Should kids be separated from parents based on immigration status?
The Huffington Post is reporting that a 4-year-old girl who is a U.S. citizen was sent back to Guatemala when she entered the country with her grandfather.
Here is part of the story from The Huffington Post (check the link for all the details):
“The girl, Emily Samantha Ruiz, is a U.S. citizen. But she, like many other children of undocumented immigrants, became caught in a web of complications for families with mixed legal statuses. On her way home from a trip to Guatemala with her grandfather on March 11, Emily was detained in Dulles International Airport when authorities stopped her grandfather on an illegal entry charge from more than a decade ago.
“Authorities took her grandfather, a non-citizen on a valid work visa that allowed him to travel, into custody. But the young girl was detained in the airport, then sent back to Guatemala with her grandfather, citizenship notwithstanding. ”
Her family claims they were told Emily would either have to be sent back to Guatemala or put in a juvenile facility in the U.S. where she could end up in foster care.
U.S. Customs and Border Protection claimed they did offer the Ruiz family an opportunity to pick the girl up from authorities before she was sent back.
The father, who speaks Spanish, said the officer only spoke to him in English and he was not offered a translator. So he didn’t believe he was offered the choice of coming to get his daughter.
But there’s more to the story if you read down further:
“If Emily’s parents had gone to pick up their daughter from authorities, they could have risked deportation along with her grandfather. Immigration law leaves few options for immigrants who entered the country illegally and hope to gain legal status, typically requiring undocumented immigrants to return to their native country for a decade before they can reenter the country legally. Emily’s father, who told The New York Times he entered the United States unauthorized in 1996, could face detention if he encounters immigration officials. ”
“More than 100,000 parents of citizen children were deported between 1998 and 2007, according to a 2009 Homeland Security report. Many families contain both citizens or legal permanent residents and undocumented immigrants, including those like the Ruiz family where only young children have U.S. citizenship. About 4 million citizen children have at least one parent who is undocumented, according to a Pew Hispanic Center study of 2009 census data released in August.”
The story states that the more common twist on this is that the illegal parents are deported and the child is left behind alone in the U.S. (There are more details on the ins and outs of the immigration labyrinth toward the end of the story.)
The little girl will likely be reunited with her family soon. Rep. Steve Israel (D-N.Y.) is helping the family sort it all out.
So what do you think? Who do you believe? Was the family offered a choice to come and get their daughter but they were worried they would be deported? Did the immigration officials do this family wrong by not speaking in Spanish to them where they could understand their choices?
What should happen to families where the parents are illegal but the children are legal? Should families be split up based on immigration status?
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Georgia born Latino
March 24th, 2011
12:49 pm
@a_mom… You make valid points. I think most rational people will agree that border security should be a higher priority, and to this date has been botched by the feds.
That said, GEORGIA isn’t a border state! Illegal immigrants, especially those who are just here to work and provide for their families, are part of Georgia’s fabric, and will continue to be. I agree that our schools and hospitals are suffering, but healthcare was a problem long before anyone blamed the illegals, and our schools have been steadily declining for decades, regardless of how much was spent on education. Is the solution to SPEND millions, even billions, to ship them all back where they came from, or potentially BRING IN millions, even billions, once they become legal residents? (notice I did not say citizens. That is a priviledge earned over time.)
As a mother, are you telling me you wouldn’t break a law of any kind to give your children a better life, or shield them from harm? You know in your heart what the answer to that question is.
Tired of the taking
March 24th, 2011
12:52 pm
“We once went to war to help the small, the weak, the oppressed”
Ever heard of Libya? By the way, they produce a miniscule amount of the oil we use here in the US.
Kate
March 24th, 2011
12:54 pm
I have a friend who was brought into this country illegally as a young child by her parents, who also came here illegally. She grew up in this country, looks and sounds “American”, has never been arrested (or even had a traffic ticket) and speaks fluent English. Her husband is an American born citizen and U.S. Marine and they have two children together. Her illegal status was a source of deep embarrassment and shame for her. She had been advised by several immigration attorneys over the years not to apply for citizenship since, although she was breaking the law, as long as she didn’t try to change her status from “illegal” to “legal” she was under the radar of immigration authorities and could, essentially, stay here illegally for the rest of her life. But, because she loves this country, considers herself to be an American, and as a mother felt she should set a good example for her family, she decided to pursue her citizenship anyway. Shortly after she applied she was informed that she was being deported and sent back to Mexico. She knows virtually no one in Mexico and speaks very little Spanish. She was forced to leave behind her husband and children and go live with relatives she barely knows back in Mexico and continue to pursue her goal of being allowed to re-enter the U.S. legally, although she had been told by authorities that that is unlikely. Ironically, her parents and all of her siblings continue to live in this country illegally, simply because they never attempted to apply for citizenship.
Once you look at illegal aliens as individual human beings instead of just one giant mass, you see that this isn’t a black and white issue. When you think of an illegal you naturally have a mental image of shifty, uneducated thug, entering the U.S. for the sole purpose of committing crime. Certainly there are those who fit that description, but I would argue at least as many illegals are good people who very much want to be here legally but have absolutely no idea of how to go about achieving that goal. These are people who truly love this country and value it in a way that those of us born and raised here never could.
Tired of the taking
March 24th, 2011
1:01 pm
“and our schools have been steadily declining for decades, regardless of how much was spent on education”
Illegals have been here for decades so what is your point? Illegals come in many nationalities by the way and that is the problem with our declining schools. We want to produce the best and brightest like China does. China educates one culture, US public schools must teach a dozen or more. Look at the GCPS website for an illustration.
shaggy
March 24th, 2011
1:03 pm
Kate,
Truly a sad story, but if these illegals had done the right thing several years ago, they would have no problem. It was not the hot button then that it is now. Hopefully your firend will take this opportunity to connect with her people, learn Spanish, and help them fix their country.
ann
March 24th, 2011
1:10 pm
The father has been here since 1996 and hasn’t asssimilated so he doesn’t understand the language of the country he is in illegally boo hoo. Grandpa takes the girl out of the country and gets caught trying to enter illegally boo hoo. The adults broke the law and the parents (unfit as they may be) chose to let the child leave to save their own sorry a$$es. Maybe the child would be better in a juvenile facility. Did the dad ask for an interpreter? Is the child also a citizen of Guatamala? How much have we paid in welfare for this family already? Ship them all back. If they leave the child in Guatamala, they are breaking up their own
family as they stay here illegally. If the child comes back, the parents are still here illegally and should be deported. What loving parent would leave a 4 year old in their home country while they live on the tax payers’ dime. They only want her back because of the benefits to anchor babies.
Sage
March 24th, 2011
1:18 pm
Healthcare was not a problem long before illegals came into the picture. As early as 2000 many citizens had excellent coverage. Families like mine paid premiums and often did not use what we put in, that why they call it insurance. Now my kid’s pediatrician office is filled with patients that do not pay a dime. All I hear is peach care for the people ahead of me not paying and when I finally get to the counter they want payment in full even though I have insurance. I have seen the healthcare system bankrupt itself with my own eyes.
IF illegals are given legal residency they will not bring BILLIONS into our economy. What is happening now will change. There is no magic wand you can wave over this entire situation.
Sage
March 24th, 2011
1:19 pm
What is happening now will NOT change
Erica
March 24th, 2011
1:40 pm
P.S. Did you all read the latest story on all the news outlets that the 2010 Census showed that Hispanics are now 1 in every 5 in the U.S. population, numbering 50 million in the 2010 census? Wondering how that ties into the immigration issue and the current popular push to “throw em all out?” What’s the fuel behind the rancor: a renewed need for immigration enforcement (minimal to none over the last 10-20 years)or……very simply….fear? Fear of what this country’s demographic may look like in coming years and how that would change/ shift shape political and economic power?
Interesting timing….stay tuned.
Georgia born Latino
March 24th, 2011
1:43 pm
Yes, it will, Sage, IF a stronger border is first developed. I firmly believe in this country’s sovereign right to secure its borders. Once you do that, you can effectively deal with the millions already here.
If you don’t secure the border, then nothing will ever change for the better, for citizens or illegals who would love nothing more than to assimilate if able.
Georgia born Latino
March 24th, 2011
1:49 pm
Example, Sage. If we just use the total cost of fees to achieve residency, total cost is 2 to 3 thousand dollars per application, once all the forms are submitted. If you added to that a fine, like what Utah has proposed, of $1500 to $2500, depending on whether you entered illegally or are overstaying a visa, you get a figure of at least $3500 per application.
With 12 million illegals already here, you’re talking about over $40 Billion coming IN, not counting the increased tax load they would carry. You could divert that money directly to maintaining a virtually impenetrable border.
Sage
March 24th, 2011
2:18 pm
George, lets take the lowest fine of $1500. You expect illegals to fork over any money in fines? No, they want amnesty and residency and the lifestyle they were accustomed to back in 2007. Most could care less about being citizens. And yes, I do know what I am talking about. You are not lone self proclaimed expert on illegals that you claim to be.
Heck, even at your $40B in fines that we know we will never see, that is only 10 days worth of what the national debt is taking.
Illegal increased tax load? Were talking jobs that illegals have now, minimum wage and labor jobs often with no benefits. So you think illegals are all of a sudden going to be major contibutors and not continue to take at they fast clip that they do.
George, your figures don’t add up!
Cobb Woman of Color
March 24th, 2011
2:21 pm
If the process is followed and there is discrimination, it is legitimate. If the process is not followed, and special treatment is expected, it is not discrimination.
The risk the parents took coming to another country illegally is known. If they are caught, then the they must abide by the rule of law.
I am sick and tired of illegal immigrants expecting special treatment and using the Civil Rights movement to back up their cause. Blacks were Americans who fought for fair treatment in their “own” country.
papason100
March 24th, 2011
2:23 pm
No Compassion for illegals aliens whatsoever, I married a canadian citizen and went thru the proper channels so she could be legal here, Cost me 2K to do this. Yet these bloodsucks want to be given all this for free and demand it. Deport every single one of them. What is funny Canada one of the most liberal countries has stricter immigration laws than we do and enorce them heavily.. lol Im tired of the governemnt being to scared to speak up to these people who have no rights but are quick to reprimand hard working tax payers
Xilo
March 24th, 2011
2:38 pm
I feel that we need to look to the past. If you are wanting to send all the illegals away, then we should all leave, save for the Native Americans. What our ancestors did was steal land that was not theirs, push away the ones that belonged here, killed them with their diseases and massacred those that opposed them. We are all immigrants. When our ancestors came to this land did they have to fill out immigration papers and wait for decades to be able to come legally? No they did not. I have adopted a son that was born in Mexico. I am his only parent according to his birth certificate and we are still trying to legalize him. He is now 16 years old and has been with me since he was 7. If I had tried to legalize him before bringing him to this country he would have received his legal entry papers after it was too late. He wouldn’t have needed a mother then. So can you see what our problems are with the legal way and right way to do things? I certainly can, maybe because I have an insight into the immediate problems. The illegal immigrants that don’t need to be here are those that are commiting crimes and they are making it hard for those that are here working, paying their taxes of which they have no hope of ever receiving. So if we kick them all out and if we change the “anchor-baby” law, then everyone with white skin and no Native American heritage should also be forced to leave!!! Then lets see where this country ends up. Much better I’m sure.
Sage
March 24th, 2011
2:48 pm
Sorry Georgia born Latino – not George as in my previous post.
I have done my due dilligence and gone back to read through all the posts. You were very wordy with lots of fluff cut and pasted from the internet. Must also agree that you and ‘Erica’ make an interesting tag-team and wouldn’t be too shocked if your ip addresses looked identical. William might as well be your alter egos too.
Lots and lots are valid points from taxpaying American citizens and you still find something from your playbook to come back with. Lawmakers are finally paying attention to what we want. The ball is in our court, always has been, but we just got lazy in the 7th inning so to speak.
I really don’t think you know the illegal population like you claim. They have pulled one over on you, a latino, just as they have done to us. It probably hurts a lot knowing that your fighting a loosing battle, I can tell you are passionate but for the wrong reasons.
I trust that you’ll find someone else to argue with and still feel a false sense of security that you are making a difference. Truely I think it’s too late. You do too but it will just take time to admit it to yourself.
Elizabeth Hernandez
March 24th, 2011
3:02 pm
I am a born US citizen and my parents are Mexicans with US citizenship through Naturalization. I am on both sides. I believe that the girl has the right to come to the US because she was BORN in the US as she please,s as for the parents they do need to respect the laws. They should go back to Guatemala with their daughter and if the little girl wants to stay here then she can stay with a family member who is allowed to be in the US. We do need to secure our borders because I am tired of paying taxes for illegals to have their babies so they can stay and be put on welfare and receive money, health care, and food for FREE! I don’t receive those types of benefits why should they? I pay taxes for them and I am tired of it if I ask for help from the government they won’t help me, but they ask for help they get it! On the other hand illegals have jobs that Americans don’t want and for a lower cost for Americans. We benefit from the work they do after all they take of our kids, clean our homes, and build our homes.
poetic Justice
March 24th, 2011
3:15 pm
We were once the land of opportunity that has now turned into the land for opportunists.
Joshua
March 24th, 2011
3:30 pm
I’m afraid the question here is being worded wrong. It’s not up to immigration officials to decided whether a family should be split up or not, that incredibly hard question is left to the family itself. This is simple, citizens of the US should be allowed to live here, and non citizens should not. That is how the law is written (with expection for work and school visa’s, temporary green cards..ect..), and for good reason. Too just open the flood gates and allow anyone and everyone to pour in, will only hurt an already hurting economy.
Now, that being said, it’s up to the families to decided if it’s important enough for them to have their kid(s) live in America, that they would split up their own family. No one thinks this will be an easy decision to make, but who ever said life is easy. There are ways for people to immigrate legally, and that’s what people who wish to come here need to do (which by the way is a TON easier then immigrating to most other countries). Also, keep in mind that the US does not make a habbit or forcing people back to their homeland if the situation is unstable, or would threaten their life or their families life.
And, keep in mind that breaking the law before you’re even a citizen is not going to help your chances of gaining citizenship, doesn’t look good on your resume… just a word of advice.
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***the comments here in no way attack any race, and only wish to see the laws already in place carried out, without bias to nationality, religion, or color***
Andre J.
March 24th, 2011
3:30 pm
The illegal alien workforce can be replaced in many instances with our low-security prison inmates and jail population. Why not put these law breakers to work paying back the communities for the crimes for which they committed.
My brothers are not interested in being good fathers to their children in or out of prison. Why should we feel sorry for illegals and their anchor children a name which fits them quite well.
Hay
March 24th, 2011
3:45 pm
How is it that 4000 illegal immigrants can afford to be off from whatever job it is they have and pay for a babysitter to go protest. Oh wait, they are living off of their multiple anchor babies public assitsance stipend, so they have all day, while actual taxpayers can’t leave their job to counter protest.
This debate is tired. Really really tired. If the parents come to the United States illegally and abuse the 14th amendment by having as many babies as quickly as possible for the US citizen taxpayer subsidized benefits then the whole family should be sent back to their native country and the birthright privilege revoked for the kids. Tell me please, how many illegal immigrants are paying enough taxes to cover their own hospital bills, welfare checks, and all of the free social services that they abuse? Oh wait, the majority of the money the illegals get paid under the table without any taxes withheld is sent back to their native countries via remittance.
One of the biggest problems that I have is that the illegals don’t come to this country to become part of the US culture, they don’t even attempt to learn the native language, which believe it or not, is English people. It says in the article that they were chanting in Spanish. All they want to do is live off the working US citizen taxpayer.
Ask any generational citizen what they think of when they say US citizen, but I guarantee you it’s not the children of illegal immigrants. If you were born in the US to illegal immigrants, then you are not a US citizen in my book. Unfortunately, these people know how to manipulate the 14th Amendment.
The illegal father should have been worried that he would have been deported, but yet he complains that he wasn’t given an interpreter and all he speaks is Spanish. Learn English. Enough said…..
James Giles
March 24th, 2011
3:50 pm
A country can only sustain so many people. America can’t let everybody in. Illegals are putting a burden on our welfare system because many of them have 4, 5 kids. Look at the statistics and you will find many of them have really big families. My question is: Why do they continue to have kids they can’t afford? So, they can add an even bigger burden to our welfare system?
Cobb Woman of Color
March 24th, 2011
4:28 pm
@Denise
You are correct. No one has compassion for Haitians. Several years ago, ICE had a raid on a house in my neighborhood. They took away several members of an African family who overstayed their visas. Yet, several families from South America who are here illegally and who have been reported by the neighbors have never been questioned. Double standard!
YUKI
March 24th, 2011
4:29 pm
Yes, James Giles, that is exactly why they have so many kids. If we are paying for them, WHY NOT?
My husband and I both work full time and I doubt we could afford 4 or 5 kids. Oh, that’s right. We pay for our own stuff like food, a house, and health insurance.
Cobb Woman of Color
March 24th, 2011
4:36 pm
From the PeachCare website…
PeachCare for Kids™ exceeded its two year enrollment goal in its first year of operations. Georgia ranks fourth nationally in numbers of enrolled children. Only California, New York, Florida, and Texas have enrolled more children.
The states have a high number of people illegally residing in the state.
Cobb Woman of Color
March 24th, 2011
4:42 pm
@Georgia Born Latino,
More often than not, most Blacks in America do not sympathize with the plight of those here illegally. It may seem so with the sprinkling of the so-called Black leaders who don’t speak for the “majority” of people of color.
I remember a few years ago, one of the Latino organization’s lawyers spoke at a Cobb County Commission meeting. She compared the plight of illegals to the Civil Rights movement. She upset the Blacks in the audience with her comparison and we let her know how upset we felt. She apologized. I hope that the Latino leaders will follow suit and instead of trying to force this on the American people, work to improve the legal process of obtaining a work permit or green card.
Cobb Woman of Color
March 24th, 2011
4:48 pm
@James Giles
They have large families because many Latinos are Catholic. The Catholic Church doesn’t support taking birth control.
Many American families had large families until a few decades ago. However, with education, less reliance on farming, women entering the workplace more and other factors led to the decrease in family size.
Breaking News: Illegals are immune to high pollen counts
March 24th, 2011
4:57 pm
from the AJC article: “Arizona has faced economic boycotts since it enacted similar legislation last year, though a federal judge has halted some of the most controversial parts of that law. Sen. Vincent Fort, D-Atlanta, said Thursday that people should boycott Georgia if its legislation is enacted.”
Those boycotts in AZ did not work, they never do. Many more threated to boycott BP after the gulf oil disaster, and yet has that business suffered any significant loss in comparison?
Were the white t-shirts suppose to make it look like they had a larger crowd than 4,000? I saw no aerial or wide angle camera shots, just little snip its.
That was so thoughtful of the Indigo Girls to give them a bon voyage concert. Prayers for the journey back home from our local clergy as well.
nanr.loveall
March 24th, 2011
5:15 pm
Buiness likes them for their buying power, useing whoes money, politicians like them , more votes for freebies therefor goverment has to collect more money, form the middle working people because they have to ,more politicians to repersent all the people, political people never cut their benefits, Mexicans do not have to put children in car seats, have you ever saw one fasten up 4 little one s in seats, they dont have social security no to go to school , they will be provided a no. DONT DO BUSSNESS WITH ANY, WHO HIRES ONE, LEGAL OR ILLLEGAL< BOYCOTT
Georgia born Latino
March 24th, 2011
6:14 pm
@Cobb Woman of Color… I am quite aware of that. I’m Atlanta born n bred, and my father is african-american, making officially of mixed race. I have grown up with and known many Blacks who had nothing nice to say about hispanics, regardless of legal status. I’ve even been told by more than one, “As long as they’re messing with your people, they have less time to mess with mine.”
One thing I would like to point out to you is that while the plight of the illegal immigrant of today bares little resemblance on the surface to the Civil Rights Movement, you must remember that the spirit behind the great Martin Luther King’s actions was “equality for all”, not just his people. Whether you like it or not, illegals, although they are NOT citizens with FULL rights, do enjoy basic civil and HUMAN rights under US law, and these rights have been asserted in court by the Supreme Court… please see Yick Wo v. Hopkins (1886), which showed the the ‘due process’ applied in the 14th Amendment applied to “an alien, who has entered the country, and has become subject in all respects to its jurisdiction, and a part of its population, although alleged to be illegally here.”
Let’s see… Warrantless arrests, Racial Profiling, Being held without bail… are these not civil rights violations???
Georgia born Latino
March 24th, 2011
6:18 pm
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/rightsandfreedoms/a/illegalrights.htm
catlady
March 24th, 2011
6:32 pm
Erica@11:51. On the whole, it isn’t “perception.” The kids frequently allude to their parents’ status. It really doesn’t matter to me on the individual level. I enjoy teaching ESOL and my children, and their parents’ status is only germane to me when it interferes with the progress of their children. For instance, if there is a problem, and a parent is needed to come to school, it sometimes takes awhile. This is because 50% of the mothers do not drive at all, and they have to find a way to come (half our kids have Guatemalan parents). Some are hesitant to take their sick/hurt child to the ER, afraid they will be “found out.” If you are savvy about this population, you understand how the parents’ status can make life difficult for their USA-born kids. It is a bad situation to be in, especially if some of the siblings were born here and some were not.
We need to find a solution to the problem of illegal immigration. It is in the best interests of ALL. My opinion, based on what I see from where I sit.
deidre_NC
March 24th, 2011
6:59 pm
as far as i know american is one of the very few places where illegals have the same right as citizens. how is that right? when you travel to another country you are told ‘the US constitution does not go with you”. i really dont blame people for wanting to come here from a terrible place. i cant understand why they dont do it the legal way. and i really cannot fathom why this country lets it happen. and as far as latinos being catholic being the reason they have so many kids-due to the catholic ban on birth control…does the catholic church say its ok to do illegal things, like be here when its not legal for you to be here? i think not.
it just really blows my mind that people who are not citizens are given the same rights as citizens and are eligible to all the ‘entitlements’ of the welfare system. our country is broke. probably beyond broke. why can dss not let illegals into the programs that were established to help US citizens? i dont understand that.
Rhonda
March 24th, 2011
7:05 pm
I think children shouldn’t be spilt from there parents. I don’t believe that they gave that family a choice to pick up there child.and if they did it was a trick to have them deported also. I have a story that is close in nature and at the time of being detain for 6 hours. My lawyer and husband both called to see if they could pick up my 3month old son that needed to be feed.they refused and told them No with no reason. Both my boys our without there father on a daily bases while I wait for my paperwork which has taking over a year and they tell us another 6months to a year.we have tried everything wrote letters to everyone. And no one can seem to help
Brittanicus
March 24th, 2011
7:23 pm
STOP THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT OCCUPATION
America has a new version of the E-Verify system that should be officially mandated by the federal government, so all businesses must conform or face harsh penalties. Currently Prison terms are not high on the list for employers, who knowingly hire discount labor. Painful fines should also be approved, with confiscation of business assets and property involved in the criminal enterprise. Around this nation an estimated 8.5 million jobs has been stolen during the illegal alien invasion, with over ten million in a legitimate labor force still hunting for jobs. This is not a satisfactory circumstance for the TEA PARTY leadership, whom are building their ranks of pro-sovereignty people. Americans are furious and frustrated with business as usual. E-Verify is voluntary currently owing to the blocked vote of Democrat, pro-illegal immigrant Harry Reid. It was diverted by him in the Senate from being permanently installed as an enforcement tool. THE DEPT OF JUSTICE USED THE GREAT STATE OF ARIZONA AS AN ILLEGAL ALIEN CAUSE, BECAUSE THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HIS HEAVILY INFILTRATED WITH LEFTIST DOCTRINES.
AMERICA IS BEING DEPLETED OF OVER BILLIONS OF DOLLAR ANNUALLY BY ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION OCCUPATION. THEY ARE ARRIVING NOT ONLY IN ARIZONA, CALIFORNIA OR JUST BORDER STATES, BUT ALL STATES EAST.
Lobbyists for big business have been detrimental for generations, pushing their ideas, philosophies with large campaign contribution. Undisclosed cash and gifts hidden from public viewing and no policing, has brought portentous advantage in Washington and State Congressional offices. Like so many other Unions, the SEIU has unknown numbers of illegal alien labor in their membership, to abundantly add to their shrinking numbers. Many protests that we see today for illegal immigrant rights are mobilized by trade union influence. Only new converts like Arizona Representative Jeff Flake who has joined the ranks of pro-sovereignty activists, is already being demonized for his change of political tactics on illegal immigration. He has obviously seen that we cannot subsidize the forever snowballing effect of public welfare costs and the inability of this country to sustain a growing population, depletion of energy, water and spreading trend of farm land for development.
E-Verify has been successfully overhauled and now has grown in popularity with hundreds of thousands of honest companies in every State implementing its resources. However, this is not so in the Sanctuary States of Nevada, California, New Jersey and Texas. California, with Nevada is heavily in debt, credited to the Liberal influences in its legislative politicians enacting laws in Sacramento and Virginia City. California, Nevada have one of the largest illegal populations in the country, where foreigners are draining the welfare, workers compensation, unemployment benefits and other public services. Many of these people are using fake ID, as countless numbers do for years, undermining many regular Americans credit history and personal information. Other States are just becoming more aware of the grave situation, caused by the economic aliens crossing our–ALL–borders or flying in from foreign countries.
Until a politician becomes a victim of stolen ID or fraudulent documentation nothing will be accomplished in Washington. No legitimate person’s papers will be safe as even new born babies, military abroad or even a deceased Social Security number is prey. Many are here to cheat the system so taxpayers are forced by federal law to fund their family’s education and free health care. Secure Communities and policing law as 287(G) are further innovations to apprehend foreign nationals who have settled here. Death tolls are rising at the hands of illegal immigrants, as many arrive here with mayhem in mind. Dragged from the sewers of foreign ghettos, they come to pilfer the people’s wealth, either by legal means or through criminal activity. Removing illegal immigrants from this nation will go a long way to reducing Federal, State and County deficits.
In SAN GABRIEL, Calif. last week authorities have closed three effluent townhouses that were operating as a maternity homes for Chinese mothers paying thousands of dollars in fees to give birth in the America so the children would automatically gain citizenship. Police and city health inspectors found seven newborns and two mothers when they closed the homes for building code violations.The women stayed at the property before and after giving birth at local hospitals, a spokesman said. U.S. law automatically entitles children born on U.S. soil to citizenship, and it is NOT illegal for expectant women to visit the U.S. to give birth? This has become a multi-million dollar ponzi scheme, brought to us by Liberal interpreted- from- the-bench Liberal judges. Iowa Republican Rep. Steve King sponsored a bill that would limit automatic citizenship to people with at least one parent who is a citizen, a legal permanent resident or served in the military. The organization called NumbersUSA, shows information, H.R. 140 on there million member website, that the amendment to the 14th Amendment and now has 71 Sponsors to halt this financial loss. Taxpayers are force by unfunded mandatory law, to pay $6.000 to 8.000 dollars per delivery or more according to hospital fees. Call your Senator or Congressman at and demand they become a sponsor for H.R. 140, to aid in saving your country from insolvency YOU WILL LOCATE YOUR FEDERAL, STATE POLITICIANS IN THE BLUE PAGES OF YOUR PHONE DIRECTORY.
In Europe regular police departments are not restricted, by Liberal prohibitions with such ill-conceived agenda’s as “Political Correctness” having every right to check an individual’s immigration status, whether they are driving or a pedestrian. In Germany, France of even Britain you had better have your passport on your person or other government ID, when it’s requested by the authorities today.
Those of us who are tired of the money influences and power of corporate and business entities, the church, special interest groups, and radical groups, should become a member of the rising sway of the TEA PARTY. I personally have had it, with my taxes being taken to pay for foreign invaders support. Many of who are only interested in taking our money, refuse to learn the language or assimilate, dissimilar to the early immigrants passing through Ellis Island. They came here with nothing and didn’t take advantage of taxpayers as back then their was no education, health care or anything else for new arrivals. Just prison! Tea Party is apposed to any form of Amnesty, which includes so-called Comprehensive Immigration Reform, Rescind the birthright citizenship law, except where one parent is a citizen, Any form of Dream Act or Sanctuary City policies (STEALTH AMNESTIES), until the border fence is sealed tight and controlled by at least 5.000 military presence. America will always be susceptible talented workers of the highest spectrum, but not the beleaguered uneducated and hoping to reach this country, to take advantage of its gainful welfare programs.
Reme2401
March 24th, 2011
7:47 pm
Erica, I think you need to go back to elementary school. The founding fathers (1787 of them) were all born in the U.S. except for 9. The people you spoke of fled their countries of origin about 300 years before the founding fathers signed our nation’s laws.
Reme2401
March 24th, 2011
8:08 pm
@Georgia born Latino…even if someone has done everything on your list everyday and twice on Sunday, if they get caught, they are persecuted according to the law. So are you saying that illegals should also be punished if caught just like all the other offenses…so that everyone should be treated fairly?
doesnt-matter
March 24th, 2011
8:09 pm
Well I think we should stop blaming illegal immigrants for our job woes. They’ve always been here and they will be here for quite some time. Untill recently we notice they have a lot of jobs why is that? If you idiots realized your own goverment is outsourcing your jobs and closing down shop here in the us you’ll learn the truth. Your gov is responsible for all this the fed created the bubble that took our homes that robbed is in plain sight and no1 has gone to jail. They started a war for no damn reason and only an idiot believes the dribble that came out of that retarded bush. They gave corporations a stimulus package from YOUR money you idiots why are you fighting the workers when we all know half of you wouldn be cought dead laying brick or cleaning rr if you would do that maybe businesses wouldn have to hire hard working illegals. But no you b**** and moan about illegals robbbig your jobs because you don’t have the balls to stand up to big brother. You all say the same shit we have laws we have laws bla bla bla bla is that why bush broke so many? Why the banks robbed you of your homes and your jobs while giving money to your senators to make more laws to cut there taxes and reduce tariffs?! Your weak sorry excuses for ppl and if you really cared about this beautiful country you’d stand up and defend it. Bunch of tea baggers
long time educator
March 24th, 2011
9:40 pm
@Georgia born Latino
Why should so many Latinos be allowed to break in line in front of all the other potential immigrants who took their places in line abiding by the rules? Even if you say it is only a civil offense; where is your sense of fairness? It seems that you and La Raza feel Latino immigrants are more deserving than people from other desperate situations. Where is your sense of fairness?
Cobb Woman of Color
March 24th, 2011
11:42 pm
@Georgia Born Latino,
They have a choice to leave and go back to their country of origin if they don’t like being detained for being in the country illegally.
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. wanted equality for all. However, those who are illegal should learn from him. He worked to make things better in his “own” country. If those here illegally put the same fervor into initiating change in their own countries, we wouldn’t have this problem.
NoWay
March 25th, 2011
6:35 am
This family was given the option for the girl to stay. He parents who are here ILLEGALLY did not want to come and get her and risk getting deported themsevles. They INSTEAD, had her sent back to Guatamala with her grandparent.
I wish everyone would stop feeling sorry for the kid. Her own parents did this to her NOT our government.
Cobb Woman of Color
March 25th, 2011
6:56 am
Black Civil Rights activist attacked by Latino Group
http://www.groundreport.com/Business/Black-civil-rights-activist-threatened-by-Latino-g_1/2937283
Missy
March 25th, 2011
12:18 pm
This is so totally ridiclous. Yes they should have come here legally but that’s not the reality. These people are here and our government needs to stand up and resolve the issue. Do what your so called President Regan did; allow them all to stay. Families should be kept together. How would any of you feel if you were forced to seperate from your family. Why is it when people of color are involved it is ok to treat them less than human. What sickens me is some of you all really feel you have the right to mistreat others because of race and/or class. Some want to make these unjust and unfair rules forgetting this is not your country anyway. Europeans that were kicked out of thier countries came to America, slaughtered the Native Americans and Mexicans and took the land. Next African Americans were brutally taken from their land and enslaved to build this country. Families were seperated, babies stripped from their mothers and some have the nerve to at like this is all theirs (it’s not). The madness should stop before things spiral this country into another civil war. We all know what happen the last time. Don’t forget the face of this nation has changed and people of color are dominant. And for the so called Christians that think this type of behavior is ok – I understand why so many of us lost. This is why people all over the wolrd despise us. If the tables are turned and you have to flee this country to (Mexico, Canada etc.) what would you do if they refused to let you in. Would you sneak in and begin a life or would you stay here and die? BE HONEST!!!!! Say what ever you want in response to this because it doesn’t matter, reality hits hard and the truth hurts. Remember – if it were you and your babies then what????????
Itsel Lira
March 25th, 2011
12:21 pm
To everyone who has commented negatively especially @I. Lesing :
How dare you,
im only sixteen years old and im not as ignorant as you.
How dare you,
how can you sit there and take the time out to write such stupidity,
How dare you
try to say that people seeking a better life should be punished
How dare you,
compare illegal immigrants to murders, robbers, drug dealers and terroist.
how dare you
be such a bafoon
I undersatand that some us actually have our eyes open to the inedible things in life such as racism and some of us dont, but that doesnt give you or anybody else the right to preplace a sign on the faces of illegal immigrants as criminals.
Im guessing that in your life they never taught about racism, prejudgement, and poitning out differences and how all thoose things are WRONG.
Your not the first or only person to be ignorant ont he subject but you are one of the few posting your unintelligent comments on the internet so that you can deceptively give information to OUR generation and they can read your nonsence.
Wondering why i support illegal immigrants?
Yeah you might have guessed it, i know over a million illegal immigrants that have done nothing to this country but work their ass (excuse my language) off so that all they have to do is provide for their family. They dont go around like the LEGAL citizens in this contry asking for government funds such as food stamps and welfare. They work for every bit of what they have, and if the problem is that your so mad about how theyre taking up all the jobs your WRONG.
Not only do illegal immigrants boost the econmy sometimes not reporting the tax refunds they should be getting but i strongly doubt that you would find any normal LEGAL citizen willing to work for underpaying salaries and overworking jobs.
In my 16 years of living ive seen it all ,
ive seen people being and expierenced rape
ive seen murders , abusers , rapists , drug dealers , and a terroist attack .
ive seen CRIMINALS.
and maybe your an idoit but illegal immigrants are criminals theyre just normal people like you and me, hopefully, just trying to make a better way for their generations to come.
People swear up and down how racist people can be when the Europens brought the Africans to America to work as slaves and that Dr.Martin Luther King JR. was the best thing that could have happened to us but what you guys dont realize is that he didnt just want equality for African-Americans but for anybody who was being discriminated against by the color of their skin.
I have also spoke to many employeers who say they rather have a hard working flexible illegal working for them than a dumbass legal citizen that has a degree and doesnt know what theyre doing and complain every two days about a schedule.
I remeber in Tara Elementary School, my kindergarden teacher, Ms.Jackson, said to me “Monkey see monkey do” she paused and finished “when you SEE that the first monkey fails you DO the opposite”.
So you see how atrocious Arizona’s economy is, you want to be like that as well?
GOOD LUCK ,
Name: Itsel Lira
Ethnicity/Race : Shouldnt Matter .
Missy
March 25th, 2011
12:38 pm
Black Civil Rights activist attacked by Latino Group. The plan is to keep us divided because united we will be too stong to control. If we allow ourselves to be deceived about who’s the real enemy we will be on the losing end. Come on people wake up and see the truth for what it is. We are not each others enemy. We are actually connected by our blood lines. Both ethnic groups were enslaved during the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade. Different groups of people were deposited all over the world including South America and Haiti. We need to learn our real history. Knowledge is power.
Missy
March 25th, 2011
12:38 pm
Black Civil Rights activist attacked by Latino Group. The plan is to keep us divided because united we will be too stong to control. If we allow ourselves to be deceived about who’s the real enemy we will be on the losing end. Come on people wake up and see the truth for what it is. We are not each others enemy. We are actually connected by our blood lines. Both ethnic groups were enslaved during the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade. Different groups of people were deposited all over the world including South America and Haiti. We need to learn our real history. Knowledge is power.
Missy
March 25th, 2011
1:34 pm
JJ this is to your comment yesterday. The crimes you listed below have been committed by people in all ethnic groups. First of all I would like to see how the government is going to round up all the illegals and put them out. It is impossible. Remeber everyone is not a criminal because they are black or brown. We have been conditioned to think this way. Those that think they are so smart will see just how much they need the very people they hate. Take a look at Arizona. The government crippled themselves financially trying to terriorize the hispnic population for a few bad individuals. Criminals should be in jail starting with memebers of the US and State Congress and Senate- these crooks have cost us more money than all the illegals put together. Illegals do pay taxes, they shop, they drive and buy gas, they use public transoprtation, they go to Six Flags, they pay rent/mortgage they support our school systems spending their money all over the US. All these things generate revenue for the state. I do know that there are more poor whites that depend on government assistance than any other ethnic group and it has always been that way since the welfare system was created (do your homework) Just say all the illegals were taken out of your county, the county would suffer a great financial blow loosing all sorts of revenue generating activity. Sometimes we can outsmart ourselves and end up looking like fools. I wonder if Arizona has deported all their illegals and now living happliy ever after???
March 24th, 2011
9:47 am
@Lori – go to gwinnettmugs.com – and see how many illegals are being “Held for immigration”.
These illegals are crowding our jails and costing us taxpayer money, yours and mine. They are tying up our judical system. They have brought drugs, crime and gangs to our area. They are major trafficers of heroin, cocaine. They are setting up “grow houses” and meth labs in some of the finer neighborhoods, your and mine. They are killing each other, and anyone who happens to get in their way. Innocent children are the victims, innocent elderly are the victims. They carjack, they kill and don’t think twice about their actions. How would you feel if something like this happened to one of your loved ones? I’d think twice about your earlier statement…..
Cobb Woman of Color
March 25th, 2011
2:45 pm
Rep. Miller introduces the LEAVE Act
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/march-24-2011/rep-miller-introduces-leave-act.html
counterpoint
March 25th, 2011
3:03 pm
“The crimes you listed below have been committed by people in all ethnic groups”
Missy, did you even bother to go to gwinnettmugs.com, or did you just want to ramble on ill-informed with info that the vast majority of posters will not read?
You are entitled to your opionion, however you are not looking into the facts about how illegal immigration has negatively impacted our country. The facts and statistics are out there and that is why more and more American citizens are turning against illegal immigration.
There were many people just like you speaking up just a few years ago. But citizens educated themselves on the ugly facts and have now decided that illegal aliens have to go. It is not easy for many to have made this decesion, but the overwhelming support is on the side of the citizens and taxpayers of this country.
counterpoint
March 25th, 2011
3:06 pm
@ Cobb Woman of Color
Thanks for that link!