Would you use child care in theaters? Would it make you see more movies?

Recently, Entertainment Weekly offered suggestions for how to improve the movie-going experience and one of their ideas was for theaters to offer babysitting.

(I just searched the bathroom to find the old EW and I can’t find the right magazine. And I can’t find the link online either. However, I am pretty sure this theater in Portland is the one EW wrote about.)

The Academy Theater in Portland offers babysitting in the theater for children ages six-months to eight years at a cost of $7.50 per child. You can to make a reservation and fill out their babysitting release form.

Another Western theater chain, Harkins, also offers babysitting in the theater. It is $6 per child for the length of the movie. They’ll take kids ages 3 to 8 in their playcenters. Reservations are not required but encouraged. Parents are given vibrating pagers to alert them if there is a problem.

I didn’t find any of the East Coast, but there may be some I missed. I have never seen it  in Atlanta at theaters. (Have you guys?)

For someone like me with three kids, I would get a better deal by hiring my own sitter as long as I was back in 3 hours but for a  particularly long movie then it might pan out economically to leave them at the theater. (Actually my oldest would be too old for either of these programs.)

While it seems convenient and you could just go without getting a sitter ahead of time I think I would feel guilty leaving the kids in the lobby while I enjoyed a movie. If I got them as far as the theater I think I would have to take them to a family film.

It reminds me a lot of stores that offer childcare – like IKEA, Macy’s (used to have it when it was Rich’s not sure if they still do) and some Kroger’s stores used to have it. I would have less guilt there because I am trying to to accomplish a task like buying the groceries. It’s going to go faster if I don’t have them with me.

Now maybe if they showed the kids a new release or recently released movie where they were doing something as fun? Maybe that would seem fun for them and not like you were just leaving them in the lobby. (Essentially you are paying the price of a kid’s ticket with the babysitting fee.)

What do you think? Would you leave your kids in care run by a theater (the system sounds a lot of like what churches use (with the beepers)? Would you feel mean taking them to the theater but not to a movie? Would that type of service encourage you to go to the theater more often? Would it work out to be cheaper than hiring a sitter at home?

– Theresa Walsh Giarrusso, AJC Momania

63 comments Add your comment

motherjanegoose

March 15th, 2011
3:29 am

Feel mean…no…

I am not much of a movie goer and certainly not much of one when my kids were small. Not all days ( to me) have to be fun for my kids when they are fun for me. There were often days, when my kids were having fun and I was not :0. I do not think they felt mean . Maybe this is only me.

This is another topic where I do not have a lot to recommend and I will see how it unfolds throughout the day. I will now bow out to those who have more experience here and later read their advice.
Y’all have fun!

Grandparent

March 15th, 2011
6:33 am

My goodness…..such an important topic. Juggling motherhood. You had them, now YOU figure out how to take care of them. These things didn’t exist when mine were young so I spent this “babysitting” time by not going out but by interacting with my kids. If I had to go to the grocery store then Dad got to take over. It is called parenting. You parents today need to get a clue and take care of your own.

mom2alex&max

March 15th, 2011
7:07 am

Grandparent: please get over yourself. Babysitters have existed for a VERY long time. This isn’t a new idea. Just a different twist.

I probably wouldn’t, anyways. Seems more convenient to leave the kids at home with a sitter. My kids are too old for this service anyways.

Ally

March 15th, 2011
7:12 am

For me, it sounds like a good deal, but I would not do this because I don’t feel comfortable with total strangers watching my kids. Until recently, I only hired teachers from their daycare who I knew and had already been background checked.

@Grandparent – You are incredibly bitter, and I don’t think this blog is for you. This is about life in the year 2011, not in the “olden days”. Of course we all take care of our kids and interact with them. It’s a fact that we interact with our kids more than our parents did with us (yes, that would be your generation). Maybe sometimes we do too much with our kids, but that’s another topic. Take it easy, Grandparent, and go back to your rocking chair. No one is asking you to take care of our kids, we are just exploring different ideas and talking about what’s available.

bad grandparent

March 15th, 2011
7:27 am

Grandparent, I feel sorry for your Grandkids. You are quite the bitter old man or old woman. Sheesh!!

shaggy

March 15th, 2011
7:30 am

Grandparent,

Your message about parenting is actually part right. There are way too many “all about me” wannabe parents. They just give their kids stuff, so they won’t bother them. Their kids often grow up to be selfish, entitled twits and many times, criminals. There are some that have the energy to put into parenting, while taking care of their own pursuits, but that takes discipline…not a whole lot of that going around anymore.

Looks like you hit a nerve. The “hit dogs” are hollering and insulting your age. There was a time when age was respected and wisdom gained from the elders. Now, they just want you to babysit, so they don’t have to.

Sam

March 15th, 2011
7:33 am

You really need to pay your babysitter more. Three kids for three hours is worth a lot more than $30, especially when they’re so young. I babysat for people who had three under four for a few hours and they gave me twenty dollars, it was really insulting.

catlady

March 15th, 2011
8:02 am

I would not put my kids in a group setting like that for any amount of money, due to the illnesses people seem to be willing to spread around with their kids.

I see this first-hand, being a teacher.

Photius

March 15th, 2011
8:12 am

Yawn…..

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Move to Arizona, follow hubby’s career, topics become not as interesting.

DINK (Dual Income, No Kids)

March 15th, 2011
8:19 am

Grandparent……You are AWESOME!

Preach on!

malleesmom

March 15th, 2011
8:21 am

No I would not use the service. We stopped going to the movies years ago when ticket prices got to high. By the time you pay for tickets and then a sitter, either on-site or in one’s home, it is outrageous. The reality is, there are few good, original, creative movies being made anymore. Many are just remakes of previous films or the same story line retold for the umpteenth time. There are exceptions of course, and for those I wait for the dvd release.

motherjanegoose

March 15th, 2011
8:34 am

Back on after 5 hours, to see what is up.

Grandparent…do not fret…someone is always being attacked here…usually me. I DO think this blog is for you, as you would have outcome based ideas vs, new fads. I am old enough to be a grandparent but am not yet. Welcome. This one makes sense to me: “by interacting with my kids”. Anyone else?

Photius…did you recommend any topics…I have not this week…guess we can take it or leave it?

catlady…my thoughts too…often, these types of venues are not staffed with with highly trained folks. You get what you pay for…cheap babysitters may not always be the best.

DINK thanks for the laugh. We do not patronize KIDS EAT FREE restaurants on that special night.
I have kids, I love kids, I am off to work with kids in a bit, but I do not want to spend $$ to eat out and sit next to kids who are having a free for all. The parents are too tired to cook and/or discipline their kids. Guess that makes me bitter…not towards the kids but the parents. So be it.

motherjanegoose

March 15th, 2011
8:36 am

Actually, Photius…your topics would perhaps be GREAT ones as they have the potential to stir things up …HELP us out!

Lori

March 15th, 2011
8:51 am

No way I’d leave my kids with the random teenagers they’d probably hire to do the babysitting at the theater. They kids they have working at my theater can barely run the cash register for the popcorn!! I have a rule as far as sitters go…if you don’t LOVE my child, then you don’t WATCH my child!! I leave mine with family and very close friends. I just don’t trust strangers with my most precious possessions.

Betty

March 15th, 2011
9:07 am

I think it’s a great idea. We don’t have regular sitters because we don’t have a need very often and can usually coordinate with family members when we have important things coming up. Unless you have someone regular to call on, it can be difficult to find a babysitter when you would like an occasional night out on the spur of the moment.

I would never be comfortable leaving a 3 year old in a group setting like this cared for by people I don’t know but I would use it for a 7 or 8 year old for a couple of hours.

JJ

March 15th, 2011
9:23 am

No. When my child was growing up, we went to movies she was able to watch and were kid centered. When I did want to go out without my child, she was usually with her grandma. I had a few babysitters when she got a little older, but Grandma loved having her grandchildren around….

shaggy

March 15th, 2011
9:48 am

Topics pulled from a 15 second search of parent.net:

1.) Learning To Adjust In a Blended Family with Step Parents
2.) At what age should you feel safe in knowing that you may leave your child at home alone?
3.) How to Nip You Child Arguing and Back Talking In the Bud
4.) My Child Won’t Stop Swearing!
5.) Excuse Me for Interrupting: Teaching & Improving Children Basic Manners

That was really hard.

mom2alex&max

March 15th, 2011
10:05 am

shaggy: we have covered all of those in previous blogs. Theresa has been around for 5 years; there’s not a whole lot we haven’t covered.

JOD

March 15th, 2011
10:07 am

No way! This sounds like the TSA of babysitting – who knows who would be watching your child? I agree with Ally, Lori, and catlady.

I would rather watch on demand at home anyway while DD is napping or sleeping – it’s cheaper and if she is up, we just pause the movie and finish it later.

@shaggy – Nice! I really like 2 and 3.

motherjanegoose

March 15th, 2011
10:12 am

shaggy…I like #5 and even checked it out!

I have been on this blog for at least 5 years and must have missed the days we covered a few of those topics. Sometimes, it could be good to rehash them, as often folks may have a new twist on an old topic or we could have new folks who join us. Some of the regulars have dropped out.

Off to the kids….

Becky

March 15th, 2011
10:12 am

My two are to old for this service, but don’t think that I would of used it much when they were smaller..As JJ said, if we went to a movie, it was one they could see with us..

@Grandparent..Lighten up sweetie..Not sure of your age, but I’m 49 and my Mother nor Dad spent a lot of time with us interacting when I was a kid..I can remember plenty of days entertainging myself and younger brother when I was a kid..All in all, I think that I turned out to be a pretty decent person..Some might not agree with me on that..:~)

motherjanegoose

March 15th, 2011
10:22 am

@ Becky…I think you are just fine…LOL…do you mind if I say that? Hope all is well in your world.

Grandparent may be thinking of her kids and what she did with them, as I would with mine. After all, I COULD be a Grandma….yikes!

We did a lot of interacting with our two. I agree that my parents ( age 70 plus) did not do that much interacting with us or their grandkids…’tis true. Heading out the door now…FOR REAL!!

justmy2cents

March 15th, 2011
10:38 am

My kids are old enough to behave in at the movies, but doubtful I would have used the service when they were younger. When I lived in Germany, the movie theater there had a special family section that was glassed off (soundproofed) so families with babies and strollers could go in there if needed and not miss the movie. I never had to use it, but it sure was nice when others did. :o)

Cammi317

March 15th, 2011
10:44 am

I would never have left my child with someone I did not personally know just to catch a movie. Who knows what kind of morons, drug addicts and pedophiles would be in charge. No thank you.

Becky

March 15th, 2011
10:56 am

Thanks MJG.. All is pretty good this way..

We do a lot of interacting with our two also..As I have said before (and was fussed at) we plan pretty much everything that we do around our two..This includes food prep and vacations..In fact, we are planning on a trip to Piegon Forge this summer just to see the Titanic Exhibit..Has anyone on here been? The boy is fascinated (sp) with the movie and has seen it about 25 times..

Kat

March 15th, 2011
10:57 am

I interact A LOT with my kids, so I would take offense if I were to use such a service and was told that I should be interacting with my kids. Parents are entitled to have their own fun. In the good ol’ days (perhaps you, grandparent?), children were to be seen and not heard. Is that good interaction? Probably not.

Having said that, no way would I let someone whom I did not know well watch my children whether in my home or at a movie theater. We take the kids to the movies (kids’ movies only), which are most always fun for the parents too – movie makers know that it’s important that the grown-ups have a great movie experience too because they want you to buy the DVD later.

Future Old-Timer

March 15th, 2011
11:15 am

This is what irritates me about folks like “Grandparent” lamenting about “parents these days”: I am not only one of those parents, I was also a child during the days of yore when kids never wore a helmet while riding a bike, using a carseat beyond infancy was unheard of (not to mention it was totally fine to leave the kids in the car while you ran into the store for a carton of milk, or, as was often the case, a carton of cigarettes), daycare centers left A LOT to be desired and kids were permitted to stay home by themselves at a young age. I personally was a “latch key kid” who came home from school everyday to an empty house and fended for myself for several hours by the time I was 8. If my parents wanted to see a movie they just took me with them no matter how scary and/or inappropriate it was. Above all else, whenever I screwed up as a kid there wasn’t a crowd of acquaintances, relatives, educators and other “experts” lined up around the block pointing the finger at my parents. As difficult as it is to believe, this was all considered perfectly normal by the standards of the time. As a parent (and yes, miraculously, I did make it to adulthood), I would never want, or even be legally permitted, to do many of the things my parents did. The expectations that are placed on today’s parents are as complex as they are subjective and appear to change on a daily basis. You old-timers might want to try to remember that although what constitutes a “good” parent has changed a bit since your day, maybe it isn’t quite as easy as it looks.

theresa

March 15th, 2011
11:24 am

photius – you are not required to show up here. If you are no longer having fun than play somewhere else. If you have something useful to add to the conversation then send me your ideas. I had two people send in ideas last week so stop complaining unless you contribute. Also they have to be topics we haven’t covered. It has been fiive years and five months worth of about 10 topics a week. Movie theater babysitting is a new trend that we have not talked about.

GiGi

March 15th, 2011
11:38 am

@Grandparent: I’ve noticed it lots of times, parents don’t seem to really ‘parent’ anymore. Some are too busy being their child’s ‘friend’.
Everytime I go to any type of store (mall, discount, grocery) or eating establishment (fast food or sit-down), there are children running around screaming and wreaking havoc. Parents: Make your children mind already! Teach them to be respectful of other people! Teach them some manners! Or keep the brats at home until they know how to act out in public.
Bash Away. I’m tired of being nearly pushed over by these unruly children.

Tonya C.

March 15th, 2011
11:40 am

They had this in South Florida at several theatres and we loved it! But they only took kids who were potty-trained until age 10. It was a great service. and my husband and I used it quite a few times. it wouldn’t make me go to the movies more now though because of the crappy movies and sky-high ticket prices.

theresa

March 15th, 2011
11:48 am

tonya very interesting that ot was in s. Fla. I couldn’t find on e. Coast. That would be nice for fams on vaca if they didnlt any sitters. At least in the heater no one can kidnap your child.

catlady

March 15th, 2011
12:05 pm

Goodness, Theresa! Worrying about your child being kidnapped!? Doesn’t that seem over the top? Is the world such a terrifying place to you?

Becky, my younger daughter took me to see the Titanic exhibit a couple of years ago. I enjoyed it–very solemn. Never have seen the movie all the way through!

Lady Strange

March 15th, 2011
12:19 pm

I wouldn’t use this for a young child. Maybe an older one but not for my son who’s 3. I haven’t seen a movie at a theater in almost a year, by choice of course. I’ve been debating seeing one but I would wait till my son was at his dad’s and then go. Not really something important enough for me to get a babysitter for.

I would go for shaggy’s topic #3, I’m having a lot of fun dealing with that right now.

jarvis

March 15th, 2011
12:25 pm

@catlady
Spoiler Alert: it sinks

MomsRule

March 15th, 2011
12:27 pm

My boys are too old now but I would not have used this service. Like other posters I wouldn’t have been comfortable with the unknown staff.

Lots of people must be ok with it though for the market to exist.

Techmom

March 15th, 2011
12:35 pm

I rarely go to the movies and my son is old enough that he’s the one usually going while we go home to watch in the comfort of our home. But I can see how this would benefit some parents who don’t have a regular sitter. Plus, leaving them at the theatre means less time with a sitter than if you have one come to the house.

There are germs everywhere so I don’t see that being a big deal (they probably clean the children’s area better than they clean the nasty seats and floors in the theaters anyway). And most movies are only about 2 hours. It’s certainly not going to harm a child to have play for 2 hours, maybe even with people and kids he/she doesn’t know, because you know the alternative of sitting through a movie that is inappropriate is much better, right? Obviously I wouldn’t condone this often and regular but I don’t see why people think it’s so inappropriate.

Stacey

March 15th, 2011
12:49 pm

@Jarvis…Darn it! You spoiled the ending! :-D Seriously, I loved the movie and would love to see the exhibit. I love watching documentaries about shipwrecks and such.

On topic, as others have said, I probably wouldn’t use this service for a toddler but I would use it for an older child. My son is 10 so he wouldn’t qualify for the service even if it were available but as others have also pointed out, it’s so expensive go to the movies now that I usually wait to rent the DVD. I’m one of those people who absolutely has to get popcorn and a soda at the movie theater and then get mad at myself for spending $10 on 50 cents worth of snacks.

Wayne

March 15th, 2011
12:52 pm

At first I was thinking would I use this? But as I thought about it, on occasion, I might. I have a 7 yo and a 4 yo. When I go grocery shopping, the grocery store I use has a sitting service. Over time, I got to know the ladies that work there so I kinda know ‘em. I’ve got to believe that the theater would have to ensure that the folks they are using to watch kids are all checked out. Yeah, I know, not always the case but if Mom and Dad, and the 7 yo want to see a movie, and my 4 yo who can’t sit still for 3 seconds (I call him 3 Second Man), I might use this service and over time, get to know them. I don’t frequent the theaters as much as I go grocery shopping though – getting groceries generally eats up the theater funds!

Then again, I might just take the whole family to the bargain movie theater, (cash only, like $5 for first run movies, excellent popcorn with actual tables in front of your chair) and we all watch it.

Or, dial up NetFlix on the ol’ Wii, fire up the microwave popcorn and relax at home on the couch, with my hand in my waistband…

Get your mind outa the gutter! It’s a kids movie fer cryin’ out cats! With kids around. geez….

JJ

March 15th, 2011
1:04 pm

Incredible Universe, a “Best Buy” kind of store, had a child’s play area. You could leave your kid there for $1.00 and shop at your leasure…..I think Malls could use this…….I would LOVE it if they offered a “child free day” at the mall…..no strollers, no screaming kids, no kids running every which way…….just a nice quiet shopping experience.

Photius

March 15th, 2011
1:10 pm

Mrs. Giarrusso:

Your comments are certainly welcome however I thought it was the Host’s responsibility for topic ideas and the viewers were responsible for comments. I hope the traffic numbers are still increasing after 5 years and five months, after all it’s all about increasing viewership on a blog.

Topic suggestions:

1. Should the United States enter a third front in this war via a terrorist attack or some other provocation, and the Draft is re-installed – would you as a parent consider moving your child to Canada rather than possibly lose your child’s life to an unpopular war? Since Vietnam was an experience your father encountered I’m sure this subject matter was spoken of around the Walsh dinner table. With United States forces already spread thin in a two front war with no end in sight, should we suffer another terrorist attack from North Korea or another nation state the probably of the draft coming back is a reality most parents don’t even consider. Would you ship your child out of the country to avoid fighting and dying in a war you are morally opposed to?
2. The importance of a musical education in a child’s life.
3. Would you ever cut a child out of your Will and why?
4. Are you still giving money to your adult children who are working full time?
5. Every little boy in America should be taken to a professional Baseball game – what do you think?

And remember, it’s only lately that there have been two postings a day recently – hopefully to increase viewership. Prior to a few months ago it was only one posting a day which were always up bright and early. Also, please update your profile picture – “the baby” is now four years old. So with your two previous suggestions and those posted here, you should have a few days to focus more on the management of the blog thus reducing the stressors as a writer generating new topics via creative thought.

Cheers to life in Arizona!

Tonya C.

March 15th, 2011
1:17 pm

Theresa, it’s been a few years but I will try and find the info for you. It was a great because they also had an adult-only theater in the balcony above the theater with loveseats and a great restaurant with fantastic food. It was a great experience. It was a ‘kids club’ type experience and was always very clean and organized.

JJ, I love IKEA for their kids club for this very reason.

JJ

March 15th, 2011
1:22 pm

I know I’ve sent several topics to Theresa over the years, and haven’t seen a single one of them as of yet.

Most recent:

Would you serve alcohol to a minor. If said minor is your child………or if said minor was having a high school graduation party at your home????? Would you provide alcohol to underaged college students?

What would you do if your minor child was drinking?

Why can’t we have the freedom to buy alcohol on Sundays?

Do you push your christian views on others? (Christian Coaliation…)

But no, seems they are all baby topics, can’t let the kids out of your sight cuz there’s pedephiles and kidnappers on every corner. Oh and don’t forget the germs…….

Do you have kids but wish you didn’t?

Do you wish you could leave your spouse, but you are too afraid?

Are you afraid in general, and if so, what scares you?

Do you control your children, or do they control you.

C’mon Theresa………OH and let’s not forget a mindless “fun Friday” topic……..but no, topics posted on Thursday run until Tuesdays sometimes……

jarvis

March 15th, 2011
1:24 pm

Man. Everyone is so testy on here.
Let’s take a deep breath.

I’d be interested in hearing fron some of the other dads on dating advice for their boys. Do you tell them to treat girls well? My guy is still small, but I already try to teach him to not treat girls like one of the boys. I think it will pay off later in life.

“Girls are different and they don’t take things as lightly as boys. They think more.”

JJ

March 15th, 2011
1:34 pm

Jarvis – “Women need a reason, men need a place”…..’nuff said…..LOL….

I like that topic and I would be very interested to see what the men on this blog would contribute.

MomsRule

March 15th, 2011
1:58 pm

Kudos on the topics suggestions Photius, JJ and Jarvis!!!

What do the references to TWG and Arizona mean? What did I miss?

JATL

March 15th, 2011
2:00 pm

One question -if they supply babysitting, will they PLEASE not allow anyone to take a child under 8 into any film A) not for children -meaning R rated, PG-13 or non-animated and B) that starts after 8pm! If they’ll do that, then I’m all for it!

Personally, if they could demonstrate that the babysitters had some sort of credentials (like other play places/resorts/camps do), then I would be fine with it. We usually see movies while our kiddos visit with their grandma for a few hours, but for two kids, the price is a lot cheaper than a sitter. If we’ve gone to the trouble to get a sitter, we’ll probably go out before or after the movie. Also, I wouldn’t leave an infant or child under two who can’t talk, but my kids can talk, so not only can they speak up for themselves, they can tell me if something bad has gone down.

@Grandparent -exactly how is offering a paid sitter service at a theater in any way equitable to these parents who don’t want to parent? Everyone needs time away from their kids -and the kids need it too! Going to a movie for a few hours without kids doesn’t mean you’re a bad parent or that you’re not taking up enough time with your kids. Maybe if you had gotten out a bit more, you wouldn’t be so crabby. I grew up with an INCREDIBLY over-protective mother, but my parents did go out at least twice a month if not more often. They went to movies and concerts and parties. I enjoyed the fact that they went out and I really enjoyed the people who babysat for me.

JJ

March 15th, 2011
2:05 pm

I have some friends with kids, who have NEVER allowed their children to stay away from home, even for one night. They don’t even get to spend the night with their grandparents, friends, cousins, etc. They also do not use babysitters or allow their kids to go to a neighbors house to play, nor do they allow any children to come into their home. They take their kids with them everywhere they go. Concerts, movies, outings, etc. Never once have their children been out of their care, with the exception of school days……..unbelievable…..they also will not allow anyone to spend the night at their house….I personally think it is beyond stupid to bring a toddler, or any child under the age of 12 to a concert, unless it is a kids concert, etc…..

I think that is so sad. I mean, it’s nice they are a family, but let the kids get some other exposure to life……

shaggy

March 15th, 2011
2:09 pm

Photius,

I didn’t get the Arizona reference. Then, I googled a little bit and now, I completely understand the summer road trip topic. That wasn’t no “pack the kids and let’s ride and see America” road trip. That was the “I want to see Arizona before I choose whether to divorce him and stay in Georgia trip”. The Arizona house must be a whopper. You can get a great deal there right now.
You can google another frequent, practically every topic, blogger here that gets very clarifying results.

Kat

March 15th, 2011
2:47 pm

I was under the impression that TWG are Theresa’s initials and that she recently moved to Arizona and now posts her blog from out there?

JATL

March 15th, 2011
2:47 pm

@JJ -I have two sets of relatives who did that with their children. Kids NEVER were left with anyone EVER. I think the grandmother may have gotten to take a couple of them to a movie when they were 8 and 10 a few times. They were NOT allowed to go to any preschool/moms morning out/playdate situations and consequently were incredibly far behind socially when they started kindergarten. The parents don’t socialize with anyone except family, so they weren’t around friends’ children and no one else in the families had small children when they did. One family eventually home schooled and the other child in the other family did make some friends, but she was never allowed to have parties, sleepovers or attend any. Now all of those kids are 19, 23 and 28. Guess where they all live? Yep -at home with the parents! The youngest hems and haws about possibly going to college; his sister tried the college by her house and found it “frightening” and dropped out immediately -and works FROM HOME; and the other one in the other family went to school for awhile, has now dropped out and has no social life other than going to church on Sundays with her mom. The other two also don’t drive! They refuse to get a license! Talk about sad -just wasted lives and opportunities.