Would you like a ’safe list’ at your school?

A mom told me an interesting idea the other day. She said by the time her kids got into middle school she wanted to develop and publish a “safe list”  for the grade. The ‘safe list’ would include parents who signed an agreement not to A. have a gun in the house and B. that they wouldn’t sever alcohol to minors.

It is so hard to know – especially in middle and high school when new kids come into the school – whose families you can trust. But would you trust the list? Maybe parents would feel peer pressured to say “yes” even if they didn’t really mean it.

We had some reader questions about drinking and minors that I thought I would include with this topic (I think we hit this a few years ago when that Gwinnett mom got busted for serving to minors but can’t hurt to discuss since it’s been a few years):

“Would you serve alcohol to a minor. If said minor is your child………or if said minor was having a high school graduation party at your home????? Would you provide alcohol to underaged college students? What would you do if your minor child was drinking?”

So I want to know: Have you ever heard of a “safe list?” Would you want one for your school? Would it really help determine which families were trustworthy? What other things would you want them to agree to – such as not to leave teens in the house unattended?

If parents at your school asked you to sign a “safe list” agreement would you?

Our regular wants to know: Would you serve alcohol to minors – high school or college? How do you handle if your minor is drinking?

– Theresa Walsh Giarrusso, AJC Momania

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motherjanegoose

March 22nd, 2011
7:37 am

As far as I know having a gun in the house is not illegal..we do not own one but they were in my house growing up. I know very responsible people who own guns. Not everyone is responsible…we all know that to be true.

Serving alcohol to minors is illegal. I would not do it. I may be the only one here who feels this way. Father in law gave sips of beer to a nephew at two…I shudder.

Should you ban matches too? Kids could set the house on fire and get caught in it and die or burn your body badly.

When our son went to HS, we mentioned to some parents we knew at our church,
“let’s try to keep an eye out for our kids and stay closely in touch..”

“Oh, we know our kids and do not need to worry about this.” Guess what…they really did.

@ Jeff…are you razzing me at the end of yesterday’s blog?

mom2alex&max

March 22nd, 2011
7:39 am

I’m not as anal about alcohol to minors as some people, except of course for the legal consequences. So I probably will never offer alcohol to any minors in my home.

However, the gun thing TERRIFIES me. I would love a list from school of people that keep a gun free home. I have this almost irrational fear of it. I have heard all the “gun safety” lectures from supporters of the 2nd amendment, but nothing could convince me that 2 (or more) impulsive teens or tweens gathered in a house with a gun in it wouldn’t do something stupid.

When my sons get invited to sleep overs at homes of people I don’t know very well, I am always tempted to ask if they keep guns; but I don’t… I really should though.

Alecia

March 22nd, 2011
7:52 am

guns-hmmm… While we are at it, let’s add rubbing alcohol, matches, gasoline, aerosol cans, fertilizer, prescription meds., anything slippery, trampolines, swing sets, swimming pools, and of course all knives. Let’s also leave a list at our public school, so that all of the interesting characters out there know which homes are unarmed and easily broken into. I would be more scared of the house with the mom on antidepressants and tons of kitchen knives.
I would try to “sever” any ties to anyone serving alcohol to minors, and try not to serve it. Why would anyone put on a list that they would do something illegal is beyond me.

Photius

March 22nd, 2011
8:15 am

See my “Safe List” would be much different than an over occupied suburban Mommy. My safe list would be unless you are well informed on newsworthy issues you should never vote or speak with anyone about politics…. If you can tell me more about American Idol or Dancing with the Stars than you can about our current involvement in Afghanistan, I don’t want you around my kids for you are a self-absorbed ignorant American…. If you still wear a “Perm” in your hair I don’t want you around my kids for you are stuck in the 1980’s time warp… If your husband/second husband/live in boyfriend is a “steak head” and knows everything about sports but can’t point to Libya on a globe than I don’t want my child around you…. If your over zealous born again religion compels you to inject your religious beliefs into the school science room than I really don’t want you around my kids… if in your house your bookshelves are full of DVD’s and movies without a book in sight than stay away from my kids for intellectually your mind has shut down a long time ago…. and finally, if you seriously would vote for Sarah Palin for President than stay away from my kid! That’s my “Safe List”.

fred

March 22nd, 2011
8:20 am

This may be one of the dumbest ideas that I have ever heard of. Even if I sign the list, you have no way of knowing what I have in my house or what I will do in my house. The list is useless. Its only use would be to identify all of the Chicken Little’s in the neighborhood. Parents it is your responsibility to find out where your child is and what they are doing. It is your right to get to know the parents of their freinds or anywhere that they are staying and if you fail to do so and there is trouble in the house then that is also your responsibility. No list is going to stop this

motherjanegoose

March 22nd, 2011
8:22 am

@ Photius….perm..hahaha! In college, my Mom ( notorius …sp?… for perming her hair) gave me a perm. I looked like Miss Frizzle on the Magic School Bus. Last perm I had. Not sure I am well versed in current events but I do have more books than most folks I know. Yesterday.. nearly $800 on file for trade in value at Books for Less MOG. This is what I have traded back in and does not count the shelves full we have here :0.

Techmom

March 22nd, 2011
8:25 am

I think a safe list is a ridiculous idea.

More kids die in car accidents each year than those that are accidentally shot. I just think people have irrational fears due to media sensationalism. In fact, I don’t have the statistics off hand but I think more children die in swimming pools than due to guns.

As for the serving alcohol to minors- I wouldn’t serve to a minor other than my own. I certainly would never offer it at a graduation party, regardless of the amount of supervision because not all of those kids are mine. Personally I have no problem with parents allowing their grown children (i.e. 18-20 years old) to drink at home and under their supervision. Why? Because for one, I think that if you’re old enough to be an adult & die for our country, then you should be allowed to drink a beer, secondly, if you can introduce alcohol as something that can be had within reason and with responsibility, I think those young adults are more likely to learn from it rather than try to sneak it and binge on it when they get the opportunity. That being said, it is illegal and I wouldn’t flaunt the situation and ask for trouble.

Techmom

March 22nd, 2011
8:27 am

@TWG – my comment got lost :(

Lori

March 22nd, 2011
8:39 am

This idea would never work. I wouldn’t trust a list. And really, it’s not anyone’s business at the school whether or not I legally own a gun. I don’t, but my parents had them growing up. They were always locked in a cabinet and unloaded. My Dad never showed us where he kept the key. I would never trust a list to tell me if another parent owns a gun and where they keep it in their house. My inlaws have one. I know they keep it out and loaded (because they are paranoid about the neighbors). When I visit their house with my son, or my son spends the night, when I drop him off, I physically watch them unload the gun and place it in a locked closet that my son cannot access. That is the only way to be sure he can’t get it. I also teach him to NEVER touch a gun, no matter what, if he finds one in someones house. He is instructed to find an adult immediately.

My son isn’t old enough to worry about the drinking issue as much, but no way I’d ever provide alcohol to minors. I don’t really want to go to jail!!

YUKI

March 22nd, 2011
8:54 am

I agree with Fred. How stupid. As if a “safe list” really means anything. You just have to know your kid’s friends and be familiar with their parents and surroundings. Just try and teach your child right and wrong and hope they make the right decisions in life. Of course I would not send my child willingly to someone’s house if I knew they were serving alcohol to minors, but I don’t think just because they signed something saying they won’t means they won’t. I drank as a teenager, but no one’s parents provided it for us, we found other ways. As far as the gun issue goes, we have a gun in our home but it’s in a locked safe and stays there. I would not be afraid to ask the question to any parent if my son was spending time at their home. I’d rather just ask outright then trust some “safe list”.

Me

March 22nd, 2011
8:54 am

Parents are either responsible or they are not. Those parents who fall within the “responsible” realm can have all the guns they wish. I trust their responsible nature to properly store the weapons and ammunition and I trust them not to serve alcohol to minors — these two things among many others. However, I also don’t worry over those parents falling under the “irresponsible” moniker as my child won’t be around them. We very well know the parents of the children with whom our kids interact. They have not, nor ever will, be at the house of parents we don’t know.

JJ

March 22nd, 2011
9:00 am

I don’t think it’s anyone’s business at the schools, whether I own a gun or not. I can see it now on the PTA form…..Question #1 – Is there a gun in your home? That’s asking a bit too much. It’s none of their business.

jarvis

March 22nd, 2011
9:05 am

Children are 90 times more likely to be killed by in-home swimming pools than by handguns.

Becky

March 22nd, 2011
9:06 am

I wouldn’t trust a piece of paper either..Like mom2alex&max, I’m nt as anal about alcohol and minors..I drank when I was 17 and never hid it from my Mom..Becasue she never told me that I couldn’t drink, it made me not want to drink as much and by the time that I was legal, I pretty much quit drinking..

Not that I would encourage kids to drink, but I think that if they want to drink, they will and if you let them try it, they might not want to keep drinking..

@MJG..My Mom put a tiny bit of beer on her finger and let my neice taste it when she was 2 or 3..My BIL went balistic and threatened to hit my Mother..After my cousin was through with him, he never tried that again..She’s 40 now, doesn’t drinka nd never has..That one time with beer was her last time..

Guns? We have them in our house & my husband is teaching them boy how to shoot it and how to handle it..The girl has no desire to learn anything about it..If they are taught how to deal with them, then I don’t have a problem with them being in the house..

@Photius..Haha..The girl will say something or start talking about something and I’ll ask her where did she learn that..She’ll look at me and say, you don’t read much do you? My house if full of books..

jarvis

March 22nd, 2011
9:07 am

Photius, you’re missing one.

“If you don’t know the difference between then and than, I don’t want my kid in your house.”

motherjanegoose

March 22nd, 2011
9:13 am

@ becky…haha on the girl. Love it when my kids tell me obscure things. It shows they are listening and learning. Could teach me a thing or two!

Her comment to you is kinda like folks telling me that I need to get out more…

JJ, you had asked about alcohol, as I recall. What is your take? Still keeping my eyes open for summer jobs…I will let you know. Did she check Craigslist?

TallMom

March 22nd, 2011
9:19 am

We’ve taught our kids about gun safety. If you’re at someone’s house and they offer to show you a real gun, say no and go find an adult. If they show you a real gun, touch it, etc…get away and go find an adult. Just having a gun in the house doesn’t mean it’s dangerous. It’s whether or not those parents have taught their children how to be safe. period.

As far as drinking… I would like to think most parents aren’t idiots…if they want to serve their own kids alcohol…go ahead, your kid, your rules. But to serve other people’s kids? How dumb do you have to be?

I make it a point to get to know my kids’ friends and their families. If I suspect someone isn’t a good influence, then I discourage the friendship. I don’t outright forbid it, I just try to keep the friendship on an “at school only” level.

I also have an open dialogue with my kids about most “taboo” subjects (sex, drugs, rock n roll..wait..er, I mean alcohol and morals in general). Sometimes taking away the “mystery” of something makes it less enticing. Knowledge is power. Don’t let your kids’ friends be the ones to educate them about these things…you probably won’t like what they learn!

catlady

March 22nd, 2011
9:21 am

Nah. I don’t think you can count on many parents to tell the truth, so the best “safety” you have is to teach your child what to do if they see something amiss. Call home, use a special word, and I come get you immediately: guns, alcohol, dope, sex, bad movies–no questions.

My kids only used it once (that doesn’t mean they only needed to once). My daughter was at a party and alcohol was brought out. She called me, I got there in 10 minutes. Date over. End of story. Of course, you have to have a child who will follow through, have the self-confidence to get out of there.

DB

March 22nd, 2011
9:25 am

Nope, I wouldn’t sign it and I probably wouldn’t pay attention to any list that was pulled together. Guns don’t bother me — both of my children were taught gun safety and how to shoot by the age of 12, and they have a hearty respect for what a gun can do. It’s STUPID kids around guns that scare me. The ones that know how to handle guns have respect for what they can do. It’s the ones whose only experience with a gun is by watching TV are the ones who are the problem. That said, we don’t have a gun in the house, and my parents keep their gun under lock and key at home and the key is in a safe.

And as far as alcohol goes — no, I absolutely will not serve another child alcohol in my home, especially not for high school graduation. I have served my own children wine with dinner, if they ask — usually they don’t. Now that they are in college, I am aware that they drink alcohol (one is over 21). We have talked about driving under the influence, and its effect on your legal record for the rest of your life, we talk about safety (especially to the girl – keeping custody of her drink, never putting a drink down, and always watching to see her own drink poured) and we talk about making smart decisions. But basically, once they are on their own, they own their own decisions.

catlady

March 22nd, 2011
9:37 am

Photius– Gee, I have a perm (more like the 50s time warp, though)! LOL to the rest. I have a few others I would add to your list.

catlady

March 22nd, 2011
9:38 am

Oh,and no serving alcohol to minors….or majors!

penguinmom

March 22nd, 2011
9:48 am

@jarvis – sadly so true.

I think the main thing is to know your child’s friends and make a big effort to know the parents. I know all of the parents of my kids’ friends and know which I feel most comfortable with them visiting.

I wouldn’t serve alcohol to minors because it is illegal. It would be one thing to give your own child a small taste occasionally in your own home. I consider that a personal family decision. It is completely different to serve alcohol to other people’s children. Mad doesn’t even begin to describe how I would feel if I found out an adult gave alcohol to my teen.

Not really as worried about guns. My kids have been told that guns are dangerous and what to do if they run into a situation where a friend finds one. I think you have to gun-proof your own child because you really never know who has one and who doesn’t.

Stacey

March 22nd, 2011
9:48 am

As some one else pointed out, I don’t mind telling people on an anonymous blog that I don’t own a gun but wouldn’t announce it to the whole school district. Heck, I have neighbors on my street who I want to believe that only reason their kids are safe from the arsenal in my home is because my attack dogs roam free to guard it.

Regarding alcohol and minors, neither my husband nor I drink so we don’t serve alcohol to adults either. I come from a family of drinkers and have seen (more than once) the teens pick up their parent’s beer and take a swig. I also could have done it when I was a teen. Although I know it’s illegal and I disapprove, I will not report you to the police for serving a beer or glass of wine to your teen.

srh

March 22nd, 2011
9:52 am

Theresa, I have read where some readers have noted the lack of interest on some topics – Taylor Swift dating’s life, for example.

I am surprised you haven’t posted about the over-indulgent parents who spent so much money to have their kid featured in a “music’ video that now has over 33 million hits. I see that and I think it is the ultimate example of how spoil their kids, and it just seems wrong. I can see a host of other parents following suit to make their little darling the next big thing.

Mattie

March 22nd, 2011
10:14 am

I dislike guns, and don’t have any in the house, but I see no reason to advertise the fact. If anybody wants to break into my home, let them take their chances. I have been asked by other parents, and I have also asked if guns were around before agreeing to playdates.

The alcohol list is a no-brainer. It’s illegal, and my kids know how I feel about underage drinking. At their ages the onus is on them to avoid it.

The mother of one of my son’s best friends headed up the red ribbon campaign at our high school, where kids were asked to sign pledges that they wouldn’t drink until they were of age. Her son has been drinking for years. The parents may not serve it, but they are clueless anyway.

Young@heart

March 22nd, 2011
10:14 am

A list Really?….What ever happened to getting to know the people your kids are around? I will Never Ever serve to Minors in my home, and Heaven help anyone who would serve to mine…This is an issue near and dear to my heart. Carroll & Douglas Counties have had 2 separate terrible incidents this year already involving Serving to Minors at a Bon Fire-1 beautiful earth Angel was killed when she got into a car with a teen drinking <supplied by adults….and the other at another Bon Fire they were "just messin around" with guns when a boys pointed the gun at someone and pulled the trigger…
Call me a helicopter mom if you want but I KNOW who, what, when, where and why when my kids go…they know I WILL check on them.

Warrior Woman

March 22nd, 2011
10:21 am

Knowing which parents wanted a list like this would tell me which parents are overprotective helicopters, but not much else. If parents are afraid of the guns in my home, they are foolish. On the alcohol question, I will give my children a sip of wine to toast with the family on special occasions, but would not ever consider giving alcohol to someone else’s child.

Cammi317

March 22nd, 2011
10:23 am

I don’t drink nor do I know how to operate a weapon, so I have no alcohol or guns in my home. That being said, this “safe list” is by far one of the dumbest thing I have ever heard. First of all, my daughter is only allowed in the homes of people that I know and trust, regardless of whether they drink or have weapons, so I do not need anyone’s “list”. I say again…dumbest thing I have ever heard.

jarvis

March 22nd, 2011
10:24 am

Red Ribbon…Abstinence Pledges….bleh! All mush.
How much information is going with these pledges?

Asking a kid to pledge something long term is absurd. They can’t think past today much less five years down the line. Educate them, and help them make good decisions every day.

JOD

March 22nd, 2011
10:34 am

@TallMom – 100% agree! Nothin’ like commen sense.

I grew up with guns in the house, and it would never have occurred to me to ‘play’ with them – I was taught how to handle and shoot. We’ll teach DD to handle, and if she wants to learn to shoot, we’ll teach her. A friend pulls out a gun at his/her house – better find an adult and call me ASAP.

So the list would call cops’ houses unsafe? Seems pretty stupid to me.

If a teenager wants an occasional beer or glass of wine at home, I think that’s okay. As others said, why over-stigmatize something so they want to do it eve more? As for making this choice for other kids – that’s asking for trouble.

JOD

March 22nd, 2011
10:35 am

Argh! Common. Photius – I might not make your Safe List :o)

jarvis

March 22nd, 2011
10:44 am

@JOD, some of the worst people I’ve ever known have been cops.

JJ

March 22nd, 2011
10:44 am

I have served my minor child alcohol, but never someone else’s child.

I have bought wine coolers for her birthday, at age 18. She has champagne with me on NYE, and she once had a shot of tequilla at a NYE party that we were both at.

One very hot afternoon, I had fixed myself a Vodka and sprite. She was outside playing, and came in, saw what she thought was just sprite, and tossed it back…….the look on her face was PRICELESS. She spit half of it back out, and asked what was in that drink? I told her never to assume………

Denise

March 22nd, 2011
10:58 am

My situation as a minor was a little different. I was legal at age 18 (Louisiana, of course). So yes, I drank. My friends drank. We all drank! I had a friend whose mother would let us drink at her house BUT we had to spend the night and our keys were in her bedroom in case we thought we wanted to try and sneak out and go home. We never got drunk – the weakest daiquiris in the world but we didn’t know any better back then – but one sip meant spending the night. I barely drink now mainly because I never developed a tolerance (and also because I am on medication) so I’m still a light weight. I don’t know if our parents KNEW we had drinks over there but I am guessing they did since they knew we – guys and girls (no one was dating ) – were spending the night. Come to think of it, now that I’m writing this, we had a lot of freedom over there! Definitely more than I had at MY house. Go ahead and crucify her. I know you want to…

Techmom

March 22nd, 2011
11:14 am

@JJ I always used to just walk up and just drink whatever happened to be sitting there. My dad used to get so mad at me for doing that so one day he decided to put a lot more brandy in his drink than coke… I run into the house and walk up and take a huge gulp thinking it’s a coke. SPEW! It was the last time I walked up and took a drink out of someone else’s glass.

I have no issues allowing MY 18-20 year drink at home. I won’t give it to anyone else’s child and certainly would never provide it in a party setting. I think some parents think alcohol is so taboo that their kids end up sneaking around and trying it and getting themselves into trouble with it. If my son is going to drink before he’s legally allowed to, I’d rather him do it at home where we can supervise and ensure he doesn’t go overboard or drive. My parents did the same thing with me and I feel like it worked fine (my dad was military so his theory is that if you’re old enough to die for your country, you’re old enough for a beer).

Jeff

March 22nd, 2011
11:35 am

I used to own a gun because I was taking night classes @ GSU and had to walk through the dark parking deck @ 10pm. I don’t have an issue with a gun in the house as long as everyone knows how to use it. I taught my wife how to shoot and told her that if anyone ever came in the house, to empty the entire gun. But I also told her that you dno’t point a gun at anyone unless you intend to kill them.

BlondeHoney

March 22nd, 2011
11:42 am

I vote for Photius’s list :) And no, have never served booze to minors that were not my own kids; as far as my boys themselves are concerned, once they were 18-19ish and beyond i didn’t have any problem with either of them having a drink even though they were technically still “minors”. I was legal at 18 for pete’s sake, and they drink responsibly, both of them. I agree with the posters who said no big deal to let your teenagers have a sip now & then; it whets their appetite for booze in the long run.

Young@heart

March 22nd, 2011
11:46 am

Thats what Grandpa thought when he bought the liquor for his Grandson…they would all just nicely stay there and no one would leave….then the friends left to another party, then another…then someone was killed.
By Breaking the law with/for your child/teen you are teaching its ok to ignore the Laws that you don’t like.

Kat

March 22nd, 2011
12:09 pm

Didn’t we just have this topic the other day? Breaking and/or bending the rules in front of your kid?

JOD

March 22nd, 2011
12:13 pm

@jarvis – And some of the worst people people I’ve ever known have been women. Oh wait, about 50% of them. Generalize much?

Kat

March 22nd, 2011
12:20 pm

Funny – the AJC is running this article today regarding Archie comics and MADD: http://www.ajc.com/sports/at-archies-high-school-880880.html?cxntlid=thbz_hm

Young@heart

March 22nd, 2011
12:25 pm

This could cover the breaking the rules topic and Are you still supporting your grown child topics….go ahead fry their brains before they even know it then complain when they won’t leave or you have to help them. And then wonder why the next generation is so careless, and entitled….

I grew up with Parents in the 70’s who thought it was funny to give me a 4 year old Apple Boones farm til I puked….blow “smoke” in my face and watch them use Nose candy. I will NEVER let my child go through that….I’m still not right.

Techmom

March 22nd, 2011
12:42 pm

Young@heart – I think you’ve gone from one extreme to another. As with all things in life and parenting, there has to be a balance. I’m not knocking you for not pushing your child the way your parents did; they obviously weren’t good parents.

As for “Grandpa”, his problem was giving it to his grandson AND his friends.

I don’t think my parents were horrible for letting me try alcohol in their presence before I turned 21. It was never pushed or encouraged but rather allowed under certain guidelines. Not once do I remember my parents getting wasted or pushing me to drink. It was simply available with me knowing that if I drank anything, they would rather it be at their house where they knew I was safe, rather than at some random party where I might be encouraged to drink more than appropriate. That’s not to say I didn’t later imbibe more than I should but I can tell you that I never got drunk until after I was 21.

tracey

March 22nd, 2011
12:43 pm

we had guns in the house growing up. i was more afraid of what my dad would have done, if i had messed with the gun. guns dont’ bother me. all they are are objects. they are only as dangerous as the fool holding them. reponsible gun owners are a different story. as long as the parents have educated their children, and put the fear of god into them, i have no problem with my son being around them.

JATL

March 22nd, 2011
1:00 pm

This idea is helicoptering idiocy at its finest. How about getting to know the parents of the kids your child hangs out with? If your kid is going to someone’s house to spend the night or for a party -talk to the parents beforehand and get a feel for them. IF you really need to know about guns and booze -ask them personally yourself.

karma

March 22nd, 2011
1:08 pm

photius is awesome!

Hands down the dumbest thing I have ever read.

AngryRedMarsWoman

March 22nd, 2011
1:09 pm

This goes back to the comment I made the other day about my son’s friends being dropped off in front of my house by their parents and being left for days at a time…as I noted, I usually have to make the effort to go out and introduce myself to them and I often wonder why they would just leave their child without meeting a parent.

My beloved is a cop and weekend warrior – um, we got guns. When no adult is in the house the closet with the guns is locked because I don’t trust my son’s one friend not to be a total moron. My son and his other friends know about the guns, have been shown the guns with adult supervision and don’t go near them (too busy shooting each other with airsoft rifles). We stole booze from my folks when I was a kid and my parents let me drink beer (not to excess) in the house after I turned 16 and got a job – I stopped drinking years ago. There is unattended alcohol in my home (for guests), but if the kids touch it they aren’t allowed back in my home and that would just about kill them. I have a pool and my son and his friends have known “forever” that they are not allowed in without an adult present…to my knowledge that rule has never been broken (they are boys, so the wet towels on the floor would give them away), even though the summers are darn hot around here and “it sucks to wait for mom to get home from work.” Guns, booze and a pool….honestly, the last one is the one that scares me the most even when I am home to supervise.

Young@heart

March 22nd, 2011
1:12 pm

@Techmom….Didn’t I state I’m still not right?….I will hold to MY extreme.

justmy2cents

March 22nd, 2011
2:41 pm

We own guns, our kids know it, and they know not to touch them. Biometric safe is the way to go! As for the list…pfft, people would lie. I won’t serve my kids alcohol, and I sure as heck wouldn’t set myself up for jail time or a lawsuit for serving somebody else’s child alcohol either. Yes, there are plenty of moron parents who do it though.

I always hear the argument about being old enough to die for our country= old enough to have a beer. That theory is great, IF the young adult is actually IN the military. I went in the service at 17, and yep, I drank in the barracks.

TinaTeach

March 22nd, 2011
3:03 pm

I’m sorry but having a list like that is not only stupid, but it’s an invasion of privacy. What if a student was to get a hold of the list. All of a sudden that kid knows where all the guns are. Firearms are one of the main things stolen in a house if a theif find it.

That being said, we do have guns in our house. I grew up with guns in my parents house (though I didn’t know about them till I was older,) and they were always hidden and locked away from the kids. When my in-laws moved in the gun collection got large enough that we invested in a locked gun cabinet. We keep a few out (and loaded) in case of a middle of the night break-in. They are well hidden (for now) so our 13 month old would never find them. When our son gets older we will teach him about gun safety, how to shoot, and how to safely unload a weapon.

If you don’t want your children going to someone’s house with a gun at it, politely ask them if they have one. If they do, offer to host the playdate at your house. It’s as simple as that.

As far as alcohol being served to minor; you are allowed to serve your own and no one else’s. Case closed. Follow the law.