I had a long talk with a guy friend about his constant dishonesty with women. He admits that his motivation to mislead women is rooted in deep distrust – mostly unwarranted. I was surprised to hear that he learned this from his own father. He has always believed that lying to women was basically part of being a real man.
He says things like “need to know basis” or “I tell her what I want her to know” all the time. Then is genuinely shocked when his flings or relationships don’t last. This made me think about the many attitudes, and ideas we have about love and relationships are learned from what we have seen or heard from other people. It can be a dangerous trend, though – especially when our behavior is shaped by them.
Do you ever wonder if there are some dating habits you need to unlearn? What about some of your attitudes or behaviors about the opposite sex? Are they informed by your own experiences or from others?
Do you remember that little kid Kenny from The Cosby Show that had jacked up ideas about gender roles from his big brother? I told my friend he was Kenny. Kenny was a kid, what’s his excuse?
Happy Monday!
By Wise Diva, Misadventures in Atlanta Dating Blog
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lee
December 17th, 2012
6:51 am
For some reason many guys believe that lying is the way to go, i don’t know why, don’t know where it started, but it did and has happened for a long time… I know plenty of guys that lie to their g/fs and in your 40’s and 50’s its a shame, i don’t get it. (i do know woman lie also, just not to the extend men do) I do think that after a certain age if you are still out there lying to everyone, you need help.
Do i need to unlearn something…. No …I don’t think so… I can be cold hearted but that is after all the lying and dumb stuff happens (im cold hearted cause im kicking you to the curb)
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
7:12 am
Morning all.
Damn Diva, where you meet all these people with all these issues? (LOL)
Unlearn some bad habits, umm it’s not me, it’s you!! (LOL)
Lie, why???
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
7:22 am
Pray for your children and little ones EVERY DAY! It was the devil that intended evil, but in turn sent 20 little children on to Heaven. A far far better place. No more tears, no more pain. Earth can’t even compare.
BBL on topic
disco
December 17th, 2012
8:56 am
good morning.
lee – my first thought at reading your post is that women are generally better liars. men aren’t very creative when it comes to lying. they keep telling the same ones over and over. the trick is for them to find the woman that will accept the lies they tell.
S/H – re unlearning bad habits. I won’t even say “it’s you, not me”. there’s some stuff that I know without a doubt is me but I embrace me (bad habits and all) so that’s that. lol.
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
9:22 am
Yes Disco, embrace thy inner self (lmao)
Women better liars, yea, we just don’t want the drama (LOL) These days it doesn’t matter what you say if it’s not what the other person wants to hear, then you’re lying!!
disco
December 17th, 2012
9:38 am
today’s blog goal. 25 posts. lol.
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
9:39 am
good luck with that one
MsAtl
December 17th, 2012
9:44 am
Morning All!
I agth Lee- after a certain age, stop the lying, get some help, do whatever you need to do, but grow up! I don’t think there are any dating behaviors I need to unlearn, but who knows. I try to deal with folks fairly and honestly, I don’t want games or drama.
MsAtl
December 17th, 2012
9:44 am
agth= agree with. Don’t know what happened there…
Mike P
December 17th, 2012
10:02 am
Its been my experience that women, for the most part, can’t handle the truth from men; it has been absolutely necessary to be less than honest with them; FOR SHAME!!!
disco
December 17th, 2012
10:05 am
mike p – absolutely necessary? lol. women can’t handle the truth? hmmm. for argument sake I’ll say it’s not that certain women can’t handle the truth it’s more that certain women simply don’t want to hear the truth. they could handle it just fine if they chose to.
MsAtl
December 17th, 2012
10:06 am
Mike- That is a cop out if ever I’ve heard one. Tell the truth and if the person cannot handle it, that is on them. You cannot seriously think it is okay to go around lying to an entire gender and use the excuse that they can’t handle the truth. Your actions are a reflection on you, not the person you are doing it to. The shame is in using an excuse for bad behavior…
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
10:08 am
it’s on now (LOL)
Leggs
December 17th, 2012
10:09 am
I don’t feel I have bad dating habits I need to unlearn. Perhaps I can trust a little more, but that’s earned, not given right out the gate. Certain things have been dictated to me by the opposite sex, and going forward it’s proven to be true. However, because of that, I keep myself “real” and if you don’t want to get to know me, you definitely won’t go far.
Interesting that men feel they have to lie to women as an indicator to being a “real man!” That’s an oxymoron.
Leggs
December 17th, 2012
10:09 am
Good morning!
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
10:13 am
He admits that his motivation to mislead women is rooted in deep distrust – mostly unwarranted
Just wow, dude came out of the gate foul. IJS! Buddy needs to get out of the dating pool….period….until he grows up, he’s tainting it. lol A liar, unwarranted (I can’t think of a time where lying is “warranted”)?? How are you an admitted liar but surprised when your
relationshipsendeavors never last?? I can even dig the “need to know basis”, to a certain extent, but only if things are new and it’s not appropriate or long enough time to open all the way up. Even so, “need to know” is running on a clock….for me. If though, “need to know” is all about games and being strategic and lying? Deal breaker.Like I said on here a week or so ago, tell the truth (whatever that may be….good, bad or indifferent) and let the person digest it, accept it or not. You just never know. Sometimes folks lie because of situations or how they think situations will be perceived. No excuse though. Situations may or may not be deal breakers, but lying is.
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
10:16 am
And how do you know folks are lying? Ummm, you don’t. If it doesn’t feel right in my gut….IT’S A LIE….lololol Oh, and the act of lying or deceiving (not just out of the mouth), all falls under the “lying” category. IJS
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
10:18 am
Withholding, holding tryouts (i.e. juggling/rotations), leaning on “dating” as a means for having many women, omitting….all lying
Courtside Seats!!! Caught on the Kiss Cam :)
December 17th, 2012
10:20 am
LOl..Mike is right on point with this one…… Alot of women just are not prepared to handle the truth…. i.e…
Chick- ” Are you seeing someone else”
(in her mind she knows teh truth)
Dude- ” Nope…Just you”
(In his mind…Damn..I hope she changes the subject.)
Chick ” Ok…Just Checking”
( in her mind — Maybe those panties really are his sisters)
Dude ” We cooL?’
(In his mind…lol…can’t believe she fell for the my sisters panties line)
disco
December 17th, 2012
10:23 am
hey leggs, celisea. C – for me the concept of on a need to know basis is ongoing and forever. at no point shall I ever just automatically be 100% forthcoming. not saying I’m going to lie but saying if you don’t ask the specific question you might not get the information you seek. I may even flip the script and be like “why you wanna know/why you need to know”. sure it could be construed as a behavior I need to “unlearn” but I’m keeping it.
courtside – that’s not a woman that can’t handle the truth. that’s a woman that doesn’t want to hear the truth. big difference.
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
10:24 am
Courtside, here’s how it works for me
her are you seeing anybody,
Me – yep
her, why you cheating on me
me, cause you wasn’t giving me none
Her, I should have know not to ask yo smart ass nothing!!
end of conversation (LOL)
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
10:27 am
Disco, even if you ask specific questions, doesn’t mean you’re going to get an answer! Can’t stand Nancy Grace! I don’t have to answer anything I don’t want to, and not going to lie about either, just going to say I’m not going answer that.
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
10:27 am
disco – Need to know for me is required….at some point. If I felt a dude could not open up (as in telling me personal stuff) but could keep honest, I would be good with that. I just don’t have that kind of faith…in some men. But, by the same token, I can’t see a person that’s forthcoming and honest, not at some point opening up. IMO, it’s what folks do the closer they grow and the deeper they get. That’s what I mean by “clock.” I’m going to ask pertinent questions, I’m not gonna pressue. If though, you at some point open up, I’m going to take that as a sign of dishonesty.
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
10:28 am
I meant…if at some point you DON’T open up, I’ll take it as dishonesty
Mike P
December 17th, 2012
10:31 am
A man can’t get anywhere with a women these days unless he lies to her. Apparently, It’s now our job to make you women “feel” special, different even, especially in the beginning;
the truth is you ain’t no different than my last. If I didn’t lie to you to “make you feel special” whatever that means, you wouldn’t be my next. IJS
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
10:32 am
I see Courtside Seats apparently swims on the shallow end of the pool…lololol
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
10:35 am
MikeP – I feel like you spit all over my screen with your 10:31. Hold on while I get my screen cleaner….I KID I KID
disco
December 17th, 2012
10:35 am
S/H – agreed but at least if you ask me a specific question you have a greater chance of getting an answer than you do of me just feeling chatty, running off at the mouth and spilling the beans.
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
10:39 am
Morning All!
On topic – There are many folks that have unfortunate ideas about the opposite sex they learned from their parents and/or the environment they came from. Those kinds of things are hard to shake unless the person is able to recognize that these things are not “normal” and commit to not making the same mistakes. They may need counseling to rid themselves of these issues. Like if a guy grew up seeing his dad beat his mom or talk to her nasty, he might think that’s the way it’s suppose to be. And this guy’s sister, who grew up in the same house with him, sees her mom getting beat and thinks that’s what she should expect from a man. It can be a vicious cycle.
In my dating past, I came across many men dealing with bad habits or ideas they “inherited”. To the outside world, these people may appear to have it together. Some I let go and others admonished me about “why would you let such a GOOD man go?” They had no idea. That’s why I can’t judge others and what they choose to deal or not deal with.
These are also reasons why I don’t advocate staying together for the children. It’s unhealthy for children to grow up seeing some of the things their parents do to each other. Things that will be far harder for them to deal with years down the line than a divorce. I know alot of folks that would disagree with me, but I feel how I feel.
Hey Mike P, long time no read ya, hope all is well. You feel how you feel, but I wonder how that attitude towards women is working out for you and how successful your relationships are because of it?
A lot of men(and yes some women) lie not because they feel the person can’t handle it, but because they themselves can’t handle the possible reaction of the other person. They want to control how that other person is going to take the truth. They don’t want to be accountable for something they themselves did. That other person can handle the truth just fine – may not be the way YOU want them to handle it, but they can handle it!
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
10:42 am
Well, anything can be a crutch if you want to make excuses. Just like there are kids that watch their parents be drunks or drug addicts, abusers and decide no way I’m growing doing this same thing, and go another direction, so can dudes that use the excuse of I did it cause my mama/daddy did it or because it was done to me. Excuses, I tell ya. There are sooo many success stories where people made changes because they wouldn’t accept the subpar standard of living they were raised in.
Courtside Seats!!! Caught on the Kiss Cam :)
December 17th, 2012
10:43 am
Celisea…Not at all… But the truth is sometimes a guy just wants to be in the company of a woman with being deeply involved….Sometimes that will require that he stretch teh truth or even outright lie…When women get to a point where they can let go of the fluff and just ” roll with it” the need to lie or hold back or mis-represent or whatever will go away…..But until teh ladies get to that point….
Dude – ” Of course I am looking for a long term realtionship” In fact I want to one day find a woman just like you!”
( In his mind Yup….Thin, 34/26/34 Great job and a mortgage with just a hint in freak in her voice…)
Chick- ” I want to build towards marriage”
( In her mind ” I hope he calls me after I put this Supa dupa PSK (porn star kitty) on him)
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
10:46 am
man it is so nice to be older and wiser, cause I can’t remember being young and stupid
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
10:49 am
Courtside Seats – I’m gonna agree with most of your 1st paragraph…not all most. Yep, I too think women wanna just roll with it as well, without getting all deep….at first. After a while though (as with anything in life), you want more. It ain’t cool “just kicking it” or “rolling with it” after a year or so….IJS No one is asking any man to be an open book day one, but something is wrong or not adding up if you just wanna kick it…and that’s all….after months Either you’re rolling with more than one or you ain’t really feeling ole girl to the point of taking things to the next level. At that point, BE HONEST. Don’t say it’s here. As a man, you already know she’s gonna want more and not just “roll with it” eternally.
As for your 2 and 3 paragraphs, ummm, okie dokie and okay…lol I’m not 36-24-36. Great job is relative and mortgage, well yeah that should be happening for most grown folks. Can’t speak to putting the porn star kitty on folks either. Just give me a great session/evening…whatever that means.
Maybe you should change some of how you view things, eh? lol
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
10:51 am
Hey Courtside – Maybe you’re in the wrong areana….i.e. dating. Maybe you should be with the FWBs folks. Seems like that would be a better fit for you. A woman is not wrong for wanting more. FWB folks are probably more suited for your lifestyle/wants (from what you just posted).
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
10:57 am
There are sooo many success stories where people made changes because they wouldn’t accept the subpar standard of living they were raised in.
Celesea – I agree wholeheartedly. In fact, most folks I know didn’t grow up in fairyland and had to overcome something from their childhood. And yes, alot have a tendancy to use alot of those experiences as a crutch/excuse. But the human psyche can be strange. While something a person experiences might be bad, it is familiar, what they know, and they can be bound to repeat it. Like I have a real hard time thinking someone would abuse their kid after they were abused, but it happens every day. Or some folks have the exact opposite reaction. My hubs is a preacher’s kid and grew up in a strict household. In contrast, he’s alot more laid back in his childrearing.
People just have a lot less patience and understanding when it comes to bad dating habits, and rightly so. I’m sorry your daddy hit your mom, but you’re not laying a hand on me!
And just like people pick up on the bad they were raised around, they also pick up on the good and repeat that as well.
Mike P
December 17th, 2012
10:58 am
The truth is, we can’t be really honest and tell you how we feel inside, or what we’re thinking.
The truth is, we can’t be really honest and tell you the real reason we asked you out.
DuShawn
December 17th, 2012
11:03 am
When I was dating, I was never much of a liar. However, I would tell a woman what she wanted to hear if it facilitated the dropping of the panties. If you’re not in a committed relationship, what is there to lie about? If you’re married or committed and cheating, you have to lie if you want to stay together. When you come home late and your girl ask where you were, you can’t say “I was at Kiesha’s house getting served.” You have to say, “I was with the fellas watching the game.” A female playa potnah of mine once told me “You lie to the one you love, but tell the truth to them hoes in the street”. That’s real talk.
Ideally, one should be honest and faithful, but if you’re living foul her logic applies. You may have to lie to wifey, but you must be truthful with all the other women. They must be aware of her and they have to respect her position. That way if your paths cross in public, your hoes would govern themselves accordingly.
Bluzgirl
December 17th, 2012
11:04 am
Morning all!
Honestly, I can’t really concentrate enough on anything this morning, so I can’t comment on the topic. LOL! I’ve been sick and thought I was better, but feeling bad again this morning. Also, I can’t seem to stay away from news sites and I really need to because it’s affecting me. I’m just sad about it all.
Anyway…I may pop in later if I feel like I can actually comprehend what everyone says! Need some light heartedness today!
disco
December 17th, 2012
11:06 am
kimmie – great spin. the liar can’t handle the person’s reaction to the truth.
mike p – the truth is not that you can’t so much as you won’t. let’s just call spades spades up in this camp today.
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
11:07 am
Kimmie – Yep, yep and yep!!
MikeP – Have you tried being honest?? No one is going to judge you for your thoughts…not a real woman. For me, it’s a given (maybe it shouldn’t be), that a dude is thinking the physical, initially. I think the onus is on the woman to show him she’s much more than that, and then on him to determine if he wants more than that. If not, don’t lie, move it along to someone that can accomodate exactly what you desire = FWB. But, don’t say a woman can’t handle the truth if she’s not accepting of the fact that you don’t want too much out of her other than hanging out sometimes. She’s not broken for not being able to do what you want. You just need to find someone that fits into what works for you. Trust me, there are plenty probably wanting the exact same thing out of the deal as you. You can’t though, want the creme dela creme, while bringing less than par mentality and behaviors.
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
11:10 am
Mike P/Courtside – It just doesn’t appear that attitude is working for you. If you could point to how thinking and acting the way you do is paying off in a positive way and why others should try it, okay. Why it’s fun to have you on here to make conversation, that’s all you seem to have to offer.
Also, if the women you came in contact treated you the same way and lied, then you’d come on complaining that you can’t meet a woman that’s honest.
The two of you can’t handle the honesty from women unless it’s what YOU want to hear, admit it!
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
11:12 am
A female playa potnah of mine once told me “You lie to the one you love, but tell the truth to them hoes in the street”. That’s real talk.
I’ll just say this and get on off….this right here is what makes a cheater delusional. While you may think absolutely nothing of your hOes and belittle all your jump offs, your wife is the one no one wants to be or envy. She’s the one you show absolutely no respect for. She’s the one you’re cheating on. It’s not the jump offs getting mistreated, they’re in it for what they’re in it for. However, your wife ain’t in it for the utter disrespect shown. Oh, I can just bet the hOes and jumpoffs are all laughing cause they know what’s up and you (not you) konw what’s up, she’s the only lump lump in the equation. IJS
Leggs
December 17th, 2012
11:13 am
How about this for the truth:
I know a guy who likes me, but I’m not feeling him. He’s trying to get into a relationship with a woman, but hadn’t seen her in 3 weeks. He told me about her a while ago. He was honest and told me he was “trying” to get to know her better because it seems that they are quite compatible. Well, he calls Saturday evening asking if I was going out later. Told him I might be. He’s going to a party, but not sure if he would be having a good time because it seems they sit around and talk w/music in the background. He’s 61 (lol). Anyway, he asked if he should leave the party early could he come by later. WHAT THE HELL! Do I look stupid! No doubt he was being honest, so I had to be honest in turn. Told him, I’m not the one to call up because your evening isn’t going as planned with your new girl. You know me better than to think you can go out with one woman, tell me about it, then ask if you can come over and spend time with me. NOPE! If you don’t like the party, take your a$$ home.
DuShawn
December 17th, 2012
11:14 am
This weekend was unbelievable. Sometimes I wish the things I exprience could be recored.
Courtside Seats!!! Caught on the Kiss Cam :)
December 17th, 2012
11:16 am
“That way if your paths cross in public, your hoes would govern themselves accordingly.”
Thats funny and real talk… But the truth is, I never run across the true Hoes in public…….
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
11:16 am
The two of you can’t handle the honesty from women unless it’s what YOU want to hear, admit it!
Exactly and here here!! lololololol
Leggs
December 17th, 2012
11:17 am
Celisea ~ I definitely agree with &rarr: your wife is the one no one wants to be or envy. She’s the one you show absolutely no respect for. She’s the one you’re cheating on. It’s not the jump offs getting mistreated, they’re in it for what they’re in it for. However, your wife ain’t in it for the utter disrespect shown
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
11:20 am
Leggs – That’s the one funny that I can NEVER understand. How cheaters REEEAAALLLY think they got it going on but their wife is getting mistreated far above anyone else in the equation. It’s funny how a dude thinks little of his hOes, but I can bet it’s a business and a lifestyle they’ve decided upon and cool with how it rolls. And if they did see the wifey in public they’re thinking dude ain’t worth two wooden nickels and his wife gotta either be slow or looking the other way. I find no pride in walking on the arm of of a philander or cheater as the wife. Nuh uh.
Leggs
December 17th, 2012
11:20 am
DuShawn ~ glad the two of you had a great time. I know your wife felt loved! Very nice weekend you had planned!!!!
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
11:21 am
But I will say this, it couldn’t be me…if I saw the wifey in public. Nuh uh, none of that stay in your place and be nice. I would be all out with it…lololololol
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
11:22 am
disco – That’s how I’ve always spinned it really. Most folks are scared of what the other person’s reaction is going to be to the truth. For example – “if I tell her I don’t want a serious girlfriend, she won’t sleep with me”, “if I tell my wife I slept with my coworker on that business trip, she will leave me”, etc.
They don’t want to face the possible consequences of their actions. Got nothing to do with “oh she can’t handle it if I tell her the truth” . No, you want to be able to sleep with who you want when you want and not commit to one person and still be able to sleep with her. You want to be able to get it off your chest that you slept with your coworker and your wife say “oh that’s okay honey, I’m sure you were just a little tipsy and didn’t know what you were doing” In my book, if you scared to do the time, don’t do the crime.
Leggs
December 17th, 2012
11:23 am
Celiesa ~ I remember telling a guy years ago that his wife was fool if she didn’t think he was out messing around on her. He said she “had no idea.” I politely informed not to take those words to heart. She may know more than you think she knows. Told him to always remember a “thin line between love and hurt.” They are now divorced for many reasons, along with infidelity!!
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
11:26 am
Leggs – Or those wives that beat cheating husbands at their own game. You know, those women that look the other way while getting in where they fit in. Honestly, I can’t speak to many folks and that behavior but I know one or two that felt like, oh okay you wanna go there, bet I can do it better. And him, NONE THE WISER. So, while he’s out hOing and getting over on his hOes and wife, she’s getting under and getting in. It ain’t right, but hey what can you say?
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
11:27 am
Thats funny and real talk… But the truth is, I never run across the true Hoes in public……….
@ Courtside…
u wldnt recognize them coz they dont have banners that read:’Real H0′……………..on their foreheads!
Leggs
December 17th, 2012
11:27 am
Celisea ~ reminds me of Johnny Taylor’s “Who’s Making Love to Your Old Lady, while you’re out making love….”
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
11:29 am
Leggs – Okaaaay….that’s why he made the song. Cause it’s true and no doubt he was on the “getting in” end of things while her man/hubby was out making love….lololol
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
11:29 am
MMeello – What’s a real hOe from a fake hOe?
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
11:30 am
MMeello – You still coming Thursday?
Courtside Seats!!! Caught on the Kiss Cam :)
December 17th, 2012
11:33 am
Kimmie, Thats the rub… I know that sometimes women lie to me….In fact on most occasions I can see the lie as its coming out of her mouth. The key is that because i know and understand what I am dealing with, I am not moved by the lie. When we are at dinner and she gets a text and looks up and say “My sister”.. I know from the way she faintly smiled, that it was not her sister. While I understand that this “dance may or may not be nessasary, it is a part of the dating world for a single guy that has no interest in being married, or having kids, or finding a person to grow old with…. I have made a personal choice to live a more “carefree” life…… So working the edges is ok for me….sometimes that might involve shooting the isht to someone that is not aware of whats happening…kinda like the baby dear that wonders to close to the edge of the pond…..right before the giant croc Jumps out and BAM!!!!!
DuShawn
December 17th, 2012
11:35 am
Leggs/Celisea – If everyone plays their position, no one is getting mistreated. Theoretically, you are disrespecting your wife by being unfaithful, but in actuality she’s happy because she is oblivious. The mistress is being treated fairly, so she’s cool. It’s a great situation, until the inevitable happens and you get caught.
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
11:37 am
What’s a real hOe from a fake hOe?
fake H0e is wify,when u urge her to put on the spanax and high boots on and urg her put it on u …upstairs….
Real H0e wants to knowigly enjoy where another woman has already staked a spot and may do it for a quid for quo but not necessarily always….she may just want it for the Fu c k of it….
Cel..what time Thursday….Im a house dad these days and that means school droppings and pickings are on me as well as Bbaskball practice…..I forgot that when I made the commitment…
i do have lunchtime business in Alpharatta Thursday but will need to dash home soon after..
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
11:39 am
Leggs/Celisea – If everyone plays their position, no one is getting mistreated. Theoretically, you are disrespecting your wife by being unfaithful, but in actuality she’s happy because she is oblivious. The mistress is being treated fairly, so she’s cool. It’s a great situation, until the inevitable happens and you get caught
Man you got to love that logic (LOL)
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
11:40 am
Just wow at Courtside’s 11:33. I ached a little for you (maybe I shouldn’t)
and I ached a bit for your wife, Dushawn in your 11:35. If you like, she’s in oblivion and your hOes are cool with it, I say roll on. Just know though, I wouldn’t want to be the wifey in this equations. Your hOes are better positioned. At least they’re getting the truth from you. Wifey? Nothing but lies and deception.
Okay, I’m out of here for a while….
Leggs
December 17th, 2012
11:41 am
Oblivious in this instance is a negative, so to use happy along with it makes it sting even more.
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
11:42 am
MMeello – 7pm, Pappadeaux on Windy Hill
Leggs – You still coming?
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
11:43 am
been doing bball moves with my 7 year old….me being a sporty guy..i can see the progress..dude is gon be a bball star is he keeps on it and motivated….
Of all the sports we have tried,golf,tennis,baseball…he has taken to bball a lot and has moves to show for it..soccer next but…..im having to readjsut my portfolio coz he may retire me in 9 years when he signs a junior soccer contract or in 12 years..to the big leagues bbball.
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
11:45 am
I have a feeling all of you men are gonna bail….as usual, lol Right now, I’m looking forward to Lady, Leggs and myself (and I wish Sassy).
Leggs
December 17th, 2012
11:45 am
Celisea ~ thanks, but I won’t be able to make it. ENJOY!
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
11:46 am
Oppp, Lady and me (and Blackfoote…so he says). Lady if you’re reading, it’s just you, me and Blackfoote…lolololol
Leggs
December 17th, 2012
11:46 am
If I can maneuver day’s schedule, I will try to make it.
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
11:46 am
Cel..7 pm is not possible for me….reqal tough…
but enjoy..its ur birfday?
Is ur guy gone be there? ..Damn i misssed that. lol
DuShawn
December 17th, 2012
11:48 am
.”…….I ached a bit for your wife,” -Celisea- My comments are hypothetical. I don’t cheat. If you knew my wife, you wouldn’t ache for her you would envy her. By the way, I’m way beyond the level of having hoes and mistresses…….I prefer sister wives.
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
11:50 am
Cel..i think u scared all the men who were pondering on hovering on u..when u indicated u have a new guy. now….
I am not part of the outside blog chatter but I do know back then when All single blog women were part of the chatter…..
I cant disclose more for fear of viloating Men_Law code 9 ,Article 5, amended, page 236!!
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
11:50 am
Dushawn – I would NEVER envy any woman. My life is good! The way you reminisce is enough for me not to. Oh, the sister wives thingy, yeah, um okay….lol Do ya thing.
DuShawn
December 17th, 2012
11:57 am
-Celisea- “if I saw the wifey in public. Nuh uh, none of that stay in your place and be nice.” This type of thinking is why you will never be a good hoe…..:)
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
11:58 am
MMeelo – My guy coming…heck no! lololol Too soon
Mmeelo – I scared all the dudes away cause I’m booed? Trust me, in my blog experience, I have yet (well, not now, I’m not talking to folks offline) to see a dude that really wanted something. It’s mostly been smoke screens and IMO/experience, how far they could go. Not interested.
One dude (who shall remain nameless) emailed me one night late = Didn’t want nothing
I posted going to Orlando = Dude (who shall remain nameless), asked me if he could meet up with me there
Ummm, NOT!! Didn’t want nothing
Another dude (who shall remain nameless) = No comment…lol
Another dude (who shall remain nameless) = No comment…lol
Another dude (who shall remain nameless) = No comment…lol
IJS…I felt half the time it was the same person and the other half, folks trying to see how far they could go with shenanigans.
I could be wrong though….lololol
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
11:58 am
Dushawn – This type of thinking is why you will never be a good hoe…..:)
I’ll take that as a compliment
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
12:00 pm
Mmeello – You bailed…why am I not surprised. It’s okay though…lol
Leggs
December 17th, 2012
12:02 pm
-Celisea- “if I saw the wifey in public. Nuh uh, none of that stay in your place and be nice.” This type of thinking is why you will never be a good hoe…..:)
Dushawn ~ you want Celisea to act like the lyrics in SWonder’s song “Part-time Lovers”
♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸♥¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪
Call up, ring once, hang up the phone
To let me know you made it home
Don’t want nothing to be wrong with part-time lover
If she isn’t with me I’ll blink the lights
To let you know tonight’s the night
For me and you my part-time lover
We are undercover passion on the run
Chasing love up against the sun
We are strangers by day, lovers by night
Knowing it’s so wrong, but feeling so right
If I’m with friends and we should meet
Just pass me by, don’t even speak
Know the word’s “discreet” with part-time lovers
♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸♥¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
12:06 pm
I wld have wanted to meet Cel..honestly..i made the commitment without even thinking….my bad…
Now Cel,as to ur experiences with blog folks….see..why i have been pillloried when i said folks dont take internet meets that seriously….when folks meet a chic online..theyre thinking bootey…
not that i know these men nor have i discussed with them nor know them but thats just my take……
I dont know, i want to see a women thats worth their salt(in beauty,character,career etc) thats gon say,”i met my dude on abc website”…..u know the old joke of afrcan men and their white chics who seem off…….yea!
that stigma,at least for me will stay unless i see better…..
disco
December 17th, 2012
12:09 pm
kimmie – I get it. It’s just that when they were saying old girl couldn’t handle my mind went straight to all the old girls who don’t want the truth. they want to keep on living the lie of their relationship being all good.
ex – maybe he meant he never runs into his hoes, not hoes in general. lol.
courtside – re the dinner text. I was out to dinner recently and a couple was seating nearby. they were all lovey dovey, handholding and leaning in and whatnot. eventually the chick got up to go to the restroom. dude watched her cross the room, watched her turn the corner and then grabbed his phone and read/sent a message and cold smooth put his phone away. I was sitting at my table grinning and shaking my head. it could have been nothing but the way he was watching the doorway leading to the restrooms said it was something.
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
12:11 pm
Mmeello – Online or not, I’m always thinking “bootey”, but I’ll give a worthy (don’t misunderstand that word) dude, the benefit of the doubt. At least so I can show him, I’m worth more than a romp or roll in the hay. But yeah, I’m not taking offline stuff serious. Shoot, I’m not taking too much in person stuff serious….lolololol
Don’t know the joke about African men and white chicks but I’m negative when it comes to online stuff. That includes, skping and webcams….nah, I’ll take a pass
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
12:11 pm
Anybody seen pics of Beyonce’s baby?
I was listening to a station on Seriuus radio and they say Beyonce’s camp aint happpy:
Blue Ivy looks exactly like her Dad……
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
12:12 pm
MMeello – My sister says the baby now favors Jay-Z….and she said that was a negative…lol
Let me get to work
Lady~smirk!
December 17th, 2012
12:13 pm
popping in! Waving @ C! What’s the topic about?!?
disco
December 17th, 2012
12:14 pm
re all these good hoes, just last week I was mentioning an acquaintance who wanted to send a hotel receipt to wifey. turns out she has been keeping a file on old boy the whole time. shoot, I almost wonder if wifey hired her. lol. she’s got receipts, pictures, copies of documents that she shouldn’t have (his credit cards etc). she’s ready to blow up the spot. guess she’s not a good hoe either.
ex – that’s funny. I haven’t seen pics of blue since she was born.
kimmie/leggs – y’all ready to discuss scandal?
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
12:14 pm
Heeeey there Lady! What’s crackalackin? How was your weekend? Nothing much it seems going on in here. Just throwing comments back and forth…lol
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
12:15 pm
Cel..the joke is unless the black man got money,and hes just jow blow like me,no way u gon snag a decent white chic..u snag one white chic,shes off…
now a chic that gets a guy online,theyre both off…
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
12:15 pm
disco – We must have worn the topic out too much for you….lol
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
12:16 pm
Mmeello – Ummm, okay then. Imma pass on making any comments on that one.
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
12:17 pm
Queen and i were cracking at that Blue Ivy stuff….
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
12:18 pm
Essence Atkins was born in New York City, New York. In September 2009, Atkins married collegiate football free safety Jaime Mendez, whom she met through the online dating service Match.com
Ex is she worth her weight in salt?
Mike P
December 17th, 2012
12:18 pm
See, you all are proving my point, I told you all what has been my experience with dealing with women but, instead of listening to what I was saying and accepting it. you all went on and made presumptions about me, my desires, and my character, trying to explain away what you all think is going on with me, you all were putting your own snide comments in to my mix – Rejected
I firmly stand by my originally statement: Women cannot handle the man who is NOT “less-than” honest with her.
and for the record;
the more honest I was with her, the less-successful I became.
the more I fibbed here and there, the more successful I became… FACT!!
disco
December 17th, 2012
12:19 pm
C – naw. not really. I just remember last week kimmie wanted to talk scandal and I don’t think leggs or I had seen it yet. I can talk cheating ninjas (and trifling chicks) all day. I got stories out the wazoo on that one.
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
12:20 pm
@Disco…now u think she got too much money not to sell them on People?
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
12:24 pm
Ex is she worth her weight in salt?
@Sinlge..I dont know, i wish i knew her (story) to be able to say…shes pretty….her voice is off..funny tho…
i know her from the sitcom
disco
December 17th, 2012
12:24 pm
ex – beyonce’s baby was gonna bring in some bucks whether she looked like bey, jay or Quasimodo. folks want to see what folks want to see.
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
12:26 pm
Ex, so you know all the others (story) since you say they’re just looking for booty?
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
12:26 pm
MikeP – You just sprayed my screen again….lololol
Oh, ummm okay!!
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
12:29 pm
so you know all the others (story) since you say they’re just looking for booty?
@Single…maybe to put U at ease..what im saying aint fact………
a stigma or perception aint rooted,necessarily in fact….
Does that help?
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
12:33 pm
Ex, you can’t put me at ease i’m not uptight! it’s not serious enough for me to bring it up all the time.
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
12:34 pm
@Sinlge..my fables are like ur Old women’s folk lore,tree bark medicines…just practices and legends not necessarily rooted in science….they may have a palliative effect but thats as far as it goes….
…..so dont worry about my short men,online ..fables…
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
12:36 pm
i’m not uptight! it’s not serious enough for me to bring it up all the time.
@Single
but serious enough for U to notice what i say Aleways and want to debunk my myths and respond…ha.?
i like that logic
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
12:36 pm
Dude I don’t worry about any of your fables (issues) they are yours not mine!
DuShawn
December 17th, 2012
12:39 pm
-Leggs-”I’m not the one to call up because your evening isn’t going as planned with your new girl”….Now if he would have omitted the part about the party and new girl he may have had an opportunity to be with you. This is why men get conditioned to lie. He told the truth and got no action.
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
12:45 pm
Disco…i dont think they should worry too much,if they are..shes gon grow and be a good blend.
@Single..thanx…I can breathe better now knowing u dont care bout what i post…
Leggs
December 17th, 2012
12:45 pm
You’re right DuShawn. He told the truth and so did I. The truth didn’t bother me. His way of looking at me was what bothered me. The truth definitely helps me navigate. That’s all I need. He told me about new girl a few months back. That was the truth that I’m working with. If it doesn’t work out, you might be able to holler at me (if I’m feeling you too). BUT, you won’t holler at me while I’m aware you’re hollering at her.
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
12:48 pm
Dushawn..if a chic says”shes seeing other folks”, whatever that means but gives u some action,all the way…are u gon see her beyond just some neck?
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
12:51 pm
Mike P – Whatever works for you. I didn’t presume nothing about you cause I really don’t care!LOL!!
Disco – I gonna run out for a minute, and then when I’ m back, lets’s discuss!
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
12:59 pm
He told the truth and got no action.
That proves what I was saying to Disco, though it need no proof. You don’t tell the truth because it won’t get you what you want, not that the other person can’t handle it. They just may not “handle it” the way you want! Dushawn, these women are out here holding guns to yalls heads, forcing you to lie, you poor dears!
Disco – Yep, those ladies don’t necessarily want the truth, cause they know they will have to deal with it. They are happy living out the lie. I’m just sick of dudes thinking everyone is stuck on stupid. The man probably knows if he tells his wife straight up he has been dipping out, she may decide to divorce him, which will cost money (cheaper to keep her) etc. All along, she knows, but does not want to give up her lifestyle. They are playing each other.
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
1:14 pm
but serious enough for U to notice what i say Aleways and want to debunk my myths and respond…ha.?
So you think I ALWAYS respond to your post (rotflmao) Like you said, your MYTHS. Posting on social media and don’t expect people to respond!
Leggs
December 17th, 2012
1:16 pm
Single, I had the same problem.
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
1:19 pm
I dont have a problem anybody responding…i have a problem when u get sore..
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
1:25 pm
I’m back
Disco, are you around? Well, here goes:
I thought the remote control sniper rifle thing was brilliant!
I knew ole girl was gonna set Huck up and not show. The sex scene with them on top of all the pictures was wild!
The sex scene with Abby & David was crazy! I can’t stand Abby, but I like David! I watched Oprah’s interview with Kerry Washington & Shonda Rhimes the creator of the show. They took a tour of the set, and the chick that plays Abby yelled out “I hope you are not on Team Hate Abby too!”
I liked that the gay reporter is hip that his husband knows about his election-stealing investigation.
It was a great episode to me, I liked it!
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
1:26 pm
Sore, umm who gets sore? you really take this to serious if you think I get sore at your post because I respond to something you posted, even when you try to push my buttons! It takes more than that to get me sore.
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
1:27 pm
I dont have a problem anybody responding…i have a problem when u get sore..
Another example of what I’ve been saying today!!LOL! Folks want to control your reaction to the truth, can’t handle it when you don’t respond the way they want you to!!
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
1:28 pm
so no PC blogging for u Kimmie?
I wld agree..
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
1:31 pm
In view of the shootings in CT, i really wanted to post something ground breaking..
to alleviate these shootings…like ankle bracelets/monitors for all consumers of mind altering drugs or those wiith mental issues and diagnised as such….i got a PC cold shlder.
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
1:33 pm
The truth, the truth, you can’t handle the truth!! (lmao)
Leggs
December 17th, 2012
1:33 pm
kimmie ~ remote control sniper was indeed BRILLIANT. Recorded Oprah’s interview with Shonda Rhimes.
I “felt” Huck was there cleaning up, but not behind himself.
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
1:36 pm
I’m going in the ankle bracelet business then!! cause everybody can be diagnosed with something. But the funny thing is, most of these people did nothing more that ACT strange, never diagnosed with anything. Hind sight is always 20/20
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
1:38 pm
@Single…..why wld my posts be pushing Anybodys buttons,let alone urs Single…..??
see…….u feel my posts are targeted at U..when I dont know U personally?
How do I even push ur buttons?
maaan……
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
1:41 pm
yea..Anything is not mental health tho
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
1:42 pm
Hmm lets see
…..so dont worry about my short men,online ..fables…
Cause that’s what everyone has been posting about all day right??
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
1:44 pm
…..so dont worry about my short men,online ..fables…
u really are good..Single!
DuShawn
December 17th, 2012
1:44 pm
“if a chic says”shes seeing other folks”, whatever that means but gives u some action,all the way…are u gon see her beyond just some neck?
-Ex- The answer to your question is yes. If we were just dating, I would expect her to be with other people. Giving me some would not make her any less of a lady….it just proves she is capable of making wise decisions.
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
1:46 pm
Ex most of these killers didn’t have mental health issues until after the fact! and then it’s just going off the fact that people just don’t see how a sane person could have done what they did.
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
1:47 pm
it just proves she is capable of making wise decisions.
U the best DuShawn!
Leggs
December 17th, 2012
1:47 pm
“…it just proves she is capable of making wise decisions.” – Had to laugh at this.
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
1:51 pm
Single…this kid has issues by all accounts..that dude who shot at Giffords….well, all u had to do was look at his mug..dude is way off,just by the pic….
some of the meds that docs prescribe are mental drugs…that diagnosis alone shld be good enough to put someone on watch list…..
the fact that that watchlist is not there presently makes the kilings and investigatioin after look like it should have been common sense…….
The gun lobby in this country cares more for animals and hunting than live folks…they put a lot of money in that lobbying for guns..rather than finding solutions that wld limit the flow of ‘cows milk’ from guns sales.
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
2:03 pm
Ex, judging books by their covers, had these people not committed these acts they would still be walking around today un-diagnosed, just a little strange, just like the next one is!! These people it more for the fame and glory than having mental issues. people will remember them more than will the victims!
Sassy Me...Juicy Fruit ;-)
December 17th, 2012
2:13 pm
really
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
2:14 pm
This guy will forever be known as the SHES killer, then we have the Colorado movie killer not to be confused with the Colorado School killers, the Virginia Tech Killer, the 9/11 hijackers, the centeninial park bomber, the Oklahoma city bomber, the fort hood killer, the Gifford killer, some people can name most of these people by name, but can’t name any of the victims, besides the senator?
disco
December 17th, 2012
2:14 pm
kimmie – I’m back. first off I agree with abby and david. she came off as skanky and no good from the very first episode. I hope she doesn’t get him hemmed up. I also really like huck and I don’t like that they are taking him through this mess. janky trick. I do like that he checked old boy right quick. talking about you gone have to go through me. huck put him down quick fast in a hurry. also, they need to go ahead and regulate on president lady chick. she’s too daggone conniving.
Exiled!
December 17th, 2012
2:15 pm
Single..more than a million folks have died since JFK and mlk were killed and I bet most of the killers are nutt folks..
It’s not a coincidence.
At least take away the semi from non commercial/army use
and if a person wants a gun,make them jump hoop and proper pre-training on safety etc
If a gun gets into the hands of an unauthorized person,as is the case in CT..mandatory 10+ years felon.
That way folks get serious if they Really need a gun.
The ooohood’ thing happening with the CT shooting is that she died from her own guns she didn’t adequately secure.
If she were alive,she wld have to be locked up 15+ years if it wld be up to me. If not life!
25 innocent people died coz u want to do target shooting?
can’t have that!
Exiled!
December 17th, 2012
2:17 pm
‘good’ thing
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
2:19 pm
also, they need to go ahead and regulate on president lady chick. she’s too daggone conniving.
LOL!! I agree!!!
I really like Huck too!
On that Oprah episode, they interview the real-life “Olivia Pope” (minus the messing with the Prez, of course). She was cool. She helped out Monica Lewinsky and Wesley Snipes with their messes.
disco
December 17th, 2012
2:22 pm
kimmie – I didn’t see oprah but I did hear her on a tom joyner radio interview last year. she sounded ‘bout it. btw, you commented last week that Olivia managed to get through an entire episode without tearing up. I’ll give her props if she can make it through the next one and the next one after that.
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
2:22 pm
I wish you guys watched Homeland and Dexter. They had their season finale’s last night. Some truly exceptional tv there. I fully expect both, especially Homeland, to clean up at the Emmys.
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
2:22 pm
okay everyone’s killing me with this adequately secure, were’ talking a 20 year old man, not a 10 year old kid that killed his mother, how do you know they weren’t secured and he took the key from her!! 25 people did because they were the targets! sad but true.
So if someone breaks in my house steals my gun, and kills someone, I should go to jail!
Leggs
December 17th, 2012
2:22 pm
disco/kimmie ~ watch out for the President’s wife. She too is conniving and sneaky!!
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
2:23 pm
I’ll give her props if she can make it through the next one and the next one after that.
LOL!!!
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
2:26 pm
Leggs – I’m glad the Prez’s wife got her own agenda!LOL!! It would be so dull if she was a dutiful Stepford wife. Adds to the drama, I love it!!
That Vice Prez now Acting Prez is the real trip though!! Trying to get that woman to resign from the Supreme Court, she’s off the chain!!
disco
December 17th, 2012
2:28 pm
leggs – yes. millie (is that her name?) is conniving and ambitious but I’ve already declared that I respect her game. that president chick is just dirty and I ain’t feeling her.
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
2:28 pm
Ex we live in a country that has more rights and freedoms than anyone else, unfortunately with the good comes the bad! We can’t keep our all our freedoms and regulate everything.
Leggs
December 17th, 2012
2:29 pm
Exactly, kimmie. Was telling a friend that I like the fact the President’s wife’s role isn’t reduced to being a dutiful, attentive First Lady. She has a lot up her sleeves (lol).
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
2:32 pm
I guess we finished the topic huh? lolol
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
2:33 pm
I was soooo not a fan of Scandal. I’ve been watching it and I’m getting into it
DuShawn
December 17th, 2012
2:34 pm
All along, she knows, but does not want to give up her lifestyle. They are playing each other……I disagree. I believe if a woman is with a man a significant amount of time she will have to tolerate some infidelity. As long as there are only suspicions and no proof, most women can deal. The poem below speaks to my point.
“City to city, all the groupies they hop along
Word get back, the wifey she like, “Stop the song”
“I’m takin the kids to my momma’s, I’m out, I’m gone! ” – whoa!
Momma was like, “Baby now, I hate to see your tears
But I been with your daddy for bout 35 years and in my day, I had to
Turn a blind eye to cheatin
But I ain’t never had to wear no black eyes from beatings
As long as he doin right, by you and the kids
How you gon expect that man not to be who he is?
I ain’t sayin that it’s right, but we often pay the price
Cause a woman’s life is love, a man’s love is life”
disco
December 17th, 2012
2:35 pm
kimmie/leggs – even though he can be a bit stodgy I like cyrus. that boyfriend of his is a piece of work on so many levels. no pun intended but he’s a little beeyotch. pitching a fit about not having a baby, taking the white house press job when he recognized the conflict, going behind cyrus’ back to get his investigative journalist on. he’s a trip. he’s acting like is out of his love for the job (and it may very well be) but I think it started out of spitefulness. they are going to mess around and make him disappear. lol.
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
2:44 pm
they are going to mess around and make him disappear. lol.
Okay Disco!!!LOL!!!
disco
December 17th, 2012
2:45 pm
dushawn – I think the word that hung your statement up is tolerate. I, too, am one of those that believes that most men stray a little bit or dabble here and there. I also think a lot of wives might turn a blind eye. I know many have told me that as long as their man is discreet and not embarrassing them they’ll go with the flow. still, even with all that I have to say a woman doesn’t have to tolerate a daggone thing. she may choose to but she doesn’t have to. and since I’m from the wish a ninja would tribe you can cool believe I ain’t tolerating a dang thing.
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
2:47 pm
Celisea – Good, I’m glad cause I need some Scandal friends to discuss the show with!!LOL!! One of my hub’s friends girlfriend is a big fan. She said she & her friends were going to have a Scandal party for the winter finale.
It’s coming back on January 10, so yall be ready!!
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
2:48 pm
Dushawn..that song wont play well with chics with no man,no marriage and none to lose….thats a wife’s song..not a single chic…
disco
December 17th, 2012
2:48 pm
kimmie – what did cyrus call him? i can’t recall but he meant it when he said it. lol.
DuShawn
December 17th, 2012
2:49 pm
she may choose to but she doesn’t have to. -Disco- I totally agree. “choose to tolerate” is much better stated.
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
2:52 pm
Dushawn/Disco – Just miss me with the “I lie cause I want to protect her feelings” excuse. No, you’re protecting your own behind, got nothing to do with protecting her!!
As for folks tolerating cheating, well everyone has their own tolerance level on things. Don’t play me for a fool. You don’t know what’s going on in people’s houses & relationships. There are folks out there tolerating a whole lot worse than cheating. This stuff these dudes come on here beyotching about is nothing.
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
2:53 pm
Disco – Yeah, Cyrus really got himself something!LOL!!
Into the Light
December 17th, 2012
2:53 pm
Afternoon, all!
Just popping in to say “hi”….
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
2:55 pm
can one persons actions, or in-actions cause another to cheat?
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
2:57 pm
“choose to tolerate” is much better stated
I keep remembering Elliot Spitzer’s wife, dutifully standing beside him as he read the apology statement about him and the paid beyotch.
That one is waaaay off,even if u were to consider the Monica and many others……
Many of these single chics dont know how it feels when the rubber actually hits the iron and she been with a man 25,35 40 years etc….
when u have skin in the game…u going to take a pause..not just blah blah blah….
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
2:58 pm
can one persons actions, or in-actions cause another to cheat?
Single – They can give them an excuse to cheat. A way to try to “justify” their actions.
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
2:58 pm
Kimmie – I’m hanging there. I was a bit turned around on this past episode but it help to see the one week before last….the recaps
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
3:03 pm
Kimmie why can’t the excuse be the truth? You’re in a relationship, one thinks everything is great, the other has a problem, the one that think things are great refuse to even consider the problems? you love them and you don’t want to leave, but things happen when you’re not looking for it.
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
3:04 pm
Exiled – A lot of single chick that have been with a guy for some time take a pause too. They feel they’ve got some “skin in the game” as well, and don’t want to get out there and start over trying to find and get to know someone else. So some weigh their options and “tolerate” if they feel if they just hang in there for that ring. There are men that don’t feel they have much going for themselves or many options that do the same, believe it or not.
It takes strength and high self esteem to not “tolerate” and take your ball and go home.
Leggs
December 17th, 2012
3:04 pm
Dushawn ~ must admit the lyrics are interesting.
disco ~ Cyrus’ SO is what we call a spineless, spiteful SOB!
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
3:04 pm
Who is talking about tolerating cheating. Dudes that have lived their lives scandalous are pretty jaded when it comes to love and relationships because they’ve only seen and dabbled in the crooked and wrong paths. Just because it’s been a practice and a way of life for those you’ve encountered is by no means the standard of living for all. It’s not naive to believe there are some folks that can walk the walk, walk it upright and do the dang thing. I’m just so looking at the negative outlook on women and their worth as seen through that sort of vision. I for one don’t tolerate BS. Never have, never will. And if that means going without a man, so be it. However, I’m not skewed or jaded enough to believe folks can’t do right. Will the majority? Probably not. Will a good dude…and I’m talking a good dude? Yes, he can. It ain’t true that all folks cheat and it ain’t true that women are so nothing that all they can know to do is tolerate.
Now, having said that, I’ve not read through the lastest postings so I could be waaaay off. I just saw someone mention “tolerate” and got to typing….lololol
Leggs
December 17th, 2012
3:07 pm
It takes strength and high self esteem to not “tolerate” and take your ball and go home.
Worth repeating! Kudos to all women and men who aren’t getting suckered/played!!!!
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
3:07 pm
unless they have kids…Kimmie…and a mortgage together…hmmm,
Sassy Me...Juicy Fruit ;-)
December 17th, 2012
3:07 pm
I believe if a woman is with a man a significant amount of time she will have to tolerate some infidelity. As long as there are only suspicions and no proof, most women can deal.
GTFOHWTBS…
disco
December 17th, 2012
3:10 pm
kimmie – I’m thinking pretty soon that will be “cyrus really had himself something”. dude keeps trying to play cyrus and cyrus is only going to be played with for so long. he loves him and all but he might just have to let him go.
come now blog ladies. for the sake of hilarity, can we tolerate the blog dudes and their insistence on tolerance just for one afternoon? lol.
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
3:12 pm
Single – I’m sure there are alot that will buy that bs you are selling. I’m not one of them.LOL!!
What one might consider problem enough to go outside the relationship, others may just see as a bump in the road or something to just tolerate. I mean, where do you draw the line?
The truth and the excuse are the same thing. If you step out cause I’ve decided not to bathe anymore, it’s the truth that I’m not bathing and the reason why you step out!!
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
3:13 pm
If a woman hangs in for the ring but his behind is cheating…..she’s taken…..Low self esteem……
DuShawn
December 17th, 2012
3:14 pm
can one persons actions, or in-actions cause another to cheat? …..Ultimately, everyone is responsible for their own decisions. However, your significant others actions, or lack thereof, can increase the probability of infidelity. One is far less likely to stray if everything is good at home.
Example: A man just completes a long, hard day of work and calls his wife on his way home. She immediately begins a tirade about what bills are due, the things he doesn’t do, blah, blah negative blah. Then he makes another call, to his mistress. She sweetly say’s “baby how was your day. I know you’re tired, I cooked dinner for you and got some of your favorite beer in the fridge. Why don’t you stop by and eat.” Which house do you think he will go to first?
In that scenario the wife’s action facilitated her husband getting home late.
disco
December 17th, 2012
3:16 pm
dushawn – hush. wifey didn’t facilitate anything if old boy already had a mistress’ number on the ready. nice try.
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
3:16 pm
I believe if a woman is with a man a significant amount of time she will have to tolerate some infidelity. As long as there are only suspicions and no proof, most women can deal.
GTFOHWTBS…
I just wanted to repost this….cause I think GTFOHWTBS sums up how I feel all in a nutshell
Courtside Seats!!! Caught on the Kiss Cam :)
December 17th, 2012
3:16 pm
“GTFOHWTBS…”
Ok…had to write that down to figure it out………
Then I giggled out loud….
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
3:18 pm
Exiled – Not every couple that has kids & a mortgage together are married, you do realize that? And for some, it takes way less than that for them to pick up and leave and they are not even married to the person.
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
3:19 pm
Courtside – GTFOHWTBS…the words for each letter just roooolllled off my tongue. Cause what buddy posted was some BS, wacked and somebody is on that stuff….
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
3:20 pm
Kimmie I’m not talking the serial cheater but the one time strayer, the ones that the problem can be fixed with a little communications and give and take.
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
3:23 pm
One is far less likely to stray if everything is good at home
Soooooooo, what’s the issue. How come we’re hearing all the stories of side hOes and stuff. Things weren’t good??? IJS
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
3:24 pm
Dushawn – I know what you are trying to say, but it’s really already in him to cheat, cause like Disco said, he’s got the mistress on speed dial all ready, just looking for an excuse to ring her up!LOL!!
Plus, while it might get on his nerves to be hit with his shortcomings after a long day at work. Mistress is sitting pretty cause she don’t have to deal with his dirty drawers and unpaid bills. She didn’t get hit with all the creditor calls on the answering machine or the electricity out cause he didn’t pay the bill, or the snotty nosed kids. She’s sitting at home, chillin, sipping wine! I’d be in a good mood too!!LOL!!
Leggs
December 17th, 2012
3:25 pm
Sassy ~ I read that and said “BS,” but felt something else.
You summed it up nicely…GTFOHWTBS!
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
3:27 pm
I’m bout ready to call BS on most of Dushawn’s stories. Nothing personal my man, but really?? I mean the stories are great for entertainment and making the blog day go by much faster but some days you’re sounding like you’re done and things are in the past, some days you’re remiscing to the point of “dang, I wanna go back” and some days you’re talking and eating wine and cheese with a potential side hOes, wondering if you should introduce wifey….
Hmmmmm, frackle nackle….mayhaps
Okay, don’t mind me I’m just avoiding work….lololol
Courtside Seats!!! Caught on the Kiss Cam :)
December 17th, 2012
3:27 pm
DuShawn has a point…… If there is someone outside that willing to make you good when the person that is inside either can’t or won’t…..well wifey did not make him go, but she sure as hell did nothing to stop him……….
Leggs
December 17th, 2012
3:27 pm
In that scenario the wife’s action facilitated her husband getting home late. – Naw, not at all. He operated on his own “free will.” He could have gone home and dealt with the issues of married life, the ups and the downs, or he could have gone to his “pretend” lifestyle and bask in misguided pleasure for a small spell.
He made his decision, not the wife.
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
3:28 pm
Single – All it takes is one time to destroy things. The problem must not have been as easy to fix as you say if it’s enough to make him/her step out. I see cheating as a symptom of a bigger problem.
I’d hate to think my relationship is on such thin ice. Or that either of us is that weak.
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
3:29 pm
Dushawn, bro, maybe if he didn’t have the mistress, the wife wouldn’t be going on a tirade! bills wouldn’t be due, they would be paid, and he’d be taking care of home.
Kimmie, he’s paying the mistresses bills that’s why she got dinner ready (LOL)
Sassy Me...Juicy Fruit ;-)
December 17th, 2012
3:30 pm
had to write that down to figure it out………
Then I giggled out loud….
Courtside I see you
We do alot of giggling out loud on this blog.
Cause what buddy posted was some BS, wacked and somebody is on that stuff….
Okay Celi?!…on that cheap stuff at that..
You summed it up nicely…
Thanks Leggs…
abc
December 17th, 2012
3:31 pm
You can’t ‘unlearn’. You can learn such that previous beliefs are proven incorrect, and thus your behavior can change.
As far as what makes a person cheat: as long as there’s a person who will do it with a married person, there will be married people who will hit it. It isn’t just the cheater who’s at fault, it’s the one who cheats with them, too. There’s not even much consideration for each other among the cheaters. What they do, after all, is make each other into adulterers.
disco
December 17th, 2012
3:31 pm
Kimmie – not to mention if the mistress is really on her game she might be the reason why he ain’t paying his bills at home. lol.
single – we were on the same wavelength I see.
Leggs
December 17th, 2012
3:31 pm
“well wifey did not make him go, but she sure as hell did nothing to stop him……….”
How she going to stop something she knows nothing about???
Leggs
December 17th, 2012
3:31 pm
Cuz let’s pretend she knows nothing about her husband sleeping with another woman!
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
3:34 pm
Sassy – on that cheap stuff at that..
Okay, I LOL’d on this…for real Like we use to ask on the blog a couple of years ago, where are they finding these people. It’s BS that you go out the back door cause the wife ain’t stroking you or having to deal with the ins and outs of marriage. You tuck tail and run to your hOe, all cause you don’t wanna face or you don’t wanna deal with it. Yeah, that’s reaaaal commendable. Great standup man/husband he is (that does that).
Dani
December 17th, 2012
3:34 pm
Disco- I am from I wish a ninja would tribe and so stated when we first met. I used be from I will f_up tribe but have since matured…lol
Single- I can speak from exerience on the one time cheater BS. You see to me it was not a motivation to communicate with him any further. What are we going to talk about how, when and where?
disco
December 17th, 2012
3:35 pm
dani – the tribes are very closely related. after all, just what is going to happen after the ninja does. lol.
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
3:35 pm
Kimmie, a friend of mine made a statement, he wanted to be married, and have kids, but he didn’t know that having kids would make him loose his wife. His complaint, everything they do they have to include their child, and this is with their extended family letting them know they can have a baby sitter any time they want to. He says he’s tried to talk to her about it, and she’s not hearing it. That’s a very easy fix.
Big problems are just small problem that weren’t solved right away!!
Leggs
December 17th, 2012
3:37 pm
Exactly, Celisea. Makes you wonder why did he get married, because all that takes place in a marriage. Disagreements over bills, how the children are being raised, among other things. To abandon ship simply because you’re not in the mood to hear something that you clearly took on by asking for her hand in marriage and having children together, don’t run to the hills with life’s reality plucks you on the forehead demanding your attention. And, I say pluck because it’s a soft nudge and not a hit over the head with a damn bat demanding your attention.
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
3:38 pm
Kimmie..if u are not married to dude…leave if u dont want to be compromised..if u stay,u comprnised for ever…
..
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
3:39 pm
Disco, you know we are one
Dani, were you the one time cheater or the one that got cheated on?
Kimmie, sometimes people need a wake up call.
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
3:41 pm
It isn’t just the cheater who’s at fault, it’s the one who cheats with them, too.
cheater + one who cheats with him = 2 cheaters
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
3:41 pm
Leggs – And if you don’t want to hear wifey, then pay the dang bills. And if you don’t want to hear about the kids (little badA’s) then, be the disciplinarian. But, don’t use that as a crutch to go do what you wanted to do. Folks do what they want. You don’t want to cheat? Then you won’t. You’ll deal with the everyday married life issues with your spouse. If all you need is a reason, well she can’t win for losing cause you’re gonna do it or fiiiind (said like Florida Evans) a reason anyway.
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
3:42 pm
Ex only one is at fault, that’s the one that said I Do!!
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
3:44 pm
if u are not married to dude…leave if u dont want to be compromised..if u stay,u comprnised for ever…
I agree with this pretty much. But I will say, I think marriage (not relationships and dating) is the only one thing where you need to think long and hard. And if the message of forgiveness of a cheater can resonate so much so that this is your first and last chance. Cause as copied above, you almost can’t forgive folks that cheat, they’ll only do it again cause they see it as a sign of weakness or they got over or they got away with it. You almost (again marriage the exception…somewhat), need to shut the door to let a ninja know, I’m sooo not the one to deal with foolishness and BS.
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
3:45 pm
But yeah, as far as relationships, I agree with MMeello…dude cheat (or lie or play games), close the door….for good. That way he’ll know to he couldn’t pull it with you.
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
3:46 pm
People often mistake kindness (i.e. forgiveness) as weakness.
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
3:46 pm
Single – First, you’re only hearing one side. But either way, this is what being married is all about, facing things you might not have to deal with if you were single. If the 2 of you want it to work, you will do what it takes. Is he talking about stepping out? Is this preventing them from “getting it in”?
I actually have a good friend that was like your buddy’s wife. The situation was that she had had a miscarriage and it took years and 2 failed IVF attempts to produce that one miracle baby. She herself was also a victim of abuse as a child, so she was paranoid about leaving her young daughter in anyone else’s care. Then to make matter worse, when she started to trust more and accept babysitting help, there was an incident with one of the babysitters. They eventually worked thru it and now that the child is a little older, they are back having their date nights.
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
3:46 pm
Siingle, how about if she knows hes married….those are the worst hoes…..worse than the ones who dont know
Dani
December 17th, 2012
3:47 pm
single- The one who got cheated on.
disco- Yeah he tried me and had me all messed up in the head. Talking about lets do couples counseling BS think about the kids. They were 5 and 1 at the time. I asked him did you think about me and kids while you were inside her. Lets just say we didn’ t have many sessions.
Sassy Me...Juicy Fruit ;-)
December 17th, 2012
3:51 pm
You tuck tail and run to your hOe, all cause you don’t wanna face or you don’t wanna deal with it.
Commendable indeed….still if the shoe were on the other foot and she stepped out…all hell would break loose..
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
3:52 pm
Cel..but i understand a single chic’s dilemna too..she’s is sweating dude, he seems polished,nice job and career..home,whip..most chics want dudes like that….then she finds out he is cheating…..but she considers herself Main chic…..
what to do….decisions decisions………
I know…
chic gives him a looong looong rope…
it becomes his pattern.
See..us men hunt all the damn time….we may not killl but it dont mean we dont see prey!
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
3:52 pm
Kimmie..if u are not married to dude…leave if u dont want to be compromised..if u stay,u comprnised for ever…
Exiled – I agree. That’s the way I ran my life. It sets a precident when you do marry as well. I let all dudes know I was not the one if that’s the way they rolled.
But I was never that hard pressed. I waited a long time, so I was willing to wait even longer for what I wanted.
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
3:52 pm
Kimmie, I don’t know if he’s stepped out or not, but the child is 6 now, I know I’m only hearing one side that’s why I specific questions, to see if it’s over exaggerated expectations. Marriage is not about forgetting you are married while staying married. I told him it sounds like one of those case where you thought you were on the same page because on the surface you wanted the same thing, but you both had different expectations of what those things included. No you can’t act like you’re single, but 6 years, I told him he’s a good one, cause I couldn’t, wouldn’t.
DuShawn
December 17th, 2012
3:53 pm
Kimmie/Celisea…..honesty is not always the best policy. Some things are best left unsaid. My statement about women choosing to tolerate infidelity is absolutely accurate. Speak to a woman that has been married over twenty years and ask her if she truly believes her man has been totally faithful. Most, if they answered honestly, would say no. I have a question for you: If you were married to a wonderful man for several years, you all have a beautiful family, monetary accomplishments, mutual investments, etc. He is a God fearing man, great father and loving husband. He has always treated you like a queen. You both love each other dearly. He has never given you the slightest inkling that he has been unfaithful. Life is perfect. Then one day he tells you he had an affair five years ago. Would you respect his honesty or wish he never told you? Additionally, would you divorce him or “choose to tolerate” his unfaithfulness?
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
3:53 pm
Commendable indeed….still if the shoe were on the other foot and she stepped out…all hell would break loose..
Exactly…ain’t that how it goes though? SMH And in this vein, dudes shouldn’t cheat cause they’re are the ones not cut out for dealing with it.
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
3:54 pm
Ex, he or she owes that person nothing, no respect or anything else, They didn’t promise to be true to anyone! morally they may be wrong, but they didn’t promise anyone anything.
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
3:57 pm
Dani so you weren’t even open to trying to fix the problem before or after?
abc
December 17th, 2012
3:57 pm
If he had an affair 5 years ago, he is not God fearing, a good father, nor a loving husband.
Game over.
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
3:57 pm
Exiled – That’s why I want my daughter to have OPTIONS, like I did. A dude had to have more than material things to turn my head, cause I was used to nice things and did well on my own. Nice house, decent job, educated, the whole nine I already had. You gotta bring me strength of character, not just look good on paper. It was easier for me to walk away.
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
4:00 pm
Du, somethings are meant to take to the grave
Sassy Me...Juicy Fruit ;-)
December 17th, 2012
4:01 pm
Additionally, would you divorce him or “choose to tolerate” his unfaithfulness?
Fck. that and let me ask you the same question. What if you had the perfect wife who gave you all of the things you mentioned in your 3:53. What would yoU do?
If your princess told you that five years ago when you were out of town on that business trip, that one of your best friends had her in the buck? It only happened that one time and you and dude have hung out countLESS times since then…
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
4:01 pm
I have a question for you: If you were married to a wonderful man for several years, you all have a beautiful family, monetary accomplishments, mutual investments, etc. He is a God fearing man, great father and loving husband. He has always treated you like a queen. You both love each other dearly. He has never given you the slightest inkling that he has been unfaithful. Life is perfect. Then one day he tells you he had an affair five years ago. Would you respect his honesty or wish he never told you? Additionally, would you divorce him or “choose to tolerate” his unfaithfulness?
First I’ll begin with if he was a God fearing man, we wouldn’t be discussing…IJS God fearing is for real and not, I go to church and take care of the kids and then whatever else. God fearing is just that.
But, further on to your scenario, if after years of seemingly blissful marriage, only to learn my husband has cheated, honestly I’d have to really go into my prayer closet. I’m dead serious. If you said you cheated five years ago, and have not since, that’s not “tolerating” cheating. If we work it out and I decide to stay, that’s keeping with my vows of for better or for worse and forgiving. Now, if you said I’ve had a hOe on the side for the last five years or currently, then I’m out. No if ands or buts. My main reason for not forgiving is what I stated earlier, dudes are likely to get it twisted and mistake for weakness or tolerating. There is the act of forgiveness that solely stands alone as such. It’s not tolerating or being stupid, hidden behind forgiveness. Too, it would be on the condition (if I stayed), that it happened and won’t happen again. But from that point, the greater disservice would be towards you because I would no longer respect you as the man I thought you were nor would I no longer have faith in you.
DuShawn
December 17th, 2012
4:02 pm
abc…c’mon man…really.
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
4:02 pm
Sassy – That 4:01…lololololol
I don’t think I could have said or painted it better.
Into the Light
December 17th, 2012
4:02 pm
You gotta bring me strength of character, not just look good on paper
Worth repeating.
And DuShawn, it is never okay to hurt someone just for the sake of clearing your conscience. IMO….
Dani
December 17th, 2012
4:02 pm
Single- Before the cheating yes after no you already showed me I wasn’t worth much of nothing to you. I said I would try but I was already planning my exit strategy. Pay off a few bills change work hours so I can drop and pick up kids…etc
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
4:03 pm
Sassy, stranger maybe, best friend, and we’ve hung out countless times since, you better hope they have better gun laws than they have now IJS
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
4:03 pm
Now, if we weren’t married and everything was all chummy and good, up until learning you cheated, it’s a wrap…no if ands or buts
Dani
December 17th, 2012
4:04 pm
abc -Amen
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
4:04 pm
Dushawn – What say you to Sassy’s scenario? Can YOU deal with it?
Into the Light
December 17th, 2012
4:05 pm
But from that point, the greater disservice would be towards you because I would no longer respect you as the man I thought you were nor would I no longer have faith in you.
I’ll agree with that, and add “nor can I stand the thought of you touching me.” I’ve been cheated on before, and tried to forgive and move on, but I just couldn’t get past the fact that he was intimate with someone else and his kisses/touches felt so dirty to me.
disco
December 17th, 2012
4:06 pm
dushawn – re your scenario, I’ve also heard women say that they will not give one little floozy the power to disrupt their homes and happiness.
kimmie – recently I was talking to a friend who commented that she’s surprised I’m single because I seemingly have it all “degree, good job, nice house, car”. (said friend has none of the above). I laughed and told her that with qualities like that it’s all I can do to beat off the low lifes who are looking for a place to live and want to drop me off at work while they keep my car. lol.
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
4:06 pm
Dushawn – I don’t know what I would do, honestly, as a married woman. I do agree with ABC’s 3:57 though. Don’t sound very “God fearing” to me. But I do understand that none of us is perfect.
But if I were single and dude cheated – all bets are off.
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
4:07 pm
Dani, but what if he tried to have the discussion with you several times before the cheating happened, and you weren’t hearing him.
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
4:09 pm
If it were me in Dushawn’s example and Queen cheated five years ago…its over.
But if its me who cheated..she has to stay..i got more options….anyway…..ask most woemn on this,not me…. Most men are as selfish as i am…
a 75 year old financially secure man can get a youngie woman quick…a similar 75 year old woman cant operate same way……the woman’s mind is different….
we men take advantage of that fact.
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
4:10 pm
Reading Sassy’s post…I had a friend (that I mentioned here) who husband is a Que and a bonafide hOe. She’s had me looking up phone number and stuff for her. A chick here in the ATL (their in another state), that he visits and had been visiting. Pre baby, post baby. Well it comes up again and she is hurt. Just broke down to the point where I didn’t have words. Well, she got fed up and got her a friend on the side (can’t say I agree with that but she did). Nothing happens (she claims) but was heading that way. She said a few meetings, friends convo, drinks, etc. She said he sent her a message about panties and her husband some kind of way found out. Well, from there he went ballistic. I mean he was following her to church (mind you he never went with her), was checking out the deacons (cause she said she panicked when he was grilling in the wee hours of the morning wanting to know who this dude was), followed here to work and any other place she went. Said he told her that if he found anything solid (cause she declared nothing happened), that it was a wrap. Well, when she was telling me this, all scared (what you scared of if nothing happened, better yet, if he was the hOe first…IJS)? I would have been peacocking all of the place. Well, I wouldn’t have been there…he’s been a hOe for years…but IJS. I would have rubbed it all in his face…boooyahhh…
I know that ain’t right but dudes sometimes need a good dosage of I can show you better than I can tell you
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
4:10 pm
Cel…thatsd the answer 4.09
abc
December 17th, 2012
4:11 pm
DuShawn, I think you should consider what ‘God Fearing’ really means. On the one hand, misinterpretations slight and great from original Hebrew are certainly there; and certainly, if God were to appear right now right here in my office, I’d be terrified; but I think most people take it to generally mean having enough respect for God to at least acknowledge what sins one has committed, to repent for them, and that means to successfully resolve not to repeat them.
If a married person cheats and doesn’t recognize and repent the sin, God Fearing obviously doesn’t apply. Like I said before, all the cheaters really gain is to make each other an adulterer. Now, sins aren’t ranked; violent acts tend to be regarded as more grievous by humans, but the Bible never ranks them. Betrayal is considered more grievous that something like stealing by people, but I think to God, sin is sin is sin.
Sassy Me...Juicy Fruit ;-)
December 17th, 2012
4:12 pm
Single,I underdstand what you’re saying but it always makes me wonder when I hear men talk about all of the isht women tolerate when it comes to cheating,i.e. the big house, the fabu neighborhood, great children etc.
But when it comes to what a MAN will tolerate when it comes to cheating all of these crooked a$$ double standards start flying out of the wood works…guys’ EGOS are as FRAGILE as 100 year old egg…and probably just as funky cause men make terrible bi.tch.es when they’re feelings are hurt. Yeah I said it…
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
4:13 pm
ex is that what it’s about you, that you can get someone else and she can’t? Wow. With these sorry men around here that don’t won’t to work, a financially secure woman can find her a young hottie too (LOL)
Sassy Me...Juicy Fruit ;-)
December 17th, 2012
4:13 pm
should’ve been *their feelings*…
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
4:13 pm
Lord..now u gave abc license to preach!
DuShawn
December 17th, 2012
4:14 pm
Sassy…I would prefer if she never told me. That’s why I could never understand people who check their SO’s email and phones looking for signs of problems. Why search for pain. Would I divorce her, probably not, but I don’t think that is something I could ever get over.
ABC- I guess my thinking was that God Fearing men also stumble and just because you cheated doesn’t mean you love your kids any less..so you can still be a good father.
abc
December 17th, 2012
4:15 pm
Amen, brother! I think we can probably agree that most all men are dogs, but recognizing that doesn’t mean it’s fine for us to howl at the moon.
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
4:15 pm
Meello – Thanks for answering. That’s probably how the majority of men would respond.
Dani
December 17th, 2012
4:16 pm
Single- He wasn’t unhappy eating my home cooked meals, me packing his lunch for work, me waking up in the middle of the night every night with kids and still get up for work at 5 am, having sex 3-4 times a week. So maybe I missed the conversation about yeah I’m unhappy about to cheat on you BS.
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
4:16 pm
Enter your comments here
Exiled
December 17th, 2012
4:17 pm
I think we can probably agree that most all men are dogs,
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
4:17 pm
Sassy, you know how we are, when a woman cheats all of a sudden she becomes used goods.
abc
December 17th, 2012
4:18 pm
In a way, DuShawn, I can see that. But to me, it’s the same as it is for children of illegal immigrants: a parent’s responsibility includes keeping their children from harmful situations, if they can. Now, an Hispanic kid is here because of their parents. It’s tough to put them back across the border when it’s like a foreign land to them, but that’s on their parents, not the government. Would a caring and loving father put his own children’s home and lifestyle at risk for some strange? ‘Course, in the excitement of the moment, thoughts like that don’t cross a cheater’s mind. But they should.
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
4:19 pm
Umm Dani, are married, do you have man
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
4:19 pm
Du – Would I divorce her, probably not, but I don’t think that is something I could ever get over.
That’s refreshing to read that. I mean, because it’s truism. By the same token you should assume she can just get over it. I agree with ITL, I’m not one that take too well to forgiving. I just can’t. Yeah, I believe in forgiviness and all that but just down to me as a person, I won’t EVER get over what and how you did with her. If I don’t go, my distrust and fleeting faith in you would kill what’s left. I know me
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
4:21 pm
Not just the act of sex I wouldn’t be able to forgive, it would be all that other stuff you tied up into her…and I won’t ever believe it was just about sex.
Told y’all I left the dude that had my heart wrapped and tied all because he couldn’t answer me concretely. His normal habit changed and I was all over it. Yep, had been a picnic and walk in the park for years. When I asked, I got a laugh and a “you think too much like a dude, gotta get you away from your brother.” Okay, I’ll show you then, I’m not playing. So, I bounced. Shocked the heck out of him. I don’t like anybody enough to tolerate anything.
Sassy Me...Juicy Fruit ;-)
December 17th, 2012
4:22 pm
when a woman cheats all of a sudden she becomes used goods.
That’s the double standard I was talking about….y’all and those muy fragile egos…chile puleaze(in my Ocho voice)
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
4:24 pm
WE MADE IT TO 6 PAGES!! Yaaaay!!!
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
4:24 pm
Sassy, all of us don’t have does fragile egos, because sometimes we do mess up, okay most of the time, alright, all the time (LOL)
kimmie
December 17th, 2012
4:24 pm
Sassy – I am so feeling your posts – chile pleaze!
Leggs
December 17th, 2012
4:26 pm
Celisea ~ I was so hoping we could get past your 25 post predicament (lol).
Into the Light
December 17th, 2012
4:27 pm
LOL@Sassy’s 4:22. And you know the person who originally said, “Do as I say, not as I do!” was a man because those jokers can’t STAND for you to give them a taste of their own medicine!
Dani
December 17th, 2012
4:28 pm
Single- I’m not the jump off, main chick, side chick, mistress, FWB type. I need to be the only one type of chick. So while I may be single you already have someone that fits in one of those categories. I already stated I from that I wish ninja would tribe.
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
4:29 pm
Leggs – That wasn’t me that predicted. That was someone else.
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
4:30 pm
39 more posts will get us to 7 pages….well 38 after this one
disco
December 17th, 2012
4:32 pm
leggs/celisea – it was me. (25 posts)
Dani
December 17th, 2012
4:32 pm
Sassy- You are right about that because he started accusing me of cheating. I wasn’t but I would leave at like 11;30 at night come back home at like 1;30 get in bed like nothing sometimes. If he only knew I would be at super Walmart walking around.
Sassy Me...Juicy Fruit ;-)
December 17th, 2012
4:32 pm
I won’t EVER get over what and how you did with her. If I don’t go, my distrust and fleeting faith in you would kill what’s left. I know me
I soo cosign…it will just NOT be the same…me walking around giving you the side eye while you try to strategically hide all the
knives n isht isn’t the way to live…for either of us. I couldn’t give n’aan fck. as to “why” or “see wha had happened was”…I don’t even want to hear it so miss me with it….
Kimmie gurl you know we got to be real…just like the song
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
4:32 pm
And for all the posts posted today and admission from our resident Dolemite i.e. Dushawn, let’s see if we’ll see a swing (in direction) for his stories posted
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
4:34 pm
me walking around giving you the side eye while you try to strategically hide all the
knives n isht isn’t the way to live…for either of us. I couldn’t give n’aan fck. as to “why” or “see wha had happened was”…I don’t even want to hear it so miss me with it….
Real talk right here….I’m caracking up. The worst thing than getting caught is staying with a chick like me. You might wanna gon and pack you stuff and get on out cause it’s gonna be nothing hell and discomfort from that day on. Not even nagging…just plain hell
Courtside Seats!!! Caught on the Kiss Cam :)
December 17th, 2012
4:35 pm
DuShawn, let this one ride brother….The scene you have laid out happens everyday….. EVERYDAY!!!! There are women that are looking past dude creepin and dudes pissed cause their girl got her back knocked out while she was in Vegas with her homies..The thing is it happens..In fact If I were a beeting moan, I would bet that it has or is happening to some folks right here on this blog…. But you can bet for sure, that It will NEVER be admitted to…
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
4:36 pm
Oh and if we’re married and having issues, I’m dead serious. You get ghost or slighty indicate you stepping out cause you can’t deal? I ain’t walking around WalMart, Imma be posted up at the Ritz for a couple of days. You won’t get nothing but v/m on my celly and v/m at work. I’m dead serious. All you would wonder is where da heck she is?
Willie Dynamite
December 17th, 2012
4:36 pm
Late afternoon all,
6 pages unread so I can only imagine. Looks like a Mars/Venus discussion.
Exiled!
December 17th, 2012
4:36 pm
Single went there with ‘used goods’
Lol
Sassy Me...Juicy Fruit ;-)
December 17th, 2012
4:38 pm
If he only knew I would be at super Walmart walking around.
Dani sometimes it’s the game we play…just to make them think we’re stepping out. What’s funny is that when he starts to think so, he’ll either start sweating your every move or start curtailing his. All of the things he claims you’re doing is going to be all of the things that he’s actually doing….that’s why he’s all Inspecter Gadget on you now…
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
4:39 pm
I ain’t gon lie, I won’t cheat out of spite or get back because I’m not that kind of woman. If it comes to that, it’s a wrap, but I would have you dang wondering…for the rest of the time, if we stayed together….if I did or if I didn’t.
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
4:39 pm
Dani so you think you know me huh (LOL) sorry you really don’t
Into the Light
December 17th, 2012
4:39 pm
A beeting moan?!?!?!? Courtside, the mental image from that one has me LMBO.
Sassy Me...Juicy Fruit ;-)
December 17th, 2012
4:40 pm
You might wanna gon and pack you stuff and get on out cause it’s gonna be nothing hell and discomfort from that day on. Not even nagging…just plain hell
_______________flatline_______________
Courtside Seats!!! Caught on the Kiss Cam :)
December 17th, 2012
4:41 pm
Soory Into the Light… That should have been BETTING man…
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
4:41 pm
Sassy –
girrrrrl
DuShawn
December 17th, 2012
4:43 pm
Celisea…..You a trip. ICU kinda jockin me…. I’m no Dolemite… I just type what I’m thinking. Everybody’s experieces are different, I sometimes choose to share the journey of my evolution in this forum. A lot of stories I don’t share because unless you know me personally and how I get down, you would never believe that this type of sh&T really happens. For instance, this weekend when our family friend “Red Sapper” stopped by the suite. Whew!….God truly favors me.
Into the Light
December 17th, 2012
4:43 pm
Court – I knew what you meant….but bEeting mOan was so funny, I had to repeat it.
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
4:44 pm
ICU kinda jockin me
I see you misreading. I don’t jock…anybody…ever…lol Especially on a blog. I mostly pass over your posts but since your address me personally today, I’m just typing everything I’ve wanted to say…lol
No jocking boo boo, it ain’t that kind of party.
Dani
December 17th, 2012
4:44 pm
He said I know seeing someone else you are just sneaker than me. I told him I was smarter than him because I’m was not stupid enough to cheat and then confess. That’s when you know it is over.
Sassy Me...Juicy Fruit ;-)
December 17th, 2012
4:45 pm
I ain’t walking around WalMart, Imma be posted up at the Ritz for a couple of days. You won’t get nothing but v/m on my celly and v/m at work. I’m dead serious.
THAT’S what I’m talking about…get gone for a little while to give HIM time to reflect on his actions while you chill…talking about looking in broad day with a flashlight. B.it.ch I want you to call the po po or Grady or some close family cause you can’t find me.
Yeah I’ve done it and I’d do it again..
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
4:46 pm
Sassy – LOLOLOLOLOLOL….we are seeing eye to eye. There’s more than one way to skin and cat, make a cat reflect without resorting to hOing and getting your back beat out, outta get back. And yes, I agree, it works.
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
4:47 pm
B.it.ch I want you to call the po po or Grady or some close family cause you can’t find me.
I’m rolling on this way…
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
4:48 pm
Hey Du – As you said, “I don’t get down like that”
Dani
December 17th, 2012
4:50 pm
Sassy/Celisea- I didn’t think about that at the time. Hopefully the next time around I won’t have use that one.
Into the Light
December 17th, 2012
4:50 pm
Okay, I’m out but I’m glad I could play a little today. If I’m not back here before Christmas, I hope you all have a very merry Christmas and all your wishes come true.
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
4:52 pm
Dani – Hopefully, there won’t be a next time, but if it comes to that, give yourself a mini-vacay. Withdraw the money from his CC and pay in cash so he can’t trace you. Yeah, let it be at his expense.
Sassy Me...Juicy Fruit ;-)
December 17th, 2012
4:53 pm
we are seeing eye to eye.
Yes m’aam we are >>>>here<<<<..
make a cat reflect without resorting to hOing and getting your back beat out, outta get back. And yes, I agree, it works.
Yes it surely does…it’s even sweeter when done this way..to ME anyway.
Dani
December 17th, 2012
4:56 pm
Celisea- I mean If I remarry oneday I hope he would not cheat.
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
4:56 pm
Dani – That’s what I meant…”hopefully it won’t come to that again”
Sassy Me...Juicy Fruit ;-)
December 17th, 2012
4:57 pm
Hopefully the next time around I won’t have use that one.
Yes and pick a nice spot to chill at..preferably one with it’s own shops and a spa so you don’t have to go too far for anything…then treat yourself
And when you come back home just a skippin and a glowin he’s gonna really think some wild isht popped off…priceless.
Alrighty read y’all tomorrow
Sassy Me...Juicy Fruit ;-)
December 17th, 2012
4:58 pm
Hold up I misread that…Dani I hope you don’t get cheated on again but if you have to get ghost in the future then by all means please use that 4:57 as an example..
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
5:00 pm
Exactly…we’re hoping not so, but just in case, do the dang thing, pull out all the stops and have a mini-vacay (spa treatment included)
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
5:00 pm
Four more comments will turn the page!!!
Dani
December 17th, 2012
5:00 pm
Sassy- Already made a mental note.
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
5:02 pm
To end the day, be kind to your partner/SO/spouse. Treat folks with the same level of respect that you want. Let the expectations be aligned and on the same page. And if you know you can’t deal with it, then don’t dish it.
Great discussion (at least I think so) today.
Du – No judging here. Whatever works for you, get in where you fit in.
Sassy Me...Juicy Fruit ;-)
December 17th, 2012
5:03 pm
Okay and if you’re near any of the Loews hotels check them out
Peace!!!
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
5:03 pm
Dani, me asking were you single was a joke, not looking for anything here
time to do me for awhile
Jira
December 17th, 2012
5:04 pm
Often lurks…but I must say, Celisea you do take a special interest in many of Dushawn’s rendevouz (past and present)…and that’s cool. But if I didn’t know any better, I’d say you’re somewhat fascinated by the debaucherous escapades. LoL
He and the Mrs. are clearly “swingin”…a mutual agreement between the two – otherwise she wouldn’t be down. Afterall not everyone can roll with their system.
Sassy Me...Juicy Fruit ;-)
December 17th, 2012
5:04 pm
Great discussion (at least I think so) today.
It was Celi…
this thing is addictive…must go home….
Dani
December 17th, 2012
5:06 pm
Single- I know it was joke, just didn’t want the vultures circling around..lol
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
5:07 pm
you talking bout home made meal, lunch and sex (LOL) yea we circling (LOL)
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
5:08 pm
Jira – Okay…lol If you say so, but again I don’t get down like that. I rarely speak to DuShawn. But, if you saaaay soooo
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
5:08 pm
Sassy – We should do it again tomorrow. It is addictive….night
Single & Happy
December 17th, 2012
5:09 pm
WTH check out this story
http://www.yourjewishnews.com/Pages/23463.aspx
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
5:10 pm
Jira – Are you interested in what I’m interested in? I’m just saying, you watchng me? I can’t do swingers or swinging. My heart ain’t out for that…lololol Is that your thing?
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
5:11 pm
Hey Jira – One more, I don’t do debauchery…unless it’s done on me…and me alone, by him and him alone
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
5:11 pm
Yaaaaay, seven pages!! Woo hoo
Jira
December 17th, 2012
5:27 pm
Celisea, my decision to speak up on this particular observation does not serve as confirmation of my sexual preferences and such speculation will not keep me from voicing my own perspective from time to time.
I’m simply all for consenting adults being honest enough to simply state and follow through with what they themselves take pleasure in, not based on the judgments of the masses who are one relationship away from resigning themselves to the daily use of KY jelly & blow up dolls. But again, whatever blows your/ their skirt(s).
But please don’t gas yourself anymore than you already have, my dear…I read everyone. The man seemed to be on to something with his previous conclusion. And though some of his views may be skewed to some degree, I can always appreciate a person’s honesty.
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
5:36 pm
Heeeey, where’s my post to Jira???
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
5:37 pm
Since my post was eaten, I’ll just bold this —> But please don’t gas yourself anymore than you already have, my dear and chaulk it up to some fan that’s always tailing me.
Night boo boo
Celisea
December 17th, 2012
5:40 pm
Oh, and this….which I found hilarious
I’m simply all for consenting adults being honest enough to simply state and follow through with what they themselves take pleasure in, not based on the judgments of the masses who are one relationship away from resigning themselves to the daily use of KY jelly & blow up dolls. But again, whatever blows your/ their skirt(s).
Night….again
sideeye
December 17th, 2012
6:16 pm
1 dude = 4 or 5 monikers….hmmmmm
LOL
December 17th, 2012
6:48 pm
u noticed 2?!?!?