Jon & Kate may split; Aunt Jodi says marriage is over

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I know some of you guys don’t want to talk about Jon & Kate, but there are just too many articles floating around about them right now to ignore the topic.

Entertainment Weekly has a big sit down interview with both Jon and Kate and they act like things are fine.

But then People online has published on the same date an article that says “Kate Gosselin Admits to Struggling with Her Marriage.” (The print magazine with more comments comes out on Friday.)

People online reports:

” ‘I don’t know that we’re in the same place anymore, that we want the same thing,’ she says quietly. ‘I’ve been struggling with the question of ‘Who is this person?’ for a while.’ ”

“Kate does have hope, however, that her marriage can be saved. ‘I will never give up hope that every member of our family can be absolutely happy again,’ she says.”

One of the commenters on the EW story linked to Radar Online to an interview with Kate’s brother and his wife Aunt Jodi. They say the marriage is over. It has actual footage of them talking.

It also says that brother Kevin and Aunt Jodi gave the only print interview to Star magazine so I assume that means money was involved.

UPDATE: Here is another story from The Associated Press on Access Atlanta saying it’s tough being in the spotlight.

What do you make it of it all: Which headline is right? Is the marriage over? Can it survive? What do they need to do to save it? (Probably stop filming a TV show.) Are they willing to do it? Is it all just a publicity stunt to amp up rating when the show returns on May 25?

121 comments Add your comment

veronica lee

May 14th, 2009
3:55 am

Hi, I’m visiting from MBC. Great blog.

PHR

May 14th, 2009
7:36 am

I’m so sad about this. I loved their family. You could tell at the end of the last season that Jon was over all of it. All I can think about is their poor children. I can’t imagine what it is doing to them. So sad!

JJ

May 14th, 2009
7:44 am

So what? I feel bad for the kids, but this is what happens when you allow cameras in your face 24/7 and you are seeking some sort of fame.

I am so glad I am not a celebrity. I like my quiet, peaceful life.

motherjanegoose

May 14th, 2009
7:53 am

I do not watch the show.

Here is what I cannot stand….when dirt shows up on public figures and they flat out deny anything happened. Later the truth comes out and YES there was a problem.
Do they not think something will eventually surface and leak ( if there is a problem) or are they so above the rest of us that they think we will be stupid enough to believe anything they tell us, in order to protect their reputation?
My family has it’s own set of problems but we do not have the papparazzi ( sp?) following us around…thank heavens AND most of the world could care less about our issues…LOL.

RJ

May 14th, 2009
8:02 am

I don’t watch the show anymore, but I hope that they can work through their differences for sake of their children. For one, they need to get rid of the cameras and focus on their family. They definitely need marriage counseling. Marriage is very difficult but you have to put the needs of your kids above your own.

Photius

May 14th, 2009
8:21 am

More people in America can tell you with great detail all about Jon & Kate but don’t know that the USA will soon have 70,000 boys in Afghanistan fighting a war with no plan. Keep it up, people….. Who cares about Jon & Kate? Why waste your time on this junk especially when there are matters of substance facing us….

HB

May 14th, 2009
8:42 am

There are so many tabloid articles that we can’t ignore the topic? We just have to gossip about this couple’s marriage? Really?

Theresa Walsh Giarrusso

May 14th, 2009
8:50 am

Hey HB and Photius — I can understand your complaint, but Jon & Kate are one of the most frequently searched topics on this blog (”Aunt Jodi” is searched for all the time) so I’m just trying to connect you guys to information that people are literally “searching” for.

Hey you guys get to vote for tomorrow: I’ve got three possible topics —
1. Field day: Not competitive enough anymore?
2. Pet Peeves: Top Pet peeves for your spouse
3. Six Flags: When is the right age to take your kids? Tips to have fun. Also memories from you going as a kid. (And I have video and photo gallery from the New Monster Mansion ride — you will remember it as the Monster Plantation.
I may make this a poll!

Jesse's Girl

May 14th, 2009
8:57 am

Good Lord….I have some Six Flags stories! I sang there while in high school!!! First french kiss at Monster Plantation….yeah baby!! Ah, the memories!!!

So…their marriage is in trouble? Gee…I can’t imagine why. Poor kids…maybe they can get a multi-kid deal on hourly counseling rates:)

JJ

May 14th, 2009
8:59 am

I vote for Six Flags…..more flags, more fun!!!!!

Theresa Walsh Giarrusso

May 14th, 2009
9:05 am

While we definitely want to hear about JG making out in the Monster Plantation ride — now called the Monster Mansion — Save the stories!! No sharing yet about Six Flags! This is why I don’t tell you the topics in advance — Also vote on my cute little poll that I took the time to make! That’s the official vote count!

Jesse's Girl

May 14th, 2009
9:07 am

I also worked at Splash Water Falls for about 10 minutes. Then I saw the hair product sludge/waste on the surface of the water and thought again….I’ll take singing out in the hot sun ANY day!!!:)

Jesse's Girl

May 14th, 2009
9:07 am

OK….make out story officially saved for tomorrow!!!!

sd

May 14th, 2009
9:31 am

I don’t understand why everyone hates the “Octomom” but thinks these folks are fine. Is the line at 9 children being too many?

I have a lot of trouble with this fertility treatment business when it comes to these multiple births.

Jesse's Girl

May 14th, 2009
9:35 am

I have seen Jon and Kate (the show) exactly ONE time…..but I am constantly assaulted with their mugs everytime I go to any grocery/convenience store!!! It only took one time to hear her de-ball him on the show to know that it would turn into Jon and Kate plus 8…every other weekend:) I want to throat punch the octo-mom too.

Jesse's mama

May 14th, 2009
9:38 am

I agree, this is what happens when you do reality T.V. However I also think it could all be just drawing attention to drive up ratings for the new season. Think about the timing here. What nobody has brought up is the way Kate treats John. I watch the show and anyone that does knows she’s not loving and sweet to her husband. I don’t condone his behavior but I can’t say I blame him for not being happy. She needs to take a look at her behavior. Raising eight kids can’t be easy but she’s making it worse for herself.

Michelle

May 14th, 2009
9:42 am

I think if they truly want to save their marriage, they need to get out of the public eye. They need to quit trying to get a high dollar lifestyle for free. They need to start living a “normal” life. I agree with most of you, the kids are the ones who will suffer through this!

lisa

May 14th, 2009
9:47 am

Well here it goes after wathing the show for so long I just knew it was a matter of time before Kates behavior torward her husband caught up with her. There are these controlling crazy woman out there that think everyone should put up with them. Well destiny has a way of letting you know you can’t and time to eat humble pie!!! There is only soo much men can take. I was a small version of Kate (not as controlling) but, didn’t stop and think sometimes of how I spoke to my husband. Well my husband finally put in me in my place when he called me out on it. We went through a very hard 3 months and we almost split but, thankfully we got counseling and worked it out. That was 6 years ago. I really learned that you shouldn’t really treat people like they are nothing. Especially your husband! He is there to be your husband and friend not a child!! I wish all these over controlling woman out there step back and think because their taste of humble pie awaking will happen to them to!! I hope Kate realizes her ways!

JJ

May 14th, 2009
9:50 am

I honestly don’t give a rat’s butt about Jon & Kate’s marriage. It as ZERO affect on my life. I don’t care how she treats him, or how he treats her. ZIP NADA NIL, I don’t care.

My life is full with my one child, four animals, one reptile, a house and a full time job.

Aubri

May 14th, 2009
9:51 am

I am just sad that yet another marriage is on the rocks. I’m not sure where they will go from here but I can’t begin to imagine dividing the assets and figuring out the whole custody thing. I can’t imagine being a single parent to one or two let alone 8 kids! I do think we should be less judgmental of them and their lifestyle choice. But we do have grounds to be judgmental of Jon. He seriously needs to grow up! His behavior is reprehensible!

Kathy

May 14th, 2009
9:56 am

Jon and Kate breaking up…..SURPRISE SURPRISE. I am so sad for all those kids. I hope they each take a good look in the mirror to find the answers to “what went wrong” and not blame each other or anyone else.

Looking forward to the Six Flags stories!!

Audrey in Georgia

May 14th, 2009
9:57 am

It looks like “Jon and Kate Plus 8″ is going to become “Jon and Kate Plus 8 In Treatment” and
later it will become “Jon and Kate Plus 8 Intervention.” I hope they work things out.

Tami

May 14th, 2009
9:58 am

I had heard something a few months back about Jon & Kate not being as close to Kevin & Jodi any longer, as well as a whole slew of friends/family probably due to the show, etc. I’m not sure what to believe about this story any longer. But, if Kate’s brother & sister-in-law are speaking up about it, they MAY know more and have more details than we’ve been getting. I think the marriage is salvageable IF they take a break from the show (or quit altogether) and get their family life straightened out. I began to notice changes in Kate during this last season. I wasn’t getting that usual “warmth & fuzziness” out of the whole group, but was somewhat reassured when they had their marriage renewal. However, a renewal played out on reality TV can sometimes spell gloom & doom. I hoped I was wrong in my thinking with these two, but I guess not. It’s all very sad. The marriage is fixable, but they may not want to fix it now. Somehow in the middle of all of this, they forgot to focus on the children and not themselves. Now look at the mess they’ve created.

MountainDawg

May 14th, 2009
10:01 am

I don’t care for the show too much, but watch it with my wife sometimes (as she enjoys it). This could be a ruse to boost ratings for their (overrated) show, but they’re being totally selfish if this is true. Although Kate’s an annoying harpy, marriage is for life & divorce (save for infidelity) is a sin & destructive to families!

David S

May 14th, 2009
10:09 am

Wow, two parents find themselves unsatisfied with the wonderful girls they already have and thus violate the will of god again and create 6 more kids. Then to pay for their new burden they turn to the materialistic and superficial world of entertainment and exploit all of their children not just to pay the bills, but for extreme material enhancement.

They no longer have a relationship with each other and their children, they now have a relationship with the exploitive entertainment industry and the television viewing audience. They no longer live as a family, but as characters on a reality show (and those always go well – just ask Jessica Simpson and Nick).

Should it really surprise anyone that this family has failed? One can only hope that this couple, along with the disgrace that is the Octomom, will wake everyone up to the downsides of IVF and other manipulative methods of reproduction. Just a brief glimpse of these two in action shows that they were not well-suited or really prepared to be parents of any children, let alone the litter they now have.

One has to feel sorry for the kids, especially the older girls. They have clearly been regarded as inadequate from the day these two set their sights on more children. Fortunately for them, they are the older ones and will be in position to get away from this disfunctional cirsumstance sooner than the other six.

Its funny how folks now condemn the horrible exploitation of the Dionne quints in the 50’s but yet glue themselves to their televisions in the 00’s to watch the same kind of exploitation of these kids. Yes, our civilization is definitely evolving.

motherjanegoose

May 14th, 2009
10:15 am

If you want to keep me off the blog tomorrow LOL please choose Six Flags….( I hear clapping now).
I did not grow up here, so my only experience at Six Flags has been as an adult and I did my best to send my kids with friend’s kids when they got their FREE tickets from reading. I reciprocated and took their kids somewhere else, on another day.

I am never about paying to stand in line and sweat LOL. I do like Dollywood, as it is cleaner, cooler ( trees everywhere) and more FAMILY oriented. Even grandparents have fun without any offspring. I know others who just think it is too country! The food and music is great.

Mark

May 14th, 2009
10:16 am

Kate is more interested in being on TV than she is in her husband or any of his opinions. That’s obvious.

Hotrod

May 14th, 2009
10:25 am

Nice honest post Lisa! Thanks for that. You are spot on. When I would stop by the show and watch it for a couple minutes, I could tell this relationship is extremely cold. While they are being interviewed there on the couch sitting together, you can tell he is wishing he was anywhere else but there.

With half of the marriages failing , another 30% in a bad marraige like Jon and Kates, I think the institution of marraige needs to be overhauled. My opinion is that the lust thing is fooling couples that this is what makes a happy marraige and they get married.

Rule of thumb #1 : If one marries a supermodel type person with zero common personality traits, 99.9% divorce probability awaits you.

Rule of Thumb #2 : If you think the person can or will change after you
marry them, 99.9% divorce probabilty awaits you. Here is proof, have you ever seen someone after 20-30 years and they say ” you are just like the way you were high school”. People really don’t change much personality wise from puberty on. Some experts say it is set much earlier. It aint changin.

Rule of thumb #3: Don’t have 8 kids and a reality show if #1 or #2 apply to you. It just keeps the stupid cycle going.

Kar

May 14th, 2009
10:32 am

I’m surprised how many people seem to be practically encouraging Jon to step outside of the marriage even before rumors of the bodyguard fling. Usually the sympathy is squarely with the wife.

Do people really dislike her enough to be ok with adultery?

Kristin

May 14th, 2009
10:33 am

I’ve seen exactly 15 minutes of this show (I’ve been bombarded with their image though)

It’s sad any time a family falls apart, kids are resilient but I feel that they thrive better in a happy intact household.

She was just so emasculating towards her husband that it was uncomfortable to even watch. It’s sad that she sacrificed her family for the sake of 15 minute of fame.

jablonski

May 14th, 2009
10:40 am

WOW, big surprise. She treats him like GARBAGE. I hope she has a miserable life because she is a miserable person. Joel McHale on “the soup” made one of the funniest comments on this show. The clip was one of that “b*tch” wearing Jon out and McHale said “check out next seasons new show Jon: Minus 9!! Funny and TRUE!

MountainDawg

May 14th, 2009
10:46 am

jablonski – LOL! Good analogy to Joel McHale/”The Soup”…he does a good job of laying into the whole “reality TV” genre. “Kate” is indeed a battleaxe of the 1st order.

tracher

May 14th, 2009
10:46 am

Who cares? Seriously. What does this have to do with anything?

Scott in Atl

May 14th, 2009
10:48 am

I’m sorry, but I have no idea who these people are….Is this from some soap opera or something? It is amazing how fixated people are on this drama though…I think they are bored with their lives so latch on to other peoples drama. Maybe they should work or play harder- you only get one shot at this life, people!!!!

cubalibre

May 14th, 2009
10:49 am

I’ve never watched this show– the only portions of it I’ve seen are the clips they show on “The Soup” (which I do watch, EVERY week). I realize that editing can leave things out, skew the context of comments or actions, and slant perspective towards a particular conclusion. But even the best editing can’t create things out of thin air, and from the clips I’ve seen, Kate is just flat-out disrespectful of her husband as a person (e.g., the clip where she snapped at him for breathing while she was talking– painful to watch). I can dig that having 8 kids could send someone over the edge at times, but Kate just seems to be unhappy and dissatisfied in general, and to dislike her husband in particular. This surely hasn’t escaped their kids’ notice, so maybe the Gosselins would be doing everyone concerned a favor by splitting.

Decatur Mom

May 14th, 2009
10:52 am

Sad the spectacle those parents made of their family and children. I don’t see how any marriage (or family) could withstand the constant invasion of privacy.

tracher

May 14th, 2009
10:52 am

If you want to discuss something important for mothers in the AJC today, look at a commentary by Linda Meric of 9to5 National Association for Working Women discuss paid sick days for all employees – this would specifically help low-wage working moms maintain their jobs without a loss in pay when their children are sick. These are the kinds of things mothers should be discussing – not Jon and Kate. Support mothers and stop judging people. http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/stories/2009/05/14/mericed_0514.html

dawgdan

May 14th, 2009
10:54 am

I’m really glad I’m not the only one that noticed the ridiculous way she treats Jon. That woman is a total disgrace to all hardworking and loving wives and mothers out there. Any woman that looks up to her as a role model should be ashamed of herself. Yeah, she’s a mom of a slew of kids – so what? Behind the scenes, do you really think she’s a full-time mom? I wonder how many nannies they have?

Good for Jon. I feel bad that he’ll be buried under a mountain of child-support for the rest of his life, but a man’s sanity and pride is worth it. That poisonous, greedy, snake of a woman needs to just fade away.

lugin

May 14th, 2009
10:56 am

I think the family should go on Dr. Phil- seriously.

nypeach

May 14th, 2009
10:57 am

David S. you are spot on! Great assessment; I totally agree. They sold their souls to the devil for some coins and now they are reaping the consequences. The only thing that can save this marriage is to kick the cameras out and bring the therapists. THis is so incredibly sad for the kids…and like David S., I could never understand why the twins weren’t enough. I’m sure they had a tough time conceiving the first time, so why not be happy with the double gift they received? Jon and Kate are a perfect example of American society: we are greedily gobbling up anything that comes in our path and demanding more…more kids, more stuff, bigger houses, faster cars. At some point you stop and realize that all of this greed has damaged every relationship you once held dear. I pray for this couple that they hold on just a little bit longer and make their family their first priority again. and JJ, if you don’t give a hairy rat’s ass, why are you even taking the time to blog?

cubalibre

May 14th, 2009
10:57 am

Jablonski & MountainDawg, y’all beat me to it! Who needs to watch these crazy “reality” shows when Joel McHale shows us all we need to know about any of them?!? I think he’s the best host of that show yet!

the Voice

May 14th, 2009
11:00 am

Dr Phil? You are kiddin right…you mean that moron that gets troubled people on his show and magically in 1 hour cures all their ills after embarassing them to death. Yeah he will do them a lot of good.

Amy

May 14th, 2009
11:03 am

The real sad part about this is those 8 beautiful kids. Regardless of their marriage situation, those kids have been raised well. I have had doubts in my mind that their marriage would last the whole time. Having 8 kids (6 of which are the same age) can take its toll on a couple. Doing a reality show only added fuel to the fire. They probably would be a much stronger couple if they had skipped on the reality show (perhaps only doing an every two years update) would have been a better choice. I don’t think John liked being on TV and he didn’t like losing his anonymity. Kate wanted to be in the spotlight. That’s where their differences begin. Yes, being on the reality show gave their kids experiences that they may not have otherwise had, but at what cost? The cost of now having to live in a broken home?

JJ

May 14th, 2009
11:06 am

NY Peach, I’m a regular on this blog, that’s why.

Amy

May 14th, 2009
11:07 am

Nypeach… well said!! 2 was enough…they were playing a game of russian roulette with fertility treatments. If they wanted just one more child they could have adopted. There are WAY too many children in this world that need to be adopted.

Amy

May 14th, 2009
11:08 am

Of course.. those sextuplets are all precious little individuals…

Jane

May 14th, 2009
11:11 am

I Never understood why Jon and Kate got a show in the first place. There are so many other families out there who use fertility drugs and have 3 or more children at a time. What is so special about them? They enjoyed all of the publicity and money they earned from their show which is a complete boring mess.

Dave-in-Conyers

May 14th, 2009
11:12 am

My wife and I have enjoyed watching “Jon & Kate Plus 8″ from the beginning. It’s been a joy watching the kids grow up and develop their individual characters. My wife will tell you that I said that Jon looked ready to bolt early in the programming. Kate is a shrew and Jon is between normal and too laid back. Kate needs to tone it down about 5 notches. Hate to see a split and hope that all of this brouhaha is simply media generated for their (the media’s) profit. Looking forward to seeing their next season … fingers crossed.

Now if Matt and Amy, Little People Big World, can get some controversy going between the two of them and creating a stir in the media circus, their next season would start off as sensational too; beyond what it already is.

Jesse's Girl

May 14th, 2009
11:16 am

Ha!! So apparently I am out of a really cool loop! There appears to be a HUGE contingency of peeps out there that only get their Jon and Kate info from Soup!!!! My neighbor…who reads Theresa daily…called me to tell me about all these clips on YouTube. Needless to say, I checked it out! OMG!!!!! The fall out from the unused coupon is HORRIBLE!!! No….I do not condone cheating at all. Get divorced before you lay with another. HOWEVER…..if the man found someone to reattach his balls….its completely understandable. This woman needs therapy. I don’t know how the male crew members don’t check on their “boys” after every taping.

DB

May 14th, 2009
11:18 am

I don’t watch the show, but it’s hard to avoid the fallout when it’s all over the covers of the gossip magazines in the supermarket checkout line! I don’t presume to make any judgements on anyone’s marriage — marriage is a private thing, and what goes on behind closed doors or when the camera is turned off is pretty much real life, not that life that is put on display in carefully planned segments. To presume that we “know” these people because of a t.v. show is presumptuous in the extreme, and pretty naive.

I think Kate, in the People article, is only expressing what almost everyone who has been married for several years may often feel: “Who is this guy/girl I married?!” People are human — they are not always wise and careful. Sometimes they do stupid things. Even my mother, who is dealing with my failing father, has commented in bemusement, “I don’t even recognize the man I married” — after 54 years of marriage. It’s not lack of love — it’s just bewilderment in the face of change.

Most marriages, I think, go through a spot where, sometimes, we just have to pretend our way through the rough spots to get to the other side. We hold on to what we remember is good and right about our marriages, grit our teeth and get through the trouble. Most of us, however, have the luxury of not having to do it under a microscope with millions of people chiming in from the sidelines on what we are doing wrong and how to fix it!

We should not make the mistake of confusing a TV show with real life. I wish them the best, and hope they are able to weather the storm.

SouthernGal

May 14th, 2009
11:24 am

Interesting thing about the affair with Kate and the bodyguard….don’t men usually have affairs with women to get AWAY from women like Kate?

DebbieDoRight

May 14th, 2009
11:25 am

This was inevitable. This is called “The Curse Of Reality TV Couples!!” How many marriages have failed because of Reality TV? Jessica Simpson’s, That Wrestler guy, Nas and Kellis; etc. I think it’s VERY HARD to have cameras in your face 24/7.

Also, I think when you have multiple children, (born multiples), it’s extra hard on a marriage. After you have children your sex life goes down a bit especially the first few months of your child’s life. Well when you have MULTIPLES, the lack of sleep, etc. can really harm your one on one time with your spouse.

I hope their marriage can be saved; however, it’s gonna need LOTS of work. Also, I don’t think they can get rid of the TV show; it’s probably a big boon to their finances; they have EIGHT KIDS UNDER 10!! Food alone should cost a fortune a month!!

Grandma

May 14th, 2009
11:30 am

How can you compare “octo-mom” to Jon and Kate? They are not even CLOSE to being in the same predicament. Kate has a WORKING husband, and isn’t living off welfare. Sure, they get money from their show, but with 8 kids, who wouldn’t need help? I could see the split coming for several seasons with the way Kate talked to and treated Jon. If I was Jon, I would have had enough YEARS ago. She talked (and talks) down to him like he was one of her kids, and he looked like he was afraid to stand up to her. Grow a “pair”, Jon, and talk back! Express your opinions. It might have HELPED your marriage.

MamaS

May 14th, 2009
11:37 am

I think it is a publicity gimmick for their new show:

Jon versus Kate: The Fight for Custody of the Eight

and TLC can pay for mediators, bonding assessments, legal aid, etc. This would be more of a “reality show” for the 50% of couples who get divorced.

jablonski

May 14th, 2009
11:49 am

That bodyguard must look like Sloth from the goonies, be blind and deaf to want to go near that “woman”.

SouthernGal-yes men usually do run away from women like that-see above again.

Katherine

May 14th, 2009
11:50 am

nypeach, I second what you said! (Also, off topic, are you a peach in NY or a NYer in Georgia? I moved to NY (upstate) from GA last October (and obviously still read this blog!))

Savvy

May 14th, 2009
11:50 am

Re: How can you compare “octo-mom” to Jon and Kate

Both made the decision to have multiple births, that they could not afford and now they want the viewing audience to pay to watch.

jg

May 14th, 2009
11:51 am

Never liked the show – they are so nasty to each other – I feel so bad for the kids…..How sad.

Debra Blackwell

May 14th, 2009
11:58 am

I know Maddie ,one of the twins will really be affected alittle more than the other l children.Why would these people have all these children and do this to them? I call it selfishness.I really loved this show.I say keep it going even thru the split it might help others!

Jesse's Girl

May 14th, 2009
11:59 am

I think we should get Bob Qui-Qui to do the couple’s counseling. NOW THAT I would watch!!!

Jesse's Girl

May 14th, 2009
11:59 am

I meant BON QUI-QUI…but I’m sure Bob would be entertaining too!

YingYang

May 14th, 2009
12:02 pm

Kar – no one MADE or encouraged Kate and Jon do anything including marriage, multiple births they could not afford, ’selling’ the kids on a tv show or possibly breaking their wedding vows.

Mike

May 14th, 2009
12:02 pm

Never heard of them or the show. Who gives a ding dang? Get a life.

K&K's Mom

May 14th, 2009
12:02 pm

Hey Everyone…Long time no Blog….
At anyrate I can’t say that I am surprised if this is true. I watch the show alot and I must say that the way Kate talks to Jon and just from watching their interaction with each other I could have seen this coming.

They don’t seem to have any love for each other, but in their defense, it has to be hard to do that with 8 children under 8 running around and constantly needing your attention. Of all the shows that I have watched, I have never seen them go on a date night or just put the kids in bed and spend anytime together just the two of them. Even when they renewed the vows in Hawaii it seemed to be more about Hawaii and the kids having that experience then rekindling the fire and romance that is obviously not there. Clearly we don’t see everything that is going on but they don’t seem to front for the cameras, they seem to be what yousee is what you get.

If it is true I feel a tremendous loss for all those children, who are caught in the middle of a mess with all the affairs and stuff.

JJ

May 14th, 2009
12:05 pm

Jessie’s Girl – I had NO Idea anyone else knew of Bon Qui Qui. I love her King Burger skit – “He wants a number three, supersize onion ringsssss……..He can come out ‘da house wit no ankle bracelet on, but he got two strikes so don’t get his order wronggggggg”…..

Cammi317

May 14th, 2009
12:09 pm

I have never watched one episode of this show, but it seems I can’t escape hearing about them lately. Divorce happens everyday, nothing shocking there. The truly sad aspect of this entire thing is that because they are on television all of their dirty laundry is hanging out for the public to see.

Jesse's Girl

May 14th, 2009
12:12 pm

JJ…one of my students called me Bon Qui-Qui this morning:) I say “I will cut you” a lot. So I thought that was why…..but its apparently due to my spontaneous, off-the-cuff rapps:) Yeah…I flow like dat…

Ann F

May 14th, 2009
12:16 pm

no matter if they are famous or not, these two people chose to marry, and have children. before the decide to split, they need to try to fix themselves, and the marriage, first. they need to exhaust all options, before they finally give up. that way, they can *honestly* tell their Children that they tried everything they can, to continue being a one family unit.

i have watched little of the show, but what i have seen, i think jon does the best he can for his family. i see that kate gets upset with him, and belittles him, rather than try to communicate a different way. of course, being tv, we never know. it could be edited just right. either way, i wish them the best…whatever that may be.

Ex-Kate fan

May 14th, 2009
12:17 pm

Here is my problem…while killing some time in Memphis last weekend I picked up a copy of Kate’s new book “Eight Little Faces”. It is absolutely full of Bible verses and things like “Everything I do is for my children”.
Really? Are you sure about that Kate? I don’t wish for anyone’s marriage to fail, but seriously, Kate is a complete b**ch. If Jon leaves, I don’t blame him. I just feel so terrible for their children, who asked for none of this, and have had their entire lives shown on t.v. for the last 4 years.

nita

May 14th, 2009
12:23 pm

Who cares?… I don’t know how they can afford to split up. She will never get any free weekends because he will spend all his time trying to work just to pay child support. I feel bad for the kids. They should have never let the world into their life and homes. Making a quick dollar by exploiting yourself and your kids has its disadvanages. Having kids can be stressful enough on a marrigae, so I can’t imagine why they thought the tv show would be a good thing. I hope they reconsider and remove the cameras from their lives and make it work.

Peach

May 14th, 2009
12:25 pm

Let’s think about this one. You are at home allllllll day long with 8 kids. Do you really think you are going to be a LOVING woman to your husband, who has been away for 10 hours??????? I’d be a bit jealous he got to go out into the world and communicate with other ADULTS….

She’s been dealing with 8 kids under the age of 10 all day long…..what woman can handle that by herself, then be available for hubby after a long day?

And what is it about a man that thinks the minute they walk in the door, they get to relax after a hard day? I’m still working………and now he’s just created more work for me!!!!

truth

May 14th, 2009
12:33 pm

Why would Aunt Jodi exposed this information do she want to be famous to?…Katie always seem a little bosses toward her husband on the show no affection at all…..they only talked about what there doing with the kids…They both need time with each…. .I feel sorry for the kids because I know they love there parents so much…I think the husband was suffering because he need affection….Katie is to busy for affection she has to take care of the kids ….They need to pray and focus on there family and turn the camera off for a while….

Photius

May 14th, 2009
12:42 pm

I vote for Pet Peeves of one’s spouse for Friday!

Savvy

May 14th, 2009
12:43 pm

Nita – The quick dollar they’re making is approx. $75K an episode. (don’t forget about Kate’s book, the magazine covers and the tv interviews). Financially they are okay. They have sold the souls of the kids to TV, but financially, they’re okay.

What

May 14th, 2009
12:45 pm

truth – that was a very difficult blog to read

FCM

May 14th, 2009
12:55 pm

Having been through this part of a marraige….I think they need to stop talking to the dang MEDIA…get the cameras out of their house….and find their priorities again.

Couvade

May 14th, 2009
12:55 pm

Kate is a shrew but Jon leaving the many children he CHOSE to create with her would still be wrong. Haven’t they been through enough already?

Jesse's Girl

May 14th, 2009
12:57 pm

Truth…why don’t you try that again? Even with 3 cups of coffee under my belt…that was taxing.

Tony

May 14th, 2009
1:03 pm

Once again parents shirking their responsibility to their children. A gross product of todays society and how some parents don’t deserve having children if they can’t handle the responsibility and dedication needed to nourish them.

Peach

May 14th, 2009
1:06 pm

Keep in mind, the media really controls us. They decide what we see, what we hear, they manilupate EVERYTHING we see, hear, etc…….We have absolutely NO idea or clue what is really going on in that marriage. AND it’s really none of our business, even if they are on tv.

This topic is not worth all the attention it is receiving. Do you really think Jon & Kate worry about us?????/

SouthernGal

May 14th, 2009
1:42 pm

Keep in mind….neither of them work. Jon did in the very beginning, but now they both are unemployed. Kate likes to call herself a “stay-at-home mom”, all the while she is spending weeks away from home at a time promoting whatever new book she’s trying to sell. They also accept “love offerings” from churches where they speak…and charging for photos and autographs on top of that.

They are living off their children who didn’t ask for cameras to be in their faces 24/7 while growing up.

SouthernGal

May 14th, 2009
1:43 pm

Oh, and no, she’s not doing it all by herself. They have nannies. Something even this full-time employed mother cannot afford….

nurse&mother

May 14th, 2009
1:46 pm

This is one of the reasons why “they” say money is the root of all evil. It sounds like these people sold their soul to the devil. Big price to pay. I personally think they will stay together for the money. This is Kate’s job, you know.

I used to like the show the first couple of seasons, but I quickly realized what kind of person Kate really is. Very sad. I am not sure why she has soooo many fans. I also hear she is rude in public to her fans. My philosophy is you had better be nice to others while you are climbing up. You might just be seeing those same folks on the way down. (I think someone else has stated this much more eloquently).

lisa

May 14th, 2009
2:08 pm

Peach -She is first of all not alone she has a lot of help and John is home. Neither one of them work, they both quit their jobs to make 75,000 an episode. Yes she has a lot of kids but as mentioned earlier no amount of kids gives the right of a wife to treat her husband like an extra child. Being a stay home mom for a while my husband and I decided to make sure I had time to myself with other adults also. A stay home mom is MY job and if him working outside the house is HIS job. When we are both home you take turns! Besides I don’t think with all her extravagances she is missing it out on anything!
I don’t condone John’s behavior but, SOME woman need to stop being so controlling, because it ALWAYS comes back to bite you. Know a few people who are in divorce because of this controlling PROBLEM.

deidre_NC

May 14th, 2009
2:55 pm

who cares…ill look forward to six flag stories..and i do like dollywood better..only because im getting old tho lol..

Kathleen

May 14th, 2009
3:01 pm

Watching the two of them is like watching a train wreck. She is a narcissistic shrew, and I give him credit for putting up with it for this long. I’m sure he’s done it for the sake of all those kids.

My heart breaks to think of what will happen to them when he’s gone. Multiply 8 x that one older kid who is a junior shrew.

Penguinmom

May 14th, 2009
3:26 pm

I never really enjoyed Jon and Kate because they never seemed to really get along. Always bickering and complaining on the few shows I watched.

I prefer ‘18 kids and counting’. While I cannot imagine having 18 kids, those family members are actually respectful and pleasant to each other.

Peach

May 14th, 2009
3:31 pm

Here’s an interesting tidbit………

Yesterday’s topic, Talking to your kid about sex – 37 posts.

Today’s topic – Gossiping about someone no one knows…….86 posts.

mmmmmmm maybe we like to gossip more than talk to our kids…….

lisa

May 14th, 2009
3:38 pm

Peach – We do know them they sold their souls for a hefty price tag for us to know them. We can only judge what we see. This would be a great surprise if she did treat her husband with respect.

JASon

May 14th, 2009
4:01 pm

Everyone else in the public eye has to deal with paparazzi and rumors. Deal with it, Jon and Kate.

JASon

May 14th, 2009
4:02 pm

By the way, Lisa your husband is a lucky man.

Southerncross

May 14th, 2009
4:08 pm

(being sarcastic)

OH!!! NO!!!! What will we do with our lives, if a reality TV show on TV cannot make it, what hope is there for the rest of us.

I say we need to stop supporting or watching these types of Rality shows, or reality shows period. Every reality show about marriage, except the Osbournes, have all ended in divorce soon after the show are on TV.

In some cases, the reality show has completely destroyed the indivuduals lives. Yet, we still support and watch for the drama. Some people do it to avoid some of the drama in their own life.

I watched this show a few times, each time, you can tell what a high-strung, high maint. person she was. Very rarely would she let him talk and or complete a sentence, always trying to talk over him or get him to say anything that might make her look human. The question is, who did not see this coming. From day one, you can see this about to happen.

the kids will be fine and better off than most in America, through trust funds etc. that have been set up as part of the show deal. They might not grow up with both original parents in the home, because both these TV morons have already found someone else, however, financially they will be fine. That is if the parent’s do not manage a way to destroy the money, like they did their lifes and respect.

How about, instead of worrying about their kids, worry about your neighbors who have lost everything because of outside forces, who cant afford new clothes for their kids and the family is about to become homeless. The parents of which are great parents and managed to stay together for life, rather than making a mockery of marriage like these reality shows do.

nurse&mother

May 14th, 2009
4:18 pm

JASon-that is my thoughts on all those folks who CHOSE to be in the spotlight.

Funny thing happened yesterday. We had a lady who had delivered her first vaginally. She asked for an elective c/s for her second baby. The OB/GYN tried to reason with her and tell her all the risks etc. I think the main reason the patient gave for wanting a c/s was convenience. She could plan to have everyone there. She also stated that she didn’t want to hurt. The doctor was unable to change this patient’s mind. Interestingly, the patient was in a LOT of pain immediately post-op. Oh well. Sometimes we get what you ask for and we’re STILL not happy. Same goes for those stars who want the fame then all of a sudden, they don’t want everyone to recognize them. Should have seen that one coming. JMHO.

nurse&mother

May 14th, 2009
4:20 pm

Sorry, that last post did not flow so well. Need a nap. zzzzzzzzz.

FCM

May 14th, 2009
5:18 pm

Theresa—everytime I logged in yesterday I could only see the Zoo Parenting blog…..Perhaps others had that issue and why so few posts yesterday….Sex usually has everyone talking!

FCM

May 14th, 2009
5:20 pm

How about we talk about LOST? Grey’s finale tonight

motherjanegoose

May 14th, 2009
5:49 pm

nurse and mother….I had a c section the first time and was forced to have a vbac the second time. My insurance was fine with the c section as my Doctor in Texas had documented everything ( baby was 10 pounds 8 ounces a week early….I only gained 28 pounds and was ALL baby).
BUT my DOCTOR here ( Gwinnett County) knew more than everyone else. Outcome was a daughter born ( after 27 hours in labor) with Erb’s Palsy. Thankfully, she is fine now but it was a nightmare….
give me a c section anytime….not anymore as I am almost 50 LOL! I respect knowledge but sometimes past experience can be a good predictor…I guess the doctor you speak of has had patients whose c section experience was not as good as mine!

DB

May 14th, 2009
6:01 pm

MJG & N/M: I had a VBAC after a c/s for a really big baby, and I LOVED it. The c/s wiped me out for weeks, and with the VBAC, I was up and around in just a few days. Different strokes. I would fight a c/s up to the point of the good of the baby, given the option (which, at 52, is hopefully no longer an option!)

JASon

May 14th, 2009
6:13 pm

One more thing: Hey, Kate’s brother and Jodi: Uh, go F yourself. Seriously, you did a video interview when you should have been minding your own F-ing business and letting them deal with it themselves? Am I the only one who finds that way outta line?

Lynn

May 14th, 2009
6:30 pm

Nope, JASon. After the way Kate treated Jodi anything they say or do is completely justified. Normally I wouldn’t never think this way, but the way Kate treated Jodi on the show as well as the stories that Kate refused to allow TLC to pay Jodi for her part in the show only brings to mind the old saying “you reap what you sow”.

Theresa Walsh Giarrusso

May 14th, 2009
6:41 pm

I am creating a rule that voting on tomorrow’s topic ends at 8 p.m. because I have to know what I’m writing about for tomorrow. Right now with 20 minutes left to go Six Flags is ahead but barely!! So if you feel strongly one way or the other go and vote and whatever it says at 8 is what I’m going with! I like having you guys vote — it takes the guess work out for me!!

Brill

May 14th, 2009
6:48 pm

Ditto what Jablonski said, Every time I saw the show show she was wearing his a$$ out. He was embarrassingly brow beaten. She seems miserable.

aroth

May 14th, 2009
6:48 pm

It’s all a coordinated publicity stunt. Think about it, their new season starts in a couple of weeks, and now with all this controversy that’s been stirred up, they’re going to get a huge audience. Just like most reality TV couples, their relationship is completely fake, and scripted towards whatever will deliver the best ratings.

And hey, if it’s not just a play for more ratings, then at least Jon will finally get to be rid of that awful, awful woman. He should just stick her with the kids, and move on with his life.

motherjanegoose

May 14th, 2009
6:55 pm

DB….I was vaccuming 4 days after my c section and was ripped here to yonder after the VBAC…I almost died as they could not get her out and THEN she was paralyzed….you are correct that everyone is different. I spoke to a neurologist about this 2 years ago and he assured me that the
attending OB made the wrong choice …it was quota thing in 1992 and I got caught up in the numbers…..yuck!

Theresa Walsh Giarrusso

May 14th, 2009
7:41 pm

FCM — I didn’t have any complaints but it was a low count — I don’t know –I;’ll look in the system tonight and see if there was any weird text messing it up — very odd!! I’ll keep an eye out! thanks for telling me!

melissa's mom

May 14th, 2009
8:10 pm

I think it’s tragic and will pray for them. As for their brother and sister-in-law, I agree with JASon, they need to mind their own f—ing business!

Theresa Walsh Giarrusso

May 14th, 2009
8:48 pm

At 8 p.m. Pet Peeves was winning and at almost 9 it is still winning. So we’re going with Pet Peeves tomorrow — start thinking about your list!

misskitty

May 14th, 2009
9:03 pm

well, at first i thought maybe a publicity stunt, cuz what i have seen, ratings are going down. People just aren’t interested any more. Then, there was the “we need to really keep this this thing going” because, hello, our bills are getting paid, we live in a million dollar house, we are gettiing free tummy tucks, hair plugs and make overs…we don’t have to get up a 5 to go to work.”: have your affair i dont care as long as the money is rolling in.

misskitty

May 14th, 2009
9:09 pm

the kids will be the ones to suffer in the end. they dont have clue… they are at that trusting age. They trust and love their parents unconditionallyl.. but as they get older, they will figure out what was done.. My advise… stop the show, mom and dad come back to earth and go to work, giving their kids some work ethics, and a reality check..If they don’;t those poor kids are going to be really messed up adults.

Robin

May 14th, 2009
11:02 pm

My daughter and I called this split long ago…………..a shrew will rarely keep her man. Kate was never, ever kind or polite to Jon. We knew Jon would bail — just not so soon. As a result, he has risen in my estimation. However, I am truly sorry for the little kids. (and please, please get some help for Maddy)

Joni

May 14th, 2009
11:27 pm

I watch the program because it’s almost like watching a train wreck. Kate is a bully towards Jon and not above publicly humiliating him. She is raising little Maddy to be just like her. Go for the gusto Jon….find some peace and happiness….if it is possible since I think that Kate will take him to the cleaners and then some. She is just a biatch…..

nurse&mother

May 15th, 2009
12:29 am

Mjg- The patient I was referring to never mentioned that she had a difficult first delivery. The ob was sitting right in front of me with the prenatal records as she called the patient. I’m only stating that there are more risks to mom with an elective C/S than risks to both mom and baby during a vag delivery. No one can argue that point. Now if you say there is a medical reason to deliver via c/s for mom OR baby’s sake that is a WHOLE other issue.

No one has a crystal ball to be able to predict the outcomes of all labor/deliveries. If you have the mentality that doctors should be omniscient, then you probably subscribe to the belief that everyone should schedule a c/s ( because there is a remote possibility that there might be a traumatic birth experience associated with a vag delivery ). Hind sight is 20/20. But heck, if everyone gets sectioned then all babies will be born perfect right? BTW, there are risks just getting in your car and driving to work or the store. I don’t suppose that you avoid getting in your car to drive to the airport.

Unfortuntately, there are more complications for the mother with a c/s. Hemorrhage, clots (from deep vein thrombosis to pulmonary embolisms-the deadly ones), nicked organs (yes it does happen) and anesthesia complications are just a few risk factors associated with surgery. I actually had a patient who had a cardiac arrest from a scheduled c/s. By the grace of God and a talented OB/anesthesia team, the patient lived.

I only want to point out that there are real risks associated with elective surgeries. Just because you haven’t heard of anyone having any complications doesn’t mean that they aren’t occuring out there somewhere. While most of our patients seem to do fine, the risks are still there and it may not seem significant until it happens to you. The OB doctor was being prudent. The patient got her way, but grossly underestimated the pain factor. Hopefully she will not develop any complications as a result.

Have a good evening, MJG. I will officially step down off my box. lol. Peace out.

Michelle

May 15th, 2009
8:34 am

N&M; MJG-I don’t think you should request a CS just for convenience. However, in MJG’s case, she had a CS with baby #1. “Most” MD’s don’t even want to risk a VBAC because of the risk of uterine rupture, etc. I think if the labor is progressing normally, fine, but 27 hours…come on!!! I usually tell my patients that ask me my thoughts, I tell them of the risks and tell them to talk it over with their MD. Overall, I don’t think the risks of a VBAC outweight the safety of a repeat CS. Just my thoughts!

nurse&mother

May 15th, 2009
9:42 am

Very true Michelle. We don’t recommend VBACS anymore due to the risk of uterine rupture. I am referring to the patient who had the VAGINAL delivery FIRST and then requested the C/S second due to convenience. She also stated that she didn’t like the pain of her first labor. Whole other story. Unless there is a risk to momma or baby, we don’t recommend a C/S. Having a primary c/s is a situation where having a VBAC is a huge risk factor to the momma (and baby if there is a uterine rupture). Did you read the particular situation that I was referring to? I won’t rehash all the details again.

kml_72468

May 15th, 2009
3:58 pm

Kate’s brother and “Aunt Jodi” are just ticked that Kate did not want them to get paid for the part they took in the show in past seasons, Kate and her brother had a big screaming blow out fight and Kate said nobody was going to profit from her family! I guess her brother and Jodi think they got the last laugh by getting paid for the article they interview for but in my opinion you don’t turn on your family no matter what and them speaking out now is just wrong…they say Kate wants fortune and fame…….LOOK in the Mirror dear BROTHER (if you can call yourself that)

catlady

May 16th, 2009
9:18 am

The best thing for these people, especially the kids, is to get them out of the public eye. If they don’t volunteer to get out, we should boot them out. Honestly, how could anyone think they are role models anyway. Save the kids: get the show off the air and let these people get back to the real world, dealing with their real problems they have brought on themselves. They might be able to rise to the occasion and be real parents to their kids; it’s the kids only hope. Or else you will have 8 screwed up people breeding in a few years.

Advertisers who sponsor this should be ashamed. It is immoral.

Realitytv

May 16th, 2009
2:29 pm

I agree that Kate’s brother and sister-in-law are no better than Jon and Kate looking for the almighty dollar. Who honestly thinks that Kevin and Jodi made that video out of the goodness of their hearts and not becuase they were offered some kind of deal??? Jon and Kate need to start parenting their children by themselves. Do the kids even realize how lucky they are when things are given to them. I look at the students in my classroom and wonder how different their lives would be if they got to go on just one of the many outings that the Gosselin kids get to go on. So much money and yet so little love.

Rick Garner

May 19th, 2009
12:58 pm

Instead of spreading gossip and hate, you can really help Jon & Kate:

http://richardtgarner.blogspot.com/2009/05/i-can-honestly-say-jon-is-my-best.html

ashley

May 25th, 2009
11:12 pm

i agree. Om the season fanalie the kids would go up to kate and simply state “i love you mommy” and she would igonre them or cheesily say thank you honey, give them a kiss, and send them off to play. Also, Aaden got hurt so he went to kate for comfort and all she did was push him away and tell him to get dressed. She has too much on her mind to take care of these kids. i have loved this show so much untill tonight. the first episode of season just broke my heart to see jon and kate fight, and see what they are putting on the kids. it hurts them to see their parents pretending.

dana

May 27th, 2009
10:37 pm

it is very disappointing but all reality shows end or destroy the family, i loved this show when they were real and average people, it has gone way beyond im a normal mom… please.. and i feel for john he is young he has a wife who is never home for him or the kids they said she travels 3 weeks a month, come on she loves it she does not do it for her kids. that is alot for a dad… even if he had a little help as she said. its most sad for the kids but i agree they need a normal life and the series needs to stop. cameras 24/7 is not normal, every luxury is not normal.. at the bday party it was so sad when one of the sextuplets went up to john and said i love you i miss you please dont leave me again. i wonder how they will split the children and proceeds i believe kate will bleed him dry…. will he and the kids ever regain a normal life after this?

fedupNJ

June 29th, 2009
12:50 pm

I’ve watched this show from the beginning and stopped last season. My solution…take all the monies earned put it in trust funds for the 8 kids that the parents can’t touch with healthy minded individuals who only think about whats best for the kids. See what happens then………