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	<title>Comments on: Should students forget the classics, choose own books?</title>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 03:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with some of the comments that a mix of required classics and personal choices may be a good idea. Most of the class time should be spent on the good literature, but there is no harm in encouraging kids to read on their own outside of class and giving a little credit for it.
 It&#039;s a little like food: of course they need to read great literary works, just like they need to eat their vegetables and whole grains. There is no harm in having ice cream or Doritos once in a while, but letting kids read only what they like is the intellectual equivalent of feeding them cupcakes for every meal. There are too many adults now who never read anything better than the trashy magazines they pick up in the checkout line at Wal-mart. As a result, they end up with weak, unhealthy minds to match their bodies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with some of the comments that a mix of required classics and personal choices may be a good idea. Most of the class time should be spent on the good literature, but there is no harm in encouraging kids to read on their own outside of class and giving a little credit for it.<br />
 It&#8217;s a little like food: of course they need to read great literary works, just like they need to eat their vegetables and whole grains. There is no harm in having ice cream or Doritos once in a while, but letting kids read only what they like is the intellectual equivalent of feeding them cupcakes for every meal. There are too many adults now who never read anything better than the trashy magazines they pick up in the checkout line at Wal-mart. As a result, they end up with weak, unhealthy minds to match their bodies.</p>
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		<title>By: motherjanegoose</title>
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		<dc:creator>motherjanegoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ FCM....instilling dignity in those who have little to be proud of would help so much! 

 Furthermore when families ,who are often not proud of their own accomplishments, have oodles of children....do they know how to raise them in an environment that rewards positive steps in the right direction or tackling something difficult such as literature. 

 I see children all over the country and I am apprehensive about the future.  Either children who have no drive or those who are overindulged and do not know how to work or think for themselves. 

Those that do not have anything expect those that DO to pass it down and take care of them.  How can we get the multitude to want something bad enough that they will work hard and get it themselves?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ FCM&#8230;.instilling dignity in those who have little to be proud of would help so much! </p>
<p> Furthermore when families ,who are often not proud of their own accomplishments, have oodles of children&#8230;.do they know how to raise them in an environment that rewards positive steps in the right direction or tackling something difficult such as literature. </p>
<p> I see children all over the country and I am apprehensive about the future.  Either children who have no drive or those who are overindulged and do not know how to work or think for themselves. </p>
<p>Those that do not have anything expect those that DO to pass it down and take care of them.  How can we get the multitude to want something bad enough that they will work hard and get it themselves?</p>
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		<title>By: FCM</title>
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		<dc:creator>FCM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MJG it is likely that those that you described are not reading, nor do they have much schooling.   On the other hand there are still people like the ones Hortio Alger wrote about in this world too.   (For those unfamilar with Alger&#039;s work:  juvenile novels that followed the adventures of bootblacks, newsboys, peddlers, buskers, and other impoverished children in their rise from humble backgrounds to lives of respectable middle-class security and comfort).

One thing we could do is stop allowing the people you mention to play the &#039;victim&#039;.   Since when is it respectable to have several children and then not take care of them or to think teen pregnancy should be lauded?   

The other side is maybe you should prove you have a GED or HS Diploma to be able to vote!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MJG it is likely that those that you described are not reading, nor do they have much schooling.   On the other hand there are still people like the ones Hortio Alger wrote about in this world too.   (For those unfamilar with Alger&#8217;s work:  juvenile novels that followed the adventures of bootblacks, newsboys, peddlers, buskers, and other impoverished children in their rise from humble backgrounds to lives of respectable middle-class security and comfort).</p>
<p>One thing we could do is stop allowing the people you mention to play the &#8216;victim&#8217;.   Since when is it respectable to have several children and then not take care of them or to think teen pregnancy should be lauded?   </p>
<p>The other side is maybe you should prove you have a GED or HS Diploma to be able to vote!</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree about the Shakespeare.  It was pretty dry when I had to read it.  Of course, every play I had to read was drier than Georgia was last year because the teacher usually had us choose roles, but nobody ever read it in the way it was supposed to be read.  We read it as if we were reading a passage out of our History or Biology textbooks.  The only teacher that did anything right was my 12th grade English teacher, who had us listen to a record with professional actors reciting the lines from &quot;MacBeth&quot;.  Yes, I said it.  It was so that we could get the true feeling of the play, something you can&#039;t get when you have a few students reading the lines.  If someone tried to act it out, or make it sound the way it was supposed to sound, they were laughed at.  I also remember the teacher taking us to the Shakespeare Tavern in Atlanta where we saw &quot;Much Ado About Nothing.&quot;  As far as plays go, the best way to enjoy them is to watch them, regardless of the adaptation.  Of course, you&#039;ll want to see the play in its original context, before seeing any modernized or reworked version (&quot;10 Things I Hate About You&quot; being a reworking of &quot;The Taming Of The Shrew&quot;), in order to understand where the modernized or reworked version got its inspiration. 

The only other way is if you can find a summarized version of the play, where the plot is pretty much rewritten as a short story.  I have a book that did that with a lot of Shakespeare&#039;s plays, that I found in my great-granddad&#039;s house when my parents and I cleaned it out back in the Summer of 1997.  I kept it, knowing that we&#039;d be studying Shakespeare, and that it might come in handy in other ways.  I loaned it to my English teacher, who used it to make copies of the short story version of &quot;Much Ado&quot;, and gave me extra credit for letting her borrow it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree about the Shakespeare.  It was pretty dry when I had to read it.  Of course, every play I had to read was drier than Georgia was last year because the teacher usually had us choose roles, but nobody ever read it in the way it was supposed to be read.  We read it as if we were reading a passage out of our History or Biology textbooks.  The only teacher that did anything right was my 12th grade English teacher, who had us listen to a record with professional actors reciting the lines from &#8220;MacBeth&#8221;.  Yes, I said it.  It was so that we could get the true feeling of the play, something you can&#8217;t get when you have a few students reading the lines.  If someone tried to act it out, or make it sound the way it was supposed to sound, they were laughed at.  I also remember the teacher taking us to the Shakespeare Tavern in Atlanta where we saw &#8220;Much Ado About Nothing.&#8221;  As far as plays go, the best way to enjoy them is to watch them, regardless of the adaptation.  Of course, you&#8217;ll want to see the play in its original context, before seeing any modernized or reworked version (&#8221;10 Things I Hate About You&#8221; being a reworking of &#8220;The Taming Of The Shrew&#8221;), in order to understand where the modernized or reworked version got its inspiration. </p>
<p>The only other way is if you can find a summarized version of the play, where the plot is pretty much rewritten as a short story.  I have a book that did that with a lot of Shakespeare&#8217;s plays, that I found in my great-granddad&#8217;s house when my parents and I cleaned it out back in the Summer of 1997.  I kept it, knowing that we&#8217;d be studying Shakespeare, and that it might come in handy in other ways.  I loaned it to my English teacher, who used it to make copies of the short story version of &#8220;Much Ado&#8221;, and gave me extra credit for letting her borrow it.</p>
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		<title>By: motherjanegoose</title>
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		<dc:creator>motherjanegoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@FCM  and unfortunately the uneducated masses are reproducing faster than the rest and is there any hope?

We have had many discussions about healthcare in our family.  I am all for helping the less fortunate IF THEY CANNOT HELP THEMSELVES.  Does anyone think many of those with generations on welfare are sitting around reading ( with all of their spare time)  or are they watching their big screens?  HOW do we get these folks to want to read?

I am livid over what my son has shared with us about uninsured individuals filling acne medication for FREE since the government is paying for it.  Is this a life or death situation? If Rogaine were a prescription, would it be necessary?  There are many insured folks who cannot afford to go to the dermatologist and get a $500 prescription WITH a $70 co pay. 

I cannot figure out the craziness of this mess.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@FCM  and unfortunately the uneducated masses are reproducing faster than the rest and is there any hope?</p>
<p>We have had many discussions about healthcare in our family.  I am all for helping the less fortunate IF THEY CANNOT HELP THEMSELVES.  Does anyone think many of those with generations on welfare are sitting around reading ( with all of their spare time)  or are they watching their big screens?  HOW do we get these folks to want to read?</p>
<p>I am livid over what my son has shared with us about uninsured individuals filling acne medication for FREE since the government is paying for it.  Is this a life or death situation? If Rogaine were a prescription, would it be necessary?  There are many insured folks who cannot afford to go to the dermatologist and get a $500 prescription WITH a $70 co pay. </p>
<p>I cannot figure out the craziness of this mess&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: FCM</title>
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		<dc:creator>FCM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 10:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MJG--some of us would rather not point out Socialist concepts (like the one Unfortunate gave)...there are enough of those being espoused right now.     Uncle Joe certainly did exactly what Unfortunate is suggesting and we all know the USSR did so well with it for decades!  

People need to read to be educated.   You will not be educated in school--ok you will be given the basics, but they do NOT encourage you to think.   Heck, the current school system doesn&#039;t even encourage teachers to think...just to do and of course get those National Scores!   A person has to take responsibility for their own learning.    Educated/Learned masses are the best resources we can get for our country.     Uneducated masses, are great for pulling levers at the polls and doing what they are told.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MJG&#8211;some of us would rather not point out Socialist concepts (like the one Unfortunate gave)&#8230;there are enough of those being espoused right now.     Uncle Joe certainly did exactly what Unfortunate is suggesting and we all know the USSR did so well with it for decades!  </p>
<p>People need to read to be educated.   You will not be educated in school&#8211;ok you will be given the basics, but they do NOT encourage you to think.   Heck, the current school system doesn&#8217;t even encourage teachers to think&#8230;just to do and of course get those National Scores!   A person has to take responsibility for their own learning.    Educated/Learned masses are the best resources we can get for our country.     Uneducated masses, are great for pulling levers at the polls and doing what they are told.</p>
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		<title>By: FCM</title>
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		<dc:creator>FCM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 10:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an avid reader.    Growing up my parents had a rule that for every 2 books of my choosing I had to read a classic.   At first they could all be fiction.   Eventually it was for every 2 books of fiction I had to read a book of non-fiction.

I agree with those who said a mix of the two would work well.   Classics like Little Women, Fahrenheit 451, Wuthering Heights, and Tom Sawyer are a must.   Newer books like Animal Farm, The Lord of the Rings, Anne Frank, Jurassic Park,  and Gone With the Wind.

The problem is there are SO many works that are great, that a child (or adult) will have to venture out  to discover most of them on their own.   Little House, Harry Potter, The Hitchhiker&#039;s Guide to the Galaxy, The Last Battle....these should not be shove aside just because we need to expose the child to  Old Man and the Sea, The Odyssey, To Kill a Mockingbird, or Dante&#039;s Inferno.

Some reading like Shakespeare will ALWAYS be dry...because Shakespeare didn&#039;t write it for people to read.    Let them see the movie...even the DiCaprio or Gibson ones, and save them the reading time for another good book.     Then have them compare and contrast it to any other book (Twilight comes to mind with Romeo and Juliet) of their choosing that interests them and can be compared.   

On the other hand their are classics I had to force myself through:  The Great Gatsby,  Watership Down, Of Mice and Men, Grapes of Wrath, Jane Eyre, Pride and Prejudice.   Am I better person for having read them--who knows!--the best I have found is that I know what the speaker is referring to when they are referenced--but who cares!   There are tons of things that are referenced in conversation I later have to look up...it would be impossible for me to know everything.

The best that any teacher (or parent) can hope for is to spark a life long love affair with books.   By allowing a mixture we can best hope to achieve that goal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an avid reader.    Growing up my parents had a rule that for every 2 books of my choosing I had to read a classic.   At first they could all be fiction.   Eventually it was for every 2 books of fiction I had to read a book of non-fiction.</p>
<p>I agree with those who said a mix of the two would work well.   Classics like Little Women, Fahrenheit 451, Wuthering Heights, and Tom Sawyer are a must.   Newer books like Animal Farm, The Lord of the Rings, Anne Frank, Jurassic Park,  and Gone With the Wind.</p>
<p>The problem is there are SO many works that are great, that a child (or adult) will have to venture out  to discover most of them on their own.   Little House, Harry Potter, The Hitchhiker&#8217;s Guide to the Galaxy, The Last Battle&#8230;.these should not be shove aside just because we need to expose the child to  Old Man and the Sea, The Odyssey, To Kill a Mockingbird, or Dante&#8217;s Inferno.</p>
<p>Some reading like Shakespeare will ALWAYS be dry&#8230;because Shakespeare didn&#8217;t write it for people to read.    Let them see the movie&#8230;even the DiCaprio or Gibson ones, and save them the reading time for another good book.     Then have them compare and contrast it to any other book (Twilight comes to mind with Romeo and Juliet) of their choosing that interests them and can be compared.   </p>
<p>On the other hand their are classics I had to force myself through:  The Great Gatsby,  Watership Down, Of Mice and Men, Grapes of Wrath, Jane Eyre, Pride and Prejudice.   Am I better person for having read them&#8211;who knows!&#8211;the best I have found is that I know what the speaker is referring to when they are referenced&#8211;but who cares!   There are tons of things that are referenced in conversation I later have to look up&#8230;it would be impossible for me to know everything.</p>
<p>The best that any teacher (or parent) can hope for is to spark a life long love affair with books.   By allowing a mixture we can best hope to achieve that goal.</p>
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		<title>By: DB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 05:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HB - my favorite assignment in high school senior English was re-writing Robert Browning&#039;s &quot;My Last Duchess&quot; as a work of fiction.  I loved it, and went on for 36 pages -- I couldn&#039;t stop! 

My only problem with letting children get away with reading solely what they feel like reading is that often what they choose to read may not be challenging or even enduring. Kids being kids, they often take the past of least resistence, in the face of all the other demands on their time and attention. I do think that a person cannot make a claim to being well-educated if they don&#039;t have some passing acquaintance with the classics and to be able to recognize references, themes and allusions to those classic works.  

My daughter and I were talking about something the other day, and suddenly, she exclaimed, &quot;Dorothy didn&#039;t have RUBY slippers -- they were SILVER -- umm, weren&#039;t they?&quot;  I assured her that yes, indeed, in the original books, Dorothy&#039;s shoes were silver, but they made them ruby to make &#039;em &quot;pop&quot; more in the new Technicolor process. This led to a long discussion of the differences between literature and the motion picture adaptations (including my distain for the Keira Knightly version of &quot;Pride &amp; Prejudice&quot; . . . don&#039;t get me started!) And while I don&#039;t equate Nicholas Sparks with &quot;literature&quot;, my daughter finally understood why I &lt;i&gt;loathed&lt;/i&gt; the movie adaptation -- AFTER she read the book! When she had to read a book for English, I never let her see the movie until she had read the book.  I have a miniseries of Jane Eyre that she actually found helpful to understanding some of the undertones she had missed. And, of course, we had a good laugh at Olivia Hussey not being allowed to go to the premier of &quot;Romeo and Juliet&quot; because she was too young for the &quot;R&quot; rating that her nudity earned the movie . . . in other words, she was too young to look at her own breasts!:-D

@Denise -- LMAO at the &quot;horror&quot; of &quot;The Color Purple.&quot;  My mother was equally horrified when I was discovered, at age 8, hiding in the attic eagerly devouring &quot;Rosemary&#039;s Baby&quot;!  I have to admit, at 8, I was so innocent that I never really quite grasped exactly how Rosemary got pregnant, despite the fairly explicit description of her impregnation. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HB &#8211; my favorite assignment in high school senior English was re-writing Robert Browning&#8217;s &#8220;My Last Duchess&#8221; as a work of fiction.  I loved it, and went on for 36 pages &#8212; I couldn&#8217;t stop! </p>
<p>My only problem with letting children get away with reading solely what they feel like reading is that often what they choose to read may not be challenging or even enduring. Kids being kids, they often take the past of least resistence, in the face of all the other demands on their time and attention. I do think that a person cannot make a claim to being well-educated if they don&#8217;t have some passing acquaintance with the classics and to be able to recognize references, themes and allusions to those classic works.  </p>
<p>My daughter and I were talking about something the other day, and suddenly, she exclaimed, &#8220;Dorothy didn&#8217;t have RUBY slippers &#8212; they were SILVER &#8212; umm, weren&#8217;t they?&#8221;  I assured her that yes, indeed, in the original books, Dorothy&#8217;s shoes were silver, but they made them ruby to make &#8216;em &#8220;pop&#8221; more in the new Technicolor process. This led to a long discussion of the differences between literature and the motion picture adaptations (including my distain for the Keira Knightly version of &#8220;Pride &amp; Prejudice&#8221; . . . don&#8217;t get me started!) And while I don&#8217;t equate Nicholas Sparks with &#8220;literature&#8221;, my daughter finally understood why I <i>loathed</i> the movie adaptation &#8212; AFTER she read the book! When she had to read a book for English, I never let her see the movie until she had read the book.  I have a miniseries of Jane Eyre that she actually found helpful to understanding some of the undertones she had missed. And, of course, we had a good laugh at Olivia Hussey not being allowed to go to the premier of &#8220;Romeo and Juliet&#8221; because she was too young for the &#8220;R&#8221; rating that her nudity earned the movie . . . in other words, she was too young to look at her own breasts!:-D</p>
<p>@Denise &#8212; LMAO at the &#8220;horror&#8221; of &#8220;The Color Purple.&#8221;  My mother was equally horrified when I was discovered, at age 8, hiding in the attic eagerly devouring &#8220;Rosemary&#8217;s Baby&#8221;!  I have to admit, at 8, I was so innocent that I never really quite grasped exactly how Rosemary got pregnant, despite the fairly explicit description of her impregnation. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 01:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HB:  Now that would be a great idea re having the students do their own reworks.  Have them write the story how they think it should have played out.  I vaguely remember a teacher giving us a similar assignment one year.  She told us to put ourselves in the shoes of the main character, or any character in the story.  How would you have played it out?  What would you have done?  Would you do the same thing (character) did?  Have you ever found yourself in a similar situation to that character?  It can really get the creative juices flowing.

One thing I do remember having to do one year was my English teacher asked us write a letter to her as a character in one of the books we read.  We were to describe what happened to us throughout the book, without directly quoting the book.  We were to say what we did, where we did it, who we did it with (or to), why we did it, how we did it, and when it was done.    We could choose to be the main character, or any character that had a significant role in the story.  For example, if one of us had read &quot;The Adventures of Tom Sawyer&quot;, we could have written the letter as Tom, Huck, (which would have been odd, since neither one could really read or write very well), Aunt Polly, Becky Thatcher, or anyone else that had a significant role in the book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HB:  Now that would be a great idea re having the students do their own reworks.  Have them write the story how they think it should have played out.  I vaguely remember a teacher giving us a similar assignment one year.  She told us to put ourselves in the shoes of the main character, or any character in the story.  How would you have played it out?  What would you have done?  Would you do the same thing (character) did?  Have you ever found yourself in a similar situation to that character?  It can really get the creative juices flowing.</p>
<p>One thing I do remember having to do one year was my English teacher asked us write a letter to her as a character in one of the books we read.  We were to describe what happened to us throughout the book, without directly quoting the book.  We were to say what we did, where we did it, who we did it with (or to), why we did it, how we did it, and when it was done.    We could choose to be the main character, or any character that had a significant role in the story.  For example, if one of us had read &#8220;The Adventures of Tom Sawyer&#8221;, we could have written the letter as Tom, Huck, (which would have been odd, since neither one could really read or write very well), Aunt Polly, Becky Thatcher, or anyone else that had a significant role in the book.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachs Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zachs Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love to read and so do my parents.  Zachary will probably never read a book from the beginning to the end.  I read to him when he was a baby all the way up through the middle of elementary school.  I know that he CAN read because he test above grade level in school.  He just WON&#039;t.  He has such a short attention span that if take longer that 10-15 minutes to read, you can forget it.  We tell him all the time about the things that he is missing out on and he doesn&#039;t seem to care.

It&#039;s hard to have a non-reader in a reading family.  Maybe one day...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love to read and so do my parents.  Zachary will probably never read a book from the beginning to the end.  I read to him when he was a baby all the way up through the middle of elementary school.  I know that he CAN read because he test above grade level in school.  He just WON&#8217;t.  He has such a short attention span that if take longer that 10-15 minutes to read, you can forget it.  We tell him all the time about the things that he is missing out on and he doesn&#8217;t seem to care.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to have a non-reader in a reading family.  Maybe one day&#8230;</p>
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