Gosselin kids reportedly blow lid off Santa: What to do when kids tell?

Radar online is reporting that some of the Gosselin children are blabbing about Santa Claus not being real at school.

From Radar online:

“The Gosselin children have been accused of spoiling Christmas for fellow students after telling them that Santa does not exist.”

” ‘The kids don’t believe in Santa Claus, and they’re telling other kids at school that there is no Santa Claus,’ a close friend of the family told RadarOnline.com.”

“Children as young as six were told that ‘your parents are lying to you,’ causing reality TV dad Jon to receive calls from stunned parents upset that Santa Claus was exposed as a fraud.”

” ‘He has received many phone calls from parents because the kids actually told others that ‘your parents are lying to you’ causing them to get upset,’ the insider said.”

I know a lot of you guys don’t care about Kate Gosselin and her brood but it does bring up an interesting question: What do you do when kids are spoiling the Santa story at school?

Michael reminded me that he was telling other kids when he was in KINDERGARTEN! (Such a Grinch!)

I think I have shared before my sister-in-law’s response when kids blab at school. She is a first-grade teacher and she has the greatest answer ever. When kids say to her “Well Johnny says his parents are Santa Claus.” She says “Well parents have to be Santa Claus when you stop believing.”

It’s perfect because she’s not saying the kid is lying, but she is reinforcing the Santa story without saying it. The kids can put it together however they want.

So what do you do with a kid who is blabbing about Santa at school or in the neighborhood? Do you tell the parents? Do you ask the kids to keep it to himself? Do you tell your kid something else to help support their Santa belief?

Has your kid ever been the one spoiling the story like my husband? What happened to your kid? Why did they want to tell everyone?

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justmy2cents

December 6th, 2010
6:55 am

I’ve told my kids the truth. One this year at age 7, hubby told the other at age 8. We tell them to not say anything about it at school. Funny how as adults we lie to our kids for years, but then expect our children to tell the truth to us!!

I’d stick with your sister in law’s approach, though. That pretty much covers the bases, and then I would always bring up the NORAD website on Xmas eve to show the kiddos where “Santa” is now and where he is headed next.

Of course the kids want to tell everyone. It is like secrets of the universe being unlocked LOL They are privy to adult information and want to share the knowledge.

catlady

December 6th, 2010
7:08 am

I tell my younger students, “Well, he comes to MY house.” Which is true.

When my elder daughter was about 8, she observed that she thought Santa and God were good friends. I reminded her that Santa was a MAN. Her eyes got big and she whispered, “Do you mean God is a WOMAN?”

My son, about 8, asked me if there was a Santa. I replied, “Not in the way you have been thinking of him.” He thought for a few moments and said, “Does this have any impact on the Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy?”

shaggy

December 6th, 2010
7:35 am

What???? You say Santa doesn’t exist???? Sez who????
I wouldn’t believe anything from that gooselin dysfunctional train wreck anyway, so I’m gonna just keep on believing in Santa. He has never let me down.

ken

December 6th, 2010
7:38 am

I remember that day well, when the question if Santa was real or not came to be, and with the aid of the Angel tree at work, all was fixed. I was able to tell them that Santa did exist, but not as you might think. Hee lived in your heart, but he was indeed real. Yes I was the one (and mom) who got the presents and gave the at Christmas. Now that they new the secret, they had to particapate. I brought two “Angel” tags from work, which had the gender, age,clothing sizes, and special interests listed (the kids were about the same age as mine) and gave them some money, and told them they were responsible for thes kids Christmas gifts. It was all up to them. They asked who they were, I said I don’t know. Where did they live? I don’t know. They took it serious, and actually did a good job shoping, and were proud to know that they were now a Santa is secret. My kids are now in there 20’s, in college, and as tradition, we are still buying gifts for Angles…

motherjanegoose

December 6th, 2010
7:52 am

@ ken…great story thanks for sharing! I have a tooth brush with a Santa on the end and have written a story about how Santa has to brush his teeth after eating all those cookies. It is darling to watch the eyes of the children. Too bad some have to spoil the magic of Christmas, for children. I am Dutch and love the story of Sinterklass.

Suzy Q

December 6th, 2010
8:07 am

When my 8 year old wanted to know, I told her. But I also told her that St. Nicholas was a real person, and in his tradition of giving generously to others, we do the same. I did tell her not to say a word to her little brother and others. She seems to enjoy going along with the secret so far as she reminds her brother frequently to be good for Santa.

AZ Mom

December 6th, 2010
8:14 am

We had a neighbor tell my kids that she saw her Mom putting out Christmas presents so there is no Santa. When they asked me I told them that Mom and Dad help Santa by arranging all the presents under the tree since he has to many houses to go to – and some of us are just particular about how things look. They asked if I believed in Santa, I told them yes, I didn’t want to get socks and underwear for Christmas! :)

Sk8ing Momma

December 6th, 2010
8:18 am

We’ve never propagated the Santa lie in our household; hence, our children have never believed in Santa. (Frankly, my 9yo son can’t believe that kids believe in Santa…It’s such an unbelievable story to him ~ LOL!) They know that we purchase their gifts. I’m unapologetic about it. I do not encourage my children to tell other children that Santa does not exist; however, at the same time I do not instruct them to “go along” with it. I let them handle Santa discussions as they see fit. I figure that parents who tell their kids about Santa can also handle another lie and come up with some excuse as to why some kids don’t believe.

Scrooge

December 6th, 2010
8:20 am

Of course being a Scrooge I care nothing for the fat man in the red suit, with that being said however, it sill amazes me how some “adults” take such great delight in telling their kids their is no Santa. They wear it as a badge of honor that their children no longer believe in such fairy tales.

Why would anybody snuff out that light? As I get older Christmas comes faster and faster but the only time it seems to stop is when it involves a child. Waiting in line for Santa, the pink pig, lighting of the great tree, shaking presents. Fun times indeed. As for my home and my family if anybody at any age states there is no Santa, its underwear for them that year. I tell you people they only make that mistake once with me.

Now I’m off to go fill water ballons for the carolers that might come by tonight.

mom of 3

December 6th, 2010
8:23 am

Santa is as real in my home at age 54 as he was at age 5, he just evolves.

deidre_NC

December 6th, 2010
8:27 am

i always told my kids that parents were the ones who paid santa..and then with the last ones i just gave up the whole santa thing….they get gifts from who loves them and gives them gifts….not some fat man my kids dont know….plus…all kids hear is if you are bad you wont get anything…well when you have a broke year and cant do as much what are the kids gonna think…that they were bad? better the truth imo.

RJ

December 6th, 2010
8:28 am

Maybe it was just in my little world, but growing up it seemed that all of my friends believed in Santa. Today, we have more kids that don’t believe in Santa, that think Halloween is the devil’s birthday and are atheist or agnostice. Again, maybe this was just in my little world. My neighbor refused to let her kids believe in Santa, so they came to my house telling my son that there isn’t any Santa Claus. She spoke about it in front of my son, to which I answered that we DO believe in Santa at my house. That ended that conversation. I don’t care what anyone else believes in, just don’t push your beliefs on my kids. She understood. Now that they’re older, nobody believes in Santa. Hey, it was fun while it lasted.

motherjanegoose

December 6th, 2010
8:29 am

I hope someone shares their Santa foot prints story here. I cannot remember if it is JJ or FCM.
I thought that was a cute story. Off to share stories myself…have a great day all!

deidre_NC

December 6th, 2010
8:29 am

love the way you handled it ken…and we always do the angel tree thing…

JJ

December 6th, 2010
8:29 am

Santa is alive and well, and living in my home!!!!

When he comes down the chimney, he walks to my daughter’s bedroom and gives her a kiss on her forehead. He does leave some snow when walking down the hall…..the regulars on this blog will understand the “snow”…

Motherjanegoose, yikes, we have something else in common…..I’m Dutch too!!!! It’s my dream to one day go to Holland. You in?

ashley

December 6th, 2010
8:33 am

Shame on you sk8ing mamma. You sound like a real joy. You have deprived your kids of something they can never get back. I bet your one of those people who complain about people saying Merry Christmas instead of Holiday’s. Either that or your one of those foolish jehovah witnesses. Enjoy your coal.

iRun

December 6th, 2010
8:33 am

My son (9) came to us and asked us if Santa was really just Mom and Dad. We copped to it. But for us it’s always been a little weird. We’re not Christians so we don’t celebrate Christmas, but who doesn’t love the Holiday Season, right? So we officially celebrate Winter Solstice (we’re not pagan but I love the Winter and Summer solstices). Somewhere along the way Santa migrated over to Winter Solstice in our house. The reality is Santa is an amalgam of Christian and pagan mythology AND another reality is kids love the idea of Santa so…it’s not unreasonable to spread Santa around.

Anyway, regardless of our weird family holiday tradition, he just sort of realized the logistics of the whole thing didn’t make any sense to him anymore. And while we admitted to him that there is no Santa we talked about the myth (and I don’t mean that a pejorative, just simply that stories that old and that well-worn sort of take on lives of their own) of the real St Nick and the spirit/symbolism of giving. And he agreed not to blow it for anyone at school. I reminded him that his Jewish friends don’t believe in Santa so if he wants to be truthful he can say he doesn’t believe and then just link it to him not being Christian.

Koz

December 6th, 2010
8:33 am

@Scrooge You are so right. The poster before you proves your point – “They wear it as a badge of honor that their children no longer believe in such fairy tales.”

I don’t think of it as propagating a lie, I think of it as a little magic that my kids will only be able to experience for a very short time in their lives.

motherjanegoose

December 6th, 2010
8:37 am

@ JJ…I have a passport and enough miles to go tomorrow but the long flights KILL me.

Maybe some day….thanks! Outta here…stay warm Atlanta folks…after all it is December! It’s 28 here now!

DB

December 6th, 2010
8:46 am

Our next door neighbor child clued our youngest in on the deal when she was 6 or 7, but, smart girl that she is, she kept quiet about it for fear of upsetting the gift sleigh. :-) But they were still having pics taken with the Phipps Santa until the year before the former one died — I have 18 years worth of Santa videos, and it’s priceless. :-)

Alecia

December 6th, 2010
8:54 am

My daughter is asking a lot of questions and she also did last year. So, I plan to just let her know the whole story this year. Being evasive is too exhausting. I am also educating her on Saint Nicholas(which was real). I love the crowd that says “I tell my kids the story/myth about 300 A.D. St. Nick)”.Lol

TinaTeach

December 6th, 2010
9:08 am

We have an odd issue in my household. I am Jewish, my husband is not and we have agreed to raise the kids Jewish. However, my husband really wants to do the Santa thing for our son. So we decided to do the “Santa visits all of God’s children” in our house. We even put up a tree with an angel at the top. Should interesting as he gets older.

iRun

December 6th, 2010
9:11 am

Alecia, the reason I call it a myth is because the real story of St Nick has been distorted. He was Greek, he was the patron saint of Russia (only Catholics do the saint thing, right?), his miracle that makes him a saint had to do with multiplying a shipment of wheat, he was big into gift-giving but it was supposedly on December 6th that he did his secret gift-giving. Finally, much of his entire story is replicated in Greek folklore in another character named Basil. Somewhere along the line, it all got linked to the symbolic birthday celebration of Jesus.

So, it’s all one big fun mythology.

iRun

December 6th, 2010
9:13 am

Tina, since Santa Claus really has little to do with the birth of Jesus why don’t you just celebrate him for who he was? And maybe use Dec 6 (that’s today, so next year) as the day he visits your house? Treat it with the religiousness we treat Hallowe’en (which is the co-op of a pagan holiday by the Catholics).

MomOf2Girls

December 6th, 2010
9:36 am

Obviously we don’t do the Santa thing (or the Easter Bunny :-), but I do have a question…..

What do you tell your kids when their friends get much more expensive gifts from Santa than they do, or the “it” toy / electronic that every kid desperately wants? I can’t imagine having to answer the stated or implied question of “Why does Santa like them better than me?”

BusyMom

December 6th, 2010
9:42 am

My 6 year old is really into Santa this year, but her cousins have never believed. I really think one of them may tell her, so I’m wondering what to say when they do. She is enjoyed Santa this year, and it’s fun to watch her get excited about him.

catlady

December 6th, 2010
9:46 am

Please, Theresa, NOT ANOTHER WORD ABOUT THE GOSSELINS! Unless one spontaneously combusts!

Theresa Walsh Giarrusso

December 6th, 2010
9:51 am

MJG – You may be remembering my mom’s santa footprints — My brother was on the verge of not believing but she wanted him to believe so she tracked soot footprints all across her carpet so we would believe Santa was really there — I’m looking at my carpet right now and I can’t say that I would do that. I loved Ken’s story — that was great. What a great way to handle it. All of mine still believe. but I have used my SIL story when they have asked about it. We always do the angel tree at church so that will be in back pocket to make them think about when the time comes. See it;’s good we have these discussions.

Theresa Walsh Giarrusso

December 6th, 2010
9:52 am

Catlady — It was only a jumping off point — no one is discussing them — it just let me introduce the topic with something newsy — I know you guys don’t want to discuss them.

Betty

December 6th, 2010
9:53 am

I love this topic today because I’m having an issue that some of you might be able to help me with. My children, 8 and 6 believe in Santa. Several of my 8 year old’s friends have told her that he doesn’t exist but she doesn’t believe any of them–I think she truly wants to keep believing in Santa Clause.

We always participate in Toys for Tots and angel trees, etc and I explain that so many children aren’t as fortunate as her and that Christmas Time is an opportunity for all of us to help Santa out and make sure that those kids have great Holidays. This year, we’re working with several shelters and charity groups to provide christmas gifts for kids and I’m having a hard time explaining that we need to really make it special because these kids may not get anything else for Christmas. She’s convinced of course that Santa will be coming for them as well and I’ve explained that sincesome of these kids are in a temporary home, sometimes Santa doesn’t know where to find them, so he counts on us and people like us to fill in. But some of these kids are also from struggling families hit hard from the economy too–and she understands that. So of course, she doensn’t understand Santa being so generous with her and not with them. The question always comes up–Have they been bad children??

I’ve always been curious, since it’s come up time and time again–how do others explain to kids that Santa doesn’t necessarily visit poor kids even though they’ve been good all year–without completely blowing the whole Santa myth? I can’t be the only one that keeps getting this question so I’d love to hear how some others address it at home.

Betty

December 6th, 2010
9:57 am

@MomOf2Girls —You posted before I saw it –but yes, I”m aksing the same question!

Denise

December 6th, 2010
10:12 am

Betty’s comment speaks to the whole “Santa won’t visit you unless you’ve been a good boy/girl” thing some use against children. It is something that does set up the question surrounding less financially fortunate families. I’m interested, too, in how you all would handle that. I know we have used that against my nephews and now I’m feeling that we shouldn’t.

Becky

December 6th, 2010
10:33 am

We just tell our two that we have to pay Santa for the things that they get..They’ve never questioned others getting more than they do..I do tell them that Santa watches them and he knows when they have been bad and that this might cause them to get a gift taken away from them..So the girl says, if we be really goo, does this earn us a gift back? This year they have both only requested 2 things, so won’t be that bad for them..Of course, I have such a big family that by the time they get one present from each person, they have quiet a bit of stuff..

@JJ & MJG..I have been to Holland and y’all would love it..It’s a beautiful place..Wasn’t there when the tulips were in bloom, but have seen pictures of when they were and am planning to go back during that time..

Jeff

December 6th, 2010
10:35 am

Good job Ken.

Fay

December 6th, 2010
10:37 am

My 3-year old asked me point blank yesterday if Santa was real. I told him that he was pretend, but that it was fun to pretend that he’s real.
I won’t lie to him for the sake of reliving the “magic” of my youth, especially when he already knows the truth deep down. It just erodes trust. For all of you haters who think it ruins the kids from religion, remember that the people you’re complaining about are the ones who grew up in the generation where parents insisted it was true despite the evidence. I think it’s much healthier not forcing this lie on them so that they can still trust in you when you teach them about the Bible and about life.

DB

December 6th, 2010
10:45 am

It was interesting when my son finally figured out who Santa Claus was — he was shocked that his normally frugal parents were the source of all that Christmas largesse. And to this day, my kids still have not figured out where in our house we hide the presents!

FCM

December 6th, 2010
10:56 am

My eldest busted me on being the toothfairy…Kid apparently heard me in the room and it was like 2AM!

Same child has been trying to debunk Santa for years. She asked me the other day if I still believed and I said “Sure do.” She said but Mama, how can that be?

So I said, there comes a time when every child–just like in Polar Express–has to decide what they are going to believe in. If you want to believe in a happy fat man in a red suit sliding down a chimney that is fine. If you want to believe that is all nonsense-that is fine. IF you want to believe, that in the 6th century there was a St Nick that was a MAN who embodied much of what Christians are taught about caring about others and that he has come to symbolize the Spirit Christmas that we are supposed to hold in our hearts as we do things for others, or as we give gifts…well then Santa is very real…and more importantly you can keep that special child like quality of Christmas–and hope and awe– in your heart and life forever! Now, your almost 11 so you are biggest enough to decide what you believe. You are also old enough to be part of the Christmas Spirit and Tradition for others–like little people–or to just ruin it all before they have a chance to really experience it and decide what they believe.

She left for awhile–apparently to ponder this in her heart and mind. She came back and said “Mama, I am not ready for Santa in the red suit not to be real. But I am ready to help others think he is so I am guessing that story about a man in the 6th century is why you say he is real. So, can Santa still come but me help?” I told her not to tell but she had just become one of Santa’s elves.

FCM

December 6th, 2010
10:59 am

MJG–If you’re of dutch heritage you better put your shoes by the bed tonight. Also need to put carrots by the door.

After all today is St. Nicholas Day.

JJ

December 6th, 2010
11:04 am

Theresa, use baby powder, and sprinkle it over your feet as you walk. It looks like snow fell off Santa’s boots. That’s what I do.

JJ

December 6th, 2010
11:05 am

@Momof2girls – you tell them to appreciate and be very thankful for what they get, and not to worry about what others get. And remind them there are other children out there who get nothing!!!!

JOD

December 6th, 2010
11:08 am

@Fay – You make a good point. We’re just getting into Santa Claus this year with our 2-year-old, and I hope she can enjoy the magic for years to come. But once she becomes suspicious we will follow her lead to decide whether just to give it up or to try TWG’s friend’s line.

@DB – It’s silly, but I am so excited about having all kinds of impossible hiding places in our new house. At 2, the Child doesn’t even know to look, but over the years – if she’s anything like her Daddy – she will certainly try. I intend to keep her guessing, too!

We’re planning to make cookies for Santa as a family and put them out along with carrots for the reindeer :o) This will also be our first year keeping all the presents hidden until Christmas morning. Obviously Daddy and Mommy are pretty excited about Santa, and we hope it rubs off…

Kate

December 6th, 2010
11:12 am

My mom told me the truth about Santa when I was 6. The only thing that prompted me to ask her was the fact that the house we were living in at the time didn’t have a fireplace. What I meant to ask was “How does Santa get inside our house when there’s no chimney for him to come down?” but for some reason it came out “Is Santa Clause real?” My mother, who’s never been a big fan of Christmas anyway, gave me a very abrupt “NO” and that was the end of that! I was so devastated, I started crying. I really wished she had tried to keep the Santa thing going a little longer, or at least tried to break it to me gently like Ken described in his comment. My son is in second grade now and every year it seems like more and more of his friends tell him there’s no Santa. We always tell him the same thing “He’s only real if you believe in him.” It’s similar to what TWG’s SIL tells kids, and it kind of goes along with the story in “Polar Express” which he both reads and watches a lot this time of year.

VaLady

December 6th, 2010
11:12 am

What a great question for St. Nicolas Day, which is also my birthday. My family was big on studying the lives of Saints and trying to emulate the qualities that they embodied. From an early age, I understood that St. Nicholas was a real person, who tried to help those less fortunate. He would leave his “gifts” at night so that he would not embarrass his recipients. My parents told me that other kids believed in Santa Claus and that I wasn’t to spoil their excitement. I did the same thing with my children. As far as I’m concerned, St. Nicholas will live forever!

jarvis

December 6th, 2010
11:14 am

“We’ve never propagated the Santa lie in our household”….
That is the most self-righteous statement I’ve ever read in my life.

“We’ve also never lied to our children by calling their classmates “friends” when in fact they are just acquaintances. Children are just small adults and should be treated accordingly.”

Pagan

December 6th, 2010
11:23 am

But you lie to your kids about God and Jesus….

TinaTeach

December 6th, 2010
11:26 am

iRun- We never really looked at Santa as being apart of the Jesus story. It’s more that many Jewish families simply don’t use the myth of Santa as part of the holiday season. My husband is Pagan so it makes for an interesting mix in our house hold. Also my in-laws live with us (and they’re quasi-Christian, but that’s another story). I don’t think the “December 6th” visit will work with my in-laws here.
We also decided on doing Santa because my husband doesn’t want our kid to be the one to go to school and ruin it for others. I really don’t think it makese much difference in the thick of things but since I really don’t have super strong feelings about Santa I’m not worried about it too much.