Child sent home for drawing crucifix: What was the teacher thinking?

Editor’s Note: The Associated Press published an update to this story late last night. You will find the updated paragraphs below the original post.

I think we’re going to start a new feature called “What was that teacher thinking?” (It can apply to parents too. It’s a very versatile heading. ) Here’s the first entry:

According to an Associated Press story:

“An 8-year-old boy was sent home from school and ordered to undergo a psychological evaluation after he was asked to make a Christmas drawing and came up with what appeared to be a stick figure of Jesus on a cross, the child’s father said Tuesday.”

“Chester Johnson told WBZ-TV that his son made the drawing on Dec. 2 after his second-grade teacher asked children to sketch something that reminded them of the holiday.”

“Johnson said the teacher became upset when his son said he drew himself on the cross. Johnson, who is black, told WBZ he suspects racism is involved. He said he thinks the school overreacted and wants an apology.”

“Johnson told the Taunton Daily Gazette, which first reported the story on Tuesday, that his son gets specialized reading and speech instruction and has never been violent in school.”

“An educational consultant working with the Johnson family said the teacher was also alarmed when the boy drew Xs for Jesus’ eyes.”

“A call to Johnson was not immediately returned.”

“The boy was cleared to return to school on Dec. 7 after the evaluation found nothing to indicate that he posed a threat to himself or others. But his father said the boy was traumatized by the incident and the school district has approved the family’s request to have the child transferred to another school.”

The father suspects it was racism, but it seems to me more focused on religion.

I feel like we’re missing something from this story. It just doesn’t seem to make sense.

I work in the school classroom and at our church a lot and I have to say I don’t think I would have thought a single thing about a child drawing a crucifix, especially when asked to draw about a Christian holiday. I guess the Xs for the eyes could be a little odd but I don’t think I would send a kid home and order a psychological evaluation. That seems extreme.

Here’s more information on the story. This is the school’s version of what happened from The Associated Press:

TAUNTON, Mass. — A Massachusetts school district on Tuesday night denied a father’s claims that his son was suspended for drawing a stick figure of Jesus on a cross.

The Taunton School District said in a written statement that the second-grade student was never suspended over the sketch and that a drawing circulated to reporters by the boy’s father, Chester Johnson, is not the same one that was discovered by the teacher.

The district also denied that the boy and his classmates had been assigned to draw something that reminded them of Christmas or any other religious holiday.

“This incident occurred nearly two weeks ago, it was handled appropriately, and the school staff and family had been working together in a cooperative and positive manner,” the district said in a statement posted on its Web site.

School officials did not specify any action they took, but said they followed “well-established protocol,” including reviewing the child’s records and consulting with school psychologists.

“It is unfortunate that the actions of our district staff have been classified as “religious” in nature when, in fact, they were based solely on the wellbeing of the student,” the district’s statement said.

What do you think of this incident? Who do you believe — fairly different stories?

Was the teacher right to be alarmed at the drawing of the crucifixion? Would the Xs for eyes freak you out? Should the child have been sent home? Should a psychological evaluation been ordered? Should the teacher and school have to apologize?

65 comments Add your comment

JoDee

December 16th, 2009
7:22 am

When my children came to me complaining that one had wronged the other, I always asked, “And what happened right BEFORE she hit you, kicked you, took your toy, etc?” We don’t know the whole back story or anything about how that child behaved in the classroom up to the point of this story. Having been a teacher for 21 years, I have no doubt that the teacher has seen multiple incidents involving that child which were disturbing and caused her to believe that the child needed psychological support. I’m sure she has had some bizarre conversations with the daddy before, too.

LSH

December 16th, 2009
7:36 am

I agree with JoDee- this is certainly not the first incident with the child and his family. Let’s not forget that the teacher had to take the drawing to the administration and THEY made the decision to send the boy home and order testing. A teacher does NOT have this kind of authority. I’m betting that the child has been working with the school counselor and perhaps the teacher has been cautioned to be watchful for anything strange or bizarre. I’m not saying that this drawing is strange by itself, but perhaps taken into account with a number of other incidents, it could be. The fact that the school is so quick to let the child transfer tells me that they are happy to get rid of him and make him someone else’s problem.

The father is claiming the child is traumatized by this event— seriously?? TRAUMATIZED??? No- “this was a misunderstanding that can be cleared up with a discussion?” No- “sometimes bad things happen to good people?” No- “let’s learn from this situation”— we go straight to traumatized. Again, the father is clearly overreacting himself to this situation and making it worse.

motherjanegoose

December 16th, 2009
7:38 am

Theresa…this is a GREAT idea for an ongoing topic…I cannot wait!

I will check in later as I have appointments this morning.

Has anyone mentioned if this family is a church going family?

JoDee, I for one, am happy to have you join us as I have shared things in the past ( from a teacher’s perspective) and sometimes they are not well received by blog family.

In 21 years, you have seen a lot of situations, have you not? Are there any parents out there who would win the award with glowing honors WHAT WAS THE PARENT THINKING? I know, there are certainly teachers who deserve it too!

Kathy and I talked ( last week) about those parents who are out with their little kids past 10:00 p.m…HELLO? I have already been criticized that these parents may work a late shift and they have tweeked the family schedule to be with their kids…not buying it for everyone but that is just me.

motherjanegoose

December 16th, 2009
7:42 am

ooops…I think Kathy and I actually said late at night and ( to me) that could be anything after 9:00 for little kids. Have a great day all!

Wow!

December 16th, 2009
7:47 am

Here’s a new topic: What was Teresa thinking?! If you read the article that is on the front page of the AJC website, it says that the picture that the father was circulating is not the same picture the child drew. Also, let it be known that teachers look out for their students. well being If he indeed he said that was himself on the cross with crossed out eyes, then it’s not Jesus and it has nothing to do with Christmas. Therefore, the title “What was the teacher thinking?” is not applicable to today’s topic, because it was the child who drew attention to himself with a drawing of himself dead and nailed to a piece of wood. Father was right to have him evaluated. How many people do you know who imagine themselves to be Christ and then draw pictorial representations of such?

Theresa Walsh Giarrusso

December 16th, 2009
7:57 am

wow – I will look for any later version of the story – I am linked to the yesterday’s story –so let me look for it —

MJG – the family had just visited a church with a lot of crucifixes so it seems like maybe they were on his mind.

I do think as I stated above we are missing some pieces to this puzzle.

deidre_NC

December 16th, 2009
7:58 am

i agree there must be more to the story…if not then its wrong..kids should be able to draw their religous perspectives..but i hate to think the teacher got all tore up over a simple cross…i hope to god there is more to this than that…kind of scary if what we read is the whole truth…i gotta go to work…cant wait to read the posts on this…hope a new and true light is shed on this.

Theresa Walsh Giarrusso

December 16th, 2009
7:59 am

There is a new version of the story that published after I wrote this last night — I will add those details into the blog as soon as I get the kids off to school

Here’s the link for now http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/mass-school-denies-suspending-241815.html

Theresa Walsh Giarrusso

December 16th, 2009
8:00 am

news moves fast –

deidre_NC

December 16th, 2009
8:07 am

you know i always wonder how it affects kids when their parents have this ‘everything is racial’ attitude…whether its a ‘everyone is against me bacuse of race” or whether its that the parents are racists…it bothers me. i was raised in a very racial family…and i nor my kids are racists at all…so it can be overcome. it just hurts me that people judge people on their race or religion….and it hurts me that kids pick it up. how can this world ever be different with these attitudes…and how did this father get racism out of this episode…id love to hear the whole true story here

HB

December 16th, 2009
8:10 am

Didn’t the school blog cover this already yesterday?

Anyway, I think the teacher probably did the right thing. If the child said that the picture he drew was of HIMSELF on the cross, then that’s a red flag and having someone talk to him and make sure nothing horrible is going on is a good idea. We’re not talking about expelling him here, and evaluation isn’t a punishment. Not to mention the fact that if she hadn’t and he hurt himself or attacked another child with scissors a few days later, everyone would be saying, “He drew a picture of himself on a cross the other other day, and the teacher didn’t say anything? What was she thinking?!”

cld

December 16th, 2009
8:13 am

I saw this story on 11Alive this morning. I guess they had yesterday’s news (it was the 5:00 a.m. broadcast). They made it sound the same way Theresa’s explanation does: the father claiming that the kids were asked to draw Christmas pictures, and that this is what his son drew. (First of all, the crucifixion is Easter, not Christmas. Sounds like a child who has seen some church images but hasn’t been taught that they mean.)

The updated story linked above sounds very different. If indeed the children were asked to draw Christmas pictures and this is what the child came up with, I think the teacher should have asked him to explain it – and then she would have understood where he was coming from. But if the school’s statement is correct and the children were not asked to make drawings, then it is a bit disturbing to see a drawn perspective of Jesus on the cross. And yes, that would have thrown up some alarm bells for me.

As for the “x” over the eyes . . . that indicates he’s dead. So it does make sense that a child would use that image to convey that the man on the cross is dead (even though the real crucifix doesn’t use it)–isn’t that what we see in cartoons? It’s a little strange to see, but I understand where it came from.

Unfortunately, it sounds like a misguided parent (who may have been told an incorrect story by his son) ran to the local media and painted the school in a very bad light, and now the school has to react . . .

Theresa Walsh Giarrusso

December 16th, 2009
8:13 am

i hope not –

Theresa Walsh Giarrusso

December 16th, 2009
8:14 am

my response is to DB about whether Get Schooled already covered this

cld

December 16th, 2009
8:18 am

Also, a quote from the father in the updated story, says a lot to me. Near the end . . .

“When he seen the crucifixion of Jesus on the cross, that’s what he drew,” Johnson said. “He liked that. That drew his eye.”

Seriously?! The family went to a holiday lights display at a church and it was the image of Jesus handing on the cross that the child “liked”, that “drew his eye”? Umm, hello? Isn’t that a little odd in itself? I’m seven/eight years old, I see all this glitzy Christmas decor, and what I “like” is the crucifix (which apparently I have never seen before?) Sounds like a child who does need to talk to someone, and apparently not his parents.

cld

December 16th, 2009
8:19 am

*hanging* on the cross. I’m changing letters left and right this morning . . . time for a holiday!

JATL

December 16th, 2009
8:36 am

Maybe today’s comment will actually get posted!

I, too, agree with JoDee that there are probably a string of incidents leading up to this decision. As a former teacher, I know most do not go crazy over one drawing. As someone else pointed out, the administration has to make the decisions for suspension and evaluation -not the teacher. As a teacher with ONE drawing or incident on this level for the first time, maybe you ask other’s opinions, make a note, call a parent, but not at this level unless there is a lot of other history.

Unfortunately the race card is constantly paraded by many parents when dealing with white teachers if the parents don’t like the way a decision has gone. I taught in an all-black high school for 4 years, and I was disgusted at how EVERYTHING was “racism” and “discrimination”. I constantly brought up the point that since all of the students were black, and a number of them were receiving As and Bs and not having me constantly call their parents then I must not be a racist (not to mention WHY OH WHY would a racist choose to teach at an all black school?), but that’s the convenient card many like to pull when they have no other basis to stand on. Unfortunately I saw so many of their kids learning this and having some overwhelming sense of entitlement and feeling that tons of respect was owed to them when they had never done anything to earn it (I’m talking about kids who were constant behavior problems; never did school work; skipped lots of classes, etc.). It was always sad and interesting when one of the black teachers had similar problems -either the parents actually jumped on the kids when they wouldn’t for the SAME reasons with a white teacher OR the parents proceeded to deride the black teacher for sucking up to some imaginary white authority. Pitiful.

As far as a kid drawing a crucifix with X eyes -IF it’s the first and only time a slightly disturbing drawing or some work has come from this kid, then this IS an over-reaction. I just have a feeling that is not the case!

getaclue

December 16th, 2009
8:50 am

If your going to google/cut/paste stories for your blog, at least have the decency to google/cut/paste the most recent version, and spellcheck would be nice too….geesh!

Theresa Walsh Giarrusso

December 16th, 2009
8:55 am

dear getaclue — i wrote my story last night — the new story from AP came out after i was logged off — I am updating now –

motherjanegoose

December 16th, 2009
8:57 am

@ get a clue…thanks for the tip ( we all make mistakes here)…
Now one for you:
your should be you’re….

Have fun!

Lori

December 16th, 2009
9:01 am

I think that there is no way anyone could really know why the teacher/school did what they did given that we don’t know the child’s history. But I think there is one interesting fact that no one is really discussing in this group. The child was only 8 years old. Now, if a teenager drew himself in that manner, I think some concern would be warranted. But this was a small child who had just taken a trip and saw some religious statues. He may have simply been confused about what he saw and learned on his trip and was trying to make sense of it. Maybe all he really needed was a little parental guidance about the religious symbols he saw and what they meant. As far as the X’s for eyes – I’ve seen dolls with x’s for eyes in place of buttons or the like. Not saying the child doesn’t have issues, just offering up an alternative theory. I find it hard to believe that a child of 8 years could really be disturbed enough, or even have the emotional context to purposefully create images of the disturbing nature that people suspect.

RJ

December 16th, 2009
9:04 am

@JATL, I disagree with you. That’s what happened in the school in which you worked. My daughter has had several white teachers in her predominantly black school and she has never cried racism, nor have her classmates. It may have a lot to do with the area in which you taught as well. I live in a middle to upper middle neighborhood and these kids are exposed to as much as kids in white communities with the same income. And trust me, black parents complain about black teachers just as much as they do about white. We are called into the office for not liking little Suzy just as much as you are.

On topic, I would like to know the history of the student’s behavior. Also, did the teacher question the student about the drawing. Even if the students were instructed to draw something that reminded them of Christmas, this wouldn’t alarm me unless something else had been going on. The parent is not going to give the entire story and the school is not at liberty to share so we may never know what really happened.

RMH

December 16th, 2009
9:05 am

Theresa, Get Schooled did cover this yesterday, However, I read both blogs and each has a differenct take on things. I am an about to retire teacher with 36 years experience in Georgia public schools and I enjoy them both.

first time poster

December 16th, 2009
9:12 am

Isn’t this what always happens? People hear a story on the news, over react and then the next day more information is added which completely changes the story as it was initially reported. Too funny!

Wayne

December 16th, 2009
9:13 am

Hey look! Something from my part of the world – even if it is the eastern part of the state.

I’m back after a few days off from work. I did catch up on the other topics, and I’d like to say thanks for the kind words.

I have to believe there is more to this story than what we’re seeing. My oldest son recently told another student that he was going to kill him. He’s six, and I didn’t put much credence to it when the teacher talked to me about it – but the school did take it seriously. In this day and age you have to… He wasn’t evaluated, or suspended. He had to go to the “Opportunity Center” and write a letter to the class apologizing for his behavior. He was hitting a rough patch and we’ve addressed it but that is a much more reasonable response to a first ‘offense’. There just has to be more to it than what we have here.

Jesse's Girl

December 16th, 2009
9:15 am

Oh dera Lord…why does everything have to be freakin racial? Maybe your kid is just f-ed up….ever consider that? Maybe, just maybe a psyche eval isn’t such a bad idea! Then again…maybe the whole thing is being completely misunderstood. Either way….schools don’t just suspend students for no reason at all. It may be discovered later that….given hindsight….it was an overly protective reaction. But a school cannot afford to stop everything and tend to ONE student’s issues. Sometimes, a suspension is required to ascertain what truly happend and what needs to be done. Honestly…if my child drew that, I’d have a raised eyebrow. And where is the drawing that the school said he “actually” did? Good Lord…..PC gone off the deep end again.

removed it

December 16th, 2009
9:39 am

My child was in trouble last year for writing that she hated her teacher. She did not threaten harm to the teacher just wrote that she hated her. She was in therapy at the time and since expressing anger in healthy ways was the goal, her THERAPIST told her to write her feelings down, put the paper away and discuss them later with a “safe” person (a parent, the therapist, school counselor, etc). The SCHOOL was aware of this, in fact I brought it up when they SUSPENDED my child — it was seen as a threat against the teacher.

I went to the school, I said we have been dealing with this for months. The THERAPIST has shown you documented proof that this child and this teacher are at odds…even if only in the childs mind. We have shown you what we are to do. Now because she did what she was told, instead of aruguing with the teacher like in the past, you punish her? Where is the sense in that? We FINALLY got the child removed from that teacher’s class–and she did remarkably better and this year has improved even more.

Of course it didn’t help that I thought the teacher in question is looney and should not be allowed near children. Unfortunately the school board disagreed and the witch is still teaching.

The above is a good example of a School doing WRONG.

Now, with what I have read on this child in the blog, it looks like the parents are OPPOERTUNISTS. The child may or may not have been told to draw something about the holidays. This is not hard to believe as I have more pictures of snowpeople, gingerbread houses, elves, etc than I have room on my fridge — many brought home from school. It is possible that the child drew a crucifixtion scene if he is at a point of understanding. Especially being Catholic, with the crucifix being more central than just a cross (in Protestant culture). In these depictions Jesus is shown with his eyes closed. The child has likely seen cartoons with the “x” eyes as death. Of course he would combine the two.

This picture was not a threat, or a hostile move. It was cause for the School to notify the parents. The school should ask that the child be spoken to by a 3rd party so that any potential for self harm, or harm to others is identified. The school should work with the PARENTS to monitor the child, his drawings, etc to make sure an underlying issue is not present.

It is VERY likely from the facts presented that child is in a crucial question period of his faith. It is up to the PARENTS to guide this child through this, but think it does not impact other aspects of the child is wrong.

The school (both for my child and this child) should NOT have suspended the child, unless a real threat to the child’s or school’s safety was established…an excused absence for evaluation would be warrented.

I have learned to talk to the school. I tell them things that could potential throw curves into my child’s well being. It could be illness in the family, a death of a pet, or even a car accident they saw. If I see it effecting my child, I let the school know. The School seems very receptive to this openess.

Michelle

December 16th, 2009
10:37 am

I’m sure there is A LOT more to the story than is being shared by either side! The x’s for eyes don’t bother me at all. It is a common sign of a “dead” person, and Christ died on the cross.

The truth probably lies somewhere on the other “side” of the triangle (the child’s/father’s side, the school’s side and the REAL side)! As you know, if a child feels like he is going to get into trouble, he will tell the parent a totally different story!

LIke removed it, I try to keep a VERY open line of communication with the teachers/school if something is happening that I think could be affecting my child!

JJ

December 16th, 2009
10:53 am

There just HAS to be something more to the story. There is a picture of the drawing here on AJC. Could the “X”s quite possibly be the Crown of Thorns? They don’t look like eyes to me.

And this drawing should NOT have gotten that child suspended or into psychological testing. There’s something more to this story…….

Michelle

December 16th, 2009
11:13 am

JJ from what I understand, the picture the dad is showing is NOT the picture that the school has!

new mom

December 16th, 2009
11:28 am

A lot of this craziness would be avoided if people would just talk to each other. What if the teacher had called the parent and asked them what they thought might be going on? The parent’s explanation may have made enough sense to avoid all this drama–why did the teacher immediately send the child home and call in a psychologist? And why didn’t the parent try to contact the teacher before freaking out and calling the media? Why can’t adults be adults and have a mature conversation?

Wayne

December 16th, 2009
11:40 am

New Mom: ain’t that the truth!? Everyone is sooo sensitive that the first reaction is most likely the inappropriate one. Communication is key. We see the kids teachers about once a week – just a hallway hihowareyou? But if something needs to be brought up (which has happened occasionally) we take care of it. We, being the teacher, and us, the parents. No need to get so excited about ’stuff’. Sheesh, they are 6 and 3! Do they really need to be in the news?

penguinmom

December 16th, 2009
11:54 am

If the child really got sent home because he drew a cross with Jesus on it, that would be absurd. As someone else said, the x’s indicate the person is dead. Even if the child was picturing himself on the cross, that is not disturbing enough to warrant sending him home. It sounds like he has some educational issues anyway so perhaps he was trying to say something about his sin being on the cross.

mjg – side note: Our kids are often out past 10pm. We homeschool and work from home so don’t have any specific reason to have them in bed early. We sleep later than most. When my kids are out past 9pm they aren’t cranky though because that’s their normal schedule. (and, yes we have done this since they were infants so they were out late as babies as well.) Also, I think staying up late may sometimes be a cultural thing. I’ve noticed the Hispanics in my area often have children’s birthday parties that start at 9pm.

jct

December 16th, 2009
11:56 am

I don’t see how any of us can reasonably discuss this issue. We basically have sound bites. Things we don’t know – how many times has this child been in trouble; is there an existing conflict between the parent/teacher; is the a conflict between the child/teacher; what did the child say to the teacher; did the teacher speak with the parent; was the child really sent home; if so, was this the real reason.

I reserve my comments about how I feel or don’t feel until I get further information. There is bound to be way more information that has not been released about this. I guess it is a slow news day. I guess Tiger (or his family) haven’t done anything interesting today. (sheesh!)

penguinmom

December 16th, 2009
12:00 pm

okay, the other thing in the story. How silly is it that the school felt the need to state that the kids had not “been assigned to draw something that reminded them of Christmas or any other religious holiday.” Seriously? The kids can’t even draw Christmas pictures now? How about Santa or trees or presents? Those wouldn’t have been about a “religious” holiday.
If that is the immediate response of the school, it wouldn’t surprise me if a cross might freak them out a little.

New Mom: I agree, it would be nice if everyone involved (teacher, parents, admin) could just act with a little intelligence and common sense.

catlady

December 16th, 2009
12:16 pm

Even without seeing the “evidence” I go with the school’s account.

Wayne

December 16th, 2009
12:17 pm

@catlady: I’m curious – why?

JJ

December 16th, 2009
12:33 pm

You are correct, we don’t know the entire situation. We are just given bits and pieces from that wonderful media.

JJ

December 16th, 2009
1:16 pm

Theresa, any way we can get a FUN topic for Friday? Something totally mindnumbing………or maybe we could to a blog about everyone’s favorite christmas traditions or memories……let’s have some fun……

Becky

December 16th, 2009
1:32 pm

@catlady, I’m wondering also why? The teacher isn’t always right..Many years ago, when I was in high school, there was a teacher that no one liked..One day, she hauled about 5-6 girls to the principals office to say that she caught them in the bathroom smoking..I was one of them..Didn’t smoke then and never have in my entire 47 years..She told the principal that I had a cigarette in my mouth..Needless to say, I was the principals aide and she knew that I did not smoke..Teacher was P.O.ed to the max that I didn’t get in trouble..By the time that my Mother was through “talking” to this teacher, she apologized to all of the girls..

@Wayne, welcome back and hope that you enjoyed your time off from work..

oneofeach4me

December 16th, 2009
1:37 pm

@newmom those are great questions. I can tell you from converstations with my kids’ teachers that if the parent doens’t seak to them much, just drops the kid off and runs out, and picks them up and runs out (we are talking daycare here) and if (for school age kids) the parent’s are invited time and time again to different happenings in the classroom and never show nor send a note of communication then the teacher doesn’t feel like there is a connection. When the teacher senses something disurbing they are going to go where there is a connection. Which is why like removedit I tell the schools/teachers as much as I can about what my child is going through. And you know what.. I like it that way and I think it also makes the teachers feel more welcoming to the child and WAY more understanding when they have outbursts.

On the other hand, she (the teacher) may have went to the administration first due to the fact she may have felt as though there was abuse or something of the sort going on in the household. In other words, there is more to the story still……

cld

December 16th, 2009
2:01 pm

@penguimom: The school’s statement about the children not being asked to draw Christmas pictures, was a direct response to the father’s statement that they HAD been. It was basically a “no, they weren’t”. It helps the school build their picture (excuse the pun) that the student drew the image unprovoked; whereas the father is saying his son was asked to draw a Christmas picture and this is what he drew.

new mom

December 16th, 2009
2:07 pm

oneofeach4me–you are so right! Communication is a two-way street, but if the parent doesn’t foster it from the beginning, it’s hard for a teacher to go out of the way to do so. (I taught 5th grade one long, horrible year, and had some parents that I literally never spoke to or met the entire year!) Teachers don’t have time to keep chasing down every parent…I just wish that people in general would try to communicate with others before jumping off the deep end, making a mountain ouf of a molehill, as my dad used to say.
And agreed, we don’t have the full story here. I guess my problem is that it IS a story we’re discussing, it seems like it could have been handled much more maturely and kept out of the papers, for the child’s sake.

Amy

December 16th, 2009
2:10 pm

Seriously, this is a topic for a MOM blog? This is a school topic and it was covered there.

MOVE ON.

catlady

December 16th, 2009
2:13 pm

I MADE A COGENT, REASONED RESPONSE BUT IT DID NOT APPEAR ALMOST 2 HOURS AGO.

motherjanegoose

December 16th, 2009
2:24 pm

@ Theresa…can every day just be a FUN topic? it would be so much easier if life was always FUN…wouldn’t it? Sorry to report that mine is not…LOL….
@Wayne….glad you made it back on, hope you were not nauseated with yesterday’s topic.

Photius

December 16th, 2009
2:27 pm

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Wayne

December 16th, 2009
2:46 pm

Yesterday was… interesting…

Becky

December 16th, 2009
3:09 pm

@Amy, why wouldn’t it be a Mom blog?

Theresa Walsh Giarrusso

December 16th, 2009
3:14 pm

cat lady — I’ll go dig it up — I was at the grocery story — sorry~