Parents: Are you a Disney hater?

Are you a Disney Hater? Do you refuse to take your kids to Disney World, Disney Land or even EuroDisney? Do you hate Disney movies, toys and paraphernalia?

We have several friends with kids that are very anti-Disney, especially the theme parks. You would think their kids were asking their parents to be put on the racks in a torture chamber not ride in honey pots around Pooh’s storybook or fly across the sky with Peter Pan.

The same parents always groan on Facebook when we post photos from our Disney adventures. I have never pressed any of our friends about why they refuse to take their kids to the theme park, but I can make several guesses.

I think maybe they are worried about the commercialism and marketing aimed at their kids. There is no doubt they will be inundated with things their kids will want but we just say no. We bought three stuff animals and two shirts I think on the last trip and that was it.

I guess they also think it’s expensive but all theme parks are expensive — even local ones like Six Flags. One friend reluctantly took their child to Disney and then to Universal. The parent was unbelievably negative about Disney but loved Universal. I think it goes beyond just plain expense; it seems to be a particular aversion to Disney.

I guess it could also be the crowds and the lines but again most theme parks have those, and they can be avoided with a little planning.

I guess I just think the benefits of the Disney outweigh the negatives. The kids have a fantastic time there. They are happy. Everything is aimed at them. It’s all for them. It is magical and they have many wonderful memories of going as I do from childhood.

So all you Disney haters out there, enlighten me. Help me understand what your issues are specifically with the theme parks. How or why are they worse than other theme parks? Why is it a (moral?) struggle to take your children there and indulge in the Disney fantasy for a few days?

Also tell us if you were a Disney hater and went with your kids, how do you feel now? Did it reinforce your hate or could you see the magic?

125 comments Add your comment

Heather

July 21st, 2010
4:53 am

I’ll come out as a Disney-hater.

I hate Mickey’s falsetto. I hate his stupid smile and Minnie’s stupid bow.

Nearly every Disney movie contains the demise of a parent, usually the mother. If the mother doesn’t die *in* the movie, she’s dead before the movie starts. If the parents are still alive, they’re absentee parents.

I hate that Disney has led millions of little girls to believe that being a princess is a good quality and a life goal. Have you noticed that Disney’s only characters of color, Mulan and Pocahontas, have been left out of the “royal” lineup?

I hate that nearly every female Disney “heroine” looks exactly alike: long, flowing hair, big, empty eyes, no nose, white, toothy smile, hourglass figure and teeny-tiny, barely there feet. The fools or foils look the same, too: long, skinny noses, big, googly eyes, fat cheeks and big hindquarters.

I hate that everyone gave Disney credit for adding an African-American princess (like we really needed another princess), but no one mentioned that it took them decades to do it, that Tiana is basically Belle with a suntan, and, hello, they added a black character to MAKE MORE MONEY.

I hate the idea of spending my vacation being dragged through a steamy, hot theme park, surrounded by screaming, vomiting children and frustrated, thoughtless parents. Luckily, my kids hate crowds and lines as much as I do.

I will NEVER set foot in Epcot. If my children want to see the world, we’ll save our money and actually go places, not some faux, prettied up version of what Disney wants the world to believe.

And that’s just the start of it!

DLPFan

July 23rd, 2010
10:52 am

Some fact-checking would have been nice. Disneyland Paris hasn’t been called EuroDisney for 14 years now.

Proud American Indian

July 23rd, 2010
11:30 am

Disney peddles a lot of racism in their films, from Dumbo (antiBlack) to Peter Pan (antiIndian) to Aladdin (anti Arab) to El Dorado (anti Indian again, whitewashing the conquest of Latin America) to Pocahontas (yes it’s anti Indian. The real life Pocahontas was a little girl kidnapped and raped by colonists.)

So as an American Indian, why the hell would I spend lots of money on a racist company like Disney? I’d rather take them to a powwow.

Mark W

July 24th, 2010
9:36 pm

For the record, El Dorado was a Dreamworks film, not Disney…

john

July 25th, 2010
3:06 pm

I have lived in both Australia and Sweden, as well as other states in the U.S. of A. My wife is from Australia, and we have both traveled the world, all around it. We have seen it all, and been to all…
We have four children, and have taken them to Australia, as well as around the U.S., many many times, and they have seen a great deal more than the average child in the U.S.
Thus, we have experienced a great deal. With Disney, well….we went FIVE Times last year, to Disney World, and twice this year (we also spent three weeks in Australia-on a teacher’s salary, mind you-so NOT rich at all…public school teacher, here)
We go to Disney World for a few reasons. It is so clean, so very clean. Important. The employees try rather hard to make all at home, and happ. Important. The attention to detail in EVERYTHING Disney does is most impressive, from each theme park, to each ride, to simply each building. Disney pays a great deal of attention to detail in each building and structure to make each unique. Important. Also, the ease of travel once getting there. I simply hop on a Disney bus, and allow the employees to take me where ever I wish to go, without any added cent. When I go for five or so days, not once do I get into my own car. Important.
Thus, with all of this, the value is second to none. And…I believe that my wife and I enjoy it more than the kids. So, I feel that the Disney “haters” simply don’t appreciate all it has to offer.
And, neither I nor any in family are in any way associated with Disney as an employee. We are members of the Disney Vacation Club, and wish we had joined earlier. Yes, we have still travel elsewhere, but Disney’s attention to customor satisfaction is great. And, we are not brainwashed by Mickey. God is first in all we do….

john

July 25th, 2010
3:10 pm

and by the by, sounds like Heather has a lot of “Hate” in her life. Those people are simply difficult to be around, and will be very hard to please. That is why I avoid people like Heather, due to the negative outlook (”I Hate….I hate…I hate…”) yet pray for her.

Disney dislike

July 25th, 2010
3:35 pm

I’m no Disney hater and we have actually taken our 2 oldest kids there while living in Fla a few years ago, but I definitely don’t like the liberal slant the current Disney corporate direction supports. What really settled it was 4 years ago when we were considering a stop at Disney for a few days while driving to the Keys for an extended stay. I was seconds from booking a very expensive onsite trip when I inquired about the “gay days” event to make sure we wouldn’t be there during it. The agent wouldn’t confirm or deny the event dates so I was leary and researched further and found out we would have been in the middle of it. Unnaceptable for my family, so we stopped at Universal instead a few days after the event on the way home. Have tried to avoid Disney in general since but that’s not hardline, kids still see movies, tv, etc. though I monitor the underlying messages more carefully if I know it involves Disney. Sad because I’ve heard nice things about their cruises and we won’t go now because of that experience. Try Dollywood for a more relaxed theme park experience, we’ve been and it was our second favorite vacation destination after Montana/Wyoming.

Terry Malloy

July 25th, 2010
3:40 pm

Mark W is obviously a bought and paid for Disney pimp, sent over here to do some damage control. Evidence abounds outside of the book he referenced (which, BTW, I have never read, so it couldn’t be MY source) that Walt Disney was a crypto-fascist loathsome human being who treated his employees like the dirt under his wealthy feet. Ever heard of Charles M. Jones? Better known as Chuck, he knew Disney personally and has been quoted on the topic. Do your own research.

Sk8ing Momma

July 25th, 2010
3:45 pm

I’m somewhere in the middle.

1. We take our children to the theme parks (Magic Kingdoms in FL and CA) every once in a while; however, we prefer other theme parks over Disney b/c we find that other parks have more thrilling/exciting rides. We much prefer better rides over the character/marketing-driven Disney. Disney characters have never been “pushed” in my house so my children don’t really care about Mickey and friends; hence, we don’t feel as if we’re in a money pit when we are there b/c my children don’t want/ask for lots of “stuff” (junk, IMO) where we visit.

2. I *really* don’t care for the Disney movies. Most are far too basal or “dumbed down.” The books are even worse and have very little, if any, literary value, IMO. I much prefer my children experience the original stories upon which the are based. For example, Pinocchio is a great read-loud that my children enjoyed. So much is missing from the movie! I’d just as soon skip the film adaptation and stick to the real thing. All that to say, I don’t get my nose out of joint if they watch a Disney film at friend’s house, it is just not our choice for viewing at our house and I know that in the grand scheme of things my children will not suffer irreparable harm from watching a Disney flick.

John

July 25th, 2010
4:02 pm

Where to begin. If you like your culture homegenized (and “culture” is an overstatement), then Disney is for you. Disney is ONLY appropriate for young kids to experience some of their storybook characters in real life. After the age of 5, why bother? If your kid is so stupid as to still believe in fairytales at that age, then think about finding a psychologist to test him/her for mental retardation. From an aethetic standpoint, if you like seeing buildings made of concrete composite, food from cans in their “finest” restaurants, and grown adults masquerading as fairytale heroes, then you ahve no taste. Seriously, take an educational trip to Europe or New York and tour the architectural landmarks and museums. Your kids will be more appreciative when they are older and you can stop the cycle of idiocy upon which the Disney dynasty is founded.

Manny

July 25th, 2010
4:34 pm

We’re Disney lovers over here. When we go to Disney, we eat, sleep, play and stay everything Disney. We also go on a separate vacation… to Orlando.

All politics and everything aside, it’s a fun place for us and we like to go there all the time.

As a matter of fact, we’ll be going on our first Disney cruise this year. We are definitely looking forward to it.

But I do appreciate those people who, for whatever reason, doesn’t like nor wish to ever attend Disney World or anything else Disney. I am not one that will ever try to convince you to go. Because you don’t go, that’s just one less person in the lines.

So for all the Disney haters- Thanks. Stay home. I, for one, really appreciates it.

Atlanta woman

July 25th, 2010
4:51 pm

I have taken my kids 3 times to Disney; however, I have a friend who hates it because of the commercialism aimed at her children.

There’s no need to hate Disney. I don’t really like it, but good grief, I get so tired of people being against things –like they are morally superior to the rest of us.

PS-Theresa- it’s “stuffed animals” not “stuff animals”! ha!

Buena Vista Live

July 25th, 2010
5:30 pm

Disney is what you make of it. You can spend very little (if there is such a thing on vacation) or you can bankrupt yourself. People should go where they want on vacation and spend as much, or as little, as they want. For people to criticize their friends about what they do with their vacation time leads me to believe that those people need to spend a little more time minding their own business. Unless someone is flipping the bill for me and mine, then I really don’t care what they think, and neither should anyone else care about what I think regarding how they spend their time.

Mary

July 25th, 2010
5:42 pm

Went to the original Disneyland in 1956. Even then, then lines were too long. Since then I’ve been to two other theme parks (while visiting the same family in NJ and again in Florida). Much prefer the rivers, oceans, mountains, seashores and museums I visited (and still visit) at a fraction of the cost. Then there’s the whole subject of Uncle Walt and his very distorted world view. I don’t hate him or the folks that flock there, I just wonder where their values are.

twinkletoes

July 25th, 2010
5:45 pm

Walt Disney took 100s of acres of wetlands, orange groves and wild woods and turned it into a paved, overpriced, pocket emptier. I lived at Disney’s front door before it was built. Went there more times w/my kids and international visitors than I could easily tolerate. I am so glad that I no longer have to go or stand around with rude visitors just to take a 20 minute ride. I don’t hate the place, but neither do I love it. And Disney panders to gays? Huh? ONE day a year and that is pandering? Get real! They pander to the almighty $$$ and not much else.

john

July 25th, 2010
5:54 pm

Interestingly,

my children have been to New York city, as well as Washington D.C., Grand Canyon, and beyond, including five trips to Australia in the past 10 years. Along with that, we are foster parents, and experience a wide range of cultural differences, even adopting one who is ….not of our color (we are all the same color, just different shades of God’s skin…)
Yet, we continue to return to Disney due to the great custumer service, as well as the ease. And for someone who has studied at length the history of Walt (currently reading about the Good Neighbor program between South American and Disney in the 1940’s), I am not afraid of him, nor his beliefs, only that he did not pursue our Lord in more of what he did…
Six Flags? Why bother!

john

July 25th, 2010
5:57 pm

And for those who are negative and have only negative things to say, I would ask that you please stay away from Disney World, as your negativity is rather depressing, and a turn off to those who wish to remain positive and want to make life enjoyable for children…. of ALL ages.
I love Donald Duck!

jg

July 25th, 2010
6:03 pm

We did the “Disney Give a Day Get a Day” Program this year and we are heading to Disneyworld next week…..my 14 year old is a little reluctant – as she thinks she won’t find anything she will like. I went to Disney when I was 18 and absolutely fell in love with the Magic Kingdom…..I am hoping she feels the same.

Fred

July 25th, 2010
7:06 pm

I wonder why my posts don’t show up on this blog? Maybe this one will……….

Fred

July 25th, 2010
7:07 pm

Wow, wonder of wonders, it did. Oh well. i’m sure as hell not re-typing the last one. I guess it didn’t fit in lol.

Seen it all

July 25th, 2010
9:19 pm

I know of a case involving a man who spent a little over fifteen years working at ABC Radio in a top-5 market, 14 of which were good years. The last year and a half was under the Disney thumb…he says he should’ve known trouble had arrived during the very first 9-member-unit meeting led by crisp-white-shirted young Disney wags (very Aryan in appearance), who immediately pronounced his entire crew as “cast members” (nee “employees”), then followed up with every other word being, “synergy” (absolutely true!). This guy found an illegally-planted listening device during a time of Union negotiations…then learned his lessons about “principle”, after being harassed, “investigated”, eventually fired for refusing to turn over previous-year Income Tax returns to mgmt. — then being blacklisted, and bargaining-chipped down the river by the Union and his so-called “attorney”. Just try to fight that, along with the all-holy-worship-Disney culture pervading most of the largest American metro areas…how could anyone creating such cute little talking animals be as audace’ as to destroy anyone’s career? “Whistleblower laws”…duly enforced, as long as you have $25K or more to lay in the lap of the “right” attorney. Even Jeffrey Katzenberg’s attorney swore off taking on any more anti-Disney cases around ten years ago…without explaining why. Most people outside any aspects of “the biz” are unaware, but Disney is probably the most anti-family corporation in the country, given what they have done for generations to many long-term employees guilty of independent thought and conscience. Unions?? Yeah, right! All of them are absolutely petrified of Disney. All of us of a certain age remember “The Voice” of Disney, a gentleman by the name of Jack Wagner, who did 99% of the announcing for Disney films, TV and live park promotions for several decades. Jack once mentioned that, without his wife’s astute real estate speculation skills, he would have had no retirement at all. Another friend had a relative who was one of Disney’s original animators. In the ’50s, some of that group reluctantly sold original animation cels at premium prices put the back door, in order to build what retirement funds they could. Also, some will recall Warner Bros. deliberate creation of Daffy as a black duck…an insider’s back-handed slap at Walt’s known racist views. Many companies are all sorts of things: incompetent, careless, clueless, gutless…Disney is nothing short of satanically evil. How’s THAT for reasons to build a better Maustrap????

Dickey Rat

July 25th, 2010
9:25 pm

John (7/25, 4:02PM) for Emperor! “john” (7/25, 5:54 & 5:57PM) for Village Idiot!

Dickey Rat

July 25th, 2010
9:29 pm

Heather I love you! “john” isn’t fit to be your dog.

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