Single people catch a lot of flack about being too picky, having loads of items on their dating checklists, and being a little unreasonable about who would be a good match for us. Is it really mandatory to have all that in one person to make us happy with who we pick?
Often, I am inclined to agree that we focus too much on perfect matching, and less on authentic compatibility. How close do we need to be to get the most important things we want in a mate?
If we think we want a certain type of person, does it count if you meet someone with 80% of what you think is ideal?
If you rank the top traits of an ideal mate, what do you do when you meet someone with most, but not all of those traits? Do you hold out for the 100 %? Is it foolish to believe that the person actually exists?
When it comes to being with the someone you can build and share a life with, what is the one thing you believe could seal the deal for you? Is the one thing something you would keep waiting for if you are not finding it anywhere?
By Wise Diva, Misadventures in Atlanta Dating Blog
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Randyt (ready to see the UK behind the wing tomorrow!!!)
June 19th, 2012
5:58 am
I’m always amazed when I read a profile on Match.com with a long laundry list of what they want in a mate. I wish them luck but would bet that i would see the same ones two years from now, with an even longer list.
Not that difficult for me…1) easy on the eyes, 2) intelligent, 3) has a genuine heart and not totally self absorbed , 4) am comfortable with but always waiting for the next interesting twist, and 5) when I am away from her, I am looking forward to being with her as soon as possible.
Randyt (ready to see the UK behind the wing tomorrow!!!)
June 19th, 2012
5:59 am
Dayum Exiled, you are up early today.
Randyt (ready to see the UK behind the wing tomorrow!!!)
June 19th, 2012
6:09 am
…and the most important requirement for actually connecting is (drum roll please) —- NOT EXPECTING MORE FROM YOUR SOULMATE THAN YOU EXPECT FROM YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!!!! You want a hottie, become a hottie, you want a PHD, become a PHD, you want a successful, financially stable mate, then become a successful, financially stable individual.
DreamsMaterialize
June 19th, 2012
6:22 am
Damn you guys are early. I think a person should go after whatever it is they want in a person. I ‘ll never try to convince any woman that I’m what she needs. If she feels she can do better, then by all means, go for what you know. I don’t want to be the dude you resent later on because I was only 80% of what you wanted.
Randyt (ready to see the UK behind the wing tomorrow!!!)
June 19th, 2012
7:04 am
YUP DM…always full disclosure and not try to sell yourself. Better to have those New Balances laced up early than late!!!
Randyt (ready to see the UK behind the wing tomorrow!!!)
June 19th, 2012
7:05 am
Oh and the answer to most questions is in the mirror, not in infomercials.
Single and Happy
June 19th, 2012
7:30 am
Dang exile, why don’t you tell us what you really feel!! (LOL)
Maybe that’s my problem, I need to make a check list (not!!) If I’m attracted I get to know them and decide from there.
Nayla
June 19th, 2012
7:47 am
@Exiled: R U including the single blog men as having not graduated? I noticed u only mentioned the ladies. Didn’t someone just say a few days ago how u r guilty of being sexist? There r single men here.
I usually just read and not comment. Only once did I say something, that was 4 the dumb girl that only make dumb remarks. She made a weiner analogy. lol
Blackfoote: The Real Blackfoote
June 19th, 2012
7:56 am
Ex playing hard ball.
Being picky is not all bad but be real a 100% match is in your head and may distract you from genuine people. Ultimately you can find yourself with nothing on your list to pick from and don’t forget being picky somebody has to choose you.
MissMoni
June 19th, 2012
8:11 am
GOOD Tuesday Morning All!
When it comes to being with the someone you can build and share a life with, what is the one thing you believe could seal the deal for you? FAITHFULNESS
Is the one thing something you would keep waiting for if you are not finding it anywhere? Most definitely!!!
Tracy
June 19th, 2012
8:12 am
Being picky is a priviledge. As long as you’re single, you’re well within your rights to take a pass on someone not working for you. Wouldn’t you much rather be single than to be the many unhappy married couples? It took me a long time to find my girl but it was well worth the wait. I would guess she’s about 90% of what I want in a wife.
MissMoni
June 19th, 2012
8:15 am
@Single and Happy: My sentiments exactly. There’s something about that initial attraction, if it’s NOT there then typically I won’t even spend my time trying to get to know the guy.
MissMoni
June 19th, 2012
8:17 am
@DM: Ditto on your 6:22! BTW, it’s only 8:20ish and I feel like I’m playing catch up. I see the EARLY BIRDS are wide AWAKE today!
Mike
June 19th, 2012
8:41 am
Just settle on the right choice. You are the one that’s going to live with it.
disco
June 19th, 2012
9:07 am
good morning. I’ve had this list discussion countless times and have discovered some folks are totally for it and others are totally against it. me, I think a list has merit. if nothing else being able to list what you want confirms that you at least know what you want. in my opinion there is nothing wrong with that and I actually appreciate a person who knows what they want and who will put the work in to get it. personally, I’m very self aware. I know my strengths, my weaknesses, what’s wrong with me, what’s right with me. I know what areas I probably need to work on but probably won’t (lol).
exiled – it’s much too early for you to be shooting us down for not having graduated. some of us aren’t even in school and others are studying very hard.
The man formerly know as Dan - still...Superior
June 19th, 2012
9:09 am
Oooh, “like” is a helluva thing.
“Like” gets you through the mundane, the petty, and the serious. Remembering that I (you) enjoy this person’s company means a lot.
lolalee
June 19th, 2012
9:18 am
I don’t really have a list, but there are a few must haves:
1. Bright
2. Accomplished
3. Kindhearted
4. Good character
5. Educated
I’m bringing all that to the table, too, so I don’t think it’s too much to ask.
Thirdwheelsingle
June 19th, 2012
9:25 am
Good Morning Yall!!! I threw out my list a while back. I’m getting older so I can’t be too picky. I have two guys that I really like but, they are not feeling me because I am not “ghetto” enough… I kid you not….. I guess my college degree and life accomplishments mean diddy…. These guys are clean cut good guys but they are thug life at home… I guess it’s back to white and hispanic guys….
czBrat
June 19th, 2012
9:26 am
When it comes to being with the someone you can build and share a life with, what is the one thing you believe could seal the deal for you? honesty.
Is the one thing something you would keep waiting for if you are not finding it anywhere?
yes. i can find anyone willing to lie to me in order to lay with me. i’ll hold out for honesty.
*handclaps for me-lo*
way to go, early bird!
great reads so far, gentleblogmen.
Blackfoote: The Real Blackfoote
June 19th, 2012
9:32 am
lolalee
Good for you, for bringing to the table the same things you hope to have in a mate. It’s not much to ask when one side meets the other side equally.
disco
June 19th, 2012
9:32 am
for the most part I meet the standards that are on my list. one exception – it’s not in the “deal breaker” column but it’s on the list just the same. I don’t really care for short men and since I’m short I guess I could be called out for that. a lot of people think because I’m short that short men should be perfectly acceptable but I beg to differ. would I completely discount a man because he was short? not necessarily, but as previously stated he’d definitely have to make up for it by meeting other criteria.
Blackfoote: The Real Blackfoote
June 19th, 2012
9:46 am
I’m not a fool nothing is ever equal in relationships. There are times when more is expected from the man and times more from a women. Clearly having a lists can be helpful in any endeavor, but to outright dis folks with a list is like a Nazi superiority sect. Well we know what happened to that list.
Single and Happy
June 19th, 2012
9:47 am
We’re not short, we’re vertically challenged!! (LOL)
Leggs
June 19th, 2012
9:49 am
Morning.
Honesty, respect and empathy is top of the list. Easy on the eyes and a nice mind follows, not necessarily in that order. Not sure if someone can meet all 100% of what a person is looking for, but you probably can come extremely close. I can’t ask for more than I can offer.
Nayla, welcome to Blogsville.
disco
June 19th, 2012
9:57 am
single and happy – spoken like a short person. lol. also, only short people say things like I’m 5’6” and one half inch.
leggs – my friends clown me because I admit to having a higher tolerance for ugly. I’d take ugly on a good body over cute on a jacked up body any day. tall and ugly over short and cute. ugly and smart over cute and dumb. you see where I’m going with this. some of my friends are really caught up on looks. me, not so much. I’m a lot more shallow when it comes to body types. I be checking for those “prison cut pounds” someone on here mentioned once. little, slightly built men don’t do much for me.
abc
June 19th, 2012
10:01 am
Listing required traits and characteristics is pretty stupid. It either works, or it doesn’t; it’s either on or off, black or white. If it’s grey, or some attenuated version of on, give it up. That doesn’t apply to whether it’s 100% or not — that simply doesn’t matter. Most people don’t really know what they want until they find it.
Blackfoote: The Real Blackfoote
June 19th, 2012
10:01 am
Leggs I’ve been waiting on those words from a lady, honesty, respect, and empathy for people in general. It takes a knowledgeable woman (mature) to put these words in the same sentence.
disco
June 19th, 2012
10:10 am
BF / leggs – but that’s the “mature” list. honesty, respect and empathy are all inner traits. I’m sure they could be paired with some outer traits that a person just can’t get with. okay. sorry. I’m being silly and contrary.
The man formerly know as Dan - still...Superior
June 19th, 2012
10:18 am
Empathy is an irrelevant characteristic.
Concern for your partner’s (or others) well being is all one can (should) ask for.
As for “a list”, I’m with abc, though with an addendum; most people don’t know what they want until they don’t have it anymore.
Ms5
June 19th, 2012
10:21 am
As a single woman, I do have a short list. There a things that I would not comprimise on. The most important thing to me is “I have my sh** together, I expect the same of my potential mate”
Celisea
June 19th, 2012
10:22 am
I’m going to agree with abc, a list? Really?
A bunch of “what you must have or bring”, IMO it comes off as judgemental. Everybody wants what they want and like what they like. Even so and still…live by the same standard you carry. That’ll give you a clean wash…lol
I like what Dreams said, trying to convince folks will have you running yourself ragged. And even if I meet every mark on your list, just for having one…go ahead and miss me with that.
Morning
SlimUno
June 19th, 2012
10:27 am
Good morning folks!
kimmie
June 19th, 2012
10:28 am
Morning All!! Working hard today!!
I gotta catch up, but just let me settle a little something with Exiled:
Foolish checklists are the reason why nobody in your MIA class has graduated Diva..well except Kimmie!
I DID NOT have a checklist!!LOL!! Never have I had one!!! Like any normal, free person, I had things in my head that I would like to have in a mate, and some non-negotiables(no smokers, druggies, ex-cons or radically different religious beliefs). I mean, come on, I do have standards! The thing is, people seem to think if a woman has reached a certain age she should accept any ole thing that comes along and be glad someone paid attention to you! Sorry, I waited awhile for the one I wanted and LOVE and was prepared to go it alone if need be!! Like I said yesterday to 4 Real, happiness and peace-of-mind are key for me. Miserable, but able to say “I got a man” just never cut it with me!! I didn’t need perfect, just the perfect one for ME!! Believe me, plenty of women have said to my face they could not have dealt with my situation. Fine. They aren’t the ones that are in the situation, are they??
Now let me catch up!!
Oh, and on topic – If you really are expecting the perfect one to come along, the one that meets everything on your “checklist” you need therapy!
kimmie
June 19th, 2012
10:37 am
Dan – I’m always with you on the “like” requirement!! Actually liking your mate will get you thru alot and make the not-so-sweet days much more bearable!!!
disco
June 19th, 2012
10:38 am
hey kimmie. here I go again, not trying to be my general contrary self. in my opinion, while you say you didn’t have a checklist the argument could be made that the standards/non-negotiables that you required were essentially your list (or would have been on your list had you decided to have one). do I literally have a list written down on paper someplace that I use to size guys up? no. do I recognize the qualities that I prefer? yep. do I know which qualities I’m unwilling to compromise on? yep.
Martha
June 19th, 2012
10:40 am
While I do use the 80% concideration for my list, one thing that is very important to me probably because I’m about 10 years from retirement, is a retirement plan. I have a retirement plan and would like a decent quality of life in retirement. Retirement plans are made for one person. Would like someone to compliment my retirement plans along with the other typical traits. Retirement is not an option.
The man formerly know as Dan - still...Superior
June 19th, 2012
10:44 am
@Hey Kimmie – hope all is well.
Yeah, that like is a muthasucka. Anybody that has a checklist that only include physical and ‘meta’ characteristics are really missing the point. Education, accomplishments, goals, dreams, finances, etc don’t matter when you’re not 100 percent comfortable with a person.
kimmie
June 19th, 2012
10:50 am
disco – I recognize that someone might call the qualities I noted a list and they can all day if they want. A “foolish checklist” of pie-in-the-sky requirements that kept my dating pool low or non-existent, they are not though. Anyone that knows me knows I can’t stand smoking. My dad was a chain-smoker, along with his siblings and others of his generation. I never want to have to live in a home with a smoker again and see another loved one go thru lung cancer or emphasema again. I mean that with every fiber of my being. Exiled said if I didn’t meet anyone by a certain age and a nice, clean-cut together guy came up but smoked, I would take him. He stood by what he said. I stood by what I said. My experience is my own and I know what’s in my heart. Non-negotiable, smoking is to me!
But one thing I’ve always said is that people have a right to want what they want!! Right now, if someone came on and said they only wanted to date dudes that were 6 ft, had hazel eyes, graduated from Harvard and made 6 figures, we all know that narrows her dating pool considerably. But who am I to judge? I’m sure she knows her dates are few & far between, so who am I or anyone else to tell her not to go for what she wants? It’s her life, not mine!!
disco
June 19th, 2012
10:55 am
you hear folks say all the time that the older you get the less picky you’ll become. personally I don’t buy into that one. I think the older you get the more you learn about yourself and what works for you. if you are strong enough to be willing to have all or nothing then you don’t have to worry about the “settle syndrome”. my mother’s been visiting for 3 weeks now. I’m starting to wonder if I should put “willing to live separately” on my list. lol.
Single and Happy
June 19th, 2012
10:59 am
Disco, I’m 5′5 and a half inches so there (LMAO)
SlimUno
June 19th, 2012
11:00 am
When yall start to get off topic, please tell me if yall saw the Love and Hip Hop Atlanta show.
kimmie
June 19th, 2012
11:01 am
disco – I’m inclined to agree with you. You know you better and what you can deal with.
For some reason, I can’t stand the “set in your ways” term! It makes it sound like you’ve got one foot on a banana peel and the other in a grave! But, while you might not be as picky about superficial things, you are less willing to put up with bs too, I think. I also think that’s why some older dudes go for much younger women. She’ll be more likely to put up with his bs and he can “mold” her into what he wants! Just my personal theory, knowing that might get some drawers in a bunch!LOL!!!
The man formerly know as Dan - still...Superior
June 19th, 2012
11:04 am
@Disco
Let’s not confuse ’strong’ with ’stubborn’. [Note: this is not a comment on/towards you personally.]
But if a person ‘holds out’ in life for 100 percent of what they want – not accepting the 80 – 90 percent option – then that person is stubborn and prideful.
The wise man knows that he doesn’t know everything, just as the wise person should know you can’t be everything to everyone (or require that from anyone else). But hey, let it be what it T.I.is
Blackfoote: The Real Blackfoote
June 19th, 2012
11:07 am
disco I’m good with you stating the list is in the mind, I really can’t see anybody grabbing pencil and paper to write down subject by subject. If it works and it very well may for people that does it I wont judge because it doesn’t bother me. If that make some people become a better person then they should by all means continue. Had enough of your mom already huh…..LOL
czBrat
June 19th, 2012
11:15 am
@ slim, yes. i did. and just
seriously, who the he!! are these people???
dan, i’ve told s/o there are times that my “liking” him so much makse it possible for me to continue loving him. w/o that “like”, that dude could really rub me the wrong way (at times!)
and along with “you don’t know what you want til it’s gone”, i have learned you don’t know how critical some characteristics are to a successful relationship until you find and experience them.
dude doesn’t necessarily have to add to my happy, but he absolutely CANNOT take away from it! that’s a must on my “list”.
kimmie
June 19th, 2012
11:16 am
I really can’t see anybody grabbing pencil and paper to write down subject by subject
Blackfoote – I can’t see that either and never have. And even if they did, would you actually pull it out on dates and show it? And check off each item? Really?
I mean, I can see people having them for purposes of discussion, like on the blog. Like disco said, most folks have in their mind what they want and don’t want. I don’t see what the big deal is. If there is something that is truly keeping you from finding a suitable mate, I doubt very seriously if some checklist,mental or physical, is truly what’s holding you back! Not the list itself, but what’s staring back in the mirror. Or circumstances. Maybe you’re not getting out alot and meeting people, maybe your work schedule is getting in the way. Maybe you just have an anti-social personality, maybe you’re a jerk or a beyotch! Fat and sloppy and smelly! Not a list!
Blackfoote: The Real Blackfoote
June 19th, 2012
11:24 am
LOL……@Kimmie
“maybe you’re a jerk or a beyotch! Fat and sloppy and smelly!”
Sometimes I wonder how this fails to get added onto their list about themselves.
disco
June 19th, 2012
11:27 am
dan – no offense taken. I own being both strong and stubborn. I accept that in dating there will have to be some shorts. I’m just not trying to be the one taking all the shorts.
BF – this is the first time in more than 20 years that I have been in my mother’s presence every single day for this amount of time. I do not deny that she’s wearing me down.
kimmie – I know a jerk that’s married to a beeyotch. lol. I often joke that I don’t know which one of them got the short end of the stick in the marriage.
kimmie
June 19th, 2012
11:28 am
Blackfoote – Oh, you’ll never see that!!LOL!!
kimmie
June 19th, 2012
11:32 am
I know a jerk that’s married to a beeyotch
disco – It’s somebody for everybody out there!LOL!! The thing is, I see so-called unmarriables, undesirables, married or bood up every day. These traits that are supposed to be undesirable are only a problem if you aren’t coupled-up!
Celisea
June 19th, 2012
11:36 am
First of all, in reading MMeello’s rant and I must say I’m a bit disappointed. Not surprised but disappointed (love you still) at all the assumptions and stereotypes and double standards.
People should be free to do what they want, date who they want, void of judgement judgement. People shouldn’t be held or measured up against what you feel you’ve accomplished as your “to do” list could very well not align with theirs. Nor should you feel they ain’t living because they aren’t doing what you consider “living.” There are a bunch of things I read on here that’s not my cup of tea and I know vice versa. I’ve posted stories from my past as it relates to the various topics but for selfish reasons and stereotypes and clowning (lol..yeah I do it too)and the broken busted women bashing/syndrome, I WILL NOT post anything personal and currently happening. It’s private and personal. But there shouldn’t be biased assumptions just because a person hasn’t said so.
Now, unless you’re just a receptacle (and I don’t believe any of us on here are), you have something in mind as it relates preferences, what’s do-able, deal breakers and so forth. Your right, your choice. Who am I to bash you for that? Even to folks posting stuff that’s apparently and seemingly stupid it’s them and their life and frankly if they like it I love it. But for the most part everybody wants to be happy and your happiness just may not mirror mine. So as I said earlier, keep with your standard and live by a standard (or not) and go on and get your happy on.
Dynamic
June 19th, 2012
11:38 am
Exiled this is what I said yesterday- If I met somone who meets all my criteria for dating, finances, religion, height, and can throw tha “D”! I think I can committ quick…maybe not in two weeks, but 6 months.
You are bringing what I said yesterday into a conversation today.
I am woman enough to understand that good sex is an important quality for my marriage,…. maybe not for you which is your choice for your life. But don’t degrade me on a blog for my desires. They are simply different from you. No I don’t have a long list of things that I require in a mate, nor did I list them all on yesterday.
BTW- What kind of degree do you have?
SlimUno
June 19th, 2012
11:41 am
czBrat – That show was like watching a car accident…just couldn’t turn away
Celisea
June 19th, 2012
11:44 am
And to tack on to my last paragraph, I don’t believe a list is mature…just my humble opinion. I believe go with what you desire and preference (some may say it’s the same…for me it’s not). I mean go with what meshes with you, go with what vibes with you. Usually for me none of what “clicks” for me is on a list. It just works well for the both of us. I think too, that list will skew your outlook. If you have one and no one comes along, be careful because you’ll start adding stuff back in that you wouldn’t have done say 10 years ago. That’s why I fall back on living by a standard. That’ll weec out the crazies (and all that other stuff) for you everytime.
Blackfoote: The Real Blackfoote
June 19th, 2012
11:57 am
Cely I learn soemthing new everyday from you guys and I’ll admit it’s been very helpful to me. Y’all keep it so real, blunt, and straight forward even when joking and the way y’all gather and pull each other up instead of down is gratifying. Thank y’all for helping me to remain a balanced and happy dude. I wasn’t always that but now I am.
Mike P
June 19th, 2012
11:59 am
Good morning!
I don’t believe that there’s anything wrong with having a list per SE; the trouble get into with this whole thing is lots of times they don’t know their “worth or value” to others. I think someone early used a car analogy… well it’s like when a person has a certain possession that has special value to her; like a family heirloom for example. It just may be very valuable indeed to you, your family, and some of your closets of friends, but you can’t trade it for a brand new Benz with it. I doubt that the auto dealer will take you very seriously at all… “you cant buy new car from my lot, all you’re worth (to him) or all you can afford is a used, beat up clunker from the used lot (fl’ck-able but not marriage worthy).” he says
Just remember. you can have all the lists and requirements you want. you can choose whomever you desire… but know that he/she has to choose you as well.
Blackfoote: The Real Blackfoote
June 19th, 2012
12:02 pm
I did learn how to spell “something” I promise I did. Something, something, something, something just aint right.
Celisea
June 19th, 2012
12:05 pm
Blackfoote – Thank you for the compliment. Most folks think straight forward is being mean or bullying or bashing (notice how I’m singled out a lot) but really frank and honest with a hint of tack (yeah I’m working on it), goes a long way. Like I said, it keep the crazies at bay. I must move it along or move over when I see/feel/hear it…lol
I get the feeling though that you’re one of those that stand out. You strike me as already being a gentleman. There are others but I peeped that long ago
I for one appreciate you and never taking an opportunity to bash and degrade and disrespect women. It’s easy to do but not going there goes a long way with me. Not just the blog women but women overall. I have much respect for you and cba, and others.
Jake a.ka. Sweet Peeda Jeeda TWB
June 19th, 2012
12:05 pm
Captain Caveman is in the building…you should not compromise much on what you want if you really know what you want, but understand that no human will ever be 100% perfect, because they are human, and the person that you meet; will always be the same person. They may change some behaviors, but a person’s core doesn’t change.
Slim-I didn’t watch it, but I saw pieces as Mrs. was tuned in and I must say, its trash TV, but they have found some nice fat bootays to put on the screen. I also noticed that they were panning in on said bootay’s in a way that you don’t typically see. Shawty in the torquise mini looked delicious!….lol
disco
June 19th, 2012
12:08 pm
mike p – you make me think of all the folks who get on that “know your worth”” kick. while I’m all for self worth and knowing your value and all that I also understand that others have a role in determining worth. granted this is primarily when dealing with tangible things but can apply to people in another sense. I’ve heard people say “I’m worth it” under certain circumstances when they feel like they are entitled to something and I’m thinking “yeah effin right”.
Jake a.ka. Sweet Peeda Jeeda TWB
June 19th, 2012
12:10 pm
BF-11:57, I see you, dropped some cool on them didn’t you, where you get that sheepskin…lol
Celisea
June 19th, 2012
12:14 pm
I hit the gym yesterday and I am sore
Gotta get in tip top for vacay
Blackfoote: The Real Blackfoote
June 19th, 2012
12:15 pm
Awww shucks thanks Cely. Elijah bruh, you know you got come correct to see Cely.
Celisea
June 19th, 2012
12:18 pm
Blackfoote –
You alright with me.
Mmeello – I still love you though
disco
June 19th, 2012
12:18 pm
ex – I know a lot of guys go for the path of least resistance and some claim to love the challenge of chasing “out of their league.” of course, there are some guys who don’t admit to anything being out of their league – lol. anyway, my question is – are any guys on here willing to admit that they actively seek out “low hanging fruit”?
Blackfoote: The Real Blackfoote
June 19th, 2012
12:21 pm
LOL……@Jake
Jake a hand tailored new and improved sheepskin, you can’t even tell where the hem lines are…….LOL
Cely you know I’m fooling around with Jake.
Celisea
June 19th, 2012
12:24 pm
There was a guy on here during the holidays that said almost every other day that his goal in life was to now only date low hanging fruit…I can vouch for him that he was one. He’s not here now…I don’t think…lol…or maybe he is…hmmm
Celisea
June 19th, 2012
12:24 pm
Blackfoote – It’s okay, I’m a sucka for a gentleman
Jake a.ka. Sweet Peeda Jeeda TWB
June 19th, 2012
12:25 pm
“I for one appreciate you and never taking an opportunity to bash and degrade and disrespect women.”
Now Celisea-who does that, you might not agree with some of us “others” belief system, but I’m not sure I ever see degradation and disrespect…
I gotta back Ex, the women that he is speaking of exist, he didn’t say the entire gender is this way!
Blackfoote: The Real Blackfoote
June 19th, 2012
12:29 pm
LOL……@EX
SlimUno
June 19th, 2012
12:29 pm
they have found some nice fat bootays to put on the screen. I also noticed that they were panning in on said bootay’s in a way that you don’t typically see
Jake – Dayum you too? lol The beau was all up in them bootays on the show and was sitting there smiling and shaking his head. Even I had a little bootay envy for some of those shots.
czBrat
June 19th, 2012
12:32 pm
blog Mafia eating posts
Blackfoote: The Real Blackfoote
June 19th, 2012
12:33 pm
Cely and I’m just a sucka for a pretty face. Remember that song?
Celisea
June 19th, 2012
12:33 pm
Jaaaaaake – I guess it just depends on what you would deem “disrespect.” Most times no, not all out bashing but the undertone says a lot. You gotta admit though, there are plenty times when the menfolks are screaming bloody murder against the womenfolk…lol
Yeah, that was smooth of Blackfoote wasn’t it? lol
Celisea
June 19th, 2012
12:35 pm
Blackfoote – Yeah I do
Mmeello – If he goes to wrk,nine to five,join ur 35$k with his $36 and uall got $71k Progress!
I don’t know why but that read funny to me…lol
Jake a.ka. Sweet Peeda Jeeda TWB
June 19th, 2012
12:42 pm
Slim-I knew I wasn’t crazy, each time one would stand or something, the camera would zoom in.
Cel- i think thats part of the ebb and flow, the ladies were all over broke/sorry dudes yesterday… I believe that the guys here speak from their experiences, and have opened Pandora’s box a bit, ya’ll didn’t know there was so much low-hanging fruit, its not just that one friend of yours who is a hoe, but every woman has a friend like that, and we know who she is.
Celisea
June 19th, 2012
12:47 pm
Jake – We did clown a bit didn’t we? On those days, I for one am responding but more so cutting and having fun. I guess though I should see it that way when a certain someone LOOOOOVES to talk about having 12 kids by 18 different baby daddies and a grandma by the age of 30…lol I actually agree with your 12:42. A friend was just saying the same thing to me….almost verbatim.
The man formerly know as Dan - still...Superior
June 19th, 2012
12:52 pm
@Jake
Depending on how many drinks they’ve had, one woman will tell you about the ho3….
#teamfemalefriends
#backwhenIwassingle
Jake a.ka. Sweet Peeda Jeeda TWB
June 19th, 2012
12:58 pm
Its true, not just the being easy and whatnot, but everything else. That one crazy friend, which in many cases is the hoe as well, as she has gone crazy from hoeing…every woman has that friend, the friend with the bad childhood who makes bad decisions, but is really a good person, every woman has that friend, the schemer, if he can’t help me with this or that, every woman has that friend, the church girl, who screwin the deacon, yep seen it before, etc……..we just get a chance to tell yall about it
Both men and women are looking for a needle in a hoe stack…we just don’t mind fiddlin around the stack, we figure, if you keep waddlin through the stack, the needle will find you!!
Jake a.ka. Sweet Peeda Jeeda TWB
June 19th, 2012
1:00 pm
Dan-Exactly
SlimUno
June 19th, 2012
1:02 pm
And the hoe always thinks the hoe is someone else
(just felt like jumping on the bandwagon)
Celisea
June 19th, 2012
1:04 pm
Only if you’ve hoe’d around. If you haven’t then there’s no mistaking.
Leggs
June 19th, 2012
1:06 pm
disco ~ easy on the eyes for me mean, you don’t have to be FOINE, just pleased when I open my eyes. Never been with an ugly guy, but some of my friends may have thought so!
SlimUno ~ I saw Love and Hip Hop last night and I was surprised at many things, Pimptress Mama Dee, that skank of an artist Stevie J has, Stevie J himself, and his gullible woman trying to hold onto to the belief that she’s not sharing her man. Good grief, that show is a freaking mess. The skank artist (whatever her name is) has crossed so many boundaries she needs a muzzle. AND, Stevie J’s woman needs to check that trick with the quickness!!!
Willie Dynamite
June 19th, 2012
1:21 pm
Afternoon All,
Topic – Everyone is an almost. I never kept a list but I understand why someone would. Rather it is long or short most folks have some idea of what they “THINK” they like. Most lists are moving targets and decipherable only to the person that makes them. It could be as simple as like/dislikes, negotiables/non-negotiables, etc. At any rate I think its just a way for folks to find their lane. Problem is some folks never find the right lane yet keep blaming the traffic.
Willie Dynamite
June 19th, 2012
1:23 pm
oh yeah, Attaboys, fist bumps and a virtual drank to the fellas for holding it down so far today. Men in general took a collective beating from the female-folk yesterday.
SlimUno
June 19th, 2012
1:28 pm
Leggs – I thought to myself that they really packed a lot of mess in the first show. Did you catch the skank artist tell Stevies woman that she was not going to ride with them anywhere with that attitude after they were accused of kissing?
Side piece is not supposed to be flapping them lips at the main chick. lol Pimptress Kingpin Mama Dee reminds me of Jim Jones’ mother minus the deep smoking 8 packs of cigarettes voice…plus Keyshia Cole’s mom all in one. Did you catch the apartment of Lil Scrappy’s baby mama? I was like, she must be off Godby road someone..I haven’t seen cabinents that old in a while. There was so many things wrong with that show. And did you think Skank artist was trying a bit hard to be a Rihanna type?
Jake a.ka. Sweet Peeda Jeeda TWB
June 19th, 2012
1:31 pm
Slim-you are welcome to jump on this wagon anytime you like…hehe
czBrat
June 19th, 2012
1:36 pm
slim, leggs … i was slack-jawed at “you betta act like you know”. what woman can say that to a man that is not HER man?
SlimUno
June 19th, 2012
1:38 pm
you are welcome to jump on this wagon anytime you like
(Slim chanting to herself, “i’m not da hoe, i’m not da hoe, not gonna be da hoe..uh-un, no sireee)
czB – Home girl looked a bit scary. The beau was like, does she have an accent or does she just sound dumb lol I get to work and one of my co-workers said the same thing
The man formerly know as Dan - still...Superior
June 19th, 2012
1:42 pm
slow golf clap to the producers for the slow booty shot…
Leggs
June 19th, 2012
1:44 pm
That’s my point, SlimUno, who is she to tell his woman she can’t come to the studio with an attitude messing up her musical flow??? She should have been cold co*cked just on GP! And, if she’s not emotionally invested in him, why take the time to throw your drink at him. The show had me laughing and tsk tsk tsking much of the time.
Yeah Mon, a bit too hard trying to be Rihanna. The Pimptress is bipolar….
SlimUno
June 19th, 2012
1:44 pm
Dan – Just goes to show how the eyes tend to drift to certain parts of the human body. At one point, I thought I was watching Love and Hip Hop Booties of Atlanta
Leggs
June 19th, 2012
1:45 pm
i was slack-jawed at “you betta act like you know”. what woman can say that to a man that is not HER man? – Yeah, what woman would have the nerve to say something…she’s a isht starter.
kimmie
June 19th, 2012
1:48 pm
Dang, imma have to check out that crazy show!! All the other shows I watch are showing reruns now anyway.
The man formerly know as Dan - still...Superior
June 19th, 2012
1:51 pm
@Slim
It’s Atlanta, what else they going to focus on?
SlimUno
June 19th, 2012
1:52 pm
Leggs – Yeah I was cracking up almost the whole show and even talked to the tv like Oh no she didn’t. I almost forgot about ole girl throwing her drink at Stevie as if she has any right to be upset. And as far as Stevie goes, why would you have your side piece on the show when you know your lady will be watching it. I wonder just how far out that house he bought for her was because she really didn’t seem thrilled.
The man formerly know as Dan - still...Superior
June 19th, 2012
1:53 pm
As for the ‘act like you know’ comment, any (most) chicks would say that. From the perspective of the show, ole girl (the skripper) looks like she’s the side piece. For all we know, the BM could be the fries…
Either way, that arse was……..
czBrat
June 19th, 2012
1:55 pm
leggs, it could just be the way they edit that scene, but it seemed like when she threw the drink at him, he turned around and came back to sit by her. almost like she checked him with that move and he obeyed. who the f@ck does that and claim there’s nothing going on between them?!?!?
i mean, how the he!! is that a manager/artist relationship?!?
SlimUno
June 19th, 2012
1:57 pm
I was cracking up with Scrappy’s mom was saying his ex Diamond needed some massengil and should’ve put that hoe on the track
Leggs
June 19th, 2012
1:58 pm
Stevie J has game! He’s smooth. Any of you laugh when she’s trying to chide him for buying that house away from the city while he stays in town and in the middle of her rant he smoothly and softly says “I love You?” Lil leggs and I both fell out laughing.
Bet many people said “oh no you didn’t” at least twice. I know we did. Even her boobs look r idi cu lous. Watching her, she looked a little like Prince, RuPaul, Rihianna and Rosie Perez.
SlimUno
June 19th, 2012
1:58 pm
This show gets a 10 for the GHETTO GIGGLES category
czBrat
June 19th, 2012
1:59 pm
As for the ‘act like you know’ comment, any (most) chicks would say that
not in my world. but my point was that no one other than a man’s s/o should even get away with it.
slim, i didn’t catch it from the beginning, but i kept wondering the same thing. where on earth did he plant that woman to keep her outta the way? probably north gwinnett. LOL.
SlimUno
June 19th, 2012
2:00 pm
Leggs – Yeah I caught how he threw that LL Cool J look with the “I love you” in there. HOLLERS
But honestly, some chicks eat that up. He was trying to pacify (shut her up) with a large house purchase probably in lower Alabama…far far away from the studio
Leggs
June 19th, 2012
2:02 pm
@czB ~ I saw him turn around after she threw the drink, but didn’t look like he was coming to sit down. And then he in turns throws a drink at her (not sure if that was the end of the show or what’s going to happen next week). I thought he was going to slug her. Too much testosterone from the both of them…
SlimUno
June 19th, 2012
2:04 pm
Too much testosterone from the both of them…
HOLLERS, I thought the same thing especially when she first shows up at the studio and sits across from him talking about how much she’s been in the gym. Came off quite manly to me
Jake a.ka. Sweet Peeda Jeeda TWB
June 19th, 2012
2:11 pm
CzBrat-not in your world, lol…cause I wish a mofo would try to shine like that, not even a man’s S/O should try that…its not a good move at all..
Slim, you say he bought her a house in LA….Lower Alabama….maybe in Eufala, Abbeville, Tallassee, Headland…lol
Blackfoote: The Real Blackfoote
June 19th, 2012
2:11 pm
Leggs you are devoting too much time to work, let them folks know you are wanted here with us on the blog……..LOL
czBrat
June 19th, 2012
2:14 pm
not even a man’s S/O should try that
true, jake. but there are relationships that
dysfunction that way.Jake a.ka. Sweet Peeda Jeeda TWB
June 19th, 2012
2:19 pm
czB-I know its TV, but I guess i live in my own bubble, cause I have never had a woman act out like that on me…my bad, I have never allowed such…
kimmie
June 19th, 2012
2:24 pm
Has anyone been to “Do at the view” pizza place downtown? (Do, like Do, Re Me)You order and communicate by iPad. Friends told me about it, sounds like fun.
Blackfoote: The Real Blackfoote
June 19th, 2012
2:28 pm
I’m having flash backs about Donna Summer what a beautiful 62 year old woman. Same age as Pam Grier, both those women could be my cougar, since Donna is gone Pam always been on the top shelf. I’m thinking about women of color aging so graciously I mentioned to y’all about this 72 year old lady looked like she was in her fortys, don’t know why but it just hit me.
SlimUno
June 19th, 2012
2:29 pm
kimmie – No i’ve never heard of it but I like pizza and that sounds interesting. I’m going to check it out
SlimUno
June 19th, 2012
2:32 pm
kimmie – Wait, i think someone did mention it on here a while back..can’t recall who it was
Blackfoote: The Real Blackfoote
June 19th, 2012
2:34 pm
Damn even Star is looking good even though we’re the same age she can have too.
disco
June 19th, 2012
2:39 pm
okay – since things have slowed down a bit here’s an off topic. I’m reading my daily dose of news and come across a news article where they found an unconscious male rape victim lying by the side of the road. I don’t know if I’m the only one but I always associated male rape with prison. certainly never associated with random street violence. wow.
SlimUno
June 19th, 2012
2:42 pm
disco – Yup it happens, not to mention the thousands of boys that are molested as kids…granted not considered street violence but still bad. These days I couldn’t even tell you what is more prevalent, boys being messed with versus little girls. smh
MervTheTerrible
June 19th, 2012
2:43 pm
“Single people catch a lot of flack about being too picky”
Nooooo it is just some of us know what we want and will not settle for anything less than what we want. And what I am looking for isn’t too much, but the things I am looking for are key, but I am not telling what those are because that’s cheating the system and I would like those things to come naturally, not being taught.
disco
June 19th, 2012
2:45 pm
slim – that’s just it. I’m not talking young boy or even teen. I’m talking a grown man being randomly selected and raped on the streets. it’s almost hard to wrap my mind around especially since there was no indication that a weapon was involved and even then I’d think most men would fight dang near to the death on that one. crazy.
MervTheTerrible
June 19th, 2012
2:47 pm
Basically I want the Steak, not the left overs.
SlimUno
June 19th, 2012
2:50 pm
o/t: I just heard on the radio about some lady that got caught shoplifting. She had some chitterlings, a can of raid and some koolaid
Please tell me that is a joke, is this for real??
SlimUno
June 19th, 2012
2:53 pm
disco – When you put it that way, I get what you’re saying. Hard to visualize that as well.
i'm swiss
June 19th, 2012
2:57 pm
“I’d think most men would fight dang near to the death on that one”
The dude was found unconscious, right? So, he probably did.
Thing is, that kind of thing, unless the dude is found unconscious like this guy, I can pretty much guarantee you would never hear about it, because no victim would ever report it.
kimmie
June 19th, 2012
3:00 pm
disco – that’s sad. I know he’s a grown man, but these days you have to watch out for your sons as well as daughters!
Sorta back on topic – Old tired Michael Baisden has had these shows where he asks do women know what they want. I’ve seen articles and blogs discussing the same thing. They all say women don’t really know what they want in a man and they should decide on that before they attempt to date. But, when women do know what they want and say it, then they are accused of being too picky or not wanting the “right” things.
Can’t win for losing!! That’s why you just live your life and everyone else be damned!
Leggs
June 19th, 2012
3:02 pm
@BF ~ I am back…had a little episode, but I’m good now!
Celisea
June 19th, 2012
3:02 pm
I’m so afraid for my kid and everybody elses because this world seems like it’s getting worse by the minute. You can teach and teach and teach but if what’s around them is more appealing then you’re in for a battle.
On getting a steak….make sure you don’t come wrapped in a SPAM can yaself…lol I KID I KID…sort of. Everybody is somebody’s leftovers but like we said earlier go for what you want. Just saying to get someone not used means hitting up prek-ers…lol
I’M KIDDING!!!!
Celisea
June 19th, 2012
3:05 pm
I have a hard time looking/listening/reading the news. I was thinking the same thing as Swiss, he no doubt did fight.
Bluzgirl
June 19th, 2012
3:06 pm
I know ya’ll are off topic now, but I thought I’d chime in real quick. I’ve been told in the past that I set my standards too low (which I’m sure ya’ll would agree). I’m learning to set them higher, but not too high. I don’t have a list, but I’m learning the things that I will and will not tolerate anymore. I guess I should say that musicians and clowns are now non-negotiables!!! LOL
disco
June 19th, 2012
3:06 pm
swiss – good point. he was found unconscious without pants or shoes.
kimmie – I think the fact that it was a grown man is why the story is so disturbing to me. I think women are a lot more conscious of being careful when going out in that regard. I can’t imagine that the possibility of being raped ever crosses the average man’s mind.
C – a spam can? you crazy.
Willie Dynamite
June 19th, 2012
3:06 pm
Kimmie – Not to co-sign Baisden as I am not one of his fans. I will say for the most part people in general (Men and Women) don’t know what they want. They can tell you quick what they don’t want. It is a dayumed if you do or don’t scenario. You don’t strike me as the type to care either way tho.
Celisea
June 19th, 2012
3:07 pm
disco –
Leggs
June 19th, 2012
3:08 pm
Bluz ~ especially short short clowns!
Celisea
June 19th, 2012
3:09 pm
hiding in shrubs…lol
SlimUno
June 19th, 2012
3:11 pm
I actually have my new stun gun fully charged and ready to go
Leggs
June 19th, 2012
3:12 pm
with big heads…
Leggs
June 19th, 2012
3:13 pm
Speaking of stun guns, I’m investing in one and a pistol….it’s bad in the streets and those same people want to take if out the streets and into stranger’s homes!
czBrat
June 19th, 2012
3:14 pm
and also in recent news: adidas actually produced sneaks with shackles.
cba
June 19th, 2012
3:18 pm
Celisea~thanks for the props awhile back. Your posts alway keep my head nodding up and down and a few times left and right
But always smiling
Willie Dynamite
June 19th, 2012
3:19 pm
Leggs – I think they stop making pistols in 1978. j/k j/k
Brat – the adidas shoes are just horrible. I can’t believe that even made it off the design floor let alone into production and sales.
Leggs
June 19th, 2012
3:21 pm
@WD ~ oh…I’m gonna get a gun….
I wouldn’t necessarily automatically think of “slavery” when I saw those sneakers. My initial thought would be “dang, those are some ugly sneakers.” Then, I may think of slavery.
disco
June 19th, 2012
3:23 pm
leggs – you say that now but what about when you are riding down the highway and see a bunch of guys in jumpsuits wearing shackle adidas and singing swing low, sweet chariot. lol.
Leggs
June 19th, 2012
3:24 pm
With that combination in front of me, disco, slavery will be front and center!
Leggs
June 19th, 2012
3:25 pm
Not only that, how the heck did they come up with a price tag of $350????
Celisea
June 19th, 2012
3:25 pm
cba – I know I know…sometimes with the craziness you can’t help but go left and right
Bluzgirl
June 19th, 2012
3:27 pm
Brat…I could not believe those UGLY shoes!!!! What a horrible idea!
czBrat
June 19th, 2012
3:28 pm
LMAO @ disco. foolish woman!
my first thought was actually jailbirds. i think cuz of the orange color choice. but yeah, i asked myself is there NO ONE in that company with enough sense to say “bad idea!” before that shoe made it to somebody’s sales floor?
kimmie
June 19th, 2012
3:35 pm
Willie – You got it! Don’t give a flip. It’s a beautiful thing to be at that point in life!LOL!!
I guess for me though, as long as I know what I don’t want, what should it matter? Like what was discussed by some earlier, sometimes you don’t know what you want until you don’t have it anymore. Or it’s something not very tangible or easy to describe, but you and this person have a vibe, a chemistry. You may be great on paper, but if you & I don’t jive, it’s a moot point. It’s not really like a job applicant, where you can list qualifications and have a fit. Knowing exactly what you want in a mate seems very limiting.
SlimUno
June 19th, 2012
3:35 pm
Leggs – My next move will be to get a gun…I just haven’t found one I want to call my Ride or Die on the side, just yet. lol
SlimUno
June 19th, 2012
3:37 pm
disco – With the saggin’ trend, they’ll fit right in if they ever get sent to prison.
Bluzgirl
June 19th, 2012
3:39 pm
Now that I’m living alone again, I’ve been thinking about a gun, but need to take courses on how to use and maintain it. I’m not comfortable at all with guns. I’ve thought about a stun gun, but those are just as expensive!!!
SlimUno
June 19th, 2012
3:46 pm
I took a gun safety class offered by the county I live in. You can check with your county or neighborhood gun range for classes…I ordered my stun gun through Divas In Defense since I took a self-defense class. You can check it out. They offer many different classes as well as options of different weapons
http://divasindefense.com/wp/programs-for-women/
abc
June 19th, 2012
3:47 pm
Yeah, bluzgirl, nobody wants a musician. The musicians themselves can understand it.
I think pretty much every player I’ve ever known has had a girlfriend or wife that tried to make them quit playing, including me. It was fairly commonplace that upon returning from a tour, one of the guys would go home to an empty house — his wife and kids were now living with their pastor or something.
abc
June 19th, 2012
3:48 pm
One of the reasons I split with an old girlfriend was the Glock she carried around all the time. In the nightstand, in the glovebox… I’m like, there are kids around, lock up the gun. I won’t allow a gun in the house. Instead, I live where I don’t need one.
czBrat
June 19th, 2012
3:48 pm
bluz, i have a date at the range with my brothers next month. i cannot wait!! after my lesson i’m gonna have to go into baby sis mode to see if i can con one of them out of a glock. i refused to have a weapon in the house while my kids were kids, but i’m ready now!
Leggs
June 19th, 2012
3:49 pm
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/wesley-warren-jr-shies-surgery-fix-gigantic-100-lbs-scrotum-article-1.1098278
Now he can fit in with the 14″ guy yesterday. Holy crap!
Leggs
June 19th, 2012
3:51 pm
Yeah, czB, I too am ready.
Celisea
June 19th, 2012
3:54 pm
No guns here. Can’t say I haven’t thought about it. Especially after being burglarized twice.
SlimUno
June 19th, 2012
3:54 pm
abc – You live where you don’t need a gun…and exactly where is that because I figured we live in times where no neighborhood is exempt from crime. (Unless of course you’re living in a hidden underground bunker with a secret entrance
Leggs
June 19th, 2012
3:55 pm
You took the thoughts out of my head, SlimUno. Doesn’t seem like anyone is safe.
SlimUno
June 19th, 2012
3:56 pm
WOW
Celisea
June 19th, 2012
3:58 pm
Well, to what abc said, not sure if this is what he meant but I live under prayer. I have found that I’ve been kept safe until this point. God never said I would avoid the things that’s happening in the world today…had to learn that. What I pray for is to keep me and mine safe. For him to protect me while we’re asleep, to carry me to my point of destination and bring me back safely. I don’t pray to keep my material stuff. If it’s taken, he’ll resupply my needs.
Celisea
June 19th, 2012
3:59 pm
And I do that daily….every morning before leaving and every night before I lay me down to sleep.
disco
June 19th, 2012
4:01 pm
I never had a problem with guns in the house. my son “found” my gun when he was younger and called my mother and told on me. guess he thought I would get a whooping or something. (the great lengths he went through to find it are a whole ‘nother story). I understand the dangers of having them in the home but I also understand that the home is a dangerous place. folks fall down stairs, slip in showers, get burned in kitchens. accidents, lethal or not, are always waiting to happen. I will say that I felt a bit more comfortable with a gun in the house with their being only one child than I would have with two. something about more kids makes all kinds of things jump off
Celisea
June 19th, 2012
4:03 pm
And if I lose my life, Heaven ultimately is my goal. I don’t want to die at the hand of someone breaking in or rape or even the cross fire but if that’s the way I’m destined to go….again Heaven is my goal. That’s why you can’t sweat the small stuff. None of this stuff we talk about or worry about is going to cross over into eternity.
Bluzgirl
June 19th, 2012
4:05 pm
abc…actually…I may consider a musician again, but it would be one who has a full time job and only plays music on the side for fun! Since I’m pretty well known in the local music scene, it is possible that I will meet another musician and develop feelings. I just refuse to support another one while he attempts and fails at living the dream!
kimmie
June 19th, 2012
4:11 pm
There is a musical couple that live next door to me. Both have full-time jobs, husband plays sax/trumpet & wife sings. Even their young daughter plays piano and sings. They perform in their church and the husband is in a band that plays local gigs. The wife sings with the band from time to time. They are a beautiful, talented family.
kimmie
June 19th, 2012
4:20 pm
In week 3 of bootcamp gang! I think I bit off more than I can chew, but I’m determined to finish and not quit!!
Bluzgirl
June 19th, 2012
4:23 pm
Also…thanks for the info for Divas in Defense. Gonna check that out. Also, need to save the money for a gun. I’ve been to a shooting range once and it felt pretty good to shoot a gun. I’m sure they offer classes at the one close to me.
Bluzgirl
June 19th, 2012
4:28 pm
Slim…just checked out the Divas site and they have great prices on stun guns! I thought they were way more expensive!
DreamsMaterialize
June 19th, 2012
4:32 pm
Hurry hurry! Get your new Adidas shackle shoes, along with Brooks Brothers custom maede cashmere orange jumbpsuit, and the soon to be released Rolex diamond double wrist shackles. This new style is taking over. It’s called Penitentiary Chic!
SlimUno
June 19th, 2012
4:33 pm
Bluz – And if you go to a class, they usually offer those same items at a discounted price
SlimUno
June 19th, 2012
4:34 pm
Dreams – Your post reminds me of In Living Color where the Wayans Brothers had the Homeboy shopping network…..Mo money, mo money, mo money! lol
DreamsMaterialize
June 19th, 2012
4:36 pm
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