Study:25 percent low-income kids having sex; average age 12

A new study of 1,000 low-income families in three major U.S. cities found that one in four children between the ages of 11 and 16 reported having sex, with their first sexual intercourse experience occurring at the average age of 12.77.

The Iowa State University news services reports:

” ‘So if 12 years was the average age here, that meant that some kids were starting at 10 or younger,’ said Brenda Lohman, an Iowa State University associate professor of human development and family studies (HDFS). ‘A handful of kids reported having sex as early as 8 or 9. We know from our follow-up interviews that one boy who reported having sexual intercourse for the first time at age nine had fathered four children by the time he was 18.’

“In the study, boys reported their first sexual intercourse at younger ages (averaging 12.48) than girls (13.16). Boys also had nearly 10 percent higher frequency of intercourse than girls.”

“Recent national research has found that 13 percent of girls and 15 percent of boys have had sex by the time they’re 16. Lohman says that means the rate of sex among her low-income sample is only slightly higher among the girls, but almost double among the boys.”

“African Americans also had 12 percent more early sexual intercourse than whites (29 to 17 percent respectively), although racial differences did not change the age of their first intercourse.”

The study found kids were more likely to have sex if: they committed juvenile crimes, were out past curfew, and had instability at home.

“They found that additional maternal education — beyond a high school level — was found to inhibit some of that activity.”

” ‘That can be for multiple reasons,’ Lohman said. ‘It can be that mothers have better paying jobs and more stable home environment and they’re less likely to be in stressful circumstances. It could also be that mothers then have greater cognitive capacities to sort of sit down and discuss the pros and cons of waiting to have sex until you’re older.’ “

The researchers are suggesting programs be set up to help mothers prevent early promiscuity.

The researchers believe schools start their abstinence programs too late.

One of the researchers said that she was shocked by the ages they were finding, and rightly so. I can’t imagine a child at 9, 10 or even 12 being the least bit prepared to have sex.

What do think of these numbers? What do think of this study? What can be done to help stop children, literally children, from having sex?

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motherjanegoose

August 19th, 2009
7:37 am

To me, this is very sad. I will not pretend to have answers for this one.

I do know that YOUNG children are becoming more and more sexually versed, per the stories I hear from the teachers who are attending my presentations. Children are seeing and hearing things way too early and repeating what their parents are saying or what they see on TV or movies they should not be watching…some of it is quite crude.

I suppose, children like anyone else, will seek love and affection…if they are not getting what they need from their parents or other close adults. Our society is somewhat in a free for all, as far as sex goes and perhaps this is trickling down….I do not know.

While I would like to agree with HB and give most people the benefit of the doubt, I have seen and heard way too much. Thus I choose to agree with catlady when she says, “common sense is not so common anymore….”

Perhaps we should ask grandparents what they think needs to be done.

motherjanegoose

August 19th, 2009
7:42 am

OOOPS…I meant to share this illustration…

A 5 year old told his teacher, ” My Dad has a new girlfriend. The do the hootchie koo. It’s o.k. because they are going to get married soon and all married folks do it too….”

WOW….some may think this is cute but to me, why does the 5 year old know this or need to know?
Perhaps I am WAY too old fashioned but some things need to be more private.

If you had a five year old who played with this child and your child may come home with this story…

HB

August 19th, 2009
8:08 am

This is horribly sad, but Theresa, could you please take a closer look at your headline and the story? If I’m reading the story correctly, it does not say that the average age that low income children first have sex is 12. Rather, that’s the average age among the 25% who are having sex between the ages of 11 and 16 (I think — correct me if I’m wrong). Those are two very different statements.

And clearly, the children who are having sex so early are not in good home situations, and as a society, we need to find ways to improve the lives of the impoverished. But this won’t cause me to assume that every parent I see whose child is having a bad moment or who spills something lacks common sense.

As for looking to previous generations for answers, while this is horrible, many people have a misguided notion that things were so much better in yesteryear. The poor have always suffered. During the 20th century, children worked in horrible factory conditions. In some areas, it wasn’t uncommon for children to be married by 13! My mom who grew up in rural Georgia in the late-40s to early 60s laughs and the idea of how great things were “back then.” Her small family home had running water only for the kitchen sink — no toilet or bathtub. And in that area, they were not “poor” but average. Being white, she did have the opportunity to attend a local school with a reasonably sound building, but she said the black children’s school could barely be called a building and they had no school bus. So yes, terrible things happen and we shouldn’t be blind to the problems people face, but there was never a time when everyone was in church on Sunday, crime was nonexistent, and all people treated each other with kindness.

Photius

August 19th, 2009
8:29 am

Good people don’t reproduce enough…. but the morons reproduce like Rabbits who amount to nothing and the cycle of stupidity repeats itself.

Theresa Walsh Giarrusso

August 19th, 2009
8:46 am

HB – I’m rechecking with the headline on the piece. I am terrible at stats so I will double check –

Jesse's Girl

August 19th, 2009
8:49 am

So true Photius….so true. The people that have no business sharing their gentic code…are the ones throwing it around like candy at a parade. I have seen this first hand…sadly. The studio I worked along side a few years back was primarily a Hip Hop oriented studio. They had some amazing people working there…brilliant. But the folks that were coming in to record were dumb a$$es. And they brought every person they ever met in life to watch them record. It was sickening to see some of these KIDS….and they were, 12-13-14…behaving in the ways I witnesses. I had a conversation about it with the studio owner…who is black. He said thats just how it is in certain neighborhoods. No daddys….little money…no attention school and grades. And the racial mix of these kids was 60% black, 30%white and 10% Asian/Hispanic….so its not just the poor black kids this is happening with. I was appalled daily.

motherjanegoose

August 19th, 2009
8:59 am

@ HB

“But this won’t cause me to assume that every parent I see whose child is having a bad moment or who spills something lacks common sense”

I do not make any assumptions until I see how the parent reacts, as kids will always be kids. This gives me tremendous insight into who is lacking in the common sense arena. I guess I have been a teacher for so long that I respect parents with common sense and thrilled with children are managing confidently in life. An old saying is, “the apple does not fall far from the tree…”

You and I are very different stages and locations in our lives and we have a different approach.
Suffice it to say that our opinions are different….perhaps polar opposites. I base mine on my experiences and so do you.

I work, most every day, with children and have been ( in schools) with children from Florida to Alaska. I am also indebted to the teachers who share relevant information with me. This is where my insights come from.

I do not know about rural GA as it was when your mom grew up, so those are very valid points too!

“So yes, terrible things happen and we shouldn’t be blind to the problems people face, but there was never a time when everyone was in church on Sunday, crime was nonexistent, and all people treated each other with kindness.”

Even if things have never been perfect, can each of us make a difference in some way?
Contrary to what you may think, I try to share some form of kindness every day and I challenge my clients to do likewise. If everyone does a little a lot can get done.

Off of my soapbox….

Michelle

August 19th, 2009
9:02 am

Wow…that is a little earlier than I would have thought! I knew around 14 or so that was definitely happening. It is sad to think that these kids who don’t even have control over regular emotions are adding a whole new turmoil to their lives. For some people, sex is just sex. For some though, it is a means for affection, connection, acceptance. We need to teach these kids how to have respect for themselves and others. They need to have a reason to strive for something different than what they know.

Aaron

August 19th, 2009
9:26 am

Helloooooooooooo. Is anyone surprised? It’s all that great parenting by the thugs. They don’t properly teach their kids which is why they are having sex so young, robbing people, killing people, ruining Atlanta, etc. If they would make them go to school and get an education, maybe things would be a little better.

Captain Underpants

August 19th, 2009
9:27 am

This is neither sad nor surprising.

This is just a confirmation of bad or lack of parenting, a breakdown in society, continued Dems policy failures and lazy good for nothing adults taking zero interest in themselves or their offspring.

The parents are probably just as bad or worse than the leeches they produce. Poverty begets poverty with the same bad attitudes leaping from generation to generation.

The bottomline is lack of morals and lack of character.

KAG

August 19th, 2009
9:29 am

That’s a bunch of bs. A child’s decision to have sex is largely based on how they were raised and their moral values that were instilled by their parent/s or guardian.

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wae

August 19th, 2009
9:31 am

Why not? The more kids they have, the bigger house they will get from the welfare system called Section 8. I am a landlord I know. I also know it is a broken system that needs to be fixed. The tax payers suppor these people, they start having sex and babies too, too early.

Donna P.

August 19th, 2009
9:31 am

Ridiculous study, I hope my tax dollars didn’t pay for it. I’m from a middle-class neighborhood in Northern Virginia; most of the parents worked for the government and had steady incomes, etc. My friend “Lori” had sex at age 12 (her father worked as an air traffic controller). There were other young women; 12 – 14 whom had sex. I waited until I was 17. All of this took place back in the early 1980’s. To say low income 12 year olds are having sex because of their income statist is crazy. All kinds of young people are having sex early in their lives. They need to be informed about STDs, AIDS, pregnancy, etc. Some parents have blinders on and don’t discuss sex at home. It is a mistake not to be open with their children about this important issue.

motherjanegoose

August 19th, 2009
9:33 am

@Photius and JG, I wholeheartedly agree with you but did not want to risk such a rash opinion this early as the naysayers would be jumping all over me and turn the blog into a criticism of my comment vs. sharing some insights we could actually learn from. Thanks for your opinions.

IMHO: too many rabbits are now voting … we will see how this will make things better….

@michelle: They need to have a reason to strive for something different than what they know.
To me, this would make all the difference in the world…great point….

pd

August 19th, 2009
9:33 am

If we didn’t have a societal structure in place that makes it difficult, these would be the natural breeding ages for the “wild” human. Unfortunately, these children are not a part of, nor do they understand the societal structure in place. Therefore, they are behaving like wild humans.

Coop

August 19th, 2009
9:34 am

There is very little supervision for our children. Many of these children live in single parent homes and they come home from shcool to empty homes on a daily basis. Parents have to work!

Renee

August 19th, 2009
9:35 am

I believe that some of these children may have been molested. The majority of them are exposed to sexually explicit material early on. Too many parents are not monitoring what their children watch on TV, what they listen to on the radio/cd’s. The parents are also not taking into consideration who their kids play with or hang around. We are constantly bombarded with sex via, billboards, commercials, tv shows, etc. Daytime commercials are just as bad as those shown at night. Early intervention is needed. Sex education begins at home. Parents need to utilize resources available if they are not comfortable having this discussion. If you are comfortable, make sure that you have ALL the information you need to answer any questions that your child may have.

joshua

August 19th, 2009
9:36 am

I remember starting middle school in 1986 in Atlanta Georgia. I remembered that I was 11 and didn’t know anything about sex but it seemed like I was in the very severe minority. I made the mistake of telling people that I was a virgin. And I remember the ridicule that I received. My parents were going through a divorce and my mother was not making a lot of money at her job, so we moved to a neighborhood with Section 8.

So, all of the children that I dealt with were having sex except me. Or at least they said that they were. So to me this is not new information. My perception was and is that it must have gotten worse because my experience was some 23 years ago.

The big problem with this picture is with young African American men. There must be a realization within them that they can achieve dreams and that they can be challenged mentally and it be a cool thing. And African American Men must challenge African American men to be men. It is going to take men to go into communities and challenge these young men to do better. If that never happens, then it will continue to spiral uncontrollably to levels of depravity that we have never seen.

Renee

August 19th, 2009
9:37 am

I believe that we need to get back to the basics and look at what God says about sex. If you are not a Christian, what does your religion say regarding sex? The kids need to know that sex is not just sex. There are many facets involved when you become intimate with someone.

Jim morrison

August 19th, 2009
9:38 am

Correct wae,

That is how the New Society has failed and the DEMS want to keep these people on welfare, food stamps, and any other government program in the hope of getting or keeping votes..i.e. Obama Care ring a bell.

These kids are raised in this type of world. Stuggle, have kids, get government assistance and the like. Therefore, the trend continues. Plus, the hip hop music with the ebonics and incorrect grammer that one hears daily is glorified my radio stations and the media as hip.

To me, there has never been a strong push to promote education in the media like other things out there.

My opinion is if you have a child and you are on or have been on the welfare system for years, then you get your tubes tied for free to stop the reproducing for others to support.

darkness

August 19th, 2009
9:39 am

Kids have an extreme need for affection and love at all stages of their life especially during this time of extreme change. These kids are just acting on pressures from society and their friends. It has been happening for years and will never change until parents take action to talk to their children about this subject. There needs to be a lot of truth and relevancy to the talk about sex. Their should be a consequence discussion that holds back no punches so that kids know the real dangers. We need to stop allowing our kids to learn from the media that sex is ok or fun and teach them the real meaning behind this topic.

The vulnerabiliy of kids at these ages is a serious factor in this whole debate and we need to take a serious stance.

Deborah Gibson

August 19th, 2009
9:39 am

Dixie, I will assume that you are less than “clued in” on the actual statistacal date of welfare recipients. Let me buy you a clue, if you will: Whites form the largest racial group on welfare; half of all welfare recipients leave in the first two years; and teenagers form less than 8 percent of all welfare mothers. So besides the fact that you are igorant, before you start speaking, Ebonics, please get your facts straight.

Jeremy

August 19th, 2009
9:39 am

Why is this so surprising? These parents are failures as individuals. They can’t even make a decent living (or don’t care to try). Why would you be surprised that they are failures as parents as well? And yes, I know, there are always exceptions to the statement; however, the only reason you can’t make a good living in this country is because of your own poor decision making.

RCH

August 19th, 2009
9:40 am

Like usual, it’s society’s fault. Society has been conditioned to accept premarital sex. But did society climb into bed with that women and create that child?

tdmfs

August 19th, 2009
9:40 am

And the surprise is where? How much did this cost the taxpayers? All the researchers had to do was monitor the news in any large metro area and obtain the same results.

C.J.

August 19th, 2009
9:41 am

One in five adults with genital herpes. I forgot the stats on teens with STD’s but its up there. All a result of the free love movement of the 60’s. The whole Woodstock generation should be patting themselves on the back, because this is the fall out from their maligned viewpoints. Abortion, divorce, STD’s, now 12 year old’s having sex! Great job, once again–FREE love is never free! Idiots.

not a parent but still concerned

August 19th, 2009
9:41 am

This doesn’t shock me. After reading the news article about the 8 year old girl who was gang raped by 9-15 year old boys, nothing shocks me anymore. We need better parenting. Now we have “childproof” everything. We now have programs that teach our kids, instead of the parents teaching their kids. But I dont’ blame most of the parents, I see a lot of parents working their tales off just to support their family. Some have two jobs and are hardly ever home so they have to pay someone else to raise their children. Society is changing. It’s ok to have sex now. No big deal. People don’t wait until marriage anymore. I heard many older adults tell me “you have to have sex before marriage and live with someone before you marry them, to make sure that’s what you want” WHAT!? I think it all boils down to a lack of respect. We don’t respect much these days. Marriage, communication, sex, elders, laws, and other important things like that. We’ve become PC. We’re trying to make everyone happy and it’s not working. We tell kids its ok if you have sex before your married, we try not to encourage it, but we won’t be upset if it happens. I had a friend, who’s mom went and bought him a box of condoms when he was 12, cause she knew the day was coming. She’d rather him be prepared. I say, why not talk to him about it, and convince him to not do it until he’s ready! His first sexual incounter was 13…on a train…with a 16 year old girl. I wish I could turn back time and raise kids when I was a kid. Seemed much simplier then. Though I didn’t wait until marriage, I still waited a LOT longer than kids are now. And in all honesty, if I could take it back, I would have waited even longer. We need to turn this trend back around. Maybe there is a reason people shouldn’t know EVERYTHING.

Charity

August 19th, 2009
9:41 am

@ Coop

I wholeheartedly agree with you. People automatically want to start saying that it’s a black thing without saying, you know, using words like thugs, gangstas and drive bys when in actuality low income could be from a nasty divorce and the parent has to work and the children are unsupervised and prob just lashing out. I hate statistics. Even when I took it in school. So vague and you can always expect the racist, sexist and colorist to find a way to make the numbers not pertain to themselves.

HB

August 19th, 2009
9:42 am

MJG wrote: “Even if things have never been perfect, can each of us make a difference in some way?”

Absolutely we can.

Thanks for looking into the headline, Theresa.

Staci

August 19th, 2009
9:44 am

There are still too many double-standards in society. Many would think it odd for someone to be out of high school & still be a virgin. They might even be labeled abnormal or worse for it. Yet we wonder why kids (high school and younger to me is a ‘kid’) are having sex.

DAVID

August 19th, 2009
9:48 am

DO NOT BELIEVE THE STUDY…How do you verify the results of the study-???….You cannot.

Todd

August 19th, 2009
9:53 am

Photius
I have been saying this for years. The smart people have the kids that they can afford. The morons of the world reproduce like rabbits. Why not let your kids be kids and not have the extra burden of growing up too fast?

bob

August 19th, 2009
9:56 am

As long as the liberals reward bad behavior, we will see bad behavior, Look at the effects of welfare !

DAVID

August 19th, 2009
9:57 am

BELIEVE THE STUDY IS PURE B.S….Most adolescent boys will swear on a bible they have had SEX……just to fit in…It is the Macho thing to admit.It is cultural….Believe the results of this study are rigged…to get more funding for more research.

Jaye

August 19th, 2009
9:57 am

Having worked for the Girl Scouts for many years, I think it’s obvious tat girls are becoming sexually aware, and sexually active, in a way that is alarming. Parents – both mom and dad – need to step up to the plate and raise their children. Yes, it’s a hard job – the hardest. Next, they and other adults who care about children should speak up about the blatant sexual messages that barrage the lives of children and young people in our society today. There has been no line drawn for children. Adults must have the courage to do this. We must role model for our children.

Realistic Teacher

August 19th, 2009
9:59 am

To me the sad part that is not mentioned in the article is that some of the parents don’t seem to think that this is a problem. I teach 8th grade in a low-income school; roughly 75% of our students are on free or reduced lunch. One of my parents is a waitress at a local resturant and when I saw her this summer at the resturant, she informed me that her daughter became a woman this summer “in both ways”. It was like she was sctually proud of the fact that her 13 year old daughter had been having sex. This, IMO, is the saddest part.

Mad Money

August 19th, 2009
10:03 am

Ok. Lets get real! In a low income home usually means that either it is a one parent home or an uneducated household. Either way, the child suffers from guidance and we all know that children need constant reminders on what and what-not to do. SO EVEN IF THEY GET PROPER ADVICE AT HOME THEY GENERALLY GET THE OPPOSITE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS MORE THAN LIKELY LOW INCOME STATUS. THERE IS ALOT MORE THAT I CAN SHARE FROM EXPERIENCE BUT I WONT BABBLE.

Jen

August 19th, 2009
10:04 am

Geee I wonder what percent are black? Gotta love the thugs!

pd

August 19th, 2009
10:04 am

I always laugh at the people who strike out blindly against the parents in these situations.

The child has a child at 12, so you blame the 12 year old’s mother who was 14 when she had her baby. You pitied the child until she made the same mistake and then you strike out against her.

Yeah, that 12 year old should have raised her daughter not to have sex at 12!!!

JH

August 19th, 2009
10:05 am

Hey… I wonder when LIBERALS and the ACLU would step up and take credit for this social disaster. When they forced God out with their “separation of Church and state” crap, which btw was never stated in the Constitution, they also forced out any kind of moral foundation and values education that were taught to children of generations past. This vacuum was subsequently filled with all the reality shows and garbage that some termed as entertainment and you are surprised about the results of this study? It is all I can do as a parent today to shield my kids from all the crap that is out there and preserve their childhood.

Again, thanks ACLU and LIBERALS.

Ashlie

August 19th, 2009
10:08 am

This is such a sad statistic. I do point my finger at the parents/guardians… Be more involved in your kid’s lives. If you don’t “have time” get them involved in other activities. I highly recommend “Big Brothers, Big Sisters” this gives them the type of mentors they need/desire. I have worked with them and volunteered for them. I have seen first-hand how much of an impact and positive influence it can have on “latch-key kids”, etc. It costs nothing on your part, as a parent, and has a world of positive effects on the kids involved.

On another note, a friend of mine who teaches 1st grade in the Atlanta area noticed two of her kids from class on the playground. They were holding hands, and walking. She asked them what they were doing. Their response? “Going to the local motel”… Kids are seeing and hearing WAY too many things on tv and especially from other adults… Be careful what you say/do around them. They are TOO impressionable.

REX FERAL

August 19th, 2009
10:09 am

Tell ‘em like it is, C.J.

FCM

August 19th, 2009
10:09 am

In some documented histories of Puritan New England, it was not unusal for a couple to get engaged and have a year to 18 months ‘engagement’ but the bride waddle down the aisle.

I cannot recall which trash novel had the line but I loved it “Why does each generation thinks they invented sex?”

Does that mean I want my children having sex. HELL NO! I want to lock them in a closet and keep them safe. (I won’t do that either)…..What I will do though, is educate them and advise them. My 9yo knows more than most, and one of my best friends thinks it is crazy. However the first time I spotted her freezing framing a shirtless Zac Efron (age 7) I knew I could bury my head in the sand or I could do the right thing by her and start the dialogue…..When she realized that her being here meant her Dad and I had sex….OMG! Her face was priceless….then she said “You have to promise me you and Daddy will NEVER, NEVER, NEVER do that with each other again!” Since we are divorced I had no problem promising. ;)

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Get Real People

August 19th, 2009
10:14 am

I am amazed at the racist misinformation being thrown about as facts by some people commenting on this blog.

NEWSFLASH: The majority of people receiving welfare are not BLACK!!!!
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Here are the statistics on welfare recipients:
Traits of families on AFDC (1)

Race
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White 38.8%
Black 37.2
Hispanic 17.8
Asian 2.8
Other 3.4

Back on topic….too many of our young people are bombarded with images in the media that say it is okay to have sex without worrying about the consequences. There is no stigma attached to having babies without having a husband. Baby Daddies and Baby Mammas images are glorified throughout our society these days. Young people see it all the time with the rich and famous who shack up and make babies without the need for a marriage. However they don’t realize that these people have access to resources that they don’t have that permit them to provide for their child.

Where are these kids parents??? Why are they not being held accountable???

Dan

August 19th, 2009
10:17 am

Thank you Stell, once again the impact of “journalistic” sensationalism

Light

August 19th, 2009
10:17 am

Not surprising… how many of us plant seeds in our childeren with the use of music videos and movies. On the flip side how many of use that same energy in planting seed of truth knowlege and wisdom in the children? What is truth one may ask? Who do u belive in…. have the Lord of your life lied to you… if not why are we apprehensive of follow his principles of life?

JATL

August 19th, 2009
10:19 am

I agree with Photius and JG and others who are like-minded. The findings of this study make me want to puke, and DAVID, if you don’t believe it then you should spend some time in a low-income middle school. It’s disgusting! I do want to make clear that I am including ALL races and ethnicities in my comments. Too many see this as a “black” problem, but I’ve found that when it comes to trashy people, it’s across the board. I must also qualify my statements to say that I DO NOT consider all poor people to be trashy!!!! There are a number of low-income folks who, for whatever reason, are poor but have high morals and teach their children well. My mother grew up very poor and particularly in this day and age (and even in the early 60s) would have been thought of as a prime target for teenage motherhood, but she was taught better and at least when she was an adolescent, unwed motherhood at an early age was something to be ashamed of that you avoided.

Perhaps the BIGGEST pro-active thing we could do would be to institute a nation-wide comprehensive sex education program that started in Kindergarten with age-appropriate materials and went through high school -like they do in Scandinavia where they have extremely low rates of teen pregnancy, abortion or STDs and they also have free birth control available at the high schools but in Denmark the average age of first sexual intercourse is 19 -that’s NINETEEN people!

We need to quit listening to the religious nuts and say -look, this is an epidemic that’s putting considerable strain and burden on society and our children. If you don’t like it -home school -but if you’re using public school your kid IS going to learn from the get-go how to be sexually responsible!!!

From my teaching experience I encountered a number of kids today who are taught to at least wait awhile and be careful, but a lot of people who are low-income are low-income because they’re too ignorant and lazy to be anything else (lazy being the operative word -they COULD take advantage of free educations and college and training opportunities, but they’re too lazy to do it). They tend to breed out of control starting at an early age (much like cockroaches or rats), and they raise their kids with multiple partners around thinking nothing of it. They’re the same people who seem to think it’s just so cute to dress their 5 year olds like little hookers and pimps in half shirts, platform shoes, earring studs (OH YES -I do preschool assessments and have encountered loads of poor 3 and 4 year olds with “grills” and cubic zirconia studs on the boys) and the like. They make sex jokes and are open with sex in front of VERY small children and think nothing of it. There’s also a lot of sexual abuse in these homes from all the different “boyfriends”, drug and drinking buddies who come in and out of the home on a revolving basis.

Renee -you commented about people’s relationship to God helping the situation, but SO MANY of these folks are “deeply religious” but that doesn’t seem to apply to screwing.

I’ve been astounded in my interactions with these people at just how many of them think absolutely NOTHING of teenagers (even really young ones) being sexually active and getting pregnant/causing pregnancies. There is going to have to be some kind of HUGE shift in parenting and society before this changes. I hate to say it, and I hate to punish kids who haven’t been taught any better, but I don’t think it would be a bad thing if the whole idea of having a baby in middle school and high school was something you should be ashamed of and afraid of having happen to you -like it used to be even 25 years ago when I was in high school.

I would also LOVE to see drastic government programs that ended Section 8 all together and imposed draconian measures for continuing to breed if you’re on public assistance. I would be VERY happy for my tax dollars to pay for abortions, vasectomies and tubal ligations. Our tax money already pays for free birth control at the county health offices, but these morons are obviously too clueless and lazy to acquire and use it. And don’t start with me on class and racial or ethnic warfare. Hey, guess what -I don’t think society would be hurt by having fewer low-class people! I also think that the decent people in every ethnic group and racial group would then get to enjoy more of the fruits of their labors if they weren’t carrying the burden of so much trash. For anyone who doesn’t like it -try to make something of yourself and teach your kids to do the same! There will always be some who fall through the cracks and go down this road, but we certainly don’t need to encourage millions!