easter

April 20th, 2011
3:53 pm

I’m a troll? I’m not the one tossing the insults around.

I’ve heard horror stories about Jamaica with crime. Is that true?

MomsRule

April 20th, 2011
4:09 pm

I’ve been to Jamaica 4 times, 4 different resorts and beaches. They were the worst vacations we’ve taken. Yes, they have amazing beaches and they also have horribly pushy locals and drug dealers everywhere. And, yes, these people are even on the all inclusive properties.

I don’t enjoy being baggered at every turn by the local people or smelling the weed instead of the ocean breeze because they are a few feet off shore trying to sell to the tourists. Although, my kids did receive a great education on the stupidity of drugs during our last trip.

And, we stayed at very high end properties every time. Still sucked.

Enemas for Easter

April 20th, 2011
4:12 pm

I know a guy who went to Jamaica just so he could buy weed and nothave to smuggle it there.

motherjanegoose

April 20th, 2011
4:37 pm

@ MomsRule…my husband heard they same thing from someone at work.

Lady Strange

April 20th, 2011
4:41 pm

I’m not a beach goer, I prefer the mountains. The only reason to go to the ocean is if I’m going fishing.

MomsRule

April 20th, 2011
4:56 pm

E for E — no doubt! There are many people that enjoy traveling to Jamaica for the ease of indulging. To each their own.

Its just not my thing…and certainly not what I want to be dealing with while at a “family” property. More irritating than the drugs though is just the down right rude pushy locals. Horrible. And, seriously, many of them need to shower. The airports are not enjoyable. ICK

During my first trip to Jamaica, hubby and I went out on a snorkeling excursion. As we are face down in the water some of the guests start getting hit in the head by locals in canoes trying to sell crap. Seriously?!? Where the heck do they think we are holding our cash??

newblogger

April 20th, 2011
5:55 pm

Being from South Alabama, PCB is almost home for me. I’m headed there for a wedding the first weekend in June and will probably stay a few days. Second choice is Tybee-because it’s close to Savannah and that is one of my favorite cities. I think I’ll retire there someday.

ZachsMom

April 20th, 2011
7:30 pm

Can’t wait to get back there!!!

djm_NC

April 20th, 2011
7:49 pm

@shaggy–i am allergic to shellfish (dammit) and i do not get sick when i swim in the ocean.

Kat

April 20th, 2011
8:46 pm

E for E: I know a guy who went to Jamaica just so he could buy weed and nothave to smuggle it there.

What does THAT mean? I’m sorry but your one minor typo has made it impossible for me to discern what you were trying to say…

Kat

April 20th, 2011
8:47 pm

Theresa: JJ and Jeff are trying to get you to provide them with a personal hook-up. Please see to their needs as soon as possible. Thanks!

DB

April 21st, 2011
1:05 am

I was just down there two weeks ago, at the Sandestin resort — it was lovely. Scientists can argue all they want to — when they agree about “global warming”, then I’ll start listening to their various opinions about the Gulf.

DB

April 21st, 2011
1:08 am

Do NOT get me started about Jamaica . . . I love the melting list of a Jamaican accent, and jerk chicken. But the whole island is just one big nasty drug hole.

motherjanegoose

April 21st, 2011
7:05 am

DB…you picked a great time to go. That area of the gulf is lovely, I just do not like the crowds. I spend too much time in them at the airport. When we go to Marco Island, we are typically the only ones in the pool in the complex we visit…low season. We also go to St. Augustine during the low time and love it when it is quiet and we can enjoy the beach without a crowd. I love St.Augustine itself and enjoy the history.

HB

April 21st, 2011
9:58 am

DB, scientists do agree on global warming — 90% say it’s happening. If you ask climate scientists, the ones who are truly experts in this area, the number goes up to 97%.

shaggy

April 21st, 2011
10:39 am

HB,

Yes, you are correct, and I have seen the receding glaciers with my own eyes. The disagreement is on the cause. Glacier National Park might be glacier free in 20 or less years. The equatorial glaciers are shrinking too, and these are not subject to seasonal ebb and flow. The weather is constant there, except for rainy and dry seasons…no season progression.

Is it a continuation of the warm up that followed the last ice age 10,000+ years ago, or is it caused by burning fossil fuels, or is it some of both? It is definately happening. Also, we are not likely to be able to do anything about it, because we might lack the means…it might be ireversible, and we probably lack the determination to act…we love burning stuff.

Dan

April 21st, 2011
12:48 pm

I wonder if CNN is going to reimburse any gulf businesses that lost money due to there henny penny routine last year? The reality is the over sensationalism of the coverage hurt businesses as much or more than the actual oil spill

Dan

April 21st, 2011
1:03 pm

@HB Not sure about percentages of scientists as I suspect nobody has polled them all (or defined scientist for that matter) but your numbers are far higher than I have seen before. However I digress, some % that are verifiable (as opposed to subjective or just plain manufactured) is this CO2 represents .0387% of the atmosphere indeed until environmentalists started looking for a scapegoat it could be found under Other in charts detailing the atmospheric makeup. So starting with .0387% (thats right the real number is .000387) and further acknowledging that only 4% of that is man made. Brings the anthropogenic amount to .00155% of the atmosphere. The natural fluctuations in the concentrations of CO2 and other gasses based on local conditions and weather trends far exceeds that. The notion that so miniscule an amount could have catostrophic consequences is preposterous

justmy2cents

April 21st, 2011
6:20 pm

Re: Jamaica

Hubby and I go every year; yes there are drugs available if you want them ( we don’t) but they have never been pushed on us. We love the beaches and the scuba, and these are always the best vacations we take each year. You guys must be going to the wrong places!!!