Do Atlanta families still hunt?

So apparently it’s deer hunting season, and I know this because one of my friends on Facebook is posting photos of himself with a dead deer.

I’m surprised there aren’t more hunting posts or photos of recent conquests on Facebook. So is it just my “friends” aren’t hunting or are Atlanta families in general not hunting? Is it now more a South Georgia thing? Or is it a from-Georgia, native kind of thing?

Growing up in Georgia we had neighbors that hunted. We would see them all in their camouflage unloading the car. (I was never up early enough to see anybody leave.) My family never hunted even though my parents are originally from Georgia. I started to appreciate deer hunting more when we lived in Pennsylvania. It was explained as an absolute necessity to keep the population in check and to keep deer from starving during the winter. The first day of deer hunting season was even a school holiday in State College, Pa.

So what do you think: Are Atlanta families still hunting? Is it just a South or North Georgia thing now? Is it just a Georgia-native thing now? Does your family hunt? Tell us about that experience – what do you hunt, how young did the kids hunt, what do they think about hunting?

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JATL

November 10th, 2010
12:31 am

My father is an avid hunter. He still lives in the middle GA town where I grew up. Almost everyone, including many women, who I went to school with near there still hunts and posts quite a bit about it on Facebook. Very few of the people I know here in town are hunters. I love to fish, but I’ve never enjoyed hunting. My husband isn’t opposed to it, but he doesn’t really enjoy it either. However, my father is quite eager to take my boys out when they get a little older (they’re only 4 and 2 now, but the 4 year old can’t wait to go deer hunting and turkey hunting), and I’ve let my husband know that he’s going to have to go hunting -at least deer hunting -with them! I’ll go on the bird hunts. I actually don’t hate those and don’t mind shooting birds, but I don’t like deer hunting. I’m not opposed to others doing it, but it’s incredibly boring to me, and I don’t really want to shoot a deer -much less bleed it and clean it. My husband’s father also wants to hunt with them and the same rule applies -I am not turning my boys loose with firearms in the woods with two old men who have never really had primary childcare responsibilities! So, in about 3 years, we’ll all be giving it a go.

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shaggy

November 10th, 2010
6:31 am

Yes, and the lean, healthy meat is the ONLY reason to hunt. No trophies here, just meat.

One issue I have with hunter wannabes, is their ignorance of proper aging of the meat, which removes (just like beef) much of the stronger, gamey taste and naturally tenderizes the meat. Once, I was around when some suburban, and somewhat dumb, hunters had finally harvested a deer. They were butchering and firing up their grill to cook the kill, pretty much right after taking it. They had no idea that you need to age venison for about 10 days in cool storage, before you cook it. I declined their offer of some meat, and overheard a couple remarking on the “strong taste” of their grilled meat.
Also, when butchering venison, take the time to remove the connective tissue. You will be glad you did. The meat is much less chewy. And, try slow smoking a ham cut, with garlic cloves inserted into cuts made into the meat, for about 12 hours. UMMMMMMMM GOOD!

shaggy

November 10th, 2010
6:37 am

One more thing. Wild turkey does not taste like your Publix Butterball. I have seen many surprised looks when they take a bite and expect BB. It is still very good eating, just different.
Remember, the animal tastes like what it eats. That is why a possum should be cleaned by eating corn for a good spell, or the meat tastes like garbage. Also, if someone offers wild pig, be suspicious. i have seen recent kills, where the meat is actually moving from all of the parasites. That is one pig I just won’t eat.

shaggy

November 10th, 2010
6:43 am

Other things to remember:
Wild Turkey does not taste like Publix Buterball. I have seen many surprised looks on faces when they finally figure that out. It is still good eating, just different.
Game animals taste like their diet. A possum need to be confined and fed corn for about a month, maybe longer, or the meat is raunchy.
Watch the feral hog. I have seen freshly killed feral hogs, where the meat was actually moving from the parasite load. Someone else can eat that, not me.
Happy Hunting.

Sloan

November 10th, 2010
7:03 am

My family enjoys the outdoors greatly, especially hunting and fishing. We have two properties, one here in South Georgia and one in the Dakotas. Both of them have been placed into conservation easement programs that will restrict the use of the land so that no one can ever develop it or plow it to plant crops on it. These easements insure that the wildlife the land supports will always have the necessary habitat for survival. We eat what we kill, and through the land that we care for preserve far more game than we would ever be interested in killing.

PHR

November 10th, 2010
7:05 am

This is a subject near and dear to my husband and son. They both hunt deer, wild hogs, and turkey. They both love to go their “hunt camp.” My husband is trying to teach the tradition to our son. The place they used to process the deer said they had more than ever this year on opening day of the season.

Price

November 10th, 2010
7:19 am

Let’s hope it continues…Hunters and Fishermen pay tremendous amounts of money to enjoy their pursuits and that money is what allows everyone else the quiet enjoyment of parks and trails and camp sites across Georgia which many of you hike, bike and like. We should have a State wide Hug a Hunter Day !!

mom2alex&max

November 10th, 2010
7:22 am

I have tried and tried and tried to keep an open mind about hunting. I have read literature that says it has to happen to control the wild population, specially deer. I have even seen brochures about an organization that takes donated hunted animals to feed the homeless. They butcher it and store it and distribute it to the needed.I have listened to countless old timers describe the fine tradition.

And for all that, it still annoys me. I think it’s barbaric. Yes I KNOW: where do I think that burger and chicken nugget came from right? I KNOW they don’t grow them in styrofoam trays. I KNOW that the tenderloin I am eating once was a darling pig. And yet, I still can’t get over hunting. I guess my issue is that people consider hunting a “sport”. In my mind, when you give the animals guns and binoculars, then you can call it a sport.

I am SORRY if my opinion offends anyone. Feel free to commence the flaming.

motherjanegoose

November 10th, 2010
7:24 am

We do not hunt but I have been all over the country where it is a way of life for some. Kudos to them! It is a skill that is passed down for generations. I met a lady in North Dakota whose 14 year old son hunts with a bow and arrow, then dressed the deer and make deer jerky. That while our city kids are texting and on Facebook….hmmmm.

We do not care for the taste of venison or other wild things….that is just us and I know that other families love it; however, I did live on the farm and had black angus beef that was grass fed and also chickens who were free range.

When I was in Wyoming ( October 1) my clients reminded me to watch out for the deer, so I was scanning all across the fields as I drove back to Billings MT. I saw a deer sprinting towards me on the left and since I am not good judge of the deer’s gate and distance….I slowed down. The car behind me sped up and passed me….almost hit the deer as they did. I was shaken!

Have a nice day all. I am off to get my new car ( with 16,000 miles on it) . They did not accept my offer at first but then called me back and said they could take it. This is not the first time this happened and it will probably not be the last. I did not even have a coupon ;>/

motherjanegoose

November 10th, 2010
7:26 am

@momtoalexandmax…I am not offended but many of the meats you perhaps do consume are also cultivated in barbaric scenarios….perhaps someone else can explain this.

mom2alex&max

November 10th, 2010
7:33 am

MJG: I know that too. I admit my opinion and feelings are irrational.

shaggy

November 10th, 2010
7:41 am

mom2alex&max,

Simply put, anything can be considered “sport”. That definition of hunting is purely a marketing ploy to sell stuff. Trust me, many hunt to sustain their freezer and don’t care about sport, just one shot, and one clean kill. Mostly, these individuals and families already live an outdoor centric life, so “sport” does not impress them.

JJ

November 10th, 2010
7:48 am

I don’t care for hunting, but I do like the meat. Venison, like Shaggy said, if cured properly, is awesome. My neighbor uses venison in just about everything. It is an aquired taste, that’s for sure.

I did fish growing up, but it just killed me when they died. My family all loved fish, except for me, I never ate it, until about 7 years ago. I still don’t care for fish, but I like a mild fish like talapia.

I’m just too tenderhearted. I know people hunt for various reasons. I just don’t like killing animals. I don’t even kill spiders. I do usher them outside though.

iRun

November 10th, 2010
7:55 am

My dad used to be an avid hunter and when I was growing up I, a girl, would go with him. However, none of his five children have maintained the hobby though MOST of us have on to be outdoorsman/women. One of my brothers is an avid camper and mountain biker. Another an avid camper. Myself I am an avid hiker, camper, and trail runner. Growing up I think the thing we liked about going hunting with Dad was the camping part. I remember the hunting part being sleepy, cold, and boring.

I don’t really admire hunting as a “sport” thought I don’t oppose it as a way to get some game meat, being as how game meat, by definition, can’t be bought at your butcher. Additionally, as someone contemplating going vegetarian (not vegan so will still consume dairy and eggs) for the main reason being that I DESPISE the meat INDUSTRY I have less revulsion over consumption of game than industrialized meat.

All that being said, we’re raising our son in the city. We’re handing down outdoorsmanship (is that a word) with hiking and camping, mountain biking and trail running. But we’re not hunting. Game meat isn’t worth it.

deidre_NC

November 10th, 2010
7:56 am

i dont hunt….but the thing i miss the most about my ex is that my freezer was always full of meat..that he killed. i have no problem with hunting for food…i do have a problem with hunting just to kill something. i really dont know anyone who does this…and hope i never do.

for anyone who gets meat that hasnt been aged you can soak it overnight in very salty cold water and it will remove a lot of that gamey taste. the boy who has come to live with me is a hunter and i am looking forward to have a freezer full of hog and deer meat.

i do fish…when i have time..i love fresh caught fish…yummy….

id rather eat meat that has been living in the wild than the meat that has been raised in horrible conditions. just read about how grocery store meat is raised and you probably would never want to eat it again.

deidre_NC

November 10th, 2010
7:58 am

i would hunt but i cant bring myself to watch a deer fall that i shot. maybe a little contradictory since i will surel cook and eat it…but i cant kill it.

Andy's SAWB

November 10th, 2010
8:05 am

Like other metro Atlantans I don’t get to go often but, when I do, I enjoy it tremendously! Unfortunately, there is not much hunting land in Sandy Springs.

shaggy

November 10th, 2010
8:05 am

deidre_NC,

If you live in those beautiful NC mountains, that is one area I would eat wild boar. Those are supposed to be eating clean, mostly tree nuts, food. I have heard the meat has a nutty, acorn-like flavor.
Plus, does that salt soak help with tenderization? i have heard that it doesn’t. I prefer to naturally age game meats, just like those choice beef cuts at the supermarket.

I hunt for food

November 10th, 2010
8:06 am

My question is simply this: would you rather the deer starve and die a horrible death or be taken humanely? People seem to forget that our forefathers hunted, fished, and lived off the land. Had it not been for this fact, you would not be here today. And to answer the original question, many people in metro Atlanta hunt.

Al Faretta

November 10th, 2010
8:07 am

Sure, the meat is wonderful, but you can buy it at the grocery or butcher shop nowadays. Who has the time to waste sitting out in the cold waiting for something to walk by to shoot anymore anyway? My time is worth much more than that.

And really…..calling hunting a sport is quite a stretch. It’s “entrapment for food”….it has about as much “sport” in it as bowling, golf, poker, or NASCAR.

shaggy

November 10th, 2010
8:15 am

The hunting for herd managemant argument is a true one, because we wiped out their natural predators in this region long ago. Wolves were the most effective herd management tools, until they came into direct competition with white settler’s livestock.

SOWEGA

November 10th, 2010
8:19 am

I was born and grew up in South West Georgia and hunting was very much a part of my life. During dove season many guys would show off their guns to each other after removing them from the trunk of their cars parked directly in front of the high school. Today we would be arrested for doing so. Huntilng was a true sport then – if you killed it you ate it. Hunting’s gone way too commercial today.

Jeff

November 10th, 2010
8:26 am

I’ve never been in to it. I don’t begrudge people that like it, they have the freedom to do what appeals to them. And I’m not morally against it.

It’s just that you have to get up so dang early and walk around in the woods and then sit there and not move and as Ron White says, “I just don’t want to do that”.

Lady Strange

November 10th, 2010
8:42 am

My family in Wisconsin hunts every year. Unfortunatly I don’t have any family here in GA that hunts. I sure would love some venison! Maybe if I’m lucky I can bring some home from Wisconsin next year. My ex-husband kept talking about hunting but never actually went out and did it.

Lori

November 10th, 2010
8:48 am

I don’t hunt personally, but I don’t have a problem with folks who do (in moderation). I don’t like the folks who hunt for trophies only, and shoot as many as they can. If you want the meat, fine. Shooting your own deer is the best way to acquire some that I know. Back in the days before grocery stores, that’s how primitive people got food, was to hunt or grow it themselves. I don’t see anything wrong with it. It would seem hypocritical to me if I did, since all the meat we eat is from an animal. Hunters are probably MORE humane about it. At least those animals had a good life, as compared to some of the poor cows and chickens raised on farms. But still, there is no way I could look a beautiful animal in the face and shoot it :(

Becky

November 10th, 2010
8:59 am

My husband has hunted in the past, not so much now..He says its to hot (most of time) to hunt here..I love it though when he does hunt as I do love vension.. My BIL hunts every year an probably will until he passes on..He has property in Floyd County where he hunts..

My sister missed my first wedding, because she was deer hunting..LOL..The boy wants to do and in another year, his Poppy will take him..He loves to fish and will fish all day if you let him, so I guess he will dook with hunting..

@shaggy..Sounds good, might have to try you recipe with vension..I love chili and stews made with vension..I remember the first time I ate “real” chicken..Saw my Dad go out in the yard and kill it, cooked it up and we kids ate it..Wasn’t to horrible bad, but made me realize the difference in fresh and store bought..

motherjanegoose

November 10th, 2010
9:04 am

@ Lady Strange…please do not bring it back on the airplane….LOL. I sat across the aisle from a lady who had a carry on full of farm fresh eggs ( how di she get in through security?). She was in the bulkhead seat and the flight attendant told her that her carry on had to go in the over head. This is when I heard her mention the contents, A kind man carefully slid the bag into the overhead. I kept thinking that if we had turbulence we would all smell like eggs and the laptops up there might be a little ripe the next week. I takes all kinds!

JATL

November 10th, 2010
9:16 am

@Shaggy -we should swap recipes! I greatly enjoy what my Dad kills with the exception of dove. I’ve never liked dove meat, but I do love quail! There’s such a huge difference in wild quail and store-bought -just like turkey. I have some fantastic venison recipes handed down from my grandmother. Every Thanksgiving we have the turkey and a million sides, but we also have BBQ’d venison. For those of you who don’t like venison -you should give this a go. Well-aged venison steaks are fantastic as well -and incredibly low fat. Where so many people go wrong cooking venison is that they treat it like beef, so they wind up with a dry hockey-puck. Add not aging and/or marinating or tenderizing and you don’t have a very tasty piece of meat. Venison is so lean -it doesn’t take long- especially on a grill, and you have to be really careful with temperature.

@mom2alex&max -this is not to “flame” you, and I know you said you had heard all of this, but the factory farming of pork, beef and poultry is just about the most inhumane and barbaric practice I can think of in this modern age. I eat all of those products, but I have become increasingly bothered by both the treatment of the animals and the safety and health factors surrounding their flesh. I believe it truly pays to shell out more money for 100% natural/organic, grass-fed, free range, no hormones or artificial ingredients given or added meat and poultry. Most of it comes from animals that are raised in incredibly cramped conditions, shot full of hormones and given an unnatural diet for them so they fatten up quicker and can be rounded up to the slaughter house where they’re killed in horribly cruel fashion. You can argue that killing is cruel in itself, but the buck that doesn’t know the bullet is coming never experiences the terror of the cow or pig loaded into the slaughter-house chute.

And as far as controlling population -YES -it is vital that we cull deer, especially, because we’ve mowed down and built over so much of their habitat and killed off most their natural predators -wolves, bears and mountain lions. They get something called “black tongue disease” that rots their mouths so they can’t eat and are in pain and slowly starve to death or else they are hit by cars or simply starve due to overpopulation and lack of food. Personally I had much rather be struck down unsuspectingly with a bullet while wandering around in the woods than starve to death while in pain from a disease any day. Just some more info for you!

One thing I’ve never done that my father has REALLY gotten into lately is hog hunting. He and a friend of his have even built a special, portable “hog hunting house” so they can sit in it out of the weather (they’re old men) all night and hunt hogs. This is something that actually rather appeals to me, and I think I’ll accompany my boys for those hunts. Not sure why (maybe it’s my love of porcine flesh), but the thought of shooting a hog, particularly a feral one, doesn’t bother me a bit. Shaggy-I’m going to ask my Dad about the parasite issue. He’s a very responsible and clean hunter, and I know he would never eat meat that had anything suspicious or nasty going on with it after a kill. The hogs he’s hunting are domestics gone feral and have had a very natural diet on some of his private land. What is the issue causing the parasite problem?

JATL

November 10th, 2010
9:21 am

@LadyStrange -you may want to google some Georgia game processors or Georgia wild game/venison for sale. I know there are several South Georgia places that make and sell their own sausage and pork products year – round but also offer wild game processing. Sometimes those places will take deer or whatever people kill who can’t do anything with it and sell it. You could probably find some venison at one of those places or a local farmer’s market. I would only buy it from a licensed meat processor or butcher though.

JATL

November 10th, 2010
9:22 am

TWG -GEEEEEZ! -this is the 2nd day in a row my main comment is missing! The one yesterday on shopping habits never appeared. Can you please find the first one today? THANKS!

JATL

November 10th, 2010
9:24 am

@TWG -actually my first comment is up -it’s my second one made around 9:15.

deidre_NC

November 10th, 2010
9:26 am

@shaggy-yes wild boar is great…and aging is much better but if for some reason you cant do that the salt water helps a lot and i havent noticed any issue with the tenderness of it being affected. one point..is to shoot the animal when it is standing…and have a clean immediate kill..if they are running or run after being hit that can make it tougher. so be a good shot :)

deidre_NC

November 10th, 2010
9:33 am

we have such an over-population of deer this year, ive told the boy there is no excuse for us not to have a freezer full of venison!! rabbits too…already have a couple of hogs on the way…:) glad i dont have to pay the huge grocery prices for meat..and the meat we will have will be so much better tasting and healthier.

deidre_NC

November 10th, 2010
9:34 am

and if you put a couple of apples in with the bear meat you are cooking it will take the fat away :)

DB

November 10th, 2010
9:48 am

I’ve never been into hunting, and no one in my family has ever been into hunting. I don’t have a horror of it — just never been exposed to it. And while my neighborhood is pretty “urban-suburban”, we still see lots of deer wandering through, especially at night. Have no idea where they come from, as it is pretty developed around here. But they sure do love to nibble on my flowers . . . grr.

LM

November 10th, 2010
9:52 am

I am not against hunting or raising animals for food. I just can’t touch raw meat. Seriously it wigs me out to smell the blood.

I dont’ hunt, was raised a city kid, but we let frineds use the back of our property to hunt. They were relocated so now we don’t have a hunter to help keep the deer in check.

I got my husband two goats last year for his birthday. They will be for the start of his herd. The only rule is he may not butcher the started herd and he has to cook it. He was raised on a farm and used ot work at a meat plant so it won’t wig him out.

I tried to raise chickens a few years ago. Regretfully it was a complete failur between all the roosters attacking and the hawks and coyotes wipping out the chickens. May try again in a few years and have a chicken tractor to help keep the chickens safe.

TechMom

November 10th, 2010
9:55 am

We don’t hunt but know lots of people who do. One friend owns “hunting property” about 45 minutes from us and we have lots of other friends who belong to hunting clubs (mostly in middle GA- towards Macon). I have no issue with hunting since most hunters eat the meat.

I don’t really see hunting as sport maybe a hobby. I’m actually glad my husband doesn’t hunt. We are friends with some people whose husbands hunt together EVERY weekend. Sure the guys gets to escape to do nothing but their wives are at home resenting their husbands. The wives don’t have an excuse to go off every weekend. At least with my husband the football games eventually end.

HB

November 10th, 2010
10:04 am

I think the meat industry is cruel and barbaric in this country other than some small farms that raise pasture fed cows and free range chickens. I stopped eating meat other than fish (I stick with sustainable seafood) years ago, so it no longer appeals to me, but if it did, I would have no problem eating hunted meat. As others have said, animal populations need to be controlled to prevent starvation. People are far better off eating hunted meat than beef from cows raised inhumanely and pumped up with antibiotics. Like JJ, though, I’m too tenderhearted to do the killing myself, so I’ll keep eating my veggies. :)

BluebellJones

November 10th, 2010
10:28 am

I don’t shoot but killing deer is fine with me-I have too many friends who have hit them. A mental image: driving at night about 50 mph on the interstate, large male deer crosses your path, a bit too slow to avoid being hit. It is not wounded, it’s hurt bad, it’s confused and, because it shattered your windshield, it’s in your car. Kicking and screaming and being all antlery. If you survive this, and people have, you can take it home and eat it. One guy I know hit one, thought it was dead, put it in his car, deer wakes up kicking and screaming and being all antlery.
Deer are vermin. You guys go knock yourselves out. I don’t even care if you eat the darned thing.

Mattie

November 10th, 2010
10:31 am

Every year we have issues with people hunting illegally in the woods surrounding our small neighborhood. Last year one family found a deer stand and entrails at the back of their property. I have no problem with hunting, the deer population around us is a real hazard, but I do have a problem with hunters firing guns so close to my house.

FCM

November 10th, 2010
10:53 am

Michael Smirkonish (Radio 640) was talking about this when hunting season opened. I forget the figures but YES hunters or those applying for a hunting license have been on the decline.

Why? Who knows…..Could be PETA, could be the folks who scream gun control, could be that there is less land undeveloped, could be wives who scream about the hunting season the way some scream about SEC football season, could be that we can go to the Publix or Kroger to get meat–and in some places even get “game” meat and we no longer rely on it. Could be we are lazy. Could be we are over worked. Could be we are busy with soccer. Could be none of these.

FCM

November 10th, 2010
10:56 am

Stupid facts about FCM: I have my hunter’s safety certification. I can fire a shotgun with no issue. I can handle a rifle as well. I have been there to watch them butcher a deer (hunting season) and can tell you that fresh deer liver with brandy on a cold night tastes AWESOME.

I am not however, a hunter—unless you count socks in the dryer, kids missing during chore time….or occassionally a male companion to join me for dinner. ;)

shaggy

November 10th, 2010
11:07 am

BluebellJones the rude troll is back.
He doesn’t cuss, but he sees deer as “vermin” and seems to equate driving and hunting as the same thing.

shaggy

November 10th, 2010
11:11 am

FCM,

Wow, “deer liver with brandy on a cold night tastes AWESOME.”

I am impressed. You do know that doing the fresh liver thing is probably as ancient as hunting itself.

JATL

November 10th, 2010
11:13 am

@Shaggy -don’t feed the trolls! Even when you get a clean kill, age and tenderize them -they taste awful!

shaggy

November 10th, 2010
11:14 am

The hunter who administered the killing strike was honored and ate the first piece of the liver, fresh. It is the most nutritious part and they thought the soul of the animal resided there, so in part, that is how they honored the animal.

Becky

November 10th, 2010
11:18 am

@FCM..Don’t know that I would call these stupid facts as much as useless trivia..I don’t know how to shoot a rifle (could learn), I sure don’t think that I want to be there when a deer is gutted and I don’t have a clue of what “deer liver with brandy” on a cold night would taste like..I like liver, but am not a big fan of brandy..

So basically, I would say that you can take care of yourself and say that (again) there is nothing stupid about these facts, just that they aren’t needed info for everyone to know..

BluebellJones

November 10th, 2010
11:32 am

Cool. I have enemies! This ought to be fun. Whatever I say Shaggy takes out of context in a way only he could then JATL tells him he’s got bad reading comprehension though she may have a worse case. Then they both cuss at me and call me bad names.
I agree with Mattie-while many hunters have been taught hunting safety, there are always a few old boys who like to get drunk and shoot at things that make the branches twitch. Not good if it’s a kid.

Lady Strange

November 10th, 2010
11:34 am

@ MJG – LOL! no we drive every year to Wisconsin and back. We just pack the cooler with lots of ice and frozen venison. Usually my relatives are all out of venison by the time we get up there to visit.

Becky

November 10th, 2010
11:48 am

@Lady Strange..I flew to VA. once with about 15 jars of homemade jelly for my sister..Put them in my carry on bag and (thankfully) had no problem..

Jenn

November 10th, 2010
12:54 pm

My father, husband and now my 16 year old son hunt. I don’t particulary care for the meat but they enjoy it. I think it is a great way for them to build relationships and enjoy the outdoors. When they go, I spend time with my mom and daughters. I also know that it is necessary and helps with the deer population. I don’t think it is a “Georgia” thing.

As a side note, when I was in 7th grade in Gwinnett County (approximately 1977-78) I took outdoor education as an elective. I was one of the only two girls in the class (we were in it to meet the boys!). We learned how to shoot shotguns, rifles, canoe, set up tents, etc… It was a blast. Can you imagine something like that today?

FCM

November 10th, 2010
1:04 pm

shaggy–I was fortunate to grow up with close neighbors who shared their hunting spoils…..The first and foremost thing we were taught was that taking a life is not to be taken lightly. You treat the animal with respect. I still believe that. I have also been painted with the blood of the first deer I helped to dress…but being a female I was spared having to drink it….yes, all ancient to the culture of the hunter.

Becky–I know they didn’t need to be shared, but then on this board we do share all kinds of trivia. I can agree they could be inane trivia about FCM…but I sort of put that out there so folks can skip them if they want.

shaggy

November 10th, 2010
1:28 pm

FCM,
All I can say is “damn right”. You were taught well.

Becky,
These rituals of the hunt really are as old as time itself. I think it is interesting that FCM shared this. If I took her hunting, she would certainly know what to do, unlike a few men that I know ;)

Beck

November 10th, 2010
1:35 pm

Mom2AlexandMax -

Never understood the need to hunt until I visited PA when deer season started one year. It was for my grandfather’s funeral and there were already deer who had impaled themselves on the cemetery fence and were still stuck there. They had been trying to get in to eat the flowers and plants left at graves as there was no foliage left for them.

I will NEVER forget it.

Becky

November 10th, 2010
1:55 pm

Hope I didn’t sound like I was being snippy about that FCM..If I did, not my intention..I know that we share everything (almost) on here, I just didn’t take those as being stupid things..:~)

@shaggy..after reading your post @11:14, ummm..In the past, I had always wanted to go hunting, just never found anyone to actually take me..This was prior to my sister hunting..Still might not mind it, but not real sure if I could eat liver raw..I’ll leave that one to you and I’ll enjoy the cooked vension..((:~))

motherjanegoose

November 10th, 2010
2:21 pm

@becky and ladystrange…the eggs were not the worst thing I have witnessed on board. I once sat next to a pensive lady who had a small tote tucked under the seat in front of her. We hit turbulence and an urn went flying down the aisle. She was beside herself…it was her mother’s ashes and thankfully the container stayed sealed. I cannot imagine having your Mom all over the floor of the airplane!

Becky are we up for lunch next T? I am meeting Michelle next week too!

JJ

November 10th, 2010
2:23 pm

I still hunt for good bargains.

Becky

November 10th, 2010
2:30 pm

@MJG..Tues. is fine..Where and time is all I need..

@JJ..Me too..Found a really good one last night..

FCM

November 10th, 2010
2:40 pm

Becky the liver isn’t raw…it is cooked in the brandy! :)

Shaggy–I cannot think of hunting season without thinking of this boy in HS–I think I was 9th grade. His family did hunt and I still have the note he gave me that he wrote up in the tree stand…it was the first time he didn’t feel like hunting. He described how pretty it was, and cold too, but that he wished his Sat was spent at a movie with me. Very sweet. No idea what happened Chris Harrell…his family moved off…but I have a feeling he is out hunting these weekends.

JJ

November 10th, 2010
2:52 pm

He’s hunting for you FCM – the one that got away…..boy did he blow it, huh???

FCM

November 10th, 2010
3:20 pm

JJ–LOL I doubt I ever cross his mind….I just cannot smell the leaves change in the fall without thinking of him….you know first real HS “romance”…As much romance as trading notes and holding hands in the hall ever are….just one of those sweet things we recall as we get older.

As to blowing it or getting away….well that always reminds me of Robert Frost…and the road less traveled. I could not be FCM if I had walked one of those other paths. Thus, I bring out the nostalgia from time to time, and then we can pack it back in the memory files….and be happy with the fact that the path I am on gave me my daughters.

Becky

November 10th, 2010
3:53 pm

@FCM..Wow, guess I did show my ignorance on that one didn’t I..:~)I could probably deal with it being cooked in brandy..

RoadRage

November 10th, 2010
4:06 pm

I have hunted since I was 4 with my grandfather, father, brothers, uncles, cousins, friends, and now my son. It is as much about the fellowship of family and friends and nature as it is about the game that we seek. Give me a day in the woods over ANY day in the city. It is something that I hope my son will pass down to his children. I too see a diminishing of hunters, in our neighborhood of 280 homes there are less than 5 that hunt. My Dad is still hunting at 85 and will probably die while hunting or while waniting to hunt. Not a bad way to go out I say.

FCM

November 10th, 2010
4:34 pm

Becky–I don’t know that it was ignorant…Maybe I was….I didn’t even think that anyone would consider that it was raw until you said it. The liver I am familar with (deer, beef, goose (pate), and liverwurst) were always cooked. When I saw that you said raw I had a lightbulb moment and said AH! I better tell her it is cooked in the brandy…and still very good with buttered toast on a cold night. It only works when it is very fresh though.

As to snippy–sometimes on here I have a hard time telling…I didn’t take it that way necessarily just thought I should explain why I would state “stupid facts” before I said the various comments after it…Much like the spoiler alerts and other warnings. If I what I wrote back was rude I apologize.

shaggy–one other thing. Some of the hunters did have antlers and even a game head in their dens. In fact my Dad has one. All I know is that everyone of them was killed for something other than a trophy. To my knowledge they are all several decades old as well, certainly none in my recent memory. In my Dad’s case he got a very clean shot and it was presented to him as a gift. It proudly wears a santa hat every Christmas and a tie that play jingle bells. When you consider that the dog gets a jingle bell and colored bow for the season, well…the animals (live and dead)are treated the same in the house. :)

Becky

November 10th, 2010
4:51 pm

@FCM..I think is was shaggy’s post at 11:14 that really made me think that it was eaten raw..As you say though, sometimes I read things on here and think wow, why would they say that? Then when I read it again, it makes more sense..

No, you did not offend me, no apology needed..Have a wonderful evening all..

MaryT

November 10th, 2010
4:55 pm

We went to a wedding somewhere out Hwy 316. The first thing I heard when I got there was that some kid had killed his first deer that morning. Well me being a city girl said, I can’t believe you killed a deer – that’s so mean. Needless to say, this person didn’t speak to me for the rest of the evening. My husband just laughed at me.

Proud Father

November 10th, 2010
9:46 pm

Hello Momania,

You have had some good topics for the last month in which I unfortunatly missed everyone of them. I have a suggestion for a topic, 2 actually.. first, just today a father who stepped up on a bus to confront his daughters bulliers did not get jail time, thnak God. second, the way kids act now a days is horrible and the liberal parents is even worse.

As a proud father of 4 girls, I am an former U.S. Marine and I am fanatical about protecting my daughters. My daughters are 14, 12, 6, and 5. I am 40 yrs old and I can honestly see myself being like that father that got up on the bus. Their are some kids in my apartment complex that sometimes bully my two youngest daughters and their parents hate me and boy I dont care because quite frankly I think they are white trailer trash.

Do a story about how to handle white trash parents who condone their children to be bullys. I always follow the law and teach my daughters to turn their cheek at trailer trash bully kids but I am afraid I might snap one day when it comes to protecting my daughters.

These kids now a days are horrible, where is the parenting now? I heard one 8 year old boy the other day tell his mother that if she continues to yell at him, ground him or spank him that he would tell his teachers that she was abusing him and have them report her to DFACS.. OMG.. if any of my daughters was to say that to me, it would be on like donkey kong.

As far as hunting, it is a good thing to teach your son beause it instills alot of good things such as discipline, patience ect.ect..

Lets have more stories about kids and the screwed up way the act now and as parents how to stop it without going to jail or being reported to DFACS..

One more thing, the black boys that killed that boy the other day at the party.. Sorry they are pure *iggers and obviously have never been parented, guess their parents were to busy smoking crack to be parents. I hope they get the death penalty and die in prison

null

November 11th, 2010
6:48 am

Wow. Proud father is a proud racist. I hope your daughters run away from home before they adopt your sickening views.

shaggy

November 11th, 2010
7:47 am

FCM,

Yes, the ancient hunting ritual was to partake of the fresh, raw liver of the kill. However, I can understand the liver cooked in brandy, modern times version.

There is another interesting “liver” ritual that hit’s closer to humanity, really close. Look up “liver eatin Johnson”, the inspiration for the mountain man movie, “Jerimiah Johnson”, staring Robert Redford. The legendary mountain man hunted and satisfied certain traditions, which inspired his moniker.
Read up on him. He was much more than just the movie script, although they did a good job on the movie. Beautiful setting and mostly accurate portrayal…except the liver thing.

FCM

November 11th, 2010
8:33 am

@shaggy….Smirkonish was reading yesterday from George H.W. Bush’s autobiography…Specificially the part about his having to dump his plane in the drink when he got hit in WWII. Apparently in later year’s he would joke to Barbara that he was lucky he was almost an Hors d’œuvre
since one of the Japense Generals was tried for the war crimes involving pilots and….well I am sure you follow the thought process here.

FCM

November 11th, 2010
8:36 am

Oh and I do know the movie. It is one that my father and I watched many eons ago. :)

BluebellJones

November 11th, 2010
10:04 am

Eat the heart! And the brains. Brains.
Also, Proud Father has nothing to be proud about if he is spreading racism. Proud Hater-may your children grow up straight and tall and be Democrats and better educated than you are. And run away from home.

Proud Mother

November 12th, 2010
4:12 am

Proud Father, good to hear that there are still people out there who are honourable enough to stand up for their families , beliefs and convictions. It is not racist to reject murderers and negligent parents.
Have a huge problem with people who are quick to scream racist, for every little thing. Proud father did not spread racism, he merely conveyed his disgust at unaceptable behaviour. If you are so quick to recognise racism and to make the public attent to it, then maybe you are the one keeping racism alive? Get a grip please, and focus on the real issues that matter, such as protecting your families, raising them as honourable men and woman and God fearing people. A nation that is proud of their country, who will not let the American Dream be stolen by socialism and terrorists. I am proud of you Proud Father and know your daughters are too.

shaggy

November 12th, 2010
6:18 am

This is the really bad side of hunting…morons posing as hunters. Elk are magnificient animals, and to kill and waste their bounty is utterly criminal, in both spiritual and material ways. Apparently, these cretins did this for a while, because they had the money to burn and no soul. It gives the huge majority of ethical hunters a black eye.

Thankfully, i have never come into contact with this kind of hunter, or I would probably end up being locked up for punching them…multiple times.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/wildlife-violations-central-florida-man-accused-of-cutting-1039183.html?cxntlid=cmg_cntnt_rss